Joe Rogan Experience #1567 - Donnell Rawlings & Dave Chappelle

1. 0:02 – 2:15

   Leon Bridges, Joe’s neck gator, and quick-fire riffing to set the tone

   1. NANarrator0:02

      (drumming music plays) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

   2. JRJoe Rogan0:04

      The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (rock music plays) Donnell, what's going on, bro?

   3. DRDonnell Rawlings0:14

      Good to see you, my friend.

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:15

      << Take me to the river, I wanna go. I'll go. Take me to your river, I wanna go >> I don't even know who sings that.

   5. DRDonnell Rawlings0:27

      You don't know who sings that song?

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:28

      No. Uh-

   7. DRDonnell Rawlings0:30

      Leon Bridges. Leon Bridges? Yeah, he's like a folk country singer, black dude. I think he's, uh, Louisiana's, uh, where he's from. But about five years ago, he had a very popular song that was like a song that really charted well. It was called The River. That was that?

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:48

      That was that song. And then he-

   9. DRDonnell Rawlings0:50

      There he is.

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:50

       And then what he does is he-

   11. DRDonnell Rawlings0:51

       Are you aware, Jamie? You know that dude?

   12. NANarrator0:53

       I've seen him before. Yeah, I don't know that I know the song, though.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:54

       But this song is like... He's had other songs, but for some reason, this song resonated with a lot of people-

   14. DRDonnell Rawlings1:01

       Mm-hmm.

   15. JRJoe Rogan1:01

       ... in the country, man. It was like him reminiscing what, um, going to a place that made him feel good in the river.

   16. DRDonnell Rawlings1:07

       I hope when we go over to Spotify we can play it. I don't think-

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:10

       << I go. >> I could... << Take me to your river, I wanna go. I'll go >>

   18. DRDonnell Rawlings1:19

       (laughs)

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:20

       That's pretty much it. That's the one part everybody knows.

   20. DRDonnell Rawlings1:24

       It's acceptable now for people wear like neck scarfs.

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:28

       Are you being insulting?

   22. DRDonnell Rawlings1:29

       Neckerchiefs. No, not at all.

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:31

       It's... What are you saying though?

   24. DRDonnell Rawlings1:33

       It's normal. If you'd worn that on any other time, I'd be like, "What is on your neck?"

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:36

       And I would explain it to be a gator.

   26. DRDonnell Rawlings1:38

       Right.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:38

       A gator.

   28. DRDonnell Rawlings1:39

       I know what it is. I know what a gator is, I hunt.

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:40

       Yeah, this is what it is. It's my gator.

   30. DRDonnell Rawlings1:42

       Yeah, you wear 'em when you're sneaking up on animals.
2. 2:15 – 2:42

   “I got shot”: Donnell’s thumb injury story and the disbelief bit

   1. DRDonnell Rawlings2:15

      What happened to your thumb?

   2. JRJoe Rogan2:17

      I got shot.

   3. DRDonnell Rawlings2:19

      Who shot you?

   4. JRJoe Rogan2:23

      That's a question I haven't found an answer to.

   5. DRDonnell Rawlings2:25

      Really?

   6. JRJoe Rogan2:26

      It was... The shit happened so quick, Joe, I didn't really get, get a good look at the person, the person that shot me. Um, not too many people around to witness it, but I have the wound to show that I got shot.

   7. DRDonnell Rawlings2:40

      Wh- What was the situation?

3. 2:42 – 12:05

   Meet Maggie: emotional-support puppy and dog breed absurdity

   1. JRJoe Rogan2:42

      I was... My dog, you know, I got a little... I got a new dog.

   2. DRDonnell Rawlings2:44

      She's adorable.

   3. JRJoe Rogan2:46

      Listen, come here.

   4. DRDonnell Rawlings2:47

      That's as adorable as a dog gets, ladies and gentlemen. Look at that little cutie. (laughs)

   5. JRJoe Rogan2:51

      Yo, can you see-

   6. DRDonnell Rawlings2:52

      Can you see her on camera?

   7. NANarrator2:53

      Yeah, yeah.

   8. JRJoe Rogan2:53

      Yo, this is my emotional support dog.

   9. DRDonnell Rawlings2:55

      That's Maggie?

   10. JRJoe Rogan2:56

       Yeah, that's Maggie.

   11. DRDonnell Rawlings2:57

       Maggie. Come here, sweetie.

   12. JRJoe Rogan2:58

       Come here, Maggie.

   13. DRDonnell Rawlings2:59

       Come here, honey. She's ad... She doesn't know what coffee is. She's like, "Hmm, what I try that?"

   14. JRJoe Rogan3:02

       She don't know... She know what weed is, but she don't know what coffee is. But I was protecting her. Some people were trying... Joe, you want to hear the story about how I got shot or what?

   15. DRDonnell Rawlings3:10

       Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan3:11

       I was protecting her honor, right?

   17. DRDonnell Rawlings3:13

       (laughs)

   18. JRJoe Rogan3:13

       I was protecting her from a hail of bullets. It was a gang, it was a lot of people. I don't remember all of that, but I got shot in my motherfucking thumb.

   19. DRDonnell Rawlings3:24

       Where were you?

   20. JRJoe Rogan3:25

       In the streets.

   21. DRDonnell Rawlings3:26

       Oh, just regular?

   22. JRJoe Rogan3:28

       Yeah, I was in the streets. (laughs)

   23. DRDonnell Rawlings3:29

       (laughs)

   24. JRJoe Rogan3:30

       I was in the streets. No, not just the-

   25. DRDonnell Rawlings3:32

       Just the streets.

   26. JRJoe Rogan3:33

       I was just in the streets.

   27. DRDonnell Rawlings3:34

       No, no town?

   28. JRJoe Rogan3:35

       No, just the streets.

   29. DRDonnell Rawlings3:36

       Come here, Maggie.

   30. JRJoe Rogan3:36

       And that happens sometimes, Joe. You put yourself... You're hanging in the streets, you put yourself in some unforgiving situations, and that's what happened to me, and that's how I got my motherfucking thumb shot the fuck off. And that's the story I'm talking, that's the story that I'm sticking to.
4. 12:05 – 16:15

   From toy pit bulls to hog hunting: working dogs and invasive species

   1. DRDonnell Rawlings12:05

      Have you ever seen a, a toy Pit Bull, Jamie?... they're really tiny. We know real pit bulls, like the fighting pit bulls, they were like 30 pounds. They weren't big dogs. The ones that they bred for fighting, the smaller ones are the little, little demons.

   2. JRJoe Rogan12:19

      I don't even know if I can remember ever seeing a small pit bull.

   3. DRDonnell Rawlings12:22

      Yeah. Bryan Callen used to have a small pit bull. It was a tiny one and it was ferocious.

   4. JRJoe Rogan12:27

      That's where he gets his personality from. It's not him, it's the-

   5. DRDonnell Rawlings12:29

      No, he bought it at-

   6. JRJoe Rogan12:30

      ... it's the animals.

   7. DRDonnell Rawlings12:30

      ... we went to a guy who raised them for fighting.

   8. JRJoe Rogan12:34

      Oh, shit.

   9. DRDonnell Rawlings12:34

      Yeah. We were like, in our 20s.

   10. NANarrator12:36

       Those are all mostly puppies, but-

   11. DRDonnell Rawlings12:38

       Oh my God, look how tiny.

   12. JRJoe Rogan12:40

       Damn, that little motherfucker look tough as shit, the black one.

   13. DRDonnell Rawlings12:43

       (laughs) Look at his face.

   14. JRJoe Rogan12:43

       The Black Lives Matter one, son.

   15. DRDonnell Rawlings12:45

       Look at his face.

   16. JRJoe Rogan12:45

       (laughs)

   17. DRDonnell Rawlings12:46

       Oh my God, that's ridiculous. That dog's ridiculous.

   18. JRJoe Rogan12:49

       That dog's hardcore.

   19. DRDonnell Rawlings12:49

       See, that's the thing that they do. They, they take these dogs and they, they turn them into-

   20. JRJoe Rogan12:52

       But they break their legs and shit like that, right?

   21. DRDonnell Rawlings12:54

       Well, no, they just breed them. They, they do what's called, uh, like, they, they select, right? So like a dog with shorter legs, they'll breed with another dog with shorter legs and they'll try to select for certain traits.

   22. JRJoe Rogan13:08

       Right.

   23. DRDonnell Rawlings13:08

       Like I used to have a dog that was from Hawaii and they used him for hog hunting. That's what they use his family for. So he had long ears.

   24. JRJoe Rogan13:15

       It was a dog specific-

   25. DRDonnell Rawlings13:17

       He's, he's a pit bull.

   26. JRJoe Rogan13:17

       ... to Hawaii?

   27. DRDonnell Rawlings13:19

       Yes.

   28. JRJoe Rogan13:19

       Yeah?

   29. DRDonnell Rawlings13:19

       Yeah. They, they, they breed a lot of pit bulls in Hawaii for hog hunting.

   30. JRJoe Rogan13:22

       And what are their jobs? 'Cause most dogs have to do, they go get birds. What the fuck does it do?
5. 16:15 – 21:11

   Food talk turns cultural: turtle soup, frog legs, and steak temperature wars

   1. JRJoe Rogan16:15

      Yeah, but you can't tell somebody you're hunting turtles.

   2. DRDonnell Rawlings16:18

      You're not trying to do it for sport.

   3. JRJoe Rogan16:20

      That's... They slow as a motherfuck if you like... I fucking stalked this fucking, I followed this turtle for three days.

   4. DRDonnell Rawlings16:26

      (laughs) I think, um, they probably get them on the beach. But if you got them in the water, they'd be quick. Sea turtles, like when you try to catch them while they're swimming-

   5. JRJoe Rogan16:34

      When I was growing up, we'd catch a motherfucking, uh, turtle on the road and it was always one country motherfucker, like he us- he was a mechanic in the neighborhood and he had like oil up under his hand. He always helped people's baby mothers with fucking changing their brake pads and shit.

   6. DRDonnell Rawlings16:48

      (laughs)

   7. JRJoe Rogan16:48

      Just one of those grimy, dirty motherfuckers that eat any type of roadkill. And whenever we saw fucking a dar- dead turtle or something, we knew that nigga was gonna be yelling out "Turtle soup."

   8. DRDonnell Rawlings16:59

      Yeah, people like turtle soup.

   9. JRJoe Rogan17:01

      That's what he did. Yeah. I'm not a big fan of it, but-

   10. DRDonnell Rawlings17:03

       I've never had it.

   11. JRJoe Rogan17:04

       Yeah. It seems like it would probably be an alligator, meaty, meaty type of family.

   12. DRDonnell Rawlings17:08

       Alligator tastes good.

   13. JRJoe Rogan17:10

       It is.

   14. DRDonnell Rawlings17:10

       Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan17:10

       Everything tastes good when it tastes like chicken. That's the reference for anything it tastes like chicken.

   16. DRDonnell Rawlings17:15

       Yeah. I had frog legs recently. They were good.

   17. JRJoe Rogan17:19

       You... It's... I've had frog legs before, but trying to convince a Black person to eat frog where, legs is a tough sell. That's-

   18. DRDonnell Rawlings17:27

       To order?

   19. JRJoe Rogan17:28

       Yeah, to a, to for bl-

   20. DRDonnell Rawlings17:29

       (laughs)

   21. JRJoe Rogan17:29

       To get a Black person (sniffs) to order frog legs off of a menu is like getting them to say, "I want my steak w, uh, rare." It's always gotta be well done.

   22. DRDonnell Rawlings17:41

       You eat well done?

   23. JRJoe Rogan17:43

       No, that's what I'm saying. I don't.

   24. DRDonnell Rawlings17:44

       Oh, but how do you eat your steak?

   25. JRJoe Rogan17:46

       Medium.

   26. DRDonnell Rawlings17:47

       Medium?

   27. JRJoe Rogan17:48

       Yep.

   28. DRDonnell Rawlings17:49

       Not medium rare?

   29. JRJoe Rogan17:51

       I don't... There's a lot of Black people that watch this show.

   30. DRDonnell Rawlings17:57

       (laughs)
6. 21:11 – 1:04:11

   Elk obsession and barbecue science: cooking, smoking, and Texas spots

   1. JRJoe Rogan21:11

      What is it with white people with blood, though?

   2. DRDonnell Rawlings21:13

      I don't know.

   3. JRJoe Rogan21:14

      I mean, like, like, I know this is bizarre, but white people get a kick out of, like, the rarest they can order their steak. Like, the blood part of it, like-

   4. DRDonnell Rawlings21:23

      No.

   5. JRJoe Rogan21:23

      ... get... What?

   6. DRDonnell Rawlings21:24

      Nobody's... Rare is weird. When somebody orders rare or you know what blue is?

   7. JRJoe Rogan21:27

      But you be, you proud of the blood, Joe.

   8. DRDonnell Rawlings21:30

      No.

   9. JRJoe Rogan21:30

      Every time you post a elk picture, it's like you-

   10. DRDonnell Rawlings21:34

       (laughs)

   11. JRJoe Rogan21:34

       ... you can't just show the meat. You want motherfuckers to see the knife-

   12. DRDonnell Rawlings21:38

       Mm-mm.

   13. JRJoe Rogan21:38

       ... and you do your picture, Joe. And dis- it's like you waited for the blood to sweat at a certain temperature. You know when it looks the bloodiest and that's the shot you always get.

   14. DRDonnell Rawlings21:47

       But that's not what I'm trying to do. What I'm trying to do is show that it's cooked perfectly, that it's medium rare with respect for the meat. When I do it, I use a thermometer. I mean, I do it nice and slow.

   15. JRJoe Rogan21:57

       Oh my God, man.

   16. DRDonnell Rawlings21:57

       And I know you know how to cook. Don't get crazy.

   17. JRJoe Rogan21:59

       Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.

   18. DRDonnell Rawlings22:00

       Don't get crazy.

   19. JRJoe Rogan22:01

       Wait a minute, Joe.

   20. DRDonnell Rawlings22:01

       Just trying to explain something.

   21. JRJoe Rogan22:02

       Wait a minute, Joe.

   22. DRDonnell Rawlings22:03

       What?

   23. JRJoe Rogan22:04

       You're a man of wilderness.

   24. DRDonnell Rawlings22:06

       Yes.

   25. JRJoe Rogan22:06

       Right? And all that, you're well respected.

   26. DRDonnell Rawlings22:08

       Right.

   27. JRJoe Rogan22:09

       Right?

   28. DRDonnell Rawlings22:09

       Look at that, though.

   29. JRJoe Rogan22:09

       Yeah, look at that, Joe. Look at that.

   30. DRDonnell Rawlings22:11

       That shit's perfect. It's perfect.
7. 29:52 – 45:01

   Masks as conflict fuel: grocery-store story, Apple Pay, and rule-enforcement psychology

   1. DRDonnell Rawlings29:52

      I don't think you should tell some old lady that she has to put a mask on. I ran into an old lady at the grocery store, she didn't have a mask on.

   2. JRJoe Rogan29:57

      Right.

   3. DRDonnell Rawlings29:58

      I was like, "All right." What, what are you gonna do? She's old, man. I mean, this lady, she probably feels terrible breathing through the mask.

   4. JRJoe Rogan30:05

      Anyway.

   5. DRDonnell Rawlings30:05

      She probably feels like she doesn't have much time.

   6. JRJoe Rogan30:06

      She about to have a asthma attack.

   7. DRDonnell Rawlings30:07

      She had one on, but she was doing this shit. The chin check.

   8. JRJoe Rogan30:10

      I got into an argument o- yo.

   9. DRDonnell Rawlings30:12

      That chin check that people were doing?

   10. JRJoe Rogan30:14

       They get yelled, you get, they get, I get yelled at. I went to a grocery store. I'm getting a couple of items, and I had my motherfucking mask. And yo, when I tell you...... the tip of my nose was showing. The tip, right here.

   11. DRDonnell Rawlings30:24

       And people got mad?

   12. JRJoe Rogan30:25

       And this lady's behind plexiglass. She had sanitizer. She was squirting the register down every minute. She had a mask, everything. And my shit went right to the tip of my nose. She was like, "Sir, sir, sir, sir. You gotta put your mask on. You gotta put your mask on." I'm like, "Oh, I'm sorry. Okay." Now I gotta pay, I do Apple Pay. But to get into my phone-

   13. DRDonnell Rawlings30:43

       You gotta open up the phone.

   14. JRJoe Rogan30:44

       ... with my face.

   15. DRDonnell Rawlings30:45

       Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan30:45

       So I put it down. "Sir, I'm sorry!" I'm like, "I'm trying to pay. I gotta log in with my face." She was like, "Well, you can't do that in here." Right?

   17. DRDonnell Rawlings30:54

       You can't use Apple Pay?

   18. JRJoe Rogan30:55

       I can't show my face to open my phone up to get-

   19. DRDonnell Rawlings30:57

       You gotta use Samsung Pay. They let you use your fingerprint. Time to switch to Android.

   20. JRJoe Rogan31:01

       I don't have an Android.

   21. DRDonnell Rawlings31:03

       (laughs)

   22. JRJoe Rogan31:03

       I don't have a... That's very evil for you to ent-

   23. DRDonnell Rawlings31:07

       I have an Android.

   24. JRJoe Rogan31:07

       ... to another... I know, but I wasn't talking about your fucking phone, Joe.

   25. DRDonnell Rawlings31:10

       Why is it evil?

   26. JRJoe Rogan31:12

       Because it was the wrong time.

   27. DRDonnell Rawlings31:16

       (laughs)

   28. JRJoe Rogan31:17

       It was the fucking wrong time.

   29. DRDonnell Rawlings31:18

       (laughs)

   30. JRJoe Rogan31:20

       And the thing I was making... So I had to-
8. 45:01 – 56:22

   Media distrust and politics as performance: CNN personalities and “fake news” logic

   1. JRJoe Rogan45:01

      I didn't know you was nice. What I'm saying is, to go back to your point, Joe, is everybody's talking about the end of corona. Like, Don Lemon, man. Don Lemon, man. Don Lemon. Son, four years, son. For four years straight, he complained. He was mad at Donald Trump for four fucking years.

   2. DRDonnell Rawlings45:21

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan45:22

      Four years. And f- I was like, "Man, if Donald Trump wins this election, Don Lemon is gonna jump off the CNN building."

   4. DRDonnell Rawlings45:29

      Do you remember all their faces when he won last time? When he won in 2016, they were all so depressed.

   5. JRJoe Rogan45:35

      Yeah.

   6. DRDonnell Rawlings45:35

      Jake Tapper and all those people on TV, just like, "Motherfucker, I can't believe this."

   7. JRJoe Rogan45:39

      Yeah. But the, here's the thing, Joe. I'm like... (sighs)

   8. DRDonnell Rawlings45:43

      I don't think you're supposed to do that if you're doing the news.

   9. JRJoe Rogan45:46

      Joe.

   10. DRDonnell Rawlings45:46

       If you're doing commentary, you can do that.

   11. JRJoe Rogan45:47

       Joe.

   12. DRDonnell Rawlings45:48

       I think if you're doing the news, you're supposed to say the news.

   13. JRJoe Rogan45:50

       Joe.

   14. DRDonnell Rawlings45:50

       Let us figure it out.

   15. JRJoe Rogan45:51

       Joe.

   16. DRDonnell Rawlings45:52

       Donnell.

   17. JRJoe Rogan45:52

       Joe. That's why I do subscribe to the notion that fake news. Like, to be honest, it's all fake. It's... All of them are fake.

   18. DRDonnell Rawlings46:02

       It's a lot of fake.

   19. JRJoe Rogan46:03

       It's... All fake. And this what I did, what I keep on telling people is like, how... I know you're upset, but when you're, like, you, you're... (sighs) It's all personal. Like, everything hits you to the heart. Like-

   20. DRDonnell Rawlings46:17

       Well, that's where it gets weird. Those two guys, Chris Cuomo and Don Lemon, both of them, they do this editorializing and this like, the, the, it's-

   21. JRJoe Rogan46:26

       Yeah.

   22. DRDonnell Rawlings46:26

       It's, it's almost like they're doing a podcast.

   23. JRJoe Rogan46:27

       And their opinion is all in it.

   24. DRDonnell Rawlings46:29

       And their opinion's in it, but it's also scripted.

   25. JRJoe Rogan46:30

       It's on the other side too. It's-

   26. DRDonnell Rawlings46:32

       But it's scripted.

   27. JRJoe Rogan46:33

       Yeah.

   28. DRDonnell Rawlings46:33

       And they're doing it on a news channel. There's a lot going on there.

   29. JRJoe Rogan46:37

       But that's why if you don't... Here's another thing about the media. If you didn't understand, whatever party you agree with, whatever, that... If you don't understand how easy it is to manipulate the media, Joe, it is so, so simple-

   30. DRDonnell Rawlings46:53

       To manipulate the media?
9. 56:22 – 1:29:59

   Election aftermath: turnout records, fraud claims, and why institutions lose trust

   1. JRJoe Rogan56:22

      I'm a tell you something, the difference. I'm a tell you something, the difference, whatever numbers you say, the loser of this election still won, breaking the record.

   2. DRDonnell Rawlings56:31

      I know. Isn't that crazy?

   3. JRJoe Rogan56:32

      S- second place still was f- second place would have been first place-

   4. DRDonnell Rawlings56:35

      Any other time in history.

   5. JRJoe Rogan56:37

      ... a- a- any other time-

   6. DRDonnell Rawlings56:37

      Yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan56:37

      ... in history, it would have shitted on everything.

   8. DRDonnell Rawlings56:38

      That's nuts. That shows-

   9. JRJoe Rogan56:40

      You know?

   10. DRDonnell Rawlings56:40

       ... everybody realized it's important to find... When you, when you realize that a guy like Donald Trump can become president, you realize, oh my God, it's actually important to vote. (laughs)

   11. JRJoe Rogan56:47

       Yo, bruh, th- th- you know, it has to... Until you see those numbers, yo, it was like... It was crazy. It was like, it's certain places separated by 5,000 votes.

   12. DRDonnell Rawlings57:00

       I know.

   13. JRJoe Rogan57:00

       10,000 votes.

   14. DRDonnell Rawlings57:01

       Yeah. It was tight.

   15. JRJoe Rogan57:03

       And you could say, you could make a, here's the thing, you could make an argument it coulda went either way. Here's the situation. Man, Donald Trump, let it be known that he didn't give a fuck about anybody but his base.

   16. DRDonnell Rawlings57:23

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan57:23

       That's it.

   18. DRDonnell Rawlings57:23

       Pretty much.

   19. JRJoe Rogan57:24

       That's it. And, and I'm not saying if you're, if it's a numbers game, I understand that. Like, there's a certain amount of people that help you, will help you get elected. There's a certain amount of people, that's why you have strategists and shit. They'll be like, "If we do this, we get these robo calls here," and everything. You know, there's a science to that. It's certain people that can help you get there. You know?

   20. DRDonnell Rawlings57:43

       Well, if he, the-

   21. JRJoe Rogan57:46

       But he never made no... But, like-

   22. DRDonnell Rawlings57:47

       If he softened his approach up, I think the base would not have appreciated it.

   23. JRJoe Rogan57:52

       That's the numbers-

   24. DRDonnell Rawlings57:53

       They, it's like love him or hate him.

   25. JRJoe Rogan57:54

       Right.

   26. DRDonnell Rawlings57:54

       It's very polarizing.

   27. JRJoe Rogan57:55

       And for, to hate him works for-

   28. DRDonnell Rawlings57:57

       Right.

   29. JRJoe Rogan57:57

       ... for a situation.

   30. DRDonnell Rawlings57:58

       Whereas Biden, I don't think people love Biden.

Episode duration: 3:24:32