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Joe Rogan Experience #1604 - Jamar Neighbors

Jamar Neighbors is an actor and stand-up comedian.

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Jun 27, 20242h 47mWatch on YouTube ↗

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  1. 0:021:33

    Reuniting over Comedy Store memories and the meaning of getting your name on the wall

    1. JN

      (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

    2. JR

      The Joe Rogan Experience.

    3. JN

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (rock music plays)

    4. JR

      All right, we might ... Salute, my brother.

    5. JN

      Yes, sir.

    6. JR

      So good to see you.

    7. JN

      Man, you too, bro.

    8. JR

      Dawg, brings me back to The Comedy Store. Ugh. Ugh, the days. I'm gonna be- I'm gonna be, one day I'm gonna be looking back on those days and just going, "What a, what a lucky time we had there."

    9. JN

      Yeah.

    10. JR

      You know? We were so lucky. So lucky to be in that spot at that time in that moment in history. You know?

    11. JN

      Yeah. Dude, I, um, n- ... Some guy wanted me to write something about, like, s- a haunted comedy club, so, like, one of their last days that I was out there before I came out here. So I walked all the way down the street, and then I walked all the way to the, um, to The Comedy Store. And it was closed, it was shut down and it's abandoned.

    12. JR

      That is weird.

    13. JN

      It is. And I was just looking at, I was just looking at the whole place, taking it in. And I was just like, "Damn." I was like ... And I just walked off. (laughs) Like, God, I, I looked at my name, and I was up there like, "Damn, man, I worked so hard to get that shit on there."

    14. JR

      (laughs)

    15. JN

      And I just walked off. I took nothing, like, like, nothing, (laughs) like, back to go write about. And I was just like, "Damn, I worked so hard to get that. All right." (laughs) You know, like ...

    16. JR

      Yeah, getting your name up on the wall of that place is like (blows out air through teeth) ... I mean, for a comedian, it's like the, that's the stamp.

    17. JN

      Hell, yeah.

    18. JR

      You got the stamp.

  2. 1:334:01

    Why it took Jamar so long to get passed: Mitzi, showcases, and “going dirty too early”

    1. JN

      Hell, yeah. And, and they wouldn't d- and they wouldn't, (laughs) they wouldn't pass me for the longest, dude.

    2. JR

      How long?

    3. JN

      Like ... Oh, man. So I started going there at 19, and, um-

    4. JR

      When you were 19 years old?

    5. JN

      Yeah. Yeah. I've been doing comedy for, like, 17 years.

    6. JR

      What year was it when you got passed?

    7. JN

      Probably, like, 2000 and f- ... When is ... I'm trying to do the math for this. Like, 2014 maybe. Yeah.

    8. JR

      So that was, like, right when I was coming back.

    9. JN

      Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And they would, they, they would never pass ... I remember, I remember doing a showcase in front of Mitzi. (laughs) I did a showcase in front of Mitzi. This is when Mitzi came in and she was all, like, you know, much respect, but, like, the crap hit him, like, really light.

    10. JR

      Yeah. Yeah.

    11. JN

      And they sat her in the back, and everybody was like, "Oh my God, it's Mitzi. Oh my God, it's Mitzi. Oh my God, it's Mitzi." We all went up, and we all did our sets. Like, it was me, it was, uh, it was, it was Jerrod, it was Angelo Bowers, it was Josh Adame. It was, like, all of us. And then, so we all go up and do our sets and shit. And mind you, like, this is a open mic, so, um, I go up, and, um, the first joke I said, I was up there like, I was just like, "Yeah, man." I was like, I was like, I was like, I was like, "Michael Jackson could, could fuck anybody he want to. You know what I'm saying?"

    12. JR

      (laughs)

    13. JN

      I was like, I was like ... You know, before, before, before everybody's was doing th- that type of joke.

    14. JR

      Go ahead.

    15. JN

      I, I was really like, I was really like, "Michael Jackson could do whatever the fuck he want to do. Da-da-da-da-da-da-da." And then, um, and then, uh, Mitzi gets up (laughs) and walks out. Right?

    16. JR

      Oh, no.

    17. JN

      She just walks out. And then, um, I thought that my friend in back, I mean, that my friend, uh, Angelo walked her, because he went up after me. And then, uh, the next day, remember Tommy?

    18. JR

      Yeah.

    19. JN

      The next day, uh, Tommy was at the, like, "What in the fuck did you think you were doing?" And I was like, "Me?" He was ... I was like, um, uh, I was like, "I was j- I was doing my standup." I was like, "I rocked that shit." And I was at, like, "It was only four people in here." He was at the, like, "You went dirty, bro. It was only 6:00. Mitzi called you a pig." (laughs)

    20. JR

      (laughs)

    21. JN

      (laughs) And I'm so ... And I was like ... (laughs)

    22. JR

      "You went, you went dirty. It was only 6:00." Like, there's an hour-

    23. JN

      I was like-

    24. JR

      ... where you can tell non-dirty jokes.

    25. JN

      It's fucked up 'cause I was like, "I talk like this all the time." I was like, "3:00 if we're in the morning."

    26. JR

      Ah.

    27. JN

      Or like 9:00. No matter.

    28. JR

      That's hilarious.

    29. JN

      So I walked Mitzi, and that's why ... uh, that's one of the reason it took me forever to get passed.

    30. JR

      (laughs)

  3. 4:016:23

    Jealousy, development spots, and forcing stage time by any means

    1. JN

      (sighs) So, yeah. So, uh, th- then, then, then my friends started getting passed. Uh, uh, Willy Hunter and, uh, and Jerrod got passed. And I was still, I was still in the development, like, in the Belly Room. They still passed me to the Belly Room.

    2. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    3. JN

      And then, so I would work in there and stuff like that. And then, um ... And then, uh, uh, I, I would go up. Like, like, I would start coming back, and I, I went up and everything like that. And I would kill every fucking time, like, during the open mic and during, like, the, the friends and family part. And, um, a- ... I got frustrated because all my friends ... I ain't gonna lie, I got frustrated 'cause all my friends were getting passed, and I was at the, like, "Man, I'm, I'm funny as fuck too."

    4. JR

      Yeah.

    5. JN

      You know, like, like, "What the fuck?" So every time after I would, I would kill at the store, I would reach out to ... I would look at Tommy in the booth, and I'd be like, "Yo, Tommy." And I was like, "You see what I just did in here."

    6. JR

      (laughs)

    7. JN

      I was like, "You passing me this week?"

    8. JR

      (laughs)

    9. JN

      And then he'd be, like, he'd be, like, he was just laughing in the back. And I'd be like, "Okay."

    10. JR

      Oh.

    11. JN

      And I was like, "I'll be back next week, and we'll do it again." Like ... (laughs)

    12. JR

      Oh, man. When he had power over the store, that was a terrible position.

    13. JN

      Yeah.

    14. JR

      Terrible po- ... To have a, um, a insane person in charge of running the c- the greatest comedy club in the world's ever known.

    15. JN

      Yeah, man. But-

    16. JR

      (sighs) Those days.

    17. JN

      But I ... But I appreciate, I actually appreciate how hard he made it for me, though. You know what I'm saying?

    18. JR

      It just... Yeah. It, adversity makes you stronger if you do stick it out. But when you're a young comic and your friends are doing well and you're not ...

    19. JN

      Yeah.

    20. JR

      Like, I remember when I was an open mic-er, I was dirty. And, uh, the other guys that were clean started to get work as hosts in town. And I could only get, like, road gigs.

    21. JN

      Yeah.

    22. JR

      And I remember feeling so jealous. Like, "God."... why can't I get in the ... I got to go to see them, like I'd be, I'd be hanging out with them, I'd go to see them at a club and they would, they would host in front of like 300 super polite people at a really nice club. Everyone was seated and laughing at everything. And I would go to these dirty bars in New Hampshire. Yeah. And I was like- Yeah. ... "Oh my god- Yeah. ... I've taken a bad path." (laughs)

    23. JN

      Like, like, like my friends, uh, like my friends would, um, like my friends would get like shows and stuff. But like, and like, um, he was like, um ... It was like Jerrod, it was like Angelo Bowers and like all these guys 'cause they, they, like, they came, like they came on the scene, those guys came on the scene already knowing who they were. Like I, I was, I was more of like a I was still figuring it out kinda sorta and all this stuff. I like, I, I'm a lot to figure out for myself too.

    24. JR

      (laughs)

  4. 6:239:21

    Bringer shows explained: the pay-to-play trap and why it stunts growth

    1. JN

      You know what I'm saying? So I'm like, um, so I was like, "Damn man, nobody would book me." I'm like, "Man, fuck." So what I would do is I would go on Craigslist and I would, um, I would, um, I would book bringer shows, but I would never bring anybody. And that's how I would get my shows. They'd be like-

    2. JR

      (laughs)

    3. JN

      ... "Oh, are you gonna bring 15 people?" I'm like, "Yeah, I'm gonna bring 15 people." And I show up and I bring nobody, but they would still let me go up. And I was like, "All right, well this is what's gonna happen. You're not gonna bring anybody, but what you're gonna do is you're gonna go up there-"

    4. JR

      Explain a bringer show to people 'cause a lot of people don't know what a bringer show is.

    5. JN

      So bringer show is like when you're like a younger comic and you wanna do shows and stuff, there are promoters who are like, "Hey, you can do, you can do, um, you can do a show here in the Belly Room, but you have to bring 20 people." Right?

    6. JR

      Was it that many?

    7. JN

      Yeah.

    8. JR

      Is it 20?

    9. JN

      Sometimes it'd be 20, sometimes it'd be 15.

    10. JR

      But the Belly Room only seats like 80.

    11. JN

      Yeah. Yeah. And some people, it-

    12. JR

      What's the matter, Jamie?

    13. GU

      When I was doing music coming up very just like this, the place we used to play would make us sell 100 tickets to play.

    14. JR

      What?

    15. JN

      Yeah.

    16. JR

      (laughs)

    17. GU

      (laughs)

    18. JN

      And they, and, and, and, and here's how, and here's, and here's what they used to do. They used to say shit like, uh, they used to say shit like, "Listen," he was like, eh, eh, "this is comedy. Every show's a bringer show." You know what I'm saying? He was like, "You're gonna be, have to bring people for the rest of your life." You know what I'm saying? So-

    19. JR

      (laughs)

    20. JN

      And I was up there like, "Nigga, my grandma is not going to come out to every single fucking show." (laughs) Like I don't know 20 people.

    21. JR

      That's a crazy number. That's a crazy number. I'd, I, they didn't have that in Boston when I started out.

    22. JN

      Yeah.

    23. JR

      They just had open mic nights and people either came or they can't.

    24. JN

      Yeah. See, see, over there, uh, I don't, I, I haven't done, no I've done Boston like one time, but I haven't done like their scene. And, um-

    25. JR

      What'd you do out there?

    26. JN

      Uh, I did a, I did a show, uh-

    27. JR

      Did you do Laugh Boston, that club?

    28. JN

      I think it was an independent show that like Black Thought was running or some... No, no, no, no, no, that's Philly. No, no. Okay. I've never done Boston.

    29. JR

      Oh, okay.

    30. JN

      I was in Philly and Boston. All right. Yeah. But I, um, but out ... Oh fuck, I forgot what the fuck I was gonna say.

  5. 9:2111:04

    Austin scouting trip: shows, Vulcan, Kill Tony, and the gravity shift from LA

    1. JR

      What are you doing out here?

    2. JN

      Uh, so I- I'm doing shows all week. I've been doing shows all week. I, I told myself earlier I was here from the 28th through the first in December, and, uh, uh, from the 28th, December 21st, uh, to the first. And, uh, just to get a little taste of Austin.

    3. JR

      Why? You thinking about coming out here?

    4. JN

      Wink, wink.

    5. JR

      Wink, wink. (laughs)

    6. JN

      Wink, wink.

    7. JR

      Jamar.

    8. JN

      Whoa, whoa, whoa. (laughs)

    9. JR

      Come on.

    10. JN

      Austin-

    11. JR

      I'm bringing everybody out here. Let's do it.

    12. JN

      Joe, you know good as hell well, we all following you. (laughs)

    13. JR

      (laughs)

    14. JN

      You know it. Right?

    15. JR

      Listen, once I open the club, I'm gonna put the bat signal up.

    16. JN

      Yo. Yo. And then so, uh, so I said, "All right." My, my, uh, my birthday was January 25th, you know? And then so I said, "Well, you know, what are you ..." I always think at the beginning of the year, like, "What are you gonna do for your birthday?" You know? And I'm like, "Mm." I'm like, "All right. You can either go hang out with your family. Uh, you can go fuck some hoes at Jeff Ross' house."

    17. JR

      (laughs)

    18. JN

      Or, uh, or, or you could take care of your little career and uh, and uh, go to Austin and do shows for a week." And I was at the like, "All right. Well, I've done all except for one, so I'm gonna go to Austin and do shows for a week." And I just booked it and I came out here.

    19. JR

      Nice.

    20. JN

      Yeah, man.

    21. JR

      We've been doing shows at, uh, there's a place in town called Vulcan Gas Company. That's a great little spot.

    22. JN

      I did that yesterday.

    23. JR

      Oh, it's nice, right?

    24. JN

      Yeah. I love it.

    25. JR

      It's a great spot. A little weird people above you.

    26. JN

      Yeah, yeah, yeah.

    27. JR

      A little weird, but-

    28. JN

      The stage is kind of skinny too.

    29. JR

      Yeah.

    30. JN

      But-

  6. 11:0413:16

    Tony Hinchcliffe’s “Corvette Confidence” and what makes a killer roaster

    1. JN

      I lo- I love Tony. I like his, uh, like I lo- I lo- I think he, I think he's such a funny person, but I like his confidence.

    2. JR

      Oh yeah.

    3. JN

      (laughs) Like ...

    4. JR

      It's ridiculous.

    5. JN

      Like (laughs)

    6. JR

      It's ridiculous. Doesn't even make any sense.

    7. JN

      So he had that, he had that confidence like d- when we'd do the, the open mic at the Improv, like when we were like little dudes and he'd be like-

    8. JR

      Look at him. (laughs)

    9. JN

      Yeah. (laughs)

    10. JR

      Look at him with the ... That's the Undertaker's championship belt that he gave me. And of course I have to, I had to give it to Tony. Like there's no way I couldn't. Like Tony needed that in his life.

    11. JN

      Yeah.

    12. JR

      And him with the Undertaker's belt on it said, "You got to take your shirt off photo."

    13. JN

      (laughs)

    14. JR

      ... with the Undertaker's belt on. (laughs)

    15. GU

      Yo.

    16. JR

      Look at him.

    17. JN

      Yeah. Fucking Tony Hinchcliffe.

    18. JR

      (laughs)

    19. JN

      And like, and like-

    20. JR

      Best roaster in the fucking game.

    21. JN

      Yeah.

    22. JR

      That dude-

    23. JN

      Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

    24. JR

      ... he's so quick.

    25. JN

      Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's fucking... Yeah, it's fucking the truth, dude. He, um... But yet, he had that confidence in an open mic and then so, people, like when we were coming up, people would be like, people like, "Damn." Like, "How... Why... How does... How is he even feeling like that?"

    26. JR

      (laughs)

    27. JN

      Like, like, he... Like, like, "How does he even feel like that? Like, we don't even know our next joke and he's just up there like-" (laughs)

    28. JR

      Super confident. Well, you know, he drove... You know he bought that Corvette.

    29. JN

      Yeah.

    30. JR

      He started calling it Corvette Confidence.

  7. 13:1620:39

    Pandemic-era violence and LA’s confusing restrictions (including ‘no TVs outside’)

    1. JN

      Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, man. I fucking... Yeah. So thinking about moving out here, but, uh, I was telling them outside, somebody got shot outside of my Airbnb a day ago.

    2. JR

      Out here?

    3. JN

      Yeah, in front of my Airbnb, in the middle of me about to call a Uber.

    4. JR

      I wonder what like the numbers are in the country in terms of like when the pandemic started to now, like how much violence has gone up.

    5. JN

      Yeah.

    6. JR

      It probably going up a lot. A lot.

    7. JN

      Do you think it's because, uh... Do you think it's because you can get away with it more 'cause everybody wearing masks?

    8. JR

      I think there's that. I think there's also... When you have economic instability, when so many people lost their jobs-

    9. JN

      Mm-hmm.

    10. JR

      ... and so many pe- they don't know where they're going to make money, people get desperate, and then people get angry, they get evicted, they get forced out of their homes, they get l- they lose their jobs, they lose their car, their car gets repossessed, and they don't... You know, you... There's people that are being almost forced into crime-

    11. JN

      Mm-hmm.

    12. JR

      ... in this, in this time-

    13. JN

      Mm-hmm.

    14. JR

      ... that haven't been in their whole life. Like there's people that are like, you know, they're kind of maybe would be slightly inclined to do something shady, but they got a good job and they're gonna, like, keep, keep on keeping on.

    15. JN

      Yeah, yeah.

    16. JR

      But then when that job is gone-

    17. JN

      Yeah.

    18. JR

      ... and then, and then there's no money coming in, people start plotting and scheming and it's just natural.

    19. JN

      It's like-

    20. JR

      They get desperate.

    21. JN

      It's like that movie, uh... What's that Jim Carrey movie? The, uh, Fun with Dick and Jane where, uh, where they lost everything and then started-

    22. JR

      I never saw that one.

    23. JN

      Yeah, yeah. (laughs) Where they lost everything so they started going on like a crime spree and all that shit.

    24. JR

      Oh, really?

    25. JN

      Yeah, yeah.

    26. JR

      Like a Bonnie and Clyde type deal?

    27. JN

      (laughs) Yeah. So what happened... So what happened is that, like... Okay, so when, when COVID hit or whatever, everybody started getting unemployment, right?

    28. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    29. JN

      So, uh, so you're talking about like scheming and all this shit. So, um, (laughs) I went over my aunt's house and my big brother was over there and he was up to like, uh, he was up to like, "Yeah, man." He was up to like, "So, uh, so what you gonna do?" And I was like, "Uh, you know, man. I mean, you know, I might... may draw and do some art and sell that and stuff." He was up to like, "Or..." And my little brother is in prison so he's like, "Or we can get that nigga Chase social security number in there and get... and then, and then, and then, and then type that in and get his, uh, and get his unemployment."

    30. JR

      (laughs)

  8. 20:3921:51

    Outdoor comedy experiments: window sets, amphitheaters, and why clubs matter

    1. JR

      These, uh, outdoor shows are different too. It's, uh, it's weird doing an outdoor show. Like, the- the comedy, the- the laughter is great, it's fun, people are all excited, but there's an echo. You know, I never liked outdoor amphitheater shows.

    2. JN

      No?

    3. JR

      I- I've done a few of them, but they're just not as good.

    4. JN

      Like them festival shows?

    5. JR

      Yeah.

    6. JN

      Like Audible and shit?

    7. JR

      They're not as good. They're not as good. What you really wanna do is you wanna w- uh, the- the best shit is like less than f- you know, less than 500 people's really ideal.

    8. JN

      Yeah.

    9. JR

      Like the main room is ideal.

    10. JN

      Lit, yeah.

    11. JR

      Packed main room, packed OR, uh, Comedy Works in Denver.

    12. JN

      Yeah.

    13. JR

      You know, uh, Cap City in Austin when it was open, that kinda shit. Low ceiling, pow!

    14. JN

      Yeah.

    15. JR

      The laughter rocks the fucking place.

    16. JN

      Yeah.

    17. JR

      Ah!

    18. JN

      Yeah.

    19. JR

      It's wild. That's what you want.

    20. JN

      Outdoor shows, like we were doing this, uh, we were doing this one at- at a- at an amphitheater in, um, uh, off of ... Fuck, what is that? The- it's like off of 3rd Street in like, uh, in Beverly. I mean, like 3rd Street in Beverly run. Uh, like Beverly, uh, what is it? Pan Pacific Park.

    21. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    22. JN

      And, uh, they have an amphitheater out there and we were doing shows out there. People would roll up on their bikes and shit and just sit down in the amphitheater. And it was dope, you know, it reminded me of, uh, remember Charlie Barnett?

    23. JR

      Yes.

    24. JN

      The guy that-

    25. JR

      Yes. Yes.

    26. JN

      ... New York Comic.

    27. JR

      Very much so.

    28. JN

      It reminded me of doing performances like that.

    29. JR

      Yes.

  9. 21:5125:51

    Apartment Show Jammers: building a DIY ‘club’ at home during lockdown

    1. JN

      Like, where it's like ... You know, like, like, uh, so it had that vibes, you know? Or at least that, or at least that was- that was what I tried to bring to it. But, um, but it's uh ... So they weren't bad. I, for a- I, for a second was the only person doing indoor shows, like I- I- I think Tony told you I was running this show outta my apartment.

    2. JR

      Yeah. (laughs)

    3. JN

      (laughs) It was called the- it was called the Apartment Show Jammers, because- because this is wh-

    4. JR

      Didn't Tony do it?

    5. JN

      Yeah, he did do it.

    6. JR

      (laughs)

    7. JN

      You know, man-

    8. GU

      How many people did you have in there?

    9. JN

      Yo, man, it was, hey, yo, it was lit. It was like 20 people in that bitch.

    10. JR

      (laughs)

    11. JN

      Like super spreader, bro. Like ... (laughs)

    12. GU

      No testing.

    13. JN

      Hell no, hell no.

    14. GU

      (laughs)

    15. JN

      I full- I can't afford that goddamn COVID shit, like them damn tests.

    16. GU

      I get it.

    17. JN

      And all that stuff, so I was- I was giving people hand sanitizer and I provided a mask and ... 'Cause what was happening was I started it in, uh, last- last June. Like right when, um, like right when COVID hit and comics were like going crazy because we, you know, we didn't have our passion to, you know, f- fuck with or whatever. And I was like, "Damn." And I said, "You know what I'm about to do?" I said, "Fuck it." I said, uh, I said, "I'm about to go buy a, um, I'm about to go buy a stereo, I'm about to go buy a microphone and, um, I'm gonna start a comedy club in my house."

    18. JR

      (laughs)

    19. JN

      (laughs) And my sister was up there like, my sister was like, "Yeah, yeah." She was like, "I'll work the door," and this, this, and that.

    20. JR

      (laughs)

    21. JN

      And I was just like, "All right, for sure."

    22. JR

      So how did you get the people in there?

    23. JN

      Uh, (laughs) Instagram.

    24. JR

      (laughs)

    25. JN

      I was like-

    26. JR

      Really?

    27. JN

      I- I- I'd f- I put out feelers, so I was like, I was like, "All right, y'all, I'm thinking about throwing an apartment show in my house. How do I get people here?"

    28. JR

      (laughs)

    29. JN

      And then people were like, "I'll come, I'll come." People were Dming me and shit like that, and I hit up my comic friends and I was like, "Y'all trying to do some comedy?" And we did it, it was like 20 people up in that motherfucker, like ...

    30. JR

      Nobody got sick?

  10. 25:5141:57

    The weirdest gigs: bachelor parties, strip clubs, and bombing in silence

    1. JN

      Where's the weirdest place you performed?

    2. JR

      Well, I did, uh, bachelor parties with no microphone.

    3. JN

      Hm.

    4. JR

      That was rough.

    5. JN

      Hm.

    6. JR

      That was rough. Just a bunch of drunk dudes and, you know, obviously they don't have any money otherwi- ... They woulda, woulda bought a stripper.

    7. JN

      Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

    8. JR

      Hired a stripper to come.

    9. JN

      And it wasn't no stripper there?

    10. JR

      No, just me.

    11. JN

      (laughs)

    12. JR

      Those were the roughest ones. I did a Jack and Jill strip club in Rhode Island. That was the weirdest one, 'cause a Jack and Jill strip club is like ... They ... There was a time where they tried to have strip clubs where a man performs and a woman performs and couples would go.

    13. JN

      Like a, a man and a female stripper?

    14. JR

      Like a man would strip and then a female would strip, and the couple would sit there and watch both of 'em. It was so strange. And the people that went up, they looked like the type of people you would expect at this kinda place.

    15. JN

      Right.

    16. JR

      And, y- you know, and the audience, there was maybe six people in the audience. And, you know, you know how sometimes you bomb, and it's like, you know, you just ... It just feels terrible? This is ... I wa- ... I was bombing, and it felt like I was performing in front of people that didn't understand a word I was saying. I didn't get any noise.

    17. JN

      Yeah.

    18. JR

      There was nothing. It didn't even feel bad.

    19. JN

      Yeah.

    20. JR

      I was like, "What is this?"

    21. JN

      (laughs)

    22. JR

      I mean, I was, you know, young in the game anyway. I was only probably doing comedy a year and a half or so. It was ... 'Cause it was, it was a terrible gig. It was for this dude, um ... Oh, man. I'm trying to remember the guy, the booking agent's name. But he had a bunch of these weird fucking gigs in Rhode Island.

    23. JN

      Uh-huh.

    24. JR

      Like they were all, they were all real shady, like strange bars and ... You'd go to. And he'd always get paid.

    25. JN

      Yeah.

    26. JR

      But they were always very weird. And this one, there was, you know, like I said, like six people in the audience, and the type of people that you would see in an audience that would come to see a guy strip and a girl strip were very strange.

    27. JN

      Wha- wh- what would they look like?

    28. JR

      Just like older people that just didn't have any hope and just sitting there, just, just looked confused as to why they were even there.

    29. JN

      Yeah.

    30. JR

      And again, there was only six of 'em in the whole audience. And the ... But there was one dude who was ... There was a pool table in the back. There was one dude playing pool. And I came over to talk to him, and he was just a regular dude from New Jersey. And he's like, "Man, what the fuck is this place?" I go, "What are you doing here?" And he goes, "I'm in town visiting my family. I had to get out of the fucking house."

  11. 41:5755:23

    Roast Battle + The Wave: controlled chaos as the ‘palate cleanser’ for dark jokes

    1. JR

      How did you get involved in doing the roast battle shit? Because when you guys would do ... when it, when it was you and, and Jeremiah and-

    2. JN

      And Willie.

    3. JR

      ... and Willie, and you guys would act out and when it would someone would kill somebody with a roast, you guys would pile onto the stage and act out various scenarios and it made the show.

    4. JN

      Bro.

    5. JR

      It made the show.

    6. JN

      Thank you. I really appreciate that because people online was eating us up. They was up there like, "Who in the fuck are these idiots?"... keep- but I, uh-

    7. JR

      No, you can't- see, you can't read those.

    8. JN

      But, but a- s- but it wasn't about that for us. Like, we was just trying to have fun. So in the beginning stages of, uh, uh, of the Rose Battle, and shout out to Jeff for letting us do that. You know what I'm saying?

    9. JR

      Oh, yeah. It's a wild move.

    10. JN

      Yeah, it is. Um, but you, but I feel like a show like that, where you, where you're constantly spouting, like, these insults and shit like that, and a lot of them are really fucking dark, you need a palate cleanser. It don't matter. Like-

    11. JR

      That's a good way to put it.

    12. JN

      Yeah. S-

    13. JR

      That's a very good way to put it.

    14. JN

      Yeah. So, uh, so at the beginning, like, when it first started, like, the origins of it and shit, when it first started, like, me, Willie, and Jeremiah, we'd be sitting, like, just watching these motherfuckers, like, just talk shit about each other. And, oh, I, I naturally have a big laugh and whatever. It's, uh, damn near over-exaggerated and shit. And then so Jeremiah and we, we all, like, would start watching it or whatever. And then I would laugh and I would do, like, different shit. I would, like, get, like, I would, like, start dancing and shit on stage-

    15. JR

      (laughs)

    16. JN

      ... and shit like that or whatever. And then, uh, Jeremiah and them start coming in and all this stuff. And then so that shit escalated. So one time, one time, like, one week, we were like, "Hey, man, let's go to Goodwill." And, and every time, uh, and every time somebody says something funny, I was just like, "Uh, we just go up there and like, and like what, like, these different props and shit, right?" And then so, uh, yeah. (laughs)

    17. JR

      (laughs)

    18. JN

      And, and so, so then it would get, like, really fucking elaborate. We would do, like, costumes and shit like that. But it all started from just over-laughing and just, like, trying to just fuck around and kind of troll the fucking battlers kind of, sort of-

    19. JR

      Yeah.

    20. JN

      ... and the whole thing or whatever. But that's how it started. And, um, yeah, man.

    21. JR

      Did you guys get together and plan out, like, various little things that could possibly be happening if someone kills somebody? And if, and how did you know when to bring out which one?

    22. JN

      So, um, okay, so, so we would get very, uh, so we would go prop shopping.

    23. JR

      (laughs)

    24. JN

      (laughs) Some of that shit didn't make sense. But like, we would go, we would go prop shopping and shit. But, um ...

    25. JR

      Is there a video compliment- compilation of like the best of The Wave?

    26. JN

      Yeah, it is. It is.

    27. JR

      Oh, find that.

    28. JN

      There is? Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

    29. GU

      I was gonna say, there shouldn't be if there isn't.

    30. JR

      Yeah, there has to be.

  12. 55:2356:13

    Rebuilding the magic in Austin: Joe’s vision for a comic-run club with a ‘laboratory’ room

    1. JR

      Well, there's a, there's a real value in a little club like that, a tiny spot.

    2. JN

      Mm-hmm.

    3. JR

      And that's one of the things that I wanna have out here. I-

    4. JN

      Yeah.

    5. JR

      ... I wanna have a small club too.

    6. JN

      Yeah.

    7. JR

      I, I don't think you just, you should just have a big club like the Main Room. I think you need a Belly Room.

    8. JN

      Yeah.

    9. JR

      I think you need a little laboratory.

    10. JN

      Yep.

    11. JR

      You know, just to fuck around, and-

    12. JN

      Yeah.

    13. JR

      Like, it would be really hard to create a show like that or like a lot of other ... Like, Kill Tony started out in the Belly Room too.

    14. JN

      Yep, I remember that.

    15. JR

      Yeah, like, you need a laboratory.

    16. JN

      Yeah.

    17. JR

      You need a place where you're just kind of fucking around. There's lower expectations.

    18. JN

      Yeah.

    19. JR

      It's more of a hang.

    20. JN

      Yeah.

    21. JR

      When you get to a large audience, everybody's like, "Wow, this place is packed. This is a big thing."

    22. JN

      Yeah, like you do that-

    23. JR

      This is a big deal.

    24. JN

      ... small club to go do the big club.

    25. JR

      Yes.

    26. JN

      Yeah, yeah, yeah.

    27. JR

      Exactly.

    28. JN

      Yep.

    29. JR

      But (clears throat) I feel like it's like, like training. Like, you need to do running, and then you also need to hit the bag.

    30. JN

      Yep.

  13. 56:131:11:11

    Fitness as comedy prep: boxing fights, training extremes, and the mohawk wig origin story

    1. JN

      Yep. It's so funny. I remember, um, I remember, I still do, but like I, I would, um ... You speak about training and stuff like that, like, I would go to the gym for fucking, for fucking six hours, Joe, six hours every motherfucking day, bro. Uh, uh, just to mentally prepare myself for doing comedy.

    2. JR

      Six hours?

    3. JN

      Yeah, bro.

    4. JR

      What would you do for six hours?

    5. JN

      Anything I could think of. (laughs) Like-

    6. JR

      Really?

    7. JN

      ... anything I could fucking ... I accidentally learned how to box just by being in, in the gym for six hours. Like, like, like, for like, like, every fucking, um, like, every fucking day.

    8. JR

      You learned boxing by yourself?

    9. JN

      Yeah, yeah. I would take, I would take little ... I would take little ... I would see people in the gym and stuff like that. I would take-

    10. JR

      What gym were you working out at?

    11. JN

      Uh, Fortune Boxing Gym.

    12. JR

      Oh, okay.

    13. JN

      Justin Fortune.

    14. JR

      Justin Fortune, yeah.

    15. JN

      Yeah, yeah, yeah.

    16. JR

      He's legit.

    17. JN

      Yeah, I love Justin.

    18. JR

      Joey Diaz used to go there too.

    19. JN

      Yeah, yeah, all the (clears throat) yeah, all, like, you see fucking Sylvester Stallone brother in that motherfucker.

    20. JR

      Hey, yo.

    21. JN

      Like-

    22. JR

      Hey, yo.

    23. JN

      And I-

    24. JR

      I'm here to work out, yo.

    25. JN

      Just to fucking mentally prepare myself for a fucking 15-minute set at the Comedy Store (laughs) like was fucking retarded.

    26. JR

      That's good. So you just hit a fight, didn't you? Didn't you take a fight?

    27. JN

      (laughs) Yeah, I did.

    28. JR

      We talked about it before.

    29. JN

      I, I was-

    30. JR

      We talked about it. It was almost a year ago.

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