Joe Rogan Experience #1600 - Lex Fridman

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   (drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast,…

   1. NANarrator0:02

      (drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

   2. The Joe Rogan Experience.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (instrumental music plays) Rex, I had a surprise for you, but it didn't work out.

   4. LFLex Fridman0:17

      (laughs)

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:17

      I had a suit and a tie-

   6. LFLex Fridman0:19

      Yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:19

      ... and I was gonna come in dressed like you.

   8. LFLex Fridman0:21

      Exactly.

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:21

      Full ... Yes, full on. W- white shirt, suit, tie.

   10. LFLex Fridman0:24

       Fitted?

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:25

       Yes, fitted, but the problem is my fucking shirt was at the cleaners, so then I tried to use, um ... I have, uh, some other white shirts that are, like, these really stretchy shirts that you can wear 'em if they're open, but if I'm trying to put a tie on, they literally don't fit around my neck. So I'm doing this and I'm killing myself. And then I'm like, "Well, maybe I'll leave it open."

   12. LFLex Fridman0:45

       (laughs)

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:45

       And they're, they're just ... There's certain-

   14. LFLex Fridman0:46

       Dressing up like first day of school.

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:48

       Yeah.

   16. LFLex Fridman0:48

       Damn. I, I appreciate it. It's like-

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:50

       I was-

   18. LFLex Fridman0:50

       I'm honored.

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:50

       I was gonna m- mimic you.

   20. LFLex Fridman0:52

       Yeah. Yeah, uh, do you know ... Remember Michael Malice?

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:55

       Yes.

   22. LFLex Fridman0:55

       He actually ... I did a podcast with him and he (laughs) he wore, uh, the opposite-

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:00

       Oh.

   24. LFLex Fridman1:00

       ... which is a white-

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:02

       Tie.

   26. LFLex Fridman1:02

       ... suit and a white tie and a black sh- ... I mean, he is a sort of the epitome of the loving kind of troll.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:10

       Yes.

   28. LFLex Fridman1:10

       That's like the ultimate troll. He, he wore the exact opposite. He got the exact same haircut as me-

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:15

       (laughs)

   30. LFLex Fridman1:15

       ... which I don't even know what that means exactly.
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   Yeah. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan15:00

      they need tax revenue.

   2. LFLex Fridman15:01

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan15:01

      If they're not getting tax revenue, how are they gonna feed the military industrial complex? How are they gonna feed all their businesses? How are they gonna feed the pharmaceutical industry? Like, what i- we ... All these people that finance their campaigns and all these banks that pay for them to speak after they get out of office, where's the money coming from now if there's no economy? I don't think that ... I think that's, like, one of them doom and gloom QAnon type deals-

   4. LFLex Fridman15:24

      Right. Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan15:24

      ... where people are thinking, like, this is ... They want to tr- kill half the population and, you know?

   6. LFLex Fridman15:28

      Yeah. No, I agree with you. Uh, everything you said incentive wise, it makes sense. I was really confused why we haven't done, for example, mass scale testing of everybody, which seemed like, you know, the antigen tests, which can be under a dollar to manufacture, manufacture hundreds of millions of them, at home testing of everybody and do-

   7. JRJoe Rogan15:48

      Is it under a dollar?

   8. LFLex Fridman15:50

      To manufacture, yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan15:51

      Really?

   10. LFLex Fridman15:51

       Now, yeah. So you can start April or May, uh, of last year, start mass manufacture. There's no reason we can't do that and everybody starts getting tested. At the individual level, you know, the accuracy is not perfect, but at the societal level, that's one way. If you get a negative test, you're de- uh, sorry. If you get a positive test, you definitely have COVID. And so based on that, trusting the individuals, not tracking them, but trusting the individuals when they get a positive test, that they will stay home. And through that process, we woulda been able to open up the economy in the summer.

   11. JRJoe Rogan16:27

       Mm.

   12. LFLex Fridman16:27

       Like, the, uh, um, Michael, uh, Mina, I think, from Harvard is, uh ... People should go follow him on Twitter or wherever. He's been screaming about this. Like, "Why the hell is FDA getting in, in the way of this?" Uh, so the FDA doesn't like crappy at home tests. They, they want, like, expensive nice tests. But the problem with expensive nice tests, it's hard to manufacture them at mass scale. (laughs) So, there's, you know, uh, people should go read his stuff. He's an actual, he's an expert of this.

   13. JRJoe Rogan16:58

       Do the-

   14. LFLex Fridman16:58

       But-

   15. JRJoe Rogan16:58

       ... crappy at home tests have a lot of false positives?

   16. LFLex Fridman17:02

       False ... No, they have f- false negatives. So meaning-

   17. JRJoe Rogan17:06

       Oh.

   18. LFLex Fridman17:06

       ... if you get a positive, for sure you have it.

   19. JRJoe Rogan17:10

       Is that true? Because we've had guys that got false positives with the rapid antigen tests.

   20. LFLex Fridman17:16

       The rapid antigen tests?

   21. JRJoe Rogan17:17

       Yeah.

   22. LFLex Fridman17:18

       Uh, so I ... K. Everything coming out of my mouth now is kind of crappily, uh, uh-

   23. JRJoe Rogan17:25

       You need-

   24. LFLex Fridman17:25

       So you, you might be correct.

   25. JRJoe Rogan17:26

       ... you need whiskey.

   26. LFLex Fridman17:27

       I n-

   27. JRJoe Rogan17:27

       This is what you need.

   28. LFLex Fridman17:28

       I, I, I ... (laughs)

   29. JRJoe Rogan17:29

       Some Whitmyre's Texas Single Barrel. Come on, son.

   30. LFLex Fridman17:34

       All right, Joe. You wanna, you wanna drink some whiskey just to clear the mind? (cork popping)
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   You're gonna do it…

   1. LFLex Fridman30:00

      so him and I are going to do it together.

   2. JRJoe Rogan30:02

      You're gonna do it in Vegas?

   3. LFLex Fridman30:03

      Yeah.

   4. JRJoe Rogan30:04

      Oh, Jesus Christ.

   5. LFLex Fridman30:05

      And he says, but-

   6. JRJoe Rogan30:06

      So you're gonna stay for two days with him in Vegas?

   7. LFLex Fridman30:08

      Yeah. With him. But this is not, like... (laughs)

   8. JRJoe Rogan30:11

      Jamie Chan is there.

   9. LFLex Fridman30:11

      Okay.

   10. NANarrator30:12

       I feel like that's not... Like, I mean, it sounds like fun, but that's not a good idea.

   11. JRJoe Rogan30:15

       (laughs)

   12. LFLex Fridman30:15

       That's not a good idea. Trust me, man. Because you're not sleeping.

   13. JRJoe Rogan30:18

       Right.

   14. LFLex Fridman30:18

       So it's 48 hours of no sleep with David Goggins-

   15. JRJoe Rogan30:21

       Yeah.

   16. LFLex Fridman30:21

       ... like, alone. Plus, he says, "We're gonna do a bunch of other crazy shit," like, extra shit. And, uh, and then he suggested that, the kind of shit that would break me.

   17. JRJoe Rogan30:32

       Oh, boy.

   18. LFLex Fridman30:32

       And I was like, "I'll, I'll..." And I was like, "All right." But, uh, of course the-

   19. JRJoe Rogan30:36

       Have you ever thought about joining the Navy Seals?

   20. LFLex Fridman30:38

       No.

   21. JRJoe Rogan30:39

       Okay.

   22. LFLex Fridman30:39

       I do not wanna join the Navy Seals.

   23. JRJoe Rogan30:40

       (laughs) Talked into it.

   24. NANarrator30:42

       Carry the boat.

   25. JRJoe Rogan30:43

       Who's gonna carry the boat?

   26. LFLex Fridman30:44

       I think I want... I wanna be in the boat. I don't wanna carry the boat. But that said, I... Listen, it's, it's all fun. It's pretty easy. 48 miles is rough, but it's like-

   27. JRJoe Rogan30:55

       That's why you can't learn that machine.

   28. LFLex Fridman30:57

       What do you mean?

   29. JRJoe Rogan30:58

       ... that electronic music machine.

   30. LFLex Fridman31:00

       Yeah.
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   Oh, I think he'd…

   1. LFLex Fridman45:00

      in MMA. I don't know how good his English is developed in terms of being, like, philosophical for three hours in a podcast or, like, thoughtful about life.

   2. JRJoe Rogan45:07

      Oh, I think he'd be fine. I think he'd be fine.

   3. LFLex Fridman45:09

      Yeah.

   4. JRJoe Rogan45:09

      I think he, he can... You know, I've, I've seen him speak in interviews. I think he's fine.

   5. LFLex Fridman45:13

      Yeah.

   6. JRJoe Rogan45:14

      Yeah.

   7. LFLex Fridman45:14

      Khabib, if you need a translator, my Russian's pretty good. (laughs)

   8. JRJoe Rogan45:17

      We got, we got ourselves a Russian right here. I mean, dude, I had Yoel Romero on-

   9. LFLex Fridman45:20

      Yeah, that was incredible.

   10. JRJoe Rogan45:21

       ... with Joey Diaz.

   11. LFLex Fridman45:22

       With Joey Diaz.

   12. JRJoe Rogan45:23

       Yeah.

   13. LFLex Fridman45:23

       That, that worked out... That was incredible because, uh, his English is, well, uh, pretty good still.

   14. JRJoe Rogan45:29

       Not bad.

   15. LFLex Fridman45:30

       He can still talk. Uh, and, uh, Joey adding the stories, that's a fascinating coupling. That's, like-

   16. JRJoe Rogan45:36

       Yeah.

   17. LFLex Fridman45:36

       ... one of my favorite conversations, the going back and forth, the-

   18. JRJoe Rogan45:39

       Very interesting.

   19. LFLex Fridman45:39

       It's music.

   20. JRJoe Rogan45:40

       Yeah. Well, you know, they, they know so much about that Cuban culture too. It's... They know so much about, uh, each other.

   21. LFLex Fridman45:47

       Yeah, that's, that's... I think about the translation. He, he did it masterfully, obviously.

   22. JRJoe Rogan45:51

       He really did. Yeah.

   23. LFLex Fridman45:52

       Uh-

   24. JRJoe Rogan45:52

       No, Joey speaks fluent.

   25. LFLex Fridman45:54

       Right. Oh, well, both, both languages-

   26. JRJoe Rogan45:57

       Yeah.

   27. LFLex Fridman45:57

       ... you're talking about? Yeah. Yeah, I think about that with, uh, obviously Russian. So I have the unique possibility to speak somewhat English (laughs) and, uh, Ru- Russian pretty well. It's like, "Who can I be a Joey Diaz for?"

   28. JRJoe Rogan46:12

       Khabib.

   29. LFLex Fridman46:13

       I think... Well, I could... Khabib is already pretty, pretty good. Oh, yeah. I mean, here, let me do the, the pitch. "Hi, Khabib. Um, if you ever wanna come on The Joe Rogan Experience-"

   30. JRJoe Rogan46:22

       (laughs)
5. 1:00:00 – 1:14:58

   Yeah. …

   1. LFLex Fridman1:00:00

      Like, that's why I think people that immigrate to this country can appreciate even further, to be honest, 'cause it's like-

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:00:07

      Yeah.

   3. LFLex Fridman1:00:07

      ... it can be really shitty elsewhere. Uh, another way to do that is just by studying history is like-

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:00:13

      That's too much work.

   5. LFLex Fridman1:00:14

      Too much work.

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:00:15

      (laughs)

   7. LFLex Fridman1:00:16

      (laughs)

   8. JRJoe Rogan1:00:16

      But, yeah, I mean, coming from Russia, I mean-

   9. LFLex Fridman1:00:18

      Yeah.

   10. JRJoe Rogan1:00:18

       ... the m- the difference in the freedom here versus there is...

   11. LFLex Fridman1:00:22

       Yeah, it's, uh, I mean, there's beautiful things about Russia too, like the, this, culturally speaking in, in terms of just, like, in the struggle of the w- I would say it came from the wars, the, the music, the art, the poetry, the writing, the science that came from the World War that impacted Russia way more than it did, uh, the United States, the World War II. I mean, tens of millions of people died. China, Russia, Europe obviously just they had to, uh, for a century struggle with the biggest existential questions of like good and evil, of, of losing most of your family to unjust slaughter or starvation in Ukraine in the 1930s. Like I mentioned before, my, my, my grandmother survived the, uh, w- something that people don't talk about. They say that Hitler is evil and so on. They don't often highlight-

   12. JRJoe Rogan1:01:16

       Stalin.

   13. LFLex Fridman1:01:17

       ... the evil of Stalin. There's not enough talk about just this, the fact that he imposed, uh, just-... things on the people without any consideration of the suffering that that causes, so millions of people dar- uh, die from starvation.

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:01:33

       Starvation, cannibalism.

   15. LFLex Fridman1:01:35

       Cannibalism.

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:01:35

       People were eating their children.

   17. LFLex Fridman1:01:37

       Yeah, it's crazy. It's, uh-

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:01:38

       Yeah, if you read the depictions of it, you, it ... I- I've read some stuff that I, I, I couldn't continue, I couldn't finish 'cause it's so horrific.

   19. LFLex Fridman1:01:47

       You know, um, you should have Dan Carlin back on the podcast, by the way.

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:01:51

       I would love to.

   21. LFLex Fridman1:01:51

       But I've been s- and you, he, he's been, uh, he's like a ... I don't know. I don't know what's a good metaphor but he released an episode now, like, once every year and it's always like an exci- it's like Christmas or whatever, uh, as, as a Jew, I, I feel weird saying that.

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:02:04

       What is he doing most of the time now?

   23. LFLex Fridman1:02:07

       Working on the podcast.

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:02:09

       So he releases this one episode once a year?

   25. LFLex Fridman1:02:11

       Well, he doesn't ... So he released, I wanna say three or four episodes this year, so it's been a productive year.

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:02:18

       In tw- you mean 2020, right? Not 2021, right?

   27. LFLex Fridman1:02:20

       2020, sorry, I apologize, 2020.

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:02:21

       Isn't that crazy?

   29. LFLex Fridman1:02:22

       Yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:02:22

       What we do is not what he does.

Episode duration: 3:11:46