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Burrito suits, Matrix cosplay, and the future of movie theaters
- NANarrator
(drumbeats) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.
The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day.
- BRBrian Redban
(Upbeat music plays) Oh, hello, Joseph. Hello, Joseph. Nice outfit you're wearing.
- JRJoe Rogan
Hey, awesome outfit for you.
- BRBrian Redban
Yeah, we're burritos.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- BRBrian Redban
And, uh, Jamie's in the Matrix. Jamie, what are you-
- JRJoe Rogan
Look at that.
- BRBrian Redban
That is preposterous. Show 'em the pants. It's a full thing.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, yeah. Awesome.
- BRBrian Redban
Where would, where was one get something like this?
- JRJoe Rogan
Uh, the internet. What do you mean?
- BRBrian Redban
Oh, must be.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BRBrian Redban
You didn't go to a store and shop?
- JRJoe Rogan
No, no, no.
- BRBrian Redban
What's the company?
- JRJoe Rogan
Uh, it's called Dumb Good.
- BRBrian Redban
But isn't it supposed to have numbers? Is it... Does it have numbers?
- JRJoe Rogan
It does, yeah.
- BRBrian Redban
Oh, those are numbers?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, I mean, if you look close, you can see it.
- BRBrian Redban
Oh, okay. 'Cause it looks-
- JRJoe Rogan
And it's, like, officially licensed, I think.
- BRBrian Redban
Ooh.
- JRJoe Rogan
Hey, you know what I mean?
- BRBrian Redban
Ooh, official.
- JRJoe Rogan
Official. They just pushed that movie back, the s- the new one.
- BRBrian Redban
They push everything back. They're pushing the James Bond one back forever, 'cause they think that theaters are coming back.
- JRJoe Rogan
No.
- 1:09 – 2:30
Movie-theater safety, guns, and how COVID changed mass-shooting dynamics
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- BRBrian Redban
... hear people on their phones and see people texting, the, the light flashes in front of you. And, yeah, all the weirdness of movie theaters. You know, I have a friend who always brings a gun to the movie theater.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- BRBrian Redban
I go, "Really?" He goes, "Yeah." He goes, "That one time that it happened in Colorado," I'm like, "Fuck that. That's never happening to me again." Like, think about how many times people go to the movies and how rarely people get shot at the movie theater.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BRBrian Redban
It's like one of the safest places in the w- but that one time, it's just like, he just keeps a gun everywhere.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's funny, after that last shooting, uh, you know how you make reservations on, in a movie theater, how, uh, you can pick your seats?
- BRBrian Redban
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
Uh, I noticed the next day, I went to that, uh, a theater near t- near the theater that there was a shooting, and I looked at the reservations, and it was all around the exits. Like (laughs) everything's to the middle. (laughs)
- BRBrian Redban
God, that's so weird. It's so... But there hasn't been any mass shootings since COVID.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- BRBrian Redban
Right?
- JRJoe Rogan
Uh...
- BRBrian Redban
Have there?
- JRJoe Rogan
No, there hasn't.
- BRBrian Redban
Well, it's a mass shooting, right? More than two people.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, that's not a mass shooting. Yeah, I was gonna ask.
- BRBrian Redban
Right? Yeah, there, but there hasn't been like school shootings, like the big ones. There hasn't been like, what... Has there?
- JRJoe Rogan
I don't think so.
- BRBrian Redban
The, the problem is we get so numb to it.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, but it-
- BRBrian Redban
Like, it might've happened in-
- JRJoe Rogan
They may not have announced it.
- BRBrian Redban
Yeah. Oh, salute. Cheers.
- JRJoe Rogan
Sorry.
- BRBrian Redban
Cheers. (glasses clink) Adult beverages.
- JRJoe Rogan
What is this? Still Austin?
- BRBrian Redban
Some whiskey. (swallows) Whoa.
- JRJoe Rogan
Ah, sh-
- 2:30 – 5:39
Moving to Austin by Tesla: charging strategy, autopilot fatigue, and a near-miss
- BRBrian Redban
(clears throat) So, uh, how's it been moving here, buddy?
- JRJoe Rogan
It's great, man. Uh, took the trip, uh, had the car drive me the whole way here, which was interesting.
- BRBrian Redban
Oh, did it do that?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, I had to take the... You know, driving a Tesla from Los Angeles to Austin, and that's an experience, because you have to charge.
- BRBrian Redban
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
You know, and it, it takes a lot longer, but it's-
- BRBrian Redban
Does it get hairy? Like when you, like, look at your mileage and you try to figure out where the supercharger is?
- JRJoe Rogan
No, it's pretty nice, because it does, it does route it, it's, you know, it tells you, like, "Hey, you better go here. You know, you'll have so and so much time left." Uh, there was one time where I got a little nervous, uh, just because there was a big traffic jam and stuff, but-
- BRBrian Redban
What's the lowest you ever got battery down to?
- JRJoe Rogan
Uh, I think, like, nothing crazy, like five, 10%, no, 10%, something like that.
- BRBrian Redban
Oh, okay. That's not bad.
- JRJoe Rogan
But driving the whole way there, and ha- it drove the whole way here, and that was so much easier. I, the first night, I drove 20 hours straight, because I wasn't driving.
- BRBrian Redban
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
It was driving. I was just bored. I went through every single podcast. I, you know, like-
- BRBrian Redban
You drove 20 hours straight? How did you stay awake?
- JRJoe Rogan
Uh, a lot of coffee, a lot of Red Bull. Uh-
- BRBrian Redban
You didn't take like modaf- what is that stuff? Is it Provigil?
- JRJoe Rogan
Same.
- BRBrian Redban
Is that modafinil?
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- BRBrian Redban
Yeah. I always conf- confuse that with Viagra. W- which, what's that?
- JRJoe Rogan
That's a different time of the day.
- BRBrian Redban
What is the... (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) What happens when you take two of them together? You need to stay up. They keep you up.
- BRBrian Redban
Hey. What is the Viagra stuff called?
- JRJoe Rogan
V- Provigil? No.
- NANarrator
Viagra. Viagra is viagra.
- BRBrian Redban
No, but... No, no, but it's a-
- JRJoe Rogan
Provigil and modafinil is the... Or like what's the real version? What's the real name? Oh, um-
- BRBrian Redban
Yeah, there's a thing. It's like sildafinil or something like that. There's like a-
- 5:39 – 11:46
Tesla obsession corner: refresh rumors, supercharger dominance, and weird conversions
- JRJoe Rogan
There's a really cool website called, uh, Wham Bam Tesla Cam or something like that. And it's just ... It, it's such a great idea. It's just people sending all their Tesla cam videos of all the accidents and stuff. And it's amazing. Some of the videos you watch, like, you're so safe in a Tesla, especially the X, you know? It, it-
- BRBrian Redban
Is that the best one for safety?
- JRJoe Rogan
I think so. I think because it's just so big and heavy.
- BRBrian Redban
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
Did you see the, uh, there was some pictures that came out today of the new S?
- BRBrian Redban
No.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, God. It's so sexy.
- BRBrian Redban
Came out today?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BRBrian Redban
Is it the plaid one?
- JRJoe Rogan
The, the pictures, like some spy cam pictures came out today.
- BRBrian Redban
Oh.
- JRJoe Rogan
And, and the new design looks so amazing.
- BRBrian Redban
Is it the plaid one?
- JRJoe Rogan
Uh, they don't know yet because, uh, supposedly there was plaid and a new, uh, refresh of the X and the S.
- BRBrian Redban
Oh.
- JRJoe Rogan
And, uh, it might be the plaid or it might be the new refresh, but they've stopped production of the X and the S for like 14 days, and supposedly, uh, they're gonna see a refresh on both of them.
- BRBrian Redban
Oh.
- JRJoe Rogan
A lot of people are thinking the X is gonna take away the doors and, and, uh, you know, the falcon wing doors.
- BRBrian Redban
Yeah. But those are dope.
- JRJoe Rogan
They're so great.
- BRBrian Redban
They shouldn't take that away.
- JRJoe Rogan
I love it.
- BRBrian Redban
Did you ... Were you there when Tiffany Haddish had it dancing in the parking lot of the car store?
- JRJoe Rogan
That's why I bought my car, you know that.
- BRBrian Redban
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
That happened that night. I went home, I'm like, "I'm getting one."
- BRBrian Redban
Oh.
- JRJoe Rogan
I was ... And I did my dumb shit where I was drunk and I'm like, "Uh, I'm just gonna get a loan," and then I bought it that night.
- BRBrian Redban
(laughs)
- 11:46 – 18:07
Space-blanket heat, sauna suits, and weight-loss gimmicks
- BRBrian Redban
Bro, my legs are sweating so hard.
- JRJoe Rogan
No, this is hot as hell.
- BRBrian Redban
It's ... I'm sweating. This is ... Well, this is, like, the same material that they use when people, like, are freezing in the woods.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. (laughs)
- BRBrian Redban
Where you, like, you wrap yourself in a blanket. It's crazy how much my legs are sweating because my legs are, like ... I took my pants off, so-
- JRJoe Rogan
It's like a sauna suit.
- BRBrian Redban
It is like a sauna suit.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BRBrian Redban
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Keep it up.
- BRBrian Redban
There you go. I'm gonna lose some weight today.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- BRBrian Redban
I'm gonna get tight and, and, in shape. That sauna suit thing is weird 'cause, like, um, I see people working out in 'em. I'm like, "You know that's just water." Right?
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- BRBrian Redban
Like, what are you doing?
- JRJoe Rogan
And it's dangerous, right? Like-
- BRBrian Redban
It's not good. It's good to sit in a sauna. I don't necessarily think it's good to run in a rubber suit. It's like, like, doesn't your body need to fucking cool off? Like-
- JRJoe Rogan
That's why you're losing all the water weight 'cause it's cool. (laughs)
- BRBrian Redban
Yeah. It's, it's, it's weird. Like, people just wanna get on the scale and see a number. "Oh, look." That's the other thing, like, those, um, those waist things that people wear, those waist slimmers. Like, what are you doing? Are you just lying to yourself?
- JRJoe Rogan
They make 'em for guys.
- BRBrian Redban
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
I, I almost bought it 'cause I was like, "Let's see how this goes." But I was like, "I'm not buying that stupid thing." It's like a sauna vest, it said.
- BRBrian Redban
They'll find you. They'll find you in Target's stupid ads your way.
- JRJoe Rogan
I was like, "What is this?"
- BRBrian Redban
Like, "This guy's dumb. He's dumb and weak."
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- BRBrian Redban
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, God. I hate those Target ads.
- BRBrian Redban
It's a thing where, like, people that don't ... You know, they don't wanna do the whole ... Look, it's fucking hard to lose weight. Everybody knows it, and so if someone can come along and they offer you some sort of a, a fix, like a, a, a suck weight belt, you know. You're like, "Does it work? Does it work?" If there was something that worked, that actually could make you slimmer, fuck, man.
- JRJoe Rogan
Have you seen Whitney using that thing that she puts on her ass for it's like these giant ... It looks like it, uh, thing to shock someone awake when they're dead.
- 18:07 – 19:18
Austin comedy ecosystem: Kill Tony reset, new band, and who’s relocating
- BRBrian Redban
Yeah, I'm gonna s- ... I'm s- ... My shirt is already soaked. It's not good. So how has, uh, been doing Kill Tony here? You're doing it at Antone's, right?
- JRJoe Rogan
It's great man. Antone's is an amazing place.
- BRBrian Redban
Sweet place.
- JRJoe Rogan
I, I love that place. It's got a lot of history.
- BRBrian Redban
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
You know, we ... Me and Tony pretty much-
- BRBrian Redban
No, that's the new one.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, that is?
- BRBrian Redban
Yeah, yeah. Antone's in general has history, but that Antone's is a fairly-
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh.
- BRBrian Redban
... new location apparently.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, I didn't know that.
- BRBrian Redban
I didn't know that either.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, I mean, the, the, the venue is amazing. Uh, you know, me and Tony have actually reset the whole entire show, you know, because, uh, the band didn't wanna move out or they couldn't move out, you know. Jeremiah is about to have a baby and stuff like that and so we got a whole new band. We got Gary Clark Jr.'s band, you know, which is just-
- BRBrian Redban
Really?
- JRJoe Rogan
... like, they're a legit band, you know. (laughs) Like-
- BRBrian Redban
Wow.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. It's-
- BRBrian Redban
Those guys ... And those guys already all got COVID.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Oh, did they?
- BRBrian Redban
So they're not worried about shit.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, that, that makes a lot of sense. (laughs)
- BRBrian Redban
So they're not worried about shit.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BRBrian Redban
They got COVID when Jaime and I went to see Gary perform. Jamie and I went to see Gary perform with Suzanne from Honey Honey and, uh, Tony, and Tony got COVID.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- BRBrian Redban
Everybody got COVID but me.
- JRJoe Rogan
And me. (laughs)
- BRBrian Redban
Yeah. And, well, I was not ... You weren't there that night though.
- JRJoe Rogan
I know but-
- 19:18 – 24:14
COVID immunity theories, variants, Wuhan reopening, and the lab-leak argument
- BRBrian Redban
How do you think you're not getting it?
- JRJoe Rogan
Uh, I don't know if it's all the stuff you've been telling me to take like, you know, I've been taking everything from zinc to t- turmeric or-
- BRBrian Redban
Quercetin.
- JRJoe Rogan
... vitamin D, quercetin and-
- BRBrian Redban
Yeah. Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... uh, I don't know, man. It's-
- BRBrian Redban
It has to have something to do with it.
- JRJoe Rogan
I think that ... Because I've been around, like we did a podcast once where it was me, Brian Holtzmann, and one of the guys had COVID right across from us, and the next day, he g- got super sick, so he had it while w- we were all together in this locked small room.
- BRBrian Redban
And Holtzmann didn't get it?
- JRJoe Rogan
None of us got it.
- BRBrian Redban
D- Is Holtzmann on the vitamins too?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, yeah.
- BRBrian Redban
Really?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BRBrian Redban
Hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
So it makes me wonder if, uh ... Or that, if it's just you ... just some people are immune to it more than others.
- BRBrian Redban
Well, they do say that some people who've gotten colds, you know, like if you got colds and you develop immunity to coronavirus, it might, in some way, protect you from this coronavirus. They also think there's s- some sort of variability that has to do ... A lot of it is just guesswork, right? They think there's some variability with blood type. They think that, like, O positive blood ... What blood type are you, do you know?
- JRJoe Rogan
I don't know. I'm the one that ... Anyone can take, I think.
- BRBrian Redban
I think that's O positive.
- JRJoe Rogan
O positive, yeah.
- BRBrian Redban
I think that's it, right? Is that it?
- NANarrator
Mm-hmm.
- BRBrian Redban
I don't know.
- NANarrator
Yeah.
- BRBrian Redban
I think that's it.
- JRJoe Rogan
I thought it was smoking for a while, you know.
- BRBrian Redban
That's the-
- JRJoe Rogan
But then Dave Chappelle got it. (laughs) And we're like, "Oh, I guess it's-"
- BRBrian Redban
Yeah, but Dave has no symptoms at all.
- NANarrator
O, O negative is the universal-
- 24:14 – 30:15
Post-Trump politics: Capitol riot fallout, lawsuits, and missed pardons
- JRJoe Rogan
How long do you think until Trump comes on this podcast?
- BRBrian Redban
He's not going to.
- JRJoe Rogan
You're not gonna have him on?
- BRBrian Redban
No, I don't think so. I don't think so.
- JRJoe Rogan
Even a couple of months maybe, though.
- BRBrian Redban
Eh. Hmm. Why?
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- BRBrian Redban
I- you know, he's- he's gonna try to run again, I think.
- JRJoe Rogan
You think?
- BRBrian Redban
Yeah, I think he's going to do that Patriot Party thing. That's what I think. He's gonna do something. He's gonna come up with some name for it. But Patriot Party seems right up his alley.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BRBrian Redban
Like, that seems like the kind of party that a guy who has a gold toilet would come up with. That's the name.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- BRBrian Redban
Like, I would imagine he has a gold toilet. He calls it the Patriot Party.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- BRBrian Redban
He's probably gonna do a- do his first press conference in an American flag tie.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's probably gonna do well if he does, but I don't think it's gonna go- do as well as it did last time.
- BRBrian Redban
It would have done much better if it wasn't for the Capitol Hill attack.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, he fucked himself-
- BRBrian Redban
The Capitol Hill attack sunk his battleship. I think that's a wrap.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BRBrian Redban
I think that's a wrap for him. Con- and his- his aspirations, they're n- first of all, they're never gonna let that die. They have this thing that he did that is l- it's real. It's a real thing. He really did say, "We need a show of strength. March towards the Capitol." He really did incite these people to do this. And a lot of the people that did do it, they're using him saying that as their legal defense, the people that got arrested, they say, "Trump told us to."
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, it's fucked.
- BRBrian Redban
Bro.
- JRJoe Rogan
And now he's immune to all these lawsuits. I bet he's just gonna have piles of lawsuits for him.
- BRBrian Redban
He's not immune to lawsuits, you mean.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, yeah, this one is.
- BRBrian Redban
Yeah, yeah, he's- yeah, he's- well, he's also in trouble because whatever lawsuits, he- like, he can never par- he could have never pardoned himself from the lawsuits from the state. So the state, like, all the criminal charges the state was filing against him were always gonna be possible. And New York State apparently is filing a bunch of shit against him. They're not gonna let him go, man.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-mm.
- BRBrian Redban
It's gonna be rough.
- 30:15 – 35:36
Reality-TV “exploitation,” obesity shows, and the basics of weight loss
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) I started watching this show last night. Have you seen My 1,000 Pound Sisters?
- BRBrian Redban
Oh, I... Nah.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) I... Have you talked about this a million times?
- BRBrian Redban
I can't. I can't watch that.
- JRJoe Rogan
Wow. That's, that's crack right there.
- BRBrian Redban
I can't watch that.
- JRJoe Rogan
All those shows. TLC or whatever, uh, network, they do a good job to just reel you in and just make you watch everything.
- BRBrian Redban
Good job of exploiting people.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BRBrian Redban
Hm.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BRBrian Redban
What a good job.
- JRJoe Rogan
Good. (laughs) But yeah, I highly recommend watching that show. It makes you feel so good about yourself.
- BRBrian Redban
I highly recommend you try some of this tobacco.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, this looks like good tobacco.
- BRBrian Redban
It's very good tobacco. Yeah, I don't like those shows, man. They make me feel sad. (coughs) I don't know why (coughs) but particularly people that are overweight, like, (coughs) like those people that can't move and they need, like, to fucking get cut out of their house.
- JRJoe Rogan
Hm.
- BRBrian Redban
They depress the shit out of me.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BRBrian Redban
Everything changes when you have kids, dude, 'cause you look at them as like, "That was someone's baby." Like, "That was someone's baby." This guy, he got a shit deal, you know. He got parents that just probably didn't pay attention to him or someone abused him or, you know, he got terrible habits that he developed early on or he got bullied or there's horrible things happened and now here he is just, just satisfying himself with stuffing things in his mouth all day. It's sad, you know.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. The show is pretty sad and depressing, uh, especially when you realize... 'Cause a lot, you know, a lot of those people you always wonder like, "Do they really, how much do they really eat?" And then you watch them, like, ask them, like, "How many Cokes, you know, or soda poppies do you have per day?" And they're like, "12, 14 a day." And holy shit.
- BRBrian Redban
Yeah, that's where a lot of it comes from, the sugar.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- BRBrian Redban
A lot of them are drinking it. They're drinking their, their fat on.
- JRJoe Rogan
Dude, I tell you, Liquid IV has saved my life from, you know, not having... I used to always be, like, Diet Cokes and Gatorades and Power, you know, Powerades-
- BRBrian Redban
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
... and stuff. I drink, like, three of those a day now, like...
- BRBrian Redban
Dude, the Onnit gym's not too far from here, son.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- BRBrian Redban
How about you go on down there?
- 35:36 – 43:47
Food as art: sushi mastery, foie gras, and old-school wood-fire cooking
- BRBrian Redban
know, whereas other food is like... I mean, I guess, like, sushi is disciplined, right? 'Cause of these, like, disciplined portions and the tastes are delicate and it's made per... Like, have you ever seen Jiro Dreams of Sushi?
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh yeah. So good.
- BRBrian Redban
It's amazing, right?
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- BRBrian Redban
I thought it was gonna be boring. I was like, "I'm not gonna watch a documentary on a guy who makes sushi." You cut fish, you put it on rice.... but ignorant me. Like, you watch it and you go, "Oh, okay. Well, this is like everything else." Like, making sushi is kinda like everything else. Like, there's some people that just go way past where everybody else is doing it. That's that ATX, uh, Sushi Bar ATX.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- BRBrian Redban
Whatever they call it. What is it?
- JRJoe Rogan
Uh.
- BRBrian Redban
What is the name of it? Sushi Bar ATX?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BRBrian Redban
The place out here?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BRBrian Redban
Goddamn, it was good, dude.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, I have a reservation next month. I'm freaking out, I can't wait.
- BRBrian Redban
It's so good. It's incredible. But they're artists, that's the thing. Like, that was n- becoming friends with Bourdain and watching his show... There it is. Sushi Bar.
- JRJoe Rogan
Sushi Bar.
- BRBrian Redban
Um, it made me realize, mostly watching his show really made me realize even before I became friends with him, that, um, food is an art form. I didn't think of it that way. I always just thought of it as food. Just, it tastes good. "Oh, that guy knows how to make that. Oh, that's delicious when she makes it. It's del- good food." But I didn't realize, like, "Oh, that's like..." Like, I'm n- I'm narrow minded with my view of what an art is, you know?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, especially when it comes with food. If you can make me eat something that I normally thi- think is disgusting and make me go crave it-
- BRBrian Redban
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
... that's t- amazing. When you first, uh, a long time ago, you took me to get foie gras for my first time. And I was scared-
- BRBrian Redban
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
... I was disgusted. I was like, "I'm what..." When you're like telling me how horrible it is and how... (laughs) You know what I mean?
- BRBrian Redban
It looks horrible. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Not horrible, like, what they do and, and you know, this is like me having sushi... I had sushi for my first time 10 years prior to this. You know, I'm-
- BRBrian Redban
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... yeah, I'm a new Ohio guy. And, uh, I remember you sat me down and I... You got my, me my own plate. You're like, "You want your own." I'm like, uh, I'm, uh, like, I'm thinking in my head, "I'm gonna barf. I'm gonna have to force myself to eat this." That first bite, it just melted in your mouth like butter and just-
- BRBrian Redban
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... uh, so del- I've become addicted.
- BRBrian Redban
Your body knows that liver's good for you. It's just, like, regular liver just is too weird. The texture's weird. We're just, like, we're babies when it comes to food. But you know who knows? Dogs. Have you ever eaten liver around your dog?
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- 43:47 – 47:03
Wolves stop a war: WWI ceasefire story and why humans need a common enemy
- NANarrator
I was just watching The Pa- (clears throat) The Patriot last night. Bear... Remember, wolves, we've talked about, were a issue in a couple wars, but were bears, like-
- BRBrian Redban
Oh, yeah.
- NANarrator
... they gonna... Do they have to stop fighting because the bears-
- BRBrian Redban
No, that's not real.
- NANarrator
... are fucking people up, like-
- BRBrian Redban
No. No, that's not real. Bears are- don't act in packs. See, the things that makes wolves so dangerous is they act in packs. And so, during World War I, when the Russians and the Germans literally did have a ceasefire. Now, uh, the MeatEater website actually went and researched this. 'Cause I've said it so many times irresponsibly.
- NANarrator
Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.
- BRBrian Redban
But I was told it by a legitimate historian, I believe. I'm trying to remember who told me it. I don't remember. Um, it's that goddamn tobacco.
- NANarrator
(sniffs) Gosh darn that tobacco.
- BRBrian Redban
Gosh darn that tobaccy. But, uh, it was a real thing. They really did have a ceasefire because the troops were getting torn apart by wolves. Because wolves, like, when they're hungry, man... Like, if you gotta think about y- y- there's a, you know, a few hundred guys. And how many bullets can you even fire back then?
- NANarrator
I'm looking at their website. It says, "It's become a favorite bit of barroom banter among amateur historians like the powerful Joe Rogan." (laughs)
- BRBrian Redban
(laughs)
- NANarrator
(laughs)
- BRBrian Redban
I'm not even, I'm not even a- a fucking amateur historian. I'm a maybe one day I'd like to be an amateur historian guy. So, in 1917, a dispatch from Berlin noted large packs of wolves moving into populated areas of the German Empire from the forests of Lithuania and... Look at that name. Volhynia, Volhynia. Locals hypothesized that war efforts displaced the wolves, so the canines started seeking out new hunting grounds. The hungry wolves infiltrated rural villages, attacked calves, sheep, goats, and in two cases, children. They also showed up on the front lines, feeding on the fallen and sometimes taking advantage of incap- incapacitated fighters. "Parties of Russians and German scouts met recently and were hotly engaged in a skirmish when a large pack of wolves dashed on the scene and attacked the wounded." Holy fuck. Reported a 1917 Oklahoma City Times article. Hostilities were at once suspended, and Germans and Russians instinctively attacked the pack, killing about 50 wolves. The Russian and German soldiers temporarily stopped being enemies once they found a common foe. Both sides agreed as- to a ceasefire if the wolves interrupted another battle. Isn't that hilarious? Poison, rifle, hand grenades, and even machine guns were used successfully or were successfully tried in attempts to eradicate the nuisance, according to a 1970- '17 New York Times article. But all to no avail. The wolves, nowhere to be found quite so large and powerful as in Russia, were desperate in their hunger and- and regardless of danger. As a last result, resort... God, I can't read. As a last resort, two adversaries, with the constant of their commanders, the consent of their commanders, entered into negotiations for an armistice and joined forces to overcome the wolf plague. Wow. Isn't that wild? Like, that's what people really need, right? We need a- we need aliens invading us so we come together like in a Tom Cruise movie.
- NANarrator
(laughs)
- BRBrian Redban
Like, that's what America needs right now. We need an alien invasion. That's what the wolves are, right? They're not us. They're something else. We can all decide. I like people even- even Russians that we're at war with or Germans that we're at war with, if you're on the other side. I like them more than I like wolves.
- NANarrator
What if we have an alien invasion, like, every week and we just don't know about it?
- NANarrator
(laughs)
- 47:03 – 57:43
AI and virtual worlds: Black Mirror fears, Ready Player logic, and VR time sinks
- BRBrian Redban
Well, isn't that what a virus is, man? What's a virus? You know, I know it's here.
- NANarrator
Right.
- BRBrian Redban
But it's not us. And it's a- and it's an invasion. Like, this thing... It's almost like, if one day, right? Elon Musk is terrified about artificial intelligence. Not terrified, but-
- NANarrator
He should stop making shit then (laughs) .
- BRBrian Redban
Reasonably concerned. No, I think he- he's right, you know? I think a lot of, uh, scientists are concerned about the one day. What happens if one day you get a sentient, l- you know, meaning something that can think for itself, artificial thing that decides it wants to take over the world and it wants to build other artificial things. Like, I don't know how you would get those instincts. I guess you would have to program it into it, or would it develop them eventually when it realizes... Like, if you give it- give it a certain amount of autonomy, if you gave artificial intelligence a certain amount of ability to read... Like, it's, it'll think through its mind and read the fu- like, see how the future's gonna play out if it goes about things the way it's going about things right now. "Okay, you know, I'm gonna have to change my programming and make it so the..." The best way is like, "I make more of me." Because these silly-... fucking apes with their nuclear weapons. These people are crazy and they made me. Oh, Jesus Christ. Like, they don't know what they're doing. I don't need them around. They're gonna fuck up everything. They're ruining the whole... They don't know how, how to make a better version of me. So, it would make a better version of itself and it would also develop all the instincts that all the other animals have, all the other life forms that we're aware of. When they have to survive, they develop weapons. Why do you think walruses have that bi- big ass tusk, right? Isn't that... They use that as a weapon, right? Like gorillas.
- JRJoe Rogan
Tie balloons too.
- BRBrian Redban
Gorillas have weapons. Gorillas just eat plants all day. They don't have to kill anything with their mouth. All that shit is to keep other gorillas from fucking their girl.
- NANarrator
Mm-hmm.
- BRBrian Redban
That's what that is. And I guess animals, to keep out the other animals, like... But who's gonna attack a fucking gorilla? Like, they just go to sleep on the ground, you know? (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- BRBrian Redban
You know?
- JRJoe Rogan
Artificial just needs an operating system so that it can grow, you know? Like, once it has a formula, it's gonna... That's when it's gonna start cloning itself and it's gonna start making an army. Like that, that dog that, that Elon had, that Danielle... It was chasing Danielle Rolling's dog around in the hallways of the hotel. Did you see that video?
- BRBrian Redban
I did not.
- JRJoe Rogan
Uh, but he... I guess Elon has that fake robot dog.
- BRBrian Redban
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
You know? That's the shit. You give that dog an operating system, it learns how to make itself, you know?
- NANarrator
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
And start fucking attacking anything that tries to stop it.
- BRBrian Redban
You saw that, uh, episode of Black Mirror, right?
- JRJoe Rogan
Which one?
- BRBrian Redban
Heavy Metal, where there's, there's like this drone, spoiler alert, that's chasing this lady.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yes.
- BRBrian Redban
Remember that one?
- JRJoe Rogan
I think so.
- BRBrian Redban
She's- It's...
- JRJoe Rogan
The season that's...
- BRBrian Redban
It's trying to kill her.
- JRJoe Rogan
Last season?
- BRBrian Redban
I don't remember. I haven't watched that many of those.
- JRJoe Rogan
Me neither. I've watched a couple.
- 57:43 – 1:09:44
Phones, carriers, and surveillance capitalism: folds, privacy, and ad tracking
- BRBrian Redban
Isn't it funny, like, what people thought computers were gonna be? Because you never thought it was gonna be, like, like, a brand new smartphone where you'll have, like, all these graphic things you're moving across and, like ... That's why it's so addictive, right? 'Cause we're looking at all this cool shit. And the cooler the shit is, the more addictive it is. Like, you know how they have that Samsung phone that's out now? The Galaxy S21 comes out this week, the Ultra. Has a 120 Hertz refresh rate, a giant 6.7 inch screen, and it's brighter than any screen that's ever existed. It's like the brightest smartphone screen ever and it's got a giant battery, and you look and you're like, "These motherfuckers just drawing you in. They're just drawing you in."
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, but I, I think once you go Fold, you won't go back. It's all about having an iPad outta nowhere.
- BRBrian Redban
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, I, the Galaxy Fold 2 is killing me. I love it. I've never-
- BRBrian Redban
You got it right here?
- JRJoe Rogan
No, I didn't bring it.
- BRBrian Redban
But you keep an iPhone 2.
- JRJoe Rogan
Or a iPhone ... Yeah, I keep an iPhone from '81.
- BRBrian Redban
Isn't that interesting? Isn't that interesting? Like, you're not willing-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Well, this is more for surfing. Like, "You know what?"
- BRBrian Redban
Oh, yeah. I get it.
- JRJoe Rogan
"I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna see a full screen YouTube video right now. I wanna ..."
- BRBrian Redban
Yeah, that's what it's good for, right? Like, having a second phone that goes-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BRBrian Redban
... just a media device.
- JRJoe Rogan
A baby laptop.
- BRBrian Redban
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, have you seen that new folding technology that came out that i- instead of having it fold out, it rolls out and just makes the phone bigger?
- BRBrian Redban
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
That they just showed on E3 a couple weeks ago.
- BRBrian Redban
That looks like someone's gonna break it real quick. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, no, it, it folds into this-
- BRBrian Redban
You're gonna trip and f- fall into the door-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BRBrian Redban
... and it's gonna bend in your hand like it's made outta toilet paper. If it can bend like that, it's not rigid.
- JRJoe Rogan
N- no, no.
- BRBrian Redban
Right?
- JRJoe Rogan
But the back is still, uh, uh, you know, hard.
- BRBrian Redban
Is it ... How hard is it?
- JRJoe Rogan
Look, you sh- you should look at a video. It's so hard, dude.
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