Joe Rogan Experience #1567 - Donnell Rawlings & Dave Chappelle

1. 0:02 – 2:15

   Cold open: music, Leon Bridges ‘River,’ and gator/neck-scarf jokes

   1. NANarrator0:02

      (drumming music plays) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

   2. JRJoe Rogan0:04

      The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (rock music plays) Donnell, what's going on, bro?

   3. DRDonnell Rawlings0:14

      Good to see you, my friend.

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:15

      << Take me to the river, I wanna go. I'll go. Take me to your river, I wanna go >> I don't even know who sings that.

   5. DRDonnell Rawlings0:27

      You don't know who sings that song?

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:28

      No. Uh-

   7. DRDonnell Rawlings0:30

      Leon Bridges. Leon Bridges? Yeah, he's like a folk country singer, black dude. I think he's, uh, Louisiana's, uh, where he's from. But about five years ago, he had a very popular song that was like a song that really charted well. It was called The River. That was that?

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:48

      That was that song. And then he-

   9. DRDonnell Rawlings0:50

      There he is.

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:50

       And then what he does is he-

   11. DRDonnell Rawlings0:51

       Are you aware, Jamie? You know that dude?

   12. NANarrator0:53

       I've seen him before. Yeah, I don't know that I know the song, though.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:54

       But this song is like... He's had other songs, but for some reason, this song resonated with a lot of people-

   14. DRDonnell Rawlings1:01

       Mm-hmm.

   15. JRJoe Rogan1:01

       ... in the country, man. It was like him reminiscing what, um, going to a place that made him feel good in the river.

   16. DRDonnell Rawlings1:07

       I hope when we go over to Spotify we can play it. I don't think-

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:10

       << I go. >> I could... << Take me to your river, I wanna go. I'll go >>

   18. DRDonnell Rawlings1:19

       (laughs)

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:20

       That's pretty much it. That's the one part everybody knows.

   20. DRDonnell Rawlings1:24

       It's acceptable now for people wear like neck scarfs.

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:28

       Are you being insulting?

   22. DRDonnell Rawlings1:29

       Neckerchiefs. No, not at all.

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:31

       It's... What are you saying though?

   24. DRDonnell Rawlings1:33

       It's normal. If you'd worn that on any other time, I'd be like, "What is on your neck?"

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:36

       And I would explain it to be a gator.

   26. DRDonnell Rawlings1:38

       Right.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:38

       A gator.

   28. DRDonnell Rawlings1:39

       I know what it is. I know what a gator is, I hunt.

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:40

       Yeah, this is what it is. It's my gator.

   30. DRDonnell Rawlings1:42

       Yeah, you wear 'em when you're sneaking up on animals.
2. 2:15 – 6:05

   Donnell’s “I got shot” thumb story and the running bit about believing him

   1. DRDonnell Rawlings2:15

      What happened to your thumb?

   2. JRJoe Rogan2:17

      I got shot.

   3. DRDonnell Rawlings2:19

      Who shot you?

   4. JRJoe Rogan2:23

      That's a question I haven't found an answer to.

   5. DRDonnell Rawlings2:25

      Really?

   6. JRJoe Rogan2:26

      It was... The shit happened so quick, Joe, I didn't really get, get a good look at the person, the person that shot me. Um, not too many people around to witness it, but I have the wound to show that I got shot.

   7. DRDonnell Rawlings2:40

      Wh- What was the situation?

   8. JRJoe Rogan2:42

      I was... My dog, you know, I got a little... I got a new dog.

   9. DRDonnell Rawlings2:44

      She's adorable.

   10. JRJoe Rogan2:46

       Listen, come here.

   11. DRDonnell Rawlings2:47

       That's as adorable as a dog gets, ladies and gentlemen. Look at that little cutie. (laughs)

   12. JRJoe Rogan2:51

       Yo, can you see-

   13. DRDonnell Rawlings2:52

       Can you see her on camera?

   14. NANarrator2:53

       Yeah, yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan2:53

       Yo, this is my emotional support dog.

   16. DRDonnell Rawlings2:55

       That's Maggie?

   17. JRJoe Rogan2:56

       Yeah, that's Maggie.

   18. DRDonnell Rawlings2:57

       Maggie. Come here, sweetie.

   19. JRJoe Rogan2:58

       Come here, Maggie.

   20. DRDonnell Rawlings2:59

       Come here, honey. She's ad... She doesn't know what coffee is. She's like, "Hmm, what I try that?"

   21. JRJoe Rogan3:02

       She don't know... She know what weed is, but she don't know what coffee is. But I was protecting her. Some people were trying... Joe, you want to hear the story about how I got shot or what?

   22. DRDonnell Rawlings3:10

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan3:11

       I was protecting her honor, right?

   24. DRDonnell Rawlings3:13

       (laughs)

   25. JRJoe Rogan3:13

       I was protecting her from a hail of bullets. It was a gang, it was a lot of people. I don't remember all of that, but I got shot in my motherfucking thumb.

   26. DRDonnell Rawlings3:24

       Where were you?

   27. JRJoe Rogan3:25

       In the streets.

   28. DRDonnell Rawlings3:26

       Oh, just regular?

   29. JRJoe Rogan3:28

       Yeah, I was in the streets. (laughs)

   30. DRDonnell Rawlings3:29

       (laughs)
3. 6:05 – 7:36

   Gratitude after injury → COVID perspective shift

   1. JRJoe Rogan6:05

      But I'm telling you, doing this, after we surviving this gunshot shit, just buttoning my pants become a task that I took advantage, I took, took for granted.

   2. DRDonnell Rawlings6:14

      Right.

   3. JRJoe Rogan6:15

      The point I'm making is that you're lucky to have all of your limbs, all of your shit on your body.

   4. DRDonnell Rawlings6:21

      Yep. That's true.

   5. JRJoe Rogan6:21

      And you don't appreciate it till one of the motherfucking gone.

   6. DRDonnell Rawlings6:24

      Well, I think that's the case with everything, right?

   7. JRJoe Rogan6:26

      Mm-hmm.

   8. DRDonnell Rawlings6:26

      Like, we didn't appreciate how good we had it before the lockdown. Before COVID came around, nobody appreciated how good we really had it.

   9. JRJoe Rogan6:33

      We was living in the moment.

   10. DRDonnell Rawlings6:34

       It, we were all so spoiled. We were spoiled by how good everything was.

   11. JRJoe Rogan6:38

       But we didn't think it was spoiled because that was what was going on-

   12. DRDonnell Rawlings6:42

       Right.

   13. JRJoe Rogan6:42

       ... until shit s- shifted, and then same thing, like, you lose your thumb. You're like, "Oh, shit, you know, I really do appreciate, uh, doing those three spots that night."

   14. DRDonnell Rawlings6:52

       Mm-hmm.

   15. JRJoe Rogan6:52

       You know what I mean? "I appreciated the fact that I could just walk with my family anywhere and I wouldn't be judged, I wouldn't be discriminated against or whatever." It'd just be like, "There goes Joe and his family," not just like, "Do you have a mask or not?"

   16. DRDonnell Rawlings7:04

       Right.

   17. JRJoe Rogan7:04

       You know?

   18. DRDonnell Rawlings7:06

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan7:06

       But I do believe that it took a pandemic for people to really realize what the most important things in life are.

   20. DRDonnell Rawlings7:15

       I think so, for sure. I think at the beginning people were nicer, because they were scared and they were like, it was almost like post-9/11 feeling.

   21. JRJoe Rogan7:22

       Right.

   22. DRDonnell Rawlings7:22

       Like, we're all in this together.

   23. JRJoe Rogan7:23

       Right.

   24. DRDonnell Rawlings7:24

       That didn't last very long.

   25. JRJoe Rogan7:25

       It wa- it was unrealistic to think that everybody's gonna be that way. People are gonna get frustrated.

   26. DRDonnell Rawlings7:29

       Once also resources started getting low and people started realizing they're not gonna be able to work for a long fucking time.

   27. JRJoe Rogan7:35

       Correct.

4. 7:36 – 11:21

   Newsom restaurant scandal and the idea of “bubble” living via testing

   1. DRDonnell Rawlings7:36

      Did you see that the governor got busted? Did you see the photos?

   2. JRJoe Rogan7:38

      Which governor?

   3. DRDonnell Rawlings7:39

      Governor of California.

   4. JRJoe Rogan7:40

      He got busted for what?

   5. DRDonnell Rawlings7:41

      Got busted going to a restaurant with 12 people, no social distancing, no masks. All the shit that he's been preaching for, he didn't do. They were saying that he was in, outdoors, like his-

   6. JRJoe Rogan7:50

      Right.

   7. DRDonnell Rawlings7:50

      ... his people said it was outdoors, but now they have photos of it, 100% indoors.

   8. JRJoe Rogan7:54

      Right.

   9. DRDonnell Rawlings7:54

      They're all indoors.

   10. JRJoe Rogan7:55

       But the thing is-

   11. DRDonnell Rawlings7:55

       Talking, sitting.

   12. JRJoe Rogan7:56

       ... the, the unrealistic part about that, you know people got to push their platform, this mad shit is, has been crazy. But me, I know it shouldn't be like this, and I know it's like, but what does it-

   13. DRDonnell Rawlings8:05

       Look at how she curls up and you-

   14. JRJoe Rogan8:06

       But what does it represent?

   15. DRDonnell Rawlings8:08

       ... she's so adorable.

   16. JRJoe Rogan8:08

       When I see motherfuckers like that in a situation like that, no mask, not social distancing, I just assume that they all been tested and they all have been in a bubble situation.

   17. DRDonnell Rawlings8:19

       Well, that's because-

   18. JRJoe Rogan8:20

       That's what I think.

   19. DRDonnell Rawlings8:20

       ... you've been in a bunch of bubble situations, like when-

   20. JRJoe Rogan8:22

       Right.

   21. DRDonnell Rawlings8:22

       ... when Dave did the shows down in Yellow Springs, you guys all got tested.

   22. JRJoe Rogan8:25

       Like you, you bubbled me first.

   23. DRDonnell Rawlings8:26

       I bubble you here, yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan8:27

       You're the first person, you're the first person. You didn't rape my nose, you rape, raped my finger.

   25. DRDonnell Rawlings8:32

       (scoffs) I didn't do it.

   26. JRJoe Rogan8:33

       Yes, you did.

   27. DRDonnell Rawlings8:33

       You hired a nurse.

   28. JRJoe Rogan8:34

       You made somebody do it.

   29. DRDonnell Rawlings8:35

       (laughs)

   30. JRJoe Rogan8:37

       You can call it whatever the fuck you wanna do, (laughs) but she worked for you.
5. 11:21 – 13:08

   Maggie the puppy: emotional support dog talk and toy pit bull curiosity

   1. DRDonnell Rawlings11:21

      (clears throat) She's the most adorable little dog I've ever seen.

   2. JRJoe Rogan11:24

      Yeah.

   3. DRDonnell Rawlings11:24

      I've never seen a little dog as a puppy.

   4. JRJoe Rogan11:26

      Maggie River, she's five months old. She knows her biological dad and I'm her new dad.

   5. DRDonnell Rawlings11:30

      (laughs)

   6. JRJoe Rogan11:32

      (laughs) It was important for me, for her to know her biological dad 'cause I didn't want her to come from a place with, like, mental issues and shit, but-

   7. DRDonnell Rawlings11:39

      I understand.

   8. JRJoe Rogan11:39

      ... she's in tune with her mother, she knows her two, her brothers and sister, they have playdates.

   9. DRDonnell Rawlings11:43

      She's a little cutie.

   10. JRJoe Rogan11:43

       But she knows she's my, my little bitch right now.

   11. DRDonnell Rawlings11:45

       What kind of dog is she?

   12. JRJoe Rogan11:46

       A Chihuahua Pit Bull, uh-

   13. DRDonnell Rawlings11:49

       No. She's part Pit Bull?

   14. JRJoe Rogan11:51

       That dog don't look like it's part Pit... (laughs)

   15. DRDonnell Rawlings11:54

       (laughs) What kind of Pit Bull fucked a Chihuahua?

   16. JRJoe Rogan11:56

       A toy Pit Bull.

   17. DRDonnell Rawlings11:57

       Oh, really?

   18. JRJoe Rogan11:58

       Yeah, she's toy.

   19. DRDonnell Rawlings11:58

       Oh, one of the little ones.

   20. JRJoe Rogan11:59

       She's toy Chihuahua, a toy, toys-

   21. DRDonnell Rawlings12:01

       'Cause toy Pit Bulls are cute little dogs.

   22. JRJoe Rogan12:02

       Yeah, she's ferocious. Don't let that fucking sad eyes fool you.

   23. DRDonnell Rawlings12:05

       Have you ever seen a, a toy Pit Bull, Jamie?... they're really tiny. We know real pit bulls, like the fighting pit bulls, they were like 30 pounds. They weren't big dogs. The ones that they bred for fighting, the smaller ones are the little, little demons.

   24. JRJoe Rogan12:19

       I don't even know if I can remember ever seeing a small pit bull.

   25. DRDonnell Rawlings12:22

       Yeah. Bryan Callen used to have a small pit bull. It was a tiny one and it was ferocious.

   26. JRJoe Rogan12:27

       That's where he gets his personality from. It's not him, it's the-

   27. DRDonnell Rawlings12:29

       No, he bought it at-

   28. JRJoe Rogan12:30

       ... it's the animals.

   29. DRDonnell Rawlings12:30

       ... we went to a guy who raised them for fighting.

   30. JRJoe Rogan12:34

       Oh, shit.
6. 13:08 – 16:34

   Hog-hunting dogs, invasive species, and how humans reshape ecosystems

   1. DRDonnell Rawlings13:08

      Like I used to have a dog that was from Hawaii and they used him for hog hunting. That's what they use his family for. So he had long ears.

   2. JRJoe Rogan13:15

      It was a dog specific-

   3. DRDonnell Rawlings13:17

      He's, he's a pit bull.

   4. JRJoe Rogan13:17

      ... to Hawaii?

   5. DRDonnell Rawlings13:19

      Yes.

   6. JRJoe Rogan13:19

      Yeah?

   7. DRDonnell Rawlings13:19

      Yeah. They, they, they breed a lot of pit bulls in Hawaii for hog hunting.

   8. JRJoe Rogan13:22

      And what are their jobs? 'Cause most dogs have to do, they go get birds. What the fuck does it do?

   9. DRDonnell Rawlings13:25

      Hog hunting.

   10. JRJoe Rogan13:26

       Okay.

   11. DRDonnell Rawlings13:27

       See, what they do is, in the real thick brush you can't really get to the hogs. Like it's hard to shoot them even with a gun. Like you're shooting through hundreds of yards of brush.

   12. JRJoe Rogan13:36

       Right.

   13. DRDonnell Rawlings13:36

       But the dogs can go in there and get them, and they'll hold them. They'll hold the pig. And so there's a style of pig hunting-

   14. JRJoe Rogan13:41

       That makes the hunting easy though, right?

   15. DRDonnell Rawlings13:44

       It does, except for the dog. It's not like the same kinda hunting because you're-

   16. JRJoe Rogan13:49

       Right.

   17. DRDonnell Rawlings13:49

       ... relying 100% on the dogs. Usually there's two groups of dogs, depending on what animal you're d- Like if they, they hunt mountain lions, they use, they'll use a certain kind of dog that'll bay the dog.

   18. JRJoe Rogan13:58

       Right.

   19. DRDonnell Rawlings13:59

       It'll bay the mountain lion and... But if they hunt pigs, a lot of times they'll use an animal that lets you know where the pig is, and then they release other animals that hold the pig. So those are the, those are the pit bulls.

   20. JRJoe Rogan14:09

       And then you shoot them?

   21. DRDonnell Rawlings14:11

       Well, they usually stab them.

   22. JRJoe Rogan14:12

       Hand, like up?

   23. DRDonnell Rawlings14:13

       Mm-hmm. Yeah, it's kinda fucked, because-

   24. JRJoe Rogan14:16

       Oh, so that experience is all about the dog?

   25. DRDonnell Rawlings14:19

       It's the dog is the one who did it and you just finish the job.

   26. JRJoe Rogan14:22

       Damn.

   27. DRDonnell Rawlings14:23

       It's crazy too. There's (coughs) , excuse me, there's, there's videos of it, of the way they do it and it's like woof. And I've been asked to go on one of those hunts. I'm like, "I am not interested in doing that." Like where-

   28. JRJoe Rogan14:33

       What do they do? What, what happens when the dog gets old? Do they like-

   29. DRDonnell Rawlings14:35

       They get new dogs. But this is a, this is a thing that people are doing for two reasons. One, for food, right? 'Cause this is the best way that they can get food. Like you can trap this animal and then th- that's, that's how you're gonna get the animal. If you just rely on just hunting with like a rifle or a bow and arrow in real thick shit with wild pigs, you're probably gonna go hungry.

   30. JRJoe Rogan14:56

       Right.
7. 16:34 – 21:11

   Food culture riffs: turtle soup, frog legs, and steak temperature stereotypes

   1. JRJoe Rogan16:34

      When I was growing up, we'd catch a motherfucking, uh, turtle on the road and it was always one country motherfucker, like he us- he was a mechanic in the neighborhood and he had like oil up under his hand. He always helped people's baby mothers with fucking changing their brake pads and shit.

   2. DRDonnell Rawlings16:48

      (laughs)

   3. JRJoe Rogan16:48

      Just one of those grimy, dirty motherfuckers that eat any type of roadkill. And whenever we saw fucking a dar- dead turtle or something, we knew that nigga was gonna be yelling out "Turtle soup."

   4. DRDonnell Rawlings16:59

      Yeah, people like turtle soup.

   5. JRJoe Rogan17:01

      That's what he did. Yeah. I'm not a big fan of it, but-

   6. DRDonnell Rawlings17:03

      I've never had it.

   7. JRJoe Rogan17:04

      Yeah. It seems like it would probably be an alligator, meaty, meaty type of family.

   8. DRDonnell Rawlings17:08

      Alligator tastes good.

   9. JRJoe Rogan17:10

      It is.

   10. DRDonnell Rawlings17:10

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan17:10

       Everything tastes good when it tastes like chicken. That's the reference for anything it tastes like chicken.

   12. DRDonnell Rawlings17:15

       Yeah. I had frog legs recently. They were good.

   13. JRJoe Rogan17:19

       You... It's... I've had frog legs before, but trying to convince a Black person to eat frog where, legs is a tough sell. That's-

   14. DRDonnell Rawlings17:27

       To order?

   15. JRJoe Rogan17:28

       Yeah, to a, to for bl-

   16. DRDonnell Rawlings17:29

       (laughs)

   17. JRJoe Rogan17:29

       To get a Black person (sniffs) to order frog legs off of a menu is like getting them to say, "I want my steak w, uh, rare." It's always gotta be well done.

   18. DRDonnell Rawlings17:41

       You eat well done?

   19. JRJoe Rogan17:43

       No, that's what I'm saying. I don't.

   20. DRDonnell Rawlings17:44

       Oh, but how do you eat your steak?

   21. JRJoe Rogan17:46

       Medium.

   22. DRDonnell Rawlings17:47

       Medium?

   23. JRJoe Rogan17:48

       Yep.

   24. DRDonnell Rawlings17:49

       Not medium rare?

   25. JRJoe Rogan17:51

       I don't... There's a lot of Black people that watch this show.

   26. DRDonnell Rawlings17:57

       (laughs)

   27. JRJoe Rogan17:57

       (laughs) And they're gonna be like, "I'ma tell you when he changed, when they started talking about blood."

   28. DRDonnell Rawlings18:01

       Medium rare.

   29. JRJoe Rogan18:02

       Yeah, when they was like... When they started talking about blood, that's when he lost the streets, so.... that I could do medium. Medium rare, I can't do it. I would-

   30. DRDonnell Rawlings18:11

       I understand.
8. 21:11 – 27:30

   Elk, cooking bragging rights, and Texas barbecue excellence

   1. JRJoe Rogan21:11

      What is it with white people with blood, though?

   2. DRDonnell Rawlings21:13

      I don't know.

   3. JRJoe Rogan21:14

      I mean, like, like, I know this is bizarre, but white people get a kick out of, like, the rarest they can order their steak. Like, the blood part of it, like-

   4. DRDonnell Rawlings21:23

      No.

   5. JRJoe Rogan21:23

      ... get... What?

   6. DRDonnell Rawlings21:24

      Nobody's... Rare is weird. When somebody orders rare or you know what blue is?

   7. JRJoe Rogan21:27

      But you be, you proud of the blood, Joe.

   8. DRDonnell Rawlings21:30

      No.

   9. JRJoe Rogan21:30

      Every time you post a elk picture, it's like you-

   10. DRDonnell Rawlings21:34

       (laughs)

   11. JRJoe Rogan21:34

       ... you can't just show the meat. You want motherfuckers to see the knife-

   12. DRDonnell Rawlings21:38

       Mm-mm.

   13. JRJoe Rogan21:38

       ... and you do your picture, Joe. And dis- it's like you waited for the blood to sweat at a certain temperature. You know when it looks the bloodiest and that's the shot you always get.

   14. DRDonnell Rawlings21:47

       But that's not what I'm trying to do. What I'm trying to do is show that it's cooked perfectly, that it's medium rare with respect for the meat. When I do it, I use a thermometer. I mean, I do it nice and slow.

   15. JRJoe Rogan21:57

       Oh my God, man.

   16. DRDonnell Rawlings21:57

       And I know you know how to cook. Don't get crazy.

   17. JRJoe Rogan21:59

       Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.

   18. DRDonnell Rawlings22:00

       Don't get crazy.

   19. JRJoe Rogan22:01

       Wait a minute, Joe.

   20. DRDonnell Rawlings22:01

       Just trying to explain something.

   21. JRJoe Rogan22:02

       Wait a minute, Joe.

   22. DRDonnell Rawlings22:03

       What?

   23. JRJoe Rogan22:04

       You're a man of wilderness.

   24. DRDonnell Rawlings22:06

       Yes.

   25. JRJoe Rogan22:06

       Right? And all that, you're well respected.

   26. DRDonnell Rawlings22:08

       Right.

   27. JRJoe Rogan22:09

       Right?

   28. DRDonnell Rawlings22:09

       Look at that, though.

   29. JRJoe Rogan22:09

       Yeah, look at that, Joe. Look at that.

   30. DRDonnell Rawlings22:11

       That shit's perfect. It's perfect.
9. 27:30 – 33:22

   Comedy during COVID: clubs, masks, bubbles, and grocery-store enforcement stories

   1. JRJoe Rogan27:30

      How does it feel? I know it's a crazy question, get it all the time. From being from a place, like you were saying, like, what we took advantage of-

   2. DRDonnell Rawlings27:37

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan27:37

      ... and one of the things ... We never took advantage of stage time, 'cause we always did it, but not having it accessible to you all the time. How does it feel here with not being able to be like, "You know what? I'm getting ready to go do, like, fucking three spots and hammer some shit out real quick"?

   4. DRDonnell Rawlings27:53

      Well, th- I haven't done that since March, you know, since, uh, the store closed down. There was no, uh, comedy at all in LA. So it was-

   5. JRJoe Rogan28:02

      Right.

   6. DRDonnell Rawlings28:02

      ... it was a whole life shift. Um, the only time I did it on the road was July. And in July, I did four shows at the Houston Improv. I had a great fucking time.

   7. JRJoe Rogan28:12

      I just left there, man.

   8. DRDonnell Rawlings28:13

      Great place.

   9. JRJoe Rogan28:14

      It was... Did you feel... I know this sounds crazy. I know we gonna get to some mask shit, mask shit story, whatever.

   10. DRDonnell Rawlings28:21

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan28:21

       But it's a club that had a certain capacity. Now, they gotta trim it down-

   12. DRDonnell Rawlings28:24

       Mm-hmm.

   13. JRJoe Rogan28:25

       ... to meet whatever the mandated rules are.

   14. DRDonnell Rawlings28:27

       Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan28:27

       But people were in there. Temperature check, they were in there.

   16. DRDonnell Rawlings28:29

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan28:30

       I know this sounds crazy. Some people wore masks, some people didn't have masks.

   18. DRDonnell Rawlings28:34

       Right.

   19. JRJoe Rogan28:34

       And I think, if I'm not mistaken, they sell the tickets as a group, right?

   20. DRDonnell Rawlings28:38

       I don't know if they're doing that now, but they're doing that at a lot of places.

   21. JRJoe Rogan28:40

       A- and it's like you feel good about it-

   22. DRDonnell Rawlings28:43

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan28:43

       ... you know? But then it's like people take away from that feeling because it's always somebody like, "Ah, where's the mask? Where's the mask?"

   24. DRDonnell Rawlings28:51

       Right. There, there are people that are rightly upset at people taking risks because those people that do take risks could then get sick. And if they're irresponsible enough to take a risk and get sick, they might be irresponsible enough to go out and mingle with people when they know they're sick.

   25. JRJoe Rogan29:06

       But then-

   26. DRDonnell Rawlings29:06

       Some people are like that. Some people are selfish. You know that, right?

   27. JRJoe Rogan29:10

       I know that.

   28. DRDonnell Rawlings29:11

       Yeah. So that's what-

   29. JRJoe Rogan29:11

       Then you have to be-

   30. DRDonnell Rawlings29:12

       And then they could even give it out when they don't know they have it.
10. 33:22 – 34:26

    Politicians, performance, and media “fake news” framing

    1. JRJoe Rogan33:22

       So does that mean that we believe everything's about... You got... So that's a perfect example of you know a lot of things are, uh, motivated through politics and looks. You know what I'm saying? Everything that you see not what... It's not really what you think it is, so how much, uh, how much are you gonna put into a person? Like what their thoughts are.

    2. DRDonnell Rawlings33:41

       A politician?

    3. JRJoe Rogan33:41

       Yeah.

    4. DRDonnell Rawlings33:43

       Not much. Y- What kind of person wants to do that? That's the problem. What kind of person wants to be a governor? It's, they're not normal. And you, you didn't care until the pandemic. When the pandemic rolled around, you realized, "Oh, the mayor matters. It really matters who your mayor is."

    5. JRJoe Rogan33:57

       You know what I think a lot of them like, like have dreams of a certain amount of fame and wanna be superstars.

    6. DRDonnell Rawlings34:05

       Yeah.

    7. JRJoe Rogan34:05

       'Cause even though you say you do it for the people, you have to be likable f- or have some type of personality to connect-

    8. DRDonnell Rawlings34:10

       Sure.

    9. JRJoe Rogan34:10

       ... with those people.

    10. DRDonnell Rawlings34:11

        And you're cultivating-

    11. JRJoe Rogan34:12

        You know?

    12. DRDonnell Rawlings34:13

        ... your act. They have an act too.

    13. JRJoe Rogan34:14

        100%.

    14. DRDonnell Rawlings34:15

        They have an act that's different than our act. Our act is to make people laugh, their act is to get people to think that they're the person who's got the solution. "There's our leader. There's our leader."

    15. JRJoe Rogan34:22

        So their act is to, is to lie?

    16. DRDonnell Rawlings34:24

        Yes. 100%.

11. 34:26 – 38:25

    David Goggins’ feet, discipline, and finding answers in yourself

    1. JRJoe Rogan34:26

       Man, Dave... You know what, Joe? We're going through, going through all of this shit and even with this last election, whoever you decided you liked, appreciated, whatever, it was just a weird thing going on. It was a weird thing going on. And I was watching one of David Goggins posts and I have to say, David Goggins, I've never seen nobody have worse feet than my feet.

    2. DRDonnell Rawlings34:46

       Oh, his feet are broken down, but he runs-

    3. JRJoe Rogan34:49

       But his is-

    4. DRDonnell Rawlings34:49

       He just got done running 240 miles.

    5. JRJoe Rogan34:51

       I know you was gonna defend that and I was gonna say-

    6. DRDonnell Rawlings34:52

       (laughs)

    7. JRJoe Rogan34:53

       ... the same thing, Joe. I know you were gonna say, "But what has he done with tr- his feet and what have you done with..."

    8. DRDonnell Rawlings34:57

       (laughs)

    9. JRJoe Rogan34:57

       So it... I know you were gonna be like, "You know how many mountains?" Those are fucking rock blisters.

    10. DRDonnell Rawlings35:04

        Yeah, legitimate.

    11. JRJoe Rogan35:05

        I knew you was gonna say that and that's the point I was gonna make and that's the point I was gonna make. He said, "Everybody is a-"

    12. DRDonnell Rawlings35:11

        There they are.

    13. JRJoe Rogan35:11

        Yeah.

    14. DRDonnell Rawlings35:12

        Jesus Christ, look at those big toes.

    15. JRJoe Rogan35:14

        Yeah, those look like cra- like they've been through it.

    16. DRDonnell Rawlings35:16

        That is hilarious. Those, that thing on the left, you showed me that, if you cut out like the, the-

    17. JRJoe Rogan35:22

        Ouch!

    18. DRDonnell Rawlings35:22

        ... the right foot's big toe-

    19. JRJoe Rogan35:24

        Damn, son!

    20. DRDonnell Rawlings35:24

        ... that right foot's big toe, if you showed me a photo of that and didn't show me the rest of his foot, I'd be like, "Uh, that's like a snail or something."

    21. JRJoe Rogan35:31

        People would say-

    22. DRDonnell Rawlings35:31

        It's from another planet.

    23. JRJoe Rogan35:31

        If you did that, people would say, "That was my foot."

    24. DRDonnell Rawlings35:33

        That's a Mars, a Mars rock.

    25. JRJoe Rogan35:36

        But like you said-

    26. DRDonnell Rawlings35:37

        (laughs)

    27. JRJoe Rogan35:37

        But like-

    28. DRDonnell Rawlings35:37

        Give me... Just zoom, zoom in on just the toe. Don't show me anything but his right toe. That's a rock from Mars.

    29. JRJoe Rogan35:44

        That's, that's-

    30. DRDonnell Rawlings35:45

        That's not real.
12. 38:25 – 41:42

    Donnell’s product pivot: lotion (CBD) and pandemic-driven entrepreneurship

    1. DRDonnell Rawlings38:25

       Well, I know, we- we sold candles the last time you were down here.

    2. JRJoe Rogan38:26

       No, son, you don't know about that right there.

    3. DRDonnell Rawlings38:28

       Fighting ashiness. Yeah.

    4. JRJoe Rogan38:29

       Yo, son, that is... Joe, put a little on your hand.

    5. DRDonnell Rawlings38:32

       Yeah.

    6. JRJoe Rogan38:32

       Please put a little on your hand.

    7. DRDonnell Rawlings38:33

       It smells good. It smells good.

    8. JRJoe Rogan38:34

       That shit is vegan, it's all natural.

    9. DRDonnell Rawlings38:36

       Mm.

    10. JRJoe Rogan38:36

        It's fire, son.

    11. DRDonnell Rawlings38:38

        Hmm.

    12. JRJoe Rogan38:38

        That's because you... Watch what I say, son.

    13. DRDonnell Rawlings38:40

        Hmm.

    14. JRJoe Rogan38:41

        Watch what I say.

    15. DRDonnell Rawlings38:42

        Nice.

    16. JRJoe Rogan38:43

        Watch how long that shit lasts, Joe.

    17. DRDonnell Rawlings38:45

        Okay. It feels good.

    18. JRJoe Rogan38:48

        I know it sounds weird. Look at that shit, son.

    19. DRDonnell Rawlings38:49

        It smells good.

    20. JRJoe Rogan38:50

        It's 'cause this shit, son.

    21. DRDonnell Rawlings38:51

        What's in there? What's in there?

    22. JRJoe Rogan38:52

        Raw edge. The ingredients are all on the back. I know you don't got your glass, you don't have to read it, but it's, like, type of oils and coconuts I never heard of in my life.

    23. DRDonnell Rawlings38:59

        It smells like coconut.

    24. JRJoe Rogan39:00

        Coconut, uh, goo-goo, all the black nuts and oils.

    25. DRDonnell Rawlings39:03

        Oh, it's got CBD.

    26. JRJoe Rogan39:03

        CBD, son. You feel me?

    27. DRDonnell Rawlings39:04

        I don't know what this stuff is.

    28. JRJoe Rogan39:06

        When I-

    29. DRDonnell Rawlings39:07

        Mongongo oil? What is that?

    30. JRJoe Rogan39:08

        Yeah, Google it. Google it. Google it.
13. 41:42 – 1:14:54

    Health vs lockdowns: vaccines, immunity, and why fitness messaging is missing

    1. DRDonnell Rawlings41:42

       I don't think the pivot's gonna come for a long time either, in terms of us being able to get back to work like we were.

    2. JRJoe Rogan41:46

       No. No, no, we about to go back to work next summer.

    3. DRDonnell Rawlings41:49

       Next summer you think?

    4. JRJoe Rogan41:50

       Joe.

    5. DRDonnell Rawlings41:51

       Donnell.

    6. JRJoe Rogan41:53

       Well, I'm not trying to say I don't believe in corona right now, but we are on the track of not just deadening shit, but being able to have it under control. We're about to get to the point where people are gonna, uh, have more sense of security. You know what I'm saying? Just think about- think about the progress we made in a year from when this shit first happened, you take a corona test, you had to wait like seven days.

    7. DRDonnell Rawlings42:16

       Right.

    8. JRJoe Rogan42:17

       Think about it when we first... when it first hit. We had to, like, "Oh my God," it was so scary, it was so scary.... and then all these ventilators, ventilators, ventilators. But if you know now, since when the pandemic started, yeah, we're still losing people, but you don't hear that ventilator talk too much no more.

    9. DRDonnell Rawlings42:29

       Well, ventilators are actually a bad idea now, they realized.

    10. JRJoe Rogan42:31

        My point-

    11. DRDonnell Rawlings42:32

        Yeah.

    12. JRJoe Rogan42:32

        ... you know what I'm saying? Like-

    13. DRDonnell Rawlings42:33

        They figured out a lot of things.

    14. JRJoe Rogan42:33

        ... they're finding, this is what-

    15. DRDonnell Rawlings42:35

        I, I did a whole podcast yesterday on COVID-

    16. JRJoe Rogan42:37

        Right.

    17. DRDonnell Rawlings42:37

        ... with, uh, Nicholas Christakis-

    18. JRJoe Rogan42:38

        Yeah.

    19. DRDonnell Rawlings42:38

        ... from Yale.

    20. JRJoe Rogan42:39

        He a COVID nigga?

    21. DRDonnell Rawlings42:40

        He believes that-

    22. JRJoe Rogan42:41

        In COVID?

    23. DRDonnell Rawlings42:42

        ... COVID is a real problem. Yeah, for sure. That was-

    24. JRJoe Rogan42:44

        You don't? I believe it, but I think-

    25. DRDonnell Rawlings42:45

        I believe it-

    26. JRJoe Rogan42:45

        ... it's controlled. Controllable.

    27. DRDonnell Rawlings42:47

        It is controllable, um, and I think there's a, it's a multifaceted problem, and I think we're only handling one aspect of it, which is keep people from working, keep people home, keep people away from people.

    28. JRJoe Rogan42:58

        No, you can't do that.

    29. DRDonnell Rawlings42:59

        You're treating people like they're children.

    30. JRJoe Rogan43:00

        You got... This is what you gotta do, Joe-

Episode duration: 3:24:32