Joe Rogan Experience #1563 - Tony Hinchcliffe

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   (drumming music plays) Joe Rogan podcast.…

   1. NANarrator0:02

      (drumming music plays) Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience.

   2. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (rock music plays) Hello, Tony.

   3. THTony Hinchcliffe0:13

      Yeah. Salud, my friend.

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:15

      Oh.

   5. THTony Hinchcliffe0:17

      Good to see you on the right side of America.

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:19

      Feels good out here.

   7. THTony Hinchcliffe0:20

      Feels good, right?

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:21

      Whole different feel.

   9. THTony Hinchcliffe0:22

      Feels normal.

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:23

       Yeah.

   11. THTony Hinchcliffe0:23

       People aren't terrified.

   12. JRJoe Rogan0:25

       Correct.

   13. THTony Hinchcliffe0:25

       They got everybody scared as fuck in California.

   14. JRJoe Rogan0:28

       It's horrible, man. Everything's shut down. Everything feels bad.

   15. THTony Hinchcliffe0:31

       (sighs)

   16. JRJoe Rogan0:32

       It's sad.

   17. THTony Hinchcliffe0:33

       It is sad. It's-

   18. JRJoe Rogan0:34

       The more, the more businesses are completely closed, the sadder it is. It's seeing stuff that you know.

   19. THTony Hinchcliffe0:41

       Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan0:41

       And the memories that you have there.

   21. THTony Hinchcliffe0:43

       It's also ... I think it's harder to bounce back in big places. I think it's harder for big places to bounce back, 'cause you get like all these stores closed down. Like all the stores that got hit hard with the looting on Melrose-

   22. JRJoe Rogan0:56

       Yeah.

   23. THTony Hinchcliffe0:56

       ... like they're still closed, right?

   24. JRJoe Rogan0:58

       Most of them.

   25. THTony Hinchcliffe0:59

       Have any of them come back?

   26. JRJoe Rogan0:59

       Most of them. Yeah. Yeah.

   27. THTony Hinchcliffe1:01

       When you drive down M- ... The last time I was there, it's like boarded up, boarded up, boarded up, for lease, for lease, for lease. I'm like, this takes a long time to come back.

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:09

       It feels that way, for sure.

   29. THTony Hinchcliffe1:11

       Yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:11

       Some places are open, but i- it's not the same vibe.
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   Right. …

   1. THTony Hinchcliffe15:00

      that.

   2. JRJoe Rogan15:00

      Right.

   3. THTony Hinchcliffe15:01

      Other than getting a guy tired. So what Mayweather was doing was boxing with him, but preserving. Being safe, got clipped a couple of times, realized that Conor can punch. Conor could punch. But just drag him into deep water. Drag him in deep water. And that's what a guy like Mayweather will do. He's the most- he's the most intelligent in terms of his overall strategy to preserve his health yet to always win. I mean, he's the most intelligent. He's so good. You know, all the greats have suffered losses and setbacks and... Except him.

   4. JRJoe Rogan15:35

      Yeah.

   5. THTony Hinchcliffe15:35

      Except him.

   6. JRJoe Rogan15:36

      We don't even know what it's like.

   7. THTony Hinchcliffe15:37

      I mean-

   8. JRJoe Rogan15:37

      We don't even know how he would recover.

   9. THTony Hinchcliffe15:39

      We know he's had tough fights. He's had some-

   10. JRJoe Rogan15:41

       Yeah.

   11. THTony Hinchcliffe15:41

       ... a couple of tough fights. But, dude, he's so goddamn good. He's so protected. He knows where to be and where not to be. He's so composed. Like, look at that. Look at th- look at that movement. Look how he moves away from everything. So you're- you're punching at air and you're still threatening, but you're not really hitting him and he's making you throw punches. And occasionally you clip him with a shot as he's moving away and he rolls with a lot of shit. So it's real... You got to be a guy like- like Sugar Shane Mosley clipped him, really clipped him, like really hurt him. And he just grabbed ahold of him and held onto him and eventually started kicking Sugar Shane's ass.

   12. JRJoe Rogan16:14

       Mm-hmm.

   13. THTony Hinchcliffe16:14

       Just took time. He's, uh... If you're a young boxer and you want to know what it's like to be a 41-year-old and still be at the top of your game, you got to be like him or like Bernard Hopkins.

   14. JRJoe Rogan16:26

       Yeah.

   15. THTony Hinchcliffe16:26

       When Bernard Hopkins was at the top of his game, he was older. He was like in his 40s. Like-

   16. JRJoe Rogan16:31

       Yeah.

   17. THTony Hinchcliffe16:32

       He was, I think he was 36 when he beat Felix Trinidad and a lot of people were like, "Bernard's done. It's over. Felix Trinidad, Tito Trinidad is the future." And he lit Felix Trinidad on fire.

   18. JRJoe Rogan16:43

       Yeah.

   19. THTony Hinchcliffe16:43

       And then the same thing with Kelly Pavlik. He lit Kelly Pavlik on fire.

   20. JRJoe Rogan16:46

       I was just gonna say we have been not expecting that. We were expecting that to be Kelly Pavlik's big, like, return.

   21. THTony Hinchcliffe16:50

       Mm-hmm.

   22. JRJoe Rogan16:51

       And he got smashed.

   23. THTony Hinchcliffe16:53

       Bernard Hopkins is a national treasure.

   24. JRJoe Rogan16:55

       Yeah.

   25. THTony Hinchcliffe16:55

       He's... Because what he... Look- look at that. Conor pops him with that jab and that was uncomfortable, but it's like he's... Like, look how calm he is.

   26. NANarrator17:03

       (laughs) Yeah.

   27. THTony Hinchcliffe17:03

       Stop. Back that up. Back that up a second. Look how goddamn calm he is. Watch this jab come to Floyd's face. He doesn't even blink.

   28. NANarrator17:10

       (laughs)

   29. JRJoe Rogan17:10

       (laughs)

   30. THTony Hinchcliffe17:11

       It touches him in the nose, but he knows it's not gonna hurt him.
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   Yeah. …

   1. THTony Hinchcliffe30:00

      yards, right? If you go to the LA Zoo, you ever see h- how small that enclosure is?

   2. JRJoe Rogan30:04

      Yeah.

   3. THTony Hinchcliffe30:04

      I went to the LA Zoo once, really high, really high, like, on an edible.

   4. JRJoe Rogan30:09

      Yeah.

   5. THTony Hinchcliffe30:10

      And, uh, I wrote a, a piece on my website, uh, called, uh, The Animal Prison. And I was like ... 'Cause it made me feel ... I could, uh ... 'Cause, you know, when you're really fucking super baked, you're sensitive to everything.

   6. JRJoe Rogan30:22

      Yeah.

   7. THTony Hinchcliffe30:23

      But just ... I, I recognize how dep- ... Instead of thinking about myself and thinking about, you know, "Oh, I'm gonna go to the zoo and see the monkeys," I went there and I immediately felt sadness. I was like, "Oh no, these poor creatures."

   8. JRJoe Rogan30:38

      Yeah.

   9. THTony Hinchcliffe30:38

      Like, "They don't wanna be here." Like, "What are we doing?" Like, "We can't do this." I, I was thinking, like, "I gotta get out of here." (laughs)

   10. JRJoe Rogan30:44

       It's true. No, you're right. And it's very bizarre. Same thing with SeaWorld. Same thing with all those places.

   11. THTony Hinchcliffe30:49

       Oh, SeaWorld's worse.

   12. JRJoe Rogan30:51

       Yeah.

   13. THTony Hinchcliffe30:51

       'Cause they're as smart as us if not smarter.

   14. JRJoe Rogan30:53

       Yeah.

   15. THTony Hinchcliffe30:53

       We don't kn- we don't even really know how smart orcas are, right? Becau- or dolphins. 'Cause we, we put them in these weird categories, like, how much emails do they send? Um, do they make houses? No. They must be stupid. But they have a cerebral cortex that's 40% larger than ours. We don't know how smart they are. They, they also ... They communicate. They have a weird sophisticated language that we can't decipher. We can't decipher it. We don't know what their language is. They've been able to recognize specific accents. So they know ... There's like, you know, like there's a Southern accent and a Cleveland accent and there's a Chicago accent. Orcas have accents. Like, we can tell just by the sound, "Oh, this is a orca from Alaska," or, "This is a orca from Seattle."

   16. JRJoe Rogan31:37

       Yeah.

   17. THTony Hinchcliffe31:38

       It's crazy.

   18. JRJoe Rogan31:39

       It's fucking nuts, man.

   19. THTony Hinchcliffe31:40

       Meanwhile, we put them in a swimming pool. A fucking swimming pool.

   20. JRJoe Rogan31:44

       It's so sad how their fin droops-

   21. THTony Hinchcliffe31:46

       Oh.

   22. JRJoe Rogan31:46

       ... once they get depressed.

   23. THTony Hinchcliffe31:48

       It's not that they get depressed. They don't use it. It atrophies. It's like an arm that you don't pick anything up with. It just gets limp. You ever break your arm?

   24. JRJoe Rogan31:57

       Um, no.

   25. THTony Hinchcliffe31:59

       When you break your arm, they put it in a cast and one of the weird things is you get your arm out the cast and it's so little. It's like your arm atrophies.

   26. JRJoe Rogan32:05

       Mine's always like that (laughs) .

   27. THTony Hinchcliffe32:07

       (laughs)

   28. JRJoe Rogan32:07

       I always look like I had a broken arm for three years.

   29. THTony Hinchcliffe32:10

       (laughs) .

   30. JRJoe Rogan32:10

       I did break my leg once. That was fucked up, right?
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   I don't, like, I…

   1. THTony Hinchcliffe45:00

      we?

   2. NANarrator45:00

      I don't, like, I remember j- It was all like, flashing back.

   3. THTony Hinchcliffe45:03

      Dude, I have...

   4. NANarrator45:04

      There's a lot.

   5. JRJoe Rogan45:04

      (laughs)

   6. THTony Hinchcliffe45:04

      There's, uh, I was, uh, on my YouTube feed watching Filipino Pool the other day.

   7. JRJoe Rogan45:08

      (laughs)

   8. THTony Hinchcliffe45:08

      And an old interview came up with us with someone I didn't even remember was a guest. Like, if you had said, "Has this guy been a guest?" I'd be like, "No, never heard of him." Meanwhile, I sat down with the guy for three hours doing a podcast. (laughs)

   9. JRJoe Rogan45:13

      (laughs)

   10. THTony Hinchcliffe45:13

       Like, my memory's turned to dog shit. It's like there's too many, too many people in there. There's too many. It's like overwhelmed. I have no room. I have no, uh, hard drive space.

   11. JRJoe Rogan45:13

       Yeah, you gotta get rid of the old and new. It's like when you find an old joke. That ever happen to you?

   12. THTony Hinchcliffe45:13

       Oh, yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan45:13

       It's the best feeling.

   14. THTony Hinchcliffe45:13

       It's crazy. It's like, "I wrote this in 1998?"

   15. JRJoe Rogan45:13

       Yeah.

   16. THTony Hinchcliffe45:13

       Look at that.

   17. JRJoe Rogan45:13

       Like, I was-

   18. THTony Hinchcliffe45:13

       There's something in there.

   19. JRJoe Rogan45:13

       ... like I was telling you, uh, Ron White's doing a guest spot on this show I'm doing tonight here in Austin. And, uh, he's going back, looking over his stuff. And, uh, today he was. I was hanging with him and, uh, at one point he goes, "You know what? This shit's pretty goddamn funny." (laughs)

   20. NANarrator45:13

       (laughs)

   21. JRJoe Rogan45:13

       (laughs)

   22. THTony Hinchcliffe45:13

       That's Ron.

   23. JRJoe Rogan45:13

       Yeah.

   24. THTony Hinchcliffe45:13

       What were we talking about? I talked-

   25. NANarrator45:13

       Poltergeist.

   26. JRJoe Rogan45:13

       Poltergeist. Poltergeist. Oh, here's what. The movie, I think, is... What, w- what year is it, '83?

   27. NANarrator45:13

       '82.

   28. THTony Hinchcliffe45:13

       '82, okay. So the movie is in the early '80s. And, uh, apparently it was okay to be a piece of shit back then. It was like, super normal 'cause like, there's a scene where the 16-year-old daughter goes outside and there's just people doing construction in their backyard. And I mean, like, the window's right there, the parents are right there. And these construction workers are like, "Yay, look at you." And the guy's got like a, like a tube and he's looking at her through a tu- like a toi- like a paper towel tube. And he's looking at her like, "Yeah, I love you. I love it." She's like, "Fuck you." And the wife, the mom is laughing that her daughter almost got raped. It, it is the craziest scene. Like, look at this. Look at him. He's looking at her like, "Yeah, look at you." (laughing) "I love you."

   29. NANarrator45:13

       Sounds, sounds terrible.

   30. JRJoe Rogan45:13

       Yeah.
5. 1:00:00 – 1:06:55

   Yup. …

   1. THTony Hinchcliffe1:00:00

      And it's an amazing movie about bowling.

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:00:02

      Yup.

   3. THTony Hinchcliffe1:00:02

      Yeah. Bill, Bill Murray's... He's great as a bad guy. He was a bad guy in Groundhog Day-

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:00:07

      Yeah.

   5. THTony Hinchcliffe1:00:07

      ... who's a bad guy that became a good guy by the end of the movie.

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:00:10

      He's a great golfer.

   7. THTony Hinchcliffe1:00:11

      Look at... Bill Murray's here next to Donald Trump's hair. (laughs)

   8. JRJoe Rogan1:00:15

      (laughs)

   9. THTony Hinchcliffe1:00:15

      Who wore it better? (laughs)

   10. JRJoe Rogan1:00:16

       Mm-hmm. You should see Bill Murray out on the golf course.

   11. THTony Hinchcliffe1:00:20

       Ah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan1:00:20

       He's so funny, man. He does, he's really silly out there. Like, he, I saw a video of him, uh, uh, he called over the guy with a microphone. You know how you hear golf shots when they happen?

   13. THTony Hinchcliffe1:00:32

       Mm-hmm.

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:00:32

       The guy that holds like that thing? And he called him over. He said, "Come over here. Get closer. I want you to hear this fucking bomb I'm about to hit," or something like that. And the guy gets closer and he sets up again and he goes, "Closer." And he goes, "Closer," and the guy gets right up on it and he does this big back swing and he slams the hell out of this ball, man, and it sounds, it sounded like fucking heaven when he hit it, 'cause the guy's right on it. (laughs) He had to-

   15. THTony Hinchcliffe1:00:56

       Whack.

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:00:56

       ... be right next to it. He can play.

   17. THTony Hinchcliffe1:00:59

       Oh, I heard, I heard he's like a pro.

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:01:00

       Yeah.

   19. THTony Hinchcliffe1:01:00

       Yeah. Do you, do you see it anywhere? Tim Burton? Coraline? Does no- nothing, never-

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:01:05

       Uh, the, it came up that people were asking about like he didn't direct or produce it.

   21. THTony Hinchcliffe1:01:08

       Wow.

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:01:08

       'Cause it came out the same time or a similar time as the other thing-

   23. THTony Hinchcliffe1:01:11

       It looks like one of his movies. That's what's crazy. I assumed he had did it 'cause it's so, uh, Tim Burton like. You know? It's, but it's probably someone who's a fan. Does like similar weird, absurd, strange, creepy-

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:01:23

       I think he worked, I think that guy worked with Tim Burton. Here's an article that says he stepped out of the shadow to make Coraline.

   25. THTony Hinchcliffe1:01:28

       Oh, there it is.

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:01:29

       So maybe he's like a protege.

   27. THTony Hinchcliffe1:01:30

       Oh, okay.Interesting. D- Burton didn't produce or direct it. Interesting.

   28. NANarrator1:01:35

       Neil Diamond book.

   29. THTony Hinchcliffe1:01:36

       Just like Nightmare from... Oh, okay, cool. Well, he nailed it. Whoever that gentleman is. It's really good. It's just, uh, a strange movie about these people that move into this house and it's all animated. And this little girl finds this door that's been sealed off. Like, this little tiny, like, you know, two-foot door. She's like, "What the fuck is this?" But it's been covered in wallpaper and she finds a key for it and she opens it up and it, it has a tunnel and she goes through it and finds a version of her family that's way nicer than her family. But they have buttons for eyes. Like, the mom is, like, doting. Like, her parents are writers and all they're doing is like, "We have to work. Get out of here. I'm trying to work." And they're like, they're not into hanging out with the kid and so she's bored and she's... And it's rainy and shitty and then she goes through this weird tunnel and all the people over there are mirrors of her parents, but much nicer. All they're into is her. They care about is her and her wishes. And they give her the most delicious food and they're with her all the time, but they want her to have button eyes and they want her to stay there forever. And then eventually she realizes, like, "Something's really fucking wrong here."

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:02:44

       Mm-hmm.

Episode duration: 3:00:24