Joe Rogan Experience #1580 - Andrew Schulz

1. 0:02 – 2:18

   No-headphones podcasting & Schulz’s pandemic-era rise

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:02

      (drumming) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

   2. NANarrator0:04

      The Joe Rogan Experience.

   3. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (rock music) Andrew.

   4. ASAndrew Schulz0:16

      Hi, Joe.

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:17

      What's up, brother? How are you?

   6. ASAndrew Schulz0:18

      I'm good, man. How you doing?

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:18

      Are you going no headphones? I'll go no headphones too.

   8. ASAndrew Schulz0:20

      I always go no headphones, man.

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:22

      Why is that? Why no headphones?

   10. ASAndrew Schulz0:22

       I don't know. It just... It- it locks me in, in a weird way.

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:25

       In a weird way?

   12. ASAndrew Schulz0:26

       Yeah, the headphones, I don't know, I don't feel like I'm talking to you.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:29

       Like-

   14. ASAndrew Schulz0:29

       Now, like, I feel like we're having a conversation and there's just the microphone in the way.

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:33

       Okay.

   16. ASAndrew Schulz0:33

       But this feels like it's on the phone.

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:35

       Yeah, I noticed on your show, you never do headphones-

   18. ASAndrew Schulz0:38

       No.

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:38

       ... on any of your podcasts.

   20. ASAndrew Schulz0:39

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:39

       No headphones.

   22. ASAndrew Schulz0:40

       Never.

   23. JRJoe Rogan0:40

       Okay.

   24. ASAndrew Schulz0:41

       It is what it is.

   25. JRJoe Rogan0:41

       Okay. Dude, your show is fucking badass.

   26. ASAndrew Schulz0:44

       Mm.

   27. JRJoe Rogan0:44

       That Netflix show is very, very good.

   28. ASAndrew Schulz0:47

       Did you watch it?

   29. JRJoe Rogan0:47

       You are... Yes, I did.

   30. ASAndrew Schulz0:49

       Let's go.
2. 2:18 – 4:49

   Finding formats that work: Instagram live experiments & Bill Maher inspiration

   1. ASAndrew Schulz2:18

      And then it happened. We tried a few things that didn't work exactly and then-

   2. JRJoe Rogan2:23

      What'd you try that didn't work?

   3. ASAndrew Schulz2:24

      ... we did uh... We did one thing that did work, we did like a talent show on Instagram Live.

   4. JRJoe Rogan2:29

      (laughs)

   5. ASAndrew Schulz2:29

      And that was sick. It was just Corona's Got Talent and Corona Beer sponsored it, so it looked kind of cool.

   6. JRJoe Rogan2:34

      Really?

   7. ASAndrew Schulz2:34

      Yeah, they just were like, "Yo, can we send you beers, like Coronas, because nobody is buying Coronas?" We're like, "Fuck yeah, this is crazy." (laughs)

   8. JRJoe Rogan2:39

      How ridiculous is that, that no one was buying Coronas because of Coronavirus?

   9. ASAndrew Schulz2:44

      I know.

   10. JRJoe Rogan2:44

       That is so dumb.

   11. ASAndrew Schulz2:45

       I know, it was wild. So we did... That was cool. Then we did like... I was just doing like straight to the camera stuff and it was like, um, kind of like long form, almost like talking to people but it wasn't like comedic. It was more just like, "Hey, this is what's going on." You know? But for me I was like, I want to be... I want to be funny in what I do, you know? Like we have the podcast where we get to joke around and that's longer form but like if we're going to create something, like a piece of content, I want it to be funny. And then it was Bill Maher actually inspired it.

   12. JRJoe Rogan3:13

       Really?

   13. ASAndrew Schulz3:13

       Yeah, that snarky fuck.

   14. JRJoe Rogan3:16

       (laughs)

   15. ASAndrew Schulz3:16

       That guy (laughs) . He's so snarky, bro.

   16. JRJoe Rogan3:20

       He's so snarky.

   17. ASAndrew Schulz3:20

       But like, remember when he did that video where like, um, he was saying why it wasn't racist to call it the Chinese virus?

   18. JRJoe Rogan3:27

       Yes.

   19. ASAndrew Schulz3:28

       And it was this great video.

   20. JRJoe Rogan3:29

       Yeah.

   21. ASAndrew Schulz3:29

       And I got sent it by like 10 different people and like all different ages were sending it to me. Like my- my fiance now's, uh, mom and dad sent it to me and like my boys were sending it to me. And I remember going, "Oh shit, like people need... People need like a s-... like a safe way of- of, uh, describing their feelings." You know what I mean? Oftentimes at comics that's kind of what we do, like we'll describe how people feel in a funny way so all of a sudden it's okay and safe. But if you just said that at work, it would be racist. You know what I mean?

   22. JRJoe Rogan4:00

       Like in what... Like what-

   23. ASAndrew Schulz4:01

       Like a... Like sometimes having an opinion is super costly, you know?

   24. JRJoe Rogan4:05

       Right. Sure.

   25. ASAndrew Schulz4:05

       So if you... So it's like... But if you can thread the needle or what we call like slice it thin, that's what we say on the show, like where you can say it in a way where it's not costly, other people will really be engaged with it because they'll be like, "Yeah, that's how I feel. It's just when I was trying to explain it, it seemed kind of sexist or it seemed kind of racist or it seemed kind of this." And it's like if you can actually get it down to like just the nuance of what the issue is, you'll get it and he just did that with that. He's like... He went through every virus-

   26. JRJoe Rogan4:30

       Yeah.

   27. ASAndrew Schulz4:30

       ... it was just named after something else.

   28. JRJoe Rogan4:31

       Yeah.

   29. ASAndrew Schulz4:31

       And then all of a sudden it was like, "Oh yeah, that's not hateful."

   30. JRJoe Rogan4:33

       Yeah, I retweeted that. I thought it was great. Yeah, he's- he's got-
3. 4:49 – 5:55

   Nuance, outrage cycles, and social media pile-ons

   1. JRJoe Rogan4:49

      And you did, yeah. It's um... What that is, is like when you're just trying to call people out on things, like trying to make things more whatever, more sexist, more homophobic, more racist than they really are. Those people that- that are doing that-

   2. ASAndrew Schulz5:03

      Mm.

   3. JRJoe Rogan5:03

      ... they need to take some hits.

   4. ASAndrew Schulz5:05

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan5:05

      Because like they ju-... Those are free shots.

   6. ASAndrew Schulz5:08

      Yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan5:08

      Like they take these free shots and there's no... Like you're really creating turmoil-

   8. ASAndrew Schulz5:13

      Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan5:13

      ... in social media with that shit.

   10. ASAndrew Schulz5:15

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan5:15

       It- it fucks people's lives up.

   12. ASAndrew Schulz5:17

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan5:17

       And the people that do it, they never get ostracized, they never get called out.

   14. ASAndrew Schulz5:21

       (laughs) Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan5:22

       People just either agree or disagree but when people just red- go ridiculous after someone for something that doesn't make any sense-

   16. ASAndrew Schulz5:29

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan5:29

       ... like this is the year for that.

   18. ASAndrew Schulz5:31

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan5:31

       Because the- the pandemic exaggerated everything. It exaggerated everybody's fears-

   20. ASAndrew Schulz5:36

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan5:36

       ... it exaggerated everybody's anger, everybody felt more helpless and a lot of times when people don't feel well, they don't... they don't look internally to try to fix themselves.

   22. ASAndrew Schulz5:47

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan5:47

       They attack-

   24. ASAndrew Schulz5:48

       Yes.

   25. JRJoe Rogan5:48

       ... things around them.

   26. ASAndrew Schulz5:49

       You're doing this to me.

   27. JRJoe Rogan5:50

       Yes, you're doing this to me.

   28. ASAndrew Schulz5:52

       Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan5:52

       You're making me angry.

   30. ASAndrew Schulz5:53

       Yeah.
4. 5:55 – 9:16

   Media narratives, white men discourse, and performative allies

   1. JRJoe Rogan5:55

      I love the... One of the videos where you, uh, posted all of the different-... titles of all these different articles about white people-

   2. ASAndrew Schulz6:04

      Oh, yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan6:04

      ... about white men-

   4. ASAndrew Schulz6:05

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan6:05

      ... being toxic, and your time is almost up, and like-

   6. ASAndrew Schulz6:08

      Yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan6:09

      That's-

   8. ASAndrew Schulz6:09

      Well, that's what we were trying to do, man, like-

   9. JRJoe Rogan6:11

      Yeah.

   10. ASAndrew Schulz6:11

       ... in that piece, we were just trying to, to talk about, like, like, not everybody that voted for Trump is racist, but they were positioned that way by the media.

   11. JRJoe Rogan6:19

       Yeah.

   12. ASAndrew Schulz6:19

       And we were just sitting there, and we're like, "What is the slice here?" Like, I don't believe that, like, I, you know-

   13. JRJoe Rogan6:26

       No.

   14. ASAndrew Schulz6:26

       And all of us have, like, a family member or friends that did. We know them. They're not racist, so why, why were they drawn to them? And we started to kinda, like, go back, and I think it was back in, like, 2016. Like, there were all these articles, and they just kind of, like, positioned... I guess it kinda, like, positioned white dudes, specifically, as, like, responsible for all the evils in the world. And I guess the people in power are gonna do the bad things.

   15. JRJoe Rogan6:49

       Yeah.

   16. ASAndrew Schulz6:49

       And if white people are in power, they're gonna do it, but I don't know if you can, like, make a blanket assessment on, like, everybody that has white skin with that.

   17. JRJoe Rogan6:55

       It's dumb.

   18. ASAndrew Schulz6:56

       It is l- it's dumb, right?

   19. JRJoe Rogan6:57

       It's just dumb.

   20. ASAndrew Schulz6:57

       So yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan6:57

       You could, you could say what it is. It's hateful. It's rude. It is actually racist. It's actually sexist.

   22. ASAndrew Schulz7:02

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan7:02

       But at the end of the day, it's just dumb.

   24. ASAndrew Schulz7:04

       Yeah, it's just dumb.

   25. JRJoe Rogan7:04

       It's, it's a d- a dumb way to describe life.

   26. ASAndrew Schulz7:07

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan7:07

       And the people that agree with it, that's, that's a real problem, is that there's a lot of lemmings out there that don't have a lot of time to sit through things-

   28. ASAndrew Schulz7:13

       Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan7:13

       ... and, and really think things out-

   30. ASAndrew Schulz7:14

       Yeah.
5. 9:16 – 12:58

   Attraction, strength stereotypes, and why ‘hot’ gets labeled ‘dumb’

   1. ASAndrew Schulz9:16

      Ha- I feel like strong women, I don't under- I don't know how we put it into, like, quotes, but, like, "strong women" are not intimidated by strong men.

   2. JRJoe Rogan9:24

      They're not, but some strong women have been burned by so many dickhead men-

   3. ASAndrew Schulz9:28

      Right.

   4. JRJoe Rogan9:28

      ... that they're just tired of men in general, and they don't have the time to s- to look for nuance.

   5. ASAndrew Schulz9:33

      Yeah.

   6. JRJoe Rogan9:34

      They don't have the time to look for, is this guy a stereotypical douchebag man-

   7. ASAndrew Schulz9:38

      Yeah, yeah, yeah.

   8. JRJoe Rogan9:38

      ... or is this guy a thoughtful guy who looks like a dickhead?

   9. ASAndrew Schulz9:42

      Right.

   10. JRJoe Rogan9:42

       You know, there's both, both those things are possible.

   11. ASAndrew Schulz9:44

       Yeah, yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan9:45

       You know?

   13. ASAndrew Schulz9:45

       So you could look like a dickhead-

   14. JRJoe Rogan9:46

       Yeah.

   15. ASAndrew Schulz9:47

       ... as long as you're sweet.

   16. JRJoe Rogan9:47

       If you're some fucking big me- meathead dude, likes to go to the gym, but you read a lot-

   17. ASAndrew Schulz9:51

       Yeah, yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan9:51

       ... and you're really interesting and you-

   19. ASAndrew Schulz9:53

       (laughs)

   20. JRJoe Rogan9:53

       ... you just like being yoked.

   21. ASAndrew Schulz9:54

       (laughs)

   22. JRJoe Rogan9:54

       That's possible.

   23. ASAndrew Schulz9:55

       You're allowed to like-

   24. JRJoe Rogan9:56

       That's possible.

   25. ASAndrew Schulz9:57

       Yo, what, what happened where dudes aren't allowed to be strong?

   26. JRJoe Rogan10:00

       (scoffs) That's not real.

   27. ASAndrew Schulz10:00

       Like, something happened where, like, if you go to the gym, you're automatically dumb.

   28. JRJoe Rogan10:04

       Yes.

   29. ASAndrew Schulz10:04

       Like, you're doing the thing-

   30. JRJoe Rogan10:05

       Yes.
6. 12:58 – 15:14

   WAP, Kegels, and the rabbit hole of ‘vaginal weightlifting’

   1. JRJoe Rogan12:58

      That song is a funny song, because if you, if that song was about hard ass dicks-

   2. ASAndrew Schulz13:03

      Mm.

   3. JRJoe Rogan13:03

      ... there is no way it would be so publicly and culturally acceptable.

   4. ASAndrew Schulz13:08

      (laughs) Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan13:08

      To talk about hard ass dicks.

   6. ASAndrew Schulz13:10

      It is cool that wetness has become their like, uh, like judging point for pussy. Like, 'cause we didn't really know what it was. You, it was tightness for a while.

   7. JRJoe Rogan13:20

      Yeah.

   8. ASAndrew Schulz13:20

      You know what I mean? But like tightness, they can't really control. But wetness-

   9. JRJoe Rogan13:24

      Sure they can.

   10. ASAndrew Schulz13:24

       You can?

   11. JRJoe Rogan13:24

       Yeah.

   12. ASAndrew Schulz13:24

       Like what? Kegeling?

   13. JRJoe Rogan13:25

       Kegels, yeah, exercises. There's competitions.

   14. ASAndrew Schulz13:28

       Have you been with loose vagina? Have you had loose vagina?

   15. JRJoe Rogan13:32

       Um, not like ridiculous.

   16. ASAndrew Schulz13:35

       That's a tough question 'cause if you admit it, it's like...

   17. JRJoe Rogan13:38

       What happens?

   18. ASAndrew Schulz13:38

       Maybe you weren't filling up that...

   19. JRJoe Rogan13:40

       Yeah, maybe, maybe you got a little dirt.

   20. ASAndrew Schulz13:40

       Exactly, yeah. (laughs)

   21. JRJoe Rogan13:42

       I mean, they, obviously, they do vary.

   22. ASAndrew Schulz13:46

       They have to vary.

   23. JRJoe Rogan13:47

       They vary.

   24. ASAndrew Schulz13:47

       They have to.

   25. JRJoe Rogan13:48

       Yeah.

   26. ASAndrew Schulz13:49

       But we don't talk about that.

   27. JRJoe Rogan13:50

       No, we don't.

   28. ASAndrew Schulz13:50

       We don't talk about volume in pussy.

   29. JRJoe Rogan13:52

       Mm-mm.

   30. ASAndrew Schulz13:52

       Like, there's just-
7. 15:14 – 20:12

   Engagement, future kids, and whether NYC can bounce back

   1. JRJoe Rogan15:14

      You're recently out the game too, right?

   2. ASAndrew Schulz15:16

      That's right, yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan15:16

      How long?

   4. ASAndrew Schulz15:17

      Uh.

   5. JRJoe Rogan15:17

      Have you done the thing yet? Like, "I do, I do"?

   6. ASAndrew Schulz15:19

      I proposed.

   7. JRJoe Rogan15:19

      Yeah, when you do the "I do, I do" thing.

   8. ASAndrew Schulz15:21

      We didn't do that. But that, to me, the proposal was the "I do".

   9. JRJoe Rogan15:23

      Right.

   10. ASAndrew Schulz15:23

       Right? Like, I don't know. I don't feel like it's any different now. For her, it might be.

   11. JRJoe Rogan15:26

       Mm-hmm.

   12. ASAndrew Schulz15:26

       But for me, I've made the commitment.

   13. JRJoe Rogan15:28

       Right, yeah.

   14. ASAndrew Schulz15:29

       Financially.

   15. JRJoe Rogan15:30

       You gonna make little Andrew Schulz?

   16. ASAndrew Schulz15:31

       Yeah, I would like to.

   17. JRJoe Rogan15:32

       Ooh.

   18. ASAndrew Schulz15:32

       That would be fire.

   19. JRJoe Rogan15:33

       Where, you gonna steal him in New York City?

   20. ASAndrew Schulz15:35

       Um, I think so. Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan15:38

       Yeah.

   22. ASAndrew Schulz15:38

       I think we're gonna see what happens to New York in like the next year.

   23. JRJoe Rogan15:41

       Well, it's gonna light on fire.

   24. ASAndrew Schulz15:42

       You think so?

   25. JRJoe Rogan15:43

       Oh yeah.

   26. ASAndrew Schulz15:43

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan15:44

       It's gonna fall apart.

   28. ASAndrew Schulz15:45

       You think?

   29. JRJoe Rogan15:45

       Yeah, the businesses are gone.

   30. ASAndrew Schulz15:47

       Yeah.
8. 20:12 – 21:34

   Lockdowns, comedy clubs, and why Texas felt freer

   1. JRJoe Rogan20:12

      I just think that the problem with New York is particularly, like, restaurants and clubs and stuff like that. Like-

   2. ASAndrew Schulz20:18

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan20:18

      Those things are not coming back. And those things-

   4. ASAndrew Schulz20:21

      Clubs could go.

   5. JRJoe Rogan20:21

      ... that have been around for a long time.

   6. ASAndrew Schulz20:23

      I'm cool with that.

   7. JRJoe Rogan20:24

      Wait, like comedy clubs?

   8. ASAndrew Schulz20:25

      No, like nightclubs.

   9. JRJoe Rogan20:26

      Nightclubs, yeah.

   10. ASAndrew Schulz20:26

       Yeah. Comedy clubs should be back. And we should, uh, I mean, we should be doing more to help the comedy clubs, honestly, man.

   11. JRJoe Rogan20:31

       They should let them open is what they should do.

   12. ASAndrew Schulz20:33

       They should let them fucking open.

   13. JRJoe Rogan20:34

       They should let people do whatever the fuck they wanna do, and that's what they do right here.

   14. ASAndrew Schulz20:38

       Mm.

   15. JRJoe Rogan20:38

       That's why I moved here. They let people do whatever the fuck they wanna do.

   16. ASAndrew Schulz20:40

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan20:41

       You, you can go to restaurants, you can go to clubs.

   18. ASAndrew Schulz20:43

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan20:43

       Chappelle and I are doing these shows. There's-

   20. ASAndrew Schulz20:45

       Amazing.

   21. JRJoe Rogan20:45

       ... 400 people outside stuffed into this amphitheater.

   22. ASAndrew Schulz20:48

       I love it.

   23. JRJoe Rogan20:48

       And they're all COVID tested.

   24. ASAndrew Schulz20:49

       I love it.

   25. JRJoe Rogan20:49

       And they're like, "Good. Sounds good. Let's do a show." You can't even do that in LA. They won't even allow you. You can't even do-

   26. ASAndrew Schulz20:54

       Yeah, LA is shut down completely, right?

   27. JRJoe Rogan20:56

       ... outdoor dining. It doesn't make any sense.

   28. ASAndrew Schulz20:57

       Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan20:57

       There's no science behind it.

   30. ASAndrew Schulz20:58

       Yeah.
9. 21:34 – 23:46

   Schulz catches COVID: Regeneron timing, lost smell, and testing boundaries

   1. ASAndrew Schulz21:34

      I was trying to get that Regeneron from you.

   2. JRJoe Rogan21:37

      You can get it from somewhere.

   3. ASAndrew Schulz21:37

      When I, when I got Corona ... Nah, when I got Corona, I hit you up. I was like, "Joe, I have ... You and Jamie-"

   4. JRJoe Rogan21:41

      You were too late though.

   5. ASAndrew Schulz21:42

      What do you mean?

   6. JRJoe Rogan21:42

      You, you, you wanna get it right at the point of infection. Like, right when you know you have it, that's when you're supposed to get on that stuff.

   7. ASAndrew Schulz21:47

      Right, right.

   8. JRJoe Rogan21:48

      Yeah.

   9. ASAndrew Schulz21:48

      Yeah.

   10. JRJoe Rogan21:48

       You were, you were like five days in when you got ahold of me.

   11. ASAndrew Schulz21:51

       I think I was a few days in and I was like freaking out 'cause it was literally right in the middle of the Netflix shoot.

   12. JRJoe Rogan21:55

       Mm-hmm.

   13. ASAndrew Schulz21:55

       We had to shut it down. And, um, and I remember going, "I need to beat this within 10 days so that we don't miss our launch date."

   14. JRJoe Rogan22:03

       Right.

   15. ASAndrew Schulz22:03

       'Cause I gotta come back and film. And I was like, "Who the fuck know, do I know that has some Regeneron?" And then I remember I texted you and I was like, "Joe," and I texted you like real, like, easy at first. I was like, "Joe, what should I do for Corona?" You know what I mean? And then you were like, "You know, take some Vitamin D, this, that and the other." I was like, "Yeah, that's cool. But what's up with that Regeneron?" And then you, next thing you text me, you're like, "I can get my hands on that if you need it." (laughs)

   16. JRJoe Rogan22:25

       The, the, the, the issue was the doctor told me it was too late.

   17. ASAndrew Schulz22:28

       Really?

   18. JRJoe Rogan22:28

       Yeah. The doctor I got ahold of said he's better-

   19. ASAndrew Schulz22:31

       Oh, that's so funny though.

   20. JRJoe Rogan22:31

       He asked me, "Your symptoms." Asked me where you're at. He goes, "Literally he's better off just doing nothing right now."

   21. ASAndrew Schulz22:35

       Yeah. It was all right. You know? It was like a have a little cold and shit.

   22. JRJoe Rogan22:37

       You still can't smell though.

   23. ASAndrew Schulz22:39

       I can't smell. I was telling you earlier, I can't smell. And I lost taste-

   24. JRJoe Rogan22:41

       At all?

   25. ASAndrew Schulz22:41

       ... for a little bit. Um, no. I can't smell at all. I realized I couldn't smell-

   26. JRJoe Rogan22:46

       Hold up.

   27. ASAndrew Schulz22:46

       Yeah?

   28. JRJoe Rogan22:47

       How about Donell Rawlings Black Ash Candle?

   29. ASAndrew Schulz22:49

       Ooh! Let me smell that.

   30. JRJoe Rogan22:50

       Mm.
10. 23:46 – 26:02

    Peptides, HGH, biohacking skepticism, and aging well

    1. ASAndrew Schulz23:46

       But you don't mind being like an experiment for these things?

    2. JRJoe Rogan23:49

       No. No.

    3. ASAndrew Schulz23:50

       You like it.

    4. JRJoe Rogan23:50

       Well, I talk to doctors.

    5. ASAndrew Schulz23:51

       Yeah.

    6. JRJoe Rogan23:52

       Like I'm not doing this like haphazardly.

    7. ASAndrew Schulz23:54

       Yeah.

    8. JRJoe Rogan23:55

       All these doctors that I talk to have already been experimenting on people for decades.

    9. ASAndrew Schulz23:58

       It's a little, it's a little haphazardly.

    10. JRJoe Rogan23:59

        Well, it's ... I get blood tests-

    11. ASAndrew Schulz24:01

        It's a little bit.

    12. JRJoe Rogan24:01

        And I ... It's like I know what I'm doing.

    13. ASAndrew Schulz24:03

        You were pitching us something earlier. It didn't even have a name, Joe.

    14. JVJamie Vernon24:06

        (laughs)

    15. JRJoe Rogan24:06

        Which, which 100%...

    16. ASAndrew Schulz24:06

        You like ... The B- the BPC Piping-

    17. JRJoe Rogan24:08

        Oh, BPC 157?

    18. ASAndrew Schulz24:09

        I don't know what this thing is.

    19. JRJoe Rogan24:09

        Yeah, it's a peptide.

    20. ASAndrew Schulz24:10

        Yeah. Of course.

    21. JRJoe Rogan24:11

        It's, it heals-

    22. ASAndrew Schulz24:11

        It's a peptide.

    23. JRJoe Rogan24:12

        Yeah. It heals people with injuries.

    24. ASAndrew Schulz24:14

        I know what ... A peptide? What is a peptide? Joe, Joe, Joe, look at me.

    25. JRJoe Rogan24:17

        (laughs)

    26. ASAndrew Schulz24:17

        I went to public school. I don't know what a peptide is.

    27. JRJoe Rogan24:19

        (laughs)

    28. ASAndrew Schulz24:19

        How the fuck do you-

    29. JRJoe Rogan24:20

        I went to public school too.

    30. ASAndrew Schulz24:21

        How the fuck do you know what a peptide is?
11. 26:02 – 29:33

    Training, bone density, and whether Rogan could still fight

    1. JRJoe Rogan26:02

       There's thymosin, there's a few different peptides, but all of them, uh, athletes like to use 'cause it accelerates healing. Do you do anything, any sports or anything? You di- I know you played basketball a little bit.

    2. ASAndrew Schulz26:11

       I was playing ball and then I kinda stopped playing ball, and then, um, I, uh, I box, kickbox a little bit.

    3. JRJoe Rogan26:17

       Oh, yeah?

    4. ASAndrew Schulz26:17

       That's what I do for like, uh, exercise. Yeah.

    5. JRJoe Rogan26:19

       Oh. That's good.

    6. ASAndrew Schulz26:19

       Yeah.

    7. JRJoe Rogan26:20

       You doing that right now? Is there, are they open in New York?

    8. ASAndrew Schulz26:22

       I kinda ... I like broke my hand a few months ago.

    9. JRJoe Rogan26:25

       How'd you do that?

    10. ASAndrew Schulz26:26

        So like ... Mm, my brother and I got into a little thing.

    11. JRJoe Rogan26:28

        You and your brother, huh?

    12. ASAndrew Schulz26:29

        Yeah. It was-

    13. JRJoe Rogan26:30

        You hit him in the forehead?

    14. ASAndrew Schulz26:32

        Uh, uh, actually the cheekbone.

    15. JRJoe Rogan26:35

        You had a, a w- a, uh, an actual donnybrook with your brother.

    16. ASAndrew Schulz26:39

        Yeah, a little b- ... And it's fucked up is because like I, you know, usually you break these knuckles.

    17. JRJoe Rogan26:43

        Yeah.

    18. ASAndrew Schulz26:44

        But, uh, I broke this one. He's huge. My brother's like 6'6", so like I think I was punching up and I just hit that part of my finger first, but he's massive. Like he could ju- just fucking destroy me if he wanted to.

    19. JRJoe Rogan26:55

        Why'd you hit him then?

    20. ASAndrew Schulz26:56

        Uh, he just hit me.

    21. JRJoe Rogan26:57

        (laughs) He hit you first?

    22. ASAndrew Schulz26:58

        Yeah.

    23. JRJoe Rogan26:58

        Wow.

    24. ASAndrew Schulz26:58

        He's got some, you know, he's like, uh, he's got some stuff going on still.

    25. JRJoe Rogan27:01

        Some issues?

    26. ASAndrew Schulz27:02

        Yeah. He's a little, he's a little schizophrenic, so like ...

    27. JRJoe Rogan27:04

        Oh, no.

    28. ASAndrew Schulz27:05

        I just walked in for my dad's birthday.

    29. JRJoe Rogan27:07

        A giant schizophrenic.

    30. ASAndrew Schulz27:08

        Yeah.
12. 29:33 – 39:34

    Fight hype as entertainment: Paul brothers, Khabib dominance, and weight cutting

    1. ASAndrew Schulz29:33

       Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, Jake is interesting, man. He is excellent-

    2. JRJoe Rogan29:37

       Dude, he's good.

    3. ASAndrew Schulz29:37

       ... at trolling.

    4. JRJoe Rogan29:38

       So is his brother.

    5. ASAndrew Schulz29:38

       Yeah.

    6. JRJoe Rogan29:39

       His brother's i- there's a, we played a video of his brother wrestling, uh, Paulo Costa.

    7. ASAndrew Schulz29:43

       Yeah, yeah.

    8. JRJoe Rogan29:44

       His brother is fucking legit.

    9. ASAndrew Schulz29:45

       I think the-

    10. JRJoe Rogan29:46

        He's a legit athlete.

    11. ASAndrew Schulz29:47

        Yeah, I think he wrestled back in the day though.

    12. JRJoe Rogan29:48

        Yeah. Yeah, he did.

    13. ASAndrew Schulz29:49

        Yeah.

    14. JRJoe Rogan29:49

        Wrestled in college. Jamie tried to shut it down, said it was like junior college.

    15. ASAndrew Schulz29:52

        (laughs)

    16. JRJoe Rogan29:52

        It was actually a real college.

    17. JVJamie Vernon29:53

        Oh.

    18. JRJoe Rogan29:54

        (laughs)

    19. ASAndrew Schulz29:55

        That's that Ohio rivalry right there.

    20. JRJoe Rogan29:56

        Little bit.

    21. ASAndrew Schulz29:57

        That's what that is.

    22. JRJoe Rogan29:58

        No, those guys... Listen, man. You gotta give credit where credit's due.

    23. ASAndrew Schulz30:00

        Yeah.

    24. JRJoe Rogan30:00

        I know those guys like to troll, but he's... Jake and his brother are both legitimate tough guys.

    25. ASAndrew Schulz30:06

        Do you-

    26. JRJoe Rogan30:06

        They're tough.

    27. ASAndrew Schulz30:07

        Do you think that you need trolling now for fight sports? Are we at a point where, like, that's the only thing that engages the casual fan?

    28. JRJoe Rogan30:15

        Well, Khabib Nurmagomedov is the biggest draw in combat sports.

    29. ASAndrew Schulz30:19

        Yeah.

    30. JRJoe Rogan30:19

        And he doesn't do any trash talk.
13. 39:34 – 1:09:42

    Mayweather vs Logan, celebrity boxing economics, and the ‘fake beard’ detour

    1. JRJoe Rogan39:34

       What do you think is gonna happen when he fights Logan Paul? How crazy is that-

    2. ASAndrew Schulz39:38

       Dude, I love-

    3. JRJoe Rogan39:39

       ... that they're doing that?

    4. ASAndrew Schulz39:39

       ... I, dude, I like Logan.

    5. JRJoe Rogan39:40

       Logan's a big kid.

    6. ASAndrew Schulz39:42

       But it, it-

    7. JRJoe Rogan39:42

       He's big.

    8. ASAndrew Schulz39:43

       ... it doesn't matter. It's like Canelo was big. They've all been big.

    9. JRJoe Rogan39:46

       But, but you know with Canelo, the, the, Floyd, one of the things he did that was really intelligent, he forced Canelo to go down to, I believe it was 152 pounds.

    10. ASAndrew Schulz39:54

        154. Oh, did they have a catch weight?

    11. JRJoe Rogan39:55

        Yeah. I think it was-

    12. ASAndrew Schulz39:56

        Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

    13. JRJoe Rogan39:57

        ... 152. And I, and I think he did that because he knew Canelo had a hard time making 154.

    14. ASAndrew Schulz40:01

        Yeah, yeah. I mean, now Canelo's at 168.

    15. JRJoe Rogan40:03

        Well, he fought 75. He knocked out Kovalev.

    16. ASAndrew Schulz40:05

        I thought that was at 168.

    17. JRJoe Rogan40:06

        No, that was the Light Heavyweight title.

    18. ASAndrew Schulz40:07

        That was the Light Heavyweight? Mm-hmm. Okay.

    19. JRJoe Rogan40:08

        Yeah.

    20. ASAndrew Schulz40:09

        Yeah, yeah, yeah.

    21. JRJoe Rogan40:09

        He knocked out Kovalev.

    22. ASAndrew Schulz40:10

        Yeah, yeah. Great left hook.

    23. JRJoe Rogan40:12

        Yeah.

    24. ASAndrew Schulz40:12

        Yeah, yeah-

    25. JRJoe Rogan40:12

        Oh, my God.

    26. ASAndrew Schulz40:13

        ... yeah, yeah, yeah. But that's-

    27. JRJoe Rogan40:13

        I mean, look at this. I mean, that's obviously not real, but still. Logan's got the size. He's a big guy.

    28. ASAndrew Schulz40:18

        It's not real, but it, it might be close.

    29. NANarrator40:21

        (laughs) Well...

    30. ASAndrew Schulz40:23

        And Floyd is tiny, but at the same time, it's like Logan's not gonna hit Floyd with any shot that he hasn't been hit with before.

Episode duration: 2:52:00