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Joe Rogan Experience #1623 - Doug Stanhope

Doug Stanhope is a standup comedian, author, and host of the Doug Stanhope Podcast. Check out his latest audiobook No Encore for the Donkey, available now as an Audible Original.

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Jun 27, 20242h 50mWatch on YouTube ↗

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  1. 0:002:50

    Stanhope emerges from a year of lockdown: nerves, packing, and road re-entry

    1. JR

      (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

    2. NA

      The Joe Rogan Experience.

    3. JR

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music plays) Douglas.

    4. DS

      I am fucking nervous.

    5. JR

      Why? For real?

    6. DS

      Yeah.

    7. JR

      Why?

    8. DS

      Uh, it's a good- no, it's a good thing. I haven't left my fucking house in a year. I mean, except for-

    9. JR

      You've been totally locked up?

    10. DS

      Well, I mean, I go to the grocery store. Uh-

    11. JR

      How did you, how did you avoid getting it? You didn't get it at all, right?

    12. DS

      No.

    13. JR

      The cooties?

    14. DS

      No.

    15. JR

      Nothing?

    16. DS

      Because everyone I know is a shut-in too.

    17. JR

      (laughs)

    18. DS

      And I fucking loved it. It's, it's like, I left a day after my year anniversary. Like, I packed a week before coming here.

    19. JR

      So, all you've done is go to the food store?

    20. DS

      Yep.

    21. JR

      Wow.

    22. DS

      Uh, well, I went up to Phoenix for New Years to see a... it's a long story, to see a dog that I almost kept, uh, but I gave away. Anyway, so yes, basically no, I have not left-

    23. JR

      (laughs)

    24. DS

      ... fucking Bisbee, Arizona in a year.

    25. JR

      Wow.

    26. DS

      And I didn't think it affected me until I left. It's like if you stayed in bed for a year going, "I don't need to walk. I know how to walk." And then after a year you're like, "Fuck, my legs." (laughs) "I'm atrophied."

    27. JR

      What feels... What feels the weirdest?

    28. DS

      Well, just figuring out how to pack for the road. I packed everything. I drove and, uh, I left Sunday to be here Wednesday. It's a 13-hour drive. I could have done it in one shot. (laughs) But I was so excited, I was like, "I'm gonna leave on Sunday and just take the back roads and, uh..." Like, I practiced talking on the phone before I came here.

    29. JR

      (laughs)

    30. DS

      An hour and a half before, I'm just calling people... Like, I don't talk to anyone on the phone. The only time I, you know, use the phone is to figure out where to meet you to talk. I don't socialize on the phone.

  2. 2:504:58

    Goofy suits, pajama comfort, and staying financially low-maintenance

    1. DS

      Yes. You notice I have fucking... I did... Like, I brought two different suits, like goofy suits.

    2. JR

      Right.

    3. DS

      I'm like, "I've been wearing pajamas for a year. I would... I think I would be even more awkward if I was wearing a suit, especially with stupid hair."

    4. JR

      When did the goofy suits become a thing with you? Like, what year do you think that-

    5. DS

      1989 it started in telemarketing-

    6. JR

      (laughs)

    7. DS

      ... because my mother would send me goofy suits like that because they had just gone out of style, like in that earlier... that decade.

    8. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    9. DS

      So, they're, you know, fucking... It's like buying acid wash jeans now. You know, they're a fucking nickel a pair at the thrift store.

    10. JR

      I think Jamie has a few pairs. Do you have any of those?

    11. NA

      Acid wash sweatpants?

    12. JR

      Oh, yeah, that's right. Sweatpants.

    13. DS

      (laughs)

    14. JR

      Yeah, but that is your signature shit now, the goofy suit.

    15. DS

      Yeah, and I go, "I don't think I'm ready to put on a goofy suit. I don't know if it would clash with the goofy hair." Because people will show up at my shows in goofy suits-

    16. JR

      Oh, no.

    17. DS

      ... but they'll have like plaid on plaid and you go, "No, that doesn't work."

    18. JR

      (laughs)

    19. DS

      Like, I accessorize perfectly in a goofy suit but I go, "I have the goofy hair now. Is that like polka dots on plaid? I don't know."

    20. JR

      Right, have you gone too far?

    21. DS

      Yeah, I want to be comfortable here so I'm wearing pajamas like I have for the last year.

    22. JR

      Why don't you just wear pajamas?

    23. DS

      That's what I'm wearing. Well, pajama pants.

    24. JR

      Are those pajama pants?

    25. DS

      Yeah.

    26. JR

      Okay. There you go.

    27. DS

      And this is... this was my old travel shirt. I wore this any time I traveled. I'm like, "Yeah, I want to be comfortable. I don't want to fucking worry about my tie clip."

    28. JR

      You've stayed within your means very well. Like, you've never had to worry about finances. Like, you've... you dialed that in early.

    29. DS

      Yeah.

    30. JR

      You never fell into the trap a lot of people do where they like buy a bigger house or buy a bigger car or this or that?

  3. 4:589:27

    Vaccines, masks, and the ‘context collapse’ of viral clips

    1. JR

      (laughs) When do you think you're gonna start working again? Are you gonna get the vaccine?

    2. DS

      I got my first shot.

    3. JR

      Which one? The Pfizer or the Moderna?

    4. DS

      No, Moderna. I got my first shot (laughs) about two weeks ago. Two weeks ago tomorrow.

    5. JR

      Why is it funny?

    6. DS

      Because I just realized I still have the fucking Band-Aid when I took a bath last night.

    7. JR

      (laughs)

    8. DS

      I'm such a fucking slothful pig when it comes to bathing.

    9. JR

      Oh, that's hilarious.

    10. DS

      And it's still there. I didn't wash that hard that it came off even last night. (laughs)

    11. JR

      They're resilient, those Band-Aids.

    12. NA

      Mm-hmm.

    13. JR

      They'll stick around for a while if you let them.

    14. DS

      Well, I'm gonna get my follow-up shot two weeks from now.

    15. JR

      And they'll just peel that off.

    16. DS

      From the same lady and I want her to see the same dirty bandage and make her take it off. (laughs)

    17. JR

      (laughs)

    18. DS

      I know that's rude but I think it's funny.

    19. JR

      So, you're getting the shots in Bisbee? Is it hard to get it? Or do they have a good supply?

    20. DS

      Uh, yeah. Well, it just... I don't want to get anyone in trouble but I probably cut a line.

    21. JR

      Oh, don't say anything. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I get it. Yeah.

    22. DS

      But yesterday Cochise County tweeted, "Okay, now 18 and up."And I go, "Yeah, that's great you Tweeted that but, uh, maybe nine people in all of Cochise County are on Twitter. (laughs) You gotta go door to door to fucking alert these people."

    23. JR

      The UFC contacted me. They have a large supply of, uh, Johnson & Johnson vaccines, that's the one you only take one shot, it's different. It's on MR- mRNA vaccine, it's a different vaccine. What is that called, an adenovirus? Is that what it's called? Do you know what it's called? Some sort of different shot. But they, uh, they wanna give it to me this weekend.

    24. DS

      Oh, so you haven't had your first yet?

    25. JR

      I was, I was gonna head down and get it. No.

    26. DS

      All right. I, I, I don't, I don't know your... You know, I, I just-

    27. JR

      It's not anti-vaccine

    28. DS

      ... I hear about you.

    29. JR

      Oh. You hear about me.

    30. DS

      It's like, "I think he's an anti-masker. Well maybe he's an-

  4. 9:2711:38

    COVID as Stanhope’s perfect excuse: solitude, quitting comedy cycles, and moral tradeoffs

    1. DS

      There, that's my hypocrisy. I got... First of all, COVID for me for a year has been the best excuse I've ever had. This is one of the best years of my life-

    2. JR

      (laughs)

    3. DS

      ... was 2020-

    4. JR

      Just allowed-

    5. DS

      ... plus one. Uh, was, yeah, to have an excuse to not socialize, to not work. 'Cause I'm legendary for every three years going, "Fuck this, I'm done with comedy." (laughs)

    6. JR

      Yeah, you quit for like six months and then you-

    7. DS

      And I know that I'm lying.

    8. JR

      Right.

    9. DS

      But, uh, like, uh, mentally, this time I had an excuse to not work. I had an excuse why you couldn't come over, where generally I'm polite and you wanna come down and visit but, yeah, COVID. And then-

    10. JR

      Mm.

    11. DS

      ... well, you really believe that shit? Well the people around me do. And then they can put the blame on, you know, Chaley and Tracy like-

    12. JR

      (laughs)

    13. DS

      (laughs) ... yeah, they're, everyone else is worried. I'm sorry there's nothing I can do. Uh, and then I get the shot. Uh, my first one. And, uh-

    14. JR

      Did the first one bother you at all? Did it fuck with you?

    15. DS

      I'm so afraid of needles that I started drinking at 9:00 AM for a 5:00 PM shot.

    16. JR

      (laughs)

    17. DS

      So the next day when I was sweating through fucking comforters, I don't know is that hangover or flu residual?

    18. JR

      (laughs)

    19. DS

      But the, the hypocrisy is that I've always shit on Chaley and Tracy for getting flu shots. "You should get a flu shot." No, I don't, I don't, I don't like needles. Uh, well I might be killing as many old people (laughs) by not getting a f- regular flu shot, but I don't give a fuck about old people and they're not in my life.

    20. JR

      Oh.

    21. DS

      Which I think, uh, subliminally a lot of people, uh... If, if, if coronavirus was killing that many babies and children?

    22. JR

      Right.

    23. DS

      I think the same anti-maskers would be attacking you with a crowbar for not wearing a mask in public. "You're fucking risking my kid's life!"

    24. JR

      Probably.

    25. DS

      People would get fucking ape-like over their children.

    26. JR

      Yeah, people would be, they'd be very different. But, yeah.

    27. DS

      Yeah. I think that's, of fucking natural selection kind of thing is, I don't give a fuck about old people, they're taking food from the fucking family and the, and the herd. Let them die off.

    28. JR

      (laughs)

  5. 11:3812:59

    Road-trip brain: Audible binges, evolutionary psychology, and rebooting Doug’s podcast

    1. DS

      I'm a... I get a... I, I've been studying Evolutionary Psychology. Uh, I, I downloaded a book on Audible about it, 16 and a half hours, and listened to it on the way out so I should-

    2. JR

      Yeah?

    3. DS

      ... have a degree even though I didn't understand (laughs) most of what they were talking about.

    4. JR

      What's the book?

    5. DS

      Uh, The Moral Animal.

    6. JR

      Oh. Um, who is that? Who wrote that?

    7. DS

      I...... it's- it's like when you started comedy and you go, "That guy was really funny." "What was his name?" "I have no idea, I just went to comedy night and there was a guy that was really funny." I don't know.

    8. JR

      What, uh- what got you into this Moral Animal book?

    9. DS

      Well, I- I- uh- fucking-

    10. JR

      Long drive?

    11. DS

      That's why I love long drives.

    12. JR

      Yeah.

    13. DS

      Like, that's why I left three days early, 'cause I l- th- there's nothing that makes me more creative, like your sensory deprivation tanks. A fucking road trip acro- from Arizona across New Mexico and West Texas?

    14. JR

      Yeah. (clears throat)

    15. DS

      Nothing but fucking two lanes to focus on, n- nobody out there and, yeah, y- your mind spirals. That was why I- I had to practice talking.

    16. JR

      Sometimes that's great.

    17. DS

      I stopped and did one podcast, my own podcast, which I should promote, I never promote my own. I'm putting more effort into it. We're doing Patreon. Uh-

    18. JR

      Are you doing Patreon now?

    19. DS

      Yeah.

    20. JR

      Did you just get tired of doing ads?

    21. DS

      Well, I- uh- well, we gotta make money.

    22. JR

      Right.

  6. 12:5923:32

    The prison-podcast orbit: a friend who killed his mom and another who accidentally killed his wife

    1. DS

      Like, I started that podcast as a- a- a default open mic. Back- I started my podcast back when we really thought everyone has a podcast. (laughs) And since COVID, like, I have two people that I- I keep in touch with that are in, uh, one's in a mental institution for murdering his mother.

    2. JR

      Whoa.

    3. DS

      Actually in a halfway house now. Uh-

    4. JR

      They're gonna let him out?

    5. DS

      Yeah, he's got a job. He- I have this in-

    6. JR

      Killed his mom?

    7. DS

      Yes. Y- yes. I assume stabbed her to death, I never really got into the details.

    8. JR

      Whoa.

    9. DS

      But he's coming to my shows. He- he gets day passes and-

    10. JR

      Yeah?

    11. DS

      ... nice kid. And then Bobby Caldwell at-

    12. JR

      Nice- nice kid.

    13. DS

      ... Notes from the Pen-

    14. JR

      Hold up.

    15. DS

      Yeah.

    16. JR

      Let's not gloss over this. Nice kid stabbed his mom, what happened?

    17. DS

      Yeah, he's a m- mental illness.

    18. JR

      And they're gonna let him out? Did they fix it?

    19. DS

      He- he's- h- he's out.

    20. JR

      How'd he-

    21. DS

      He only went back in because of COVID and now he's back out-

    22. JR

      How long was he in for?

    23. DS

      (laughs) Not very long, I think it was 2014.

    24. JR

      How's his mom- how's his mom's family feel about this?

    25. DS

      Uh, the- the-

    26. JR

      2014? Really?

    27. DS

      Yeah, yeah, that quick.

    28. JR

      That's fucking crazy.

    29. DS

      Yeah. Well, fuckin'-

    30. JR

      You- you go in jail for eight years for-

  7. 23:3233:33

    Comedians, relationships, and the ‘punch-up’ power imbalance

    1. DS

      Eh, you've never dated a comedian.

    2. JR

      No. I did when I was 21.

    3. DS

      Where?

    4. JR

      When I was 21.

    5. DS

      I, I, I was in a relationship for a, like, a year and a half.

    6. JR

      It can get rough.

    7. DS

      And-

    8. JR

      Yeah.

    9. DS

      And they're working out bits, and you can't... Like, I can tell Twyman-

    10. JR

      Ooh.

    11. DS

      I don't get why you would even think that's a joke.

    12. JR

      Right. And he can handle it.

    13. DS

      'Cause who's he gonna kill? Me?

    14. JR

      (laughs)

    15. DS

      (laughs)

    16. JR

      If he kills another person, he's really going away.

    17. DS

      Yeah.

    18. JR

      This, this time.

    19. DS

      Yeah.

    20. JR

      For real.

    21. DS

      Yeah. Those, and none of these meds are gonna work.

    22. JR

      Yeah, the, um, the dating comedian thing, it works sometimes. Like, uh, like Tom Segura and Christina Pazitzky, it works great.

    23. DS

      Yeah.

    24. JR

      You know? Bonnie McFarlane, Rich Vos works great.

    25. DS

      Is funnier than Vos, so, uh-

    26. JR

      Yeah.

    27. DS

      ... it's, uh, you know, power dynamic.

    28. JR

      Yeah.

    29. DS

      (laughs)

    30. JR

      (laughs) Well, they're both funny. They're both-

  8. 33:331:16:11

    Road horror stories and sobriety turns: Ron White, doctors, and drinking math

    1. DS

      Like, I wanna be like uber distance but if you live out in fucking butt fuck rich part of town, they might not have Ubers. Ron White fucked us like that once. (laughs)

    2. JR

      Did he?

    3. DS

      Well, yeah, he's like, "Yeah, after the show in Atlanta," he showed up and did a guest spot. (laughs) "But you have to come to my house to party afterwards. It's, it's just right down the road. It's like fucking almost an hour away. We're gonna be on the tour bus, so we'll take all of you on the tour bus and we're coming back through this way."

    4. JR

      (sighs)

    5. DS

      "Anyway, tomorrow we'll drop you back off," and we partied through the night. Like, one of the hardest fucking hangovers I've ever lived through. With a show the next night.

    6. JR

      Ron White is sober now.

    7. DS

      Oh, uh, yeah. Tell me that but... (laughs) So, so the next morning as we're still like vaguely awake, he's like, "You guys gotta get a Uber." We're like, "I thought the tour bus is taking us back." "Change of plans."

    8. JR

      Oh, God.

    9. DS

      And then it's this gated community on a golf course and a fucking Uber takes two and a half hours-

    10. JR

      (sighs)

    11. DS

      ... so we're drinking again to fucking tamp down the hangover and then... It was, it was one of the worst shows I've ever had that night, where I said, "If I gave refunds, this would be the show. But I don't."

    12. JR

      (laughs)

    13. DS

      Uh, yeah. I heard he's, uh, do some like Ayahuasca effect thing?

    14. JR

      Yeah. He went, um... He's more than 60 days sober now. Sharp as a tack. I did, uh, the Chappelle's shows with him last week. I did Sunday and Tuesday with him last week. And I did a Vulcan Gas Company in town too. I did that with him too. He's fucking sharp as fuck, and just completely sober. He went to the doctor. Big mistake, right? You don't go to the doctor.

    15. DS

      Nope.

    16. JR

      (laughs)

    17. DS

      Nope.

    18. JR

      He went to the doctor (laughs) . The doctor gave him the old once over and go, "We gotta fucking hit the brakes on this train." Like, "This runaway train is heading right for a cliff."

    19. DS

      Did, did he tell you why he went to the doctor?

    20. JR

      Nope. I didn't ask. I feel like Ron White tells you everything he wants to tell you.

    21. DS

      Oh, I do. I... 'Cause that's my doctor, is... Who did I just talk to? Uh, I, I can... Fuck it. I'll... J- Jordan Zevon, Warren's son.

    22. JR

      Oh.

    23. DS

      Uh, who I've known peripherally through like MySpace and social media. Like, we've DMed here and there. He sent me a, like Warren Zevon's like original practice amp. Uh, fucking cool guy and I said, "Hey, I want you on the podcast." This was just a couple of weeks ago. And he's like, "Uh, I'm probably not that interesting. I'm not Jordan Springsteen," (laughs) and, uh, "But here's my number anyway 'cause I don't drink anymore." And I called him up and I go, "I'll tell you if you're interesting or not." And he told me the most interesting story. He got diagnosed with cirrhosis and then, uh, like unwrapped, like, "Well, what made you go to the doctor to begin with? What symptoms (laughs) should I be looking for that you had?" That's like Hedberg's old joke. "My girlfriend wanted me to get a AIDS test. So I call my friend and I said, 'Hey, Brian, do you know anyone with AIDS?' And he said, 'No.' And I said, 'Well, you know me.'"

    24. JR

      (laughs)

    25. DS

      But yeah, it...

    26. JR

      So, you-

    27. DS

      What should I look for? I have none of those symptoms, I think I'm good.

    28. JR

      Um, you're a, um, a moderate regular drinker. That's what I would say.

    29. DS

      Well, it's also 1:30 in the afternoon.

    30. JR

      Yeah, but I mean, you, but you drink a lot of light beer.

  9. 51:331:00:42

    The Man Show war stories and pitching new projects with leverage

    1. DS

      We had that problem with The Man Show.

    2. JR

      Yeah.

    3. DS

      Now, i- i- it's a reverse problem, is that ph- we know we're gonna take the bad beat for doing shitty bits. (laughs) The sketches like this ... Do you remember the time where (laughs) we had to do some fucking awful bit that, uh, where we were-

    4. JR

      Yeah.

    5. DS

      ... talking?

    6. JR

      I know what you're saying. Yeah. Without being-

    7. DS

      But, we forgot that we were-

    8. JR

      ... too mean to other people.

    9. DS

      Th- yeah, we, we-

    10. JR

      Yeah.

    11. DS

      ... forgot we were mic'd up and we were talking about-

    12. JR

      (laughs) (claps hands on legs)

    13. DS

      ... like this fucking bit we're about to fucking ... We forgot that the head writer was listening to the (laughs) entire thing.

    14. JR

      The problem is-

    15. DS

      I still feel bad about that.

    16. JR

      ... that's, I don't feel bad about that. You, you, you, we were forced into that situation. That was a trick. You know, I, I tell people what happened with that show. You and I got pulled aside-

    17. DS

      But that specific instant-

    18. JR

      Yeah.

    19. DS

      ... incident where a, like, if we had talked to Tom to his face and said, "This thing sucks," but he had to hear it from me smoking backstage by a fucking dumpster and (laughs) -

    20. JR

      Yeah.

    21. DS

      ... just you talking to me, we're like, "Who fucking wrote this?" Jesus gun. Good God. I can't believe I came up with that.

    22. JR

      I would never do a show like that ever again. I don't think you can ever do a show where you bring in producers that aren't comics, that don't understand your sensibility, and then you have network executives that have their opinions and they're not funny and they all wanna get their greasy little hands on the, on the recipe. And it becomes-

    23. DS

      Well, y-

    24. JR

      ... a disaster.

    25. DS

      Like, I'm, I, we're, uh, you know Olivia Grace?

    26. JR

      Yes.

    27. DS

      Fucking-

    28. JR

      Very funny.

    29. DS

      ... the best.

    30. JR

      I met her when she was like 16.

  10. 1:00:421:46:13

    Austin vs ‘Comedian Grove’: building comedy ecosystems and escaping Hollywood gravity

    1. DS

      Yeah. Oh, fuck. Let me get to Comedian Grove in a minute.

    2. JR

      Comedian Grove?

    3. DS

      Yeah. I've ref-When I left on this trip, right before I left on Sunday, my buddy, Raider, found a spot where you go, "Oh, we could make Comedian Grove, like Bohemian Grove for comics." And, uh, it was the first time that I really thought, "Oh, I could leave Bisbee and move there."

    4. JR

      Comedian Grove, meaning-

    5. DS

      Mm-hmm.

    6. JR

      ... like you have a place that comics can all move to?

    7. DS

      Y- y- yeah. Uh, w- where we could set up... It's got like, uh, uh, 17 casitas, uh, 29,000 square-

    8. JR

      What is a casita?

    9. DS

      Li- little-

    10. JR

      Little houses?

    11. DS

      Cabins, but, you know, Southwest-

    12. JR

      That's one of those things that I've read but I've never looked up, like a casita, like that kind of-

    13. DS

      Yeah, so you say... Cabin.

    14. JR

      Yeah.

    15. DS

      Like... With a main house, it's 4,000 square feet. Like a ballroom, which would be the showroom, 2,000 square feet. (coins clinking) 42 miles from a, you know, a secondary airport where you go, "Oh, yeah, we could..." D- do you remember the cave house outside of Bisbee?

    16. JR

      Mm-hmm. Yeah. I talked about buying it. Remember? I talked... I told you.

    17. DS

      Yeah, and then we said if we... It was a million dollars. And I go, "Well, if we get 10 comics to pitch in 100, 100 grand, we could have this, like a fucking comedians-"

    18. JR

      Yeah.

    19. DS

      Like you always had that idea of The, uh, League of Extraordinary Comedians.

    20. JR

      Yes. (laughs)

    21. DS

      Like a, like a Skull and Bones. This would be a place we could have a performance space, 17 different places-

    22. JR

      (coughs)

    23. DS

      ... where people could come in, like a private club free speech zone, I don't know what the fuck they...

    24. JR

      Yeah.

    25. DS

      With a showroom, a vacation destination. And I spent half of this drive turning off my fucking Audible (laughs) book-

    26. JR

      Thinking about it.

    27. DS

      ... just to fucking fantasize. I'm like-

    28. JR

      Listen, let's pause you right here. Let's join forces. Let's join forces, Doug Stanhope. Austin, Texas is calling you. That's what I'm doing here. That's my plan. My, my plan is to... I mean, I've already got Tim Dillon moved here, Fahim Ew-

    29. DS

      Fucking Dillon moved here?

    30. JR

      Dillon moved here. Tom Segura moved here.

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