Joe Rogan Experience #1585 - Michael Kosta

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   (drumming) Joe Rogan podcast,…

   1. MKMichael Kosta0:02

      (drumming) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (instrumental music plays)

   2. JRJoe Rogan0:14

      Um, yeah, his, um, his unwillingness to make money off of it, too-

   3. MKMichael Kosta0:18

      Unbelievable.

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:19

      ... is interesting. Yeah.

   5. MKMichael Kosta0:20

      Yeah.

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:21

      Signal is, uh, uh, I, I ... You know, when- whenever someone new signs up at Signal, you get like, this notification.

   7. MKMichael Kosta0:27

      I've noticed that.

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:27

      Yeah. And so it's like flooding with all these people that I know that are now on Signal. I'm like, "Wow."

   9. MKMichael Kosta0:32

      It's, it's gotten us, me to re-evaluate privacy and everything.

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:38

       Yeah?

   11. MKMichael Kosta0:38

       You know, like what is on my phone? What, what are these ... When you go to that thing on iPhone that says, "You can use my location always or while using," it's crazy how many apps are just using your location.

   12. JRJoe Rogan0:51

       Oh, yeah. Well, what's gonna change ... Uh, by the way, this is Michael Kosta, ladies and gentlemen. We're already rolling.

   13. MKMichael Kosta0:56

       Great.

   14. JRJoe Rogan0:57

       Uh, Michael Kosta.

   15. MKMichael Kosta0:58

       Hi.

   16. JRJoe Rogan0:58

       You might know him from The Daily Show. He's also a fabulous standup comedian. I know him from The Comedy Store. Please welcome Michael Kosta.

   17. MKMichael Kosta1:03

       Yay. Thank you for having me, man. This is-

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:05

       My pleasure, brother.

   19. MKMichael Kosta1:05

       This has been a-

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:06

       My pleasure.

   21. MKMichael Kosta1:06

       ... uh, exciting highlight for me to be sitting here with you, and be on your podcast. I can't believe what this thing has become, man.

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:13

       Bizarre.

   23. MKMichael Kosta1:14

       It must be craziest for you.

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:16

       Well, what this is-

   25. MKMichael Kosta1:16

       (laughs)

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:16

       ... what's bizarre about it, it seems like it's just you and me talking.

   27. MKMichael Kosta1:20

       Yeah. Well, it is just me and you talking.

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:21

       Yeah.

   29. MKMichael Kosta1:22

       But, but I mean how many years have you been doing it? The 15-

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:26

       11.
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   (laughs) …

   1. MKMichael Kosta15:00

   2. JRJoe Rogan15:00

      (laughs)

   3. MKMichael Kosta15:00

      But, um, but I was just thinking, what talent like Chappelle can just, say, pull this off, and they, and they pull it off? I love that he just moved to Ohio outta the whole deal.

   4. JRJoe Rogan15:12

      Well, he's been in Ohio for a long time.

   5. MKMichael Kosta15:13

      As a Michigander, I'm like, "Wait, you can have a career in showbiz-"

   6. JRJoe Rogan15:16

      Yeah.

   7. MKMichael Kosta15:16

      And this is what's fascinating about what's happening right now. Wh- ... You guys can have a career in showbiz and not be in New York and LA?

   8. JRJoe Rogan15:22

      Yeah.

   9. MKMichael Kosta15:23

      Hmm.

   10. JRJoe Rogan15:23

       Well, he did it on purpose because-

   11. MKMichael Kosta15:24

       Right.

   12. JRJoe Rogan15:24

       ... he wants to be in a place where people are normal. He lives in a small town.

   13. MKMichael Kosta15:28

       (laughs)

   14. JRJoe Rogan15:28

       He knows everybody at his grocery store.

   15. MKMichael Kosta15:30

       Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan15:30

       He knows everybody at the coffee shop. And he's like a normal resident of the community.

   17. MKMichael Kosta15:35

       I love it. And he's taken a number asking for sliced turkey breast-

   18. JRJoe Rogan15:38

       Yep, normal shit.

   19. MKMichael Kosta15:38

       ... and some woman's like, "That's- (laughs) ... you want the greatest-"

   20. JRJoe Rogan15:40

       Yeah.

   21. MKMichael Kosta15:40

       "... standup comic I've ever played." (laughs)

   22. JRJoe Rogan15:42

       Ever, ever lived. He lives right down the street. He lives in a farm.

   23. MKMichael Kosta15:45

       Oh, that's great.

   24. JRJoe Rogan15:45

       Yeah, and he's a fascinating character.

   25. MKMichael Kosta15:47

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan15:47

       I love him.

   27. MKMichael Kosta15:48

       Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan15:48

       I l- I love him. I love hanging out with him. He's just so fascinating.

   29. MKMichael Kosta15:51

       Comics always say that, that know him and, and interact with him, and, uh, that's, that's awesome, you know?

   30. JRJoe Rogan15:57

       Yeah. No, he's great.
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   Right. …

   1. MKMichael Kosta30:00

      remember as a new comic, it was like silence was like the death for me.

   2. JRJoe Rogan30:02

      Right.

   3. MKMichael Kosta30:03

      And as I've gotten more comfortable on stage, hey, it's good. You got, you got 'em silent. That's good.

   4. JRJoe Rogan30:07

      Well, don't you think it's like tennis in a way? That like, the first time you ever picked up a tennis racquet, I, I imagine you were very young, right?

   5. MKMichael Kosta30:13

      Very young, yeah.

   6. JRJoe Rogan30:14

      It's... Any skill, when you first learn it, you don't know what the fuck to do.

   7. MKMichael Kosta30:18

      No.

   8. JRJoe Rogan30:18

      Your feet don't move right.

   9. MKMichael Kosta30:19

      Yup.

   10. JRJoe Rogan30:19

       Your arm doesn't swing right. Your s- I'm sure your swing isn't smooth.... it's just like anything else. It takes repetition and concentration and focus and discipline, and you gotta keep grinding over and over and over again.

   11. MKMichael Kosta30:33

       And then you get okay good, and you go play a competitive tournament, and you lose 6-0, 6-0.

   12. JRJoe Rogan30:39

       Yeah.

   13. MKMichael Kosta30:39

       I mean, there is a wonderful interview of Roger Federer talking about his first tournament, 6-0, 6-0, lost.

   14. JRJoe Rogan30:45

       Wow.

   15. MKMichael Kosta30:45

       I mean, the greatest tennis player of all time is admitting publicly, and he's, he's not ashamed of it, he shouldn't be. Oh, yeah, he goes- but then I... and he said, "But then I took something from that. I learned from that." And I've also taught tennis forever. But one of the most common mistakes people make when you teach them tennis is they run to where the ball bounces, right?

   16. JRJoe Rogan31:04

       Yeah.

   17. MKMichael Kosta31:04

       You're not gonna hit the ball there. The ball bounces, and then you, you should be further back. But the biggest mistake everyone (laughs) makes is they run directly to the ball. It sounds funny, but in every sport, you should be more or less where the ball bounces. But not in tennis. You need to have it bounce and wait for it. So, you learn just this little tiny thing like that makes the biggest difference, and then you can get better. But you fail. You fail all day long. I mean, tennis, fail. If y- you can be one of the greatest tennis players in the world, you can play 40 tournaments a year, and you lose every single week. Maybe you win a tournament, one tournament. You lose all the t- fucking time, so you better get used to that shit.

   18. JRJoe Rogan31:38

       Yeah.

   19. MKMichael Kosta31:38

       And you better be tough enough to advance through it. And I think that really helped me with comedy, because I've transitioned over to comedy, and it's like, "Oh, fuck. I failed? Am I gonna cry to myself for three days?" I want to. It feels that personal. Or do we gotta get back out there and go?

   20. JRJoe Rogan31:54

       I use y- you as an example of people that were successful in other things that understand discipline better than most stand-ups 'cause one of the things that does trouble stand-ups is that-

   21. MKMichael Kosta32:03

       (laughs)

   22. JRJoe Rogan32:03

       ... that discipline. Like, they like-

   23. MKMichael Kosta32:05

       A lot of things.

   24. JRJoe Rogan32:05

       ... doing it. They enjoy doing stand-up, but a lot of times, they wind up doing the same material over and over again-

   25. MKMichael Kosta32:10

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan32:10

       ... because it's safe and because they don't have the discipline to like, "Oh, no, no. Today, we're doing 10 minutes of new shit. Get up there, do it, write, grind, keep going."

   27. MKMichael Kosta32:19

       Yep, yep. Work ethic.

   28. JRJoe Rogan32:20

       And people that have an- a work ethic and, and an understanding of discipline from something else-

   29. MKMichael Kosta32:26

       Yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan32:26

       ... like, it transfers better into stand-up.
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   Right, right. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan45:00

      like particularly outdoor dining. That's not based on science. There's no data. They can't show, "We have overwhelming data that, you know, 50% of the transmissions are due to people eating outside."

   2. MKMichael Kosta45:09

      Right, right.

   3. JRJoe Rogan45:09

      That's not the case. So we are fortunate in LA that you have very good weather. So keep the fucking restaurants open that can open-

   4. MKMichael Kosta45:17

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan45:18

      ... outside.

   6. MKMichael Kosta45:18

      Yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan45:18

      Help them, accommodate them.

   8. MKMichael Kosta45:19

      Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan45:20

      Give them some sort of a bridge to let them get through this so that on the other side, after the vaccines and after herd immunity or whatever happens, these people will still have businesses.

   10. MKMichael Kosta45:30

       W- in, in LA were they letting people set up out on the streets?

   11. JRJoe Rogan45:34

       Yes.

   12. MKMichael Kosta45:35

       Okay, that's good.

   13. JRJoe Rogan45:36

       Yeah.

   14. MKMichael Kosta45:36

       And I didn't really-

   15. JRJoe Rogan45:36

       They did in a lot of places.

   16. MKMichael Kosta45:37

       Okay, I notic-

   17. JRJoe Rogan45:37

       Venice was really good at it.

   18. MKMichael Kosta45:38

       Okay. I noticed that here, but I feel like that here is always the case, uh, the outdoor-

   19. JRJoe Rogan45:42

       Here you can go inside.

   20. MKMichael Kosta45:44

       Right. (laughs)

   21. JRJoe Rogan45:44

       They don't give a fuck.

   22. MKMichael Kosta45:45

       In New York, I mean, they ... y- you were able to go on the street, but the problem is everybody's such a dumbass there, I was afraid to eat on the street 'cause the car's driving by, everybody's-

   23. JRJoe Rogan45:55

       Yeah.

   24. MKMichael Kosta45:55

       ... texting and drunk. They're gonna-

   25. JRJoe Rogan45:57

       Yeah.

   26. MKMichael Kosta45:57

       ... plow into people, dude.

   27. JRJoe Rogan45:58

       Oh, for sure.

   28. MKMichael Kosta45:59

       I mean, I'm, like, terrified. I'm like eating, like, is that a car? Is that a motorcycle? Yeah, I mean-

   29. JRJoe Rogan46:02

       How about when the snow comes and then people start sliding sideways and plow into a-

   30. MKMichael Kosta46:06

       E- exactly.
5. 1:00:00 – 1:08:18

   S- wh- why do…

   1. MKMichael Kosta1:00:00

      What if a river is a person? What if a mountain range is a person? Does it now have those rights? And if we harm it, can we defend it?

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:00:08

      S- wh- why do we have to make it a person?

   3. MKMichael Kosta1:00:09

      Right, why-

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:00:10

      That's what's bizarre.

   5. MKMichael Kosta1:00:11

      (laughs) Exa- exactly. But that's how fucked up it's gotten-

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:00:13

      Yeah.

   7. MKMichael Kosta1:00:13

      ... that they can't get any attention to this issue, so.

   8. JRJoe Rogan1:00:17

      Well, waste, you know. Whenever people make things, there's gonna be waste, you know. And whenever people don't have consequences for getting rid of that waste in a detrimental way, they do it.

   9. MKMichael Kosta1:00:27

      Yeah.

   10. JRJoe Rogan1:00:27

       If they can, if they can make more profit by just dumping it off somewhere, they just dump it off somewhere. All right.

   11. NANarrator1:00:33

       There's the Cleveland River fire.

   12. MKMichael Kosta1:00:34

       Oh my God.

   13. NANarrator1:00:34

       Fire all over River.

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:00:34

       Oh my God.

   15. MKMichael Kosta1:00:35

       Right, so this is the k- is this the Cuyahoga Righ- River maybe?

   16. NANarrator1:00:38

       Cuyahoga, yeah.

   17. MKMichael Kosta1:00:39

       Cuyahoga River.

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:00:39

       Oh my God!

   19. MKMichael Kosta1:00:39

       And this, this goes into, uh, Lake Eerie and-

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:00:44

       Bro, look how dark that is.

   21. MKMichael Kosta1:00:46

       Oh, dude.

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:00:47

       That sn- 1969?

   23. NANarrator1:00:48

       Mm-hmm.

   24. MKMichael Kosta1:00:49

       Oh, it was '69?

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:00:49

       Make that larger. Look how dark that smoke is.

   26. MKMichael Kosta1:00:53

       (laughs)

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:00:53

       How polluted is that? That's the water on fire.

   28. MKMichael Kosta1:00:56

       Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:00:57

       Who would've ever imagined that it would make that much smoke? That is fucking insane. The picture is crazy.

   30. MKMichael Kosta1:01:04

       And I don't know...... you know, (sighs) I don't know the pollution. I think it's agricultural ru- you know, but-

Episode duration: 3:48:21