The Joe Rogan ExperienceJoe Rogan Experience #1633 - Ali Macofsky
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(drumming) Joe Rogan podcast,…
- JRJoe Rogan
(drumming) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.
- NANarrator
The Joe Rogan Experience.
- JRJoe Rogan
Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music plays) And hello, Ali.
- AMAli Macofsky
Hi, Joe.
- JRJoe Rogan
What's going on, kid? How you living?
- AMAli Macofsky
Not much. I'm still-
- JRJoe Rogan
I can call you kid for five more years.
- AMAli Macofsky
Do I really get it that long?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, you get it to 30, 'cause I'm 53. I'm an old man.
- AMAli Macofsky
I think-
- JRJoe Rogan
I can call you kid, I can call you kid into your late, late 30s.
- AMAli Macofsky
Yeah, 'cause you'll always be older than me.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes, always. You'll always be a kid.
- AMAli Macofsky
I think kid should stop when I'm off my parent insurance in September.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- AMAli Macofsky
And then you'll call me an adult and I'll break my arm, and I'll be like, "Joe, can you help?"
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) I remember, um, when I was a kid I would hear... when I was a kid, when I was in my 20s I would hear men that were in their late 30s and 40s calling their significant other, their girlfriend. And I was like, "That's a 39-year-old woman. That's not a girl." What the fuck?
- AMAli Macofsky
Well, now everyone's doing the partner thing.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, that's-
- AMAli Macofsky
I used to talk shit about it, 'cause I, I would have like straight friends who were like, "This is my partner." And I'm like, "It's your boyfriend."
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- AMAli Macofsky
But now I kind of like it because girlfriend/boyfriend, it sounds so corny. I actually got booed up, Joe.
- JRJoe Rogan
You got booed up?
- AMAli Macofsky
Yeah, I'm booed up.
- JRJoe Rogan
What does that mean?
- AMAli Macofsky
I got a boyfriend.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, you got a boyfriend.
- AMAli Macofsky
I have a boyfriend.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's what booed up means?
- AMAli Macofsky
Yeah, you're booed up.
- 15:00 – 30:00
Yeah. …
- JRJoe Rogan
the true meritocracies. Because if, if you don't do well, if the people don't laugh, it stops. There's a few people that are exceptions to that rule, that have figured out a way to carve their way deep into the pores like some sort of a strange parasite.
- AMAli Macofsky
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
But for the most part, for the most part.
- AMAli Macofsky
Yeah. Everyone's coming out here.
- JRJoe Rogan
Hmm, not everyone.
- AMAli Macofsky
Some people.
- JRJoe Rogan
Some people went to Nashville.
- AMAli Macofsky
Yeah? That's a ni-
- JRJoe Rogan
You know, Theo-
- AMAli Macofsky
I've never been.
- JRJoe Rogan
... C Byrne, they went to Nashville. Nashville's great. And, you know, they got that Zanies club, which is one of the best clubs in the country. It's a great place to work out of.
- AMAli Macofsky
Yeah, there's so many places I haven't been.
- JRJoe Rogan
You've never been to Nashville?
- AMAli Macofsky
Never been to Nashville.
- JRJoe Rogan
Bitch, I gotta take you to Nashville.
- AMAli Macofsky
Take me to Nashville. When are you doing a show out there?
- JRJoe Rogan
Um, well, I had a show booked with Chappelle.
- AMAli Macofsky
Oh, how have those been?
- JRJoe Rogan
Fun. Real fun.
- AMAli Macofsky
I have so much FOMO.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, sorry about that.
- AMAli Macofsky
Watching everyone's Stories out here-
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- AMAli Macofsky
... I'm just in bed eating Hot Cheetos.
- JRJoe Rogan
Hot Cheetos are fucking surprisingly good.
- AMAli Macofsky
Oh, have you tried Takis?
- JRJoe Rogan
No.
- AMAli Macofsky
Oh, it's like... I was, like, a loyal Hot Cheetos gal. Hot Cheetos were the best, and then I tried Takis, and I was like-
- JRJoe Rogan
What is a Taki? How do you spell it?
- AMAli Macofsky
T-A-K-I-apostrophe-S.
- 30:00 – 45:00
They want your bush…
- AMAli Macofsky
you know? And, like-
- JRJoe Rogan
They want your bush trimmed.
- AMAli Macofsky
Yeah. They want it... They want it bald.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's how-
- AMAli Macofsky
They want a bald eagle.
- JRJoe Rogan
Okay.
- AMAli Macofsky
But then they have the nastiest balls, and girls are like-
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- AMAli Macofsky
... "Oh, it'd be an honor to give you a blowjob." That shit's disgusting. It's different hair than your regular hair. It's thick. Your... I didn't even know that balls changed texture in different weather. It's-
- JRJoe Rogan
What?
- AMAli Macofsky
Yeah, like... Like the-
- JRJoe Rogan
What?
- AMAli Macofsky
Like the skin.
- JRJoe Rogan
Changes texture?
- AMAli Macofsky
Kind of. It's like... It just like... It- it looks like an alien. It's so... Jamie knows what I'm talking about. Jamie's giving me a little-
- JRJoe Rogan
Jamie, do your balls change texture in different weather?
- GUGuest
Nah, not really. I don't think so.
- JRJoe Rogan
I don't see how.
- AMAli Macofsky
Jamie. Jamie, stay on my side.
- GUGuest
You ever did that guy we saw with Tom Segura's had a little different texture, but-
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, yeah. That was rough.
- GUGuest
... it's a unique situation.
- JRJoe Rogan
The guy with the giant balls? Yeah.
- AMAli Macofsky
I haven't seen this.
- JRJoe Rogan
Just some sad thing, but the guys have... Some guy had-
- AMAli Macofsky
Like elephantitis?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. He had... It's a... It's p- not common, but common enough where there's multiple examples of it, where guys have enormous, like-... beach ball-sized testicles, and they can barely get around.
- AMAli Macofsky
Ugh.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- AMAli Macofsky
It's a shame that there's no, you know, like, um, like when girls have giant tits, it's like, "Hell yes." There needs to be, like, a movement for men-
- 45:00 – 1:00:00
35. …
- JRJoe Rogan
Marine and a soldier and who had, you know, d- been to war and had realized later in his life that he had risked his life for bankers and to make industry available in certain countries and that he had been lied to. And then he wrote a book called War Is Just a Racket, and it's an amazing book because if you look at what he wrote in 19 ... I wanna say it's '37. When, when did that come out?
- GUGuest
35.
- JRJoe Rogan
35. If you look at what he wrote in 1935, it's applicable today all around the world, like, what this guy was trying to expose about the real motivations, why politicians lead s- soldiers into war. Very little of it is about your safety and your health. I mean, occasionally it is.
- AMAli Macofsky
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like World War II, which is kind of ironic 'cause World War II is right after he wrote this where it was a war, well, we actually really did need to stop Hitler. But this, this guy wrote this book and it just shows how many military actions are n- not just unnecessary, but deceptive.
- AMAli Macofsky
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And this guy realized it, like, later in his life. He's a fucking ... Wasn't he a three-star general or something like that?
- GUGuest
Mm, retired Marine, two-time Medal of Honor recipient.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. H- so he was a decorated soldier. And as he was an old man, he was like, "Jesus Christ, what have I done?"
- AMAli Macofsky
That's crazy-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- AMAli Macofsky
... to do something thinking that ...
- JRJoe Rogan
What was really crazy is that no one else did it, and that he was really, like, the first person to publish something that became, you know, a, a popular piece of work where the, the average person like myself or you who doesn't really know that much about war-
- AMAli Macofsky
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
... can read about it and go, "Holy shit. Like, this is what was really going on, that they were just making things safe for bankers, or they're clearing, you know, a way to get to national, natural resources."
- AMAli Macofsky
I think that's why there's so much, like, distrust in government and stuff now, because there's so many things that we realize later on, like, "Why was that so necessary?"
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, for sure. Well, not only that. (sighs) I mean, you're seeing it with this administration where they're, they're doing the same things that Trump was doing. They're just pretending they're not. Like-
- AMAli Macofsky
They're just wearing cute jackets.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, it's just the same fucking thing. Like, what they're doing ... Like, they're all ... The whole thing was like, the kids at the border. We gotta stop the, you know, these families at the border. These detentions at the border, putting people in cages. They're doing the same fucking thing. And then Ted Cruz went down to j- there to try to film it and they were asking him to stop filming, like, this Biden employee's like, "Stop filming. Stop filming, sir. Please sh- have some respect." He's like, this is ... Like, you can't just make rules like, that we can't film now-
- AMAli Macofsky
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... and that's how you're gonna stop people from talking about this. That nothing's changed. 'Cause they were pretending that Trump was doing this and that it was all Trump's fault. Well, no, it's ... The border is crazy and porous, and now that Trump's not in office, they think it's more friendly 'cause Biden's there, so more people are coming through. And they have ... A lot of them have Biden T-shirts on. Have you seen that?
- AMAli Macofsky
No. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Where they get detained? Yeah. Like, dozens and dozens-
- AMAli Macofsky
Like they're going to a Biden concert?
- JRJoe Rogan
... of 'em. Like, they're going to a Biden rally.
- AMAli Macofsky
Like, "We bought the merch."
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- AMAli Macofsky
"We love you."
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes, exactly.
- AMAli Macofsky
"Help us."
- 1:00:00 – 1:08:30
Yeah, but I feel…
- JRJoe Rogan
a, a young sort of like a Dragnet style heartthrob.
- AMAli Macofsky
Yeah, but I feel like-
- JRJoe Rogan
Back in the day.
- AMAli Macofsky
I feel like nowadays people would vote for Bonzo to be president, you know?
- JRJoe Rogan
Probably for fun.
- AMAli Macofsky
100%.
- JRJoe Rogan
Just let's see. Let's see how the chimp does.
- AMAli Macofsky
I think after that harambe ... Didn't people vote him for harambe the year that there was that-
- JRJoe Rogan
See how little that chimp is?
- GUGuest
Mm-hmm.
- AMAli Macofsky
... incident?
- JRJoe Rogan
That's 'cause it's a baby.
- AMAli Macofsky
Chimps are so cute. Have you ever held one?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- AMAli Macofsky
(gasps)
- JRJoe Rogan
But you have to ... The, the only way they'll work with someone like that, they have to be babies. You can't have a grown chimp. The grown chimps will just beat the shit out of you. We were on the set of News Radio and, uh, they had a baby chimp like that and it was a baby. It was like it had a diaper on and everything and the b- ... It, it climbed on me, like I was holding it and it climbed on my back and went ... Just beat me in the back and I was like, "Holy shit." Like a tiny little thing. You know, like probably 30, 40 pounds. I couldn't believe how hard it was hitting me. I was like, "Fuck."
- AMAli Macofsky
That's crazy.
- JRJoe Rogan
And they feel different. They feel like they're made out of this table. Like their muscles-
- AMAli Macofsky
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like if ... It's like you, you ... When you touch them, you go like, "Oh. I'm like a fucking water balloon compared to that." Like your body is so mushy and soft compared to a chimp.
- AMAli Macofsky
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's a real weird feeling.
- AMAli Macofsky
I like, I like chimps and stuff.
- GUGuest
There's this viral video of a chimp-
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, it's cute.
- GUGuest
... helping this guy up on a rope but-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, it's adorable.
- AMAli Macofsky
Oh.
- JRJoe Rogan
Look at this.
- AMAli Macofsky
Look at its eyes.
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