Joe Rogan Experience #1610 - Snowpacalypse with Tim Dillon

Joe Rogan 0:00 (drumbeats) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

Narrator 0:04 The Joe Rogan Experience.

Joe Rogan 0:06 Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (rock music)

Tim Dillon 0:14 Wouldn't it be cool to have like, uh, Aerosmith right now?

Joe Rogan 0:16 I'm back.

Tim Dillon 0:17 Yeah. Great.

Joe Rogan 0:18 (sings) I'm back in the saddle again.

Tim Dillon 0:23 Great. The Snowpocalypse, Tim Dillon.

Joe Rogan 0:26 (sniffs)

Tim Dillon 0:26 Hey, holding up? Did I move you out here at a bad time, do you think?

Joe Rogan 0:29 I mean, uh, we considered suing you.

Tim Dillon 0:33 (laughs)

Narrator 0:33 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 0:33 I was sitting there going, "Can I take legal action against him?" Like, I called a lawyer and apparently I cannot.

Tim Dillon 0:38 Listen, I, I'll give you free meals-

Joe Rogan 0:41 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 0:41 ... every time we go out, forever.

Joe Rogan 0:42 We were-

Tim Dillon 0:43 How about that?

Joe Rogan 0:43 I mean, I was on a bread line two days ago.

Tim Dillon 0:46 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 0:46 My opener flies into town, we're gonna fly out for shows, all the flights grounded, we can't go anywhere. I mean, we're waiting outside of a supermarket for an hour, and then we're eating fish sticks in the dark of my house with no power. And I'm like, "You know, Joe fucking Rogan, man, uh, this was a real fucking leap of faith." But it's looking better today.

Tim Dillon 1:06 It'll be fine.

Joe Rogan 1:07 It'll be fine.

Tim Dillon 1:07 Listen, it was a once in... They're calling it a once in a 120-year storm, but I think what that means is like, ever recorded. Like, you go back to 1800 is what we're talking about.

Joe Rogan 1:19 Right.

Tim Dillon 1:19 Or 1900, rather.

Joe Rogan 1:21 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 1:21 Like when... What was the... What kind of fucking instruments did they... were they using?

Joe Rogan 1:24 Yeah, what were they, what were they jotting down?

Narrator 1:26 Farmers Almanac was the big thing back in those days and-

Tim Dillon 1:28 Yeah.

Narrator 1:29 ... I don't think they have it.

Tim Dillon 1:29 How did that work?

Narrator 1:30 I don't know.

Tim Dillon 1:30 'Cause that fucking thing was apparently kinda accurate.

Narrator 1:32 I don't know.

Tim Dillon 1:33 It's kinda witchcrafty.

Joe Rogan 1:33 Yeah. It's crazy. Yeah, it's crazy.

Tim Dillon 1:35 Yeah, they would predict like next year's-

Joe Rogan 1:37 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 1:37 ... winter cycles.

Joe Rogan 1:38 Yeah, and harvests-

Tim Dillon 1:39 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:39 ... and things like that, yeah.

Tim Dillon 1:40 What did they do? How was... how did it work?

Joe Rogan 1:42 Well, it was just wild driving around Texas and seeing nothing but snow.

Narrator 1:46 Mm.

Joe Rogan 1:47 And you... L- it looked like Vermont, it looked like you were in the Northeast, but it didn't... It was like wild to be in Texas driving around and nothing was open.

Tim Dillon 1:56 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:56 So like gas stations weren't open, uh, fast food wasn't open. Nothing was open.

Tim Dillon 2:02 No.

Joe Rogan 2:02 You know?

Tim Dillon 2:03 Tell you what was open, the Houston Airport. My boy Ted Cruz is like... (laughs)

Joe Rogan 2:06 Yeah, he was out.

Tim Dillon 2:08 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:08 And by the way, isn't it sad that like he couldn't get away with it? It's like, here's the thing about the Bush family. Say what you want about them, maybe whacked Kennedy, bygones, but I mean-

Tim Dillon 2:18 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 2:18 ... now our leaders can't even get caught taking a commercial flight to Cancun. Like, that's pretty sad.

Tim Dillon 2:24 But here's the thing, like what can he do? What is the-

Joe Rogan 2:28 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 2:28 What is the reason for him staying? Is it-

Joe Rogan 2:30 Well, I think it's just the optics of how it looks.

Tim Dillon 2:32 Optics, right.

Joe Rogan 2:32 Yeah, but of course. No, he doesn't have any of-

Tim Dillon 2:35 Can he make it warm out?

Joe Rogan 2:36 No, I don't think he has any power to do anything good.

Tim Dillon 2:38 Maybe he should be there with blankets-

Joe Rogan 2:40 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 2:40 ... to put them over the pikes.

Joe Rogan 2:40 Well, it's funny, it's like the people that hate him the most are the ones that are like, "He should be there." And it's like, doing what?

Tim Dillon 2:46 Well, here's-

Joe Rogan 2:47 He has...

Tim Dillon 2:47 ... you know. Here's the thing though.

Joe Rogan 2:48 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 2:48 He was one of the vocal critics of Mayor Adler, who's a Democrat-

Joe Rogan 2:53 Right.

Tim Dillon 2:53 ... who went to Cancun as well. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 2:55 Right. (laughs) What is it? Everybody goes to Cancun?

Tim Dillon 2:58 I think he was in Cancun. Was he in Cancun or was he in, uh-

Narrator 3:01 Yeah, he did, yeah, he did a thing at the house or something like that, yeah.

Tim Dillon 3:02 ... one of those. Yes. But it was in Cancun or was it Puerto Vallarta? Well, it was one of those nice places in Mexico.

Joe Rogan 3:08 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 3:08 And he wanted... (laughs)

Joe Rogan 3:09 And he's the-

Tim Dillon 3:09 Wait.

Joe Rogan 3:09 ... mayor of Austin?

Tim Dillon 3:10 Yes. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 3:10 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 3:11 He went down there and he was saying, "Now is not the time to relax."

Joe Rogan 3:14 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 3:14 "I'm wa-"

Narrator 3:15 Cabo.

Tim Dillon 3:15 Where?

Narrator 3:15 Sorry.

Tim Dillon 3:15 Cabo.

Joe Rogan 3:16 Cabo.

Tim Dillon 3:16 There you go. Cabo. Yeah. So he went down there (laughs) wha-... I mean that's the place to relax.

Joe Rogan 3:21 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 3:21 I mean, fucking Sammy Hagar's got a song about it.

Joe Rogan 3:23 I mean...

Tim Dillon 3:25 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 3:25 It's crazy to watch. It's also crazy that he got caught and then he came back.

Tim Dillon 3:30 Well, he said, "I was always coming back."

Joe Rogan 3:33 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 3:33 "I was being a good father." Like-

Joe Rogan 3:35 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 3:35 ... so he had to put a spin on it.

Joe Rogan 3:36 Yeah, "I was dropping my fam-"

Tim Dillon 3:38 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 3:38 I feel, 'cause Ted Cruz is the face of the guy that always is caught. Like he looks like the kid-

Tim Dillon 3:43 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 3:43 ... at school who gets in on the prank too late and then the teacher catches him. Like he just looks like he gets caught. He's not, he's not one of those guys who gets away with it. No matter what happens, he doesn't get away with it.

Tim Dillon 3:54 No. He's, he's, um... Did you ever see those videos that they made where it was... I don't know who re- released the full video, but the videos that they made where he was running for president and he sat down with his mom and he's talking about-

Joe Rogan 4:08 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 4:08 ... you know, "I go to church every day." And she's like-

Joe Rogan 4:09 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 4:10 "Every day?"

Joe Rogan 4:11 Right. (laughs)

Tim Dillon 4:11 His mom threw him under the bus, she's like-

Joe Rogan 4:13 (laughs) Yeah.

Tim Dillon 4:15 Every day?"

Joe Rogan 4:15 Yeah, yeah.

Tim Dillon 4:16 His mom was like, "Bitch, you don't go to fucking church every day."

Joe Rogan 4:19 (laughs)

Tim Dillon 4:19 And it was... Like they had to retake scenes-

Joe Rogan 4:22 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 4:22 ... and it was...

Joe Rogan 4:22 Oh, y- the whole thing's a nightmare.

Tim Dillon 4:24 But they showed it.

Joe Rogan 4:25 How about somebody from the wife's group text leaked 'cause they were inviting neighbors going-

Tim Dillon 4:30 Yes.

Joe Rogan 4:30 ... "Come to fucking Cabo or wherever the hell."

Tim Dillon 4:32 Yes.

Joe Rogan 4:32 "Come to Cancun."

Tim Dillon 4:33 Yes.

Joe Rogan 4:34 And somebody leaked it to the New York Times going-

Tim Dillon 4:36 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 4:36 ... "Here's the group text proving they were inviting us all."

Tim Dillon 4:39 I wonder how many moms were in that group text.

Joe Rogan 4:41 Too many.

Tim Dillon 4:43 Yeah. There, there's the... these are the videos.

Joe Rogan 4:44 Oh, this is great.

Tim Dillon 4:45 (laughs) But these things are always gross, man. Those like sit down with your mom, let's pretend the camera's not here.

Joe Rogan 4:52 Right.

Tim Dillon 4:52 My, my mom, my mom-

Joe Rogan 4:53 Right. "Tell everyone how good I am."

Tim Dillon 4:55 "I'm a good person, right mom?"

Joe Rogan 4:56 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 4:56 "I'm a, I'm a God-fearing Christian."

Joe Rogan 4:58 "Tell everyone what a good person your son is."

Tim Dillon 5:00 My mom...

Joe Rogan 5:00 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 5:00 He was very good though. I have to give him props 'cause there was this one situation where what... What was it? It was a, a tech thing where he was... Fuck.

Joe Rogan 5:14 I don't remember.

Tim Dillon 5:15 God damn it. We talked about it on the podcast, Jamie. Do you remember what it was? Where he was, uh, calling them out for... God I ke- it's escaping me. But I was actually kind of impressed-

Joe Rogan 5:26 Deplatforming people or privacy.

Tim Dillon 5:28 Yes, it was...

Narrator 5:29 He says it like, "Here..." It's a video of him from this summer. He's like, "Who the hell are..." Let's see.

Tim Dillon 5:33 Who was he cr- who was he critiquing though? Who was he criticizing?

Narrator 5:37 Probably like Google.

Tim Dillon 5:38 Yes.

Narrator 5:38 And it says, "Ted Cruz on Google and big tech censorship."

Tim Dillon 5:42 Yeah, there was a...

Narrator 5:43 "Who the hell are you to decide who can speak?"

Tim Dillon 5:46 There was...

Narrator 5:46 Or who can't.

Tim Dillon 5:46 He was catching them in some hypocrisies and some lies.

Narrator 5:49 Right.

Tim Dillon 5:50 And it was like, it was very good the way he was doing it and well-phrased. Like you gotta, you gotta give a little if you're gonna shit on the guy. I was, I was...... that, that fucking tech stuff drives me crazy.

Joe Rogan 6:01 Right.

Tim Dillon 6:01 It drives me... And what drives me crazy is the people on the left that think it's not gonna come for them.

Joe Rogan 6:05 Right.

Tim Dillon 6:06 Like-

Joe Rogan 6:06 Well, they're all moving here. All these tech guys are in Austin.

Tim Dillon 6:09 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 6:09 Like, a lot of them are moving here. And there are some of them that are more, uh, I don't know what you would call it, libertarian in their ideology, where they don't want to shut people down and they want people, uh, to speak. But there's just so much, I don't know, it, it just feels like you're... There's a tide coming in and the tide is gonna wash away even those people that are standing up and saying, "This isn't right. We shouldn't do this." I just feel like... 'Cause people are tired. Like, the public doesn't care and I get it. The public doesn't care. The public's like, "You know what? I don't care. Who care-" I, like-

Tim Dillon 6:43 You don't think they care?

Joe Rogan 6:44 I think some of them do, but I think it's one of those things that it doesn't affect that many people. And if it doesn't affect that many people, it's hard to necessarily get up in arms over it. Like with... When Gina Carano gets fired, people are like, "Okay." Like, it doesn't affect that many people. Most people work at jobs where they're not allowed to say anything.

Tim Dillon 7:03 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 7:03 So they work for corporations, they go into an office, they can't say anything, right?

Tim Dillon 7:06 And they kind of like it when people get in trouble.

Joe Rogan 7:08 Yeah, they love when people get in trouble, especially when people outside of the system that are making money get in trouble.

Tim Dillon 7:12 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 7:12 So people aren't really a- as upset about it and they don't think it's gonna lead to where it's gonna lead to. That was-

Tim Dillon 7:19 This whole thing with Alex Jones, it's like, it's clearly gonna lead... It's not gonna die with Alex, it's gonna go other places. Right. Once you're getting rid of the freedom of the First Amendment, right? The freedom of speech, which is, you know, as long as you're not doxxing someone or openly threatening someone-

Joe Rogan 7:33 Right.

Tim Dillon 7:33 ... or doing something-

Joe Rogan 7:34 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 7:34 ... like, genuinely horrible.

Joe Rogan 7:35 Right.

Tim Dillon 7:36 You should be able to speak your opinion 'cause we have to figure out-

Joe Rogan 7:38 Yes.

Tim Dillon 7:38 ... who's right. And we-

Joe Rogan 7:39 Right.

Tim Dillon 7:40 You can't say, "You're not right, so you can't talk."

Joe Rogan 7:43 Right.

Tim Dillon 7:44 Because then the people that have the power to p- to hit that switch-

Joe Rogan 7:48 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 7:48 ... which is right now the people that are on the left that are in charge of tech-

Joe Rogan 7:51 Right.

Tim Dillon 7:51 ... they're gonna hit that switch whenever they disagree with people.

Joe Rogan 7:53 Well, it's weird 'cause they also have billions of dollars. If you go on the Clubhouse app and you listen to these people talk, they are, they're... I know you don't, but they are billionaires or worth hundreds of millions of dollars and their concerns are always like, you, you go into the app and somebody's like, "We need more indigenous, uh, creators. We need more indigenous entrepreneurs or women of color entrepreneurs," or all these goals that are laudable goals, whatever. But they're... Then a white guy will come into the conversation and go, well, he goes, "I don't really... As a white guy, I want to apologize for even speaking."

Tim Dillon 8:27 (laughs) No.

Joe Rogan 8:27 I swear to God.

Tim Dillon 8:28 Who's done this?

Joe Rogan 8:28 This is a guy on Clubhouse goes-

Tim Dillon 8:29 That's why I'm not on Clubhouse.

Joe Rogan 8:30 As a white guy-

Tim Dillon 8:31 I can't. I can't do this.

Joe Rogan 8:31 ... he goes, "I wanna..." But you don't... You gotta go into my good rooms, like, "Should women be allowed to own Bitcoin?" That's a real debate.

Tim Dillon 8:37 Did you make that room?

Joe Rogan 8:38 Yeah. The rooms on Clubhouse I make are like, "Should women be allowed to own Bitcoin? Uh, I wanna be a cancer influencer."

Tim Dillon 8:45 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 8:46 Um, "How do you build a brand in prison? Should I buy a Bitcoin or pay for my son's surgery?" You gotta have fun. Ted, I, the one last night was Ted Cruz has a right to do cocaine with his family in Mexico. Uh, you gotta have fun with it. I troll and just have a little bit of fun. But on that app, you listen to these tech people, and one really big tech, uh, woman who's massive said, like, something that was chilling, she goes, "We gotta put guardrails up online." And as soon as she said, "We gotta put guardrails up," I felt chilled 'cause I'm like, I know what she means by that. And guardrails are just, like, here's where the offensive speech is and we're gonna put the guardrail there and then the guardrail's gonna move.

Tim Dillon 9:22 Who said this?

Joe Rogan 9:23 A very big, uh, person who owns a major app that just went public.

Tim Dillon 9:29 Jesus.

Joe Rogan 9:29 Who's worth bili- 1.5 billion now. And I'm sure she's a lovely, talented woman, but her belief was like, "Hey, we gotta put some guardrails up online," but when I heard it, I went, "This is a very, uh, ominous thing to say because-"

Tim Dillon 9:42 Right. But, but hold on.

Joe Rogan 9:43 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 9:43 When, when someone says something like that, she's probably talking about this QAnon shit that led to the Capitol Hill riot.

Joe Rogan 9:49 Perhaps. Or she's talking about somebody calling someone fat or somebody saying-

Tim Dillon 9:53 Oh, really?

Joe Rogan 9:53 ... someone's a moron or I don't know, but are, are you really... Is it gonna be easy to just draw a line around QAnon stuff? And then, then where's the legitimate discussions-

Tim Dillon 10:02 Right.

Joe Rogan 10:02 ... about human trafficking?

Tim Dillon 10:03 Yeah, no. For sure.

Joe Rogan 10:04 And political sh- Yeah, it's hard.

Tim Dillon 10:05 It's real hard.

Joe Rogan 10:06 So I think-

Tim Dillon 10:06 Did anybody challenge her?

Joe Rogan 10:08 No.

Tim Dillon 10:09 Were you in that room?

Joe Rogan 10:10 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 10:10 Why didn't you say something?

Joe Rogan 10:11 I did, I said, "Okay." I was like, "All right."

Tim Dillon 10:14 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 10:14 I went, "Okay." I mean, she's a billionaire, right? So I'm like-

Tim Dillon 10:16 So what?

Joe Rogan 10:17 I'm led in these rooms and I just kinda... Every now and then I throw out, like, a joke every eight minutes and then I just go back to listening.

Tim Dillon 10:24 What did everyone else say when she said-

Joe Rogan 10:26 "Yas queen." No, they're in. Joe, they're all in. It's a g-

Tim Dillon 10:29 They're in on the guardrails?

Joe Rogan 10:29 Oh, they want the guardrail. They think it's a great idea. Yeah, no. Because nobody wants to give you any of their money, so they wanna solve the world's problems by making everyone nice 'cause they're like, "Listen, I have a billion dollars, I don't wanna give you any of that, but I'd like everyone to be nicer." So that's what tech is. It's just a weird cognitive dissonance.

Tim Dillon 10:46 Bumble's CEO... If you- Well, someone found it. ... want to behave- I'm just looking it up. ... poorly, you cannot do it here. But where is that? On Bumble?

Narrator 10:53 I, I think-

Tim Dillon 10:53 But that's her app.

Joe Rogan 10:54 That's who... So that's who said it, by the way.

Tim Dillon 10:56 But only, but, but this is a female created-

Joe Rogan 10:58 Now that young Jamie is-

Tim Dillon 10:59 But, but hold on a second. This is a female created dating site.

Joe Rogan 11:01 Right.

Tim Dillon 11:01 I think she has the right on her dating site to say, "Look, I've created this, this atmosphere where I want people to be pleasant on this atmosphere."

Joe Rogan 11:09 Sure.

Tim Dillon 11:10 Because it's a female created dating site.

Joe Rogan 11:12 Sure.

Tim Dillon 11:12 I don't want guys s- sending dick pics-

Joe Rogan 11:14 Sure.

Tim Dillon 11:14 ... unless I ask for them.

Joe Rogan 11:16 Right.

Tim Dillon 11:16 You know, that kind of shit.

Joe Rogan 11:17 Well, that's fine, but does, does, does anyone... I'm just... On her app it's one thing.

Tim Dillon 11:23 Right.

Joe Rogan 11:23 But no one who wants power and control goes, "I'm good with my part of the..."... yard. Most people go, "Yeah, I want, I think these standards should be enforced uniformly." That's my experience of, like, hearing a lot of these people talk. I think a lot of them are like, "Yeah, we should step in and curate a better world and create a better world," and they think they're doing the right thing. But there's a huge downside to it, which I don't know if they realize, because they just wanna, you know, they wanna get everyone's data, sell it, and make money. So, they don't want anything getting in the way of that.

Tim Dillon 11:58 Yeah. That's, that's the real problem.

Joe Rogan 11:59 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 12:00 The real problem is, the consumers have become the product and-

Joe Rogan 12:03 Right.

Tim Dillon 12:03 ... they didn't know they were the product, and now the people that were selling them are making insane amounts of money. And, you know, one of the interesting things that's going on right now is this fight between Facebook, Mark Zuckerberg and Tim Cook.

Joe Rogan 12:16 Right.

Tim Dillon 12:16 Tim Cook at Apple. Tim Cook is like, "Hey, you know, just selling ads is good enough. You shouldn't be selling people's data. You shouldn't be, uh-

Joe Rogan 12:23 Right.

Tim Dillon 12:23 ... infringing on people's privacy, and we're gonna put a stop to that." And so Facebook took out this, was it a full-page ad? Like what, what, they did, they did something where they published this piece where Mark Zuckerberg was essentially saying that you are going to punish small businesses, which is the weirdest... See, let's see what his argument against Tim Cook was, 'cause this was fairly recently.

Joe Rogan 12:46 Zuckerberg came on-

Tim Dillon 12:47 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 12:47 ... Clubhouse for, for a brief moment.

Tim Dillon 12:48 What'd he say?

Joe Rogan 12:49 I don't know. He-

Tim Dillon 12:49 Does not compute and he just-

Joe Rogan 12:50 Yeah, he comes, he comes on for, like, a brief moment, and then he got out. But sometimes people are in the audience in those apps, like, you'll look, you're like, "Motherfucker, that guy is..." Everybody's waiting for Joe Rogan to come on it.

Tim Dillon 13:00 Yeah, that's not happening.

Joe Rogan 13:01 Every single person on the app's like-

Tim Dillon 13:02 Why would I do that?

Joe Rogan 13:03 When does Joe R-

Tim Dillon 13:03 I talk enough.

Joe Rogan 13:04 When does Joe Rogan go on the app? 'Cause I said-

Tim Dillon 13:06 He s-

Joe Rogan 13:06 What Joe Rogan really wants to do is spend four or five hours a night talking. He wants to talk-

Tim Dillon 13:10 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 13:10 ... and he wants to listen.

Tim Dillon 13:11 Yeah, I wanna come on.

Joe Rogan 13:11 He wants to listen.

Tim Dillon 13:12 I wanna listen.

Joe Rogan 13:13 But I, I, we want you to come on for a fun night to just-

Tim Dillon 13:16 Who's is this, me?

Joe Rogan 13:17 ... blow it up. Me, the Weinstein family-

Tim Dillon 13:19 Oh, listen, those people-

Joe Rogan 13:20 ... who love me and-

Tim Dillon 13:21 ... I love, I love them.

Joe Rogan 13:21 ... now they hate me. They hate me, the Weinsteins.

Tim Dillon 13:23 No, the Weinsteins love you, but Eric is very sensitive.

Joe Rogan 13:26 Ugh. Well, yeah, I-

Tim Dillon 13:27 You can't, you can't criticize them.

Joe Rogan 13:27 ... I made fun of them 'cause I said, "All these gurus, what have they ever done?" I'm like... And Lex Fridman loved it. I said, "What are these guy- who are these guys? Have they invented the Rotato? What do they do?" Like-

Tim Dillon 13:36 What is a Rotato?

Joe Rogan 13:37 It's the thing that peels and slices the potato. I'm like, "Have they ever had an invention?" And, and then they got mad and they were like, "Well, this is not good." But I wanna do a video-

Tim Dillon 13:45 No, no, no, no, no, more, more than that. He actually went on-

Joe Rogan 13:47 He called me and he, you know-

Tim Dillon 13:48 He went on Twitter-

Joe Rogan 13:49 Yes.

Tim Dillon 13:49 ... and he said-

Joe Rogan 13:50 He flamed me.

Tim Dillon 13:51 "Tim Dillon asked what have I ever done."

Joe Rogan 13:54 What have I ever done. Yeah.

Tim Dillon 13:54 And then he starts listing all the things he's done.

Joe Rogan 13:56 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 13:56 That's always a mistake.

Joe Rogan 13:57 It's wild.

Tim Dillon 13:58 That's not a good thing to do.

Joe Rogan 13:58 It's wi-... You're arguing with a man who wears a wig sometimes. So-

Tim Dillon 14:02 Who? Him or you?

Joe Rogan 14:03 Both probably.

Tim Dillon 14:04 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 14:04 But I was talking about myself.

Tim Dillon 14:06 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 14:06 But I wanted to do a video where I impersonate him, Brett, and Heather, and I might do it. I just gotta get-

Tim Dillon 14:12 You should do it.

Joe Rogan 14:13 I might do it. Yeah, uh, and, and w- we'll have a Lex Fridman, like a little baby in a suit as Lex Fridman, we'll put him there too.

Tim Dillon 14:18 Yeah, I like it.

Joe Rogan 14:19 Uh, they're all very smart but it's just like, listen man, comedy is comedy. You gotta, you gotta have fun.

Tim Dillon 14:25 Yes.

Joe Rogan 14:25 You gotta have fun.

Tim Dillon 14:26 Well, you can't get upset if... Listen, if you've done all those wonderful things-

Joe Rogan 14:30 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 14:30 ... and then someone comes and makes fun of you, and you go, "What have you done?"

Joe Rogan 14:33 Right.

Tim Dillon 14:33 You've gotta just let it go.

Joe Rogan 14:34 I said that you guys left LA because my podcast was bigger than yours, which is provably untrue. That's provably not true. And I said, and I was-

Tim Dillon 14:43 Can you imagine, imagine if I went on Twitter-

Joe Rogan 14:44 Yes.

Tim Dillon 14:44 ... "Tim Dillon said I left LA-

Joe Rogan 14:46 I w-... Yes. (laughs)

Tim Dillon 14:46 ... because his podcast was bigger than mine."

Joe Rogan 14:49 Right. (laughs) Yeah.

Tim Dillon 14:49 "That is not true."

Joe Rogan 14:50 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 14:50 "Here are the numbers."

Joe Rogan 14:51 Yeah. "Here are the numbers."

Tim Dillon 14:51 "Tim Dillon is a fraud."

Joe Rogan 14:53 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 14:53 "He lies about things all the time."

Joe Rogan 14:55 (laughs)

Tim Dillon 14:56 Imagine if I did that?

Joe Rogan 14:57 Yeah. I said, "Joe's leaving LA because our podcast is bigger than him," and people go, "But you get like 208,000 views on YouTube." I go, "You don't understand the me-... So it's..." (laughs)

Tim Dillon 15:06 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 15:06 "You don't understand, there's other things at play." Um, but I do shit like that all the time, and it's like, sometimes people get angry, but you have to-

Tim Dillon 15:14 Well, they have to understand fun and they have to understand comedy. Right?

Joe Rogan 15:17 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 15:18 'Cause comedy, like a big part of what you and I both do-

Joe Rogan 15:20 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 15:20 ... like we, we, we have points, you know, like you're serious sometimes.

Joe Rogan 15:23 Sometimes, yeah.

Tim Dillon 15:24 I'm serious sometimes too.

Joe Rogan 15:25 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 15:25 But we talk shit.

Joe Rogan 15:27 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 15:27 I mean, that's really what it is, it's talking shit.

Joe Rogan 15:28 He said to me, he goes, "Have you read my Unified Theory of Everything?" I'm like, "No," and I gotta be honest, not gonna. Not gonna do it.

Tim Dillon 15:34 Why would you do that?

Joe Rogan 15:35 I just don't-

Tim Dillon 15:36 Have you read, any time someone says that to you-

Joe Rogan 15:37 I haven't done it.

Tim Dillon 15:38 ... that's an issue.

Joe Rogan 15:39 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 15:39 If someone said, if, if, as a like a put you in your place, "Have you read my Unified Theory of Everything?"

Joe Rogan 15:45 Right. Yeah.

Tim Dillon 15:45 'Cause if I did, I would talk to you about it.

Joe Rogan 15:46 Yeah, I'm like, "I don't have any... I don't care." I mean, I'm just-

Tim Dillon 15:49 But I bet it's really interesting.

Joe Rogan 15:49 I'm glad that you-

Tim Dillon 15:50 I do care.

Joe Rogan 15:51 I'm glad that it's... you've unified everything. Good, good.

Tim Dillon 15:56 Well, he's a fucking brilliant guy.

Joe Rogan 15:57 He's a very smart guy.

Tim Dillon 15:59 I, I've talked to him on the podcast before and-

Joe Rogan 16:00 A ton. Very intelligent.

Tim Dillon 16:02 ... he's left, left me, uh, you know like if you go running with like, uh, David Goggins or something like that-

Joe Rogan 16:06 Well, no, but I'll take your word for it.

Tim Dillon 16:08 ... and then you're just like, "I'm just gonna sit on the side of the road here and just let you run."

Joe Rogan 16:10 Yes. Yes. Yeah, he does that.

Tim Dillon 16:11 And they just run away from you. They're way, you know-

Joe Rogan 16:15 It, it, listen-

Tim Dillon 16:16 They're way ahead of you.

Joe Rogan 16:16 It is what it is. Yeah. I've, I've, I'd love to be invited to the Weinstein Thanksgiving next year.

Tim Dillon 16:22 Listen, B- Brett and Eric are wonderful people. And I love Heather as well.

Joe Rogan 16:26 I'm sure they are.

Tim Dillon 16:26 They're great.

Joe Rogan 16:27 I'm sure they are.

Tim Dillon 16:27 I'm giant fans of them.

Joe Rogan 16:28 I'm sure they are.

Tim Dillon 16:29 They really are.

Joe Rogan 16:30 I, I guaran-... I'm sure. I don't know them, but-

Tim Dillon 16:32 He, it was, uh, we were at The Comedy Store-

Joe Rogan 16:33 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 16:33 ... and Andrew Schulz-

Joe Rogan 16:34 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 16:35 ... starts f- was fucking with Eric.

Joe Rogan 16:36 Oh, yeah.

Tim Dillon 16:36 And you c- you could see Eric was like-

Joe Rogan 16:38 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 16:39 He, he, he had, they had had some sort of interaction online.

Joe Rogan 16:41 Right.

Tim Dillon 16:42 And I forget what it was-

Joe Rogan 16:43 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 16:43 ... but it was playful. And Schulz starts fucking with him at the store.

Joe Rogan 16:46 The whole thing about comedy is-

Tim Dillon 16:48 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 16:48 ... you know, you're, you're taking shots, you're having fun, it's not meant to be taken seriously. It's complete... You know, they're in the world though-

Tim Dillon 16:56 Right. But he's 50 years old-

Joe Rogan 16:57 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 16:57 ... and he's dabbling in this world now.

Joe Rogan 16:59 But it's also like, they're on YouTube, so you might be a fucking genius, but you're next to me and Logan Paul on YouTube.

Tim Dillon 17:06 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 17:06 So, I'm gonna say something about something and wha- whatever. If you're a genius, it shouldn't bother you.

Tim Dillon 17:12 Yeah, I would agree with you, but I, I just had a conversation with a brilliant friend of mine, one of the-

Joe Rogan 17:17 Right.

Tim Dillon 17:17 ... literally one of the smartest people I know. And he has a, a podcast and, you know, he, he's a... I don't even wanna say what he does 'cause I didn't ask him if I could talk about this. But he said, "I need to talk to you about how to handle criticism and how to handle this stuff on social media."

Joe Rogan 17:33 Right. Right.

Tim Dillon 17:34 "Because I engage too much or I think about it too much or I'm reading it too much and then it fucks with me."

Joe Rogan 17:38 Right.

Tim Dillon 17:38 And we had this conversa-... I mean, this guy is a fucking genius.

Joe Rogan 17:41 Right.

Tim Dillon 17:41 And not just a genius, like a physical specimen too. I mean, he's a, he's-

Joe Rogan 17:44 Right.

Tim Dillon 17:44 ... he's an amazing person.

Joe Rogan 17:46 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 17:46 And yet-

Joe Rogan 17:47 And it gets to you.

Tim Dillon 17:48 And he's not even controversial, like the stuff-

Joe Rogan 17:49 Right.

Tim Dillon 17:49 ... he talks about is not controversial.

Joe Rogan 17:51 Right.

Tim Dillon 17:51 But it's just dealing with other p- is- whether it's peers-

Joe Rogan 17:55 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 17:55 ... or people that are jealous or-

Joe Rogan 17:57 Right.

Tim Dillon 17:57 ... just straight up assholes.

Joe Rogan 17:59 Yeah, well, comics are in this weird position because we have to look at things and, uh, observe things and make fun of things. We gotta make fun of people we disagree with, make fun of people we agree with.

Tim Dillon 18:09 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 18:09 We gotta make fun of the whole landscape.

Tim Dillon 18:10 And yourself.

Joe Rogan 18:11 And myself, which I do all the time.

Tim Dillon 18:13 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 18:13 And it's the whole landscape of what's out there right now. And it's not just... You know, I don't pick a side or I don't go... I may agree with a side, but I... Like, I agree with a lot of what those guys say, but it's like, if something happens to be funny-

Tim Dillon 18:27 Yes.

Joe Rogan 18:27 ... I say it.

Tim Dillon 18:28 Right, if you agree with them and then you shit on the point that you agree with-

Joe Rogan 18:32 Right.

Tim Dillon 18:32 ... because there's gold there.

Joe Rogan 18:34 That's what you gotta do.

Tim Dillon 18:34 That's what we do.

Joe Rogan 18:35 That's what you gotta do.

Tim Dillon 18:36 You have to do that sometimes.

Joe Rogan 18:37 Yeah, and I mean, it's- it's-

Tim Dillon 18:38 It doesn't mean you don't care- you don't-

Joe Rogan 18:39 Doesn't mean... Yeah.

Tim Dillon 18:40 ... think they're brilliant or that they unify-

Joe Rogan 18:41 Thank God we have radically different jobs.

Tim Dillon 18:43 Yeah, thank God, yeah.

Joe Rogan 18:44 Thank God my job is not to, you know, a- advance scientific theories.

Tim Dillon 18:49 Imagine if you were working for Peter Thiel and you were in charge of-

Joe Rogan 18:52 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 18:52 ... all of his money. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 18:55 It would be a very interesting... (laughs) Thiel Capital would have a very interesting three months before it was over.

Tim Dillon 19:00 (laughs) Three?

Joe Rogan 19:01 Be over. (laughs)

Tim Dillon 19:03 (laughs) Yeah.

Joe Rogan 19:04 It'd be la- ha- ha-

Tim Dillon 19:05 Last half of the first month.

Joe Rogan 19:05 It would be the end, but I'd go- we'd go bankrupt a few things. Like we'd go after... You know, he already did Gawker.

Tim Dillon 19:10 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 19:10 We'd go after a few more, you know?

Tim Dillon 19:13 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 19:13 Go after a few people I don't like.

Tim Dillon 19:15 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 19:16 Let's... I think it's a great idea. Text me, Peter. Call me. Yeah, but a lot of these tech guys are in Austin. They're very interesting.

Tim Dillon 19:22 Well, they're moving here because this is a very tech-friendly area.

Joe Rogan 19:26 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 19:26 It's- it's a weird place because it's a blue spot in a red state. And, uh, it's- it's also a very artistic area.

Joe Rogan 19:34 Right.

Tim Dillon 19:34 It's also very nice.

Joe Rogan 19:35 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 19:35 Like one of the reasons why I moved here is the... It's a lower population than LA, and people are just genuinely friendlier.

Joe Rogan 19:43 Right.

Tim Dillon 19:43 They're friendlier.

Joe Rogan 19:44 Right.

Tim Dillon 19:44 I- I've always loved it here. I've been coming here since n- I think I did my first gig here in '99.

Joe Rogan 19:49 I walked into a get my hair done and a woman's like, "Are you from California? You bringing your liberal politics here." I'm like, "Do I look like I'm bringing liberal poli- I look like Rush Limbaugh." Like, do I look like I'm bringing my liberal politics here?

Tim Dillon 19:59 Did she see your license plate? Is that what it was?

Joe Rogan 20:01 I think so, yeah.

Tim Dillon 20:02 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 20:02 And she's like, "Where are you... You're..." Because I have a- a New York voice, so they're like-

Tim Dillon 20:05 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 20:05 ... "Oh, you're not- you're not from here."

Tim Dillon 20:07 Right.

Joe Rogan 20:07 And I'm like, "Yeah, I'm not bringing my liberal poli- I'm bringing, like, no politics."

Tim Dillon 20:11 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 20:11 I don't even... I guarantee whenever the elections are, I will miss them.

Tim Dillon 20:14 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 20:15 I won't know when they are and someone will call me in a week and go, "Did you vote?" And I'll go, "What?"

Tim Dillon 20:20 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 20:20 So that's... Whatever ally you want here, you don't get.

Tim Dillon 20:23 Well, I- I have a friend of mine who, uh, is out here. He's an older gentleman who I've become friends with since I moved here, and, uh, he's a- a gun enthusiast and a kind of an interesting character, but- but a very smart guy.

Joe Rogan 20:34 Right.

Tim Dillon 20:35 And, uh, he just goes, "We're being invaded."

Joe Rogan 20:39 Yeah, well, he's right.

Tim Dillon 20:41 That's- that's how he looked at me.

Joe Rogan 20:41 He's right a little bit.

Tim Dillon 20:41 I go, "By people like me, you mean?"

Joe Rogan 20:42 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 20:42 Like I'm- I'm part of the invasion.

Joe Rogan 20:43 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 20:44 He goes, "No, you're a good guy." He goes, "You're a good guy."

Joe Rogan 20:45 But it's also like, isn't Austin pretty damn liberal? Like, I drive through Austin-

Tim Dillon 20:48 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 20:48 ... it's like women with, like... I'm saying women, but I don't know, but entities with purple dreadlocks.

Tim Dillon 20:55 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 20:55 It's like Antifa runs Austin. It's like, I'm- I'm bringing liberal values here. I mean, it's like crazy.

Tim Dillon 20:59 They're worried about the voting because they already hate the mayor.

Joe Rogan 21:01 Yeah, of course.

Tim Dillon 21:02 They already hate the mayor.

Joe Rogan 21:03 I get it. Yeah.

Tim Dillon 21:03 They hate the mayor, they hate the homeless situation, they love the governor.

Joe Rogan 21:06 Yeah, right.

Tim Dillon 21:07 And they- they're trying to figure it out.

Joe Rogan 21:07 The governor's a good dude. I watched the governor do the press con. He did, like, a good job.

Tim Dillon 21:11 He's a great guy.

Joe Rogan 21:11 But you do miss Trump a little bit because you do miss, you do miss the... Like, how Trump would have handled it.

Tim Dillon 21:16 Well, then you just go to Andrew Cuomo.

Joe Rogan 21:17 Greg Abbott, who's very respectful... Well, he's a criminal.

Tim Dillon 21:19 He's a Democrat Trump.

Joe Rogan 21:20 Yeah, he's- he's a criminal.

Tim Dillon 21:21 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 21:21 Yeah, who's not funny, um, and should be in jail. Um, but-

Tim Dillon 21:24 Yeah, well, how about that, huh? How about lying?

Joe Rogan 21:25 I mean, he's threat- he's calling and threatening people, telling them not to...

Tim Dillon 21:30 Journalists.

Joe Rogan 21:30 Yeah, calling and threatening people. He's calling other people going, "Hey man."

Tim Dillon 21:33 Politicians.

Joe Rogan 21:34 "You know, we're... You know, we don't... We- we act a certain way." I don't know what the quote is. Jamie will find it, but he said something to the guy, like, mafia shit.

Tim Dillon 21:40 Yeah, well, the- the Hill.

Joe Rogan 21:41 Strong arming.

Tim Dillon 21:41 Um, uh, Krystal and Saagar covered it today on their, uh, their show, and it's, uh, on... There's a clip on- on their Instagram page. Uh, i- i- showing the- the guy and- and he's explaining what they said, what Cuomo said to him. But he basically said, "I will destroy you."

Joe Rogan 21:57 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 21:57 Which is like... They- they were- they said-

Joe Rogan 21:59 That's lovely.

Tim Dillon 21:59 They said-

Joe Rogan 22:00 Isn't that nice?

Tim Dillon 22:00 Yeah, they- they said it accurately.

Joe Rogan 22:02 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 22:02 They were like, "This is cartoonish."

Joe Rogan 22:03 Yeah, it's cartoon... And they all get caught. There's something with Ted Cruz on a plane or this guy doing it. Like, you all get caught. It's no longer like the '60s when they could just w- with impunity do whatever they wanted.

Tim Dillon 22:12 Well, he's a 70-year-old guy.

Joe Rogan 22:13 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 22:13 He's probably been doing this his whole life, right?

Joe Rogan 22:14 Of course, he has. But, like, you get caught now and then they look terrible-

Tim Dillon 22:18 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 22:18 ... when they get caught.

Tim Dillon 22:19 Well, that's the least of it, but he looks terrible. The reason why he doesn't want them to say things-

Joe Rogan 22:25 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 22:25 ... is because they lied about the COVID numbers in nursing homes, the COVID deaths in nursing homes, which are directly attributable to his policies, kills-

Joe Rogan 22:35 Crazy.

Tim Dillon 22:36 Literally, they lied about 50%.

Joe Rogan 22:39 Wow.

Tim Dillon 22:39 They- they lied at a 50%, right? So-

Joe Rogan 22:42 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 22:42 ... whatever the fuck the number was, it was 50% off the real number.

Joe Rogan 22:46 Wow.

Tim Dillon 22:47 Which is thousands of deaths.

Joe Rogan 22:49 So it was a brush fire.

Tim Dillon 22:50 Thousands, thousands of people-

Joe Rogan 22:52 Died.

Tim Dillon 22:52 ... that died. Just think of a pile. Think of like a show that you and I would do at a nice theater.

Joe Rogan 22:57 Yeah, sure.

Tim Dillon 22:57 Now think of those people just stacked up dead-

Joe Rogan 23:00 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 23:00 ... because of the decision of a politician.

Joe Rogan 23:02 Can they get r- is it- is it- is it a... Is it a... 'Cause the... I know that they're trying to recall Newsom.

Tim Dillon 23:07 They're trying to recall him too.

Joe Rogan 23:08 They're trying to recall him too, yeah.

Tim Dillon 23:09 They're- they're- they're ga- they're gathering the momentum to try to recall him right now.

Joe Rogan 23:12 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 23:12 But on top of that, there's also... I don't know if this is true, but I was reading about the potential FBI investigation. There's a criminal investigation into this.

Joe Rogan 23:20 Well, there should be, yeah.

Tim Dillon 23:22 Well, his... One of his aides leaked the fact that they were worried that these numbers were going to get out and that it was going to help the Trump administration. So, they-

Joe Rogan 23:30 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 23:30 This is all, again-

Joe Rogan 23:32 Crazy.

Tim Dillon 23:33 I- it's political. It's all crazy, but also I'm a moron. I don't really know what the fuck I'm talking about.

Joe Rogan 23:36 Right.

Tim Dillon 23:36 Let's just be really clear. I'm listening to people like Krystal and Saagar the... from The Hill, from Rising-

Joe Rogan 23:41 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 23:42 ... that actually know what they're talking about, and I'm reiterating what they're saying.

Joe Rogan 23:44 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 23:44 Just- just say to that.

Joe Rogan 23:45 Well, I know what I'm talking about and Cuomo should go to jail.... what can I do?

Tim Dillon 23:49 Ah, here it is. US Attorney, FBI Investigating Cuomo's Handling of Nursing Home Details. Okay, now, though this is on NBC. Whenever something gets on NBC, you know they're fucked.

Joe Rogan 23:59 Right.

Tim Dillon 24:00 Because this is a Democrat.

Joe Rogan 24:01 Right.

Tim Dillon 24:01 When they're covering this on NBC-

Joe Rogan 24:03 Right.

Tim Dillon 24:03 ... they're throwing him under the bus. Not only that, they've also barred his brother from ever interviewing him on CNN.

Joe Rogan 24:09 Well, yeah, that's... I mean, that's a dog and pony show, the idea that he could even interview his own brother and toss him softball questions and-

Tim Dillon 24:15 But Jake Tapper wants to interview him. I believe it's Jake Tapper. I think it w- who's a credible journalist.

Joe Rogan 24:21 Right.

Tim Dillon 24:21 And they're like, "Uh-uh."

Joe Rogan 24:22 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 24:22 He doesn't want to talk to Jake Tapper.

Joe Rogan 24:24 No.

Tim Dillon 24:24 Because Jake Tapper is going to hold his feet to the fire, or whoever it is they're talking about.

Joe Rogan 24:27 Remember in the beginning Cuomo was the star?

Tim Dillon 24:29 Yes.

Joe Rogan 24:29 Like Chelsea Handler's like, "I want to fuck Cuomo." Like they were all-

Tim Dillon 24:32 Ooh.

Joe Rogan 24:32 ... he was the star.

Tim Dillon 24:33 Imagine him-

Joe Rogan 24:33 She said that, yeah.

Tim Dillon 24:34 ... imagine being him.

Joe Rogan 24:35 She said... Yeah. (laughs)

Tim Dillon 24:36 (laughs) What a threat.

Joe Rogan 24:36 That's your reward.

Tim Dillon 24:37 That's a threat.

Joe Rogan 24:38 Uh, but the-

Tim Dillon 24:39 How would she do it too? She'd be on top.

Joe Rogan 24:41 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 24:42 And she'd punch him.

Joe Rogan 24:42 Yeah. Sh-

Tim Dillon 24:43 As soon as she came, she'd punch him right in the nose.

Joe Rogan 24:46 (laughs)

Tim Dillon 24:46 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 24:48 He, he was the star. Everybody loved him in the beginning, and they were like, "He's handling it brilliantly."

Tim Dillon 24:54 I thought so.

Joe Rogan 24:55 Ye-

Tim Dillon 24:55 I thought so.

Joe Rogan 24:56 ah. Yeah.

Tim Dillon 24:56 Thi- this is what I thought. I thought he, he's calm and he, he looks like a leader. I mean, this is like, you know, you see a man who is handling things in a very calm manner and i-... But as time went on, he started to crack, right?

Joe Rogan 25:10 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 25:11 And you see this with people that respond to pressure and criticism. It changes their character.

Joe Rogan 25:15 Right.

Tim Dillon 25:16 And this is, uh, what I was talking about with my friend-

Joe Rogan 25:18 Right.

Tim Dillon 25:18 ... who is a brilliant guy who's dealing with, uh, social media pressure. The, just y- you take in too much criticism and it starts to change your perspective, which starts to change your behavior, which becomes ultimately very detrimental. And you see it with Cuomo when he started saying... One of the things that he said about, like, lockdowns, he was like, you know, "If you didn't want to gain weight, you shouldn't have ate the cheesecake."

Joe Rogan 25:39 Right.

Tim Dillon 25:39 "You didn't listen. You didn't listen. You didn't wear your mask."

Joe Rogan 25:42 Right.

Tim Dillon 25:42 "You didn't social distance." That's not what it is, you fucking idiot.

Joe Rogan 25:45 Right.

Tim Dillon 25:45 That's not what it is.

Joe Rogan 25:46 Right.

Tim Dillon 25:46 What it is is this virus is very complicated and it's confusing because it was made in a goddamn lab probably.

Joe Rogan 25:53 Right.

Tim Dillon 25:53 Again, I'm a moron. But-

Joe Rogan 25:54 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 25:55 ... people that I know that are smart think it was made in a lab.

Joe Rogan 25:57 Right.

Tim Dillon 25:57 And they think that what happens is when you enforce lockdowns, you force people inside and you force people to be right on top of each other and they breathe each other's air and that's how people get sick.

Joe Rogan 26:07 Right.

Tim Dillon 26:07 And it's more likely that they're going to get sick that way than if you let them do things and just fucking go out in public and just-

Joe Rogan 26:15 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 26:15 ... go around and go places and mingle.

Joe Rogan 26:17 Well, this was also a guy that when New York was descending into a c- a crime infested hellscape, he said, "I'll... Uh, everybody come back, I'll cook for you."

Tim Dillon 26:24 "I'll cook for you."

Joe Rogan 26:25 "I'll cook for you. I'll make you sauce. You want i-..."

Tim Dillon 26:26 "I'll make you a nice meatball."

Joe Rogan 26:28 "I'll make you a potluck." There's people in New York right now beating each other with metal bats in the street-

Tim Dillon 26:32 I saw that video.

Joe Rogan 26:33 ... to death and de Blasio has people doing a dance routine, and Cuomo's telling people he'll make them Sunday sauce. It's a little-

Tim Dillon 26:41 How about that de Blasio video?

Joe Rogan 26:41 ... it's a little disturbing.

Tim Dillon 26:42 I sent you that, right?

Joe Rogan 26:43 Yeah, it's absurd.

Tim Dillon 26:43 How about... How-

Joe Rogan 26:44 It's crazy. It's one of the craziest things I've ever seen.

Tim Dillon 26:46 That was one of the rare times I post on Twitter.

Joe Rogan 26:48 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 26:48 Rare times I post on Twitter.

Joe Rogan 26:49 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 26:49 I posted that and I said, "How the fuck is this a real thing?"

Joe Rogan 26:52 How is this real?

Tim Dillon 26:53 How is this a real thing?

Joe Rogan 26:53 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 26:54 It's literally a Cohen brother sketch.

Joe Rogan 26:56 (laughs)

Tim Dillon 26:57 It's a, it's a scene in The Big Lebowski.

Joe Rogan 26:59 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 26:59 It's absurdist beyond belief.

Joe Rogan 27:01 Yeah. Yeah.

Tim Dillon 27:02 Please play that.

Joe Rogan 27:03 Yeah, he has a dance troop.

Tim Dillon 27:04 We're gonna bring back... Yeah. ... culture, we're gonna bring back-

Joe Rogan 27:06 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 27:06 ... the arts. This is what you say when you've never created a business.

Joe Rogan 27:09 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 27:10 This is the kind of shit that you do.

Joe Rogan 27:11 And they're not even good.

Tim Dillon 27:12 Play this. Play this. I need to hear this.

Joe Rogan 27:13 They're horrible.

Tim Dillon 27:14 No, but it's not just they're horrible.

Narrator 27:16 ... a part of. And if we're gonna do that, we're gonna really bring back the heart and soul of New York City. We need our arts and culture back and we need people to see it and feel it, to participate in it, to know that that essence of New York City has not been defeated by the coronavirus, but will come back strong in 2021.

Joe Rogan 27:32 That's Whitney Cummings.

Tim Dillon 27:33 What is his f-

Joe Rogan 27:34 That is Whitney.

Narrator 27:35 One fact to know in 2021, as you see this city come back to life, culture will lead the way.

Tim Dillon 27:38 Open culture is another step towards a recovery for our city. Stop. We're launching with 115 street locations- Stop, stop, stop. I can't. (bangs table) (exhales) This... If you- if I was a businessman who lost their business because they wouldn't allow me to stay open, but they allowed Target to be open, they allow these giant businesses-

Joe Rogan 27:56 Where was the guy with the bat for that?

Tim Dillon 27:59 And here's the other thing, when you tell someone that their business is not essential-

Joe Rogan 28:03 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 28:04 ... do you know how infuriating that must be if you run a goddamn restaurant?

Joe Rogan 28:06 Well, it's also the essential workers, by the way, started to get attitudes. I don't know if you know this, but a lot of the supermarket workers started to get a chip on their shoulder and I didn't like it.

Tim Dillon 28:13 They got essential?

Joe Rogan 28:14 They... Well, the essential workers, all the supermarket workers were being told, "Oh, you're essential, you're essential." They got a little rude.

Tim Dillon 28:19 Oh, you think so?

Joe Rogan 28:20 Yeah, just the same way we called nurses heroes. Don't do that. Don't call anyone a hero. They'll start... They piss on you. When you call someone a hero, it does something to their brain.

Tim Dillon 28:28 I've never found that with firefighters.

Joe Rogan 28:30 Well, sure, maybe. But with nurses, we called them heroes and then they started TikToking with dead bodies. Do you remember that?

Tim Dillon 28:37 I do remember that.

Joe Rogan 28:38 Yeah, you can't-

Tim Dillon 28:38 But I, I-

Joe Rogan 28:38 ... say, "You're a hero." You have to say, "Hey, thank you."

Tim Dillon 28:42 I don't mind a little-

Joe Rogan 28:42 "You're doing your job."

Tim Dillon 28:43 Listen, this is hypocritical. I don't mind a little gallows humor. I don't mind nurses TikToking with dead bodies as long as they take care of my grandma.

Joe Rogan 28:49 But then don't cry on Facebook. I don't mind gallows humor either. You can't TikTok with a dead body and then go, "Hey, it's not big enough! Wear your mask! We can't handle it." Pick a lane.

Tim Dillon 29:00 Do they do that too?

Joe Rogan 29:01 Yeah, of course.

Tim Dillon 29:02 I don't remember that part.

Joe Rogan 29:02 Pick a lane.

Tim Dillon 29:03 I don't remember anybody crying.

Joe Rogan 29:04 These nurses don't care about people. Anyway-

Tim Dillon 29:06 What are you saying? They do care.

Joe Rogan 29:08 Some of them do, Joe, but I know a lot of nur-

Tim Dillon 29:10 You had one just swab your nose.

Joe Rogan 29:11 I know a lot of nurses-

Tim Dillon 29:11 She's a nice lady. Say that that lady who swabbed your nose-

Joe Rogan 29:14 She's lovely, but I know a ni-

Tim Dillon 29:15 ... she's a nice lady.

Joe Rogan 29:15 ... I know a lot of nurses who are in it to steal Percocet from people.

Tim Dillon 29:19 Oh.

Joe Rogan 29:19 I know a lot of heartless nur-

Tim Dillon 29:20 Really?

Joe Rogan 29:20 We all know a lot of heartless nurses, and let's not pretend we don't. That's a fact. And then some of them are great. But there's n- it's just like, listen, if, if you took what I was saying about nurses and I was saying about cops, I, it... Everybody would... You know, the, the media would say, "Oh, that's great. That's a great take."

Tim Dillon 29:38 Well, they-

Joe Rogan 29:39 Because they brush cops.

Tim Dillon 29:40 ... they would have said it before, but, you know-... there, there's a lot of these defund the police states that are now ramping up their budget for police officers, like Minneapolis.

Joe Rogan 29:48 Right. Right.

Tim Dillon 29:48 There's, there's quite a few of these places-

Joe Rogan 29:49 'Cause it went to shit.

Tim Dillon 29:50 It didn't just go to shit, it went to Mad Max lanes.

Joe Rogan 29:53 Right.

Tim Dillon 29:54 It went to some really bad areas where-

Joe Rogan 29:55 With the bad things.

Tim Dillon 29:56 ... it's dangerous as fuck. I mean, you were-

Joe Rogan 29:58 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 29:58 ... talking about how bad New York City is when you were staying there last time.

Joe Rogan 30:00 Yeah, it was rough.

Tim Dillon 30:01 What was it like?

Joe Rogan 30:02 Me and my opener were walking back from a... First of all-

Tim Dillon 30:05 He's, he's got a name. He's a good guy. Jesus Christ.

Joe Rogan 30:06 Yeah, Dan Carney, my opener. He's a good guy. He's, he's a good guy.

Tim Dillon 30:09 Me and my slave.

Joe Rogan 30:10 My slave. (laughs)

Tim Dillon 30:11 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 30:11 He was walking, we were walk- I make him carry all the camera equipment and everything.

Tim Dillon 30:15 (laughs) Does he wear a mask?

Joe Rogan 30:16 And I, and I, he, he, no, he just car- carries all the camera equipment. And then I walk, you know, five feet ahead of him like a cartoon king down the street, just observing. And, uh, I said to him, "I think we're gonna get killed." I turned around and looked at him, I said, "We might get killed," because people on the street were looking at us like lunch. We were in Times Square, it was like, you know, maybe 11:30, 12:00 at night, and people were looking at us. Like people were sitting in Times Square like, "Who are you motherfuckers?" Like, you know what I mean? And-

Tim Dillon 30:40 That's why you need Texas gun laws in New York City.

Joe Rogan 30:44 Yeah. Well, and, and it was, it was terrifying. So, um, and, and people, you know, are, are... You're, you're just looking around now and you have a weird feeling that I've never felt in New York as an adult. I felt it when I was a kid in the '90s. I would be like, "Oh yeah, it's a little sketchy." But as an adult, it was like the first time I felt like shit could go down and it wouldn't be good. And now you see all these videos of people being hit with bats or, you know, it's rough. So I mean, I just think that it has a, it has a, a y-... You know, when Giuliani was elected there, there was something that happened right before it. And this was a, a thing that everyone knows about. A Rockette, w- uh, a Rockette was killed in Central Park. There was a knife in her back. And it was all over the cover of the papers and people said, and this was the early '90s, and there was about 28, 29 hundred homicides every year in New York City, which is almost like eight a day. It got so bad that that th- image of the Rockette with the knife in her back in Central Park, people started to go, "We need a new direction." They elected Giuliani, who's since disgraced himself and become a goon. I, I wa-

Tim Dillon 31:43 But don't you think that he just got old and his brain broke?

Joe Rogan 31:46 Yes, I think he should've gotten out of public life. But he did, you know, become a goon. But they cleaned that city up. It was really, it wasn't that livable for many, many people. It became a lot more livable and a lot safer, uh, after Giuliani got in there and that's a fact.

Tim Dillon 32:03 It's a fact.

Joe Rogan 32:03 And people that wanna, people might not like that, but that's a fact.

Tim Dillon 32:06 That's-

Joe Rogan 32:07 That's numbers and data.

Tim Dillon 32:08 ... one thing that happened. The other thing that happened was Times Square became a mall.

Joe Rogan 32:11 Times Square became a mall. A lot of that started to happen under Giuliani and then it, it crystallized after 9/11.

Tim Dillon 32:18 We need a balance.

Joe Rogan 32:19 We do need a balance.

Tim Dillon 32:20 Like you gotta have a little grit, but you want it to be safe.

Joe Rogan 32:23 No, you need, you need, you need a little balance. You want it to be a cool place and, and gr- you don't need like, uh, you know, every Broadway show, a de- a fucking Disney movie.

Tim Dillon 32:32 Right.

Joe Rogan 32:32 You don't need that. You don't need, you know, Cobra Kai the musical or whatever hell is coming after this pandemic's over.

Tim Dillon 32:39 But imagine being de Blasio-

Joe Rogan 32:41 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 32:41 ... and thinking that that video was a good idea.

Joe Rogan 32:43 Well, he's nuts.

Tim Dillon 32:43 Imagine watching the... He's gotta be nuts.

Joe Rogan 32:45 He's nuts, he's nuts. He, he's a doofy id-

Tim Dillon 32:47 How nuts?

Joe Rogan 32:47 I mean, he's seven, he's seven foot like s- five or something.

Tim Dillon 32:51 Is he?

Joe Rogan 32:51 He's like a, he's a big guy and he's just walking around. He probably doesn't get bloo- blood to all his extremities, and I mean he's walking around. And, uh, he's just completely devoid of any sense of like what is actually happening, you know?

Tim Dillon 33:06 And I, I... Was this is-

Joe Rogan 33:07 And his daughter's like at protests going crazy, like...

Tim Dillon 33:09 Yeah, she's, she's like antifa.

Joe Rogan 33:10 She's just throwing rocks, shooting cops.

Tim Dillon 33:11 Lighting buildings on fire.

Joe Rogan 33:11 I mean, she doesn't give a shit about anything. Yeah, she doesn't care.

Tim Dillon 33:14 D- isn't de Blasio not really his name?

Joe Rogan 33:17 I forget, but it's not his name.

Tim Dillon 33:19 No, I think it's like a Carlos Mencia type deal.

Joe Rogan 33:21 Yeah, it's, it's not his name.

Tim Dillon 33:22 Where he, like he didn't like his father so he changed his name, one of those things.

Joe Rogan 33:25 Yeah. I mean, he was just, he was the insufferable kid in high school with the Che Guevara shirt. I mean-

Tim Dillon 33:30 Here he is. Jamie will find out. His name is William Wa- uh, Warren Wilhime Jr. Oh my god, so everything's-

Joe Rogan 33:36 Yeah, but you can't-

Tim Dillon 33:36 ... fake.

Joe Rogan 33:36 Yeah, but he doesn't... Yeah, so Warren Wilhelm Jr.

Tim Dillon 33:38 Hold on a sec. It's, everything's fake.

Joe Rogan 33:40 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 33:41 So th- th- that's not his name.

Joe Rogan 33:43 How did he get the name Bill de Blasio?

Tim Dillon 33:43 Make that smaller so they can- uh, Bill de Blasio was born Warren Wilhelm Jr.

Joe Rogan 33:49 (laughs)

Tim Dillon 33:50 How is that possible? Is an American politician serving since 2014, the 109th mayor of New York City, member of Democratic Party, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. He was born in Manhattan, primarily raised in Cambridge, Massachusetts. Oh, well that... you're doomed. The, the-

Joe Rogan 34:04 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 34:04 ... Cambridge is like... I love Cambridge 'cause it's f- crazy.

Joe Rogan 34:08 Right.

Tim Dillon 34:09 But they're, there's a lot of theybes in Cambridge.

Joe Rogan 34:11 No.

Tim Dillon 34:12 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 34:12 There are theybe?

Tim Dillon 34:13 Oh yeah, I-

Joe Rogan 34:13 I thought theybes was like one theybe.

Tim Dillon 34:16 Uh, you know, there's many th- theybes. I have a gentleman whose daughter is a theybe. She insists on being a, a theybe.

Joe Rogan 34:22 She insists?

Tim Dillon 34:23 Yes, yes.

Joe Rogan 34:23 How old is she?

Tim Dillon 34:24 I said she.

Joe Rogan 34:24 They, they insist.

Tim Dillon 34:24 I'm misgendering. I should probably go to jail.

Joe Rogan 34:27 How old is they?

Tim Dillon 34:28 They is, uh... I s- there's no need to discuss. It's a kid.

Joe Rogan 34:31 Okay. Well-

Tim Dillon 34:31 It's under 18. They, but they, uh, refuse to be gendered.

Joe Rogan 34:36 But they're a... Okay.

Tim Dillon 34:37 But there's a, a trend. Like children-

Joe Rogan 34:39 Now-

Tim Dillon 34:39 ... pe- peop- parents are raising their children and ma- they're letting them pick-

Joe Rogan 34:43 As gender neutral.

Tim Dillon 34:44 ... pick their gender.

Joe Rogan 34:44 In Cambridge.

Tim Dillon 34:45 Yeah, they pick their-

Joe Rogan 34:46 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 34:46 They, just one day it will decide. And so they grow up like, "What am I?" Who cares? You're, you're like-

Joe Rogan 34:51 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 34:51 ... "Eat your food."

Joe Rogan 34:52 Right. Yeah.

Tim Dillon 34:53 "Eat your tofu."

Joe Rogan 34:54 Yeah.

Narrator 34:54 I think he took his mother's last name when he was getting older instead of the father's.

Tim Dillon 34:57 But what about the first name?

Narrator 34:59 Uh, William.

Tim Dillon 35:01 Oh.

Narrator 35:01 Oh. Well-

Tim Dillon 35:02 William Wilhelm.

Narrator 35:03 Yeah, let me see. Yeah, it says, it does say Wilhelm.

Tim Dillon 35:03 Warren Wilhelm.

Joe Rogan 35:05 His name, his name is Warren Wilhelm?

Narrator 35:06 Uh...

Joe Rogan 35:06 Warren is not-

Narrator 35:07 Correct.

Joe Rogan 35:07 ... Bill. But he looks like a Warren Wilhelm. He doesn't look like a Bill de Blasio. He looks like a creepy-

Narrator 35:13 Right.

Joe Rogan 35:13 ... you know, f- Warren Wilhelm. Like he would be like, "Oh, it's Warren again." And everyone would leave.

Narrator 35:17 He just went from Warren to Bill. I don't know.

Tim Dillon 35:19 Just decided to change everything.

Narrator 35:21 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 35:21 'Cause that's like a, you know, it's like a name that you'd elect. You go, "Yeah, I'm Bill. I'm like you, I'm Bill de Blasio. I'm not Warren Wilhelm from Cambridge. I'm Bill de Blasio from New York." Like...

Tim Dillon 35:31 It's a lot.

Joe Rogan 35:31 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 35:32 It's a lot. You know, there's the, there's so much there, you know. You shouldn't be able to do that.

Joe Rogan 35:41 You should have to disclose it.

Tim Dillon 35:43 Well, he did.

Joe Rogan 35:43 Like, you should have to tell people.

Tim Dillon 35:44 It's on Wikipedia.

Joe Rogan 35:44 Well, of course.

Narrator 35:45 Becoming mayoral.

Tim Dillon 35:46 Look at him, he's handsome. Look at him, he's young with... He's doing that thing that comics do when they start.

Joe Rogan 35:50 Look at him, he has three different legal names.

Narrator 35:52 That's a good one.

Tim Dillon 35:53 Mayoral hopeful Bill de Blasio has had three different legal names, court records show. Okay, what was the other name? Look at his f- l- right there, he's doing that thing, like, "Hey, I'm wacky." His elbow is, is it leaning on that-

Joe Rogan 36:07 Radiator.

Tim Dillon 36:07 ... radiator-

Joe Rogan 36:08 Yes.

Tim Dillon 36:08 ... or is it not? It seems like it's floating.

Joe Rogan 36:10 No, it's leaning.

Tim Dillon 36:11 I don't know if it is. The radiator might have been hot and they're take... Oh, okay, it's leaning.

Joe Rogan 36:15 No, what an o- what an odd photo.

Narrator 36:17 (laughs)

Tim Dillon 36:17 It's terrible.

Joe Rogan 36:18 What did he do before he was mayor?

Tim Dillon 36:20 It's terrible. I don't know. Okay, this Democratic candidate.

Narrator 36:23 I think it was for... Yeah.

Tim Dillon 36:24 What's his other names? Warren Wilhelm and-

Narrator 36:27 And then Warren de Blasio Wilhelm.

Tim Dillon 36:29 Oh, okay. So he beg- oh, he hyphenated it like he's married to another person.

Joe Rogan 36:31 He sounds like a count. Warren de Blasio Wilhelm.

Narrator 36:35 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 36:36 Gavin Newsom, who's... Gavin Newsom's like an effete wine merchant. Like, all of these guys are out of it.

Tim Dillon 36:41 Well, they-

Joe Rogan 36:41 They're out of it.

Tim Dillon 36:42 ... they've reached the, the point where they can recall him.

Joe Rogan 36:45 Right.

Tim Dillon 36:45 Now they just have to gather out enough names to... 'Cause some of them are gonna be invalid, some of the names that they've, uh, gathered apparently. They, they think they need an extra 500,000 names.

Joe Rogan 36:55 Just because some of the people aren't-

Tim Dillon 36:57 Yeah, it's just-

Joe Rogan 36:58 It's hard to-

Tim Dillon 36:58 ... they're not legally registered.

Joe Rogan 36:59 Gotcha.

Tim Dillon 37:00 To vote.

Joe Rogan 37:00 Right.

Tim Dillon 37:00 You have to be registered in California. I mean, who knows who the people are.

Joe Rogan 37:04 Right.

Tim Dillon 37:04 So they, they think they need a buffer of about 500,000. But here's the thing. This is-

Joe Rogan 37:08 They asked me to sign it. I'm like, "I don't even have a license." No, literally.

Tim Dillon 37:12 You don't drive for them?

Joe Rogan 37:12 I s- I didn't even sign... Uh, yeah, well, I do now, but at the time, I was like, "I'm not registered to vote here and I don't have a license." I'm like, "I'll sign it, and if someone calls me and goes, uh, 'Did you sign that?' I'll go, 'Yeah, fuck that guy.'"

Narrator 37:22 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 37:22 But I don't have any paperwork, you know?

Tim Dillon 37:25 You need paperwork.

Joe Rogan 37:26 I have it now.

Tim Dillon 37:26 Yeah, that's the thing, there's a bunch of people like you that are on that list, I'm sure.

Joe Rogan 37:29 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 37:29 But here's the, but here's the thing-

Joe Rogan 37:30 Patriots.

Tim Dillon 37:31 The thing is, California is a heavy Democratic state.

Joe Rogan 37:35 Right.

Tim Dillon 37:35 The odds of a person who's a Republican winning are very slim.

Joe Rogan 37:40 And New York too.

Tim Dillon 37:41 Yes, but it's different.

Joe Rogan 37:42 Right.

Tim Dillon 37:42 New York, there's a possibility, there's some precedent, right?

Joe Rogan 37:45 Right.

Tim Dillon 37:45 But th- there's v- no pr- the only precedent in California, the most recent is Arnold Schwarzenegger, who barely counts because he was a star and also... I don't know why they r- uh, why did they get rid of Gray Davis?

Joe Rogan 37:57 'Cause of the blackouts, the rolling blackouts to Enron, all that stuff.

Tim Dillon 38:01 Right.

Joe Rogan 38:01 They were fucking with the state.

Tim Dillon 38:02 And it was also, there was corruption involved in those rolling blackouts. There was corruption pr- yeah. Where it wasn't necessary-

Joe Rogan 38:08 Right.

Tim Dillon 38:08 ... to actually black out. They were doing it for political gain.

Joe Rogan 38:10 They were forcing it down to send the cost o- of energy up.

Tim Dillon 38:13 Yes.

Joe Rogan 38:13 Yeah. That was a great doc- Enron documentary, The Smartest Guys in the Room.

Tim Dillon 38:17 Great documentary.

Joe Rogan 38:18 It's a great documentary about that whole thing. And then Bethany McLean, who wrote the article How Does Enron Make Its Money, is a great financial journalist. Also, you know, she's in that documentary and that's a really cool documentary.

Tim Dillon 38:30 It's great.

Joe Rogan 38:30 And yeah.

Tim Dillon 38:31 It's spooky.

Joe Rogan 38:32 It's crazy.

Tim Dillon 38:32 That's spooky, and you know the, you know what else is really spooky? An Inside Job.

Joe Rogan 38:36 Yes. Yes.

Tim Dillon 38:36 An Inside Job, which shows th- it's about the financial crisis of 2008 and it shows how these people go from being, uh, professors who recommend certain regulations and requirements that are ultimately terrible for the economy, and then they get, uh, th- they get promoted as... L- like, once they leave, as professors, and they've, you know, they, they've l- whatever institution that they're at, then, then they get these giant jobs. They, that pay-

Joe Rogan 39:05 Right.

Tim Dillon 39:06 ... millions of dollars.

Joe Rogan 39:06 Right.

Tim Dillon 39:06 It's like this weird little deal that they make.

Joe Rogan 39:08 It's like this revolving door-

Tim Dillon 39:10 Yes.

Joe Rogan 39:10 ... between, a lot of times, between government, private industry-

Tim Dillon 39:13 Yes.

Joe Rogan 39:14 ... higher education. It's like-

Tim Dillon 39:15 Yes.

Joe Rogan 39:16 Yeah. It's c- creates the oligarchy.

Tim Dillon 39:18 Yes.

Joe Rogan 39:18 It creates that aristocracy.

Tim Dillon 39:19 But when the guy who... I don't, I don't remember who made that documentary, but he's obviously very well read in, in finance and he understands how it all worked.

Joe Rogan 39:30 Right.

Tim Dillon 39:30 And he was questioning these people. And you see them-

Joe Rogan 39:32 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 39:32 ... falling apart in the documentary.

Joe Rogan 39:34 Wow.

Tim Dillon 39:34 In the middle of the... Realizing that they've been trapped.

Joe Rogan 39:36 Wow.

Tim Dillon 39:36 And realizing that somebody understands the gig, somebody understands-

Joe Rogan 39:40 Somebody knows what's up.

Tim Dillon 39:41 ... like, this is the, this is what the hustle is.

Joe Rogan 39:42 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 39:42 It's, it's so illuminating-

Joe Rogan 39:43 It's-

Tim Dillon 39:44 ... 'cause they get ar- arrogant and angry at him, and you know-

Joe Rogan 39:47 Yeah. Well, it's like, it's like anything where you participate in it 'cause you think it's a fluff piece.

Tim Dillon 39:53 Y- y- yeah.

Joe Rogan 39:54 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 39:54 And also, you think that what you're doing is okay because it's what everyone does.

Joe Rogan 40:00 Right. And then you're introduced to this other-

Tim Dillon 40:02 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 40:03 ... mode of think-... Did you see the new article that came out that says they're allowing, like, tech companies to essentially form countries? I mean, this is like the craziest article that came out that people are sharing all over Twitter where they're like, it's... Like, a lot of them have the power of countries anyway, like you look at Amazon and Google and Fa- like, they're like-

Tim Dillon 40:20 Facebook. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 40:21 They have the money of a country, have a GDP of like a mid-sized country or decent sized country, and they have the political power. But there's this new article which is like, i- it talks about, uh, allowing them to like, actually, like... It's, it's crazy. It's like crazy thinking that they-

Tim Dillon 40:36 I did see the title of that article, but I didn't read it 'cause I didn't want to get sick.

Joe Rogan 40:40 Yeah. I mean, it's just (laughs)

Narrator 40:42 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 40:43 But I mean, you will eventually, they'll just have a Google-stan.

Tim Dillon 40:46 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 40:46 Where they just set up an island and they go, "We're Google-stan and we pay what taxes we want." And you know, "Fuck you. Why not?"

Tim Dillon 40:52 As long as they can go with, "Don't be evil."

Joe Rogan 40:54 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 40:54 Remember when they used to have that?

Joe Rogan 40:55 Yeah. That was comforting.

Tim Dillon 40:57 Don't do evil or don't, don't be e-

Joe Rogan 40:59 Don't do evil.

Tim Dillon 40:59 But, again-

Joe Rogan 40:59 By the way, as soon as someone wants to do evil, they Google how.

Tim Dillon 41:02 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 41:02 That's the first... (laughs) As soon as somebody wants it-

Tim Dillon 41:05 Teaching you use DuckDuckGo.

Joe Rogan 41:06 "How do I get away with murdering my wife?" On Google.

Tim Dillon 41:09 Yeah, see, if you wanna do that, use DuckDuckGo. It's way better and they don't-

Joe Rogan 41:13 What is DuckDuckGo?

Tim Dillon 41:13 They don't save your history. It's a-

Joe Rogan 41:15 Better search engine?

Tim Dillon 41:16 That's what I use.

Joe Rogan 41:17 Interesting.

Tim Dillon 41:17 If, yeah, if I wanna l- look up anything sketchy. So here's the thing about-

Joe Rogan 41:21 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 41:21 ... DuckDuckGo too, it'll show you things that Google will hide from you.

Joe Rogan 41:24 Wow.

Tim Dillon 41:25 Like, there was a doctor who died immediately after taking the vaccine and he was in his 50s.

Joe Rogan 41:30 Right.

Tim Dillon 41:31 Took the vaccine, he had an adverse reaction. Which, listen, it happens.

Joe Rogan 41:35 Sure.

Tim Dillon 41:35 It is a part of medicine. It doesn't mean the vaccine's evil. It doesn't mean Bill Gates is trying to kill everyone. But if you do a-... search that on Google, it's really difficult to find.

Joe Rogan 41:45 To find, yeah.

Tim Dillon 41:45 So I put in doctor, in his 50s, dies, vaccine, could not find it for the life of me. I used the exact same sentence, put it in DuckDuckGo, it was on the first page.

Joe Rogan 41:56 It's not... Yeah, you can get it.

Tim Dillon 41:56 It was right away.

Joe Rogan 41:57 Interesting.

Tim Dillon 41:57 Because they're not curating your search results.

Joe Rogan 41:59 Well, they also hid that- that Black West Indian doctor, that African doctor-

Tim Dillon 42:03 That lady, yes.

Joe Rogan 42:04 ... uh, God's Battle Axe & Weapon of War. They- they- (laughs) they got rid of her.

Tim Dillon 42:07 What is that one? (laughs)

Joe Rogan 42:08 God's Battle Axe & Weapon of War.

Tim Dillon 42:10 Is that what she calls herself?

Joe Rogan 42:10 Yeah, on her Twitter profile and they got rid of her. And I was like-

Tim Dillon 42:13 Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.

Joe Rogan 42:13 ... I wanted to listen to her.

Tim Dillon 42:14 Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. Really?

Joe Rogan 42:15 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Tim Dillon 42:16 She calls herself God's Battle Axe & Weapon of War?

Joe Rogan 42:18 Oh, yeah, on her Twitter. And they got rid of her. On Google, you couldn't find her.

Tim Dillon 42:22 Wasn't she in a strip mall? She had like a little office in a strip mall?

Joe Rogan 42:24 Yeah. She had like a- like a witch doctor thing in a s- ... in a strip mall with, like, those beads that you probably walked through. It looked like a scene from Gremlins.

Tim Dillon 42:31 (laughs) Those beads in the '80s-

Joe Rogan 42:32 Yeah, like 80 beads, yeah.

Tim Dillon 42:34 ... when you just go to a porn section of a- of a video store.

Joe Rogan 42:35 Oh, yeah. She probably had a shag carpet. She's probably sitting there smoking a butt.

Tim Dillon 42:39 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 42:40 You know, going, "I'll tell you the realities of this thing."

Tim Dillon 42:42 Well, the thing is that she was talking about hydroxychloroquine, right?

Joe Rogan 42:45 That was-

Tim Dillon 42:46 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 42:46 She said it was like the drug and she- and she would just take it when she grew up on Sundays.

Tim Dillon 42:50 See, this is-

Joe Rogan 42:50 (laughs) That's what she said.

Tim Dillon 42:51 That's- I don't think that's what she said.

Joe Rogan 42:52 I swear to... No, that's exactly... She was on The Candace Owens Show saying-

Tim Dillon 42:55 Yeah. God's Battle Axe & Weapon of War.

Joe Rogan 42:56 Yes! This woman is who I follow.

Tim Dillon 42:59 But here's the thing about that hydroxychloroquine. The fucking problem with Donald Trump is anything that was effective or anything that was true that was associated with Donald Trump was immediately rejected.

Joe Rogan 43:10 Yes. Yeah.

Tim Dillon 43:10 Whether it was the idea that... We were talking before the podcast.

Joe Rogan 43:14 Right.

Tim Dillon 43:14 That, uh, I had on an evolutionary bio- I had on Brett Weinstein.

Joe Rogan 43:18 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 43:18 Brett Weinstein was one of the first people that was talking about it is most likely that-

Joe Rogan 43:23 Yeah. It's from a lab.

Tim Dillon 43:24 ... this- this virus emanated from a lab.

Joe Rogan 43:27 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 43:27 And it's not a big stretch.

Joe Rogan 43:28 And he had a good argument.

Tim Dillon 43:29 He talked-

Joe Rogan 43:29 When you watched his argument, it was a solid argument.

Tim Dillon 43:31 He had a- he had a- he's a scientist.

Joe Rogan 43:32 Right.

Tim Dillon 43:32 He's a legitimate scientist. He's a-

Joe Rogan 43:34 Correct.

Tim Dillon 43:34 ... a brilliant person.

Joe Rogan 43:35 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 43:36 And he was saying that if you look at all of the various aspects of this virus, when you look at it, it's- it's much more likely, especially with the fact that there's a level four lab in Wuhan right there. This is not like some-

Joe Rogan 43:49 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 43:49 ... crazy stretch.

Joe Rogan 43:50 Yeah. It's crazy that... I don't understand why people think it's crazy and what their investment is-

Tim Dillon 43:55 It's- it's Trump.

Joe Rogan 43:56 It's Trump. It's all political, yeah.

Tim Dillon 43:57 It's 100% Trump. It's all about Trump.

Joe Rogan 43:58 'Cause I'm like, if... Who... Like, why are we treating it with such hostility? Why are we treating that possibility with such hostility? And the only thing is, yeah, that Trump came out and said it.

Tim Dillon 44:07 Well, the problem is, politics in this country are e- essentially they've reached this boiling point where the- the idea of promoting a civil war is not outside of the realm of possibility. It's in this- it's- it's in- it's in the space.

Joe Rogan 44:24 Right.

Tim Dillon 44:25 Like, what- what they're doing is anyone on that side (claps hands) is either a- a fucking snowflake or a- a communist or a fool or... And every- everyone on this spi- space is a Nazi and a- a- a-

Joe Rogan 44:38 Right.

Tim Dillon 44:39 ... right-wing fascist and a terrible person. And there's no gray area. (slaps hands) And- and this- you're seeing this with- with this storm that we're ha- we're having here.

Joe Rogan 44:47 Yeah. People are- people are... I do think that people don't have the energy anymore, because I've been seeing it on Twitter and I think that... I think p- I think we're a few weeks or months away from who cares?

Tim Dillon 44:59 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 45:00 I think Biden and Kamala, I think they're very boring. I think no one's gonna care. I think the far right and the far left, they just... They both lost, right? Like the people that are hardcore Trump people lost. The people who are hardcore on the far left don't like Biden. I just don't think that everyone's gonna live in this 24-hour political world forever. I-

Tim Dillon 45:17 It's exhausting.

Joe Rogan 45:18 I think it's over. I think it's o-... I think p- comedy is going to go back to being goofy and silly and people that made livings strictly talking about Trump or strictly talking about politics are gonna have a tough time of it. I think p-... You know, after the Iraq war, that's when like that alternative comedy scene started where people, like, started walking around with like top hats and ca-... It's like, because after the Iraq war and the- and the mortgage crisis, nobody wanted to hear about anything serious. So I think i- i- if we put a few months, uh, go a few months down the road, no one's gonna hear- wanna hear about COVID or Donald Trump. I think people are just ready for the next thing. So I'm hoping that this all kind of becomes more boring and silly and goofy and fun and more human.

Tim Dillon 45:59 Well, I hope people come to their senses and realize that we have more in common than we have, uh, in difference.

Joe Rogan 46:04 Right.

Tim Dillon 46:04 And that's- that's the reality of being a person. Like, uh, my neighbor is a- a- a crazy Biden supporter. Super nice person. Like, uh-

Joe Rogan 46:12 Right.

Tim Dillon 46:12 ... I- I- I like them.

Joe Rogan 46:14 Right.

Tim Dillon 46:14 You know, and I- I- I- I don't think that there's a- a- a r-... If you look at what people want, what do they want? In terms of- in- in times of crisis, like, it was a- a- a- agreed it was a fairly short-lived crisis in Austin. Today's 40 something degrees.

Joe Rogan 46:30 Right.

Tim Dillon 46:30 And the roads are clear and you can drive around and most people's water's coming back on, most people have power. There's... But in times of crisis, you- you realize that what is important, what's really impo-... And this is dark, right? Staying alive.

Joe Rogan 46:45 That's it.

Tim Dillon 46:45 Feeding your family-

Joe Rogan 46:46 Right.

Tim Dillon 46:46 ... and taking care of your loved ones.

Joe Rogan 46:48 Yes.

Tim Dillon 46:48 Check, "Hey, do you guys need food? We have food."

Joe Rogan 46:50 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 46:50 "Do you guys need wood? We have wood." Wh- "You have a fireplace?"

Joe Rogan 46:52 And I would- I would add to that your social media brand.

Tim Dillon 46:56 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 46:56 You have to always safeguard that as well.

Tim Dillon 47:00 I'm so glad you got me out of there.

Joe Rogan 47:01 I was reported-

Tim Dillon 47:03 I was on a serious road.

Joe Rogan 47:03 I was reported for cutting line at a Whataburger. I've lived here for a week.

Tim Dillon 47:08 Well, that's- that's a criminal offense.

Joe Rogan 47:09 Here's the reality.

Tim Dillon 47:10 This is Texas.

Joe Rogan 47:11 I was... Whataburger was the only thing open. Is it-

Tim Dillon 47:13 Why did you cut the line?

Joe Rogan 47:15 I didn't.

Tim Dillon 47:15 And why'd you cut the line with California plates?

Joe Rogan 47:17 There's this new-

Tim Dillon 47:17 In a fucking Range Rover?

Joe Rogan 47:18 There's this new game they're playing.

Tim Dillon 47:20 You were in a Range Rover?

Joe Rogan 47:21 I was in a Range Rover with California plates.

Tim Dillon 47:23 That's everything wrong with-

Joe Rogan 47:24 I know. And I had that stupid Bape hoodie on, that dumb- that, uh, hypebeast hoodie. But I- I turn and there's a dude in an F1. Because here's the deal, there were two lines converging on the Whataburger. I was in one line, but there was the other- the other line had like three or four cars. I didn't know that it was one and one. I didn't know that it was one car and then one car. I didn't know that.... I'm on, I'm not-

Tim Dillon 47:43 I don't know what you're saying.

Joe Rogan 47:44 Well, meaning when you have one line's coming in this way, and I'm coming in that way. S- We're supposed to let one line from my... One car from my line, and then one carfrom the other line.

Tim Dillon 47:53 What did you do?

Joe Rogan 47:55 I... A- After my guy (laughs) went, I went as well, because I didn't know that that was a legitimate line, 'cause my line was much longer, and there was no reason that people couldn't just be on my line. They had started another shorter line and were weaving into-

Tim Dillon 48:08 Are you justifying cutting the line?

Joe Rogan 48:10 I'm saying-

Tim Dillon 48:10 ... in your Range Rover with California plates?

Joe Rogan 48:11 ... this is to get... He didn't support me with the Airbnb, so I should've washed the dishes.

Tim Dillon 48:14 I'm confused. I'm confused. Oh, there you are. Is this your car? If so, l- what's this guy's name? Put his, put his name up there.

Joe Rogan 48:21 It's Neighbors Uncensored.

48:22 No, it's Neighbors Uncensored.

Tim Dillon 48:23 Neighbors Uncensored. Is this your car?

Joe Rogan 48:23 What kind of rats are we dealing with please?

Tim Dillon 48:25 Well, let's find out. First of all, they're the kind of rats that put a space after so-

Joe Rogan 48:29 (laughs)

Tim Dillon 48:29 ... and then a comma. Th- so, and then double question marks. Is this your car? If so, I hope cutting the line at Whataburger made you feel like a man. Did it?

Joe Rogan 48:40 I felt good.

Tim Dillon 48:41 Okay. And that you and your idiot copilot-

Joe Rogan 48:45 Dan.

Tim Dillon 48:45 ... your copilot, Dan, got a good snicker out of it like D-bags, like you tend to do. Oh, D-bags like you tend to do. Please remove your sorry ass back to California, or at least out of our community, you sorry POS. Wow.

Joe Rogan 49:01 First of all-

Tim Dillon 49:02 That's heavy.

Joe Rogan 49:02 ... can we stop with the Facebook ratting? This is unacceptable. If I had walked into-

Tim Dillon 49:07 Well, what's more-

Joe Rogan 49:07 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 49:07 ... unacceptable, you cutting the line, or them calling you out? Let's be real.

Joe Rogan 49:11 Well, it's supposed to be a tough state. Come and shoot me.

Tim Dillon 49:13 No, no, no.

Joe Rogan 49:13 Don't rat me out on fucking Facebook.

Tim Dillon 49:17 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 49:17 It... There's no... Ratting's never appropriate. I could've walked in on what-

Tim Dillon 49:19 So you really, genuinely-

Joe Rogan 49:20 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 49:20 ... really, if you were on ecstasy right now-

Joe Rogan 49:22 Yes.

Tim Dillon 49:22 ... would you admit that maybe you kind of thought something was wrong?

Joe Rogan 49:25 I didn't know that I did the wrong thing until after I had done it.

Tim Dillon 49:28 Oh, but you already did it.

Joe Rogan 49:29 I had already done it, so I didn't know how this worked. I wasn't-

Tim Dillon 49:32 You, what you could've done is pay for the guy behind you. Say, "Fuck, I, I messed up." Get out of your car, and go, "Hey, buddy. What'd you order? I'm sorry I fucked up. I'm ahead of you."

Joe Rogan 49:39 Pay for... I'll sponsor the Facebook ad where he shits on me. How about that?

Tim Dillon 49:43 Well, you don't know who it is-

Joe Rogan 49:43 I'll pay for him to boost his post.

Tim Dillon 49:45 ... that's the problem.

Joe Rogan 49:45 I didn't know who it was.

Tim Dillon 49:46 It's Neighbors Uncensored.

Joe Rogan 49:46 I didn't know who it was, but if he wants me to boost his post where he calls me a piece of shit, I'll pay for that.

Tim Dillon 49:51 What if we get that guy, figure out who it is, and get him some tickets to one of your shows?

Joe Rogan 49:55 I'll do that.

Tim Dillon 49:56 I'll look into that.

Joe Rogan 49:56 I will absolutely do that.

Tim Dillon 49:57 We need to make this right.

Joe Rogan 49:58 If, if he f- fines me or whatever, I'll absolutely do it. But, it's like, I've had a real bad string of people... I was thrown off Airbnb. This is a fact. You did not support me on this.

Tim Dillon 50:09 I did.

Joe Rogan 50:10 You did not. You said, "Uh, he should've done the dishes."

Tim Dillon 50:13 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 50:13 This was your quote.

Tim Dillon 50:14 Yeah, you should've done the dishes.

Joe Rogan 50:14 Joe-

Tim Dillon 50:15 But you shouldn't have been thrown off of Airbnb.

Joe Rogan 50:17 Okay. Well that's-

Tim Dillon 50:17 But you shouldn't leave dirty dishes.

Joe Rogan 50:19 Joe, we pay a $450 cleaning fee.

Tim Dillon 50:23 Oh.

Joe Rogan 50:24 Airbnb. A 450... They do this scam now. They call it COVID cleaning, which is f- th- fake, because regular cleaning and COVID cleaning are the same thing. Cleaning is cleaning. You're not going in there with hazmat suits.

Tim Dillon 50:34 Why did you leave the plates?

Joe Rogan 50:35 What do you mean wh- I'm... What?

Tim Dillon 50:38 Why didn't you just clean the plates?

Joe Rogan 50:39 Because this is a vacation.

Tim Dillon 50:41 Are you supposed to clean the plates?

Joe Rogan 50:42 I don't know what the rules are, but I don't like the service if that's the case.

Tim Dillon 50:46 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 50:47 I won't-

Tim Dillon 50:47 You feel like you should be able to leave dirty plates.

Joe Rogan 50:49 Not if I... If I pay $450 for a cleaning fee, you should... And, and the thing is, there were two lesbian women, and I mentioned that.

Tim Dillon 50:56 (gasps)

Joe Rogan 50:57 And that's why I was kicked off Airbnb, because they thought-

Tim Dillon 50:59 'Cause you mentioned their, their sexual orientation.

Joe Rogan 51:01 'Cause I, I, I mentioned that they were lesbian and th- they had a horribly designed house, and they should've maybe asked a gay guy or someone to fix it. But th-

Tim Dillon 51:08 Well, as a gay guy, what have you done? What would you have done, rather, to fix it?

Joe Rogan 51:12 Well, all the furniture, well, you couldn't sit in. It was like art pieces.

Tim Dillon 51:16 Ah.

Joe Rogan 51:16 All of their furniture was like... It was like a little-

Tim Dillon 51:19 Wait a minute. You couldn't sit in, or Tony Hinchcliffe couldn't sit in?

Joe Rogan 51:22 Tony Hinchcliffe is a bird.

Tim Dillon 51:23 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 51:25 He can perch on things. I'm a human. A human.

Tim Dillon 51:28 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 51:28 I'm an American human.

Tim Dillon 51:30 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 51:30 We can't sit on a fucking leather cowhide chair. It's an art pie- like this is... It was-

Tim Dillon 51:37 What's wrong with the piece? Explain.

Joe Rogan 51:37 It was like... It was a, a chair of like sticks, with like leather cowhide. There were these weird stools.

Tim Dillon 51:42 Did you take pictures of these things?

Joe Rogan 51:43 I took all the photos. I put them on my Instagram. I was like, "These are-"

Tim Dillon 51:45 Let's see these things.

Joe Rogan 51:46 These are not for human beings. These are for like lesbians to drink tea and perch and whatever. But like, I n-

Tim Dillon 51:53 Why lesbians though? Why do you, why do you care about their sexual orientations? That's why you got kicked off?

Joe Rogan 51:56 Because they're insufferable. They were insufferable. They wore little hats and had a dog.

Tim Dillon 52:00 Little hats?

Joe Rogan 52:01 They had little weird hats, and they had a dog.

Tim Dillon 52:03 Do you like big hats?

Joe Rogan 52:05 Yeah, but like-

Tim Dillon 52:05 You don't like dogs?

Joe Rogan 52:06 I, I... Not the... Th- They had like a weird Weimaraner.

Tim Dillon 52:10 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 52:10 I just knew who they were. I knew who they... I could see the photo and went, "I knew who they were." And they probably saw my photo and went, "I hate that fat conservative fuck," or whatever, even though I'm, I'm really in the middle politically, and even weight-wise, but...

Tim Dillon 52:23 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 52:23 In this state. But they got mad at me, and they got me off Airbnb because I discussed this on my podcast in a colorful manner. And like, I quote unquote threatened to burn their house down as a joke. I'm not burning your house down.

Tim Dillon 52:36 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 52:37 It's a bit... I'm not gonna burn your house down. But I said like, "Watch your back. Who knows what happens..."

Tim Dillon 52:42 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 52:42 It's a joke. But these women don't get jokes. And I... It's not my fault. But like, to, to, to, to give me a horrible review, and-

Tim Dillon 52:50 How did they find out that you talked about them online on your show?

Joe Rogan 52:54 It's a decent sized show.

Tim Dillon 52:56 Yeah?

Joe Rogan 52:56 So I think... Yeah, yeah. It's big. I mean, it's... We're not... Okay. You, you guys win. But, it's big enough where, if we say something on it, it got, it got back to them. One of their minions told them. And they were, uh... First of all, they asked me to give them a good review, which you're not allowed to do in the Airbnb process. Right before I wrote the review, the... I've never given anyone a bad review on Airbnb. I don't do it.

Tim Dillon 53:16 They asked you-

Joe Rogan 53:16 I'm not around.

Tim Dillon 53:17 ... to give them a good review.

Joe Rogan 53:17 They texted me and said, "Hey, our cleaning lady came, had a stroke, LOL, but just give us a good review." And I'm like-

Tim Dillon 53:22 She said LOL?

Joe Rogan 53:23 Yeah. I was like, "I don't know why she had a stroke, 'cause it's literally dishes. Has your cleaning lady not encountered dishes before?"

Tim Dillon 53:28 There's no, uh, bl- if like they took black light and scanned the walls-

Joe Rogan 53:32 No.

Tim Dillon 53:32 ... they wouldn't be surprised?

Joe Rogan 53:33 There's nothing. I even left them a tartar sauce and said, "Use it." Because we didn't use it.

Tim Dillon 53:37 Kind.

Joe Rogan 53:38 So...

Narrator 53:39 That's kind of clear.

Joe Rogan 53:39 Yeah, but t- I mean, look at that.

Tim Dillon 53:42 I like it.

Joe Rogan 53:43 Oh, of course. Of course you do.This is mentalist. These people want to just do ayahuasca.

Tim Dillon 53:49 What's that hole in the wall? What's that- is that a fireplace or is that a square hole?

Joe Rogan 53:51 Yeah, which you can't use 'cause they're not insured for it.

Tim Dillon 53:53 What is that square hole?

Joe Rogan 53:54 It was his fireplace that you can't use.

Tim Dillon 53:57 Why is it so high?

Joe Rogan 53:57 It's weird, dude.

Tim Dillon 53:57 It's a fireplace that's, like, chest level. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 53:59 It's, it's a cold environment.

Tim Dillon 54:02 Isn't that a weird... I mean, aren't fireplaces supposed to be on the ground floor? Like, why is this... Is that really-

Joe Rogan 54:06 The whole house is crazy.

Tim Dillon 54:07 That's c- really, a fireplace?

Joe Rogan 54:08 I mean, they're culturally appropriating Native America. It's just, the whole thing makes me sick.

Tim Dillon 54:11 Maybe they're Native American. You don't know.

Joe Rogan 54:12 They are not.

Tim Dillon 54:14 How do you know?

Joe Rogan 54:15 Because I've seen them.

Tim Dillon 54:16 But what about Elizabeth Warren?

Joe Rogan 54:18 That's a good point.

Tim Dillon 54:19 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 54:20 But I was-

Tim Dillon 54:20 That fireplace is in a weird place.

Joe Rogan 54:22 It's weird. The whole house is weird.

Tim Dillon 54:23 It's an oven. It's a pizza oven.

Joe Rogan 54:24 The whole house is weird, and I'd just left... There was a few dishes in the sink.

Tim Dillon 54:27 Show me that picture again.

Joe Rogan 54:28 And the, and the review of me was like, "This guy was a horrible guest." They said I broke a cactus, which is literally impossible.

Tim Dillon 54:34 You can break cactuses.

Joe Rogan 54:35 How? Wh- by crunching the spikes with my hands?

Tim Dillon 54:38 You fall on them when you're on ecstasy.

Joe Rogan 54:40 Yeah, I mean these, these, these-

Tim Dillon 54:41 I don't understand what I'm looking at.

Joe Rogan 54:42 Correct.

Tim Dillon 54:43 So there's, like, a log that's a-

Joe Rogan 54:44 1,000 a night, 1,200 a night, 2,200.

Tim Dillon 54:46 I like it. I'd, I'd stay there.

Joe Rogan 54:47 I got it for half. Oh, no.

Tim Dillon 54:48 I really would.

Joe Rogan 54:49 It's absolutely repulsive.

Tim Dillon 54:51 I would sit in those chairs and be really comfortable.

Joe Rogan 54:53 Joshua, Joshua Tree is a litter box for drug addicts.

Tim Dillon 54:56 No, it's for people who like to do mushrooms and find themselves.

Joe Rogan 54:58 Oh, enough.

Tim Dillon 54:59 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 54:59 Get a, get... Grow up and get a real drug problem. Take a Percocet at your office, okay?

Tim Dillon 55:05 Ugh.

Joe Rogan 55:05 Not everything has to be a journey to hyperspace.

Tim Dillon 55:07 Not everything, but some things.

Joe Rogan 55:09 Sure, I just am a fan of pill heads and coke heads.

Tim Dillon 55:12 Joshua Tree-

Joe Rogan 55:12 I like people that are productive.

Tim Dillon 55:13 But you're in Joshua Tree. That's the place where psychedelic people go.

Joe Rogan 55:16 It's crazy. Oh, and I used to do acid and go to a bar like a person.

Tim Dillon 55:20 Yeah. Right, right, right, right. I get it, yeah.

Joe Rogan 55:21 I didn't, I didn't have to... If I... I would be a subprime mortgage guy. I would do acid, and I would cross over. Like, if I did DMT, I would go, and when you s- meet the aliens and they give you all the information about how the world is... I would have tried to sell them condos. You know, I would have brought them into my world.

Tim Dillon 55:37 I like it. Relaxation happens here. I bet it does.

Joe Rogan 55:40 Yeah, washing dishes. That sounds relaxing.

Tim Dillon 55:42 I don't like the bars on the chair, like, the square.

Joe Rogan 55:44 Oh, the thing is ha- it's horrible.

Tim Dillon 55:46 Like, sitting on that, the, the... Where... I wouldn't know where to put my hands. I'd probably put them below those metal bars.

Joe Rogan 55:52 This is really...

Tim Dillon 55:54 Look at that lady. I like how she's sitting. Fuck. Wait, go back to that.

Joe Rogan 55:57 The pool was cold.

Tim Dillon 55:58 Can you go back to that picture? That lady's hot. I like that. Ooh.

Joe Rogan 56:02 This is... Well, they're fatphobic.

Tim Dillon 56:03 But look it, she's nate- she's naked. Is she naked?

Joe Rogan 56:05 And this is... Yeah. This is what they're trying to do here.

Tim Dillon 56:06 No, there's a... in his apartment. Two colors.

Joe Rogan 56:06 They're upset that human beings rented their apartment.

Tim Dillon 56:10 Is that a bathing suit? It's, it's hard to tell because it's in black and white, but she's hot. I like how she's just reading. She's like, "Even though I'm hot, I just want to educate myself."

Joe Rogan 56:16 Yeah, this is, this is-

Tim Dillon 56:18 Then there's another lady who wants to be hot.

Joe Rogan 56:18 Yeah, this is who they... Yeah, that's re- that's a realistic-

Tim Dillon 56:20 Look at the guy.

Joe Rogan 56:20 Yeah, that's realistic.

Tim Dillon 56:20 Look at this guy. Look at his six pack.

Joe Rogan 56:21 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 56:21 He hasn't eaten in months.

Joe Rogan 56:23 That's realistic.

Tim Dillon 56:23 That guy's shredded, and he's hanging out with a super-hot girlfriend.

Joe Rogan 56:26 There's a few dishes in that sink.

Tim Dillon 56:28 This is a great pl- Tim Dillon, I want to buy this house. This is a great place.

Joe Rogan 56:30 Can you stop?

Tim Dillon 56:31 I like it.

Joe Rogan 56:32 Yeah, that-

Tim Dillon 56:33 Ooh, it's a, a high-fi.

Joe Rogan 56:34 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 56:35 That's a high-fi.

Joe Rogan 56:36 Oh, is it? Yeah.

Tim Dillon 56:36 Yeah, it's a high-fidelity sound system.

Joe Rogan 56:37 This was not... It was not conducive to having fun at all. I didn't-

Tim Dillon 56:40 Dude, when Manson was running around killing people, that was the shit.

Joe Rogan 56:43 I didn't say anything bad about it.

Tim Dillon 56:45 Look at that view. You can see the cactus and the coyotes.

Joe Rogan 56:47 Oh, isn't that good?

Tim Dillon 56:48 I fucking love it.

Joe Rogan 56:49 Ah, you loved it so much, you moved states.

Tim Dillon 56:51 I would... Listen, I could get a house there.

Joe Rogan 56:52 Look at this. I mean, come on. That's, that's, th- that's... We're starting to get crazy.

Tim Dillon 56:56 Tim, you're talking to the wrong guy. I love this house.

Joe Rogan 56:58 I know, I know.

Narrator 56:59 There's chairs.

Tim Dillon 56:59 I love the chairs. Well, listen, I don't believe-

Joe Rogan 57:01 Look at the chair. Look at that chair.

Tim Dillon 57:02 I don't believe in backs to chairs because I have good posture. Look at how I sit.

Joe Rogan 57:08 I left four dishes-

Tim Dillon 57:10 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 57:10 ... and these people treated, treated me.

Tim Dillon 57:12 Well, why the fuck didn't you just clean those four dishes and we'd have no problem?

Joe Rogan 57:14 Because I'm paying a massive cleaning fee. This is, this is-

Tim Dillon 57:17 Why... Save that money.

Joe Rogan 57:18 No, no, no, no, no, no.

Tim Dillon 57:19 Don't make me do the starving thing.

Joe Rogan 57:19 You have to pay. It's fr- you have to. You're forced to.

Tim Dillon 57:21 Is that the cactus you broke?

Joe Rogan 57:23 No, that's a cactus. It was broke when I walked in.

Tim Dillon 57:25 Was it broke?

Joe Rogan 57:25 It was broke 'cause somebody was probably, I don't know, shoving their pussy. (drum roll) It was broke when I walked in.

Tim Dillon 57:29 (laughs) The most epic hallway you've ever seen.

Joe Rogan 57:31 That's not true.

Tim Dillon 57:32 Yeah, it's that really... Is that the most epic hallway you've ever seen?

Joe Rogan 57:34 That's not true. That's not true. I've been to some nice houses. That's not true. I like that espresso machine though. It's all fine.

Tim Dillon 57:39 I like a lot of this house. I like this house. I, I do.

Joe Rogan 57:42 It's all fine.

Tim Dillon 57:43 I like this house a lot.

Joe Rogan 57:43 It's all fine. The women were out of control and again, I... If you look at my review, I said nice things.

Tim Dillon 57:49 I think I need to be your liaison-

Joe Rogan 57:50 I've always said nice things.

Tim Dillon 57:50 ... to, uh, lesbians.

Joe Rogan 57:52 I, I always said nice things, and they just said to me, like, I was a horrible guest. If you look at their review of me, they said I was a horrible guest.

Tim Dillon 57:58 Why were you horrible?

Joe Rogan 57:59 Well, they said I, I left the house in disarray and I broke the cactus and whatever, and nobody broke anything.

Tim Dillon 58:03 You know what you should do? Well, you can't do it anymore 'cause you're not on AirBnB anymore, but you should just make a video of you leaving the house, and then no one can say shit.

Joe Rogan 58:11 Well, I'd like to get back on AirBnB because I, I made them... I did... I spent money on there, and that's where I would go and use to travel and not do hotels. I would do AirBnBs, especially-

Tim Dillon 58:19 It's a good move.

Joe Rogan 58:20 ... when you have an opener and you have people who come over, people... You're a podcast producer.

Tim Dillon 58:23 You can get some nice-

Joe Rogan 58:24 Yeah, it's much better.

Tim Dillon 58:25 ... nice food.

Joe Rogan 58:25 So I'd like to go back on AirBnB, but we'll see what happens.

Tim Dillon 58:28 Do-

Joe Rogan 58:28 That's okay.

Tim Dillon 58:28 Is there an avenue for reconciliation?

Joe Rogan 58:31 I don't believe so.

Tim Dillon 58:33 These ladies, whoever you are, ladies. Tim's a good guy, and I'm your fan. I'm a fan of you. I like what you did with that place. I like it. I like the, the chairs with no backs to them. I like it. I like the weird chairs.

Joe Rogan 58:44 Yes.

Tim Dillon 58:45 I like your view. I like your house. Look at that. You can sit out there by the pool and watch the guy with the ripped abs and his girlfriend fuck. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 58:53 I mean, this is like, this is like a F- a FEMA tent.

Tim Dillon 58:56 No, it's not. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 58:56 This is a FEMA property.

Tim Dillon 58:57 That's not. That's not.

Joe Rogan 58:59 It's got... You get tarantulas and lizards and scorpions.

Tim Dillon 59:02 It's not.

Joe Rogan 59:02 The whole thing is not.

Tim Dillon 59:03 It's a nice little pool. It's a beautiful view. Look, those people are enjoying it. Why can't you enjoy it?

Joe Rogan 59:08 They're not real. Those people don't exist.

Tim Dillon 59:10 The hot, the hot guy and his hot girlfriend, they're real.

Joe Rogan 59:12 They're not real. They don't exist.

Tim Dillon 59:13 They work out at the Onut Gym. They're right down the street.

Joe Rogan 59:15 They hired these people. These are not Americans.

Tim Dillon 59:17 They're a mile away from us. We can visit them right now.

Joe Rogan 59:19 I speak for Amer- You're a Hollywood elitist. I speak for Americans.

Tim Dillon 59:21 I am, but I live here.

Joe Rogan 59:22 I know, but that doesn't matter. I speak for Americans who make hot dogs and sometimes leave the, the plates at the thing 'cause we're paying a $450 cleaning fee. And I just think that we should be able to... You should be able to come in and clean it. I... You know what I mean?

Tim Dillon 59:35 I understand that.

Joe Rogan 59:35 You love the house so much, you clean it, ladies. So anyway, I'd like to get back on there, but I won't, I won't be allowed and that's okay too because I speak-

Tim Dillon 59:44 Maybe they will let you back on.

Joe Rogan 59:45 I would imagine not.I violated some safety protocol, I don't know.

Tim Dillon 59:49 Which, uh, protocols?

Joe Rogan 59:50 The safety one.

Tim Dillon 59:52 Which one is the safety? (laughs)

Joe Rogan 59:53 The one where you can't threaten to burn down people's homes, I think.

Tim Dillon 59:56 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 59:56 I spoke to my lawyer. He said to just leave it alone.

Tim Dillon 59:59 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:00:00 My lawyer was like, "Just leave it alone."

Tim Dillon 1:00:02 (claps)

Joe Rogan 1:00:02 He goes, "I don't know what you're doing." I'm like, "I'm in a, a high octane war with a few desert lesbian-

Tim Dillon 1:00:07 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:00:07 ... a few desert, there's two desert dykes that are gunning for me and I'm gonna fucking keep, I'm gonna ride this-"

Tim Dillon 1:00:12 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:00:12 "... till the wheels go off." And my lawyer's like, "Hey man, what are you doing?"

Tim Dillon 1:00:16 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:00:17 So, yeah.

Tim Dillon 1:00:17 What am I doing? I'm boosting up my fucking podcast, stupid.

Joe Rogan 1:00:20 Yeah, I, I, I'm, I'm trying to fight the good fight.

Tim Dillon 1:00:22 How do you think I get paid? That's what you should tell him.

Joe Rogan 1:00:24 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 1:00:24 How do you think I get paid?

Joe Rogan 1:00:24 It's a good point.

Tim Dillon 1:00:25 No.

Joe Rogan 1:00:26 So, and I didn't involve Alex Jones. Could have. Chose not to.

Tim Dillon 1:00:28 Don't do that.

Joe Rogan 1:00:29 I'm kidding.

Tim Dillon 1:00:30 That's nuclear.

Joe Rogan 1:00:30 I'm joking.

Tim Dillon 1:00:30 That's the nuclear option.

Joe Rogan 1:00:31 That's the nuclear option.

Tim Dillon 1:00:32 Yeah, don't, don't.

Joe Rogan 1:00:33 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 1:00:33 Because he'll find some reason why it's connected to-

Joe Rogan 1:00:35 He'll say the Airbnb didn't exist.

Tim Dillon 1:00:36 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:00:36 But we'll figure... (laughs)

Tim Dillon 1:00:38 (laughs) He'll find one, some reason why it's connected to the globalists-

Joe Rogan 1:00:41 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 1:00:42 ... or Satanists or-

Joe Rogan 1:00:42 Yeah, something.

Tim Dillon 1:00:44 ... something. Hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:00:44 I gotta see him. I just got down here. I haven't seen him. I wanna go have dinner with him.

Tim Dillon 1:00:48 I'm very happy that people are changing their opinion about him.

Joe Rogan 1:00:51 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 1:00:51 Slowly but surely. They're, they're understanding why I've been friends with this guy for 20 years.

Joe Rogan 1:00:55 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 1:00:55 He's a fucking hugely entertaining person. He's definitely-

Joe Rogan 1:00:58 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 1:00:58 ... made some mistakes, but I love that guy. Jamie and I had dinner with him and Lex Fridman the other day. We ha- we had a gr... How, how fun was that?

Narrator 1:01:04 That was great. I mean, I had a private podcast that no one else gets to-

Joe Rogan 1:01:07 (laughs)

Narrator 1:01:07 ... listen to.

Tim Dillon 1:01:07 It was...

Joe Rogan 1:01:07 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 1:01:08 We, we got a private room at Three Forks, which is a great steak place here.

Joe Rogan 1:01:11 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I know, I've been there.

Tim Dillon 1:01:12 Fucking phenomenal steak place.

Joe Rogan 1:01:13 It's great.

Tim Dillon 1:01:14 We sat down. We had so much fun. We had so much fun.

Joe Rogan 1:01:17 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 1:01:17 People get so mad that I, I f- I'm friends with that guy, that I hang out with him.

Joe Rogan 1:01:21 Yeah, people get really angry.

Tim Dillon 1:01:22 I enjoy him.

Joe Rogan 1:01:23 He's a very interesting character. If you look at the history of the type of s- stuff, like alternative media, or radio, or, uh, whatever, you, you are forced to confront him at some point in that history, right? 'Cause he's this seminal figure in that movement, and he's pissed everyone that's ever existed, and everyone has at one time hated him, Republicans, Democrats-

Tim Dillon 1:01:47 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:01:47 ... everybody.

Tim Dillon 1:01:47 Well, initially-

Joe Rogan 1:01:48 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 1:01:48 ... he was the guy that went after Republicans.

Joe Rogan 1:01:50 Yeah.

Tim Dillon 1:01:50 He got e- on, he became prominent because he was going after George W.-

Joe Rogan 1:01:56 Right.

Tim Dillon 1:01:56 ... when George W. was running for president.

Joe Rogan 1:01:59 Right.

Tim Dillon 1:01:59 And he was,