Joe Rogan Experience #1568 - Tom Green

1. 0:02 – 1:05

   Tom Green’s ‘van life’ reset: living and podcasting on the road

   1. TGTom Green0:02

      (drumming) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

   2. NANarrator0:04

      The Joe Rogan Experience.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (rock music) Hello eccentric character known as-

   4. TGTom Green0:14

      (laughs)

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:14

      ... Tom Green.

   6. TGTom Green0:15

      Joe, how are you? Thank you.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:16

      You're, you're the wild man living in a van now.

   8. TGTom Green0:19

      Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:20

      You, you are that eccentric character. You go from being a television and movie star-

   10. TGTom Green0:25

       Mm-hmm.

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:25

       ... to being a wild man-

   12. TGTom Green0:26

       Uh-huh.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:26

       ... traveling the land-

   14. TGTom Green0:28

       Uh-huh.

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:28

       ... with your vagabond dog-

   16. TGTom Green0:30

       Yep.

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:30

       ... that you got from another country.

   18. TGTom Green0:31

       Yeah, yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:32

       She's a rescue from the Bahamas?

   20. TGTom Green0:33

       Yeah, Charlie, yeah, she's a rescue-

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:35

       She's-

   22. TGTom Green0:35

       ... from the Bahamas, yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan0:35

       ... she's goddamn adorable-

   24. TGTom Green0:36

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan0:36

       ... by the way.

   26. TGTom Green0:37

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan0:37

       I love her.

   28. TGTom Green0:37

       Yeah, she's beautiful. I'll show, I'll show everyone around.

   29. JRJoe Rogan0:39

       And you are this eccentric character now. Look at you.

   30. TGTom Green0:42

       I guess so. I feel like maybe ... I feel like in some ways what I'm doing right now is the most normal thing I've done in my life, but it is actually kinda crazy too.
2. 1:05 – 2:28

   Reconnecting with Drew Barrymore after 15 years (and getting tested to appear)

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:05

      Is this the first time you've been tested since you got tested the last time on my show?

   2. TGTom Green1:09

      I got tested one time between, uh, but that's a- another interesting story. But, uh-

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:14

      Let's hear it. What happened?

   4. TGTom Green1:15

      Uh, well, my ex-wife asked me to come on her talk show, and I hadn't talked to her in 15 years.

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:20

      Oh.

   6. TGTom Green1:20

      You know?

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:20

      Drew?

   8. TGTom Green1:21

      Drew, yeah. So-

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:22

      Oh.

   10. TGTom Green1:22

       And so, I thought, "Well, that's, that's-"

   11. JRJoe Rogan1:23

       Was that a trap?

   12. TGTom Green1:25

       Uh, it was nice, it was nice.

   13. JRJoe Rogan1:26

       Did you feel, did you get nervous?

   14. TGTom Green1:27

       It was nice, it was nice. It was nice.

   15. JRJoe Rogan1:28

       Oh.

   16. TGTom Green1:28

       We had a good time.

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:29

       That's cool.

   18. TGTom Green1:29

       And, uh, but I had to get tested to do the show.

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:32

       Oh.

   20. TGTom Green1:32

       And, uh, but it was interesting 'cause, you know, I mean, it was very sort of, uh, interesting thing 'cause, you know, uh, we hadn't talked in 15 years.

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:38

       At all?

   22. TGTom Green1:39

       At all.

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:40

       Mm-hmm.

   24. TGTom Green1:40

       And, uh, and then, uh, you know, all of a sudden, uh, you know, got a call from her saying, "You wanna come and do the new show?" And her show's, her new show's really pretty wacky, you know, like, it's, she's, she's, she's getting really kinda-

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:50

       I like how you put your hands out for wacky.

   26. TGTom Green1:52

       Yeah. Oh, yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:53

       Wacky.

   28. TGTom Green1:53

       Like, she's definitely pushing it in a very sort of ... I, I mean, I'm enjoying the show. It's very funny what she's doing, very, very, very over the top some of the things she does on there.

   29. JRJoe Rogan2:01

       Do you think that's representative her, of her as well?

   30. TGTom Green2:04

       It reminds me a lot of, of, of her when ... Well, I mean, it is her, yeah, for sure, yeah.
3. 2:28 – 6:31

   How the van is built: Boho conversion, interior studio, and solar power setup

   1. TGTom Green2:28

      Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Yeah. You know, it's, it's, it's a whole world, man. It's a whole world that you didn't, you, you, that I didn't really even know about. Like, I didn't know in, in Canada it's called Crown Land, here it's called BLM Land, Bureau of Land Management land.

   2. JRJoe Rogan2:42

      Mm-hmm.

   3. TGTom Green2:42

      I'm sure you know-

   4. JRJoe Rogan2:42

      Yeah.

   5. TGTom Green2:42

      ... all about that from hunting and going out into the wilderness.

   6. JRJoe Rogan2:45

      Mm-hmm.

   7. TGTom Green2:45

      I didn't really know about Bureau of Land Management land, and there's certain apps that will show you all the fire roads, all the remote places that you can go and, uh, do dispersed camping, go boon-docking they call, they call it.

   8. JRJoe Rogan2:59

      Does your van have off-road capabilities? Can you drive on rugged trails?

   9. TGTom Green3:03

      Yeah, pretty good.

   10. JRJoe Rogan3:03

       Yeah.

   11. TGTom Green3:03

       I got like a ... It's not, it's not an off-road vehicle. It's a, it's a, it's a Ram ProMaster 2500. It's, you know, a delivery truck that they convert into a-

   12. JRJoe Rogan3:13

       A lot of people are doing that these days.

   13. TGTom Green3:14

       Yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan3:14

       My friend Tim Pool did that. He got a ... I believe he got a Ram as well.

   15. TGTom Green3:17

       Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan3:17

       His was a Ram, wasn't it, Jamie?

   17. TGTom Green3:19

       I don't know. I don't remember.

   18. JRJoe Rogan3:20

       I think it's a Ram as well, and he did the same thing.

   19. TGTom Green3:22

       So the-

   20. JRJoe Rogan3:22

       He turned it into a bug-out van.

   21. TGTom Green3:23

       So the Ram is, is wider than the, than the Mercedes Sprinter van, which you see a lot of. It's wider, so I can actually sleep full width-wise, the bed's width-wide, wi- width-wise at the back, but, but, uh, you know, it, it was just kinda happened pretty randomly. I saw this clip online of these guys in Arizona who convert the vans. I called them up. They, they were on Shark Tank, they're, these guys, they're called Boho. This van's called Boho. They're really cool dudes.

   22. JRJoe Rogan3:49

       Boho?

   23. TGTom Green3:49

       Yeah, Boho.

   24. JRJoe Rogan3:50

       Like B-O-H-O?

   25. TGTom Green3:52

       Yeah. And by the way, uh, they are like ... They love this, that I'm here right now. They're your biggest fan. They, like, literally have watched e- every episode of your show, and so they're gonna take a shit right now. They're probably really happy that I'm mentioning them on the show. But, um, they, uh, they were on Shark Tank. They're just, these two young guys. They started this company where they bought Ram ProMasters, totally independent thing, and they do this great carpentry. Like, they build, build out the inside. It's all-

   26. JRJoe Rogan4:17

       Oh.

   27. TGTom Green4:17

       ... cedar. They take-

   28. JRJoe Rogan4:18

       Do you have, uh, images of your, your van online?

   29. TGTom Green4:21

       Yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan4:21

       There you are.
4. 6:31 – 14:59

   First nights on BLM land: getting stuck in the Mojave and learning quickly

   1. TGTom Green6:31

      It's pretty good. I, I'll tell you one thing though, I am always filling up. Like, I never let it go below three quarter of a tank, 'cause-

   2. JRJoe Rogan6:37

      Just in case shit gets weird?

   3. TGTom Green6:38

      ... I never know where I'm going every day.

   4. JRJoe Rogan6:40

      Right.

   5. TGTom Green6:40

      That's the... Like, I got some weird stories over the last six weeks where I've just been, like, not sure where I'm gonna sleep and it's, the sun's going down and then I end up going down a crazy road. And then... The first night I got stuck in the Mojave Desert because I looked up on this app, "dispersed fire road." I'm thinking, "Oh, that's pretty cool." You know? Th- I get there and there's a sign, it says, "Tortoises crossing. Careful." I dr- start driving out into the desert. I'm 200 yards (laughs) in, I get stuck, 'cause it's the soft sand, get stuck in the soft sand. So I've been a little more careful. But, but, um-

   6. JRJoe Rogan7:15

      How do you get out when you get stuck in the soft sand?

   7. TGTom Green7:17

      Call Triple A.

   8. JRJoe Rogan7:18

      Oh.

   9. TGTom Green7:19

      (laughs)

   10. JRJoe Rogan7:19

       Triple A comes to the desert?

   11. TGTom Green7:20

       The soft s- I was, uh, I was 100 yards from the, from the, from the freeway. It was like I hadn't even-

   12. JRJoe Rogan7:24

       Jesus Christ.

   13. TGTom Green7:24

       ... gotten into it yet.

   14. JRJoe Rogan7:25

       (laughs)

   15. TGTom Green7:26

       It was (laughs) , it was so pathetic. It was hilarious actually.

   16. JRJoe Rogan7:28

       (laughs)

   17. TGTom Green7:28

       'Cause I'd been planning for months, you know?

   18. JRJoe Rogan7:30

       That's hilarious.

   19. TGTom Green7:30

       And then all of a sudden, I'm like, I'm seeing the, you know, the free- This was, it was, like, Barstow or something like that.

   20. JRJoe Rogan7:34

       So, can I... K- Before we get into your adventure and I wanna-

   21. TGTom Green7:36

       Yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan7:36

       I wanna t-

   23. TGTom Green7:37

       Yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan7:37

       ... get more into this van build-out.

   25. TGTom Green7:38

       Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan7:39

       So you started it out with just buying this van.

   27. TGTom Green7:42

       Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

   28. JRJoe Rogan7:42

       Is it a new van, or did you buy it-

   29. TGTom Green7:44

       Yeah. Brand new. Yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan7:44

       So you bought a brand new van and then you bring it to these boho guys.
5. 14:59 – 18:25

   Food, isolation, and COVID anxiety: cancer experience shapes his risk tolerance

   1. JRJoe Rogan14:59

      So, you're spending a lot of time with no people.

   2. TGTom Green15:01

      Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

   3. JRJoe Rogan15:02

      Like, did it feel weird coming here? Like, is all the-

   4. TGTom Green15:04

      Mm-hmm.

   5. JRJoe Rogan15:04

      ... people, security people here-

   6. TGTom Green15:06

      Mm-hmm.

   7. JRJoe Rogan15:06

      ... and Jamie-

   8. TGTom Green15:06

      Oh, yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan15:06

      ... and Jeff, and m- Did it feel weird? Like-

   10. TGTom Green15:08

       Oh, yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan15:08

       All these people?

   12. TGTom Green15:09

       Mm-hmm.

   13. JRJoe Rogan15:10

       What's it feel like?

   14. TGTom Green15:12

       Uh ... You know, it's interesting because you start to feel a little bit ... And I think this is probably something that maybe is affecting everybody with the, the, the, the, the quarantining and the pandemic and all that stuff. Maybe not. Maybe, maybe ... Certainly not everyone's in their van. But I ... You start to get to the point where you think, "Maybe I ..." I didn't get social anxiety coming here because, like ... I know you guys are getting all tested and all that stuff, but I, I, I have a little bi- ... You know I have a little bit more paranoia about getting this virus than the average person.

   15. JRJoe Rogan15:45

       Because of cancer? 'Cause the fact that-

   16. TGTom Green15:47

       I think so.

   17. JRJoe Rogan15:48

       ... you have cancer?

   18. TGTom Green15:48

       I think so, yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan15:48

       Yeah. Makes sense.

   20. TGTom Green15:49

       So, you know, 'cause I just don't ... It's not even that I feel like I'm more susceptible to it. It's just I really hate being sick. When I had cancer, I was in the hospital for six weeks. It was, like, painful. It's ... I just hate it. I f- hate that loss of control, you know? So, so ... But, no, I mean, uh-

   21. JRJoe Rogan16:06

       Are you taking care of yourself, like vitamin-wise? Are you taking-

   22. TGTom Green16:09

       Uh, like, I, you know-

   23. JRJoe Rogan16:10

       ... supplements?

   24. TGTom Green16:11

       I think I'm eating pretty healthy. I don't take-

   25. JRJoe Rogan16:13

       With your spam and Ragu?

   26. TGTom Green16:15

       But, I mean, like, there's a lot of vitamins in that.

   27. JRJoe Rogan16:16

       Slow down.

   28. TGTom Green16:17

       There's a lot of vitamins in that stuff. Um-

   29. JRJoe Rogan16:20

       No. No.

   30. TGTom Green16:21

       Look, I'm, I'm, I'm, uh-
6. 18:25 – 25:31

   Safety in the wild: coyotes, javelinas, hunting gear, and not getting lost

   1. TGTom Green18:25

      Yeah, I, I, I, I, uh, I also, I did bring a shotgun as well.

   2. JRJoe Rogan18:29

      Oh, Jesus.

   3. TGTom Green18:29

      Mm-hmm. Yeah.

   4. JRJoe Rogan18:30

      For protection or for birds?

   5. TGTom Green18:31

      Uh, (clicks tongue) well, I have-

   6. JRJoe Rogan18:33

      Or rabbits?

   7. TGTom Green18:34

      ... I, I, I've been hunting, but I have not actually, uh, seen an animal yet.

   8. JRJoe Rogan18:38

      No animals at all?

   9. TGTom Green18:39

      No. No. Uh, well-

   10. JRJoe Rogan18:40

       Are you bringing your dog?

   11. TGTom Green18:41

       I, uh-

   12. JRJoe Rogan18:41

       That might be a part of the problem.

   13. TGTom Green18:43

       Uh, no, I don't bring the dog, actually. I don't.

   14. JRJoe Rogan18:46

       So when you say you go hunting, what are you hunting for?

   15. TGTom Green18:48

       Well, I, uh, in, in my mind, it would be, it would be for birds.

   16. JRJoe Rogan18:52

       Mm-hmm.

   17. TGTom Green18:52

       And I have a bird gun, so. But I ha-

   18. JRJoe Rogan18:54

       What gauge?

   19. TGTom Green18:55

       Uh, it's a 12-gauge.

   20. JRJoe Rogan18:57

       That's a big-

   21. TGTom Green18:58

       Benelli.

   22. JRJoe Rogan18:58

       ... gun.

   23. TGTom Green18:58

       Yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan18:58

       For birds.

   25. TGTom Green19:00

       I- is it?

   26. JRJoe Rogan19:00

       Yeah.

   27. TGTom Green19:01

       Well, well, I guess I got ... Yeah, I guess so. It's a Benelli 3-

   28. JRJoe Rogan19:04

       It's like, for ducks, I guess.

   29. TGTom Green19:05

       Maybe. I don't even know what I'm doing, Joe. I don't know.

   30. JRJoe Rogan19:07

       You can ... But you're, but, but, but what birds are you targeting?
7. 25:31 – 33:24

   Why solitude changes you: no cell service, post-and-ghost, and self-inventory

   1. JRJoe Rogan25:31

      It's- there's something about those, uh, lo- alone trips that people say you're- you've- you do sort of, uh, an inventory of your life-

   2. TGTom Green25:40

      Mm-hmm.

   3. JRJoe Rogan25:40

      ... and start assessing your, your behavior and who you are.

   4. TGTom Green25:44

      Mm-hmm.

   5. JRJoe Rogan25:44

      And you're alone for so long that you're- you're forced to sort of think about what you've done, and are you happy with your choices in life? Are you happy with your job? Are you happy with your relationships?

   6. TGTom Green25:56

      Yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan25:57

      Is that what you're experiencing too?

   8. TGTom Green25:58

      Oh, yeah. Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan25:59

      My friend Ar- uh, Aaron Snyder, he's been on the podcast before, he owns Kifaru. It's a, a big, uh, backpack company.

   10. TGTom Green26:07

       Mm-hmm.

   11. JRJoe Rogan26:07

       They make, like, really super, high-end hunting backpacks, and he spends hundreds of days a year in the woods by himself.

   12. TGTom Green26:16

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan26:16

       Either by himself or with other people hunting, and he goes on these long backpacking solo adventures hunting-

   14. TGTom Green26:22

       Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan26:22

       ... where he goes deep into the woods many, many, many miles in by himself-

   16. TGTom Green26:25

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan26:25

       ... with just his camp on his back.

   18. TGTom Green26:27

       Uh-huh. Uh-huh.

   19. JRJoe Rogan26:27

       That's it.

   20. TGTom Green26:27

       Uh-huh. Uh-huh.

   21. JRJoe Rogan26:28

       And that's the thing that he always says is that you'll, you know, you get in there and then on- once you get back to civilization you wanna call ex-girlfriends and apologize-

   22. TGTom Green26:35

       (laughs)

   23. JRJoe Rogan26:35

       ... and call friends and mend fences and, you know-

   24. TGTom Green26:38

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan26:38

       ... just sort of, like, give you an inventory of what you've been ... Some- I think sometimes we get caught up in momentum in life, you know, that life is, uh, a series of things that you have to do. You wake up in the morning, you have to be at work at a certain time, you try to get to the gym, you try to get this, and then you have, uh, phone calls you have to make, and then you have to, you know, sync your calendar with the other people you're working with, and then there's this and that, and then you're planning for- in two weeks we have that meeting, and this and that, and buh buh buh buh buh buh buh. And you get so caught up in momentum, you never stop to take a breath and look at yourself and look at what you're doing and go, "Is this what I like? Is this what I wanna do? Or is this something that I'm just ... Am I on this, like, sled that's flying down the side of this snow-covered mountain and I don't know exactly how I'm gonna get off of it?"

   26. TGTom Green27:26

       Uh-huh. Uh-huh. And you made me think of something. A lot of the places I've been, no cell service.

   27. JRJoe Rogan27:31

       Mm. Yeah.

   28. TGTom Green27:33

       And so it's three days and, like, maybe a text will fire out but there's no video, there's no-

   29. JRJoe Rogan27:39

       No reading YouTube comments.

   30. TGTom Green27:41

       No reading YouTube comments.
8. 33:24 – 55:53

   Chasing beauty: Utah’s Valley of the Gods, native ruins, and ghost towns in Texas

   1. TGTom Green33:24

      Uh, well, first I... Actually, first... So, one of the most beautiful places I went, by the way, was in Utah. I went to this place called the Valley of the Gods, on the-

   2. JRJoe Rogan33:30

      Oh, I've heard of that.

   3. TGTom Green33:31

      ... on the Navajo, uh, reservation there. Oh my gosh.

   4. JRJoe Rogan33:34

      Yeah?

   5. TGTom Green33:35

      Oh, there's a video of that. I don't know if you have a video of that drone shot. That is, it's like... They shot all the John Wayne movies out there in Monument Valley-

   6. JRJoe Rogan33:41

      Oh.

   7. TGTom Green33:41

      ... and then just down the road is this place called the Valley of the Gods. Look at this place.

   8. JRJoe Rogan33:44

      Ah, man.

   9. TGTom Green33:44

      So, look, look. All alone right there. Look at that.

   10. JRJoe Rogan33:47

       That's you. Look at that. That's your drone footage.

   11. TGTom Green33:49

       Yeah, yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan33:49

       Wow.

   13. TGTom Green33:50

       And, you know, a big part of this for me is also looking for places that are gonna pho- photograph well, you know? 'Cause I, I enjoy photography and, and video, so...

   14. JRJoe Rogan34:00

       Do you have all this stuff on tomgreen.com? Is this on your YouTube channel?

   15. TGTom Green34:03

       I put it on my YouTube channel, yeah, yeah. And then I link it to my website.

   16. JRJoe Rogan34:06

       Wow.

   17. TGTom Green34:06

       Yeah, it's on tomgreen.com too, yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan34:08

       Wow.

   19. TGTom Green34:08

       So, so I get these shots. You can see Charlie chilling out there. Charlie is, like, intrigued by the drone. Like, the first 10 times I've flown it, she just sort of... (laughs) See, she's going under the van 'cause she hears the v- drone coming? She-

   20. JRJoe Rogan34:20

       Did you call her Chopper and Charlie?

   21. TGTom Green34:22

       Uh, no, I, I, I must've just... No, Charlie, uh, yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan34:25

       Did someone call her Chopper? Did I just call her Chopper?

   23. TGTom Green34:28

       I don't know. Maybe, yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan34:29

       I'm totally being dissed, right?

   25. TGTom Green34:29

       That's a good... That's your new nickname. That's your new middle name. Charlie Chopper.

   26. JRJoe Rogan34:32

       Why did I call her Chopper?

   27. TGTom Green34:33

       (laughs)

   28. JRJoe Rogan34:33

       Did someone else call her Chopper outside?

   29. TGTom Green34:36

       Yeah, Charlie Charlie, yeah. Na- named after Travels with Charlie, the John Steinbeck, uh, novel.

   30. JRJoe Rogan34:42

       Oh.
9. 55:53 – 1:07:11

   Rogan’s move to Austin and the Spotify era: independence vs ‘clipboard people’

   1. TGTom Green55:53

      ... like, that was incredible. But, uh, no, it's just something, something amazing about it, for sure. But, so, yeah, yeah. It's... And by the way, like, first of all, I, I, I, I, I believe I said congratulations already, uh, off camera, but how cool is this, man? Thank you. Congratulations.

   2. JRJoe Rogan56:09

      Thanks, buddy.

   3. TGTom Green56:10

      I, uh, you know, I'm super, uh, uh... It doesn't make sense to say proud of you because, I mean, what the fuck does that mean? But, you know, like, I am though. I mean, like, I just, I, I think it's so cool, and I sent you a text right after the l- after you announced your Spotify deal, and I was just thinking like, nobody has ever done that before. You know, like, like, in the history of all broadcasting. You know, I said, you know, Johnny Carson was a guy who we all looked up to back in the day, had everybody watching him. It was a different world. Television was, you know, three networks. Everybody watched Johnny. He was a guy who became this very successful person off of traditional media, but to, to do what you've done is just so incredible, and I just... Congratulations.

   4. JRJoe Rogan56:57

      Thanks, buddy. Thank you.

   5. TGTom Green56:57

      You know, it's definitely something that, you know, I, I, uh, you know, we talked about this before, but I always thought, "Man, you could do that. You could do that. You could be the biggest show and not be on network TV." I always believed that, and, uh, thank you for, for, for proving it because it's, like, it's so cool, and I love the studio, by the way. It's, uh-

   6. JRJoe Rogan57:19

      Well, thank you for being a pioneer, man, because you gave me some of the-

   7. TGTom Green57:22

      I mean, I'm a real pioneer now. I'm living in a log-

   8. JRJoe Rogan57:24

      (laughs)

   9. TGTom Green57:25

      ... chopping wood for, for dinner.

   10. JRJoe Rogan57:27

       But you were a pioneer of this 'cause you gave me the seeds of the earliest ideas about doing a podcast when-

   11. TGTom Green57:33

       Well, and you've been very kind with, with, when you've said these things to me o- over the years and last time, but, but, you know, what I, what I find amazing about it that I never was able to figure out, I was into the technology and LFI. I was never really able to figure out what is so amazing, what I- I've watched you figure out, is you've really made a show that really captures the interest of, uh, people. You know, a l- huge population of people love what you guys talk about on the show, and that's what's, what's really cool, you know? Uh, you know, just, just, I mean, how did you determine that, like, you know, I, I, I, I just watched your interview with Kanye. I just watched your interview with Alex Jones, and I'm just, I'm just seeing all these subjects that I see sw- swirling around, and I'm going, "Well, that's the kinda stuff that, like, when I go down a rabbit hole on the internet, like, I wanna, I want to, you know, learn about these-

   12. JRJoe Rogan58:25

       Yeah.

   13. TGTom Green58:25

       ... things." Was there a moment where you realized, oh wait, like, if I talk about, you know, X, Y, or Z, that's really capturing people's attention? Or was it just-

   14. JRJoe Rogan58:35

       Never.

   15. TGTom Green58:36

       It was just what you were interested in?

   16. JRJoe Rogan58:37

       Yes.

   17. TGTom Green58:37

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan58:37

       Never for a second.

   19. TGTom Green58:39

       Mm-hmm.

   20. JRJoe Rogan58:39

       Never for a second have I said, "This is gonna capture people's interest."

   21. TGTom Green58:42

       Uh-huh. Uh-huh.

   22. JRJoe Rogan58:43

       Never. Everything has been like, "Ooh, I wanna talk to that guy. Oh, that guy said he was in, uh, uh, uh, a navy air- uh, a navy jet and he was tracking a UFO, Commander David Fravor?

   23. TGTom Green58:54

       Yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan58:54

       Ooh, I wanna talk to him."

   25. TGTom Green58:55

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan58:56

       "Oh, Bob Lazar said he worked on alien technology in Area S4? Oh, I wanna talk to him."

   27. TGTom Green59:01

       Mm-hmm.

   28. JRJoe Rogan59:01

       "Oh, this guy said he saw Bigfoot," or, "That guys says he's working on life extension and figuring how to lengthen your telomeres," or, "This guy knows how to," you know, what- whatever it is, whatever they're, they're figuring out, the age of the universe or people are just, you know, people that are writing books or people that are, you know, former military people or people that are... Whatever they are. If, if I find them interesting... I like people. I'm a big fan of people. I like talking to all kinds of different people. I like the way their brain thinks. I like comparing the way people's brain thinks. I like, I like sorta, like, just seeing how they view the world, 'cause the way you view the world is the way you personally view the world, but it's very much influenced by the things that you've found attractive about the way the other people that you run into see things. Like, we are not individuals in the sense that we're autonomous, completely alone, without any influence whatsoever from the outside world. We are, we have multi-influences. We're constantly being influenced by our envi-... That's why your env- where you live is so important. And one of the things that I found in moving from LA to Austin...... is that where you live, it makes a big impact on the amount of stress you have and how you feel. I feel so much better here. Just right away. Disconnected from Hollywood, disconnected from, you know, traditional forms of show business. But also, the people here, the people here are different.

   29. TGTom Green1:00:30

       Yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:00:30

       They're more relaxed.

Episode duration: 4:36:17