Joe Rogan Experience #1575 - Bill Burr

Bill Burr 0:02 (drumming) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

Narrator 0:04 The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (rock music plays)

Joe Rogan 0:14 We gotta know about your fights. We're already rolling, so just keep rolling.

Bill Burr 0:17 Oh, sorry.

Joe Rogan 0:18 Sorry.

Bill Burr 0:18 Oh, we are?

Joe Rogan 0:19 Go ahead. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Yeah. No, he just- We're talking about, uh, Steve Byrne's new movie.

Bill Burr 0:23 Yeah, Opening Act.

Joe Rogan 0:24 Oh, Steve Byrne got in a lot of fights?

Bill Burr 0:26 Y- yeah. He had more than-

Joe Rogan 0:28 He's so nice.

Bill Burr 0:29 He is. He is, but I don't know what it was, but I remember, (laughs) he was, like, at the Comic Strip and s- he did the late night show and somehow somebody threw a chair at him. I remember it hit him in the head and h- he got cut.

Joe Rogan 0:41 (laughs)

Bill Burr 0:41 And then, like, two days later I go to the Comic Strip and, uh, somebody had taken his headshot down and put, like, staples in his forehead where he got hit-

Joe Rogan 0:49 (laughs)

Bill Burr 0:49 ... by the chair and put it back up. I guess back, back when you could do stuff like that and could just tease somebody, you know?

Joe Rogan 0:54 Yeah.

Bill Burr 0:54 So, uh, yeah, so he had that movie coming. I was just saying it got nominated f- for one of th- one- some film festival award, so I was very, very happy for him.

Joe Rogan 1:01 That, he's a guy, like, if you, you had told me, like, "Do you think Steve Byrne has ever been in a fight?" I'd be like, "Pfft, no. He's so nice. Who's gonna fight Steve Byrne?"

Bill Burr 1:10 Uh, I'll let S-

Joe Rogan 1:10 I've only seen him-

Bill Burr 1:10 ... I'll let Steve come on here one day and tell the stories.

Joe Rogan 1:12 I would love to hear it. W-

Bill Burr 1:14 I, I know a half a dozen.

Joe Rogan 1:15 Well, Al Madrigal's another one.

Bill Burr 1:17 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:17 Like, when I heard about Al M- that Al Madrigal has a temper, I'm like, "What?"

Bill Burr 1:21 Al?

Joe Rogan 1:21 Like, 'ca- I didn't... I've never seen it. That's weird. Like, m- the side to Al I know is always hugs. Like, I, I've, I've known Al since he was an opening act at the old Cob's-

Bill Burr 1:30 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:30 ... in San Francisco, down, you know, downstairs, the little tiny club. Did you ever work that place?

Bill Burr 1:35 No, I did, I've done the regula- I didn't know that there was another one.

Joe Rogan 1:38 The old Cob's was tiny. It was a little, tiny place.

Bill Burr 1:41 Right.

Joe Rogan 1:41 It was like a... There was, uh, Tom Sawyer, the guy who r- ran the, the second Cob's, he used to run, like... It was a great club. It was great.

Bill Burr 1:48 Right.

Joe Rogan 1:48 He'd... He w- he had a real good taste for comedy, so the com- the level of comedy was very good. Don Herrera told me about it.

Bill Burr 1:54 Okay.

Joe Rogan 1:55 So I went there and this was when Al Madrigal was first starting out. One of the first times I ever hung out with Al Madrigal, I was working there for the weekend. Al was the... I think he was the emcee, and, uh, after the show, he and I went over to, I think it was his brother's house, and we got super baked and watched old Oprah Winfrey episodes. (laughs)

Bill Burr 2:14 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 2:15 It was Oprah back when it was big hair Oprah. Remember big hair Oprah?

Bill Burr 2:19 I remember crazy show Oprah.

Joe Rogan 2:22 That was the show.

Bill Burr 2:22 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:22 She had, like, KKK people and there was, like, placid- white plastic chairs.

Bill Burr 2:26 Yeah, midgets and all kinds of-

Joe Rogan 2:27 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Bill Burr 2:27 ... just crazy shit, yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:28 That was what Oprah was, and i- we were just barbecued, smoking out of a bong- (laughs) ... like high school kids-

Bill Burr 2:34 Right.

Joe Rogan 2:34 ... watching Oprah Winfrey.

Bill Burr 2:35 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 2:36 That's how-

Bill Burr 2:36 That's amazing.

Joe Rogan 2:37 Yeah, this big hair Oprah. Old school. Oh, wow.

Bill Burr 2:40 Old school.

Joe Rogan 2:41 I don't rememb- well, that's, that's when she was probably just in Chicago, right?

Bill Burr 2:45 I do not know, but it was like, you know-

Joe Rogan 2:46 No, wait. I was watching it back or I, I knew of it. Well, that was back when... She had the s- the, the smarts to see where that was going, 'cause that was, like, Morton Downey Jr., the Ricki Lake's-

Bill Burr 2:56 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:56 ... and all of-

Bill Burr 2:57 Yep.

Joe Rogan 2:57 ... them were just doing... Like, daytime TV was fucking bananas.

Bill Burr 3:00 Crazy.

Joe Rogan 3:01 It was crazy, and then Jerry Springer, I think, like, he was like the, the GOAT of all of that stuff.

Bill Burr 3:05 He hung in there longer than all of them. Jenny Jones-

Joe Rogan 3:08 Ugh.

Bill Burr 3:08 ... was doing it but remember Jenny Jones? She used to have a comedy show. Do you remember this? Where it was women's only. Sh-

Joe Rogan 3:15 Right.

Bill Burr 3:15 Jenny Jones was a comic before she was ever one of those daytime talk show hosts.

Joe Rogan 3:19 Okay.

Bill Burr 3:19 She was, like, a pretty good comic, you know, doing the road, but she found a niche, and that niche was girls only.

Joe Rogan 3:24 Mm-hmm.

Bill Burr 3:24 So she wouldn't let anybody in that was a man. No managers, get the fuck out of here. It was all women.

Joe Rogan 3:29 (laughs) That's awesome.

Bill Burr 3:29 And so they would tell, like, dirty dick sucking stories and wild shit and just do wild comedy only for women. And Jenny Jones had a super popular daytime talk show until they had a show-

Joe Rogan 3:42 Yeah.

Bill Burr 3:42 ... where they had a guy on and he said, uh, "You have a secret crush," and they bring in the secret crush and it's another guy that he works with. And the guy who he works with is like-

Joe Rogan 3:51 Yeah.

Bill Burr 3:51 ... "You know, I've always, I've always fantasized about you," and this and that. And so he went over to that guy's house after the show aired, he was embarrassed, and he shot him and killed him.

Joe Rogan 3:58 Yeah, I remember.

Bill Burr 3:59 Yeah, and then they were like, (screech) "Cut!"

Joe Rogan 4:01 (laughs)

Bill Burr 4:01 That was it. They killed the show.

Joe Rogan 4:04 (laughs)

Bill Burr 4:05 Uh, you know, it happens. Music, this, everything like that. That was the end of the disco era, I guess, of the, uh, the talk shows, but, um...

Joe Rogan 4:13 But with Al Madrigal there, I can't imagine that he had a temper. Like, my experiences with Al Madrigal was always super fun, very friendly, always laughing.

Bill Burr 4:21 No, he doesn't snap. He just sorta gets quiet and then stares at the target-

Joe Rogan 4:26 (laughs)

Bill Burr 4:26 ... and the wheels start turning. Like, he is like... I think he's half Sicilian, half Mexican-

Joe Rogan 4:31 Yes. (laughs)

Bill Burr 4:31 ... so he has all that love, family, all that, but if you cross him, that-

Joe Rogan 4:36 The anger.

Bill Burr 4:36 ... other things come into mo- Like, it's like... It's not like me wh- I got, like, the German-Irish temper where I just flip out and I start screaming, you know. He's, like, plotting, uh, your demise. Like, it's, it's-

Joe Rogan 4:48 (laughs)

Bill Burr 4:49 I used to do a thing with him at the-

Joe Rogan 4:51 (laughs)

Bill Burr 4:51 ... at Nerd Melt, and I swear to God, it was like every three shows, um, he would tell this story about something that he did during his daily dad life of something that somebody did to him and what he did to get revenge.

Joe Rogan 5:04 (laughs)

Bill Burr 5:04 And, you know, and as he's telling it, he's not in the mind set, so he's like, "Okay, so they did this and, um, so I was like, 'Okay,' and then I went down and you..." And then you're just listening to this calculated, like...

Joe Rogan 5:15 (laughs)

Bill Burr 5:15 It made it more disturbing. It made it more disturbing.

Joe Rogan 5:17 Well, he used to have to fire people for his family's business.

Bill Burr 5:21 Right.

Joe Rogan 5:21 And I think he developed a hard shell when he had to learn how to do that.

Bill Burr 5:26 No, he has a, he has an incredible book in him on how to do that and then also how to, like, break up with women. The way he did it, like, it was just like... I, I, I don't... These are his stories, so-

Joe Rogan 5:37 Yeah.

Bill Burr 5:37 ... you, you gotta have him on.

Joe Rogan 5:38 Get outta here.

Bill Burr 5:39 Have him tell the story of how he, like, wh- how, the way he would end a relationship.

Joe Rogan 5:44 I haven't seen Alan forever.

Bill Burr 5:46 Yeah, no, it's, uh-

Joe Rogan 5:47 Is he doing comedy during this pandemic shit? What has he been doing?

Bill Burr 5:50 Uh, dude, I haven't seen anybody unless you were on the same parking lot show that I was on or, or, or whatever. Like, I- I've started, um, uh, the Magic Castle parking lot where they, they park everybody's cars is... That's a good one that I've been going.

Joe Rogan 6:03 They're doing shows there?

Bill Burr 6:04 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 6:04 Standup?

Bill Burr 6:05 Dude, they're actually funny as shit.

Joe Rogan 6:07 Really?

Bill Burr 6:07 The first night I went there, I bombed, like, I... It was my first five minutes-

Joe Rogan 6:11 (laughs)

Bill Burr 6:12 ... because my idea... 'Cause the standup thing is you don't understand, like, how you're just listening to the crowd.

Joe Rogan 6:18 Yeah.

Bill Burr 6:18 And they're, they're...... and you're like, f- you, you lock in where they're at, and then you start taking 'em where they're going, where you want 'em to go, right? And you get on a roll, and then that's when you can start, you know, get, start killing. They're in their cars, so it was like, it was... It felt like I was, like, deaf trying to do standup and trying to gauge how they were laughing. But what... The weirdest thing though is, just after one night, you adjust to it, and then your whole new idea of what killing sounds like. You're able to block out the traffic and the police helicopters. I'm not even joking that they're going up, 'cause it's right in Downtown Hollywood. And then it just becomes this crazy fun gig, and there's comics waiting to go on behind you. It's really this amazing thing where I'm, I kind of like, uh, feel like you're kinda going back to just the pure love of just going up there-

Joe Rogan 7:07 Yeah.

Bill Burr 7:07 ... trying shit out, making people laugh, supporting other comics.

Joe Rogan 7:10 People are adapting.

Bill Burr 7:11 Yeah. It's been, uh, it's been, uh, as, as crazy a year and so much bad stuff that's happened to so many people, that, that aspect of it has been fun. And, um, it kinda woke up all this, uh, muscle memory that I had as a comedian that I lost. 'Cause once you start selling tickets, you do get a little softer-

Joe Rogan 7:30 Yeah.

Bill Burr 7:30 ... because you get the, the, well, "Oh, it's this guy. We like this guy." Where before, I had to go back to, like, like, okay, I gotta get these people.

Joe Rogan 7:39 Yeah.

Bill Burr 7:39 I don't have to go on stage, and now, I, I, I have to avoid losing them, you know?

Joe Rogan 7:43 Joey Diaz started to get some popularity and when Joey Diaz started to get some popularity, one of the things he started doing is going to the dirtiest, dingiest open mics that he could find. Like, specifically.

Bill Burr 7:55 Right.

Joe Rogan 7:55 I go, "Why do you like doing that?" He goes, "Joe Rogan." He goes, "You can't forget your roots. You can't forget your roots, Joe Rogan!"

Bill Burr 8:01 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 8:01 And he would, he was like, he was serious about it. I could hear him, like take... I was on the phone with him, taking hits off the joint. "Joe Rogan, listen to me, these motherfuckers don't know. They don't know. They don't know what we went through. They don't know the fucking trenches. These fucking kids out here are soft."

Bill Burr 8:15 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 8:15 He goes, "They're talking to me, oh, I can't get up at The Comedy Store. I can't get up at The Comi... Bitch, I did 20 minutes in Alhambra. I drove down to a fucking Chinese restaurant and I did an open mic night in front of 15 people, and only 10 of 'em spoke English."

Bill Burr 8:29 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 8:30 And he would just do these gigs. He would do four a night.

Bill Burr 8:33 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 8:33 Like, I go, "What'd you do last night?" He goes, "I went down here, and then Felipe has a room. I went down, I did that, and then I did..." And he would do this on a regular basis. And he did it specifically because he felt like he had to be in motion.

Bill Burr 8:45 Right.

Joe Rogan 8:45 He goes, "I gotta, I gotta, I gotta go back to my roots."

Bill Burr 8:48 Yeah. Yeah. Well, I didn't do that. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 8:52 (laughs) Yeah, so I've done a few of those. That's why I used to like about Haha, the Haha Cafe.

Bill Burr 8:56 You know what? I kind of like... There was a, there was a point where I started to do those because The Comedy Store got so crazy. It was such, like, it was so, like, just on 10.

Joe Rogan 9:06 Yeah.

Bill Burr 9:06 And everybody was murdering everything. Like, even during the... Every night started feeling like Saturday night, like, uh, you know, I wanna go out, lean on the mic stand, try out some shit-

Joe Rogan 9:15 Yeah.

Bill Burr 9:15 ... feel out a story or something like that. Then I'm going on after, you know, these b- these beasts on the show, and it was like, oh man, I... So I started doing the Belly Room, and then, um, there was a, there was a really cool one on Fairfax that I was doing in this back room of this, like, uh, I wanna say Russian bar or something like that, that was great. It was fucking great. And I went there, and I felt that, that thing again where it was like, you know, um... I feel like I go, if I go to The Comedy Store, somebody knows who I am. If I go to that one, people, like, most of the people don't even know who I am. 'Cause you re-

Joe Rogan 9:45 Yeah.

Bill Burr 9:45 You start to forget, like, just how much shit there is out there to watch. And, and all you need is just, like, 1,200 people in each city to know who you are, and you could do, like, a theater.

Joe Rogan 9:56 Yeah.

Bill Burr 9:57 But, you know, you, you can have a very niche level thing. Like, I tried to explain that to somebody where they go, "Oh, you're selling this thing out so everybody knows who you are." It's like, no. It's like, there's people selling out Madison Square Garden that you've never... Bands you've never even fucking heard of, but there's, there's 20,000 people that know who they are. You know what I mean?

Joe Rogan 10:14 Yeah.

Bill Burr 10:14 So it's sort of tapping into that, trying to go to these places where, um, you could have that fun again of like, "Oh, you don't think I'm funny? Oh, you guys don't know, like-"

Joe Rogan 10:24 Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Bill Burr 10:24 "... that I know how to do this shit." And so then that also means you don't know how I joke around. So now I can have this fun of, of like, you don't know what my style is, so it can still be, like, surprising as opposed to, oh, now he's gonna do this, now he's gonna flip out, and then I'm gonna laugh and clap-

Joe Rogan 10:40 (laughs)

Bill Burr 10:40 ... and then he's gonna say goodnight. You know, you can kinda break out of that, which is, uh, is fun.

Joe Rogan 10:45 The worst thing that could happen to a comic, 'cause you get real soft because everybody loves you, and they go to see you, and they laugh at anything you say. That's one of the reasons why Steve Martin said he stopped touring-

Bill Burr 10:54 Right.

Joe Rogan 10:55 ... 'cause Steve Martin, when, uh, I was a kid, uh, Let's Get Small was out, and he would come out with the bunny ears on, and, like-

Bill Burr 11:02 Amazing.

Joe Rogan 11:02 ... play the banjo.

Bill Burr 11:03 Amazing.

Joe Rogan 11:03 Fuck, he was so good. These kids today, these motherfucking kids today, they don't know that-

Bill Burr 11:08 Yeah, they do.

Joe Rogan 11:08 ... Steve Martin was a monster.

Bill Burr 11:10 No, they don't know about that, but they know... They, they're doing hell rooms. Nobody just shows up at the comedy-

Joe Rogan 11:14 Oh, no, no, no. That's not what I mean.

Bill Burr 11:14 Oh, okay.

Joe Rogan 11:15 I mean they don't know how good Steve Martin was. Like, people forgot-

Bill Burr 11:18 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 11:18 ... when Steve Martin was doing arena... Well, he wasn't do... I don't know if he was doing arenas-

Bill Burr 11:20 No, he did. He did, like, Nassau Coliseum.

Joe Rogan 11:22 Oh, okay.

Bill Burr 11:22 He got that big.

Joe Rogan 11:24 But he was doing his albums, like, they were so silly and so fun and so different. Like, he had a... his own unique style, you know? And, uh, when he just felt like anything he did, they laughed at, and he lost track of whether or not it was good or not-

Bill Burr 11:41 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 11:41 ... and he just stopped doing it. And I, I remember thinking when I was first starting doing comedy, I can't imagine A, that that could ever happen, or B, that you can't... there's not a workaround, Steve? You're the fucking man.

Bill Burr 11:53 I think it really was he also had all these ideas for film and all the stuff that he did.

Joe Rogan 11:57 Yeah.

Bill Burr 11:58 Um, but, you know, it's kinda interesting, like, where he is... Where... What he used to say about, uh, like, that was such a serious time that he was coming out of, all, like, you know, the previous decade, all the assassinations, the Vietnam War-

Joe Rogan 12:12 Mm.

Bill Burr 12:12 ... the gas crisis and all that. And all these comics were talking about all this heavy shit, and he was just super silly. He'd take just-

Joe Rogan 12:19 Mm.

Bill Burr 12:20 It was like a mental break. Um-Somebody came to us, uh, with a, um, a pilot idea for something and it was over the top, like absurd and silly, and like that was my reference. I'm going, "Dude, this is like the Steve Martin bunny ear thing." Everybody's like going, "Well, Trump and, and the virus and..." And it's like this thing is just silly. There's, there's no Me Too, Cancel Culture, there's nothing in here. You can just sit down like that Dumb and Dumber type of thing, that-

Joe Rogan 12:45 Yeah, there he is.

Bill Burr 12:46 ... type of stuff that I love. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 12:46 Look at him. (laughs) Dude, I'm-

Bill Burr 12:49 I know.

Joe Rogan 12:49 ... telling you, people, people today, it's hard to appreciate how big he was. And I was a kid, right? So that when, when Steve Martin was huge, I mean, what year was this?

Narrator 13:00 Uh, the one thing is '84-

Bill Burr 13:01 Late 70s.

Narrator 13:02 ... but yeah, all this is probably before that too.

Joe Rogan 13:04 Yeah. Was he-

Bill Burr 13:05 Was he still doing comic, comedy in '84? I thought he-

Narrator 13:07 I found a video that said it was a standup performance from '84. So I thought-

Joe Rogan 13:10 Oh, that's probably right around the time when he stopped, but I thought he stopped before that. But when I was in high school was when Steve Martin was ju- Born Standing Up. He's got a great book too.

Bill Burr 13:21 That's the book, that's the book, Born Standing Up.

Joe Rogan 13:22 Yeah.

Bill Burr 13:22 You know what kills me is I loaned that to somebody.

Narrator 13:24 There you go. Gave it up in '81.

Bill Burr 13:25 I never got it back.

Joe Rogan 13:26 '81. So he gave it up when I was a freshman in high school. The book is great. Red Band gave me the book for, uh, Christmas one year. It's really good. It's, it's really interesting too because like I said, and I don't... I think when you talk about like great comics of all, all these generations, for whatever reason, people just think of him as a great movie star. They think The Jerk, which is an unbelievably funny movie.

Bill Burr 13:46 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 13:46 And all those amazing movies that he did.

Bill Burr 13:49 (laughs) Yeah.

Joe Rogan 13:49 Those were great movies.

Bill Burr 13:50 "He doesn't like these cans." (laughs)

Narrator 13:54 (laughs)

Bill Burr 13:54 So stupid.

Joe Rogan 13:54 He was so good. He was so silly.

Narrator 13:55 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 13:55 What was the mafia movie he played? What was that one? When he... The guy with the big hair.

Bill Burr 13:59 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And he goes into the supermarket and he just, he gets the price gun and everything's like 99 cents-

Joe Rogan 14:04 (laughs)

Bill Burr 14:04 ... and he's kinda standing there as he's scanning all this filet mignons and everything.

Joe Rogan 14:07 What was that? My Blue Heaven.

Bill Burr 14:08 My Blue Heaven.

Joe Rogan 14:09 Yeah. (laughs)

Bill Burr 14:10 Yeah, with Rick, Rick Moranis.

Joe Rogan 14:11 With Mick Moranis. That was a great fucking s- that bit that you did on Saturday Night Live about Rick Moranis getting punched in the face. I was fucking howling.

Bill Burr 14:17 You know, I thought that if anything, I thought because Everybody Loves Rick, which I do c- too of course, I was just, you know, it was the perfect-

Joe Rogan 14:23 Just a joke.

Bill Burr 14:24 Yeah, I thought that that was the one that was gonna get people upset.

Joe Rogan 14:27 (laughs)

Narrator 14:28 (laughs)

Bill Burr 14:28 This is like everybody loves Rick Moranis, who wants to see him get punched?

Joe Rogan 14:32 Well, it's, uh, he's a white man. You can punch a white man today and they have very little sympathy for it.

Bill Burr 14:38 Yeah, I, it was, I think it was because of the other shit that I, that I did.

Joe Rogan 14:40 Well, there was a lot. There's a lot going on.

Bill Burr 14:42 You know what was annoying is somebody was trying to say why that white woman joke worked really fucking annoyed me. It's like, "It works because he called himself out for being a toxic white male too." It's like, shut... it's not... that's not why it worked.

Joe Rogan 14:55 (laughs)

Bill Burr 14:55 It worked because it's true. And what I love about that bit, the second I'm going into it, people of color are already laughing.

Joe Rogan 15:01 Yeah.

Bill Burr 15:01 The part where I say toxic white male thing is to get the person who wrote that article to come along for the ride.

Joe Rogan 15:06 Yeah.

Bill Burr 15:07 And they, they th- uh, they, they yeah, yeah, you know why it worked.

Joe Rogan 15:10 Yeah.

Bill Burr 15:10 I don't know why it works. I'm the guy who fucking wrote it and I'm watching it-

Joe Rogan 15:13 (laughs)

Bill Burr 15:14 ... watching it work. But why don't you explain to me... The, the fucking arrogance of that is what... I mean, I, I listen to all this music. I would never sit there, "You know why that song works?"

Joe Rogan 15:26 But you, don't you think that it's also-

Bill Burr 15:26 "Because he, he uses this fucking chord to something." It's just...

Joe Rogan 15:29 But it's a popular culture moment and it's a timed... it's a, it's an opportunity to do commentary to make a, an article that you know is going to get a lot of clicks. Uh-

Bill Burr 15:39 It's a scam. Yeah, maybe I'm taking the bait. I don't know what it is, but it's just like, I don't mind, I like this, I don't like this.

Joe Rogan 15:45 Yeah.

Bill Burr 15:46 But, but don't fucking sit there and start, you know, I wouldn't tell a mechanic why the car he just fixed is fucking working, not knowing how to fix a car.

Joe Rogan 15:53 A lot of what's going on today with commentary is disingenuous in that it's not necessarily what they really think, but it's what they think will get a reaction from the people that align with their ideology.

Bill Burr 16:05 I found the solution to it.

Joe Rogan 16:07 What is it?

Bill Burr 16:07 The solution. I just, I, I don't pay attention, even though I did read that.

Joe Rogan 16:11 (laughs)

Bill Burr 16:11 That's why, that's why I don't. I waited a month before I read anything, and the first thing I read... My wife just hears me upstairs, "Oh, what the fu- You don't write a fucking thing." She goes, "Stop reading that stuff." I'm like, "You're right. You're right." (laughs)

Joe Rogan 16:23 (laughs)

Narrator 16:25 (laughs)

Bill Burr 16:25 I, uh, I just, I exist now, but I live in a different time.

Joe Rogan 16:30 Yeah.

Bill Burr 16:30 Including like movies, cars, everything that I look at, like I'm just right now I'm on a, I'm on a, uh, uh, I'm watching just car movies from the 1970s.

Joe Rogan 16:39 Ah.

Bill Burr 16:40 And I'm having... Oh, dude, I gotta get this clip for you, one of the great-

Joe Rogan 16:43 What's that fucking mo- Point Blank... What's that movie with the Challenger? Because of-

Bill Burr 16:46 Point, uh, oh...

Joe Rogan 16:47 That famous movie with the 1970-

Bill Burr 16:49 Vanishing Point.

Joe Rogan 16:50 Vanishing Point.

Bill Burr 16:50 I almost said Point of Entry, which is a-

Joe Rogan 16:52 Yeah.

Bill Burr 16:52 ... Judas Priest album. I watched, uh, I got a clip for you guys. I don't know if I can sh- If you guys can find this.

Joe Rogan 16:57 You can send it to Jamie.

Bill Burr 16:58 Oh, I can send it to you?

Narrator 16:59 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Bill Burr 16:59 All right, this is like... Mi- as far as like bad '70s lines that an actor had to deliver, uh, my, one of my favorites of all time was that movie Over The Edge with the young Matt Dillon, Matt Dillon. It's a fucking amazing movie. It's about like, uh, these kids that, you know, um, back when, when, when families, when mo- white families were moving out of the, the, the, uh, the, the crime infested cities and they were starting these, these, um, whatever, these suburban things, and, uh, but all the kids were doing drugs and all that shit. It's basically about stuff like that. So the kids end up being these crazy white kids and they take over the school and, uh, at one point they lock all the parents because they had this big meeting about the kids and the kids snuck, snuck in and they locked them all in like the little, uh, auditorium. And, uh, as they're vandalizing the school, one of the cops is trying to get out and this chick runs by with a giant globe and she sees the cop and she stops and she just goes, "Eat it, you stinking pig." (laughs)

Joe Rogan 17:52 (laughs)

Narrator 17:52 (laughs)

Bill Burr 17:52 I fucking lost it. It's just like, it's like who the fuck writes shit like that? So I was watching a movie called The Car, which is sort of Carrie, and, uh-

Joe Rogan 18:03 It's the same deal?

Bill Burr 18:04 Yeah. I'll, I'll send it to you.

Joe Rogan 18:06 Here it is.

Bill Burr 18:06 Oh, there it is. Oh God. You gotta, you gotta have-

Joe Rogan 18:08 (laughs)

Bill Burr 18:08 You gotta... (wheezes)

Joe Rogan 18:09 Give me some volume.

Bill Burr 18:10 You gotta get me some.

Joe Rogan 18:10 Give me some volume in that.

Bill Burr 18:13 Oh, shit.

Narrator 18:16 Eat it. You stinking pig.

Joe Rogan 18:20 (laughs)

Narrator 18:23 (laughs)

Bill Burr 18:23 (laughs) Dude, I just sit there and rewind that-

Joe Rogan 18:25 Uh-huh. Uh-huh.

Bill Burr 18:25 ... and I just laugh my ass off. I ca- I can't find... Dude, I'm the worst with this shit.No, 'cause it's such a specific... I'm on this text-

Joe Rogan 18:35 There's so many good car movies. I mean, uh, Bullitt with Steve McQueen, that's the ultimate car movie.

Bill Burr 18:41 Oh, those... Yeah, those are, like, the good ones.

Joe Rogan 18:43 Oh my God.

Bill Burr 18:43 Those are the... Those are the good ones. But I, I'm, I'm going... I just watched Burt Reynolds, uh, White Lightning, who, Ned Beatty is fucking amazing in that one.

Joe Rogan 18:51 What is White Lightning?

Bill Burr 18:52 White-

Joe Rogan 18:53 Is that-

Bill Burr 18:53 White Lightning-

Joe Rogan 18:54 Is that Moonshine?

Bill Burr 18:54 You know, Mo- Moonshine, yeah. So it's, uh, it's about a guy. It's about a corrupt cop. Burt Reynolds is in jail.

Joe Rogan 19:00 There he is, look at him.

Bill Burr 19:01 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 19:02 Burt fucking Reynolds.

Bill Burr 19:03 Yeah, he lies that he's gonna try to help get the moonshiners, but he really wants to go out and get revenge on the cop that, uh, did something bad to one of his family members. Played by-

Joe Rogan 19:11 This-

Bill Burr 19:11 Played by Ned Beatty. It takes place in, uh, Arkansas. He's got a, uh, a four-door, uh... What has he got? Uh, it's a four-

Joe Rogan 19:20 Is it a Ford Torino?

Bill Burr 19:20 ... four-d, four-d... No, Ford Galaxy 500.

Joe Rogan 19:22 Look at that big tooth. (laughs)

Bill Burr 19:24 Yeah. (laughs) Du-

Joe Rogan 19:27 (laughs)

Bill Burr 19:27 For some reason, my, my Goddamn photos aren't, aren't, mm, loading.

Joe Rogan 19:32 There's a sad episode of, uh, Fast and Loose, uh, or Fast and Loud rather, um, Rich Rollins.

Bill Burr 19:40 Uh-huh.

Joe Rogan 19:40 Uh, where they, uh, they go to Burt Reynolds to get him to sign a Trans Am. And-

Bill Burr 19:46 Oh, I saw that.

Joe Rogan 19:47 Uh, and he could barely walk. He's like-

Bill Burr 19:49 Well, 'cause he played football at Florida State and then he also-

Joe Rogan 19:52 Mm-hmm.

Bill Burr 19:52 ... did, like, all of his own stunts. And then, you know, people didn't know how to repair knees and shit like that.

Joe Rogan 19:56 No. No.

Bill Burr 19:57 Oh God, here it is.

Joe Rogan 19:58 There he is.

Bill Burr 19:58 How... Okay, how do I, how do I send this?

Joe Rogan 20:00 Uh, you can do an AirDrop.

Bill Burr 20:02 Just, just, just... I don't know how to do that.

Joe Rogan 20:03 All right. (laughs) Yeah, there's Burt Reynolds right there.

Bill Burr 20:10 Oh, yeah. No, it's, it's just, it's just a classic B- Burt Reynolds movie. And he worked a lot with, like, Ned Beatty, who's just one of the great character actors of all time. So I've just been, like, either watching show like that or, like, you know, The Friends of Eddie Coyle, watching, like, really good movies from then-

Joe Rogan 20:25 Mm-hmm.

Bill Burr 20:25 ... and then just watching like crazy shit. I just watch that and I have a good time. Rather than going on, like, social media and shit like that, I've been, you know, watching all these French movies and shit.

Joe Rogan 20:34 Yeah.

Bill Burr 20:34 And just like, um...

Joe Rogan 20:37 No, it's, it's ba- bad for you.

Bill Burr 20:38 All right, here you go. Here you go.

Joe Rogan 20:39 Here you go.

Bill Burr 20:39 This is, this is this woman yelling at this car. It's another great clip from the 1970s.

Narrator 20:47 (sirens blaring) (engine revving) Cat poo.

Joe Rogan 21:01 (laughs) What? A tadpole? Is it called-

Bill Burr 21:03 No, cat poo.

Joe Rogan 21:04 Cat poo? That's what she's saying?

Bill Burr 21:06 Yeah.

Narrator 21:07 (sirens blaring) Cat poo.

Joe Rogan 21:09 (laughs) You cat poo? Oh my God.

Bill Burr 21:12 I don't know why that's, that made the movie.

Joe Rogan 21:14 Why is that so funny for you?

Bill Burr 21:16 'Cause it's so bad.

Joe Rogan 21:18 (laughs)

Bill Burr 21:18 The acting in this movie is so fucking bad. In the beginning, the car is, like, runs over two people on ten-speed bikes and the acting and just that in the beginning, it's-

Joe Rogan 21:28 So that's a bad car, that's like a evil car?

Bill Burr 21:30 Yeah, there's, like, nobody in it. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 21:37 (laughs)

Bill Burr 21:37 It's a '71 Lincoln Mark III, IV, V, I don't know what it is and it's just... And the funny thing is, is it's terrorizing this little ass town and it's kill- I can't... I, I, I lost track of how many cops die in this little town. And they never ask for help at the state level.

Joe Rogan 21:54 (laughs)

Bill Burr 21:54 They never call in the army. They figure out nobody's driving this fucking car and nobody, nobody tries to go, "You know, I think this problem is a little bigger than our little town here." (laughs)

Joe Rogan 22:05 (laughs) Did you ever see Jeepers Creepers?

Bill Burr 22:08 No, but that has that great truck in it, the-

Joe Rogan 22:10 Yeah.

Bill Burr 22:10 ... cab over engine, right?

Joe Rogan 22:11 It's like a demon driving a truck.

Bill Burr 22:13 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 22:14 Jeep- Jeepers Creepers is a f- underrated fun horror movie.

Bill Burr 22:17 But there's a lot of those movies where there's-

Joe Rogan 22:18 Why are you laughing? 'Cause you s- you said that last time, it's not good. I said what last time? That this movie was good. It's underrated. Okay. What the fuck, Jamie?

Bill Burr 22:27 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 22:27 Just saying.

Bill Burr 22:28 No, there's a lot of these, uh-

Joe Rogan 22:29 I enjoy it. Can I enjoy something that you don't enjoy? Is that okay?

Bill Burr 22:33 Yeah, so I kind of been doing, like-

Joe Rogan 22:35 (laughs) Fair. (laughs)

Bill Burr 22:37 So White Lightning led to the next movie, uh, he- g- Reynolds played a character called Gator and then the next-

Joe Rogan 22:43 Oh, I remember that.

Bill Burr 22:43 And then the next movie is called Gator. But you just watch it and the way that women are treated-

Joe Rogan 22:48 Oh, it's awful.

Bill Burr 22:48 It just... Uh, dude, it's fucking... Yeah, it's, it's-

Joe Rogan 22:50 We were talking about Close, not Close Encounters, Poltergeist.

Bill Burr 22:53 Uh-huh.

Joe Rogan 22:53 We, we watched, uh, Poltergeist with the family and there's a scene in Poltergeist where these construction workers are, uh, sexually harassing this guy's 16-year-old daughter and the wife is laughing. She's looking through the window as the construction workers on her property are going, "Hey, I love you." And they're, like, looking at her through, like, a cone and shit. And, and she goes like this, "Fuck off" to them and the wo- the wa- the mom was like, " (laughs) "

Bill Burr 23:19 Yeah, 'cause she raised her right, 'cause she knew that she could handle-

Joe Rogan 23:22 Yeah, but if you were-

Bill Burr 23:22 ... that's nuts.

Joe Rogan 23:23 If that was today-

Bill Burr 23:24 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 23:24 ... in a film, you'd be like, "What the fuck kind of monsters are they?" And what's wrong with that mom? That mom is an enabler, like, she's gonna-

Bill Burr 23:30 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 23:30 That girl is gonna grow up to be fucked up.

Bill Burr 23:32 Yeah, you know, we continue to grow as people. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 23:34 Yes, but it's not that long ago, that's what's crazy. Hey, pull up Jeepers Creepers, show me a clip.

Bill Burr 23:39 Dude, Poltergeist was almost-

Joe Rogan 23:40 It's great.

Bill Burr 23:40 Hey, Poltergeist was almost 40 years ago. It was a long time ago.

Joe Rogan 23:43 Yeah, I guess so. But it's amazing how much things change in 40 years, because-

Bill Burr 23:47 Well, just put yourself in 1981-

Joe Rogan 23:49 It's Jeepers Creepers.

Bill Burr 23:50 ... and that's like looking back to 1941.

Joe Rogan 23:53 So these guys are driving. Hey.

Bill Burr 23:55 That's Justin Long. Get the fuck out of here.

Joe Rogan 23:57 It's the dude from the Mac commercial. The first movie. Yeah, he's the Mac. Remember, the other guy's the PC? That's him. Look at this fucking evil truck-

Bill Burr 24:04 Dude, he's like-

Joe Rogan 24:04 ... with the blacked out windows. Get away from me.

Bill Burr 24:07 He's the voice of Kevin on F is for Family. He's crazy.

Joe Rogan 24:09 Oh, is he?

Bill Burr 24:10 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 24:10 Oh, that's hilarious.

Bill Burr 24:11 Dude, he's one of the best mimics I've ever... He can imitate anybody. He's fucking hilarious. He's hilarious. This is it. This is like them doing their open mics. They get in these early films.

Joe Rogan 24:21 Yeah.

Bill Burr 24:22 These slasher things.

Joe Rogan 24:24 2001. 19 years ago. Crazy. Good film, Jamie. It's a good film. Okay. Well made. Sure. Scary. (laughs)

Bill Burr 24:35 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 24:35 (laughs) There's some movies that I wa- I liked when I was a kid that I watch now and I was like, "Oh my God, what was wrong with me?"

Bill Burr 24:42 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 24:42 But you didn't know. You didn't know.

Bill Burr 24:44 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 24:44 You thought things were good.

Bill Burr 24:45 ... but-

Joe Rogan 24:46 There's a lot of those.

Bill Burr 24:47 But that's a good way, I've found, just mentally to get out of like the-

Joe Rogan 24:51 Yeah.

Bill Burr 24:51 ... the- the eddy.

Joe Rogan 24:52 Yeah.

Bill Burr 24:52 'Cause as a comedian, you have to be on social media, I gue-... I mean, I- I don't know a way not to be, and it's just, like, impossible, like, to not... Like I am so fucking ridiculously addicted to my phone. Like the amount of times that I set it down, going like, "Enough with that shit," and then I'll just sit there, and then five seconds later, I'm just picking it up. And, like, you know what it is? Is it's also like I watch... When... Even when I'm watching TV, I'll be like, "Oh, look at this old movie. I wonder if that guy's still alive."

Joe Rogan 25:17 Right, and then you start Googling.

Bill Burr 25:17 And I start looking. Oh, he died. What did he die of? "Oh, you know, 82. You know, that's not bad," you know? Just-

Joe Rogan 25:24 "Let's see if someone's talking shit about me." (laughs)

Bill Burr 25:25 Yeah. "Well, let's..." No. It's... I don't do that. I go, "Let's see what these..." Uh, I don't know.

Joe Rogan 25:31 Hm. Social media's bad. I mean, it's good and it's bad, right? But the bad part is you can, uh, get lost in other people's opinions and want to defend yourself. And then, you know, people misrepresent what you said or distort what you said or take it out of context-

Bill Burr 25:46 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 25:46 ... and then you're like, "Hey." And then you think-

Bill Burr 25:48 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 25:48 ... "Well, how many people are reading that and thinking the wrong thing about me and ugh."

Bill Burr 25:52 No.

Joe Rogan 25:52 It's just-

Bill Burr 25:53 I never respond to it.

Joe Rogan 25:54 I don't either.

Bill Burr 25:54 I just, I just flip up.

Joe Rogan 25:55 I would... I do what I call-

Bill Burr 25:56 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 25:57 ... post and ghost. When I make a post, I make a post, and then I put my phone away, and I walk out of the room. I l- I leave my phone-

Bill Burr 26:04 Oh.

Joe Rogan 26:04 ... in other rooms.

Bill Burr 26:05 I thought you were gonna say you write what you want to say and then you delete it, and I'd be like-

Joe Rogan 26:07 No.

Bill Burr 26:07 ... I'd be too nervous you accidentally-

Joe Rogan 26:09 No. No.

Bill Burr 26:09 ... hit send.

Joe Rogan 26:10 I make a post, and then I go away.

Bill Burr 26:12 Right.

Joe Rogan 26:12 Like I don't look at what people are saying about the post. I just get the fuck out of there. It's just... It, it, it never is a good use of time. There's so-

Bill Burr 26:20 Right.

Joe Rogan 26:20 ... many things that I like to do, and that's one thing that saves me, is that I have so many obsessions.

Bill Burr 26:25 Right.

Joe Rogan 26:25 Is that I... There's so many things I like to do that the... But, but the phone will get me if I'm not... If... Uh, you know what will get me? Fucking YouTube and, and not watching nothing. It'll be an hour-

Bill Burr 26:36 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 26:36 ... I'll watch a, a, a video on how they make watches, and then I'll watch, uh, three or four pool matches, and then I'll watch a, oh, 1970 Chevelle. Oh, how'd they make that? And then I'll-

Bill Burr 26:46 You know what I hate though about all of those? Is it... Once you click on one thing, then they just give you 40 of the same thing.

Joe Rogan 26:51 Yeah.

Bill Burr 26:52 It's like they don't... It's almost like they don't want you to progress, is like, um... Like I have... Like at some of, uh... Like on my watch... I t- I think I told this story last time I was on here. Like on Netflix I watched all of Narcos.

Joe Rogan 27:04 Yeah.

Bill Burr 27:04 And then everything became, like, behind the scenes of San Quentin and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. So I've been trying to watch these French movies, right? But for some reason it won't... Because I think I'm here, they keep giving me, like, the English-speaking ones. It's like that's not what I'm trying to do here. I'm trying to watch their shit. Like, how do I get out of this?

Joe Rogan 27:22 Hm.

Bill Burr 27:22 They keep, kinda keep dragging you back down to, uh ...

Joe Rogan 27:25 T- well, they find what you're inter-... I mean, the algorithm's pretty simple. I mean, it's not simple. It's complicated, but it's a simple formula in terms of, like, how it applies. Whatever you're interested in, it's gonna show you. Whatever you're gonna spend the most time looking at, it's gonna show you. Whether it's things you hate, like YouTube or Facebook-

Bill Burr 27:40 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 27:40 ... that accentuates things that give you the m-... It turn-... It's... It turns out it's really just what you're responding to and spending time on.

Bill Burr 27:48 Right.

Joe Rogan 27:48 Like Ari did an experiment. Ari's experiment was he only looked up puppies on YouTube. That's it, just puppies. And then all YouTube was showing him was puppies.

Bill Burr 27:57 Right.

Joe Rogan 27:57 And he was trying to tell people, "Look, this isn't Insidious. It's not like the man's trying to keep you angry."

Bill Burr 28:02 Right.

Joe Rogan 28:02 "It's like you're keeping yourself angry. If you just go and look at puppies all day, that's all it's gonna show you."

Bill Burr 28:08 I don't know.

Joe Rogan 28:10 (laughs)

Bill Burr 28:10 I, I, I feel like if I look at one puppy video, then they give me f-... a bunch more.

Joe Rogan 28:15 Hm.

Bill Burr 28:16 And it's just like, okay, maybe I've moved past puppies at this point.

Joe Rogan 28:19 Yeah, but that's up to you, you yourself. You have to search for things that aren't puppy-related.

Bill Burr 28:24 I know, but it's just easier just to click on what they're giving me.

Joe Rogan 28:28 (laughs) Of course. Of course it is.

Bill Burr 28:28 Where they just, oh, more puppy videos.

Joe Rogan 28:29 (laughs)

Bill Burr 28:29 This is my safe space.

Joe Rogan 28:31 Yeah.

Bill Burr 28:31 And, uh... Dude, I saw two really good French movies. I saw this one called Lost Bullet, and then I saw one called Blood and Earth.

Joe Rogan 28:37 I heard of Lost Bullet.

Bill Burr 28:38 Lost-

Joe Rogan 28:38 What is that?

Bill Burr 28:39 Lost Bullet is, um... I'd say it's sort of a Jason Statham-style movie, like action-

Joe Rogan 28:45 Oh.

Bill Burr 28:46 ... movie, lot of cars, lot of people getting shot, you know?

Joe Rogan 28:49 Nice.

Bill Burr 28:50 Dumb shit that I watch, but it's done really well. It's done... Shot really well. There's a really great shot in it where a dude kills somebody 'cause the boss told him to and he didn't feel good about it, and how they got his reaction. He, he bludgeons him to death with this... The butt of this rifle, and the shot that they used was the, the reflection of the guy's face in the pool of blood, of the guy-

Joe Rogan 29:13 Whoa.

Bill Burr 29:13 ... he killed. Yeah. It was just like, oh man, that's the fucking... That, that right there was worth watching this whole movie, just to see that shot. Yeah, it was really cool.

Joe Rogan 29:21 Yeah, getting involved in, in films or an- anything that's outside of the, the shit that you're getting twisted up in your head is always good for you, because it just makes you realize, like, there's people out there doing a lot of things. They're making cool things.

Bill Burr 29:36 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 29:36 You know? Like and you, you get lost on social media or in the... You know, lost in arguing about things-

Bill Burr 29:42 Yeah, I feel-

Joe Rogan 29:42 ... you don't like.

Bill Burr 29:42 ... like I'm in The Truman Show here. So I'm just getting the American version of, of movies. I'm getting-

Joe Rogan 29:47 Mm-hmm.

Bill Burr 29:47 ... the American version of news, and everybody's yelling at each other, and it's just like I'm trying to poke a hole in, like, the tent to try just, just get something else coming in, because I, I can't, uh... Yeah, it's just, uh, you know.

Joe Rogan 30:00 There's a great Russian horror movie called Sputnik, and it's, uh, a film that's all... It's all in subtitles, but it's basically, like, their version of the movie Alien. It's fucking good.

Bill Burr 30:12 Oh, really?

Joe Rogan 30:12 Yeah, it's good.

Bill Burr 30:13 Oh, okay.

Joe Rogan 30:14 I tried to watch it with my kid, and she was like, "I'm not reading while I watch a movie." I'm like, "Damn, that is my kid." (laughs)

Bill Burr 30:19 I watch them... I watch them in French with French subtitles.

Joe Rogan 30:22 Yeah.

Bill Burr 30:23 I just watch the whole thing, try to figure out what they're talking about.

Joe Rogan 30:25 Oh, really?

Bill Burr 30:26 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 30:27 Yeah, this is Sputnik. It's fucking good, man. It's a Russian film, which I... You know, I'm, I'm not really aware of too many Russian films, but it's very good. And, uh, the scenes... Like the, the horror scenes are fucking spectacular, man.

Bill Burr 30:40 Yeah, I think this is what I'm gonna be watching from, like, now. Like, uh, I, I signed up on a couple of different sites and shit. Like YouTube's really cool. You can rent, like, movies for, like, four or five bucks.

Joe Rogan 30:50 Yeah.

Bill Burr 30:50 And they'll have, like, really obscure shit. If it's not on, like, Netflix, I'm like, "All right." Like White Lightning , I forget where I had to go. I signed up for something then I got a three... a free, like, 30-day month thing, so it's like I'm gonna burn through some of these older Burt Reynolds movies.... you know, see if I-

Joe Rogan 31:04 Well, you know what you could do for foreign films? Get a ExpressVPN and, uh, any, any kind of VPN, virtual private net- um, network, will allow you to say you're in another country.

Bill Burr 31:14 Dude, they advertise my podcasts. I've been, we, we, we do like the podcast part of my stuff, like I should do that with my personal stuff.

Joe Rogan 31:20 Yeah. You should. It's great. So like-

Bill Burr 31:23 Oh, dude, I got one for you.

Joe Rogan 31:24 ... you sign up for, just say you're in France, it'll show you all these French movies that maybe you would have never have access to on, on Netflix.

Bill Burr 31:30 Right.

Joe Rogan 31:31 And maybe you'll, you know, if you watch one, it'll recommend some other ones that are similar to it in the algorithm.

Bill Burr 31:36 Dude, I got one for you, I fucking forget the name of it though. It's on the Criterion Channel. And it's this black and white, uh, I took a picture of it. It's on my phone. I can not, I can't remember shit, so I just take pictures of shit. Um, it was, uh, it's, it's, basically it's a guy doing a standup set, and he's having a bad set. And it's in black and white and it's like animated, and it's fucking wild. It's like really, like I never took mushrooms, but it felt like, "Wow, this must be like when you're starting to trip, what it starts to feel like."

Joe Rogan 32:08 Mm-hmm.

Bill Burr 32:08 And like they were doing this thing, like, uh, as he was starting to like lose some people in the crowd, like their faces would just go dark. So I was thinking like, "He's turned them off. Does that mean like he shut off, like they, they're not into him anymore?" There's a lot of fucking layers to it. It's really, it's oddly disturbing.

Joe Rogan 32:25 What's it called?

Bill Burr 32:26 I don't know. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 32:28 Jamie'll find it.

Bill Burr 32:28 I keep doing this shit.

Joe Rogan 32:29 Jamie'll find it.

Narrator 32:30 Yeah. I know.

Bill Burr 32:30 No, I took a picture of it, so.

Joe Rogan 32:32 He'll find it while he's switching cameras.

Bill Burr 32:34 Okay.

Narrator 32:35 I was close. It's said that there's something called The Standup Guys.

Bill Burr 32:38 Yes.

Narrator 32:39 It's not coming up when I'm trying to find it though.

Bill Burr 32:41 Standup Guy, that's what it is. Yeah.

Narrator 32:42 Like it, the, the, the G- Google shows it, but when I click that it says, "Nothing found on that, on Criteria-"

Bill Burr 32:47 Yeah.

Narrator 32:47 ... or something.

Bill Burr 32:47 'Cause I looked, 'cause, um, they had the, uh, the, um, Dustin Hoffman movie, uh, when he played Lenny Bruce.

Joe Rogan 32:53 What is the-

Bill Burr 32:54 Right there.

Joe Rogan 32:54 Oh, right there.

Bill Burr 32:54 That's it.

Joe Rogan 32:55 Right there.

Bill Burr 32:55 That's it.

Joe Rogan 32:56 Wow.

Bill Burr 32:57 No, not Lenny Bruce.

Joe Rogan 32:58 Not Lenny Bruce.

Bill Burr 32:58 So The Standups, Standups.

Joe Rogan 32:59 Standup Guys.

Bill Burr 33:00 Standup Guy.

Joe Rogan 33:00 Wow.

Bill Burr 33:01 Yeah, dude, that thing is-

Joe Rogan 33:02 Oh, that's another one. This it? The Standup Guys with Al Pacino?

Bill Burr 33:04 I was in that, I was in that movie right there.

Joe Rogan 33:06 Were you really?

Bill Burr 33:06 Standup Guys.

Joe Rogan 33:08 With Al Pacino and-

Bill Burr 33:09 I got a f- I got a funny story about... Yeah.

Joe Rogan 33:10 No shit? What is that? I never heard of that movie.

Bill Burr 33:14 Yeah. Um, uh, Fisher Stevens directed it.

Joe Rogan 33:17 What's it, what is that movie about?

Bill Burr 33:18 Got some up-and-coming actors in it, like, uh, Alan Arkin, Al Pacino, Christopher Walken. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 33:24 (laughs) How long ago was this?

Bill Burr 33:25 Oh, dude, I got a funny story about that. Uh, it was like, I don't know, I can't remember. But like a couple years ago my dad called me up. He's like, "Yeah," he goes, uh, you know, I said hello. And he goes, "Yeah. Hey, Bill, it's your dad." I'm like, "Yeah, what's going on?" He goes, "Christy, I gotta tell you. Now the other night, you know, I, I fell asleep on the couch and I know you told me to stop doing that 'cause, you know, I've hurt my back, but, you know, it's my house."

Joe Rogan 33:48 (laughs)

Bill Burr 33:48 "So I fell asleep on the couch," he goes-

Joe Rogan 33:50 That was you. (laughs)

Bill Burr 33:52 (laughs) He goes, yeah, yeah. He goes, he goes, "You know, the TV was on. I wake up and I see, I see Al Pacino. I'm like, 'Oh, I never seen this movie.' And I'm sitting there and I'm watching it and I'm like, 'Jesus Christ, there's Bill.'"

Joe Rogan 34:04 (laughs)

Bill Burr 34:05 He goes, "So I wake up your mother and I'm like, 'Christ, look at Bill. He's in a movie with Al Pacino.'" And he goes, uh, he goes, "When, when, when did you shoot that?" I go, "Dad, it was like eight years ago."

Joe Rogan 34:14 (laughs)

Bill Burr 34:15 (laughs) Which is, it just shows you like how much shit is out there that if you're in a movie with Al Pacino e- even your parents don't see it until like fucking eight years later. So he's like, "Yeah, Christ-"

Joe Rogan 34:24 Well, we've talked about this in the podcast.

Bill Burr 34:26 "... yeah, Christ, I'm-" It's a really good movie.

Joe Rogan 34:27 They don't stop making movies. So all the old movies are still available.

Bill Burr 34:31 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 34:31 And they make new ones every day.

Bill Burr 34:32 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 34:32 They're making movies right now. And they pile up. Like the amount of data that's out there in terms of like things that you could watch, just the sheer volume, terabytes of movies that are available. It never stops. It just keeps piling up.

Bill Burr 34:45 Dude, and-

Joe Rogan 34:46 And it doesn't just come from America. It's coming from all over the world.

Bill Burr 34:48 Yeah, and they have hacks over there too 'cause I saw one they were doing th- one of those switcheroo movies. Like you're like, "Uh, I could be a woman."

Joe Rogan 34:55 Oh.

Bill Burr 34:55 "That's, that's fucking easy." And then the next day, "Wh- what's going on?" Right?

Joe Rogan 34:58 Freaky Friday, that kind of shit? Yeah.

Bill Burr 34:59 One of those shit. Yeah, it was a French one. And it was really fucking bizarre. I just, I saw the trailer. I'm like, "I'm not fucking watching this shit." (laughs)

Joe Rogan 35:07 (laughs)

Bill Burr 35:07 And they went a little further. It was sort of like a misogynistic dude. And then he was a chick but still looked like a dude. And then he was hooking up with chicks, and they were on top of him grabbing his throat and shit. And I'm like, "What the fuck? I ain't watching this." But-

Joe Rogan 35:19 (laughs)

Bill Burr 35:19 But then I was also thinking like, "Oh, they used this f- this same sort of like, uh, switcheroo movie over here too." So...

Joe Rogan 35:27 Well, it's a classic, right? This is, they've been doing those switcheroo movies... When was the last, when was the first one of those switcheroo movies? It was like Jamie Lee Curtis and her daughter, right?

Bill Burr 35:35 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 35:35 Wasn't, was that the first one? Or no.

Bill Burr 35:37 It's a really good one, the really-

Joe Rogan 35:38 No, Jamie?

Narrator 35:39 That's good.

Joe Rogan 35:39 Yeah.

Bill Burr 35:39 There's one that's out right now that looks really funny though, 'cause-

Joe Rogan 35:41 What?

Narrator 35:42 Yeah, Vince Vaughn's in one right now.

Bill Burr 35:43 Vince Vaughn did one-

Joe Rogan 35:43 Yes.

Bill Burr 35:44 ... where he switches with like a serial killer.

Joe Rogan 35:46 Really?

Bill Burr 35:46 Or something. Yeah, or something-

Joe Rogan 35:47 I thought he switched with his daughter.

Bill Burr 35:48 Yeah, but there's some serial killer thing invol-

Joe Rogan 35:50 Oh.

Bill Burr 35:50 ... ven. I've been like on the road, so.

Joe Rogan 35:51 That's a new one?

Bill Burr 35:52 Yeah. I gotta watch that one. I heard it's fucking great.

Narrator 35:54 There's one from the '70s.

Bill Burr 35:55 Okay, that was the first one.

Joe Rogan 35:57 Freaky Friday.

Narrator 35:57 ... Jodie Foster.

Joe Rogan 35:57 Yeah, Freaky Friday.

Narrator 35:58 But from the '70s. Not with, uh, Jamie Lee.

Joe Rogan 36:01 Oh. Who is, uh, the original one? Who's in that?

Narrator 36:04 Jodie Foster.

Joe Rogan 36:04 Jodie Foster.

Bill Burr 36:06 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 36:06 Wow. No sh- that's the original Freaky Friday? So the Jamie Lee Curtis was a, a copy of that?

Bill Burr 36:13 Dude, that poster, that just takes me back to my childhood.

Joe Rogan 36:15 God. That's crazy. Oh, there's three of them.

Narrator 36:19 And they just remake it every 10, 10, 10 years. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 36:21 (laughs) What, so these kids forget. You know what else they remake a lot? The Thing. They've remade The Thing at least three times.

Bill Burr 36:29 The Thing was the shit when the first one that came out when-

Joe Rogan 36:32 Oh. Well, the first one-

Bill Burr 36:32 ... Cinemax or HB, Cinemax or HBO.

Joe Rogan 36:33 The first one's terrible. And then there's the John Carpenter The Thing, which was really good. That was a remake of the first one.

Bill Burr 36:41 Oh, it was. Okay.

Joe Rogan 36:41 The first one was a 1950s one that looks like it was shot in an office.

Bill Burr 36:44 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 36:44 It's like... (laughs)

Bill Burr 36:46 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 36:46 It looks like somebody had a old school VHS camera and they shot it in an office with people that don't really act.

Bill Burr 36:52 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 36:52 I mean, it's terrible. Like see if you can find a clip from it. That you wanna talk about evolution of culture, the best way to see it is to watch old films. Just the way they used to act back then.

Bill Burr 37:02 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 37:02 It didn't make any sense.

Bill Burr 37:04 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 37:04 The way they talked.... like, 'cause th- they were theater people that were used to projecting with just their voice to a whole room full of people. And then they conver- no, this is John Carpenter's. No, no, no.

Bill Burr 37:14 Yeah, that one was the shit.

Joe Rogan 37:15 This is, this is the second one. That's the '92 one. 82? Well, excuse me, 82 one. Yeah, I was in, I was in high school. That was great though.

Bill Burr 37:22 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 37:22 But there was one before that was, like, from the 1950s and that one is, uh, very strange and, like, you don't really get a good look at the monster. They did a good job back then of, like, kinda hiding how crappy their special effects were. The Thing From Another World. That actually was the full name. Oh, okay. But yeah. So the John Carpenter version, they just, they shorten it. But this is- Right at the start. Give me some volume. You can hear how they talk.

Narrator 37:44 Those hands and those eyes. We've got to do something about it, you guys. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 37:49 (laughs)

Narrator 37:50 Human or inhuman? Earthly or unearthly? Baffling questions, astounding questions that not even the world's greatest scientific minds can answer.

Joe Rogan 38:01 (laughs)

Narrator 38:01 Do you realize what we've found? A being from another world as different from us as one pole from the other. If we can only communicate with it.

Bill Burr 38:11 How did this guy make it past the table refills?

Joe Rogan 38:13 They had nobody. They just find people.

Bill Burr 38:15 I just love how back then, any time you got a little hysterical, it's just somebody would throw something at you.

Joe Rogan 38:21 (laughs)

Bill Burr 38:21 They'd slap you. For Christ's sake, get a hold of yourself. There was, like, no-

Joe Rogan 38:27 Smelling salts. (laughs)

Bill Burr 38:28 ... understanding. If you, if you were upset, somebody hit you-

Joe Rogan 38:33 (laughs)

Bill Burr 38:33 ... to make you feel better.

Joe Rogan 38:34 Yes.

Bill Burr 38:34 Like, you were supposed to, like, yeah, snap out of it. Hey, you got a little crazy there. Like, that guy is literally talking about this fucking thing that's gonna kill all of him. This guy takes a... Another man takes a full cup of water and throws it in his face.

Joe Rogan 38:44 (laughs)

Bill Burr 38:45 And nobody goes like, "Whoa, whoa, whoa!" Like, there's gonna be a fight. It's like, "Yes, that's exactly what you do in this situation." And the guy who takes it in the face is just like, "Yeah, thank you."

Joe Rogan 38:52 You're right, I was being a woman.

Bill Burr 38:54 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 38:54 (laughs)

Bill Burr 38:54 He's drying off his sh- shirt just being like, "Sorry, I got a little-"

Joe Rogan 38:57 It was pretty ridiculous.

Bill Burr 38:58 "... Sorry for expressing what I was feeling."

Joe Rogan 39:00 Well, back then, people were hard. They had just gotten through the Great Depression. I mean, that was just a couple of years before that.

Bill Burr 39:06 Yeah. I remember that Ken Burns, the war, they used to say, yeah, and he... Like, guys who would come home with that, uh, PT- however you say it.

Joe Rogan 39:12 PTSD, yeah.

Bill Burr 39:12 PTSD. Would come back and they, they would say, like, he couldn't shake off the war.

Joe Rogan 39:16 Mm.

Bill Burr 39:17 That's what they... That's all those kids had back then, was shake it off. You gotta shake it off, man. Don't think about it. Shake it off.

Joe Rogan 39:23 Well, you remember it was shellshocked when we were kids?

Bill Burr 39:26 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 39:26 Vietnam, they'd come back shellshocked.

Bill Burr 39:28 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 39:29 They would call it shellshocked. Well, you gotta think, these people get through the Great Depression, that's the beginning of the 20th century, and then they grow up, you know. So these, these guys that are acting in the 1950s, in those films, like during the 1920s, you know, they, they were, they were kids.

Bill Burr 39:45 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 39:45 So this is, this is the environment they came up in, harsh. No one tolerated any bullshit.

Bill Burr 39:48 Yeah, and I also think that that's why those, those guys from back in the day, those actors were so, like, legit and seemed tough. Like, and even if they weren't, like, all buff the way guys are nowadays and all fucking, you know, shredded with abs. But, like, Lee Marvin, like, fought in the Korean War and was shot and, like, most of his platoon died, something like that.

Joe Rogan 40:06 Yeah.

Bill Burr 40:06 So, like, when he's in a movie, like, killing somebody, like, he's done this shit.

Joe Rogan 40:11 Yeah.

Bill Burr 40:11 So I think that there's just something about that versus today where, you know, I don't know.

Joe Rogan 40:17 They're, yeah-

Bill Burr 40:18 I just had a fucked up thought.

Joe Rogan 40:19 It's dramatizing. Well, that's why Oliver Stone... What was your fucked up thought?

Bill Burr 40:22 That because we've been in these wars so long that we have another generation of great actors coming our way.

Joe Rogan 40:28 (laughs)

Bill Burr 40:29 (laughs) Our generation was too soft. We were between Vietnam and all this crap in the Middle East.

Joe Rogan 40:34 Well, this is the... For these guys coming up-

Bill Burr 40:36 << I'm punching my card. >> That was us. << Footloose >>

Joe Rogan 40:40 (Laughs) (clapping) The thing about these kids coming up today, they're, they've been involved in wars where we didn't learn from not taking care of the troops. We didn't learn from exposing them to bad chemicals in Vietnam and Agent Orange.

Bill Burr 40:56 Right.

Joe Rogan 40:56 And all the shit. They, we didn't learn. Like, the- these, these kids are still... You know about, um, these burn pits that they have on, on bases over in Iraq and Afghanistan?

Bill Burr 41:05 Uh-huh.

Joe Rogan 41:05 They take all their waste and they just burn it. I didn't, I didn't know about this.

Bill Burr 41:09 All right.

Joe Rogan 41:09 I mean, I think maybe I peripherally heard about it, but then, uh, Evan Hafer from Black Rifle Coffee was on the podcast talking about all these guys that are experiencing all these horrific problems because you've been breathing in toxic burn fumes. Everything. They burn everything. Human shit, plastic garbage. They throw it all into this gigantic fire pit and it burns 24/7. So these guys are constantly breathing in fumes from burning chemicals and burning waste. And, like, the fact that after all the shit that happened with, uh, Agent Orange in Vietnam, that this is still going on today, you, you still-

Bill Burr 41:45 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 41:45 All the shit that happened in the, the Gulf War, the first Gulf War, with, uh, you know, the depleted uranium where they'd come back with the Gulf War sick- sickness and-

Bill Burr 41:54 Yeah, I know.

Joe Rogan 41:55 ... nobody knew what the fuck that was and their kids would be born with all these deformities.

Bill Burr 41:57 I like all these tent cities. They sit there and they go, "Support the troops, support the troops." And then when they get homeless, they're like, "They're, they're taking up these people... These are our sidewalks." And I was fucking around with talking, joking about that last night.

Joe Rogan 42:08 Yeah.

Bill Burr 42:08 It's like those are your fellow countrymen. You can't... I don't know. This, it's a very, uh, it's a weird... It isn't weird, it's just how people are. It's just, it's all location. It's like real estate, right?

Joe Rogan 42:21 My friend Steve was in the woods and, uh, they were... Steve Rinella, he runs the show, uh, Meat Eater on Netflix.

Bill Burr 42:28 What's that about?

Joe Rogan 42:28 It's a hunting show.

Bill Burr 42:30 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 42:30 He's a conser- conservationist.

Bill Burr 42:32 (laughs) That's great, dude.

Joe Rogan 42:33 Yeah.

Bill Burr 42:33 That's pretty right on the nose.

Joe Rogan 42:34 Um, but they, they had this thing they were doing-

Bill Burr 42:36 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 42:36 ... where they were going into the woods, into these, uh, public land areas and cleaning up. So they'd go in and just... 'Cause a lot of people are assholes. They leave behind water bottles and all kinds of shit. They camp, they leave their garbage. So they went in and they were just going in and cleaning up and they, they stumbled upon a homeless encampment. And, uh, he remembers thinking, like, that he didn't wanna talk to them. Like, he felt like, "Shit, fuck, I'm running into these people." Like, this feeling too... And he said he wound up talking to them and just, like, just, just giving it a chance. And they were like, "Oh yeah, hey, good. Give us a bag, we'll help out." And they started putting stuff in the bag too and they were like normal folks.

Bill Burr 43:13 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 43:13 And he realized like, "Oh...... these are just people where it, it went wrong. It went-

Bill Burr 43:17 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 43:18 ... left when they should've gone right. They lost their job. All of a sudden, they're out in the street.

Bill Burr 43:22 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 43:22 They don't know how to make a, a living now. They have a tent. I'll just stay here for a little while.

Bill Burr 43:26 Some of them are extremely dangerous, so that's what makes you go-

Joe Rogan 43:28 Yeah.

Bill Burr 43:28 ... like, "I don't fucking know" here. So, it's, it's hard.

Joe Rogan 43:30 Yeah. That, too. You never know.

Bill Burr 43:31 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 43:31 Yeah. You never know.

Bill Burr 43:32 I knew a guy that just kinda did that, just got tired of people, is what he did. He, he just fucking... I think he did it in, like, Maine, too. It was, like, hardcore.

Joe Rogan 43:41 There was a guy that was famous for doing it in Maine. He was a legend-

Bill Burr 43:45 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 43:45 ... because they didn't know if he was real or not, 'cause he'd break into people's houses and steal shit, and he lived by himself for more than a decade, in the woods in Maine.

Bill Burr 43:53 I think it was longer than that, yeah. I remember that.

Joe Rogan 43:54 Yeah. You remember that story?

Bill Burr 43:55 And he finally got caught.

Joe Rogan 43:56 Yeah.

Bill Burr 43:56 He finally got caught, and he said, like, in, like, the 20 years he was out there. No, 'cause he was, like, in his 40s. He was right after high school.

Joe Rogan 44:02 Mm-hmm.

Bill Burr 44:02 And, uh, I think one time, he was walking on a trail, and he just went past somebody.

Joe Rogan 44:06 27 years.

Bill Burr 44:07 27 years, yeah. So, if he did it at-

Joe Rogan 44:08 Never got sick. So in 1986, 20-year-old Christopher Knight left his home in Massachusetts, drove to Maine, and disappeared into the woods. Jesus Christ. Imagine if that's your kid. Like, what the fuck, man? What happened here?

Bill Burr 44:20 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 44:21 Ad blocker? Oh, they're gonna make you subscribe, you fucks. Fucking National Geographic. C- can't you come up with a better ad model, you twats? But yeah. Tha- that's a, that's a hard way to live, in the woods in Maine in a tent.

Bill Burr 44:37 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 44:37 Hoo...

Bill Burr 44:38 No, these people were getting mad. Like, this person figured out how to get electricity into his tent off of the telephone pole, and it's like, "That's a smart dude."

Joe Rogan 44:46 Yeah.

Bill Burr 44:46 Get this guy a job, and they're all like... They're, they're, they're acting like they, uh, they're lazy.

Joe Rogan 44:53 (laughs)

Bill Burr 44:53 (laughs) I mean, there's lazy people out there, but you draw the line at, like, "Okay, if I don't do this, I gotta live outside?"

Joe Rogan 44:58 Yeah.

Bill Burr 44:59 Like, to look at them like they're just bums is, um...

Joe Rogan 45:01 Well, people look at people that are doing the wrong thing like you're, you're an outcast. And I felt this when I was a kid in the li- le- the smallest way, but I u- I kinda understand it in a way.

Bill Burr 45:13 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 45:13 When I was 18, when I graduated high school, I didn't do anything for a year 'cause I was competing, and I was like, "I'm just gonna dedicate myself to competing and see if I can make the Olympic team by the time I was 21." That was my goal.

Bill Burr 45:25 Right.

Joe Rogan 45:25 And, uh, I also d- really had no idea what I wanted to study in school. And the only reason why I b- wound up going to school at all is 'cause I didn't want people to think I was a loser, so I went to college. But I remember I would tell people. Like, they're like, "Wait, where'd you go to sc- where you going to school after I graduate college?" I'm like, "Oh, I'm taking the year off." They look at me like, "Oh."

Bill Burr 45:42 Oh.

Joe Rogan 45:42 They didn't wanna hang out with me anymore. Like, literally, they wanted to not talk to me. Like, I could sense it. Like, I might as well s-

Bill Burr 45:48 Well, you should've hung out with me and my friends.

Joe Rogan 45:49 (laughs)

Bill Burr 45:50 We would've, we would've welcomed you.

Joe Rogan 45:51 Oh, my friends did.

Bill Burr 45:52 I went to, like, junior colleges and shit like that.

Joe Rogan 45:55 The friends I had were the same way. They, none of them even bothered going to school. They all went into construction.

Bill Burr 45:59 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 46:00 Friends from high school, they all, like, my friend Jimmy, both my friends Jimmy Dattilio and Jimmy Lawless. One became an electrician, and one became a, a carpenter.

Bill Burr 46:07 All right.

Joe Rogan 46:07 They, uh, they... Those were my good friends in high school outside of my fighting friends. But it was, uh, that feeling that you got of just being a, an outcast, and that was a minor outcast. Like, uh, like, I remember I was delivering newspapers for this lady, and, uh, she was, uh, a- asking me where I'm going to school. And I said, "Well, you know, I'm trying to figure it out. I'm in the middle."

Bill Burr 46:28 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 46:28 And she's like... The feeling that she gave me of just like, "Ugh."

Bill Burr 46:32 Yeah, follow the herd. Follow the herd.

Joe Rogan 46:33 She s- she just, just shucked me off. Like, she was friendly, and then all of a sudden, she wasn't, just based on me saying that I didn't know what I was doing with myself.

Bill Burr 46:44 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 46:44 Yeah.

Bill Burr 46:44 That's, that's how it was.

Joe Rogan 46:45 Just p- just talking about college and... Yeah.

Bill Burr 46:48 That's definitely how it was back then.

Joe Rogan 46:49 Well, it's... You know, Massachusetts is a different spot, too, because it's so goddamn cold in the winter. You can't fuck about. You gotta get going.

Bill Burr 46:58 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 46:58 Like, you can't be that guy who lazes around all day. You'll freeze to death. Like, you have to eat. You have to survive. You have to struggle.

Bill Burr 47:03 It always cracked me up, though, the level of colleges that were there versus what me and my friends were like. You know what I mean? Like, we, we were just the biggest idiots. And, uh, 'cause there was that w- whole weird thing a- that whole weird thing with Boston, where it's just, like, it's these meathead sports fans like me, and then there's, like, Harvard and MIT-

Joe Rogan 47:23 (laughs)

Bill Burr 47:23 ... and BU and... (laughs)

Joe Rogan 47:25 Yeah.

Bill Burr 47:25 You get all these smart people coming in from other, uh... It's like New York.

Joe Rogan 47:29 Yeah.

Bill Burr 47:29 Like, New York talks about all this great shit that they have, and it's just like, you have so many free agents from other states coming in there that end up doing great shit and designing the stuff, but most of you guys are like me. You're walking around in sweatpants getting a slice of fucking pizza.

Joe Rogan 47:43 (laughs)

Bill Burr 47:43 You have nothing to do with this architecture.

Joe Rogan 47:45 Yeah.

Bill Burr 47:45 So I always thought that that was, uh... You know. I've actually, I don't know, the weird thing is I've, I really, really miss being back in, uh, Massachusetts. And I, I would say what it was a- 'cause I don't know now. Now I'm just fucking old, so just been, like, thinking a lot of, uh... I just think with, during this whole, like, pandemic, I've just had the time to finally, after, like... You know, the second you decide on g- you're gonna be a comic, it's just like you just jumped in this river.

Joe Rogan 48:10 Yeah.

Bill Burr 48:10 And it just takes you, and you... And all of a sudden, this happens.

Joe Rogan 48:14 Yeah.

Bill Burr 48:15 And it's like, you can't do standup for a long time. And after you're done, like, cleaning up your house (laughs) and doing shit like that, you kinda gotta sit down and be like, "All right. So what did I do over these last few years, and how the fuck did I end up out here in this place that's gonna, I guess, burn for months now?"

Joe Rogan 48:32 (laughs)

Bill Burr 48:34 Um...

Joe Rogan 48:34 It's burning again. It's on fire again.

Bill Burr 48:37 Yeah, it's the Sa- yeah. Well, you know.

Joe Rogan 48:38 Yeah.

Bill Burr 48:39 That happens out here, too, buddy.

Joe Rogan 48:40 Oh, yeah. Not that much-

Bill Burr 48:41 They had, like, a-

Joe Rogan 48:41 ... right here in Austin.

Bill Burr 48:42 They had, they had, like a Biblical-level drought out here for, like, two, three years, so...

Joe Rogan 48:45 Oh, I remember that. Yeah.

Bill Burr 48:47 I mean-

Joe Rogan 48:47 Lake Travis shriveled up so bad you could see, like, people's dock. Like, "Oh, I'm getting a l- getting a lakefront house."

Bill Burr 48:52 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:52 They get a lakefront house-

Bill Burr 48:53 Dead boaters and shit.

Joe Rogan 48:54 ... and then it was hundreds of yards of just w- ground before the water started.

Bill Burr 48:59 I know. It's kind of funny-

Joe Rogan 49:01 Your boat's sitting on the ground.

Bill Burr 49:02 ... how people think that they're, uh, like, 'cause of those imaginary lines of states that that's not, like, this disease that's gonna fucking work its way acro- I don't know. I don't wanna talk about that shit. It's too dark. That's why I'm watching old Burt Reynolds movies.

Joe Rogan 49:14 But you're right about-

Bill Burr 49:16 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 49:16 ... this giving you a chance to think about things, 'cause you, you can get caught up in the momentum of your life. A lot of people do when they get corporate jobs too, you know, they get these jobs and that's... I've, I've talked to people actually that are like sort of rethinking their own career outs- you know, not show business people, because of this. 'Cause they've been working from home, and then they've been thinking about what they're doing, like this office life is super unhealthy. And they're like, "You know, I could've been working from home all along, I'm actually more productive this way."

Bill Burr 49:41 Right.

Joe Rogan 49:41 And then they start thinking, "Well, you know, I could be working for myself. Like, why don't I start a consulting business or start a this, or start my own business?"

Bill Burr 49:49 Right.

Joe Rogan 49:49 There's a lot of people that are-

Bill Burr 49:50 It is amazing how the whole deal is set up that you don't even have time to think.

Joe Rogan 49:56 Yeah.

Bill Burr 49:56 Like that's, that's for your deathbed.

Joe Rogan 49:58 Mm-hmm.

Bill Burr 49:58 Tell, okay, let me just lay here as I'm fucking breathing my last breath to, to, to sort of assess what the hell this was.

Joe Rogan 50:05 Right. If you wanna compete, if you wanna compete in the marketplace, there's so many people out there that are just going guns blazing, pedal to the floor.

Bill Burr 50:13 There's two deathbed stories that I heard, all right? One of them was... Uh, should I tell the sad one or the, the, the cool one first?

Joe Rogan 50:21 It's up to you.

Bill Burr 50:23 Okay, I'll tell the cool one first.

Joe Rogan 50:24 Okay.

Bill Burr 50:25 We'll end in a dark place.

Joe Rogan 50:26 (laughs) .

Bill Burr 50:26 Um, so I remember hearing Lou Reed, when Lou Reed was on his deathbed, he was just sitting there relaxed, smiling with this look of like wonderment, like enjoying this ex- the, like, the, the, your last experience.

Joe Rogan 50:40 Yeah.

Bill Burr 50:40 I'm going to experience death. And he was open to it, and, and had like a little smile on his face, and it's just like, "Okay, that's how I, I would like to go out." (laughs)

Joe Rogan 50:51 (laughs) .

Bill Burr 50:51 Not being like, "Oh fuck, oh fuck." And then there was another one, I almost don't even wanna say the fucking name. I, I'm not even gonna... It was this famous guy, and he, he was a child star, and I don't think he ever got past that... You know, the ups and downs and the, "I was here and, and now I'm only here," but he still liked doing these huge shows, but he's not as big as he was. And his, his final words were, "So much wasted time."

Joe Rogan 51:14 Wow.

Bill Burr 51:14 And if you look at his career, it wasn't. He worked his ass off, but then I'm th- that's what scares the shit out of me. I'm like, "So much wasted time, dude. You played fucking theaters for 40 years, selling out, and made millions of dollars, and you came out the other side with the, of, uh, with, with, of that saying, 'So much wasted time.'" So that's, kind of, making me look at like, uh, you know... It's, it's a, there's this weird sort of thing with like what we do, like, "Oh, this, it's exciting and stuff and s- but, you know, you, kind of, also sit back like, "All right, well, I'm doing... If I, if I do that too much and something else suffers, or did I, I take the time?" Like, uh, you know, I have a pool, I'm n- I'm never in it.

Joe Rogan 51:53 (laughs)

Bill Burr 51:55 So it's just this expensive puddle, like, "What am I doing with this fucking thing?" And it's like, what-

Joe Rogan 52:00 Someone comes over to maintain your puddle.

Bill Burr 52:02 Dude, and that was the dream.

Joe Rogan 52:03 Yeah.

Bill Burr 52:03 I remember like living in play, fucking New York, no air conditioners. Like, "Someday, I'm gonna get a fucking house and I'm gonna have a fucking pool. And on a goddamn day like this-

Joe Rogan 52:11 Yeah.

Bill Burr 52:11 ... I'm gonna fucking jump into that thing." And, uh...

Joe Rogan 52:14 Yeah.

Bill Burr 52:14 And on hot days like that, I'm not, I'm fucking sitting in my office, you know, working. But there's something to be said about that 'cause that's what you're supposed to do as a dad and everything. But then, um, you know, there's also that other thing, it's like if you work too much, do you end up being that guy laying there?

Joe Rogan 52:30 You probably will.

Bill Burr 52:31 Yeah. Oh, thanks Joe. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 52:32 You know, that's the, the thing about those guys... Well, if you work too much, I'm saying.

Bill Burr 52:35 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 52:35 I think those guys that, uh, that's so, so much wasted time guys, you know, they're, they also... It's very difficult when you're in a competitive business like show business to pay attention to just yourself, and just like enjoy your experience and be in the moment. Everybody is looking at themselves through the eyes of the success of other people. Like, I remember when I was on, (clears throat) on News Radio, um, the, the staff, everybody, uh, the crew, uh, the, uh, the, the cast rather, everybody else besides me had a background in show business. All I had to do... I only had a background in standup.

Bill Burr 53:12 Right.

Joe Rogan 53:13 I'd never taken acting classes other than a few private classes that they made me take when they gave me a development deal. So I, I didn't understand the culture of acting.

Bill Burr 53:21 Uh-huh.

Joe Rogan 53:21 And I remember I was on the set and they would read Variety or they would read, you know, what, whatever those show... Hollywood Reporter. And they would read about people getting deals, and they would read about how well Friends was doing and how well this is doing, and they'd get so fucking mad. And I, and I would, I would go, "Why are you reading that? Like, you're reading the devil's rag." I go, "You guys are upset." I go, "Last time I checked, I'm on fucking TV."

Bill Burr 53:44 I know.

Joe Rogan 53:45 "I'm a 27-year-old kid and I'm on TV."

Bill Burr 53:48 Maybe 'cause that was such a well-written, well-respected show that didn't get quite the-

Joe Rogan 53:55 Yeah.

Bill Burr 53:55 ... shine that it, it should have, I felt. I felt 'cause that was a really, really, really good show, with like a ridiculous level talented cast, and there's al- always those things. But that's something you have to learn in this business, that you just have to accept that like, you know, I always e- I equate a lot of things to like music that, you know, you'll have like some pop star, you know, some young, you know, guy or girl's gonna come out, prime of their life, good-looking, singing some, you know, bubblegum shit is always gonna sell more-

Joe Rogan 54:22 Yeah.

Bill Burr 54:22 ... than this other thing, and you just have to, you gotta be okay with that.

Joe Rogan 54:26 Yeah.

Bill Burr 54:26 'Cause-

Joe Rogan 54:26 But you just gotta be like

Narrator 54:27 Okay with your choices. Yeah.

Bill Burr 54:27 ... if you wanna sell that, yeah, you gotta, you gotta go do that bubblegum shit. And if you don't wanna do that, don't fucking sit there and look at it and be upset.

Joe Rogan 54:34 Comparison is the thief of joy. It's a famous quote, but it's an awesome one, it really is. It's, you, you can't-

Bill Burr 54:39 I lived that for a while. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 54:40 Yeah, a lot of people do.

Bill Burr 54:42 (laughs) .

Joe Rogan 54:42 Especially show business, show business that's a common thing amongst comics. It's, uh, you would see it, this, this gleam of jealousy. But I think also, uh, uh, part of it is there's good aspects of jealousy and that...... you can feel bad that you're not getting something that other people are getting, and then it makes you work harder. But then once you've achieved, like, a, a m- a level of success where it's measurable, like, where you're like, "Hey, look, you're paying your bills. You're going, and you're doing shows, and people are coming-"

Bill Burr 55:10 Right.

Joe Rogan 55:10 "... to see you. Like, you're doing great. Just concentrate on the work. Then concentrate on the work. Don't con- concentrate on being at, at your best. Don't concentrate on how well this guy is doing-"

Bill Burr 55:20 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 55:20 "... and how well that..." I remember when Dane Cook was killing it. There were so many haters. And not just because of all the real reasons to be a hater, but also just because of his success was so astronomical. I remember people would just fume thinking about Dane Cook selling out arenas. It would drive them crazy. And I remember thinking, like, "Just concentrate on getting better. Like, concentrate on your act." Like-

Bill Burr 55:43 Well, I kind of focused on just the... Beyond that, I focused on doing what I thought that I, I, that I w- I wanted to do. Like, "I don't give a shit. Like, I'm g- I'm gonna make this thing. And I don't give a fuck if five p- people see this. I wanna do this." And then all of a sudden, it just changed my perspective on the whole thing, where it was just like, "Oh, y- you know, this is just like a, a..." Like, you don't have to try to do everything.

Joe Rogan 56:06 Yeah.

Bill Burr 56:06 And in fact, if this is, like, really hitting, you don't have to go do that. It's like, "Well, I, I kinda wanna go over here and just do, uh, this thing." And, um, I was talking to you about, like, standup earlier. And, and over the summer, I was lucky enough that Dave Chappelle invited me to come out and do a couple shows out in, uh, his place out there in Ohio. And going out there and getting in front of a crowd where there was no cellphones, and I knew that this was just gonna be for them-

Joe Rogan 56:35 Yeah.

Bill Burr 56:35 ... and I didn't have to worry about all this shit, it suddenly reminded me of how fun standup used to be before all the, the joke police came out to complain about shit that happened at a show that they weren't at. And I was... It was sort of this thunderclap moment where it was just like, "I haven't done standup wrong for, like, five years. I've been..." As far as... Not a... I, I... It's not that I didn't say what I wanted to say. I was looking over my shoulder as I was doing it. Literally telling jokes, going like, "Is this gonna be the one?"

Joe Rogan 57:06 (laughs)

Bill Burr 57:06 Right?

Joe Rogan 57:07 Yeah.

Bill Burr 57:07 And then-

Joe Rogan 57:08 I know that...

Bill Burr 57:08 ... just doing his gig for three days, I was like... It took me back to, uh, being at the Boston Comedy Club in New York, back when, you know, I would watch a young Dave Chappelle and, and, uh, all of the guys down there. And I was just... And ever since then, in August, it was like, "Oh, yeah. Like, this isn't theirs. This is mine." And theirs meaning these fucking assholes who are sitting there like, like I'm on, uh, Shark Tank, and I'm trying to sell 'em something or whatever, and it's just like, "No, this, this is just... I'm just up here. I'm not doing anything. I'm just up here fucking around, saying crazy shit that I think's funny, trying to make you laugh, but, like, this... Like, my act is mine. You know what I mean? This is, this is my shit to say. If you like it, you like it. If you don't, there's 100,000 comedians. Go find the fucking one that you like, and..."

Joe Rogan 57:57 But you also have to accept the fact that if you're gonna do something that people don't like, there's gonna be a certain amount of people that because of social media... First of all, people are addicted to posting. They love it. They love posting things. They do it all day long to get a j- a juice out of it. And then on top of that, if they could post about something that's, that, that rings true with outrage, especially if they can take you out of context-

Bill Burr 58:19 Right.

Joe Rogan 58:19 ... and it rings with outrage, then people will click on that. It'll get a lot of likes. So, it's, it's inevitable that if you talk about controversial subjects like you do-

Bill Burr 58:28 No, I understand that, but my thing is, is to not-

Joe Rogan 58:31 Focus on it.

Bill Burr 58:31 ... just completely let go of that.

Joe Rogan 58:32 Yes.

Bill Burr 58:32 Like, "Oh, is that what you're doing? Is that how you took it? Great." I'm going onto my next show, and I'm not... I'm, I'm gonna continue doing that bit, and I'm gonna expand on it because that's what I wanna do, 'cause it makes me happy, and this is what I think is funny. And if you don't think it's f- I respect it.

Joe Rogan 58:48 Yeah.

Bill Burr 58:48 But, like, I, I... Ever since that Chappelle's Show gig, I've just been like, "Oh, yeah, this used to be fucking, like-"

Joe Rogan 58:55 Well, that's great.

Bill Burr 58:56 "... like this awesome thing."

Joe Rogan 58:58 Wild thing that nobody r- other than the people in the room. You had to worry about people leaving the room and getting mad at you. Like, "That's not funny." Like, people would get upset.

Bill Burr 59:08 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 59:08 But there's always gonna be one or two-

Bill Burr 59:10 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 59:10 ... if you got 450 people in a room, there's gonna be one or two that get pissed off and-

Bill Burr 59:14 Now they drive away. It's fucking hilarious.

Joe Rogan 59:16 (laughs)

Bill Burr 59:16 They just back their car up, and they just... (laughs)

Joe Rogan 59:18 Backed-up drive-in shows. (laughs)

Bill Burr 59:19 Yeah, the drive-in shows. I've had a few of those.

Joe Rogan 59:21 But Bert is the pioneer of that. Bert is the guy. He doesn't get enough credit for that. Bert Kreischer, he invented these fucking drive-in shows. He loves doing standup, and he was trying to figure out a way to keep doing standup during the pandemic, and he came up with the idea of drive-in shows. He was the first guy to do it. I don't know if one of his agents or managers or someone-

Bill Burr 59:39 No, no, he, he kept-

Joe Rogan 59:40 ... I think it was him, yeah.

Bill Burr 59:40 ... trying to talk me into doing 'em, and I was just like, "I don't know, man. I, I got too much scar tissue from doing jokes, doing jokes in front of crowds like this." It just took me back to doing, um... I was looking at them like that, that reminds me of doing nooners at colleges, but I didn't understand that it's a different dynamic.

Joe Rogan 59:58 Yeah.

Bill Burr 59:58 Where back when you would do a nooner at a fucking cafeteria at a college, those people didn't want a show. They wanted to eat and talk to their friends. And all of a sudden, you're up there, "Hey, what's up with stuff?" You know?

Joe Rogan 1:00:08 (laughs)

Bill Burr 1:00:09 They go, "What the fuck? I'm trying to study or hit on this chick or whatever." But those shows, as much as they look like hell gigs, it is the, like, the greatest crowd ever, 'cause they're so into comedy that they're willing to sit in their car and listen to it, and they act... It's the weirdest thing ever. They're like, "It's the worst..." Y- like, a year ago, it was like, "This is the worst fucking setup ever for comedy, but it's the greatest crowd ever," and it ends up being, like, this great show.

Joe Rogan 1:00:36 Do they do it through the radio? Is that what they're doing?

Bill Burr 1:00:38 I haven't done the drive-in ones. I've done, I've done parking lots. I did a patch of grass behind a motel-

Joe Rogan 1:00:43 (laughs)

Bill Burr 1:00:44 ... which was an incredible show. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:00:46 Where was that?

Bill Burr 1:00:46 I felt... I don't... Oh, no, it was somewhere in Connecticut. And this woman, like, uh, they kinda had, like, this white noise thing, and the thing was broken. And I was in the middle of doing my set, and people were sitting on the grass, and there was no stage.... so I felt like we were all gonna, like, take out tambourines. It felt like some hippie thing-

Joe Rogan 1:01:05 (laughs)

Bill Burr 1:01:05 ... and I was standing behind this motel doing this shit, and it was, like, you know, maybe, like, 35, 40 people there. And this lady comes walking over with her dog, and she starts talking to s- the guy running it, and then she just sort of walked... It was so not a show that she wasn't even self-conscious, and she just walked up, she said, "You know, you're talking way too loud," and just, like-

Joe Rogan 1:01:25 To you?

Bill Burr 1:01:26 Yeah, like I was her neighbor. It was fucking hilarious, and then I was trying to be like, "All right, sorry. I'll try to keep it down," and I felt bad, you know. I don't know.

Joe Rogan 1:01:35 (laughs)

Bill Burr 1:01:35 And then she walked away. I know, and she started wagging her finger at me and then that, of course, got me going. Like, "Don't fucking wag your finger at me. I've been polite, okay?" And then she walked away.

Joe Rogan 1:01:45 Did they have permits?

Bill Burr 1:01:46 Yeah, but then I watched her walk and I th- started making fun of her house, doing this whole bit on split entries, um, that I can't remember. They had a new roof with old shutters, and I was saying that's like wearing, buying a new suit with old shoes. You ruin the whole thing. I felt... I was just trashing it 'cause I thought it was her house, and I found out she lived across the street-

Joe Rogan 1:02:05 (laughs)

Bill Burr 1:02:06 ... and then the person (laughs) who owned the house was actually on the porch listening, enjoying the show, and I was shitting all over his house and I felt-

Joe Rogan 1:02:13 (laughs)

Bill Burr 1:02:13 ... ended up feeling really bad about it.

Joe Rogan 1:02:17 (laughs)

Bill Burr 1:02:17 'Cause what's funny is, with all of this shit, is I don't do this shit to make you feel bad. I'm trying to make you feel good. That's the funny thing about it.

Joe Rogan 1:02:25 Yeah.

Bill Burr 1:02:25 So, like, when people take it a certain way, I'm not this heartless person that just goes, like... You know, I remember way back in the day I did a g- I did a bit and I made this woman cry, and I felt fucking horrible. I just didn't have the emotional ability to handle it 'cause she was right. She w- I mean, she... That's like, I wasn't doing it about... I, but it touched too much on her life and where she was.

Joe Rogan 1:02:51 Mm-hmm.

Bill Burr 1:02:51 It happened to me twice. I remember this woman came up to me and she's like, "Plane crashes aren't funny," and left, and I was like, "Oh, my God."

Joe Rogan 1:02:58 Oh.

Bill Burr 1:02:59 Yeah, and I wish that I was mature enough to be like, "I am so sorry," you know? You know? But not like I shouldn't have done the bit, but it's just, like, I shoulda had, like, empathy there. I didn't know what to do, and of course back then, you know, I... all my comic friends, we were all like, you know, in our 20s. You know, broken toys at that point, crawling out of whatever the fuck happened that made you a comedian, so asking them for advice was not a, the right thing to do. I would've been like, "Fuck you, bitch," and blah, blah, blah, shit-

Joe Rogan 1:03:30 (laughs)

Bill Burr 1:03:30 ... and even then I was just like, "Really? That's what you would've said?" 'Cause there was that, that thing back then where it's just, "I'm gonna hurt you before you hurt me," that type of shit, so.

Joe Rogan 1:03:38 Yeah. Also you had to be-

Bill Burr 1:03:39 Um-

Joe Rogan 1:03:39 ... hardcore.

Bill Burr 1:03:41 Yeah, I remember there was, like, a big th- like, when we were coming up there was this, this badge of honor that you walked a room.

Joe Rogan 1:03:46 Yes.

Bill Burr 1:03:47 Uh-

Joe Rogan 1:03:47 Well, one of my favorite shows I ever saw, uh, Bill Hicks walked a room, one of my favorite shows I ever saw.

Bill Burr 1:03:53 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:03:53 It was, uh... Bill Hicks went on after this guy who was a nice guy, but he was a hack, and the hack was doing... I mean, he was doing the whole thing, just, uh, b- Dunkin' Donuts, cops jokes, uh, uh, cartoon characters smoking pot, you know? Like, it was the D-

Bill Burr 1:04:08 Classic rock.

Joe Rogan 1:04:09 It was-

Bill Burr 1:04:09 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:04:10 It was (laughs) ... Classic rock is good music, but this was-

Bill Burr 1:04:13 You know I mean though? They became-

Joe Rogan 1:04:14 Yeah.

Bill Burr 1:04:14 ... a formula after a while.

Joe Rogan 1:04:15 Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Bill Burr 1:04:17 Sing about a car, sing about a woman.

Joe Rogan 1:04:19 Yeah. Play Free Bird. Yeah.

Bill Burr 1:04:20 Yeah. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:04:21 It... But this guy was doing this wack comedy set and it got a good amount of laughs, like, "Ah," people liked it, and then Hicks went up. And he went up, and immediately philosophical, and brooding, and pacing the stage, and they fucking hated him. And as they-

Bill Burr 1:04:41 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:04:41 ... as they hated him... Fitzsimmons and I were in the back of the room. I'll never forget this. Fitzsimmons and I to this day talk about this. We were laughing, like when people were getting up and leaving, 'cause we were 21, right? We were straight open micers.

Bill Burr 1:04:53 Oh, wow.

Joe Rogan 1:04:53 And we were sitting there watching 'cause this was when Hicks was... you know, just started to come off of, uh, HBO, so this was around '88, '89-ish. And, uh, he is doing these bits, and as he's doing these bits, we're laughing harder and more people are leaving. So there's, like, maybe 10 of us in the back, comics and people that work at a club, at Nick's Comedy Stop, and then people were just getting up in droves and walking out. At the end of the night, there's fucking 30 people had to... What's Nick's when it was packed? 300?

Bill Burr 1:05:24 It's like 400-

Joe Rogan 1:05:25 400?

Bill Burr 1:05:25 ... with- with the... If they got 'em all the way