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Joe Rogan Experience #1579 - Suzanne Santo & Gary Clark Jr.

Singer/songwriter Suzanne Santo is the lead vocalist and co-founder of HoneyHoney, as well as a solo artist who is currently at work on her second album. Gary Clark Jr. is a Grammy award winning singer, songwriter, and guitar player.

Joe RoganhostSuzanne SantoguestGary Clark Jr.guest
Jun 27, 20243h 11mWatch on YouTube ↗

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  1. 0:00 – 4:38

    Suzanne’s LSD stories: laughter, healing intentions, and a shared “frequency shift” in Joshua Tree

    1. NA

      (drum music plays) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

    2. The Joe Rogan Experience.

    3. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day.

    4. JR

      (instrumental music plays) These are jokes.

    5. SS

      (laughs)

    6. JR

      We're live, we're rolling now.

    7. NA

      That's funny.

    8. JR

      Don't, don't clam up.

    9. NA

      I know.

    10. JR

      What are you telling me, what are you telling me about acid? Tell, tell me...

    11. SS

      Oh. (laughs) Right into it.

    12. JR

      Yes.

    13. SS

      Yeah.

    14. JR

      Because it was very, very ... And I stopped you, because it was too good.

    15. SS

      Hmm.

    16. JR

      It was like, it was very interesting.

    17. SS

      Well-

    18. JR

      You, you were saying that y- you did it once, and you, you were in a bathtub-

    19. SS

      Mm-hmm.

    20. JR

      ... and it was interesting, but then you did it ... Uh, where were you the second time you did it?

    21. SS

      So the first time I did it, I was with, uh, three other people and we like, you know, it was celebrating someone's birthday. And all my friends are like pretty spiritual in that way, like meditative and-

    22. JR

      Annoying. (laughs)

    23. SS

      No, you know ... No it's good stuff.

    24. JR

      (laughs)

    25. SS

      I love it. I, they-

    26. JR

      I'm kidding.

    27. SS

      I know, it can be annoying, I agree. That shit can be really fucking-

    28. JR

      With the wrong people.

    29. SS

      ... 100%.

    30. JR

      When it's inauthentic, it's super annoying.

  2. 4:38 – 7:08

    Rogan’s “realer-than-real” theory: psychedelics, entities, and dimensional UFO ideas

    1. JR

      I don't think it's hocus pocus, that's-

    2. SS

      It was amazing.

    3. JR

      That's why I wanted you to talk about it. I think-

    4. SS

      Yeah.

    5. JR

      I think we're, uh, we have a limited idea of what's possible in terms of like what reality is.

    6. SS

      Mm-hmm.

    7. JR

      And when you do psychedelic drugs, you, you experience this thing that you can't experience naturally, right?

    8. SS

      Mm-hmm.

    9. JR

      You have this, these wild visualizations and you feel like you're being visited by-

    10. SS

      Yeah.

    11. JR

      ... entities and things are communicating with you. And some people say, "Well, it's hallucinations. Your mind is playing tricks on you," and all these things.

    12. SS

      Uh, sure.

    13. JR

      It's ... That might, might be.

    14. SS

      Sometimes, yeah.

    15. JR

      It might be that.

    16. SS

      For sure.

    17. JR

      But also it might be possible that there's a frequency that you can tap into with these things that's not available to you.

    18. SS

      Right.

    19. JR

      And that these things are always here.

    20. SS

      Mm-hmm.

    21. JR

      So like there's a lot of people that think when, when they're talking about like the UFO phenomenon, there're a lot, there's a lot of people that think these things aren't just visiting from other star systems, they're visiting from other dimensions.

    22. SS

      Right.

    23. JR

      And that they're there all the time.

    24. SS

      Correct.

    25. JR

      And they can come in and out and they can go. And we, we are ... We're like, "Uh-luh." We're like trying to grab ghosts, like we're like-

    26. SS

      (laughs)

    27. JR

      ... "I just need to bring it home and show everybody proof."

    28. SS

      Right.

    29. JR

      But you're never gonna, you're never gonna have proof.

    30. SS

      Right.

  3. 7:08 – 8:57

    Gary’s mushroom experiences and why people “disappear into nature”

    1. GJ

      I'm missing out, man.

    2. SS

      Oh, Gary.

    3. GJ

      I haven't, I haven't done LSD, DMT.

    4. JR

      None of those things?

    5. SS

      Let's go.

    6. GJ

      No. I've done mushrooms and I don't know how you can like hang out and be with people. I always kind of, I start laughing a little bit and then I start to find myself-

    7. SS

      You have to get the right people.

    8. GJ

      ... like disappearing. I'll be like hanging out with a tree or some shit.

    9. SS

      (laughs) That's awesome.

    10. JR

      That's great.

    11. SS

      That's the best part.

    12. JR

      Yeah, I mean, that's the- the best part of mushrooms is nature, right?

    13. SS

      Yeah.

    14. GJ

      Yeah, but there's some... You definitely get from that, you know, feeling re-energized and, you know, kind of like a reset. That's kind of what I get from that.

    15. SS

      For sure.

    16. JR

      It's phenomenal for people with PTSD.

    17. SS

      Yeah.

    18. JR

      Pe- people with PTSD, a lot of soldiers experience these mushroom trips and it just relaxes them, relieves them of a lot of the pressure.

    19. SS

      Right.

    20. JR

      That they have.

    21. SS

      Yeah.

    22. JR

      You know?

    23. SS

      It's, um... But like per your point, like it is important to make sure you're in good hands with whoever you're doing it with. Like and it could be like one of your good buds, but like sometimes like, you know, when some- some folks don't quite have a handle on their darkness? You probably don't want to do acid for the first time with somebody like that, you know? (laughs)

    24. JR

      Yeah.

    25. GJ

      Or anybody.

    26. SS

      And that's no disrespect to people, you know, that have shit to deal with. It's just like... 'Cause there's no, um, there's no seatbelt, you know? Like you're just going.

    27. GJ

      Yeah, that was my first, my kind of first trip was hanging with a bunch of folks and we hadn't done it before.

    28. SS

      Right. (laughs)

    29. JR

      (laughs)

    30. GJ

      And all of a sudden, you know, the guy's house we were at-

  4. 8:57 – 11:43

    “The Grid” and altered consciousness: patterns, meditation, and the Matrix feeling

    1. JR

      I remember one time tripping.

    2. SS

      Yeah.

    3. JR

      And this has only happened to me once.

    4. SS

      Damn.

    5. JR

      But one time tripping where I- I- I felt like I could see the patterns of- of existence that aren't available with the n- the naked eye.

    6. SS

      Mm.

    7. JR

      Like I could see that there's like some weird like grid to everything.

    8. GJ

      Mm.

    9. SS

      Yes, The Grid. You've seen The Grid.

    10. JR

      Yeah. Yeah.

    11. SS

      I've seen The Grid.

    12. JR

      You know what I'm talking about?

    13. SS

      Yeah, it's like The Matrix. It's so weird. It... You kind of like... It's like-

    14. JR

      You feel like you can almost step through it sometimes too.

    15. SS

      You can. You can in meditation too.

    16. GJ

      (laughs)

    17. SS

      No, it's for real. I have seen The Grid as well.

    18. JR

      Oh.

    19. GJ

      (laughs)

    20. SS

      I think that's what the photo negative was this time too.

    21. GJ

      Mm.

    22. SS

      It's like presents itself differently.

    23. JR

      Yeah.

    24. SS

      But it's like... I love this shit.

    25. JR

      I feel-

    26. SS

      I've felt so good ever since too.

    27. JR

      I- I think when you have these alternative states of consciousness, these altered states of consciousness, and you enter into this different frame of mind and your- your brain tunes into this... It's like a fleeting, but completely different frequency. Like you can't hold onto it for very long.

    28. GJ

      Mm.

    29. JR

      But when you get there, you'll... It- it- it seems more real than regular life.

    30. SS

      Mm-hmm.

  5. 11:43 – 15:17

    Live music as an altered state: Anton’s show, crowd energy, and band chemistry

    1. JR

      I think you understand it more. I think there's a, there's a bunch of different altered states of consciousness that people achieve that we take for granted and I think music is one of them.

    2. SS

      Mm.

    3. JR

      And I was really thinking that after your show last night.

    4. SS

      She's perfect.

    5. JR

      I was, I was... I enjoyed the fuck out of that.

    6. SS

      It was so good.

    7. GJ

      Thanks, man.

    8. JR

      I haven't seen a live performance in so long, to be able to sit in Anton's and just take it in, man.

    9. GJ

      Yeah.

    10. JR

      It was- it was amazing. First of all, you killed it.

    11. SS

      Killed it.

    12. GJ

      Thanks, man.

    13. JR

      And those brothers? Who are those brothers?

    14. GJ

      Peterson. The Peterson brothers, man.

    15. SS

      So good. (laughs)

    16. JR

      God damn those guys are good.

    17. GJ

      Yeah, out of Bastrop, Texas, right down the street.

    18. SS

      God. They're so sweet.

    19. JR

      Shout out to the Peterson brothers.

    20. GJ

      Yeah, man.

    21. SS

      (laughs)

    22. JR

      Woo!

    23. SS

      They're so good.

    24. GJ

      Yeah, they're- they're amazing.

    25. JR

      Amazing.

    26. GJ

      I've been- I've been seeing them since they were, like, nine and 11. And-

    27. JR

      Really?

    28. SS

      Really?

    29. GJ

      ... they're still early 20s.

    30. SS

      Yeah, they seem so young.

  6. 15:17 – 18:19

    Comedy during COVID: Rogan’s return to sets and the Chappelle residency chain reaction

    1. SS

      I had fun.

    2. JR

      It was awesome. It was beautiful. That was cool. It was- I mean, that was the first time we've been out this- this week doing stuff, you know? And I was really inspired by seeing you guys, you know, come down and do stuff. I was like, "I gotta get back out." You know?

    3. SS

      Yeah.

    4. GJ

      I gotta get back out and-

    5. JR

      Well, I got inspired by doing- by- first of all, I- I took a long time off. I did, uh, one weekend in July and then I got weirded out. I was like, (clears throat) "I'm at-"

    6. SS

      Where was that?

    7. JR

      In the Houston Improv.

    8. SS

      Okay.

    9. JR

      But I was like, "I don't wanna get any sick."

    10. GJ

      (laughs)

    11. SS

      And it was inside?

    12. JR

      Yeah, I was like, "I don't wanna get any sick. I don't wanna get sick."

    13. SS

      Right.

    14. JR

      But then after a while, you're like, "I gotta live my fucking life."

    15. SS

      Yeah.

    16. JR

      "Like, I can't... This is a part of my life."

    17. SS

      Mm-hmm.

    18. JR

      And then Tony was in town-

    19. SS

      Yeah.

    20. JR

      ... and Tony was doing this place called Vulcan Gas Company.

    21. GJ

      Yeah.

    22. JR

      And I dropped in and did a set and then immediately I was like, "Okay, I'm back." (slaps desk)

    23. SS

      Cool.

    24. JR

      Like, right away. And then Dave was here the next week and Dave's like, "Come- come do a set." So I did a set and then after the show, Dave grabs me and he's like, "Let's do a residency, Joe Rogan." (laughs)

    25. SS

      (laughs)

    26. JR

      Because he was- he was loving it. He's like, "This is so much fun. Come on. Let's have some fun." And I was like, "Let's have some fun. Fuck it." (slaps desk)

    27. GJ

      Yeah.

    28. JR

      So we're doing a bunch of shows in December and then we're gonna probably do some more, uh, in the upcoming months too.

    29. GJ

      Hmm.

    30. SS

      I mean, that's why I'm here. Like, that's full circle.

  7. 18:19 – 20:54

    COVID reality check: nurses, viral load jokes, and quarantine’s forced self-work

    1. JR

      But only, like, I think worldwide, some r- less than 10 people have ever got it twice.

    2. GJ

      A friend of mine's-

    3. JR

      Which is pretty crazy.

    4. GJ

      A friend of mine f-... wife's friend who's a nurse got it twice-

    5. SS

      Wow.

    6. GJ

      ... within like four weeks.

    7. SS

      Oh, wow.

    8. JR

      Being a nurse, she might not have ever kicked it.

    9. GJ

      Right.

    10. JR

      If it's within four weeks-

    11. GJ

      Yeah.

    12. JR

      ... she might not have ever kicked it, you know? The, the, the thing about nurses is they're just the, uh, uh, I hate this term, viral load. It sounds dirty.

    13. SS

      (laughs)

    14. GJ

      (laughs)

    15. JR

      But they, they just get a lot of viral load. You know, it's like-

    16. SS

      (laughs)

    17. JR

      ... they're-

    18. SS

      Don't I know it. Yeah. (laughs) It's terrible.

    19. GJ

      It does sound disgusting.

    20. JR

      It does sound-

    21. SS

      Disgusting. (laughs)

    22. GJ

      Yeah. (laughs)

    23. JR

      ... pretty gross.

    24. SS

      It's disgusting. No, they do. They're on the front lines, man. My sister's a nurse. She's a, she works with the babies, though. She's in a NICU unit, but it's still like, it's, you gotta watch yourself.

    25. JR

      It's rough.

    26. SS

      Mm-hmm.

    27. JR

      Yeah.

    28. SS

      Yeah.

    29. JR

      Yeah, when-

    30. GJ

      Yeah. That's, yeah, wild stuff. A friend of mine, his, his wife is a nurse, and she was pregnant during this whole thing.

  8. 20:54 – 23:15

    Home life pivots: Gary as a present dad, wife’s businesses, brisket obsession, and smoker talk

    1. GJ

      No, uh, this, this thing has been, it's been a, a real reality check for me. I mean, touring has been everything for me.

    2. SS

      Mm-hmm.

    3. GJ

      And I've toured for the last 10 years and hadn't been able to move around, you know?

    4. SS

      Right.

    5. GJ

      And I was like, "Oh, shit." (laughs)

    6. SS

      (laughs)

    7. GJ

      "That's all I got, you know?" (laughs)

    8. SS

      Yeah. It's like ... (laughs)

    9. GJ

      "You know, this is it." And, uh, but it's been cool, man, because you know, I'm, I'm fortunate, like, uh, I haven't been home. I've, I missed a lot of things with my two older kids, you know? I missed the first steps, I missed the first words, I missed all that kinda stuff.

    10. SS

      Mm-hmm.

    11. GJ

      And so I got-

    12. JR

      Yeah.

    13. GJ

      ... you know, my little one-year-old, and this time, I've seen everything. I've seen his teeth, you know, pop up, I've seen my oldest's teeth fall out, you know, and all that kinda stuff.

    14. SS

      Oh, how cool.

    15. GJ

      And just been around for those things, and watch their brains work every day-

    16. JR

      Yeah.

    17. GJ

      ... pick up something and put it back out there, so.

    18. SS

      That's amazing.

    19. GJ

      I've really taken this time to just kinda be there. And thank God, my wife, she's got like three businesses, and jewelry stuff-

    20. SS

      Oh, cool.

    21. GJ

      ... and got this, uh, thing called Bumpsuit, you know, uh, she's selling clothes to pregnant women, and so she's been holding this whole thing down for us.

    22. SS

      That's awesome.

    23. JR

      Wow.

    24. GJ

      So I've been able to just kind of re-evaluate-

    25. SS

      Reset.

    26. JR

      ... you know, what am I gonna do, you know? This is tour and shit, like gotta-

    27. SS

      Yeah.

    28. GJ

      ... you know, do another hustle. I just been barbecuing, man.

    29. SS

      (laughs)

    30. GJ

      I've been at the house, uh, on the smoker like trying to make the best brisket I can.

  9. 23:15 – 24:54

    Gear nerd corner: pedals vs. digital boards and how guitar ‘magic’ works

    1. SS

      Do you ever get into those digital pedal boards?

    2. GJ

      (sighs)

    3. SS

      I mean ...

    4. GJ

      I, that's, that was it. Yeah. I, I cut the line there.

    5. JR

      (laughs)

    6. GJ

      But ...

    7. SS

      I, I'm with you on that.

    8. JR

      What is a-

    9. SS

      I wanna see the pedals.

    10. JR

      What digital pedal board is like instead of standing on it, you would-

    11. GJ

      Some nerd shit.

    12. JR

      Um-

    13. SS

      It's just like it's, it's-

    14. JR

      ... you press a button?

    15. SS

      It's like a whole interface of like-

    16. GJ

      Foot buttons.

    17. SS

      ... like when, like Gary's pedal board last night, there's all these different pedals, and they're different colors and sizes, and that, they look like that.

    18. JR

      Okay, Jamie's showing off ... Oh, there we go.

    19. SS

      The helix, yeah, yeah, yeah.

    20. JR

      Oh.

    21. SS

      It's just not as much fun.

    22. JR

      How do you go up and down? 'Cause I see you, you guys use your feet to ... One of the things I love about music is I don't know anything.

    23. GJ

      Yeah.

    24. JR

      So I love watching like, "Oh, wow, how are they making these crazy noises?" Like but I, I notice you're moving your feet up and down. Like how would you do that digitally?

    25. SS

      Well, that's a volume pedal. That's different.

    26. JR

      Oh.

    27. SS

      That's, or a wa... Is that a wah-wah pedal? Or-

    28. GJ

      What I was using?

    29. SS

      Yeah.

    30. GJ

      Yeah, it's probably a wah. It's going up and down like that.

  10. 24:54 – 30:18

    Music as medicine: workout songs, why some people hate music, and DIY acoustics at home

    1. JR

      Music is a fucking trip. It really is, 'cause it's kind of like a drug in some ways. Like, there's songs that you hear when you're working out that just juice you up-

    2. SS

      Yeah.

    3. JR

      ... like, like a legit ju- like, if you could drink a shot that does that-

    4. SS

      Wasn't it Jump Start My Heart? Was that it?

    5. JR

      That's good, yeah.

    6. SS

      (laughs) That was the one you got. (laughs)

    7. GJ

      That's the one, that's the one. Yeah, it, it...

    8. SS

      (laughs)

    9. JR

      Yeah. Kick Start My Heart.

    10. SS

      Kick Start My Heart. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. (laughs)

    11. JR

      Kick Start My Heart, Mötley Crüe. Yeah, that's a good one. Yeah. Dude, Don't You Worry 'Bout a Thing, that is my opening song on my workout playlist.

    12. GJ

      Oh, yeah. So good. Dude, you show me some love and, yeah, my phone always blows up when you do stuff like that.

    13. JR

      (laughs)

    14. SS

      Yeah. (laughs)

    15. GJ

      Ooh.

    16. JR

      When you played that last night for your final song, I was like, "Yes."

    17. GJ

      Yeah.

    18. SS

      That was so good.

    19. GJ

      And with the Peterson Brothers too, man. It was-

    20. JR

      Dude, that was amazing. And that was, like, a 10-minute version of it, it was incredible.

    21. GJ

      I know, man. And I was thinking about that too. It was like, people hadn't heard music in a long time, and I'll go for two, two and a half hours, I'm like, "Is this too much?"

    22. JR

      Yeah. No.

    23. SS

      It was perfect.

    24. JR

      It was perfect, it was perfect, it was perfect. We enjoyed the shit out of it.

    25. GJ

      Yeah.

    26. JR

      We had such a great time.

    27. GJ

      Oh.

    28. JR

      But does, d- if you could get in a shot form, like, what it does when you hear a great song when you're working out-

    29. SS

      Mm-hmm.

    30. GJ

      Yeah.

  11. 30:18 – 45:37

    Cats, dating, and exotic-animal chaos: neighbor shaming, cobras, Tiger King, and Texas wildlife

    1. JR

      You're cat lady.

    2. SS

      I am. You know, I got shamed for it recently.

    3. JR

      (gasps)

    4. SS

      And I was like, really? I thought that was interesting, because I have a lot of love to give, and I got him 'cause I was lonely, and I was like, I, and I love animals. Like, I am, I want... I realized recently-... I do want babies and I want a big house full of animals, babies, and, like, music and a revolving door of just, like, incredible guests with food on the table and we're just, like, feasting and loving life. That's what I want.

    5. JR

      This is- this is what you've been thinking of during the quarantine?

    6. SS

      Yeah, yeah. 'Cause I didn't think I wanted kids.

    7. JR

      You gotta find someone to give you babies or you gotta get, go-

    8. SS

      Yeah, he's around. He's coming. I don't know where he is.

    9. JR

      He's coming?

    10. SS

      I don't know.

    11. JR

      Oh, you feel it. He's out there. He's-

    12. SS

      Yeah, yeah.

    13. JR

      When the vibration changes, whoa.

    14. SS

      Yeah. Well, 'cause I'm so happy, like, alone, so it's, like, gonna take, like, a warrior king. You know? Like, I'm not gonna, like-

    15. JR

      I'm gonna throw up.

    16. SS

      (laughs) It's true.

    17. JR

      'Cause any guy who calls himself a warrior king-

    18. SS

      Yeah, that's kind of fucked up.

    19. JR

      ... Jesus.

    20. SS

      Uh, it's just... He- he can't, he can't call himself that. Only I can call him that. That's the rule.

    21. JR

      You shouldn't even call him that. Maybe think it.

    22. SS

      (laughs)

    23. JR

      Think it, but keep it to yourself.

    24. NA

      Could you imagine? That'd be hilarious.

    25. SS

      Okay, okay. C- Can I call him Thor?

    26. JR

      (laughs)

    27. SS

      Can I call him Thor?

    28. NA

      Should walk around.

    29. SS

      (laughs)

    30. JR

      Gary, how long would a relationship last if a woman was calling you a warrior king?

  12. 45:37 – 1:02:04

    Relocation talk: Austin’s appeal, LA’s shifts, and social media’s mental toll

    1. SS

      In the middle of the city and, you know, I, I, I love it. I'm, I'm ready for some, some wide open spaces though. I'm definitely starting to-

    2. JR

      Oh, you gotta move to Texas. That's what you're saying.

    3. SS

      I, I am thinking about it, man.

    4. NA

      That's what we do now.

    5. JR

      That's what you're saying.

    6. SS

      I... Just, like, hanging out with you guys and some of my other good buds here, I was like, "This, this is nice."

    7. JR

      Time to move to Texas.

    8. SS

      I like it here.

    9. JR

      Yeah.

    10. SS

      I, I was talking to Michael, your, uh, road manager.

    11. NA

      Yeah, yeah.

    12. SS

      And I love him.

    13. NA

      Mike Weed.

    14. SS

      Michael Weed. And, and he's not a pothead and I was like, "Good, 'cause that'd be too literal." (laughs)

    15. NA

      Yeah, not at all. His dad is a doctor. He's Dr. Weed.

    16. SS

      Yeah, yeah. He's... But he was, he was talking about fishing-

    17. JR

      (laughs) His dad's Dr. Weed. (laughs)

    18. SS

      His dad's a doctor?

    19. NA

      Yeah.

    20. JR

      Dr. Weed is amazing.

    21. NA

      Yeah, man.

    22. SS

      (laughs)

    23. JR

      He should have a website too.

    24. NA

      It's W-E-E-D.

    25. JR

      He said, "Pot is for losers."

    26. SS

      That's pretty good.

    27. JR

      (laughs)

    28. NA

      Yeah, right?

    29. SS

      That's pretty good. Damn.

    30. NA

      Sorry to interrupt you, but-

  13. 1:02:04 – 1:07:12

    Vaccine uncertainty and Gary’s COVID illness: symptoms, vitamins, and THC headlines

    1. JR

      Yeah, yeah. Are you gonna be lining up to take the vaccine?

    2. SS

      (exhales) That's scary.

    3. GJ

      I'm not.

    4. JR

      Everybody feels that way. Well, you don't have to. You have the immunity.

    5. SS

      Yeah. Mm-mm.

    6. JR

      You have some.

    7. SS

      It's... I'd like to see it, like, go around a couple times.

    8. JR

      Yeah.

    9. SS

      You know, uh, Spiker, uh, I don't know if... I think I'm allowed to say this. His dad, uh, got the vaccine back in September and it's, he's been, like, feeling great. And I guess his dad's one of those people that loves, like-

    10. JR

      How did he get it in September?

    11. SS

      ... likes to be on the, like, test panel for new pharmaceutical stuff. (laughs)

    12. JR

      Oh, geez.

    13. GJ

      Oh.

    14. JR

      What a crazy person to become Spider-Man.

    15. GJ

      Go volunteer to sign up for that shit?

    16. JR

      He's like, "One of these is gonna turn me into Spider-Man. Fuck it."

    17. SS

      Yeah. I mean...

    18. GJ

      Wow.

    19. SS

      I, I, I have no doubt that we could start seeing su- superpowers at some point. Maybe not.

    20. JR

      Oh, they're definitely gonna be doing something.

    21. SS

      (laughs)

    22. JR

      In other countries, they're probably already on it.

    23. SS

      What about you and the vaccine?

    24. JR

      Um, I'll probably take it.

    25. SS

      Yep.

    26. JR

      Yeah, if I'm, um, if I can be assured by people who are doctors.

    27. SS

      Mm-hmm.

    28. JR

      If I, uh, yeah, if I can-

    29. SS

      Right.

    30. JR

      ... get an assurance, like tell me what's the possible negative side effects-

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