Joe Rogan Experience #1620 - Nate Bargatze

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Nate Bargatze 0:04 The Joe Rogan Experience.

Joe Rogan 0:06 Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (instrumental music plays)

Nate Bargatze 0:14 Hello. Hello.

Joe Rogan 0:15 Welcome to Austin, Texas.

Nate Bargatze 0:17 I know.

Joe Rogan 0:17 How you doing?

Nate Bargatze 0:18 I'm good.

Joe Rogan 0:18 You're a Nashville resident now, huh?

Nate Bargatze 0:20 I am, yeah. I'm from there, so-

Joe Rogan 0:22 When did you move back?

Nate Bargatze 0:23 Uh, it's been six years. I was, uh, I started in Chicago. I moved from Nashville to Chicago first, and then New York for about nine years, and then, uh, LA for a couple. And I started touring on the road, like, a lot more, and then I moved, uh, back to Nashville. It was the first, what I thought to myself, the first unselfish thing I did for my family- (laughs)

Joe Rogan 0:44 Mm-hmm.

Nate Bargatze 0:45 ... in comedy-

Joe Rogan 0:45 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 0:45 ... was to get ... I was being gone so much. We have an eight-year-old. I mean, at the time we had a two-year-old, so, uh, and so I was, like, just leaving 'em, you know? And I was like, "Uh, let's just go." When I first moved back, I didn't tell anybody.

Joe Rogan 0:59 Really?

Nate Bargatze 0:59 I was afraid people would think I'd quit comedy.

Joe Rogan 1:03 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 1:03 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:03 Isn't that weird?

Nate Bargatze 1:05 I know. I was so, I was-

Joe Rogan 1:06 Like you could only do comedy in a couple places.

Nate Bargatze 1:08 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:09 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 1:09 I was so scared. I had my buddy, Rory Scovel, co- like, he ... I moved, didn't tell him, and he came to Nashville and I was like, "Hey, I'll pick you up at the airport. I, I'm, like, at my parent's house." And then I picked him up and drove to my home and I was like, "I've been gone for six months." 'Cause I realized we, w- we weren't seeing anybody, you know?

Joe Rogan 1:28 Yeah. Yeah, the, if you're on the road a lot it, it almost doesn't matter where you live as long as you have a workout room.

Nate Bargatze 1:35 Yes.

Joe Rogan 1:35 And you, uh, you, Zanies? Is that your spot?

Nate Bargatze 1:37 I use Zanies.

Joe Rogan 1:38 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 1:38 But I would do, uh, Zanies is my workout room. I started changing where I really started working out on the road. Like, it was doing, just constantly touring.

Joe Rogan 1:47 Mm-hmm.

Nate Bargatze 1:48 And so I liked building the act, you know, in that long format, like, doing that hour.

Joe Rogan 1:55 Right.

Nate Bargatze 1:55 Like I'm doing it right now. And so, like, having to build it where y- ... I would always ... I open with new and I like to see how far I can get, and then, so I can have some kinda gauge.

Joe Rogan 2:05 So you open with new?

Nate Bargatze 2:07 Yeah, 'cause you're the most excited about it.

Joe Rogan 2:08 Right, it's fresh.

Nate Bargatze 2:09 And it's fresh, and, like, and usually your audiences will give you the, the most grace at the top.

Joe Rogan 2:16 Mm-hmm.

Nate Bargatze 2:16 So you can kinda be like, "Ah, let me just ... I'm excited about them. I'm the most excited about these jokes. I'm gonna get a little grace from 'em 'cause they're excited that you're coming out." And then so I do that, and then, and then I can get a real timing. 'Cause, you know, one time, uh, I mixed in old and new after a special, and I remember a guy afterwards, like, being like, "Oh, he did, like, all old stuff." And I was like, "No, I did half new." Because it's mixed in, they don't know.

Joe Rogan 2:41 Right.

Nate Bargatze 2:41 And so that way, if I do, if I open with it, I mean, I'll even, t- like, after a special if I got, like, 40 new and I have to close with, from the 20 from the special, I'll tell the crowd. I was like, "All right, that's all the new jokes I got."

Joe Rogan 2:52 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 2:52 And then they feel like, "Oh." Then afterwards they're like-

Joe Rogan 2:54 Right.

Nate Bargatze 2:54 ... "Well, I got so many new jokes."

Joe Rogan 2:57 (laughs) Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 2:57 And they feel great about it. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 2:59 That's an interesting, um, change of thought process between, like, the old guard and, like, the, the newer comics that are doing specials on a regular basis. Like, the olden days, guys would keep an act forever.

Nate Bargatze 3:12 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 3:12 They'd keep an act for 10, 15, 20 years.

Nate Bargatze 3:15 I mean, it was, uh, so I, when I started I moved to, uh ... Actually, I have a story with you-

Joe Rogan 3:20 Oh, yeah?

Nate Bargatze 3:20 ... about first starting.

Joe Rogan 3:22 Oh.

Nate Bargatze 3:22 You were responsible for basically the first time I ever went on stage. Uh, I mean, almost in a comedy. I think Zanies Chicago might've been the first actual club I went to. It was either that or The Comedy Store. So I was friends with, uh, a buddy of mine, Josh Baker. He was in the band Prom Kings. Do you remember a band? I think-

Joe Rogan 3:39 Sure, yeah. Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 3:40 And so we came out to LA to stay, hang out with him, and he, uh, and so they knew you. And so this is, I mean, I think it's 2003 or '04, and I'd, I'd been doing comedy maybe a year. And so we come out and then we, you invite us to, to show at The Comedy Store. So we come watch you, we sit in the front row. I remember all this stuff that's like a nightmare as a comic-

Joe Rogan 4:01 Wow.

Nate Bargatze 4:01 ... now when you think back. Then I didn't care.

Joe Rogan 4:03 A- had you been thinking about doing it already?

Nate Bargatze 4:05 I already started.

Joe Rogan 4:06 Oh, you did. Okay, yeah.

Nate Bargatze 4:06 I moved to Chicago, so I was in, I was in Chicago with, like, Hannibal and Pete Holmes and TJ Miller and Kumail. Like, that was kind of the group that was in Chicago. So, I'm, we went from Chicago to LA to go just visit. And so we hung out with them, we go to your show. You introduced them at one of their shows 'cause y- I guess you were good friends with these people or with the, with the band, or you liked this band. And so you introduced them, and I remember I talked to you afterwards. Like, e- we were, like, at this show and I'm, like, talking about comedy. I'm trying not to be ... I'm, I'm, I'm a new comic, so I don't even really know what to ask. You were very, very nice. And then, uh, we go watch you, then you said you were gonna go up at The Comedy Store, and I was like ... It was when you had to sign up for the open mic the week later, so you sign up for the Monday to go up the next week. And I was like, "Well," I was like, "I'm not gonna be here." And, uh, you go, "Oh, I'll call." And then you got me on sta- that you called and said, "Hey, he's just in town doing this." I'm gonna do that my year coming.

Joe Rogan 5:01 Look at this.

Nate Bargatze 5:01 And so-

Joe Rogan 5:01 It worked out.

Nate Bargatze 5:02 It worked out-

Joe Rogan 5:03 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 5:03 ... dude. They brought me up, they go, uh, "This next comic's, uh, one of Joe Rogan's best friends."

Joe Rogan 5:08 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 5:09 (laughs) And then they were, I mean, the other comics were just furious and I'm like, "I don't," I was like, "We met him last night. He's a very nice guy." (laughs)

Joe Rogan 5:16 (laughs) You know, that's an- a funny thing, man. The, those little, like, nudges and, like, uh, little pieces of good, like, uh, like, criticism or good, you know, uh, uh, uh, praise from a comic when you're starting out, like, that can go so far.

Nate Bargatze 5:33 So far.

Joe Rogan 5:34 So for m- I remember to this day, like, uh, Lenny Clarke, I'd, I'd done stand-up ... I'd done it for, like, a year, and I'd gotten paid one time before. This was the second time I ever got paid. And I opened up for Lenny Clarke in Pittsfield, Massachusetts. This was after Lenny-

Nate Bargatze 5:49 I think I've done this show.

Joe Rogan 5:50 Really?

Nate Bargatze 5:50 This gig, yeah.

Joe Rogan 5:51 Is it Jay's? Jay's in Pittsfield?

Nate Bargatze 5:53 Was it in a hotel?

Joe Rogan 5:54 Um, I don't think so.

Nate Bargatze 5:55 I've done a Pittsfield mask.

Joe Rogan 5:57 Uh, it was, uh, like, a nightclub.

Nate Bargatze 5:59 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 5:59 And it was, it was, like, one of the best road gigs. Like, everybody get ex- ... It was a three-hour drive from Boston, but it was one of those road gigs where everybody would get excited. And this was after Lenny had been on HBO. He was on the Rodney Dangerfield young comedian special. Eh, the Rodney, whatever-

Nate Bargatze 6:14 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 6:14 ... Rodney called it. And so-... see- just being around him was crazy. And then opening for him was even more crazy. And then after I got off stage, he was like, "Kid, you're really funny," like with that crazy Boston accent. And man, that powered me through, like, years. For three years-

Nate Bargatze 6:30 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 6:30 ... I was g- I was like, "Oh, man, I'm doing this."

Nate Bargatze 6:33 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 6:33 Like, I'm, I'm never quitting now.

Nate Bargatze 6:35 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 6:35 Like, Lenny Clarke said I'm funny? Fuck.

Nate Bargatze 6:37 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 6:37 I'm, I'm good.

Nate Bargatze 6:37 It's the, it's the, (clears throat) it's gigantic.

Joe Rogan 6:40 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 6:40 Like, that was you doing that at that time, A, I d- I knew The Comedy Store, but it's not like I even really n- And then it was like going to New York and then being like, I've already done The Comedy Store, at le- even it was the open mic. It was just, I saw the world, and I got to see the world. And then talking to you at that, uh, the band, you were just talking about going up and like you gotta go up, like, you know, stuff that you would say to comics, but-

Joe Rogan 7:03 Right.

Nate Bargatze 7:04 ... it was like stuff that I didn't know at that time, and you realize, you know, that, like that d- that's enormous. Yeah, that's enormous. I did that Pittsfield, Mass gig, uh, I th- 'cause I was in New York. I opened up for Tony V.

Joe Rogan 7:18 Oh, I love Tony V.

Nate Bargatze 7:19 Uh, yeah. And they... I was the host. Got paid 500 bucks, it was crazy. Like, I was like, "This is cra-" Hey, I've never been paid 500 bucks for a gig.

Joe Rogan 7:27 Right.

Nate Bargatze 7:27 It's packed. It's sold out. I mean, you just murder. And I thought maybe I wasn't at a hotel, I don't remember what. My wife went with me, it was a big night. They give me 500 bucks cash. I end up, later on (laughs) the night, I lose the $500.

Joe Rogan 7:39 Oh, no.

Nate Bargatze 7:39 It just falls out. Why... So the night goes from this amazing night with my wife for 500 bucks, to now we're in a fight. And, uh, I end up in... But I mean, I still think it. I'd tell her every day, I would... 'Cause at the time, I was like, "W- you ever gonna remember this $500?" Like, I always kinda lived by that motto.

Joe Rogan 7:55 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 7:55 Like, I'll get another $500. And I bring it up still. I mean, it's been 15 years and I still just go, "You remember that $500?"

Joe Rogan 8:01 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 8:01 Like, just to make that point. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 8:06 Tony V gave me a, a really interesting piece of advice one day, because he was telling me that he drove from Boston to New York. He, I think it was a r- he got a writing gig. I forget what the gig was, but he had to travel on a regular basis. He was still living in Boston.

Nate Bargatze 8:20 Hmm.

Joe Rogan 8:20 But he was doing the gig in New York. And I go, "That's like a three-and-a-half-hour drive." Like, "How often do you do that?" And it was regular, like multiple times a week. And I said, "How are you doing that?" He goes, "I just go zen." He goes, "I just say, 'This is what I'm doing now.' I don't get upset, I just say, 'This is what I'm doing, I'm driving.' And I just think about it that way."

Nate Bargatze 8:39 See-

Joe Rogan 8:39 And I remember thinking like, "Oh, yeah, you can do that," right? You can just say, "This is what I'm-" instead of going, "Fuck, I can't believe I'm driving three and a half hours. How much time is left? Two hours and 19 minutes, fuck!"

Nate Bargatze 8:50 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 8:51 Instead of thinking like that, you can just drive.

Nate Bargatze 8:54 Just drive.

Joe Rogan 8:55 Just do it.

Nate Bargatze 8:55 Yeah, it's a great way to... The, the zen idea of it.

Joe Rogan 8:58 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 8:58 (clears throat) I can do that with food. (smacks lips) I eat terrible. But, uh, sometimes if I, if I'm trying to eat better, it's like... And I- it's not a lot, but you try to think, like, "I'm gonna eat, uh, a decent meal tonight." I'ma have, like, a steak and green beans tonight or something, whatever. That's all I know that's, like, good. And like- (laughs)

Joe Rogan 9:16 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 9:16 And I don't know (laughs) like real f- I don't want to be weird. Say I'm having a salad, and I wrap my head around it very early in the day to go, "That's what I'm expecting." 'Cause I can go the other way.

Joe Rogan 9:27 Right.

Nate Bargatze 9:27 You know, if I think I'm gonna eat something bad, like, and that doesn't happen, like I'll, you know, I'll lose my mind. It's, uh... But it is, it's a very... Uh, I don't know if that's zen.

Joe Rogan 9:36 Yeah, it is. You just gotta decide this is what you're doing. I mean, that's how it is with everything. With exercise, with writing. Like, you just gotta decide, "I'm writing now. I'm getting up and I'm writing."

Nate Bargatze 9:45 Are you a word-for-word...

Joe Rogan 9:47 Not necessarily, but sometimes. Sometimes I write something and it works word-for-word. Most the time, I'm not though. Most the time what I do is I write essays. Like, I'll, I'll have a subject that I'm working on. So I'll have this long, long-form idea. Like, I'll, you know, whatever the subject. Coffee, whatever. Pick a subject, right? So as I'm writing, I just start writing all this shit about coffee. And then out of it, somewhere, something, I'll go, "Aha! I got something." And I'll extract that-

Nate Bargatze 10:14 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 10:14 ... and I'll put it on a separate piece of paper.

Nate Bargatze 10:16 Okay.

Joe Rogan 10:17 Or a separate, uh, file.

Nate Bargatze 10:18 Yes.

Joe Rogan 10:18 And I'll say this is, you know... Th- there's something in there.

Nate Bargatze 10:20 There's something there.

Joe Rogan 10:21 Yeah, and then sometimes there is and sometimes there's not. And I have fucking I don't know how many these files that never went anywhere.

Nate Bargatze 10:29 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 10:30 I'll go back to them and look. I just check, like panning for gold again. "What do you got in here? Anything? Nothing?"

Nate Bargatze 10:34 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 10:34 "Nothing? Fuck."

Nate Bargatze 10:35 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 10:35 And then I'll just... E- every now and then. But sometimes bits just come to you on stage too.

Nate Bargatze 10:41 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 10:41 And you gotta be open to that. Like, sometimes you'll be at dinner and someone'll say something. You'll have some fucking hilarious retort to that, and you're like, "Holy shit, that could be a bit." You know? Like, my friends do that all the time. Like, they'll say something hilarious and I'm like, "Dude, you gotta write that down."

Nate Bargatze 10:54 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 10:54 "That, there's something in that."

Nate Bargatze 10:55 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 10:55 Like, you never know. You never know.

Nate Bargatze 10:57 You never know.

Joe Rogan 10:57 And then that can become a bit.

Nate Bargatze 10:59 It's, uh... I had... My, on my last special I have a joke, uh, where I was... I went golfing and a guy saw me with no shirt on. And, uh, he, he, he just said, "Olivia." He thought I was his... He was looking for his, uh, elderly wife and saw me with no shirt on.

Joe Rogan 11:14 (laughs) (claps hands)

Nate Bargatze 11:15 And, (laughs) and from a distance he thought-

Joe Rogan 11:17 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 11:17 ... he thought we had the same build.

Joe Rogan 11:18 Oh, my gosh.

Nate Bargatze 11:18 And he's like, "Oh." He's like, "Olivia?" So that happened and I opened... That d- but I always think that that's crazy. That was a month before I taped that special and that's what I opened the special with. Where you have to be open to the idea that you're like, "I don't know..." You know?

Joe Rogan 11:31 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 11:31 When it happened, I knew. I was like, "Well, this is the greatest thing that's ever happened to me." You know?

Joe Rogan 11:37 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 11:37 Like, it was... I, like, I was, I was... I called a couple people on the drive to be like, "This is funny, right?" You know? Like to make sure you're not, like-

Joe Rogan 11:45 Right, right, right.

Nate Bargatze 11:45 ... a crazy person. And then I went and I was going to, like, Tampa, uh, The Improv in Tampa. And I, like, drove there and I'd, I opened with it that night. And I was like, "This is a new opener on the special."

Joe Rogan 11:56 Yeah, you never know, right?

Nate Bargatze 11:57 You never know.

Joe Rogan 11:58 That's the beautiful thing about creating, about comedy. It just comes out of the air. Just comes outta your mind. It's just like...

Nate Bargatze 12:04 And you feel... Do you get nervous when you... I mean, after a special though, there's definitely moments, uh-... I f- like, right now, when you're trying to write new stuff and you're like, "Dude, I might be one of the worst comedians that have ever lived."

Joe Rogan 12:15 (laughs) I guess.

Nate Bargatze 12:15 I think that all the time. I go... (laughs)

Joe Rogan 12:17 Well, that's... I, I think it's one of the great things about comedy, that it keeps you humble because you're always a beginner every two years in.

Nate Bargatze 12:23 Yes, yes. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 12:24 'Cause you, you do a special and then you're a beginner again 'cause you have all this stuff you have to work out. And it's really hard, like, during the pandemic. There's only been a few guys that I know that have... Like, Bert Kreischer has s- been the most gangster about it. He's toured regularly from the jump. He started doing those drive-in movie shows.

Nate Bargatze 12:41 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 12:41 So, like, he kind of... I'm p- I'm pretty sure it was Bert's idea to do these drive-in shows.

Nate Bargatze 12:47 (laughs) Yeah.

Joe Rogan 12:47 I think he started it.

Nate Bargatze 12:48 I did it. I did 'em too. I did, like, 20 of 'em. And yeah, he was... I mean, he would kill 'em.

Joe Rogan 12:54 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 12:54 Like, I mean, he's kind of built for that, like-

Joe Rogan 12:55 Oh, yeah.

Nate Bargatze 12:56 ... in a way.

Joe Rogan 12:56 He's big.

Nate Bargatze 12:56 Like, he was, like, perfect.

Joe Rogan 12:57 It's... He's a big act, like he turns-

Nate Bargatze 12:59 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 12:59 ... like big energy, big performing.

Nate Bargatze 13:00 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 13:00 Takes his shirt off, everybody honks their horn, you know?

Nate Bargatze 13:03 Oh, dude.

Joe Rogan 13:04 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 13:04 I had someone... We'd go to Butler, PA at a, a... It's pretty rough when you see a Ford, uh, F-150's lights hit you in the face 'cause they leave early. (laughs) Like, that's the hard part, like-

Joe Rogan 13:13 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 13:13 ... when you're on stage, dude, and this, this truck-

Joe Rogan 13:16 Oh.

Nate Bargatze 13:16 ... these lights just hit you and y- And I couldn't figure how to get out.

Joe Rogan 13:19 Oh, no.

Nate Bargatze 13:19 So he's just driving o- And you're like, "Just leave, man."

Joe Rogan 13:22 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 13:22 You're like, "Just someo-..." You're like, "Please someone help him get out." Like, it's so rough.

Joe Rogan 13:26 That's hilarious. That's, that's the most inconspicuous or non-inconspicuous-

Nate Bargatze 13:30 Yeah, dude.

Joe Rogan 13:30 ... leaving ever-

Nate Bargatze 13:31 Even-

Joe Rogan 13:31 ... in a fucking truck. (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 13:33 He's a truck... (imitates engine revving) He's gonna start that car and, like, let it warm up. He's like, "We're going soon."

Joe Rogan 13:38 That's hilarious.

Nate Bargatze 13:38 And you're like, "Oh, God."

Joe Rogan 13:40 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 13:40 It was, uh... Those were tough. That's what I d- had to do, uh, th- and they... But you know what? If you went into it with the right attitude 'cause I know some comics were like, "These are the worst." And th- they are. Th- it's not ideal, but if you went into it... I go, "These people are coming out, they haven't been able to do anything." It's not... Uh, what does it matter if my feelings are not... Like, I don't feel like I'm getting laughs.

Joe Rogan 14:01 Right.

Nate Bargatze 14:01 That's not what it's about. And it's about making these people be happy.

Joe Rogan 14:06 (clears throat)

Nate Bargatze 14:06 And they did... In Chicago, we did Chicago fiv-... It was 500 cars. When I walked out, fl- a- people flashing lights, honking their horns. They honked for laughs-

Joe Rogan 14:14 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 14:14 ... 'cause it, 'cause it was, like, 45 degrees raining-

Joe Rogan 14:17 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 14:17 ... so th- they're all in their windows up and they would, like, kind of just do the little beeps.

Joe Rogan 14:20 That's so weird.

Nate Bargatze 14:22 But you learn that, you know, I just need a response. That's kinda... Like, you just... And once you... Like, the zen idea of it, you just... When you go into it with a better attitude, I'm not mad the whole time I'm up there. I'm, like-

Joe Rogan 14:33 Did you hear laughs at all?

Nate Bargatze 14:35 N- Uh, there'd be a couple of people sitting up front, but not really.

Joe Rogan 14:38 Wow.

Nate Bargatze 14:39 And so you'd hear the... You'd hear just some, like, honking and laughing.

Joe Rogan 14:42 Did it, did it fuck with your timing at all?

Nate Bargatze 14:43 Uh, yeah. I mean, yeah. Yeah. I did 24 minutes of, uh, 60-minute material. No, but, like-

Joe Rogan 14:49 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 14:49 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 14:49 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 14:49 I got off, I go, "Uh, that was long right there." Yeah, and we barely started. I was like, "Oh, God." Uh...

Joe Rogan 14:54 So did you really do 24 minutes?

Nate Bargatze 14:55 No. My special I did, though, the one... Uh, it was... I did... I had, I had it timed out to 64 minutes. I... You did have to figure out how to be like, "Just trust that they're laughing."

Joe Rogan 15:05 Right.

Nate Bargatze 15:06 You know what I mean? And then so when we did the special they had everybody... We had to do Universal Studios in, uh, California. 100 people, all of 'em had to get tested, but then also still had to wear masks during the show. And, uh, the first nigh- fir- you tape two shows. First show, uh, 64 minute is what my material was running at the drive-ins. First show I did 43 minutes.

Joe Rogan 15:26 Wow. Wow. How come?

Nate Bargatze 15:27 'Cause it was... I, I realized you could hear some laughs, not really much, and you can't see their faces.

Joe Rogan 15:34 (clears throat)

Nate Bargatze 15:35 So you just look like you're bu-... I mean, you're, you're just looking at eyes. And so unless a guy, like, shook 'cause he was laughing so hard... I mean, you're just telling a joke just to, like, eyes not moving.

Joe Rogan 15:46 That's so weird.

Nate Bargatze 15:47 And it was tough. And so the second one, I was like, "All right. Well, we have to..." You know, I got off. You know when you get off and you're like, "That's not... That was cool."

Joe Rogan 15:55 And the second one, did you make 'em take their masks off?

Nate Bargatze 15:57 No. But, uh, we had, uh-

Joe Rogan 15:59 This is Universal in Hollywood?

Nate Bargatze 16:00 Yeah. Universal Studios, yeah. And they, uh... So we had... Uh, they had mi-... The crowd, the audience had mics on their tables. And so he put that, the... And my monitor up a little louder and so I could hear them laugh through the mask.

Joe Rogan 16:14 Oh.

Nate Bargatze 16:14 'Cause they're laughing, but it's like I just can't hear.

Joe Rogan 16:17 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 16:17 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 16:18 Yeah, it's so frustrating when you're talking to people, like, a- and they're trying to give you directions or explain something, you'll... And you're-

Nate Bargatze 16:25 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 16:25 ... j- leaning in, like, "What?"

Nate Bargatze 16:26 I just pull it down. I go, "What's that?"

Joe Rogan 16:27 "What the fuck are you saying?"

Nate Bargatze 16:28 They go... (laughs)

Joe Rogan 16:29 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 16:29 You come around the plastic... You know like you go somewhere they have the plastic thing? I just... You go around it and pull your mask down, "What's that?" They're like, "Well, that's not what you're supposed to do at all."

Joe Rogan 16:37 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 16:37 Like, you just make it way worse

Narrator 16:39 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 16:39 ... you know what I'm saying?

Joe Rogan 16:40 Well, people that have already had COVID, they're so fucking... They're just... They, they don't care at all, like-

Nate Bargatze 16:45 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 16:46 ... the- they're just free people.

Nate Bargatze 16:47 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 16:47 They're like people that have gotten out of jail and can never go back.

Nate Bargatze 16:49 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 16:50 Just robbing cars.

Nate Bargatze 16:51 (laughs) Yeah, doesn't matter.

Joe Rogan 16:53 'Cause they... That's how they behave. That's how Jamie is. All these... They, they're-

Nate Bargatze 16:56 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 16:56 ... they're flagrant. They go out to clubs, they, th- uh, you know. Hinchcliffe's the same way. Yeah, they get this, uh, this attitude about it, like, "I'm free."

Nate Bargatze 17:04 Yeah. Well, it's a lot of... A lot of people have a lot of power right now. I was, like, talking a little bit about it in, uh, my new act, not to do my act, but it was like... But the idea that, like, everybody gets to tell someone-

Joe Rogan 17:15 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 17:16 ... to pull your mask up. I can go tell anybody I want. So, like, everybody has power.

Joe Rogan 17:20 Yes.

Nate Bargatze 17:21 Just a guy on the street can go, "Your mask is a little down."

Joe Rogan 17:24 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 17:25 And you're like, "That guy's got power over you."

Joe Rogan 17:26 Cover your nose.

Nate Bargatze 17:27 Cover your no-... And you're like, "I don't even know that," you know?

Joe Rogan 17:29 Yeah, you have to kind of respond and listen to him or you're a dick.

Nate Bargatze 17:33 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 17:34 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 17:34 It's a lot of power.

Joe Rogan 17:35 I saw some guy was fucking with people. He made a mask that looked like he wasn't wearing a mask. It looked-

Nate Bargatze 17:42 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 17:42 ... like the mask is under his chin. So the mask is, like, a mask of his face and then this part looks like one of them operating masks, but it's under the chin.

Nate Bargatze 17:51 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 17:51 And some lady was yelling at him at a store.He said, "I'm wearing a mask." She goes, "No, you're not wearing it the right way." And like, she was looking right at him, and just kinda like not tr- trying not to make eye contact, so not clearly recognizing that it's a fake. It's good.

Nate Bargatze 18:06 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 18:06 It was good.

Nate Bargatze 18:06 It's good.

Joe Rogan 18:06 It was like a photograph.

Nate Bargatze 18:07 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 18:07 You know? But it was, uh, it was funny to watch the anger that people have.

Nate Bargatze 18:12 But yeah, people get real upset about it. I mean, I, you know, I was, say, like, if you've been to a place where it's been uncomfortable to have the mask on. Like, if you've gone that ... Like, if you go farther out of, like, a city, and I've walked in with a mask on, and you walk in, you're like, "Oh, sorry about that, everybody."

Joe Rogan 18:27 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 18:27 Like, you just feel ... Like, they're like, "What's COVID, dude?"

Joe Rogan 18:30 Well-

Nate Bargatze 18:30 Like, "Why do you have a mask on?"

Joe Rogan 18:31 Andrew Schulz is in Miami right now.

Nate Bargatze 18:33 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 18:33 And that's what he said. He said it's like that there. He said, "It is fucking bananas." He goes, "They don't give a shit." And he goes, "No one's wearing a mask," 'cause they're just, they're going to nightclubs. He goes people are just out there wandering around. Florida has no rules.

Nate Bargatze 18:46 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 18:46 They're just wide open.

Nate Bargatze 18:47 (laughs) Yeah.

Joe Rogan 18:48 And Texas is on the verge of that. They've kind of announced no rules, but they're, they're fighting it here in Austin, but the cases are down in Austin, so they're lowering ... Like, we were talking to the nurse out there.

Nate Bargatze 18:58 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 18:58 They're, they're lowering the, whatever the stage it is that you're allowed to do things.

Nate Bargatze 19:02 Well, they ... The, yeah, every, like, everything's going down, like, the ... But I went to ... I just did standup live in Phoenix, and it was half capacity. But, so they said they could open to 100%, but then they still have to be six feet apart, so you can't. You know, so it's like little stuff like that where they're like, "Well, they can't open ..." You know. You can't tell them, 'cause comedy clubs pack 'em in, you know?

Joe Rogan 19:23 I thought they just went full open recently.

Nate Bargatze 19:26 They s- they did.

Joe Rogan 19:27 Still?

Nate Bargatze 19:27 But they ... But you have to be six feet apart.

Joe Rogan 19:30 Oh, really?

Nate Bargatze 19:30 Yeah, you still have to be socially distant.

Joe Rogan 19:32 Oh.

Nate Bargatze 19:32 So you can't go ... It's kind of impossible to go full ... You know, 'cause if you're in a building, and they're like, you know, they're like, "We can have full capacity in here," and you're like, "Well, I can only fit ..." And they're like, "Well, everybody still needs to be six feet apart." You're like, "Well, then, I guess we're not."

Joe Rogan 19:44 Were they really six feet apart at standup live, though?

Nate Bargatze 19:46 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 19:46 'Cause Calen told me-

Nate Bargatze 19:47 They ...

Joe Rogan 19:47 ... it was packed.

Nate Bargatze 19:49 It was packed, but every ... I always think these clubs look ... They, of course, look packed.

Joe Rogan 19:53 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 19:53 But when you go walk around, those tables ... We, we forget how packed comedy clubs got it. They got it really packed.

Joe Rogan 20:00 Right.

Nate Bargatze 20:00 And so now, people are sitting just kind of how they're supposed to sit.

Joe Rogan 20:04 In real life.

Nate Bargatze 20:04 A little in real life.

Joe Rogan 20:05 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 20:05 Like if you go to a restaurant. It's just-

Joe Rogan 20:08 You're-

Nate Bargatze 20:08 You know, you're not just on, you're not on a stranger's back.

Joe Rogan 20:10 Right.

Nate Bargatze 20:10 And you're just, uh-

Joe Rogan 20:11 You're not supposed to be looking at someone's text right over your shoulder.

Nate Bargatze 20:13 No, just every ... They have the, they have the plexiglass, uh, too, on the tables.

Joe Rogan 20:20 Yeah, I saw this about Fauci. It said, "US considering updating three-foot social distancing guidelines in key move to reopen schools." Yeah, they're, they're, they're saying there's no difference between six foot and three foot. Like, sh- p- f- stop.

Nate Bargatze 20:32 I don't understand it. I always th- I try to, you, try to figure all this stuff out. Like, I think there's a ... I always think we have a graph problem in this country.

Joe Rogan 20:39 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 20:39 Like, there's too many graphs.

Joe Rogan 20:40 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 20:40 And I don't understand. Like, they just keep throwing more out there. And they always say per capita, and you're like, "I don't ... Like, I don't even know what ... What's per capita of what?"

Joe Rogan 20:48 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 20:48 Like, I have no idea. They're like, "Per capita of Florida." You're like, "I don't know. That could be good or bad. I don't know-"

Joe Rogan 20:52 You don't know what that means?

Nate Bargatze 20:54 That means the population.

Joe Rogan 20:56 Well, it means per, like, it's per h- like, the, uh, whatever the number would be, whether it's per thousand or per million people. So, like, if you have a place like California that has 40 million people in a state, versus a place like Wyoming that has less than a million-

Nate Bargatze 21:10 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 21:10 ... you would say how many COVID cases they have per capita, like per 100 people. Like, so Wyoming, if they're, they're, they're basing it on whatever the number is, so if they're basing it on 100 people-

Nate Bargatze 21:22 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 21:22 ... they'd say Wyoming has, you know, X amount per capita, versus California has, you know, whatever the number is.

Nate Bargatze 21:29 Why would they not just use the real numbers of the-

Joe Rogan 21:31 Because they want you to think differently.

Nate Bargatze 21:33 Oh, okay.

Joe Rogan 21:33 'Cause like, if California has two million cases-

Nate Bargatze 21:36 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 21:37 ... there's 40 million people. Wyoming only has a m- less than a million people in the entire state, so if Wyoming has 1,000 cases, like, "Oh, my God. Wyoming's a huge success story." Not necessarily. Like-

Nate Bargatze 21:47 Oh, 'cause they got less. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 21:48 Per capita.

Nate Bargatze 21:49 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 21:49 Based on the amount of people that are there, like-

Nate Bargatze 21:52 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 21:52 ... there's one out of every, you know, 10 people has COVID, or one out of every 100 people has COVID, versus California, whatever the number is.

Nate Bargatze 21:59 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 21:59 That's what per capita means. That's why they do it.

Nate Bargatze 22:00 All right. It seems like a lot, to be honest.

Joe Rogan 22:02 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 22:02 But I barely made it out of high school, Joe, so I don't know what's going on, dude.

Joe Rogan 22:05 Listen, I barely made it out of high school too.

Nate Bargatze 22:07 Yeah, yeah (laughs) .

Joe Rogan 22:07 I used to have nightmares about, uh, being forced to go back.

Nate Bargatze 22:11 Out of high school?

Joe Rogan 22:11 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I used to have nightmares about like, I didn't get my, my requirements. Like, I didn't care, um, I, I, I wa- I didn't necessarily care what my grades were. I just wanted to get out. But what I did care is I didn't wanna be a high school dropout.

Nate Bargatze 22:26 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 22:26 Like, a high school dropout, to me, (clears throat) at the time, was like a death sentence. Like, for sure you're gonna be a loser.

Nate Bargatze 22:33 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 22:33 Which was my number one fear.

Nate Bargatze 22:34 Yeah (laughs) .

Joe Rogan 22:34 Like, was, that I was gonna be a loser. I was so scared-

Nate Bargatze 22:37 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 22:37 ... of being a loser. I went to college just because I didn't want people to think I was a loser.

Nate Bargatze 22:41 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 22:42 'Cause I went, like, a whole year without doing any college at all. Like, I went, like, from, you know, uh, graduating to, you know, when I was ... I guess I graduated at 17 till whatever the fuck, you know, next year. And I answered so many questions. Like, "Oh, I'm taking a year off." And people look at you like, "Oh, man."

Nate Bargatze 23:00 Here we go.

Joe Rogan 23:00 "I'm a fucking loser."

Nate Bargatze 23:01 Yeah. Yeah, here we go.

Joe Rogan 23:02 You're gonna be... I'm like, "Shit, I'm gonna be a loser."

Nate Bargatze 23:03 It was before people traveled abroad to ... You know, like, "I'm taking a year off."

Joe Rogan 23:07 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 23:07 No one said that.

Joe Rogan 23:07 Well, dude, I lived in Boston. They didn't even travel to other cities.

Nate Bargatze 23:10 Yeah (laughs) .

Joe Rogan 23:11 Like, they didn't go anywhere. And y- you ... And it was like such a blue-coll ... I was in, uh, I lived in a place called Newton Upper Falls, which is like this blue-collar, you know. It was a nice area.

Nate Bargatze 23:22 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 23:22 Real quiet. Like, I go back to it now. It's like, "Wow, I grew up in a cool place." But it was, uh, very hardworking people. You know, which is w- cold weather people are hardworking people.

Nate Bargatze 23:33 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 23:33 They, they value hard work because you have to shovel yourself out of your fucking driveway, period. You know, you have to go to work when it's cold, period. You know, you wanna keep food on the table? You gotta get firewood, period. You gotta do something to keep the house warm, period.

Nate Bargatze 23:46 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 23:46 You know, you have to work.

Nate Bargatze 23:47 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 23:47 You can't just fuck off.

Nate Bargatze 23:48 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 23:49 And there's places where y- like California, you can just kinda chill. You can't chill in Boston. You'll freeze to death.

Nate Bargatze 23:56 Yeah, and then y- air condition and heat goes out in California. You're like, "We're fine."

Joe Rogan 23:59 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 23:59 Like, in LA, it's like the greatest ... Every day is the greatest day ever.

Joe Rogan 24:02 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 24:03 I mean, it feels amazing.

Narrator 24:04 When I... I remember when I first came there in, like, 1993. I came... I was doing something with, uh, MTV, and me and my friend, Gary Valentine, we, uh, went out there. And he was staying with me and we were wandering around. We'd go like, "Dude, this is paradise. This is like another day in paradise." Like, every day was like... The sun was shining.

Nate Bargatze 24:21 (laughs) Yeah.

Narrator 24:21 And it was beautiful.

Nate Bargatze 24:23 Is that who... Who did you...

Narrator 24:24 (clears throat)

Nate Bargatze 24:24 Who was your guys that you started with? Like Valentine?

Narrator 24:27 (coughs) Val- Valentine, I knew, um, 'cause I was good friends with Kevin James. That's Kevin's brother.

Nate Bargatze 24:31 Yeah.

Narrator 24:31 And, uh, you know, i- in th- those da... Like, I had left Boston right when Burr was coming up. So Burr was coming up right when I was leaving. And, you know, and then I went to New York right after that. So the guys that were with me, like I met Chappelle when he was like... Dave... I think Dave was like 18 or 19.

Nate Bargatze 24:51 Wow. Yeah.

Narrator 24:52 And, um, you know, Norton. I knew Norton back then. I knew Neal Brennan when he was a doorman. He was a doorman-

Nate Bargatze 24:59 At Boston.

Narrator 25:00 ... at Boston Comedy.

Nate Bargatze 25:00 Yeah.

Narrator 25:01 So-

Nate Bargatze 25:01 Maron, was he-

Narrator 25:03 Yeah, Maron-

Nate Bargatze 25:03 Yeah.

Narrator 25:03 ... was one of the guys that gave me, like, a, a really nice compliment when I was an open mic-er. When I was a raw open mic-er, just hadn't been doing it very long at all.

Nate Bargatze 25:11 Yeah.

Narrator 25:12 And he said something nice to me and I remember like, (gasps) 'cause he was a professional. I was like, "Oh."

Nate Bargatze 25:17 What everybody's mi-... When you first go, I went to... So when I moved to New York, I went to Boston Comedy Club. And I barked and handed out flyers-

Narrator 25:25 Oh, did you do that?

Nate Bargatze 25:26 ... with... I did exactly what... I did it with Pete Holmes, his show.

Narrator 25:29 Oh.

Nate Bargatze 25:29 I did exactly that show. So, uh, with Pete, he got me... I moved like five months after Pete did and he was like, "I'm barking at this club." And so I was like, "All right, I'll go do that." And I remember just standing on the corner. It, it taught me to learn to, like when I have goals in comedy, it was like learn just to have little goals. Like I never set big goals. I always set just a goal that I can get and then... So I was like, "I don't wanna be on this corner." So I was like, "How do I get off this corner?"

Narrator 25:53 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 25:53 And then, it was like, you just wanna go stand in the door. Like I just (laughs) ... I would like, at that moment, dream of just being able to take people's tickets at the door.

Narrator 26:02 Right.

Nate Bargatze 26:03 And so you're like... And you're just, you know, handing these flyers out. People are just dropping 'em in front of your face, like no one cares, dude. Like just throwing 'em.

Narrator 26:09 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 26:10 It's like 25 degrees out and you're like, "Eh." (laughs) And, uh, uh, and so... But I was at Boston, so Chappelle used to always come by. This is 2004 or '05. So Chappelle would always come by and do spots. He'd go up in front of six, seven people. No one was there. And then we'd go outside and just say, "Hey, Chappelle's on stage."

Narrator 26:29 This was when Chappelle's Show has already been off the air?

Nate Bargatze 26:32 No. It's, it's right before he ended it.

Narrator 26:36 Oh.

Nate Bargatze 26:37 Right before he ended it.

Narrator 26:38 So it was on. It was on.

Nate Bargatze 26:39 It was on.

Narrator 26:39 Wow.

Nate Bargatze 26:39 He would come... I remember him coming and having, like, white makeup on his neck, like if he played, like, a white person on the Chappelle's Show.

Narrator 26:45 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 26:46 And he would still have it on, you know-

Narrator 26:47 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 26:47 ... 'cause he'd come from there to, uh-

Narrator 26:51 Straight to the club.

Nate Bargatze 26:52 ... straight to the club. And so we'd go up at Boston and we would... And everybody would go on stage and... I remember, I'll never forget these one people, they walked by and I said, "Hey, Dave Chappelle's on stage, if y'all can go watch for free." You know? And Boston Comedy Club, I remember, had those steps and there was a window. And they go, "I don't believe you." I was like, "Well, I'm at a comedy club." So I was like, "He's in there, just go look in the window. If he's not there, then don't go in." And they were like, "No."

Narrator 27:17 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 27:17 And they left. (laughs) They like went... I think about those people every day.

Narrator 27:21 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 27:21 They just... They could've watched Chappelle for free.

Narrator 27:22 Those people and that 500 bucks.

Nate Bargatze 27:24 Those 500 bucks.

Narrator 27:25 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 27:25 My... We bring... I bring them to my wife every day. And those people, too. (laughs)

Narrator 27:29 I did, uh, Dave's show when he was in New York, uh, when we did this, this Fear Factor episode. And the one...

Nate Bargatze 27:35 Yeah, yeah, I remember that.

Narrator 27:35 ... Tyrone Biggums was on Fear Factor.

Nate Bargatze 27:37 Mm-hmm.

Narrator 27:37 And, uh, it was in a warehouse, in, in the middle of the winter, freezing fucking cold, no heat in the warehouse. So we had these little blast furnace... You know those things that they do on sets?

Nate Bargatze 27:47 Yeah.

Narrator 27:47 Where it's like the (imitates blast furnaces roaring)

Nate Bargatze 27:49 Yeah. Yeah.

Narrator 27:49 Those things that are blowing hot air out. And, you know, you just stand in front of that until it was time to do the scene. And then you'd go out there and do the scene, and everybody would run back and stand in front of the blast furnaces. But he was in character the whole day-

Nate Bargatze 28:02 Wow.

Narrator 28:02 ... as Tyrone Biggums.

Nate Bargatze 28:06 Yeah. (laughs)

Narrator 28:06 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 28:06 Like, he... He was having so much fun.

Narrator 28:08 Yeah. He was... I mean, watching him, he would come by, you know, and he would go up for a while. He hosted one ni-... When, uh, I think it's when Boston switched to C- the Comedy Village, like he was, like, ru-... My buddy, Dustin Chafe is the one that got us. He was running the Boston at the time, and then it switched to Comedy Village, Af- or whoever sold it. But then Chappelle came by one night and hosted for everybody, like all the, even the open mic guys that were going up, 'cause he would come up and just do whatever... obviously, whatever he wanted. And, uh, it was... And getting to see that... Bill Burr was a big deal for me. Uh, Patrice O'Neal. I used to sit in Patrice's car 'cause he would park it out front. Of the Boston, you couldn't park there. And he'd go on stage and I would sit in his car. And so if a cop came, I would just drive his car around and wait till he got done.

Nate Bargatze 28:54 Wow.

Narrator 28:55 I went to their... I saw... Burr and Patrice were v-... A- everybody's a big deal, but they were, they were big for me 'cause when I went to New York... You know, at that time, 2005, something like that, their... You know, Burr's just a comic that people know him in New York, but he's not, he's not doing... He's not what he is now, obviously. And, uh, so they would come by and they, they would run their HBO one night stands for these 30 minutes specials. And I remember, I timed Patrice's one night. He didn't ask me, by the way. Just like a young comic being like, "I'll time it for you." (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 29:26 (laughs)

Narrator 29:26 And I... He gets off and... Like this is... I have no concept of being on TV. I think, like, he has to do 30 to the dot.

Nate Bargatze 29:33 Right.

Narrator 29:33 And I tell him afterwards, I was like, "You... that was like 34 minutes." And he just, like, looked at me and walked away, like he was just like... (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 29:41 (laughs)

Narrator 29:41 There's, there is no reason for me... I mean, I was so embarrassed about doing that.

Nate Bargatze 29:46 Woo!

Narrator 29:46 And now I know, but it was like at the time, I was just trying to be a, you know, a good comic, and like- Did you see his, uh, the Comedy Central documentary they did about him?

Nate Bargatze 29:56 I haven't watched it yet. I haven't got to watch it yet.

Narrator 29:57 I haven't either. I haven't either. But, uh, I will make, make myself, for sure. But I've seen so many of his sets. He was the guy-

Nate Bargatze 30:05 He was the best.

Narrator 30:06 He was a... He was, for sure, one of the greats. For sure.

Joe Rogan 30:09 But he was, but m- uh, maybe even more importantly, he was a cornerstone of not giving a fuck.

Nate Bargatze 30:15 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 30:15 You know what I mean? Like, you had to have a guy like that, that was an elite standup comic. It was like-

Nate Bargatze 30:20 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 30:20 ... "Wha, wha, wha, wha, wha, wha, wha, wha, what the fuck are you talking about?"

Nate Bargatze 30:23 (laughs) Yeah.

Joe Rogan 30:23 And you, you needed a guy like that-

Nate Bargatze 30:25 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 30:25 ... to have a great point, like really well-thought-out point that was hilarious that showed you why you shouldn't care. Or why something was stupid.

Nate Bargatze 30:33 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 30:34 Like, I remember, um, there was, uh, some controversy about, uh, Opie and Anthony, and he went on some show. And some, one woman was saying that certain jokes could never be funny. And, you know, and he, and, and he went and said, like, a joke that was on that subject that was funny.

Nate Bargatze 30:52 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 30:53 And, uh, and then, and he was like, "Look, it all..." And the... But this is a point that he had that's like a really good point that I stick with to this day is like, it all comes from the same place, whether the joke is funny or the joke is not, whether it's offensive or whether it's hilarious and non-offensive. It's coming from the same place. You're just trying to be funny.

Nate Bargatze 31:14 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 31:14 And when you're a comic, you understand that. Because like, you'll, you'll say something that some people might find offensive, but the only reason why you're saying it is not because you're trying to be mean. You're saying it 'cause you think there's something funny in there. Like you're trying to find the funny. And sometimes like you'll slip and it doesn't, doesn't work at all.

Nate Bargatze 31:32 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 31:32 And sometimes-

Nate Bargatze 31:32 Agree- agreeable is not funny.

Joe Rogan 31:34 Right. Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 31:35 Yeah. And-

Joe Rogan 31:35 Like the whole point of it is that I can't agree with you, except-

Nate Bargatze 31:37 Exactly. ... comedy's all built from... Sometimes if someone, like, they'd be like, "Oh, you're being mean to him." You're like, "Well, I don't..." That's what... Comedy's mean.

Joe Rogan 31:44 (laughs) Sometimes, yeah.

Nate Bargatze 31:45 It's mean. I, I, I told a j- a joke where I said I, uh, did something to my dad, but I came out and I did a show. These people didn't expect a comedy. So they didn't know I was a comedian and I started telling my act. They don't know what I'm doing, so it just sounds like I'm doing a mean speech.

Joe Rogan 32:00 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 32:00 'Cause that's what comedy is if you have no, if there's no context to it.

Joe Rogan 32:03 Right. (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 32:03 You'd be like, "This guy's the worst." (laughs) And they're like-

Joe Rogan 32:06 Right.

Nate Bargatze 32:06 ... and you're like, "Oh." But if I, if I just told them-

Joe Rogan 32:08 Right.

Nate Bargatze 32:09 ... I was the comedian, they would be like, "Oh, okay." They'd get it. I still live to this day by some Patrice set. It was... So I was, uh, I just kinda started with, uh, Big Jay, uh, Kurt Metzger. Kurt Metzger, by the way, one of the... And Kurt and Big, Big Jay were two, one of the comics I ever saw that I just was like really, where I was like you move to New York and you're like, "Oh man, this is like the real, like these guys are like really good." You know?

Joe Rogan 32:34 Have you been paying attention to what Metzger's doing with, uh, Kyle Dunnigan?

Nate Bargatze 32:37 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 32:38 Fuck.

Nate Bargatze 32:39 Yeah. Metzger's one of the, I mean, one of the funniest guys I've ever-

Joe Rogan 32:41 Brilliant.

Nate Bargatze 32:42 I, I, I-

Joe Rogan 32:42 Just super smart.

Nate Bargatze 32:43 ... remember watching him, uh, at the very beginning. I would, I would... He, he would take me on the road, we'd do like these old weird gigs. And so he would just call me his opener. And I'm like friends with Kurt at this point.

Joe Rogan 32:54 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 32:54 I drove him to the gig. And we'd be in the elevator and he's just on the phone, he's like, "What's that? No, I'm sitting here with my opener." I'm like, "Kurt-"

Joe Rogan 33:01 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 33:01 ... "... just say, 'My buddy.'"

Joe Rogan 33:04 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 33:04 Like, you know, like we're... It's not like I'm opening for like, you know, Seinfeld or something.

Joe Rogan 33:10 Right, right.

Nate Bargatze 33:10 Like it's like you're getting paid, uh, $800 for this weekend.

Joe Rogan 33:14 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 33:15 Like (laughs) -

Joe Rogan 33:15 Right.

Nate Bargatze 33:15 ... he just would call me that to my face. And I got him in that room, though, uh, 'cause he, he, we were, we shared a hotel room. That's where like the gig we're doing. And he goes to put, uh, we go in the bathroom and he's like, "Is this lotion?" And I would always just like mess with him or if he asked a dumb question, he goes, "Is, is, I need lotion. This says conditioner." And I go, "That's it, it's conditioner for your skin." And I'd just tell him that. And then I'd walk in there and he's just rubbing-

Joe Rogan 33:38 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 33:39 ... conditioner all over his body. (laughs) And then we had to go do radio. And we had... I mean, dude, he was, he was, he's, uh... That's why he called me Opener.

Joe Rogan 33:47 He's a brilliant guy, but he's an odd duck.

Nate Bargatze 33:50 Right.

Joe Rogan 33:50 The moment I met him, the first time I met him, I met him in Montreal. Uh, Ari introduced me to him. And he goes, "Hey, what's up?" And then he goes, "Hey, what are you doing for your hair? Your hair's falling out. You doing anything for it?"

Nate Bargatze 33:59 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 33:59 I was like, "Whoa." (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 34:01 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 34:01 I go, "Yeah, I'm Minoxidil, all kinds of shit."

Nate Bargatze 34:04 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 34:04 He's like, "Yeah, me too."

Nate Bargatze 34:05 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 34:05 And there was like, (laughs) it was just like literally the first words out of his mouth.

Nate Bargatze 34:09 Yeah. (laughs) Yeah, like, "All right, man."

Joe Rogan 34:10 He's just, uh, he's got an interesting way of looking at things. But he's also got a, a, a brilliant perspective because he grew up in a cult.

Nate Bargatze 34:17 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 34:18 You know? And because he grew up in a cult, like he sees a lot of those same patterns in like woke thinking. And he's like, like where you can't question certain ideologies. And he gets really angry 'cause, "No, no, no, no. I know what the fuck this is."

Nate Bargatze 34:31 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 34:31 Because I grew up with this shit."

Nate Bargatze 34:32 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 34:33 What was he, a Jehovah's Witness?

Nate Bargatze 34:34 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 34:34 That was it, what? Right?

Nate Bargatze 34:35 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 34:36 And, you know, his stories about growing up as a Jehovah's Witness were fucking crazy.

Nate Bargatze 34:40 I mean, can you imagine that coming to your door?

Joe Rogan 34:42 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 34:42 Like just, (laughs) just like, "Hey, what do you do with your hair?" That's the first thing he says.

Joe Rogan 34:46 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 34:46 You're like, "Oh, what are you..." (laughs)

Joe Rogan 34:48 Well, he's just, I don't know, I'm, I- I- I'm so happy he's around though. He's-

Nate Bargatze 34:52 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 34:52 He'd make me so happy at the Comedy Store whenever I'd talk to him.

Nate Bargatze 34:55 He's, uh, uh, unbelievable.

Joe Rogan 34:57 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 34:57 And when I watched him at the very beginning. Uh, the Patrice thing, the... So Jay was... We used to go to Patrice's house for, uh, uh, like 4th of July or something, he always had a party at his house. And so I would, got invited and Jay, uh, and then someone, I got into it with someone else, one of Patrice's friends basically. And he was like, and he told Jay, "Hey, Patrice doesn't want Nate to come to the party." And, uh, then Jay calls Patrice and is like, uh... Well, the context of this too is like, so Patrice would always ask me, I grew up in the South, like I grew up, you know, Christian in the South, typical Southern upbringing, going to church, all that stuff. So Patrice knew that and he would ask me like, "Do you believe in dinosaurs and stuff?" And I would just go with what, I would say no.

Joe Rogan 35:37 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 35:38 I believe in them, but like it was, you know, I was like, "I don't want to just say no." Like I'm not gonna-

Joe Rogan 35:41 Right.

Nate Bargatze 35:41 I'll give him what he wants.

Joe Rogan 35:43 Right.

Nate Bargatze 35:43 'Cause then he would make fun of you and he'd be great.

Joe Rogan 35:44 Right, right, right.

Nate Bargatze 35:45 So I would always do that.

Joe Rogan 35:47 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 35:47 And so then, uh, so Jay calls him and says, "Hey, uh, our other guy says that Nate can't come to your house for that party." And Patrice was like, "What?" He goes, "I didn't say that." He goes, "That dude doesn't believe in dinosaurs. You don't think I want that in my house?"

Joe Rogan 36:02 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 36:02 "I want that all over my house." He goes, "He can come to the party." And I've lived my life by that. With that i- open-mindedness to go, if someone came up to me and was like, "I don't believe in the moon," I'd rather talk to that guy than a guy that does believe in the moon. Like it's funner to be like, "What's-

Joe Rogan 36:18 Right.

Nate Bargatze 36:18 ... what's, what kind of crazy could they like... I'd do-"

Joe Rogan 36:20 Do you know there's people out there that don't believe in the moon?

Nate Bargatze 36:22 Are there? How's-

Joe Rogan 36:23 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 36:23 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 36:23 No, man. There are people-

Nate Bargatze 36:24 I would love to talk to them.

Joe Rogan 36:25 Yeah, I don't know if I want them to know where I am.Like I, I... there's-

Nate Bargatze 36:30 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 36:30 You know, I don't, I don't ... 'Cause it's gonna be hard to get away from them. Like if they're that crazy. Like there's people-

Nate Bargatze 36:35 Oh, you could give 'em ... Yeah.

Joe Rogan 36:36 #Spacesisfake. You need to Google that.

Nate Bargatze 36:38 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 36:38 Google spaces fake. There's a bunch of people that think that space is fake and that we are on a flat plane.

Nate Bargatze 36:44 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 36:44 Like we're on some sort of a flat plane and that the stars are lights.

Nate Bargatze 36:49 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 36:49 And that this is all, this conspiracy-

Nate Bargatze 36:50 Like a Truman Show?

Joe Rogan 36:52 Yes.

Nate Bargatze 36:52 Okay.

Joe Rogan 36:53 That it's a conspiracy to keep us from understanding that God has created us and that we're, we're special. We're not one of an infinite number of planets in the universe. No. No, we are, we are God's creation and this is, this is the heavenly petri dish or whatever the fuck it is.

Nate Bargatze 37:10 I mean if I start going down that road, I don't know what cap it is, so I'll probably be like, I'll be in it.

Joe Rogan 37:14 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 37:14 (laughs) Like I'll just be like, (laughs) like just in this group.

Joe Rogan 37:18 It's wild, man, because the thing about these YouTube videos is if somebody puts together a YouTube video, what they can do is talk very eloquently and articulately and say shit that's bat shit crazy-

Nate Bargatze 37:29 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 37:29 ... that, that doesn't make any sense at all to a scientist. But if they say it and no one interrupts them and goes, "Stop! That's not how it works. Stop! That's not true. Stop! This is the real statistics. Stop! This is how we know that's not true and this is how they studied it, and this is all the scientists that worked on this for 50 fucking years."

Nate Bargatze 37:45 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 37:45 And then you're making a YouTube video saying that these were all, you know, Nazi propagandists that were put here by the Rockefellers to, you know-

Nate Bargatze 37:51 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 37:51 ... to ruin children's education.

Nate Bargatze 37:53 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 37:53 But th-

Nate Bargatze 37:53 (laughs) Yeah.

Joe Rogan 37:54 You could, you, you could say that-

Nate Bargatze 37:55 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 37:55 ... in a video and if I watch, I'm like, "Fuck, man."

Nate Bargatze 37:57 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 37:58 "You know what I learned today? I learned some crazy shit about space. It's not even real."

Nate Bargatze 38:02 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 38:02 And there's a bunch ... It's kind of died off. Like the flat Earth thing was a great example of that. There was a period of time where it was like a, a mental contagion. Like it, it made its way through a lot of dumb stoners, a lot of people that don't read, a lot of people that don't pay attention to science or just a lot of people that are like really in disbelief of everything the government says. And there was like hundreds of videos about space and, and the Earth being flat and, you know, that there's a, an ice wall around Antarctica. It's kinda gone away now.

Nate Bargatze 38:37 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 38:37 People have abandoned-

Nate Bargatze 38:38 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 38:38 ... for the most part. But I used to follow it, like to the point where it was like, it was one of the most stunning things about the internet, was how many people were out there that really believed the world was flat.

Nate Bargatze 38:47 Yeah. How many people was it though? Could it be that many pe- Is it-

Joe Rogan 38:51 I think it was thousands.

Nate Bargatze 38:52 Thousands.

Joe Rogan 38:53 There was a basketball player. Who was the basketball player?

Nate Bargatze 38:55 Oh yeah, Kyrie Irving.

Joe Rogan 38:56 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 38:56 He was a flat Earther. Uh-

Joe Rogan 38:58 He's not anymore.

Nate Bargatze 38:59 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 38:59 He abandoned it. And, you know, he admitted-

Nate Bargatze 39:01 Did he?

Joe Rogan 39:01 ... he went down-

Nate Bargatze 39:02 Like he ******* saying. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 39:03 Maybe.

Nate Bargatze 39:04 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 39:04 I think he went down a rabbit hole. Like if you ... But this is what I'm saying, like you can go down a YouTube rabbit hole and watch these videos and they make so much sense.

Nate Bargatze 39:13 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 39:14 They'll tell you things and they'll speak in this tone, "And this is why it happened, and this is why you think this, and this is why it's a lie." And then you're like, "Wow! I've been lied to." And it, it's a mind fuck.

Nate Bargatze 39:26 Yeah. I would like to see those guys' families, like just their family life, like their daughter's like, "Oh, I drew a picture," and you're like, "I don't have time for this right now."

Joe Rogan 39:33 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 39:33 "You know, we're ... The Earth is flat."

Joe Rogan 39:34 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 39:34 Like let me just ... Like the weight, if that was true, the weight they have to, to walk around with.

Joe Rogan 39:39 Right.

Nate Bargatze 39:39 They feel like it's a lot.

Joe Rogan 39:40 Like they, they know something-

Nate Bargatze 39:41 They know something that-

Joe Rogan 39:42 ... that everybody else doesn't.

Nate Bargatze 39:43 Everybody doesn't.

Joe Rogan 39:44 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 39:44 That's how I always look at stuff is like if you do conspiracies, you tend to want to be more true than they're not. Like if you feel yourself wanting something to be like, "I hope that's real," you're like, "It's probably not real, dude." Like 'cause it's, it's too good.

Joe Rogan 39:57 Right, that's Bigfoot.

Nate Bargatze 39:58 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 39:59 Bigfoot's too good.

Nate Bargatze 40:00 Ah, I love Bigfoot.

Joe Rogan 40:01 I love Bigfoot.

Nate Bargatze 40:01 I love Bigfoot. I, I, I believe.

Joe Rogan 40:03 I watched this, uh, documentary the other day, um, it was ca- ... I think it was, it's called, um, Missing Persons 411 Hunters or something like that. And what it, it's about, it's like a really screwy documentary. But the, the concept of the documentary is that there's been a bunch of people that just disappeared in the national forest. Is that it? Missing 411: The Hunted. Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 40:29 Oh.

Joe Rogan 40:29 So a national forest, like, there's people that have disappeared with no trace. And uh, not a few of them, but really what it is is just the vastness of the forest. I think people underestimate like how vast forests are.

Nate Bargatze 40:44 It's a lot.

Joe Rogan 40:45 It's a lot. You could-

Nate Bargatze 40:46 There's a-

Joe Rogan 40:46 You could-

Nate Bargatze 40:46 I've been to Oregon, Mount Hood.

Joe Rogan 40:48 Oh, my gosh.

Nate Bargatze 40:49 I told the cab driver, I go, "You guys got a lot of trees here." That's how much I was overwhelmed by the trees.

Joe Rogan 40:53 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 40:54 Just on the ride there, it was uncomfortable. I was like, "This is a lot of trees." He's like, "All right."

Joe Rogan 40:58 Well, the thing about the Pacific Northwest is it's essentially a rainforest, like w- Mount Rainier, all those areas.

Nate Bargatze 41:05 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 41:05 So the amount of water and nutrients in the soil is absurd. So the, the trees are like, they're like Q-tips in a box of Q-tips. Like you can't believe how dense they are. So if you saw a bear moving between those trees, you can convince yourself it was a Sasquatch.

Nate Bargatze 41:21 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 41:21 Especially if you saw a bear standing up on two feet, which they do all the time.

Nate Bargatze 41:24 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 41:24 Bears walk on two feet all the time. There's tons of video of them doing it. So if you saw that in between trees from 100 yards away at dusk when it started getting dark and you're like, "Shit!"

Nate Bargatze 41:36 That's great.

Joe Rogan 41:36 And they make weird noises too, like bears, especially when they're standing up, 'cause a lot of times when they're standing up, they're trying to threaten other bears. So they're, they're like moving towards them and making themselves bigger by standing up. And they'll make this noise like ... Which sounds like a gorilla, right?

Nate Bargatze 41:53 Yeah. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 41:53 But there's tons of video of b- ... I've seen it personally with my eyes in the woods. I've seen bears fight and I've seen bears from 30 yards away stand up and go at each other like that.

Nate Bargatze 42:05 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 42:05 I've seen it and I've seen them make those noises. They're threatening each other. But if you're in the woods and you see that and it's dark out and maybe you've never seen a bear before and, and, you know, maybe you're just fucking out on a hike and you see that, you're like, "Oh, my God. I saw a Bigfoot." And you will dedicate your whole life to like finding Bigfoot and finding proof.... and the, the floor there in the forest is so thick with leaves and pine needles, that when you step on it, it doesn't even leave a footprint.

Nate Bargatze 42:32 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 42:32 It's just like a soft er- like a d- like a composting pile. Like, everything is just sort of deteriorating in these like thick layers of pine needles and leaves and sticks and branches. And you're not gonna find footprints. You're not gonna find anything.

Nate Bargatze 42:49 Did, uh ... You know, uh, Les Stroud?

Joe Rogan 42:53 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 42:53 Uh, he, so he did that show about-

Joe Rogan 42:55 Survivorman Bigfoot, yeah.

Nate Bargatze 42:56 But it just went away.

Joe Rogan 42:58 Bro, that show. I love Les Stroud.

Nate Bargatze 43:01 I, yeah.

Joe Rogan 43:01 I love him.

Nate Bargatze 43:02 Love, love.

Joe Rogan 43:02 I love Survivorman, but that show was so fucking dumb.

Nate Bargatze 43:05 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 43:05 He had a guy on the show that is known in the Bigfoot world as being full of shit.

Nate Bargatze 43:12 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 43:12 Which is bad. Like if ... The Bigfoot world's pretty open-minded.

Nate Bargatze 43:16 (laughs) Yeah. (laughs) I mean ... (laughs)

Joe Rogan 43:19 This is one of the things that I wanted to bring up about that 411, The Hunted thing. There's audio recording that was supposedly taken from the 1970s from Northern California. Um, I wanna say Sonoma. I don't remember where it was. It was somewhere in Northern California, but it's called, they call them the, uh, Samurai sounds. The Samurai ... And it's the weirdest shit ever, man. It's like these guys had this spot that they would go into the, into the mountains and they would hunt every year. And they built this structure out there and then they brought recording equipment and they claim to have recorded sounds of these animals, these Bigfoot, and that they, these Bigfoot were around them all the time while they were up there. Now what's crazy about it is, the sounds are so weird. It sounds like someone pretending to be Japanese that doesn't actually speak Japanese.

Nate Bargatze 44:21 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 44:22 Have you ever heard it?

Nate Bargatze 44:23 No.

Joe Rogan 44:23 It's ... I'm gonna ... We'll play it for you. It's 'cause it's the weirdest shit. It's, it sounds so strange and so fake, but you know, like they have these quote unquote experts that say the human voice is not capable of making sounds remotely similar to this. The ranges, which doesn't make any sense if you know who Michael Winslow is.

Nate Bargatze 44:45 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 44:45 Right?

Nate Bargatze 44:45 Yeah, yeah, I know who that guy, yeah.

Joe Rogan 44:47 That guy who d-

Nate Bargatze 44:47 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 44:47 That guy went on s-

Nate Bargatze 44:48 He does a woman peeing when she goes to the bathroom.

Joe Rogan 44:50 He does everything.

Nate Bargatze 44:51 Yeah, he does everything.

Joe Rogan 44:52 He did Led Zeppelin. He played Whole Lotta Love with his mouth.

Nate Bargatze 44:55 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 44:55 And it sounds incredible. But, um, this Samurai sound, like there's these loud "Whoops! Whoops!" And these guys are like in the foreground, you know like the guys who are recording, they're trying to communicate with these things. They sound so calm. I mean, if there really was giant fucking eight foot apes out there wandering around like, you know, two, 300 yards away from you screaming and whooping and talking, would you really ... And you're in the woods. Would you really be so calm? Would- wouldn't you be freaking the fuck out with these guys?

Nate Bargatze 45:28 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 45:28 Do you have it?

Narrator 45:29 Uh, yeah. I'm trying to make sure I find the right thing, 'cause I've stumbled across some traps.

Joe Rogan 45:34 Oh.

Narrator 45:35 It's what people are make- fucking around the internet.

Joe Rogan 45:36 (clicks tongue) I wish I could remember the gentleman's name.

Narrator 45:38 Well, I think I have it, is all I'm saying. So Ronald J. Morehead and Allen Berry maybe. Is that right?

Joe Rogan 45:44 Yes, Ron Morehead, yeah. (clears throat) Yeah.

Narrator 45:47 Okay.

Joe Rogan 45:47 That's it, the Sierra Mountains. That's what it is.

Nate Bargatze 45:52 All right.

Joe Rogan 45:52 And so, um, it's the weirdest shit ever. Listen, just listen to this. You're gonna ...

Narrator 45:57 I read what it could be, but we'll listen first.

Joe Rogan 45:58 Oh, could be bullshit.

Nate Bargatze 46:00 Yeah, well.

Joe Rogan 46:00 That's what it could be.

Narrator 46:02 (radio static) Uh, uh, uh ... Whoa, whoa. (static) Uh, uh.

Nate Bargatze 46:22 That sounds like it said, "All aboard."

Narrator 46:25 Uh, uh. Uh, whoa. Whoa. Uh, uh. Whoa. Come on. (coughs)

Joe Rogan 46:43 This, this is the guy.

Narrator 46:44 (clears throat)

Joe Rogan 46:45 This is ... Hold on. Stop, stop, stop. This is a terrible version of it.

Nate Bargatze 46:48 Yeah, wow.

Joe Rogan 46:49 There's a better version of it where you can hear the guys really clearly, the people talking.

Nate Bargatze 46:53 Oh, that's fine.

Joe Rogan 46:53 I don't know why that's so scratchy. But they, they're like, "They're over by the lake." Like they're, they're talking like that and they hear ...

Narrator 47:01 Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

Joe Rogan 47:04 This very strange sound.

Nate Bargatze 47:05 And they're-

Joe Rogan 47:06 That-

Nate Bargatze 47:06 ... ca- being calm about it.

Joe Rogan 47:07 Yeah. And these-

Nate Bargatze 47:07 Yes.

Joe Rogan 47:08 ... you know, supposed vocal experts are analyzing it. "The human body is incapable of making such sounds."

Nate Bargatze 47:14 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 47:14 (speaks in reverse) You know, and that area of ... You got it?

Narrator 47:20 I don't know. It says HD and I don't know if that's better.

Joe Rogan 47:21 Okay, well here. In for a night view. Yeah.

Narrator 47:27 (knocking)

Joe Rogan 47:29 They're knocking. That's another thing that Sasquatch do. They knock.

Narrator 47:36 (knocking) (whooping)

Joe Rogan 47:49 That one's weird.

Narrator 47:51 (whooping) Uh, uh, uh. Uh, uh. Uh, uh.

Joe Rogan 48:07 Scoot ahead a little bit and hear the Samurai sounds. Sure. Still sounds terrible. (clears throat) Anyway, these people believe that shit. Les Stroud was balls deep in this.... balls, d-

Nate Bargatze 48:26 With that guy?

Joe Rogan 48:27 Apparently, he had an experience, and I talked to him about his experience, it was pretty interesting. He was in, um... Not with that guy, but he, but he was in Alaska and, uh, apparently, he heard some crazy noises, like some monkey sounds outside of his... I- in the middle of nowhere. No one was-

Nate Bargatze 48:41 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:42 ... ever near. And he said he heard something run away, some bipedal sound of something running away. But again, even though he's an experienced woodsman and he's a guy who's, you know, camped out countless nights in the middle of nowhere, and survives in the middle of nowhere, and documents it. Like he's the reason why those Survivor shows exist.

Nate Bargatze 49:03 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 49:04 'Cause that guy literally would starve to death and try to eat, like, bark and whatever the fuck he could-

Nate Bargatze 49:09 (laughs) Yeah.

Joe Rogan 49:10 ... for sur-... You could see his face, like, sinking in. It was... He was losing weight. I mean, he really did do that. He did all sorts of different things to try to survive and then documented how he was doing it and what he would do. But he got obsessed with Bigfoot and then developed that Bigfoot show. And unfortunately, a lot of people l- lost a lot of faith in him because of that. They're like, "No, you're the legit Survivor guy and now you're doing this show." And this is why it's ridiculous. There was one episode of the show where they had this guy who he was with who ha- p- had video of a Sasquatch, like high-definition video, and it looks so fake.

Nate Bargatze 49:45 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 49:45 It's like he's... Like, the Sasquatch is looking at him through the woods and he's like, "There he is. There he is." And it's a guy with a mask on.

Nate Bargatze 49:51 That's not... There he is.

Joe Rogan 49:51 And he goes... It's s-

Nate Bargatze 49:52 He yells out, "I'm a Sasquatch." You're like, "Oh, God, he just yelled that out."

Joe Rogan 49:55 He goes, "Hey," and just makes the, makes the Samurai noise.

Nate Bargatze 49:57 (laughs) Bigfoot.

Joe Rogan 49:58 But this... You know, the, the guy who had the video is known to be like full of shit, and here he's got this guy on his show and then he... You know, is this real? You be the judge. Like, yeah, I'm gonna say it's not real.

Nate Bargatze 50:11 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 50:11 It's a guy with a fucking mask on.

Nate Bargatze 50:13 I think I did read that, that that guy was very, mmm, not respected.

Joe Rogan 50:17 Yes.

Nate Bargatze 50:17 In that...

Joe Rogan 50:18 By the Bigfoot community.

Nate Bargatze 50:19 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 50:20 You know? The Bigfoot community.

Nate Bargatze 50:22 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 50:22 Again, very open-minded. (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 50:24 Yeah, yeah. He averages into everything.

Joe Rogan 50:27 This other thing-

Nate Bargatze 50:28 Like-

Joe Rogan 50:28 ... like, they would, they would see trees that would fall over, like, in certain patterns and they were convinced that Sasquatch was leaning these trees against each other.

Nate Bargatze 50:39 I thought it was de- like, yeah, to the... Not... M- to let you know where not to go.

Joe Rogan 50:42 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 50:43 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 50:43 They... That's... They had this idea. I mean, it's all theory, right? This idea that the reason-

Nate Bargatze 50:47 Yeah, I think I've been following the wrong guy, dude. I believe all of the stuff that he likes fake.

Joe Rogan 50:50 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 50:50 I'm like, "Yeah?" (laughs) I only watch that less... Traveling 'cause of that other guy.

Joe Rogan 50:55 Well, I w-

Nate Bargatze 50:56 That was-

Joe Rogan 50:56 I want it to be real. That's the thing, man.

Nate Bargatze 50:58 I do, too.

Joe Rogan 50:59 If someone had a convincing Bigfoot encounter where they caught it on video where I was like, "Holy sh-... What is that?" Like, "What is that?" Or there was something, but there's nothing. Like, I, uh... You know, I've, I've talked to a lot of those people when I... I did this show called Joe Rogan Questions Everything for Syfy, and me and Duncan Trussell actually went camping in the Pacific Northwest. We didn't really camp. We pretended to go camping and then we went to a hotel.

Nate Bargatze 51:25 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 51:25 And then we came back-

Nate Bargatze 51:26 (laughs) Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 51:26 ... the next morning, like, "Well, rough night of camping." (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 51:28 Yeah, yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 51:29 But we were out there for days-

Nate Bargatze 51:31 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 51:31 ... trying to look for Sasquatch and talking to people that hunt for Sasquatch. And the one conclusion that we came to is it's a bunch of unfuckable white dudes.

Nate Bargatze 51:39 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 51:39 Like, that's-

Nate Bargatze 51:40 They're just out there, yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 51:41 They're just out there camping.

Nate Bargatze 51:42 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 51:42 It's just... But the, the desire for it to be real is so strong. There's-

Nate Bargatze 51:48 It would change... I watched, you know, like that Finding Bigfoot show. I used to always think... 'Cause people would be like, "Why is it on?" I'm like, "I don't know, man, 'cause it's fun to watch." And if they find him, the world is different now. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 51:59 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 51:59 Like, if they come back with Bigfoot, everything's different.

Joe Rogan 52:02 Everything's different.

Nate Bargatze 52:02 Everything's different with the alien thing.

Joe Rogan 52:04 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 52:04 The fact that they've been saying it's... That, that's, like, true, you're like... It's a lot, dude. That's a lot to take... If we get... You know, I know that they have the videos and stuff of the aliens, but, like, if you, if you... We get up straight up and start talking to one?

Joe Rogan 52:16 Mm-hmm.

Nate Bargatze 52:16 I mean, w- w- w- what... I don't know what's gonna happen.

Joe Rogan 52:18 Well, here's something that came out, uh, today, Jamie. I'm gonna send you this, uh, 'cause, uh, Sagar Enjeti from, uh, Rising on the Hill and I have been going back and forth with this and I, I found this today and sent it to him. It's, um... I'll send it to you right now, Jamie. Um, it says, "Paradigm-shifting UFO tech that alters spacetime is operable, US Navy Chief Tech Officer." So it's some story that I didn't bother looking into because I wa- I saw it when I was on my way out the door and I was like, "What in the fuck is this?" 'Cause there's been all these sightings of these things that move in some weird way. Paradigm-shifting UFO tech, they're... So, there's these things that been... That move in this weird way that don't show any propulsion system and... Oh, due to censorship. Please join us on Telegram. I'm gonna say, "Documents obtained by The Drive show the revolutionary technology that has capability to alter spacetime may actually be operable according to the Naval Aviation Enterprise Chief Technology Officer, Dr. James..." How do you say that name? Shehe, What do you think?

Narrator 53:31 Why is it operable in quotes? What is that?

Joe Rogan 53:34 I don't know. Good question. "Reflect on wha- uh, why is technology that has the potential to change the entire human experience for the better always used for the defense purposes and military applications? What are the bettements... What about the betterment of humanity?" Yeah. I don't know. Um, but it's Christopher Mellon who's that guy who keeps coming up with all this, uh, UFO tech stuff. Can you scroll back up, please?

Narrator 53:59 If someone's just, like, writing... I was reading through Twitter, it's, like, a s- story. It's not really, like, an article.

Joe Rogan 54:05 Right. Um, "Twitter feed of Christopher Mellon, the former Deputy Assistant Defense Secretary for Intelligence from '97 to 2002. Doing so, I came across an interesting post from The Drive regarding documents they received via the Freedoma- Freedom of Information Act regarding a spacetime modification weapon developed by the US Navy, which apparently has already gone through experimental testing. This, in turn, led t- me..."... to evidence suggesting that other revolutionary type of technology that could no doubt be used to change the world for the better, blah, blah, blah, was already operable. Yeah, I don't know. But thas- this is what, uh ... If you pay attention to the UFO world, do you pay attention to that shit at all?

Nate Bargatze 54:42 Uh, not, like actively.

Joe Rogan 54:44 There's a guy named Bob Lazar. And he's one of the-

Nate Bargatze 54:46 I do know that from ... 'Cause you talked to him. Yeah. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 54:49 Yeah. It was one of the weirdest conversations I've ever had.

Nate Bargatze 54:51 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 54:51 'Cause you're like, "I mean, are you crazy? Are you full of shit or is this real?"

Nate Bargatze 54:54 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 54:54 'Cause if it is real-

Nate Bargatze 54:55 It's wild.

Joe Rogan 54:56 ... this, this thing is a, uh, special effect created ... A guy who was a special effect artist. Do you remember his name, Jamie, who made this thing for us? This gentleman. He's got a ... Um, designs, designs by Perry. Designs by Perry at Instagram. And he created this thing. And this is, like, a scale model of what Bob Lazar supposedly worked on. He was hired by the United States military to work at Area S4, which is part of the Area 51, like s- Area 51-

Nate Bargatze 55:36 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 55:36 ... Site S4, Site 4, was this place where he allegedly worked to back engineer these spaceships. And the way these things moved around was exactly how this Christopher Mellon guy, or this article rather that quoted him, is describing. That they used some sort of gravity space-time bending technology. So they didn't use a propulsion system like a rocket shoots flame out the back. They bent time in front of them and just would shoot instantaneously to wherever the fuck they wanted to go.

Nate Bargatze 56:08 So you'd be, like, instantly be able to go.

Joe Rogan 56:10 Instantly. What's fucked is that there was an instance off of the, uh, coast of San Diego in 2004, where, uh, a navy pilot, uh, by the name of Commander David Fravor, who I've also had on the show, experienced this thing that they called the Tic Tac UFO. They tracked it with radar, they tracked it with, um, their, the camera systems on the, on the, on the pl- on their plane. And they even have video footage of this thing. It went from 80,000 feet above sea level to one in a second.

Nate Bargatze 56:44 Wow.

Joe Rogan 56:45 That's the amount of time that it takes radar to do the blip, blip.

Nate Bargatze 56:47 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 56:48 Blip, blip. So in that time, it traveled 80,000 feet. They have no idea how the fuck it did that. It shows no propulsion, heat signature. They took video footage of this thing and it went from there, it took off, where they couldn't even follow it with their eye, it just v- disappeared, to the predetermined destination where they were supposed to coordinate later. So it's like it's reading the tracking systems or reading where they were going. And the people that worked on the aircraft carrier were telling the, the fighter pilot, like, "We've been seeing these things over, you know ... We see them, like, every couple weeks and we have no idea what the fuck's going on."

Nate Bargatze 57:23 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 57:23 And they, they just say, "Well, there it is, you know."

Nate Bargatze 57:26 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 57:26 "What, what are we gonna do about that?"

Nate Bargatze 57:27 Yeah. Yeah, but I like to picture the, like, an alien in that Tic Tac. He's like, "Whoa. Slow it down, d- You're kind of crazy right now."

Joe Rogan 57:33 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 57:33 Like he's just, he's having a bad day in there. 'Cause he's gotta be having just a day, whoever's in there. Some kind of day.

Joe Rogan 57:39 Maybe.

Nate Bargatze 57:39 Maybe having a day. That's a, it's a lot to ... Yeah, I don't ... You think it's, like, a lot to just tell people? Like, if they had to be, like, to tell, like, just earth, all of us humans on earth to, like, wrap our head around what would happen?

Joe Rogan 57:53 I think what do you say if that's all you know? Like, if you are the military, and all you know is that something can do these things, something can move at the speed ... You know, the New York Times had a front page article about it-

Nate Bargatze 58:05 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 58:05 ... a couple years ago. And, um, b- basically, they're saying, "Hey, you know, there are videos of things moving in a way that we don't understand, that aren't exhibiting a heat signature that indicates a propulsion system, and we don't know what it is." And this is ... And then the, the ... There was, uh, the COVID-19 bill that just got passed. And one of the provisions in the COVID-19 bill was that they have 60, six- no, 180 days to release all the information they have about UFOs.

Nate Bargatze 58:38 That's a l- uh, yeah. That's-

Joe Rogan 58:39 But I don't know if they're gonna do anything with ... I think they're gonna do nothing with that.

Nate Bargatze 58:42 That's funny that it's in this, like, COVID-19 bill.

Joe Rogan 58:42 They go, "Yeah, we don't have anything."

Nate Bargatze 58:44 Like, that's a-

Joe Rogan 58:45 Well, a lot of weird shit-

Nate Bargatze 58:46 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 58:46 ... was in the COVID nine bill, 19 bill. Like, like, uh, foreign aid. There was a lot of foreign-

Nate Bargatze 58:50 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 58:50 ... aid to Pakistan, aid to all these countries. It's, like, people just to get it passed, they're like, "Okay, I will, we'll say yes, but I want you to do a little, little favor for me and put this in the bill."

Nate Bargatze 59:00 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 59:00 And their, you know, just shows you how greasy politicians are.

Nate Bargatze 59:03 Yeah, yeah. It's kinda crazy.

Joe Rogan 59:04 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 59:05 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 59:05 But that's allegedly what all that-

Nate Bargatze 59:08 What?

Joe Rogan 59:08 ... UFO technology is.

Nate Bargatze 59:09 Wow.

Joe Rogan 59:10 So if that's real and if that article is based on anything that's even remotely true, that they, that they're actually doing, th- the government is actually doing experiments on these things, and they have this technology, that would kind of explain whatever these things are that they're seeing. That instead of it being alien technology, it's some super high-level military tests. And they've figured out how to do some things that we don't understand yet. And the question is, how did they develop this stuff? Did they develop it from UFOs? Or is the UFO thing the coverup because they have, like, some super high-tech weapon and they don't want other countries to know about it? So to mock it, they'll say it's, like, alien technology to make it seem-

Nate Bargatze 59:50 They want you to believe it.

Joe Rogan 59:50 ... ridiculous.

Nate Bargatze 59:52 If we traveled like that, that'd be huge for road comics.

Joe Rogan 59:55 Oh, yeah.

Nate Bargatze 59:55 Just to go bounce around. (laughs) Like-

Joe Rogan 59:57 Instantly.

Nate Bargatze 59:57 Instantly.

Joe Rogan 59:57 No jet lag.

Nate Bargatze 59:58 Just popping ... Or d- did, did you use that technology just to be like, "Where'd you go Funny Bone?"

Joe Rogan 1:00:03 Boom.

Nate Bargatze 1:00:03 Just to s- (snaps fingers)

Joe Rogan 1:00:04 You're in Denver.

Nate Bargatze 1:00:04 Yeah, yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:00:05 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 1:00:05 Denver Comedy Works.

Joe Rogan 1:00:07 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 1:00:07 Hey, I was just featuring, I could ... Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:00:08 Yeah. Boom, you're in Poughkeepsie. Look, I'm at Bananas. Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 1:00:11 I like to use that much technology for ... Would you do that even flying for just the, the least amount of comics just doing dumb jokes?

Joe Rogan 1:00:18 Right. (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 1:00:19 You're using ... I mean, people died over this, this technology.

Joe Rogan 1:00:22 Right.

Nate Bargatze 1:00:22 And you're like, "I just told some far jokes on stage for ..."

Joe Rogan 1:00:25 Well, what if they found out that some people died from it? You know, just like they think that some people die from vaccines, but-... but it's a very small number in comparison to people that it's gonna help. What if some people died when they did this jump and they just, shoop, you know, to some other place? Some people just melted and they're like, "Hey, what happened to Tom?" "Oh, he's got that gene variant."

Nate Bargatze 1:00:46 Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:00:47 And now Tom's a puddle.

Nate Bargatze 1:00:48 Yeah. Well, I would've, I would imagine people die from ... Like, they would be like, they'd just be like, "Yeah, yeah, yeah. We've never done this before, dude." (laughs) Like ...

Joe Rogan 1:00:54 Could be. Yeah, I mean, maybe that's-

Nate Bargatze 1:00:58 A monkey, they throw ... Don't they use monkeys a lot?

Joe Rogan 1:01:01 They used to. Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 1:01:02 Oh.

Joe Rogan 1:01:02 For space travel.

Nate Bargatze 1:01:03 Do they just have 'em around?

Joe Rogan 1:01:05 Well-

Nate Bargatze 1:01:05 Do they?

Joe Rogan 1:01:05 Unfortunately, yes. They have 'em for medical research. They-

Nate Bargatze 1:01:09 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:01:09 ... have 'em for all sorts of shit. Yeah, not good.

Nate Bargatze 1:01:12 It's not good. It's tough being a monkey.

Joe Rogan 1:01:15 Tough times. They-

Nate Bargatze 1:01:15 Tough times.

Joe Rogan 1:01:16 They experiment with makeup on monkeys.

Nate Bargatze 1:01:18 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:01:18 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 1:01:18 That's just how it is.

Joe Rogan 1:01:19 Put lipstick on a monkey.

Nate Bargatze 1:01:20 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:01:21 Imagine the indignity. You're in a cage.

Nate Bargatze 1:01:23 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:01:23 You're locked up, and you're kinda smart.

Nate Bargatze 1:01:24 You're just losing all your power. (laughs) Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:01:26 You're kinda smart.

Nate Bargatze 1:01:27 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:01:27 You know, you're not, like, people smart, but you're close.

Nate Bargatze 1:01:29 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:01:30 You got hands and you're holding onto the bars. Dude, I remember I went to a, a zoo once. I can't remember what city it was in, but I remember I was with my kids and we walked by this monkey cage. And this monkey was by itself in a small cage, screaming, like a, like a crazy person, like a person trapped. Just, "Waa! Waa!" And I remember thinking, "Oh my God, this is the saddest thing I've ever seen in my life." Like, this poor monkey wants to be in the jungle, wants to be swinging around on trees and eating fruit and having a good time with his monkey friends. Instead, he's alone in a cage being stared at by people all day long, just stared, stared at.

Nate Bargatze 1:02:08 And then you're like ... Then we took a picture when we got out of there. We go, "All right, everybody get over." (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:02:14 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 1:02:14 You still do it 'cause you're like, "Well, I'm here."

Joe Rogan 1:02:15 Hey, what am I gonna do?

Nate Bargatze 1:02:16 What am I gonna do? It is ... But don't they have ... Aren't ... Sometimes, like, the, the ... I don't know, but you wanna believe that these zoos are ... You know, it's like a lot of times, it's animals that are hurt or can't, that wouldn't survive. I mean, they tell you, they tell you that, so you wanna believe that, that you're not going to some-

Joe Rogan 1:02:33 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 1:02:33 ... crazy, you know, thing.

Joe Rogan 1:02:35 I don't know, man. You know, I think there's some endangered species that are kept in zoos and, you know, they, they can protect their numbers in a certain way in zoos. There's probably a better way to do it, though. There's probably a better way to do it. They would have ... They would need a lot of land.

Nate Bargatze 1:02:51 Pacific Northwest.

Joe Rogan 1:02:52 Nah. Let the gorillas loose.

Nate Bargatze 1:02:54 Let 'em go. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:02:55 You know? I think, you know, it's, it's weird when ... (sighs) One of the things that's weird, and this is a pragmatic way of looking at it, but kind of a fucked up way of looking at it, is most species that have ever lived have gone extinct.

Nate Bargatze 1:03:11 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:03:11 If they can stop things from going extinct, what if the next step is bringing things back? Well, if they can bring things back, like, what if they just start bringing back shit? Like, a bunch of things.

Nate Bargatze 1:03:20 Like a raptor.

Joe Rogan 1:03:21 Sabertooth tiger.

Nate Bargatze 1:03:22 Yeah, sabertooth tiger.

Joe Rogan 1:03:22 Just start bringing shit back. Why not? People would be excited, for sure. But then what are we doing? Like, if we're just gonna keep ... I, I'm not saying we should let things go extinct, and I'm definitely not saying we should allow human beings' actions to make things go extinct and do nothing to prevent it, but I am saying it is ... There is an inevitability of life, and I don't think we wanna, we wanna accept that because I think human beings, because we have a finite lifespan, we have a finite life, and we know it's gonna end. We, we are fearful of that. We're fearful of animals dying as well, fearful of losing animals. We're fearful of ... Like, we can't stop all things from going extinct, 'cause things went extinct way before people were ever around.

Nate Bargatze 1:04:08 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:04:08 They just don't work right in the new environment, and the environment changes and evolves-

Nate Bargatze 1:04:12 And it's probably a good thing.

Joe Rogan 1:04:13 ... and ecosystems.

Nate Bargatze 1:04:13 T-rex not-

Joe Rogan 1:04:14 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 1:04:14 ... being here is, uh, that's a big deal.

Joe Rogan 1:04:17 Probably.

Nate Bargatze 1:04:17 It's just a lot easier to do things.

Joe Rogan 1:04:19 What about one of 'em, just one of 'em, on Jurassic Park?

Nate Bargatze 1:04:22 (laughs) That we just leave?

Joe Rogan 1:04:22 On an island.

Nate Bargatze 1:04:23 Well, they just ... They, they have one. They go, "We let him loose in America, so y'all just deal with that every day."

Joe Rogan 1:04:28 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 1:04:29 Like, you just don't know where he's at. That guy's just out there. They go, "All right, we brought one back."

Joe Rogan 1:04:33 Did you guys check the app before you went on vacation to see where Godzilla is?

Nate Bargatze 1:04:36 Yeah, where is he at?

Joe Rogan 1:04:38 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 1:04:38 I heard that there's a place you can drive, uh, from Louisville to, uh, Louisville, Kentucky, to Nashville, uh, when you're driving down, uh, uh, 65. And they have a life-sized Tyrannosaurus rex on the side of the road. But I always liked seeing it 'cause you wonder ... You're always like, "How big was it?" Like, when you walk around, you wanna see a tree to be like, "Can you imagine that tree just being ..." It was like a-

Joe Rogan 1:05:02 A giant lizard.

Nate Bargatze 1:05:02 ... a giant, giant lizard that would just eat your car.

Joe Rogan 1:05:05 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 1:05:07 And you gotta ... Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:05:08 Have you been to Museum of National History, Natural History and looked at those giant skele- skeletons of them?

Nate Bargatze 1:05:12 Yes, yeah. Yep.

Joe Rogan 1:05:13 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 1:05:14 It's enormous.

Joe Rogan 1:05:14 Y- I think it's hard to imagine 'cause you're seeing a skeleton. It's sort of this framework of what a thing is, and yeah, like, I kinda get it. But if they had one that they did up, like special effect style, and made it really look like a T-rex, like ... They don't really know what a T-rex actually looked ... They think they might've had feathers. Do you know that?

Nate Bargatze 1:05:35 No, I bet they wouldn't appreciate it, though.

Joe Rogan 1:05:38 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 1:05:38 The, the T-rex. Like, they-

Joe Rogan 1:05:40 They think that a lot of dinosaurs were, in fact, in the bird family.

Nate Bargatze 1:05:45 Hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:05:46 You know, 'cause a lot of birds today, they exhibit a lot of the things, a lot of characteristics that dinosaurs had. They think that a lot of-

Nate Bargatze 1:05:53 That's a lot. That's more than I've ever heard.

Joe Rogan 1:05:55 Really?

Nate Bargatze 1:05:55 We're in a whole ... Yeah. I don't know how much I've talked about dinosaurs, to be honest.

Joe Rogan 1:05:59 (laughs)

Nate Bargatze 1:05:59 But, like, I don't know how many conversations I've been in, but I've never ... That's never been sprung on me.

Joe Rogan 1:06:04 One of my kids is, uh, my youngest daughter is o- obsessed with dinosaurs.

Nate Bargatze 1:06:07 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:06:07 She knows a lot about 'em. She knows a lot about weird shit. Yeah, but you, uh ... That, that's what birds are. Birds are basically dinosaurs that lived.

Nate Bargatze 1:06:16 Wow.

Joe Rogan 1:06:16 Like chickens.

Nate Bargatze 1:06:17 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:06:18 Chickens are like survival dino-

Nate Bargatze 1:06:20 (clears throat)

Joe Rogan 1:06:20 They've even found really recently some fossils that show feathers, 'cause up until now, it was a theory. But then they found dinosaur fossils with fossilized feathers that indicate this dinosaur was like a bird, that it was covered in feathers.

Nate Bargatze 1:06:35 That's crazy.

Joe Rogan 1:06:35 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 1:06:36 I did- I had no idea that they were.... that, that, that, that, any of that was true.

Joe Rogan 1:06:40 Yeah. They have a, there's a version, a life-size version of a raptor that's in a museum in Bozeman, Montana, and on one side, it shows what it would look like if it was like a lizard, like a crocodile or something, and on the other side, it shows it covered in feathers. And it goes over this theory that they might have had feathers, that they might have been-

Nate Bargatze 1:07:03 I love that they have both those up there.

Joe Rogan 1:07:05 Yeah.

Nate Bargatze 1:07:05 Like, it's like being like, "We don't know for sure, but like, it's probably one of those two."

Joe Rogan 1:07:09 It's pretty dope. See if you can find that.

Narrator 1:07:10 Yeah, I'll go look it up.

Joe Rogan 1:07:10 J- J- you got it? Yeah. It's pretty dope, 'cause why not? Well, why wouldn't they have feathers? I mean... There it is. That's the thing it might've looked like.

Nate Bargatze 1:07:17 Oh, okay. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:07:18 But on the other side, it sh- they'll show it... Does it show the other side too?

Narrator 1:07:23 Yeah, but there's a prob- there's a high school there. (laughs) Their team name is the Raptors, so I'm looking it up as well.

Nate Bargatze 1:07:28 Oh.

Joe Rogan 1:07:29 Yeah, in Montana.

Narrator 1:07:30 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:07:31 Yeah. So that's it.

Nate Bargatze 1:07:32 Ah.

Joe Rogan 1:07:32 That's the thing.

Nate Bargatze 1:07:33 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:07:35 So one side of it... I think I'm right. I think one side of it was-

Narrator 1:07:39 I mean, we've definitely looked it up before. That's why it-

Joe Rogan 1:07:40 Yeah.

Narrator 1:07:40 ... came up so quick, but that's-

Nate Bargatze 1:07:42 Most I know is from-

Joe Rogan 1:07:43 ... hard to find it.

Nate Bargatze 1:07:43 ... Jurassic Park. So.