Joe Rogan Experience #1637 - Action Bronson

Action Bronson 0:00 (drum music) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

Jamie Vernon 0:04 The Joe Rogan Experience.

Narrator 0:06 Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music) Action Bronson, ladies and gentlemen.

Joe Rogan 0:15 Dude, first of all, before we even get started, congratulations. I just wanna congratulate you publicly. What you've done is amazing. It's amazing. I've been following you on Instagram. It's super inspiring, man. I mean, it touches me, man. It really does. I love when someone gets a, a, a positive path going in their life and sticks with it, and you see real progress, and you're so dedicated, man. It's really inspiring. It's beautiful.

Action Bronson 0:38 Thank you, man. Listen, it was a long time coming. It's, it's just... I'm, I'm happy that it happened now, 'cause if it, if it didn't happen, it would've been something else. I would've been in a grave.

Joe Rogan 0:48 Yeah.

Action Bronson 0:48 Or somewhere else. Who the hell knows where they would've put me?

Joe Rogan 0:51 When did you start?

Action Bronson 0:53 I've been, I've been fat my whole life. I've been thinking about losing weight for a long time, for probably about 30 years.

Joe Rogan 0:59 But when did you start losing weight? When-

Action Bronson 1:00 Last March.

Joe Rogan 1:01 Last March?

Action Bronson 1:02 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:02 So right around the pandemic, right as it hit.

Action Bronson 1:03 Literally. Right when it hit. My brand new baby and my wife, they were gonna go to Colombia to show the child. You know, you have to show the child to the family. And it was around March 10th. We get to the airport, some sh-... They, they wouldn't let my dog get on the plane, 'cause they didn't have the... The air conditioning didn't work in the, in the galley or whatever that is. So we turned right back around and went home. And that's the day shit hit the fan. I was supposed to go on tour a week right after that. Everything done. I knew it was all gonna be done. I was talking to my agent. He was like, "Yeah, this shit's gonna be fine. Don't worry. They're gonna still do the show in Hawaii." I was like, "Nah, watch. This shit's gonna be fucking done." So bottom line is-

Joe Rogan 1:48 Why, why did you think everything was gonna get shut down?

Action Bronson 1:49 I don't know. I had a feeling. I just had a-

Joe Rogan 1:51 Intuition.

Action Bronson 1:52 I had a feeling that this was just bigger than what it was.

Joe Rogan 1:55 Hm.

Action Bronson 1:55 You know, than just... It, it just seemed fishy. Just seemed fishy.

Joe Rogan 1:59 Yeah.

Action Bronson 2:01 So, pretty much, I mean, to get the dog onto the plane we had to put her on the scale, 'cause she was a little overweight.

Joe Rogan 2:07 What's overweight, for a dog?

Action Bronson 2:08 I'm not really sure. I think she looks great.

Joe Rogan 2:11 What is overweight for a dog though? How do they decide that? Like, I used to have a dog that was 140 pounds.

Action Bronson 2:15 Listen-

Joe Rogan 2:15 Was he overweight?

Action Bronson 2:17 I don't think so. Just jacked.

Joe Rogan 2:19 (laughs)

Action Bronson 2:19 This is n-... (laughs) That's all I think. If you're at a certain weight, you're just jack... This dog is an English setter. Supposed to have a little waist. And listen, she lost it a little bit. She lost herself. She's living in Brooklyn now, you know. She's not back where she's from.

Joe Rogan 2:33 Exercising.

Action Bronson 2:33 That's different.

Joe Rogan 2:34 Yeah.

Action Bronson 2:35 She's eating different foods.

Joe Rogan 2:36 Right.

Action Bronson 2:36 Her metabolism changed.

Joe Rogan 2:38 Right.

Action Bronson 2:38 So I don't blame her. So...

Joe Rogan 2:40 (laughs)

Action Bronson 2:41 'Cause I've, I dealt with it.

Joe Rogan 2:42 You fed her.

Action Bronson 2:43 I feel her. And then I started losing weight 'cause of her, because we both got on the scale, and I was like, "What the fuck is going on?"

Joe Rogan 2:51 What was the highest?

Action Bronson 2:53 380 something.

Joe Rogan 2:54 Holy shit.

Action Bronson 2:56 Yeah. It was despicable. I didn't look it though.

Joe Rogan 2:59 Holy shit.

Action Bronson 2:59 I looked about 350.

Joe Rogan 3:03 (laughs)

Action Bronson 3:04 (laughs) A fucking round ball of fucking meat, a meatball.

Joe Rogan 3:08 Yeah.

Action Bronson 3:08 I was a fucking meatball.

Joe Rogan 3:09 Well, what was your health like? Like what did you, what did it feel like walking around like that? 'Cause that's... This is the thing, man. Um, people love to talk about like fat shaming.

Action Bronson 3:18 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 3:18 And I know it's not good to make people feel bad. But-

Action Bronson 3:20 You have to.

Joe Rogan 3:21 But that-

Action Bronson 3:22 You have to shame me. I was shamed into this, for sure.

Joe Rogan 3:25 Yeah. It's unfortunate that you have to make people feel bad to start getting them to change. But sometimes, whether it's a person doing that to you or you just looking in the mirror and you're feeling bad, that f- that feeling is just reality.

Action Bronson 3:38 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 3:38 That's what that feeling is. Like, you can't fat shame a skinny... You can't fat shame Jamie.

Action Bronson 3:43 No.

Joe Rogan 3:43 He's not fat, right? So if you said, "Hey, Jamie, you're fat." Like, it doesn't work.

Action Bronson 3:48 Doesn't mean anything. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 3:48 It only means something when it's real, and it's an indulgence thing. It's not... It's, it's not a thing that you can't control. It's a hard thing to control. It's a hard thing to bounce back from, and that's what I'm most impressed with you. You've, you really bounced back. You've lost 130 fucking pounds, man. And we, we had a good workout today. We went over to the Onnit Gym.

Action Bronson 4:09 Yep.

Joe Rogan 4:09 Shout out to my man Jon Wolf.

Action Bronson 4:11 Yes, Jon.

Joe Rogan 4:11 Jon Wolf's the master.

Action Bronson 4:12 I love him.

Joe Rogan 4:12 How good is he?

Action Bronson 4:13 I mean, I, I've watched him, and now that I met, I met him, it's like I... All the pieces came together today for me.

Joe Rogan 4:19 He's one of the most knowledgeable trainers I've ever worked with in my life. He's amazing. He... And it's not just like meathead stuff. It's all about mobility and flexibility and-

Action Bronson 4:27 Yeah. It was no- nothing meathead.

Joe Rogan 4:28 Yeah, nothing, yeah.

Action Bronson 4:29 I mean, he can obviously lift a lot of weight.

Joe Rogan 4:31 Yeah.

Action Bronson 4:31 He showed us he could do the 106 overhead press with no- like nothing.

Joe Rogan 4:35 Yeah.

Action Bronson 4:36 But it ain't about that. It's about being able to... It's fluidity. It's about to be a... It's about using your body and using your muscles in a functional manner.

Joe Rogan 4:43 Yeah.

Action Bronson 4:43 Not just... (grunting)

Joe Rogan 4:45 He's, he's all about longevity-

Action Bronson 4:47 Yes.

Joe Rogan 4:47 ... and he's all about range of motion. His whole thing is about having you have like the full mobility of your body. It's all fl- these flexibility things that we did, the hip things that we did, all that stuff. And it's all to strengthen the joints, stabilize your shoulders, stabilize all your joints, and... He's, he's just so good, so amazing.

Action Bronson 5:04 Bro, the pre-workout that we did.

Joe Rogan 5:06 Yeah.

Action Bronson 5:06 I mean, I was soaked. I was soaked-

Joe Rogan 5:08 Great.

Action Bronson 5:08 ... before we started.

Joe Rogan 5:09 It was great.

Action Bronson 5:10 It was unbelievable.

Joe Rogan 5:10 You're very strong though, man.

Action Bronson 5:12 I appreciate that.

Joe Rogan 5:12 You're really strong. It was, it was interesting to watch you do it. Like I can see like over this past year, you know, you've gotten your body to a, a really good place where, you know, you haven't just lost weight by dieting. You've been lifting weights. You've been exercising and pushing sleds. And I, I watch your Instagram, man.

Action Bronson 5:29 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 5:29 You're doing some wild shit.

Action Bronson 5:30 For sure. I mean, I... These are the things that I always wanted to do. I always knew I could do this. I played football in high school, and I actually... I excelled in practice. Like I liked doing that shit. I liked drills. I like having an aim. The game, yeah, it's fun, but I like the practice stuff.

Joe Rogan 5:48 Right.

Action Bronson 5:48 You know what I mean?

Joe Rogan 5:49 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Action Bronson 5:50 And I started losing weight by myself in my house, literally during the pandemic, just eating different. My wife, she was shaming me-

Joe Rogan 5:59 (laughs)

Action Bronson 5:59 ... because... But yeah, she was, because we have a brand new child. She's like, "What are you... The fuck are you doing? You don't wanna be around here for our baby? Like you-"

Joe Rogan 6:05 Right.

Action Bronson 6:05 "You wanna take yourself away from us?"

Joe Rogan 6:07 Right.

Action Bronson 6:08 And that shit hit.

Joe Rogan 6:09 That's real.

Action Bronson 6:09 It, it hit hard. It hit hard.

Joe Rogan 6:10 That's a real thing.

Action Bronson 6:11 And not only that, like, I love life. There's no doubt about it. I've, I've been going so fast for the past 10 years that I haven't really enjoyed myself, so this force, this forced stoppage allowed me to really reassess my happiness, and I've regained everything, you know? It's not just fucking work, work, work, next thing, next thing, next thing. Of course, I'm an artist and my mind is always all over the place. I'm always thinking about something, you know? But this slowed me down. It allowed me to spend every moment with my brand new child, you know?

Joe Rogan 6:45 Yeah.

Action Bronson 6:45 My- It's, it's fucking- it, it was something that I didn't know I needed, but I needed that.

Joe Rogan 6:49 Yeah.

Action Bronson 6:50 I needed it, and, and to regain my health, like, in this- in this manner, man, it's like you said, I wasn't- I don't wanna just lose weight. M- People could get the surgeries and all that shit. That ain't for me. I'm a worker.

Joe Rogan 7:06 The problem with the surgery-

Action Bronson 7:07 I like hard work.

Joe Rogan 7:08 ... the surgery can help people, but it also- it messes you up. And here- one of the things that happens is-

Action Bronson 7:13 I've seen it.

Joe Rogan 7:13 ... it diminishes your ability to absorb food. You can't have as much food, and it's harder for you to absorb nutrients.

Action Bronson 7:19 I would never do that.

Joe Rogan 7:20 Yeah.

Action Bronson 7:20 That was just never in my cards. That was never for me.

Joe Rogan 7:23 Good for you.

Action Bronson 7:23 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 7:24 Good for you.

Action Bronson 7:24 Hell no. Th- because I knew I did this to myself.

Joe Rogan 7:27 Yeah.

Action Bronson 7:28 I have to fix it.

Joe Rogan 7:29 Yeah.

Action Bronson 7:29 And I'm dedicated, you know? Like, I was talking to my boy, like me and CC Sabathia were friends, and I was talking to him for a while. We would just text back and forth because he was a fat bastard too, and he changed his shit up. And we would just talk about how we wanna be fucking jacked. We just wanna be bu- we wanna get, you know, strong and shit. And he put me on to my trainer that I was working with, Dave Palladino, and Dave is kinda- you know, he's like an old school meathead from the Jersey Shore, and I fucking love that.

Joe Rogan 7:58 (laughs)

Action Bronson 7:58 So, we clicked. Yeah. Because I could have met somebody else and it wouldn't have clicked.

Joe Rogan 8:02 Right.

Action Bronson 8:02 You know, like, I've worked out with other people, but it just wasn't- I almost don't wanna let him down, you know?

Joe Rogan 8:07 Right.

Action Bronson 8:07 Like he's a fuck- like he's in The Sopranos or some shit.

Joe Rogan 8:10 (laughs)

Action Bronson 8:10 I swear. It's- maybe it's in my mind, but I have to- but it works that way.

Joe Rogan 8:14 Right. I know what you mean.

Action Bronson 8:15 And he's- yeah, he was showing me all k- he's like fucking Joey Diaz-

Joe Rogan 8:18 Yeah.

Action Bronson 8:18 ... but jacked.

Joe Rogan 8:19 (laughs)

Action Bronson 8:20 I swear, that's who he is. That's what I was thinking about. I know- I was like, "Yo, that's who this fucking guy is." (laughs) Exactly him. He has the stories of the Shore, he used to bounce all the clubs with the fucking fanny pack and the fucking- I don't wanna mention what else, but, you know. Listen, it- he, he put me on to different types of training. He didn't just start me off with meathead stuff. We did the sleds. We did the torturous shit, the skier, the fucking- all that, the stepper.

Joe Rogan 8:48 Mm-hmm. Yes.

Action Bronson 8:48 Oh my God, the fucking- that shit is torture, but I love it.

Joe Rogan 8:52 That's awesome, man.

Action Bronson 8:53 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 8:53 It's so beautiful. I'm- I- one- it's one of the things that makes me most happy in life. I love people succeeding. I really do. It makes me so happy. I don't know why. You know, I think when I was a kid, uh, when I was real young, when I was- I started teaching TaeKwonDo when I was probably like 16, 16-ish, somewhere around there when I started teaching, and I really got into it because it, it helped me get better. But I, I also had a few students that went from white belt and they graduated and got higher belts, and I took them to tournaments and I had them win tournaments. And my God, it made me so happy, like more-

Action Bronson 9:27 That feeling is unbelievable.

Joe Rogan 9:28 ... more happy than myself because with myself it would make- I would have conflicted feelings. Like, hurting people is a weird thing, like it ma- it gives you conflicted feelings, like you're happy, but you also feel real weird because that could have been you and you see this dude writhing in agony. It's- it's very strange. But when someone else that you train goes and succeeds, it feels good. It feels really good. When you watch them improve. So like I- I- maybe that was- that's where the seed got planted, but I fucking love when people succeed. I love it. It makes me so happy, man.

Action Bronson 9:59 It's- it- because you're that type of guy, you know, you're not a fucking hater. There's haters out there that don't want to see anyone succeed. They just want all the success for themselves.

Joe Rogan 10:08 No, I'm the opposite of a hater.

Action Bronson 10:09 Exactly.

Joe Rogan 10:10 I'm a lover.

Action Bronson 10:10 Yeah, me too.

Joe Rogan 10:11 I seem like a hater sometimes because I say hater shit, but I just do it because it's funny.

Action Bronson 10:15 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 10:15 I'm like my- my- my- my soul-

Action Bronson 10:16 You're amusing yourself.

Joe Rogan 10:17 Yes.

Action Bronson 10:17 And every- come on.

Joe Rogan 10:17 My soul is a positive. I'm- I'm very much a- a person who wants to see people do well. I mean, it means a lot to me. It really does. When I see someone like you that I know how hard it is to lose 130 pounds. I mean, I've never had to, but I could only imagine. It's fucking hard. It's fucking hard and it's a long road. It's not an easy road. It's not like just hold your breath for an hour. No, it's- it's fucking- it's a long road. It's a grind and it's hard to see success because it comes in these little tiny little steps. You get these little tiny increments, but I've watched those tiny increments of yours on Instagram. I've watched it and I'm- and I was like, "Look at him go, look at him go."

Action Bronson 10:56 Yeah, right?

Joe Rogan 10:56 And then I saw you shrink and I'm like, "Look at him go." And I'm- and y- it's every fucking day, man. You know, one of my favorite videos of yours, you had this crazy workout and then you cook steaks at the park.

Action Bronson 11:06 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 11:06 I loved it.

Action Bronson 11:07 That's my favorite shit. That- that's how I-

Joe Rogan 11:09 Reward yourself.

Action Bronson 11:09 That's my life.

Joe Rogan 11:10 Yes.

Action Bronson 11:10 You know, I bring- I always have the barbecue in the trunk of the Cherokee.

Joe Rogan 11:14 (laughs)

Action Bronson 11:14 Always. The Jeep Grand Cherokee is my car.

Joe Rogan 11:17 Yes.

Action Bronson 11:17 I've been driving that fucking thing forever. I love that car. You got the Yeti thing in the back.

Joe Rogan 11:21 Mm-hmm.

Action Bronson 11:22 Pack all the stuff that I need. I got the Japanese hardwood charcoal.

Joe Rogan 11:26 Yes.

Action Bronson 11:27 I got my torch to light it.

Joe Rogan 11:28 Yes.

Action Bronson 11:29 And I got my- my little Weber grill. I'm good to go.

Joe Rogan 11:31 Yeah.

Action Bronson 11:32 You know, and I just- right after the workout in the parking lot or wherever I just pull up, in the park-

Joe Rogan 11:37 Yeah.

Action Bronson 11:37 ... 'cause I don't just do one workout. I got to do a couple. I- I- I just have this energy now that it's not just- it's not enough to just do an hour of some training. I need to go out and do more things during the day, you know, I have to go on the roof and swing the Bulgarian bag.

Joe Rogan 11:51 Mm-hmm.

Action Bronson 11:52 I have to, you know, play paddle ball. I have to hit the park, do calisthenics and stuff like that.

Joe Rogan 11:57 There you go. (laughs)

Action Bronson 11:59 Look at me.

Joe Rogan 12:00 You just staying active, always moving.

Action Bronson 12:02 Yeah, man. Well-

Joe Rogan 12:03 And what do you- what do you have the steak covered in? What is that- what's on the outside of that?

Action Bronson 12:06 I covered the top in garlic with like a ni- it's just a nice pulverized garlic and some sea salt. And I just let them cook slowly while I played.... every al- every so often I would go. That's my boy, Pierre. We've been playing handball for fucking 25 years.

Joe Rogan 12:21 Pierre's got a strong mustache game.

Action Bronson 12:23 He really does.

Joe Rogan 12:24 (laughs)

Action Bronson 12:24 He really does.

Joe Rogan 12:25 I love it. Now when you, uh ... Is that your dog?

Action Bronson 12:28 No, that's not mine. That's his.

Joe Rogan 12:30 Oh, so when you cook these steaks, like are you cooking by feel? Like how do you know when these are done?

Action Bronson 12:35 Yeah, for f- cooking is all feel. All this stuff is feel. Once I came off the court and I saw that they were crusted perfectly, I just kept turning the grill every once in a while. Oof.

Joe Rogan 12:47 That's a fat steak too. Look at that.

Action Bronson 12:49 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 12:49 Oh my goodness.

Action Bronson 12:50 Those are my favorite. Look at that.

Joe Rogan 12:52 Oh, look at that.

Action Bronson 12:53 Look at how perfectly that's cooked.

Joe Rogan 12:54 Oh, that's amazing.

Action Bronson 12:55 And that's my favorite steak right there. I love ho- ... Oh.

Joe Rogan 12:58 Oh, a little olive oil. Whoo!

Action Bronson 12:58 And you douse it with extra vir- extra virgin olive oil, of course.

Joe Rogan 13:01 Look at the salt. Oh.

Action Bronson 13:03 I, you know, I hate to say sh- uh, plug things, but that's my olive oil right there.

Joe Rogan 13:07 Plug?

Action Bronson 13:07 I do olive oil collaborations.

Joe Rogan 13:09 Plug the shit outta your olive oil.

Action Bronson 13:10 And listen-

Joe Rogan 13:10 Where do, where does one get it?

Action Bronson 13:12 ... y- y- there's gonna be one coming out soon-

Joe Rogan 13:13 Is it called-

Action Bronson 13:14 ... from Tuscany.

Joe Rogan 13:15 ... Fuck, That's Delicious Olive Oil?

Action Bronson 13:16 No, it's just a collaboration with Grove & Vine-

Joe Rogan 13:19 (laughs)

Action Bronson 13:19 ... times Action Bronson. Uh, fuck isn't really like a ... You can't really fucking-

Joe Rogan 13:24 Sell it?

Action Bronson 13:24 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 13:25 Really?

Action Bronson 13:25 You can't sell fuck.

Joe Rogan 13:27 Would you, could you put like an asterisk over the U?

Action Bronson 13:29 You can, but it still doesn't really work like that.

Joe Rogan 13:32 No?

Action Bronson 13:32 You s- it's just, it's fuck.

Joe Rogan 13:34 Yeah. Isn't that weird?

Action Bronson 13:36 I think it's ridiculous.

Joe Rogan 13:37 We're all adults here. Can't we say "fuck, that's delicious" on a-

Action Bronson 13:39 And people love that.

Joe Rogan 13:40 ... bottle of olive oil? Yeah.

Action Bronson 13:41 People love it.

Joe Rogan 13:42 Yeah.

Action Bronson 13:42 I want it to be on everything.

Joe Rogan 13:44 Yeah.

Action Bronson 13:44 Underwear.

Joe Rogan 13:45 Well, it's ... (laughs)

Action Bronson 13:47 (laughs) I used to wear Big Dawg underwear. Remember Big Dawgs?

Joe Rogan 13:50 Oh, yeah. Joey Diaz used to wear that shit.

Action Bronson 13:52 Yeah, exactly. Fucking, with Big Dawgs.

Joe Rogan 13:53 Yeah, yeah.

Action Bronson 13:53 I would fucking put "fuck, that's delicious" right on the, the crotch-

Joe Rogan 13:56 (laughs)

Action Bronson 13:57 ... of any type of underwear there is. And we have a winner.

Joe Rogan 14:00 Well, the beautiful thing about you doing "fuck, that's delicious" while you're on this fitness journey is you're showing people it can be both.

Action Bronson 14:07 100%.

Joe Rogan 14:08 You can eat well. You can eat well, and you can, you can have a great fucking time and get fit and you feel better. Like life feels better.

Action Bronson 14:15 One million percent.

Joe Rogan 14:16 Like I have never been really obese, but doesn't life feel better when you're healthy now?

Action Bronson 14:21 My bro, it's, it's ... You n- it's a million times ... I had fucking issues that I would be embarrassed to say right now. It's, you know those things where you ... There's like little nuances of life that just ... What the fuck?

Joe Rogan 14:33 Right.

Action Bronson 14:33 How did I get to this point?

Joe Rogan 14:34 Right.

Action Bronson 14:35 It's not good.

Joe Rogan 14:36 Yeah.

Action Bronson 14:36 Everything is fucking working 1,000%. Like I never had an issue with my dick, but now it's fucking unbelievable.

Joe Rogan 14:47 (sings)

Action Bronson 14:47 Yeah, it's like it's unbelievable, that ... Fucking, it's like Jaws.

Joe Rogan 14:51 (laughs)

Action Bronson 14:51 When you, when I'm coming towards my wife it's like duh-nuh-nuh, she's fucking running away from me.

Joe Rogan 14:56 Well, you, all that exercise, and then you're doing so much weight training, it's gotta jack up your testosterone.

Action Bronson 15:01 Yeah, for sure.

Joe Rogan 15:01 And w- watching what you did today, the only way you were able to do that workout today is if you've been doing that for a long time. Like we, we did a difficult workout.

Action Bronson 15:09 For sure.

Joe Rogan 15:10 E- especially that shoulder plex complex with the rows and the squats and the, the cleans and all that stuff that John had us doing. That's, that was real work.

Action Bronson 15:20 For sure. And, you know, the dude Andrew from Onnit, he-

Joe Rogan 15:24 Shout out to Andrew Craig.

Action Bronson 15:25 Yeah. I w- Yeah, he was ... Andrew Craig was at a book signing of mine couple years ago, and he saw me working out and shit like that, and he just sent me the maces. He sent me a bunch of stuff. That dude fucking got me literally Onnit.

Joe Rogan 15:39 Yeah.

Action Bronson 15:39 Literally, with the clubs, the bulgari. And that's really all I use. My studio is filled with that shit. I go to the gym for the things I can't do, like chest work and other stuff like that, you know? But I do a lot of kettlebells and a lot of swinging of the mace and Indian clubs at the studio and o- on the roof of the studio.

Joe Rogan 15:57 That's awesome, man.

Action Bronson 15:58 Yeah. That's my favorite stuff to do.

Joe Rogan 16:00 Mm-hmm.

Action Bronson 16:00 The mobility stuff.

Joe Rogan 16:01 Right.

Action Bronson 16:02 I love feeling static strong, you know, like squats and fucking deadlifts and all that stuff, but this is equally as, as satis- satisfactory.

Joe Rogan 16:11 Yeah. I love kettlebells because of that, because you're moving. You're doing a lot of things. I love like kettlebell flows-

Action Bronson 16:18 It looks cool.

Joe Rogan 16:18 ... you know, clean, press-

Action Bronson 16:20 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 16:20 ... lunge, squat, all that stuff. Yeah, it's fun.

Action Bronson 16:23 That shit looks cool.

Joe Rogan 16:23 Yeah, it does look cool.

Action Bronson 16:24 It does.

Joe Rogan 16:24 Yeah. That dude who was doing the maces, what was that dude's name?

Action Bronson 16:27 I'm not sure.

Joe Rogan 16:27 The mace guy. Hold on a second, let me find out real quick. That dude who was doing the maces at the, uh, the gym was a beast, man. That-

Action Bronson 16:33 He was killing it.

Joe Rogan 16:33 Yeah.

Action Bronson 16:34 Yeah, I mean, when, when you can flow with those things, it's like dancing. It's like salsa.

Joe Rogan 16:40 Um, I don't know. I don't have it written. Shit. He's very good though.

Action Bronson 16:44 Shout out to him, though.

Joe Rogan 16:45 Whoever that dude is, he was a beast.

Action Bronson 16:46 The guy with the mace flow.

Joe Rogan 16:48 Yeah, yeah. Jon Wolf is a beast with that shit too. He's-

Action Bronson 16:51 I mean-

Joe Rogan 16:51 With the clubs and the, the maces and all that stuff.

Action Bronson 16:53 He shocked me.

Joe Rogan 16:54 Yeah.

Action Bronson 16:54 I, I like Jon Wolf a lot.

Joe Rogan 16:56 Well, it's that ... What he's doing, the great thing about it is, it's applicable. Like the strength that you get from that is really good for martial arts. It's really good for jujitsu in particular because it's ... You're forcing to use your body all as one unit, you know? All, all this stuff. And it also, with like ... It increases your longevity 'cause it ... You're, you're stabilizing joints and you're m- you're m- you're getting range of motion strength and all kinds of cool shit you can do with that, that kind of strength.

Action Bronson 17:23 Yeah. Uh, that's why this ... It drew me. All these new apparatus drew me 'cause I can't fucking do traditional things 'cause of my little impingement in my shoulder. But all these th- all these different flow moves-

Joe Rogan 17:36 Mm-hmm.

Action Bronson 17:36 ... and the swing, I just love it.

Joe Rogan 17:37 Well, your shoulder mobility is, you know ... There's a little bit of an impingement, but it's pretty good. Like I saw you were pressing 65 pounds with that left arm.

Action Bronson 17:46 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 17:46 You just need to get something done to that. Go, go get f- find out what the fuck's going on with it and, like I was telling you-

Action Bronson 17:52 Should I find out before or just go for it and then see?

Joe Rogan 17:55 You should have an MRI.

Action Bronson 17:56 Yeah?

Joe Rogan 17:56 Yeah, it sucks. You're gonna find out what's wrong. There's probably a bunch of shit going on in there. But from a guy who had a full-length rotator cuff tear and it was healed completely by stem cells ... And what we can do here in America is nothing compared to what they can do in Colombia and what they can do in Panama. Like Dr. Neil Riordan, who's been on the podcast before, he runs a c- a clinic down in Panama.

Action Bronson 18:17 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 18:17 I sent my mom down there twice and it did wonders for her. And I've had some other friends, uh, a lot of fighters I know have gone down there, and a lot of fighters are going to that bioXcellerator place-

Action Bronson 18:26 Yep.

Joe Rogan 18:26 ... that you talk to them.

Action Bronson 18:27 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 18:27 And ... See, the thing is about America-There's good and bad, right? Is ... The regulation's good because it keeps people from robbing people and ripping people off, right? It keeps people from doing things that aren't completely safe. But, it also keeps people from doing things that they know are effective, and people have had massive results over in Colombia and in Panama because they, they have an accelerated program. I think, I think there's one in Tijuana too. I think they're doing it in Tijuana now too. A lot of guys are going down from San Diego and just driving over there and getting it done there too.

Action Bronson 19:01 The thing is with TJ, bro, he's fucking ... Lots of crazy shit going on in TJ.

Joe Rogan 19:04 Yeah, but it's my friend, Ed Clay, who's an American-

Action Bronson 19:06 Okay.

Joe Rogan 19:06 ... who's running, running it down.

Action Bronson 19:08 I know my boy got a fucking- (laughs)

Joe Rogan 19:10 (laughs)

Action Bronson 19:10 What happened? (laughs)

Joe Rogan 19:11 (laughs)

Action Bronson 19:11 He got an Achilles tendon surgery in fucking Tijuana and he can't w- he's fucked up right now.

Joe Rogan 19:17 He can't walk?

Action Bronson 19:18 He's ... They did a ... They botched them.

Joe Rogan 19:20 Oh, no.

Action Bronson 19:20 They botched the Achilles.

Joe Rogan 19:21 Oh, no.

Action Bronson 19:22 So I don't, I don't ... I mean, I just ... I've seen horrible things go down in TJ before. I c- I couldn't imagine putting fucking some sort of health into me there.

Joe Rogan 19:33 Yeah. I would go there for-

Action Bronson 19:34 You go there for sin.

Joe Rogan 19:35 I'd go there for braces.

Action Bronson 19:37 True.

Joe Rogan 19:38 Something like ... (laughs)

Action Bronson 19:38 They do good teeth. They do, they do. It's true.

Joe Rogan 19:42 I think it depends on who you're going to, you know? The thing is, it's just-

Action Bronson 19:45 It's, it's always that.

Joe Rogan 19:46 Tijuana's a sketchy place right now, you know? Anything on the border is just ... It's great and it's terrible at the same time. There's a lot going on.

Action Bronson 19:55 There's a lo- I- i- it's heavy.

Joe Rogan 19:56 Are you vaping now?

Action Bronson 19:58 (coughs)

Joe Rogan 19:58 No smoking weed?

Action Bronson 20:01 (coughs) It's just that I have this vape.

Joe Rogan 20:02 Right.

Action Bronson 20:03 I didn't wanna bring the big glass contraptions on here, fucking torch up. This is just for on the go.

Joe Rogan 20:10 Are you vaporizing now and not smoking blunts anymore?

Action Bronson 20:12 Yeah. I only vaporize hash.

Joe Rogan 20:13 Oh.

Action Bronson 20:14 The purest hash around, I'm vaporizing it all over.

Joe Rogan 20:16 The last time you were here, you smoked a preposterous-

Action Bronson 20:19 A lot. (coughs)

Joe Rogan 20:19 ... amount of weed, because I took pictures of the ashtray and put it on Instagram.

Action Bronson 20:23 Yeah. (laughs) Oh my God.

Joe Rogan 20:23 And people were like, "That was just him?" That was just him.

Action Bronson 20:26 Yeah, man.

Joe Rogan 20:26 Like, I didn't, I didn't keep up with you.

Action Bronson 20:28 I was an animal. I was an animal.

Joe Rogan 20:29 (laughs)

Action Bronson 20:29 But the thing is, I'm animalistic with hash.

Joe Rogan 20:32 Oh, yeah?

Action Bronson 20:32 Ha- I mean, when you look at a High Times Magazine and you see all those little, you know, the little furry molecules.

Joe Rogan 20:39 Mm.

Action Bronson 20:39 That's what I'm smoking.

Joe Rogan 20:41 Mm.

Action Bronson 20:41 I'm not smoking the rest of the actual green.

Joe Rogan 20:45 Mm. Right.

Action Bronson 20:45 We're just smoking the furry molecules.

Joe Rogan 20:47 The ... Just the THC crystals.

Action Bronson 20:49 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 20:49 Yeah.

Action Bronson 20:49 Just the ... those globules, those oil glands.

Joe Rogan 20:52 You know how they have those, uh, s- those boxes that kind of sift? They have those-

Action Bronson 20:55 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 20:55 ... little nets in it. And dudes would put the weed in, and then the bottom of it, you'd get the shake, and it was just pure THC.

Action Bronson 21:02 That kief.

Joe Rogan 21:02 Yes.

Action Bronson 21:02 Old school.

Joe Rogan 21:03 Oh my God, and you put that shit in the pipe and go straight to the moon-

Action Bronson 21:06 Oh my God.

Joe Rogan 21:06 ... like this, like a rubber band. Zoom. Boom.

Action Bronson 21:08 That was my ... (laughs) My boy had a jar of kief back in the day, and we were just doing, like, key bumps.

Joe Rogan 21:14 (laughs)

Action Bronson 21:14 Of just fucking smoking it off the key.

Joe Rogan 21:16 Wow.

Action Bronson 21:17 My Lord. But hash is on a whole nother level.

Joe Rogan 21:22 Mm.

Action Bronson 21:22 You know, like, when you take a dab of some really, really, really good hash, it's next level.

Joe Rogan 21:28 It is next level.

Action Bronson 21:29 It's so much, it's, it ... Like, I love it so much. I love the, the whole idea of having the really nice glass pipe, your torch. It's very personal. It's very, uh-

Joe Rogan 21:41 Do you-

Action Bronson 21:41 What's the word I'm looking for?

Joe Rogan 21:43 Intimate?

Action Bronson 21:44 Yeah. It's not only intimate, but it's ... that other word. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 21:50 (laughs) What's the other word? What's the other word?

Action Bronson 21:53 Uh, ritualistic.

Joe Rogan 21:54 Ah, ritualistic.

Action Bronson 21:55 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 21:55 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, there's power in rituals, right?

Action Bronson 21:57 For sure.

Joe Rogan 21:58 Yeah.

Action Bronson 21:58 Are you kidding me?

Joe Rogan 21:59 Yeah. There's something about, like, doing something with purpose and intent, like, a, a ... Something that, like, seems kind of sacred.

Action Bronson 22:06 Something so small as to something I remember right now, a little ritual. Every time I walked in the building of my mother's house in Queens, I had to drag my foot across, you know, like, the fucking ... that little piece-

Joe Rogan 22:19 The archway?

Action Bronson 22:20 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 22:20 Yeah.

Action Bronson 22:20 The little piece that they put on the bottom of the door.

Joe Rogan 22:22 Yeah.

Action Bronson 22:22 I always had to drag my foot on it. I don't know why.

Joe Rogan 22:25 Like a OCD thing?

Action Bronson 22:26 Every time.

Joe Rogan 22:26 Some people have weird things where they have to, like, touch their head a couple times when they walk through a door.

Action Bronson 22:31 Yeah, I don't have anything else like that. It's just that one thing.

Joe Rogan 22:34 That's good, though. That's-

Action Bronson 22:35 I think.

Joe Rogan 22:35 If you have one-

Action Bronson 22:37 One is all right.

Joe Rogan 22:37 ... just ... Yeah, it's fine.

Action Bronson 22:38 Not another one. If another one comes, then I'm fucked.

Joe Rogan 22:40 I remember reading about people that, uh, they would wash their hands, and then they'd get it in their head and they'd have to go wash their hands again, and then they, and they'd go back.

Action Bronson 22:48 Friend of mine.

Joe Rogan 22:48 It's weird.

Action Bronson 22:49 He fucking rubbed the skin off his hands.

Joe Rogan 22:50 Oh-ho-ho-ho-ho.

Action Bronson 22:51 He had to wear gloves for weeks.

Joe Rogan 22:54 Oh. A friend of mine looked at a house once, and, uh, they were looking at the house like, "Oh, this is a nice house, pretty nice house." And then they opened up one of the cabinets, one of the, one of the, uh, closets, and it was filled with Purell.

Action Bronson 23:07 Oh my fucking God.

Joe Rogan 23:08 Filled. I mean, like, every shelf was Purell, and they were like, "What the fuck?" And they're like, "Yeah, the guy who lives here is, uh, very OCD. He cleans his hands o-" And they're like, "We ain't buying this house."

Action Bronson 23:18 Nah.

Joe Rogan 23:19 They're like, "This place, this house has got weird vibes."

Action Bronson 23:22 I don't like bad vibes.

Joe Rogan 23:23 Spirits.

Action Bronson 23:23 Yeah, I don- I mean, I'm, I'm into spirits, but not bad vibes.

Joe Rogan 23:27 Yeah, I think-

Action Bronson 23:27 Because you can't control the spirits. They're just around.

Joe Rogan 23:30 I think if you have those kind of vibes in a place, you gotta ... I, I don't know if you can really ... They say sage, you burn sage and you have, like, a ritual, and you get rid of it.

Action Bronson 23:39 Bullshit.

Joe Rogan 23:40 (laughs)

Action Bronson 23:41 It's bullshit. Sage fucking does not smell good. I'd rather burn, I don't know, they got some, uh, some other shit that they had in Mexico in a bucket, and they were-

Joe Rogan 23:51 In a bucket?

Action Bronson 23:51 ... walking around with it, and it was fucking crazy. It was-

Joe Rogan 23:53 Mm.

Action Bronson 23:54 ... taking all the flies away. That's better.

Joe Rogan 23:57 Well s- Do you know why they've always done that with sage? Was ... When they're b- when, when they burn sage? Sage is Salvia divinorum.

Action Bronson 24:04 Oh, I know.

Joe Rogan 24:04 Yeah, which a lot of people are not aware of. Like, sage is ... It's a type of sa- Salvia is a type of sage. So salvia, obviously for people who don't know, is a super potent psychedelic that mi- They missed it when they had that Schedule I Act of 1970 where they basically made everything illegal. They missed sage, somehow or another. You used to, you used to be able to buy salvia in a head shop. Like, in places where weed was completely illegal, you could buy a bag of this shit and go to another dimension.

Action Bronson 24:34 You could definitely buy salvia on Jamaica Avenue right now.

Joe Rogan 24:37 You still buy it, everywhere?

Action Bronson 24:38 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 24:39 Yeah. It's wild.

Action Bronson 24:39 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 24:39 It's so strong. For people who don't know, salvia is a super potent psychedelic. Like r- like, out of this world. You, you disappear, you go to another place.

Action Bronson 24:51 It's heavy for- it's heavy for a while. It's like your fucking mind, everything ex- explodes.

Joe Rogan 24:56 Yeah.

Action Bronson 24:56 But then comes back like T-2000, where it comes back and melts and... It's like metal for, like, melting metal that broke.

Joe Rogan 25:06 Mm.

Action Bronson 25:06 And then it comes back together.

Joe Rogan 25:08 My friend Ari did it. He did it on a podcast. And when he did it, he said he had a complete different life that he lived for several months. And it only lasted for 10 minutes, but he had several months of life. He made friends, he had relationships, he broke up, lost jo- the whole thing, like, lived, lived lives.

Action Bronson 25:26 Fuck me.

Joe Rogan 25:27 And then came out of it and realized he was only gone for 10 minutes, and was like, "What the fuck?" And he's talked about it on other podcasts since, but it was like one of the, he said literally one of the craziest moments of his life. And they filmed him the entire time-

Action Bronson 25:38 Well, that's good.

Joe Rogan 25:39 ... he was doing it.

Action Bronson 25:39 That's good, because you know sometimes when you trip out, you try to remember it.

Joe Rogan 25:43 Yeah.

Action Bronson 25:44 But it's never, you're not real- you feel kinda making it up.

Joe Rogan 25:46 Right, right, right.

Action Bronson 25:47 You're kinda making it up.

Joe Rogan 25:48 Yeah.

Action Bronson 25:48 Because you're so in the moment when it's, uh, y- like I could try and tell people my DMT. I've smoked it too many times to remember one spec- there's one specific, a couple of them, but bro, you know what I mean.

Joe Rogan 25:59 I do know what you mean.

Action Bronson 25:59 It's fucking, it's a never-ending story like the big-

Joe Rogan 26:01 Yeah.

Action Bronson 26:02 ... fucking white dog.

Joe Rogan 26:03 (laughs)

Action Bronson 26:04 That's what it is. You're on the dog, flying through the air.

Joe Rogan 26:07 I remember very specific moments, but when you're talking about a 15-minute trip, I might remember 30 seconds. Yeah.

Action Bronson 26:15 Specific moments. "I remember-

Joe Rogan 26:16 Yeah.

Action Bronson 26:16 ... standing like this, breaking through fucking boards of-

Joe Rogan 26:19 (laughs)

Action Bronson 26:19 ... life and fucking portals-

Joe Rogan 26:21 Oh.

Action Bronson 26:21 ... just like this."

Joe Rogan 26:23 Interesting. Interesting.

Action Bronson 26:24 Just, no, yeah.

Joe Rogan 26:24 Breaking through boards. So-

Action Bronson 26:26 Just breaking through different stages of things.

Joe Rogan 26:30 Oh, that makes sense for you. That's like, you had limitations that you'd put on yourself, and you're breaking through those limitations. And then you will actually are doing that now. That's real.

Action Bronson 26:41 A lot of things I've spoken into existence. Like one time, I, uh, it was just in a rap that I never even, you know, put out. But I had mentioned that I had had a drink with Ahmad Rashad at the bar. And then years later, I was at some Yankees game and randomly Ahmad Rashad was at the fucking bar.

Joe Rogan 27:02 (laughs)

Action Bronson 27:03 I know it might be silly, but I fucking made that happen. And that's how I feel the power of the mind is. I could make, if I made Ahmad Rashad appear at the fucking bar after I mentioned it four years prior-

Joe Rogan 27:16 Yeah.

Action Bronson 27:17 ... anything is possible.

Joe Rogan 27:18 I think there's weird windows into possibilities that occasionally we access. And I think that's like when you have a real tight relationship with a good friend, and then like they text you when you're thinking about them, you're, you're thinking about-

Action Bronson 27:32 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 27:32 ... calling them and, you know, you have close relation, like, like you're brothers. And then you get a email or you get a phone call or you get a text and you're like, "Oh, he was thinking about me too."

Action Bronson 27:42 Connections.

Joe Rogan 27:42 Like, "We're connected." There's some, there's some th- like and when you hear quantum mechanics and, uh, quantum physicists talk about quantum states where, like spooky action at a distance, where these, uh, these molecules, these atoms, there's something that happens to these quantum particles where one, in one area of the world, it will r- there's some sort of a reaction with something that's completely, uh, uh, like miles and miles apart. And they're somehow or another connected and they can't, they know because they can measure it, but they don't understand the connection. They don't know, they don't know what's going on. And we are made of all these things, right? And so if you can observe this at the quantum level, which is this incredibly small level that you literally can't see with your eyes. If you can measure this and know this, then how, w- why wouldn't we have some strange or why wouldn't it be possible that we have some strange connection with each other, some strange connection with life, that maybe doesn't totally make sense? And you can't teach it in school, you can't put it on a scale, you can't measure it with a ruler, but there's something there and we can access it occasionally. Occasionally it comes into focus, whether it comes into focus through a dream or through inspiration or when you achieve a higher state, like a higher state of life. You know, like just, there's connections that people have with each other that are, they're different. There's levels to those connections, right? Like the level of connection I have to my wife is very different than anybody else I've ever known. The level of connection I have with close friends, it's very different. It's very diff- there's, there's levels of connection.

Action Bronson 29:20 For sure.

Joe Rogan 29:21 Right? There's something happening there. What is it? It's not just like intimacy, it's not just getting to know each other. There's like a bond that people have.

Action Bronson 29:29 It's literally in nature.

Joe Rogan 29:30 Yeah.

Action Bronson 29:31 It's embedded in you and that other person that you guys are meant to attract.

Joe Rogan 29:36 There's something there.

Action Bronson 29:37 There is something because, I don't know if you, I'm sure you've done this, but like the regression, like past regressions and stuff and past lifetimes and shit like that, where you... My li- my wife talks to some fucking Colombian woman, some espiritu, fucking Colombian, who the hell knows? And she's, you know, passed down knowledge about how we've known each other for fucking 100 lifetimes, literally, in all kinds of different forms.

Joe Rogan 30:04 Whoa.

Action Bronson 30:04 And now this is the lifetime where it's finally meant to really like f- connect and fully bloom.

Joe Rogan 30:14 Mm.

Action Bronson 30:15 We've waited 100 lifetimes to bloom and this is the one, according to-

Joe Rogan 30:22 That lady.

Action Bronson 30:22 ... in Colombia.

Joe Rogan 30:22 I would say that if I was that l- I was that, if I was that lady, I would say that just because I want your money.

Action Bronson 30:27 I don't think she's paying her.

Joe Rogan 30:28 (laughs)

Action Bronson 30:28 She's not paying her.

Joe Rogan 30:30 Not at all?

Action Bronson 30:30 It's like a stage-

Joe Rogan 30:31 Oh.

Action Bronson 30:31 ... it's like an internship-

Joe Rogan 30:33 Oh.

Action Bronson 30:33 ... where she's fucking learning spiritual shit.

Joe Rogan 30:36 Yeah. I think there's people that know things. There's people that get a feeling. The problem is, and I think there's a lot of people-

Action Bronson 30:40 Listen, I know it's all about the fucking money too.

Joe Rogan 30:43 Yeah.

Action Bronson 30:43 I always reference Steve Martin, Leap of Faith.... you know that movie?

Joe Rogan 30:48 I don't remember it.

Action Bronson 30:48 He's a big, he's a big tent revival guy.

Joe Rogan 30:52 God. (laughs)

Action Bronson 30:52 He- he's like a fucking pastor in the big tent revivals, and they're just bullshitting, they're feeding him things, and he touches the woman and she starts fucking freaking out.

Joe Rogan 31:00 (laughs)

Action Bronson 31:00 It's my favorite shit. Listen, it's all about the bread. They lie to you all, in your face all day long.

Joe Rogan 31:06 There's a lot of that, but it's also a lot of people that wanna believe, you know? There's- there's some-

Action Bronson 31:11 They need to believe.

Joe Rogan 31:12 Yeah, there's a lot going on.

Action Bronson 31:13 They need to believe, yeah.

Joe Rogan 31:13 There's many things going on.

Action Bronson 31:15 That's like when you, you know, when you reach for Christ's hand-

Joe Rogan 31:18 Mm-hmm.

Action Bronson 31:18 ... or when you reach for-

Joe Rogan 31:19 Right, right, right.

Action Bronson 31:19 ... Allah's hand.

Joe Rogan 31:19 Yes.

Action Bronson 31:20 It's the same shit.

Joe Rogan 31:21 Yeah. You want-

Action Bronson 31:22 You know?

Joe Rogan 31:22 You want to change your life, and you, you seek a higher power to, like, give you that power to do that. A lot of, like, people-

Action Bronson 31:30 Give it meaning, right?

Joe Rogan 31:31 People in 12 step programs, right? They assign meaning to a higher power. They decide that you are helpless, and then you assign this, this, uh, this, this power to have, like, you know, control over your life. You give in to this idea that you can't control yourself-

Action Bronson 31:51 The Lord-

Joe Rogan 31:51 ... but then the Lord-

Action Bronson 31:52 The Lord is gonna just fucking-

Joe Rogan 31:53 But that's a big part of... But you know another big part of 12 step programs a lot of people don't know? The guy who started it, you know, was always a friend of Bill's, the whole deal. That guy, Bill, whoever the fuck he is, that guy was on acid.

Action Bronson 32:04 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 32:04 Like, his whole thing was doing acid. Like, the- the-

Action Bronson 32:06 He was fucking with people.

Joe Rogan 32:07 Well, no. The origin-

Action Bronson 32:07 (laughs) He was fucking with us, bro.

Joe Rogan 32:08 The, no, the original 12 step program, like, the guy, like, did a lot of experimentation with LSD to try to help him get through alcoholism. But the-

Action Bronson 32:18 And these were the steps he took.

Joe Rogan 32:20 Well, I don't know exactly, because I've never-

Action Bronson 32:22 It's like with things, I, I'm not gonna tell someone to do something if I've never done it.

Joe Rogan 32:26 Right. Well, I tell some people-

Action Bronson 32:27 This fucking-

Joe Rogan 32:28 ... to do things.

Action Bronson 32:28 Yeah, well...

Joe Rogan 32:29 Like if I, if you, someone's on meth, like, "Hey, bro, probably shouldn't do meth."

Action Bronson 32:32 Well, in that case-

Joe Rogan 32:34 (laughs)

Action Bronson 32:34 ... I can't say that 'cause I've never, if I tried it and it's probably popping.

Joe Rogan 32:38 I bet it's good.

Action Bronson 32:39 I'd probably be a meth addict for that. I'd definitely be a method.

Joe Rogan 32:42 What if you found out that that's how you lose the extra 30?

Action Bronson 32:44 No, I would... Ah, shit.

Joe Rogan 32:46 (laughs)

Action Bronson 32:46 But then I'd lose my teeth, and I'd fucking look like John Leguizamo in Spun.

Joe Rogan 32:51 Oh, yeah, that's right. (laughs)

Action Bronson 32:53 Nah, I can't do all that shit.

Joe Rogan 32:54 Yeah. No one comes out on the other end of meth like, "I'm glad I did it." (laughs)

Action Bronson 32:59 (laughs) But everyone I talked to they, they said they had a good time with it.

Joe Rogan 33:04 Yes.

Action Bronson 33:04 Right?

Joe Rogan 33:04 Well-

Action Bronson 33:05 No one downplays the meth.

Joe Rogan 33:06 No.

Action Bronson 33:06 They just downplay what happened to them after the meth.

Joe Rogan 33:09 Right.

Action Bronson 33:10 But while they were on it, that shit was fucking amazing.

Joe Rogan 33:13 Well, it was an amphetamine. Amphetamines give people a wild rush. It elevates you, you know? But it's, it's like, uh, (sighs) I used to have a... I used to build computers. I used to go and go to the computer store and buy a motherboard-

Action Bronson 33:27 No shit.

Joe Rogan 33:27 ... and buy a hard drive and the whole deal.

Action Bronson 33:29 Really?

Joe Rogan 33:29 Yeah. Yeah. It's not that hard.

Action Bronson 33:31 Now, I know my boy, this fucking kid that lived n- in the building next to me, Seth, used to do that also.

Joe Rogan 33:36 And one things that people used to do back in the day, you'd buy, like, a cheap processor and you would overclock it. So, you would, like, you'd put a big heat sink on it and a fan on it to cool it off. And they would take, like, back in the day, it was like, this was before, you know, what was it like? Celeron processors, Jamie? You remember those days.

Jamie Vernon 33:55 (coughs)

Action Bronson 33:55 We were putting fucking turbo.

Jamie Vernon 33:56 Pentium. Pentium processor.

Joe Rogan 33:58 Yeah. Yeah.

Action Bronson 33:58 Pentium 1.

Joe Rogan 33:59 But no, but the Celerons were like the cheap ones, and a lot of guys that ran gig... What was the speed though? The, the... I'm trying to remember the speed. Before, it was like 400 megahertz back in the day.

Action Bronson 34:13 Sure.

Joe Rogan 34:13 Was like a big deal. And guys would get like a 300 Celeron and they would overclock it to 400 megahertz and... But the thing is, it doesn't last. It's like, and I think that's the same with meth. It's like when you're redlining your engine, you could do it for a little while, but it doesn't do it for that long.

Action Bronson 34:28 You'll crash-

Joe Rogan 34:29 It's gonna crash.

Action Bronson 34:29 ... like the fucking computer.

Joe Rogan 34:30 Like meth heads.

Action Bronson 34:31 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 34:31 Yeah, they all eventually just like (imitates machine buzzing) You're like this all the time. (imitates machine buzzing) And then you start hearing voices. (imitates machine buzzing)

Action Bronson 34:37 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 34:37 And you start seeing things. (imitates machine buzzing)

Action Bronson 34:40 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 34:40 But I bet the first few, it's pretty fucking good.

Action Bronson 34:43 It's exciting.

Joe Rogan 34:44 Yeah, I bet you get a lot of shit done.

Action Bronson 34:45 But drugs are fucked up in general, man. Like, I just wanna say rest in peace to fucking DMX.

Joe Rogan 34:51 (smacks lips) That's a sad one.

Action Bronson 34:51 Rest in motherfucking paradise, man. There's, I've-

Joe Rogan 34:54 Did you see the video when they were getting his body outta the hospital?

Action Bronson 34:57 Nah.

Joe Rogan 34:57 It's pretty-

Action Bronson 34:58 I wanted to tell-

Joe Rogan 34:58 No, it's pretty amazing.

Action Bronson 35:00 I want-

Joe Rogan 35:00 The fans outside-

Action Bronson 35:01 They were f-

Joe Rogan 35:02 ... were playing his music while they're driving the car with his body out-

Action Bronson 35:05 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 35:05 ... of the hospital. I, I believe it was in White Plains. It's wild.

Action Bronson 35:08 That's crazy.

Joe Rogan 35:10 Just, just rabid, filling the streets.

Action Bronson 35:12 I, I wish I was able to tell him this story I'm about to tell you, 'cause this is fucking real deal, and it's like, he means so much to my family, it's crazy. (laughs) It sounds nuts. Not only did I grow up on fucking DMX, I love DMX, but my wife was in fucking labor for 18 fucking hours, and she had the doula there. I told you they're on some spiritual shit. A motherfucking Peruvian flute playing for 17 fucking hours-

Joe Rogan 35:42 (laughs)

Action Bronson 35:42 ... straight. The Peruvian flute music. I wanna, you know the one where-

Joe Rogan 35:46 What does that sound like?

Action Bronson 35:48 You, you, they came into my sixth grade class and we made a fucking flute. (whistles)

Joe Rogan 35:53 (laughs)

Action Bronson 35:53 17 hours in the f- like the Andes, the ones that... Bro. She starts freaking out. I'm like, "Yo, listen. We have an hour left, or we're gonna have to do a C-section or whatever." And she, "No fucking chance." So, turn the fucking Peruvian flute music off, and I put fucking DMX on.

Joe Rogan 36:14 (laughs)

Action Bronson 36:15 Stop, drop. That motherfucker jumped out of her.

Joe Rogan 36:21 (laughs)

Action Bronson 36:21 I swear on everything. It's on camera. It's on film. As soon as the Peruvian flute mu- music stopped, DMX came on, he, he fucking heard the dog. (barks)

Joe Rogan 36:32 (laughs)

Action Bronson 36:32 And he came out. He just jumped out.

Joe Rogan 36:34 (laughs) That's amazing.

Action Bronson 36:36 I just, it just, it, it hurts my fucking heart that I was never able to tell him that.

Joe Rogan 36:40 Oh, man.

Action Bronson 36:41 Like, man. That's, it's like the cra- It, it's, the fucking, the doctor was going nuts. He was freak-

Joe Rogan 36:48 (laughs)

Action Bronson 36:48 Because everyone was just fucking sick of that shit. Everyone, I wanted to jump out of-

Joe Rogan 36:51 They were probably so tired, right?

Action Bronson 36:52 I wanted to jump out of the window from the music. I was laid out on the floor.... fartin'.

Joe Rogan 36:57 (laughs)

Action Bronson 36:57 Yeah, I was fun, 'cause I had like, I had hospital chips.

Joe Rogan 37:01 Oh, no. Hospital chips, man?

Action Bronson 37:04 But, you know-

Joe Rogan 37:05 That's amazing.

Action Bronson 37:05 ... they shut down Flushing Hospital for us, nice little area. It was beautiful.

Joe Rogan 37:09 And so it just changed the vibe of the room.

Action Bronson 37:11 Man, he fucking popped right out on everything, like ma- it's on camera. I couldn't, I can't make that up.

Joe Rogan 37:17 Where the hood, where the hood, where the hood at?

Action Bronson 37:18 No, not on, uh, eh-

Joe Rogan 37:19 (laughs)

Action Bronson 37:20 That would have been good one. But he came out on the, the hit Stop, Drop, Shut 'Em Down, Open Up Shop. Boop.

Joe Rogan 37:27 He had some fucking jams. He had some fucking jams.

Action Bronson 37:30 Nothing but, nothing but heat.

Joe Rogan 37:31 And what a voice.

Action Bronson 37:33 He's the man.

Joe Rogan 37:33 What a voice he had.

Action Bronson 37:34 It's the dog.

Joe Rogan 37:36 Huh.

Action Bronson 37:36 He's the fucking man.

Joe Rogan 37:37 Fucking drugs, man.

Action Bronson 37:38 It's fucked up.

Joe Rogan 37:40 It's taken-

Action Bronson 37:40 Fucked up.

Joe Rogan 37:41 You think about all the great artists that have been, that have lost it, lost their lives because of drugs. I mean, it's, it's astonishing. And you, you go over it, all the musicians, so many musicians.

Action Bronson 37:51 Artists are touched, man. They're the ones that are the most vulnerable to drugs. They're touched. There's a lot of, uh, pressures and lots of, you itself-

Joe Rogan 38:01 Yeah.

Action Bronson 38:01 ... y- it's you pretty much put it on yourself when you become, because you, some people don't know how to handle it, you know. I've always been told that I'm good at it, like I'm good at being who I am because I'm me.

Joe Rogan 38:13 Yeah.

Action Bronson 38:13 I'm, don't fucking get nervous if they, I don't overthink. I'm just... You know what I mean?

Joe Rogan 38:18 You got a good vibe.

Action Bronson 38:19 I'm just vibed out.

Joe Rogan 38:20 Yeah.

Action Bronson 38:20 I'm not, I'm not worried about all these things everyone like... Putting a fucking chain on my neck doesn't excite me. Putting fucking fancy cars don't excite me. I like having the things I like, but I'm fucking, I'm here.

Joe Rogan 38:33 You're good at being-

Action Bronson 38:33 I'm with everybody. I'm down here with e-

Joe Rogan 38:34 You're good at being you.

Action Bronson 38:35 I'm fucking happy being who I am, man. It's just like the most ha- happy place I am is me.

Joe Rogan 38:41 It's very, it's very complicated for people also because a lot of people are judging you and so you get confused as to who you are.

Action Bronson 38:46 All day.

Joe Rogan 38:47 So the lie-

Action Bronson 38:48 All day.

Joe Rogan 38:48 That, that's what happens with a lot of famous folks.

Action Bronson 38:50 Of course.

Joe Rogan 38:50 A lot of entertainers. You get so many voices. So if you're a person like DMX, you literally have millions of people talking about you.

Action Bronson 38:58 Pssh.

Joe Rogan 38:58 Good and bad and-

Action Bronson 39:00 Yep.

Joe Rogan 39:00 ... and both ways and, "Oh, he's terrible. He's the shit. He's a god. He's a bum. He's a loser."

Action Bronson 39:07 It's fucking confusing.

Joe Rogan 39:08 "He's my favorite."

Action Bronson 39:09 It's confusing.

Joe Rogan 39:09 And you just, if you get the, the, this, you let these people influence who you are as a person, if you let that in, if you take that in, and then you think about the pressures of fame and maintaining fame... And one of the things about the rap world, in particular, at least until recently, is that like there were, it was a very short-lived fame. And there was something about guys when they got to a certain age where nobody wanted to hear from them anymore.

Action Bronson 39:37 You're right.

Joe Rogan 39:38 There was a lot of them like that. Now, now it's changing. Like now, you know, you're seeing like Snoop is the most... He has more longevity-

Action Bronson 39:48 Man.

Joe Rogan 39:48 ... and more relevance-

Action Bronson 39:49 It's unbelievable.

Joe Rogan 39:50 He's the best at it.

Action Bronson 39:51 He's so good at being him.

Joe Rogan 39:53 He's so good at being him.

Action Bronson 39:53 That's it.

Joe Rogan 39:54 That's it.

Action Bronson 39:54 That's what, people love him for being him, and he's him to the fucking max.

Joe Rogan 39:57 That's it. Yeah, you can't... Everyone knows who Snoop is. He knows who Snoop is. Like, uh, he was the best part, other than Jake Paul's knockout punch.

Action Bronson 40:06 (blows raspberry)

Joe Rogan 40:06 He was the best part of that whole pay-per-view thing.

Action Bronson 40:08 He's funny.

Joe Rogan 40:08 It was just listening to him talk-

Action Bronson 40:10 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 40:11 ... and, and watching him d- you know, do commentary. And then when him and Ice... Who's the, uh, and Too Short, and who was the other dude was with him?

Jamie Vernon 40:19 Uh...

Joe Rogan 40:19 There was four dudes.

Jamie Vernon 40:20 Ice Cube

Narrator 40:21 Eminem

Joe Rogan 40:22 Yeah, they call it Mount Westmore.

Action Bronson 40:24 Oh, yeah. It's, I think it's Ice Cube, E-40.

Joe Rogan 40:27 That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. It was great.

Action Bronson 40:29 Snoop and Too Short.

Joe Rogan 40:30 Yeah, but S- Snoop, and I love Too Short too. I love Ice Cube too.

Action Bronson 40:33 I mean, they're all amazing.

Joe Rogan 40:33 But Snoop is-

Action Bronson 40:34 Man, Ice Cube's old shit-

Joe Rogan 40:36 Yes.

Action Bronson 40:36 Oh, my fucking God.

Joe Rogan 40:37 Yes.

Action Bronson 40:37 That's unfuckwithable music.

Joe Rogan 40:39 Yeah.

Action Bronson 40:39 Like that music is un- Hoo!

Joe Rogan 40:41 He played Today Was A Good Day. That was part of the, uh, the performance.

Action Bronson 40:44 Oh, my God.

Joe Rogan 40:44 He, he played that. It's still good, still relevant.

Action Bronson 40:47 To this day. They-

Joe Rogan 40:48 I mean, you gotta go back. Ice Cube's from fucking '88, man. He popped in '88. That's crazy. He was famous in 1988.

Action Bronson 40:56 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 40:56 So stop and think about that, dude. That's 33 fucking years ago. That's nuts.

Action Bronson 41:00 I'm six years old.

Joe Rogan 41:01 That's nuts, right? And he's still doing it.

Action Bronson 41:05 Man.

Joe Rogan 41:05 And when he goes up and he s- and he starts singing Today Was A Good Day, everybody gets excited. But, uh, in the early days of rap, that was not the case. In the early days of rap, when, uh, you know, un- unless you're a legend, unless you're like one of those, like a Snoop-type dude, it's hard for guys to maintain. There was something about guys getting in their 40s. People didn't wa- not wanna hear them rap anymore.

Action Bronson 41:27 No. Yeah, there, there's definitely a time limit on rap, but-

Joe Rogan 41:31 I think that's changing.

Action Bronson 41:33 (clears throat) But people like Jay-Z who we don't even know his age. He's like a fucking Cuban baseball player.

Joe Rogan 41:38 (laughs)

Action Bronson 41:39 We don't know. He's like fucking Yoel Romero. We don't know what a-

Joe Rogan 41:42 (laughs)

Action Bronson 41:42 You know, we don't know what age he is. He's just, he's Jay-Z.

Joe Rogan 41:46 (laughs) That's exactly-

Action Bronson 41:46 And he can literally rap forever-

Joe Rogan 41:48 (laughs)

Action Bronson 41:48 ... and it'll be relevant. Like for me, Kool G Rap could rap forever-

Joe Rogan 41:50 Yes.

Action Bronson 41:50 ... and I would love it.

Joe Rogan 41:51 Yes. Thank you.

Action Bronson 41:52 I would love to hear it any, any day.

Joe Rogan 41:54 I'm so glad you brought up Kool G Rap.

Action Bronson 41:55 He's my favorite of all time.

Joe Rogan 41:56 Bro.

Action Bronson 41:56 I love that man. I've sat in a room with him while he rapped, and I rapped at the same... It was like mind-blowing shit. Like, I'm doing a song with G Rap, like crazy.

Joe Rogan 42:05 I was a big- he, I mean, he's another guy. Like I was a big fan of his in like '91?

Action Bronson 42:09 Esh.

Joe Rogan 42:09 Like, when was he around? He was like '91, '92?

Action Bronson 42:11 I remember I was in, I don't know, fifth grade and he was playing basketball in the park by my house, and I had him sign a napkin.

Joe Rogan 42:18 (laughs)

Action Bronson 42:18 He was in a suit playing basketball. He was wearing a fucking suit.

Joe Rogan 42:22 A lot of people forgot about him and that's unfortunate-

Action Bronson 42:24 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 42:24 ... because Kool G Rap's a fucking amazing talent. That song-

Action Bronson 42:27 Unreal.

Joe Rogan 42:28 ... uh, Cock Blocking.

Action Bronson 42:29 Oh, my God.

Joe Rogan 42:29 To this day, that's one of my favorite songs.

Action Bronson 42:31 (laughs) That's a great song. I mean, that was from the XXX era.

Joe Rogan 42:34 Yes, yes.

Action Bronson 42:35 The Talk Like Sex. Man, y- the, the rap, rappers now, it's not that it's... It's gotten much younger.

Joe Rogan 42:44 Yeah.

Action Bronson 42:44 It, the age is 13, 12-year-olds. That's what, that's who likes this music.

Joe Rogan 42:49 Mm-hmm.

Action Bronson 42:49 And then there's, there's like tiers, you know? There's like s- eh, there's shit for everybody is what I'm saying.

Joe Rogan 42:56 Yeah.

Action Bronson 42:57 There's tiers. But the thing that's the most overwhelming is the young, the young boys.

Joe Rogan 43:01 Yeah.

Action Bronson 43:02 Young rap, that's all they do.

Joe Rogan 43:04 Well, you know what I love right now? Um, I love what Lil Nas X is doing.

Action Bronson 43:08 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 43:08 I love how he's freaking everybody out and getting under their skin. (laughs)

Action Bronson 43:11 Yeah, I mean, he's just-

Joe Rogan 43:12 His, his fucking latest video-

Action Bronson 43:13 He's like Lady Gaga.

Joe Rogan 43:14 (laughs)

Action Bronson 43:14 He's just shock- it's like shocking shit.

Joe Rogan 43:17 Well, when he gave Satan a lap dance... Uh, because here's what's happening, man. My kids, when they were young, when, uh, when Old Town Road came out, in their fucking grammar school, they were singing it. They were all singing it in school. Like, kids loved that song. So here's this dude, who's this young, wild, gay dude, who's singing this song with Billy Ray Cyrus, and it becomes this gigantic fucking hit.

Action Bronson 43:41 (laughs) Billy Ray Cyrus-

Joe Rogan 43:41 And, and they're-

Action Bronson 43:42 ... looks fucking crazy.

Joe Rogan 43:43 ... and then the next thing he comes out with, he's selling sneakers with human blood in them.

Action Bronson 43:49 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 43:49 He's giving Satan a lap dance. (laughs)

Action Bronson 43:53 Oh my God. I'm-

Joe Rogan 43:54 I-

Action Bronson 43:54 It's just crazy that I even know about these things, man.

Joe Rogan 43:57 Everybody got so confused.

Action Bronson 43:58 Everyone knows.

Joe Rogan 43:58 I was cheering. I was like, "Yes! (laughs) Yes, I love it!" It was like, "Look, look, look, we gotta flip the switch on this thing. We can't, we can't, we can't have this. We can't have this. We can't have these... I can't be just singing for little kids for the rest of my life."

Action Bronson 44:12 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 44:12 "We gotta get, we gotta get crazy."

Action Bronson 44:14 Fucking Little Nas X, bro.

Joe Rogan 44:16 (laughs)

Action Bronson 44:17 Yo, it's fucking unbelievable.

Joe Rogan 44:18 And, you know, it's the, the, the courage that guy had to do that.

Action Bronson 44:22 It's-

Joe Rogan 44:22 Becaus- he had to have a lot of people in his ear telling him, "No, no, no. No, no, no. Listen, we got a big thing going on here, Little Nas X."

Action Bronson 44:28 Oh my God.

Joe Rogan 44:28 "We've got a really, really important product."

Action Bronson 44:30 I can only imagine.

Joe Rogan 44:30 "Your brand, we gotta work on your brand. We gotta work on your marketing. We ca- we're elevating your brand. Come on."

Action Bronson 44:35 Ugh.

Joe Rogan 44:35 "You could be a huge, huge, huge act deep in your 30s."

Action Bronson 44:38 (coughs)

Joe Rogan 44:38 "And then maybe when you get older and you wanna do some crazy shit like give Satan a lap dance, maybe you do it then."

Action Bronson 44:41 And then you do it, yo-

Joe Rogan 44:42 "But not now."

Action Bronson 44:43 Listen, man.

Joe Rogan 44:44 "Little N- Little Nas X... Excuse me, Lil, Lil Nas X, this is not the time."

Action Bronson 44:49 Lil, this, the, the, the voice that you're putting on to, as the executive is exactly the-

Joe Rogan 44:54 (laughs)

Action Bronson 44:54 ... fucking v- I've been hearing this shit for so long, man. Fucking cockamamie people, it's unbelievable.

Joe Rogan 44:59 Well, those cockamamie people will get in your life if you need them.

Action Bronson 45:02 Yeah, no, there's no doubting. But they were in my life for a little bit, and then they left.

Joe Rogan 45:05 They were-

Action Bronson 45:05 And that's the way it is. It's just-

Joe Rogan 45:06 ... they were in my life for a little bit too.

Action Bronson 45:08 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 45:08 Yeah.

Action Bronson 45:08 You leave, you come, you leave.

Joe Rogan 45:09 Yeah.

Action Bronson 45:09 But-

Joe Rogan 45:10 They-

Action Bronson 45:10 ... um, listen, please-

Joe Rogan 45:11 ... I-

Action Bronson 45:11 ... go. Don't come.

Joe Rogan 45:11 I-

Action Bronson 45:11 Don't come. Go.

Joe Rogan 45:12 ... I get it from their perspective. They're not of this world. They're not of the world of you and I-

Action Bronson 45:16 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 45:16 ... of performance. They don't understand what it's like to go on stage and you get wild. They don't get it.

Action Bronson 45:21 No.

Joe Rogan 45:21 It's- they don't know how to write wild shit.

Action Bronson 45:23 No.

Joe Rogan 45:23 You write wild shit.

Action Bronson 45:24 Yeah, they have no clue.

Joe Rogan 45:25 If you, if you like ran your lyrics by them, and go, "Hey, come here." (blows raspberry)

Action Bronson 45:30 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 45:31 (laughs) This is what I'm thinking of saying.

Action Bronson 45:31 Sometimes I read that shit back-

Joe Rogan 45:33 (laughs)

Action Bronson 45:33 ... and go, "What the fuck is wrong with me?"

Joe Rogan 45:35 Exactly.

Action Bronson 45:36 Like, it's all about trying to make myself laugh.

Joe Rogan 45:38 Yeah.

Action Bronson 45:38 You just think of the craziest shit, man. That's really what makes-

Joe Rogan 45:41 Or make people like me laugh.

Action Bronson 45:42 Yeah, exactly.

Joe Rogan 45:43 Yeah, but that's the thing.

Action Bronson 45:43 If I'm laughing, you're laughing.

Joe Rogan 45:45 Yes, exactly. I'm... Look, I, I write for wild people and I hope other people go along with it too, but I'm writing for wild people. Like, I, I want my friends... I want Joey Diaz to laugh. I want my friends to laugh.

Action Bronson 45:56 Yes.

Joe Rogan 45:56 You know?

Action Bronson 45:57 That, that, that's what it's always been about. I want, I want my fucking craziest friend to accept and love what I just said.

Joe Rogan 46:01 Yes, exactly. It, when... Dude, when you're a comic and you hear in the back of the room, like Joey Diaz (laughs)

Action Bronson 46:05 (coughs)

Joe Rogan 46:06 (laughs) when he's dying, you're like, "Yes." And he'll, he'll grab you.

Action Bronson 46:12 Yeah, I know, you kill it.

Joe Rogan 46:12 He'll grab you and fucking shake you up, "You crazy motherfucker. What'd you do to me? What'd you do to me, Joe Rogan?" But that's... You know y- executives not gonna... Like if you read, I go, "Hey, this is what I'm thinking about saying tonight on..." "No, don't say that."

Action Bronson 46:24 No, they kill you.

Joe Rogan 46:25 "What if someone from casting is in the room?"

Action Bronson 46:27 They'll fucking have a shit.

Joe Rogan 46:28 "Listen, listen, listen, you have a legitimate television career going on here. There's no reason to f- to sacrifice this."

Action Bronson 46:33 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 46:33 "Don't be s- a saboteur. Don't be self-sabotaging. Don't be... Don't, don't do it."

Action Bronson 46:38 I've definitely been talked off the ledge several times though.

Joe Rogan 46:41 Yeah.

Action Bronson 46:42 But I should have been-

Joe Rogan 46:43 By who though? By who?

Action Bronson 46:44 Couple different people.

Joe Rogan 46:45 Some people are-

Action Bronson 46:46 Some people could get through to me.

Joe Rogan 46:47 ... you, you listen to them.

Action Bronson 46:47 It depends who, uh, the mood I'm in, who's gonna get through to me. It could be the fucking doorman that gets through to me that day, like, "Yo, he said some real shit." "Yeah, you know what? You're right."

Joe Rogan 46:56 Yeah.

Action Bronson 46:57 It could be anybody. It depends.

Joe Rogan 46:59 Yeah.

Action Bronson 46:59 But yeah, I try to fucking keep it light.

Joe Rogan 47:01 Well, you know, the, the thing about creativity is... That it's, it's, it's, it's not a flat line, right? Like, it's a wi- it's like one of them polygraphs-

Action Bronson 47:13 You can't just do this. Yeah, you can't fucking put your face-

Joe Rogan 47:14 It's like this. (growls)

Action Bronson 47:15 ... it's all over, it's all over, it's, it's going on. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 47:17 Yeah. It's crazy. It's... Whatever it is, it's, it's a wild thing. These, these ideas are coursing through your head and you're writing them down, then you're trying to figure out the best way to do them and how to say them in a way that people are gonna like, that it's gonna make people pop.

Action Bronson 47:31 Like our brains are working right now, we're both talking, I'm thinking about lyrics right now.

Joe Rogan 47:36 Sure.

Action Bronson 47:36 I just thought about some lyrics. I just thought about some painting technique I was gonna do. I just thought about Valentinas. The f- this shit is crazy the way we're able to work our brains and, and, and... Kind of, uh, just f- just grab shit-

Joe Rogan 47:55 Yeah.

Action Bronson 47:55 ... from all over the... and just inspiration this, you could fucking work it-

Joe Rogan 47:58 Yeah.

Action Bronson 47:58 ... I'm thinking about some fucking sex I had back in the day.

Joe Rogan 48:01 (laughs) Yeah.

Action Bronson 48:01 You know what I mean? Like it's all a-

Joe Rogan 48:02 Inspiration.

Action Bronson 48:03 ... it's craziness. And this-

Joe Rogan 48:04 Paul Mooney used to tell me back in the day, he used to say it to everybody, but I remember him telling it to me, "If you want to write, go get entertained." He's like, "When I w- I wanna create, I get entertained." He's like, "I go to a movie, I'll see a concert, I'll see somebody, I go and get entertained." You get ent-

Action Bronson 48:20 I love... (coughs) I love live entertainment, period.

Joe Rogan 48:23 Me too. Yeah, me too.

Action Bronson 48:25 (coughs)

Joe Rogan 48:25 I particularly love things that I don't do. Like I love music.

Action Bronson 48:28 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 48:28 And I'll... You know, I just love... I don't play an instrument, so when I see a dude who can jam on a guitar-

Action Bronson 48:32 Oof.

Joe Rogan 48:33 ... I love it. I love it. I just love watching.

Action Bronson 48:35 I like that too.

Joe Rogan 48:36 Yeah.

Action Bronson 48:36 I like being in the mist or just like, uh, uh.

Joe Rogan 48:39 Yeah. (laughs)

Action Bronson 48:40 Just, uh, just, just emceeing while these dudes fucking play sick like-

Joe Rogan 48:44 Yeah.

Action Bronson 48:44 ... jazz and shit.

Joe Rogan 48:45 Did you ever-

Action Bronson 48:46 Like they don't need me there.

Joe Rogan 48:46 ... listen to, uh, the Brand New Heavies?

Action Bronson 48:48 Yes.

Joe Rogan 48:48 When they have th- when they had that thing where they did, they did one with, uh, Kool G Rap.

Action Bronson 48:53 Really?

Joe Rogan 48:54 Yeah, yeah. Brand New Heavies did a rap album, a collaboration album with multiple artists.

Action Bronson 48:59 And they had G Rap on it?

Joe Rogan 49:00 Yeah, um-

Action Bronson 49:01 Oh my God, yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 49:01 ... Heavy Rhime Experience, I believe it is.And it's from back-

Action Bronson 49:04 I've never heard that.

Joe Rogan 49:05 That's it right there. Bro, is one of my favorite CDs. I had it ... This is how old I am.

Action Bronson 49:10 Ed O.G. Shouts to him. Masta Ace, Gang Starr, Main source.

Joe Rogan 49:13 Look at that. Gang Starr, It's Getting Hectic.

Action Bronson 49:14 Some of the, I mean some of the best, some of the best rappers, rap groups-

Joe Rogan 49:18 Death Threat, Kool G Rap.

Action Bronson 49:18 ... and rappers ever.

Joe Rogan 49:19 Bro, that Gang Starr-

Action Bronson 49:20 Main source, bro. Come on.

Joe Rogan 49:21 Yep.

Action Bronson 49:22 This is next level shit. Grand Puba was one of my favorites.

Joe Rogan 49:25 Black Sheep, State of Yo. The, uh, but that, It's Getting Hectic, by Gang Starr. I'm a giant Gang Starr fan. That is-

Action Bronson 49:31 Gang Starr's phenomenal.

Joe Rogan 49:32 Phenomenal.

Action Bronson 49:33 Guru was one of the most underrated rappers, man.

Joe Rogan 49:35 He's amazing.

Action Bronson 49:36 His voice, everything. His ev- Everything was next level.

Joe Rogan 49:37 When he died, that was very sad for me.

Action Bronson 49:39 Because it was-

Joe Rogan 49:40 That, that was a bummer.

Action Bronson 49:41 I didn't ... No one knew. No one knew.

Joe Rogan 49:42 No.

Action Bronson 49:42 I didn't know he was sick.

Joe Rogan 49:43 No, no one knew he was sick.

Action Bronson 49:44 It just kind of ... He, he, I guess he hid it.

Joe Rogan 49:47 Yeah.

Action Bronson 49:47 And he didn't wanna tell anybody.

Joe Rogan 49:49 Well, it's like Chadwick Boseman. You know, when he died too. The Black Panther dude?

Action Bronson 49:52 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 49:52 When he died, no one knew he was dying.

Action Bronson 49:54 Yeah, that's fucking crazy too, right?

Joe Rogan 49:55 He, he had gotten si- He had gotten sick and he was all skinny and everybody was making fun of him for being skinny.

Action Bronson 49:59 I saw that.

Joe Rogan 49:59 They didn't realize the guy was dying.

Action Bronson 50:00 That's fucked up.

Joe Rogan 50:02 But, the, the thing about, like, Guru-

Action Bronson 50:03 People get made fun of so goddamn much on internet for no ... They, they just ... Fucking, it's fucked up.

Joe Rogan 50:08 It's natural.

Action Bronson 50:09 It is natural, but it's fucked up because-

Joe Rogan 50:10 You know what the problem is?

Action Bronson 50:12 You fuck, it's, you feel bad sometimes for the person.

Joe Rogan 50:14 This is the problem. The problem is, it's in print and everybody can read it. But it's what people normally did. Like, Louis C.K. said this to me, and he made, it made a lot of sense. It like resonated. I'm like, "Oh, okay. That makes sense." Because it's just talking. Like people talk shit. They say things. People have always, "Oh fuck that dude." You know, "Oh that guy's a asshole." Or, "That guy's a this."

Action Bronson 50:35 But it just goes past even just words.

Joe Rogan 50:36 And it just, in and out, and it goes away.

Action Bronson 50:38 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 50:38 But when they write it down, and then other people read it, and then people retweet it, and then other people, uh, they, they add onto it. And then you got thousands of people that are saying the same thing. And it doesn't necessarily mean anything more than when someone would just say it when no one's around.

Action Bronson 50:54 True.

Joe Rogan 50:55 But peop- There's ... That's why ... You know The, The Four Agreements? Do you know that, uh ... You ever heard of that book?

Action Bronson 51:01 Mm-mm.

Joe Rogan 51:01 I think they made it five, right? It's, uh ... Pu- pull up that book, 'cause it's, it's a really interesting book. And I, I'm gonna say this as a person who's very flawed and I don't always follow these F- Four Agreements, but there's real, there's real value and there's real wisdom in this. Pu- Um, it's uh, Don Miguel Ruiz, and The Four Agreements are: Agreement number one, be impeccable with your word. So, that means like don't say, "Fuck that dude." Even, sometimes I'll say "fuck that dude" just because it's funny, it's a funny thing to say, like someone who's amazing. I'd be like, "Fuck that dude."

Action Bronson 51:36 Of course.

Joe Rogan 51:37 "That guy sucks."

Action Bronson 51:38 Of course.

Joe Rogan 51:38 Like just, for just as a ... But it's just because I-

Action Bronson 51:40 Cheeky.

Joe Rogan 51:40 But everybody knows it's not real.

Action Bronson 51:42 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 51:42 I'm being silly. Like, you know I love them.

Action Bronson 51:45 Yep.

Joe Rogan 51:46 Or, don't take anything personally. That's agreement number two. It's hard to not take things personally.

Action Bronson 51:51 Tha- that's, that's rough. That's tough.

Joe Rogan 51:51 But if you can do that, you will be way better off. You'll be way better off. Number three agreement: Don't make assumptions. Don't assume things. The- These are the valuable agreements in order to live a more harmonious life. And number four, this is my favorite, because this one I do: Always do your best. Now I wouldn't say I do this always, but I, most of the time, do my best. I mean, I do my best as much as I can. I try to honor those agreements. I think ... And there's a new ... What is the fifth agreement?

Action Bronson 52:23 I always try to do my best, but the other ones are fucking hard.

Joe Rogan 52:26 The fifth agreement takes us to a deeper level of awareness, the power of the self, and returns to the authenticity we're born with. The fifth agreement takes ... What is it?

Jamie Vernon 52:33 Bye.

Joe Rogan 52:34 No, there's a fifth, there's a fifth one of those agreements.

Jamie Vernon 52:37 I figured it out.

Joe Rogan 52:37 Does it just say ... You, but ... Uh, the fifth one: Be skeptical, but learn to listen.

Action Bronson 52:43 Mm. These are good.

Joe Rogan 52:45 Beautiful.

Action Bronson 52:45 These are good.

Joe Rogan 52:46 That's beautiful.

Action Bronson 52:46 These are good.

Joe Rogan 52:46 They're, they're amazing. They're amazing. I like how he revised them.

Action Bronson 52:49 It's so hard to apply. It's hard to apply. You have to be conscious. You have to be conscious if you're doing it, and not, not vocalize.

Joe Rogan 52:55 Yeah.

Action Bronson 52:55 You can maybe think it, but if you're thinking it, are you not applying it?

Joe Rogan 52:59 Yeah.

Action Bronson 52:59 So, what the fuck?

Joe Rogan 53:00 But listen to this. If we put this out there and we, you and I, say, "We are going to try to live our lives by those four agreements," and the fifth agreement too. If we're gonna live our lives by those agreements, and we, we send that message out to all you people out there that are listening, you should try to do it too. No-one, you know, no one's telling you to do it, but it'll help you. It'll be better for you. It'll be better for everybody.

Action Bronson 53:22 From what I'm looking at, it looks good.

Joe Rogan 53:23 Yeah, it'll be better for everybody.

Action Bronson 53:24 It, it seems reasonable to me.

Joe Rogan 53:25 I'm gonna put that out there. So I'm gonna ... Like, if you ... And p- You know, people call me out on it if I don't do it. Unless I'm joking. Like-

Action Bronson 53:32 Yeah, come on.

Joe Rogan 53:32 Don't get mad at me for joking, because I joke a lot. But-

Action Bronson 53:35 There's gotta be a line.

Joe Rogan 53:36 But, the ... Be impeccable with your word is very valuable. Always do your best is very valuable. The, these, those things, always doing your best, is very valuable. It's so valuable. If you can live like that, man, you'll, you'll, you'll, you'll be on a better course. You'll be on a better path. And other people will see it, and it'll inspire them to be on a better path. And that's what life's all about.

Action Bronson 53:57 Well, I can speak to this. I can speak to this in the sense that I never follow through with anything. Like a long time ago. And now all I do is try to do my best in everything, and put my fucking best foot forward, don't do anything that my heart's not in.

Joe Rogan 54:14 Yeah.

Action Bronson 54:15 Because I never give it my all.

Joe Rogan 54:18 Yeah.

Action Bronson 54:18 And it's, it's not fair to what I'm doing, you know, to that s- specific thing. Like, there's been situations where I, I feel- I did it for the wrong reason, like just doing it for money, or doing ... It's, this is not good. It's, it always turns out wrong. Never feels good here.

Joe Rogan 54:35 Yeah, but sometimes you have to make those mistakes in order to understand what's the right path. Sometimes you gotta go down the wrong path-

Action Bronson 54:42 For sure.

Joe Rogan 54:42 ... and go, "Oh, okay. This is not for me."

Action Bronson 54:44 Well, I realize that, you know? And, and I try to live by those, by those principles, but a lot of things for me is I have to stop over committing to things. I have an issue with over committing. I say yes to something when I really don't want to do it, and then the last second I just cancel.

Joe Rogan 55:02 (laughs) I know what that's about.

Action Bronson 55:06 Bro, I'm a fucking asshole with that, I can't help it. I've done it for... Uh, it's been 10 years now.

Joe Rogan 55:10 Do you say yes when you're high, though? Is that what it is?

Action Bronson 55:12 I'm always high.

Joe Rogan 55:13 (laughs)

Action Bronson 55:13 There's never a situation where it's not high, so...

Joe Rogan 55:17 (claps)

Action Bronson 55:17 This is what I do.

Joe Rogan 55:19 I used to have those problems with my manager before-

Action Bronson 55:20 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 55:21 ... I said no to everything. Now I say no to everything, but I used to be like, "Did I say yes to that?" And she'd, she'd be like, "Yeah, you said yes to that." I'm like, "Fuck."

Action Bronson 55:27 Yeah, exactly. I-

Joe Rogan 55:28 I forgot.

Action Bronson 55:29 Hun-... That's what I do. I forget. I'm like, "Oh, fuck. It's this bitch coming up this week."

Joe Rogan 55:34 Ugh.

Action Bronson 55:34 Like, "It's this week?" Ugh.

Joe Rogan 55:35 I'm like, "Can I get out of this?" Can't get out of it.

Action Bronson 55:39 There's always a way out, you just have to fucking deal with the consequences.

Joe Rogan 55:42 But then you feel bad. Then, then-

Action Bronson 55:43 I always feel bad.

Joe Rogan 55:44 ... you're not impeccable with your word.

Action Bronson 55:46 There it is, that's the problem.

Joe Rogan 55:47 That's it.

Jamie Vernon 55:47 Yeah.

Action Bronson 55:47 And that, all these things are connected to each other, and that's the problem right there for me, and I'm trying to work on that.

Joe Rogan 55:53 Yeah.

Action Bronson 55:54 So, like, I, I initially say no, and then I have them ask me three more times just to make sure-

Joe Rogan 56:00 Yeah.

Action Bronson 56:00 ... so I could really dig in to what it is that they're asking of me.

Joe Rogan 56:05 But at a certain point in time, if you say yes to everything, then you, you're not saying... You don't have any time for your life. Your life is gone, like you're-

Action Bronson 56:10 But think about how many things you've said no to.

Joe Rogan 56:13 Yeah.

Action Bronson 56:13 You know? Like, I've said no to more shows than I've done, I think. That you say no-

Joe Rogan 56:17 Oh, for sure.

Action Bronson 56:17 ... you have to say no.

Joe Rogan 56:18 After a while.

Action Bronson 56:18 Yeah, after a while you say no.

Joe Rogan 56:19 After a while. Yeah. After a while, it gets to the point where you have to say no. You know, because, also, like, you don't know what you're getting into. Like, you say yes to something, like, "Well, who's involved in this? What is it gonna be like?" Like, "What, what's gonna... What's the purpose of this thing?"

Action Bronson 56:34 (coughs)

Joe Rogan 56:34 "What's, what's it gonna be like when it's done?" Like, "Is, am I... This is something I really wanna be a part of? Is this a disaster? What is this?"

Action Bronson 56:41 (coughs) Pardon me.

Joe Rogan 56:42 Whoo, that's a lot of vape some.

Action Bronson 56:45 (coughs)

Joe Rogan 56:45 I feel like that's smoke. I don't feel like that's vape.

Action Bronson 56:49 There's no... (coughs) That's not like fucking apple vape.

Joe Rogan 56:51 That, you are smoking weed.

Action Bronson 56:52 That's straight up hash.

Joe Rogan 56:53 That's what I'm saying.

Action Bronson 56:54 That's like, if I was to take one of those blasts out of the pipe, it'd be that. I just had them put it in here.

Joe Rogan 57:01 Mm-hmm. Science.

Action Bronson 57:02 It's clean. It's no fucking... Bro, it's not one of those cartridges that you buy and it's like, fucks you up, gives you a third eye on your ass.

Joe Rogan 57:09 (laughs)

Action Bronson 57:09 You know what I mean? This is clean.

Jamie Vernon 57:12 That was a-

Action Bronson 57:12 Full spectrum clean.

Joe Rogan 57:14 That's a problem with a lot of people with COVID, is, uh, people who vaped. You buy cheap vape oil and you don't know how they're making it, and there's a lot of kids that are vaping all the time and they're damaging their lungs.

Action Bronson 57:23 Bro, if there's one thing I spend money on, is my... (coughs) Is what goes into my lungs, is what this... The hash. I don't give a fuck about much, but I care about hash.

Joe Rogan 57:35 Hmm. I understand. I'm not even talking about that kind of vape, I'm talking about tobacco vaping.

Action Bronson 57:39 Oh, tobacco. Yeah, that shit's nasty.

Joe Rogan 57:41 It is nasty, but it's also dangerous. There's a lot of kids that are out there vaping and they think it's better than cigarette smoking, and they're doing a lot of damage to themselves.

Action Bronson 57:49 Well, they're doing tricks now. When, when, once you're able to start doing tricks with something, you shouldn't do it.

Joe Rogan 57:54 What kind of tricks?

Action Bronson 57:55 Where they fucking blow... They take the smoke, and then they blow it into a big circle, and they jump through it, and they do all...

Joe Rogan 58:01 (laughs)

Action Bronson 58:01 You've never seen this shit?

Jamie Vernon 58:03 No.

Action Bronson 58:03 It's like fucking champion vape fucking ac-

Joe Rogan 58:06 Oh, no.

Action Bronson 58:06 ... acrobatics and athletics.

Joe Rogan 58:08 Oh, no.

Action Bronson 58:09 It's crazy.

Joe Rogan 58:09 So like breakdance vaping?

Action Bronson 58:11 Yeah. Breakdance vaping, fucking... There's this one... I don't know what to call him, but there's this one dude, he's fucking blowing things all over the place, and then he like... Yeah, this fucking guy.

Joe Rogan 58:22 (laughs)

Action Bronson 58:24 This fucking... Look at this.

Joe Rogan 58:26 Oh, this is insane.

Action Bronson 58:27 What is he doing?

Joe Rogan 58:28 Whatever he's doing is awesome.

Action Bronson 58:29 It's awesome, but what is he smoking? What is that?

Joe Rogan 58:31 Who is this guy? Amazing vape trick-

Action Bronson 58:33 Yo, he just threw a fucking Hadouken.

Joe Rogan 58:35 Bro, he's got 24 million videos, or million views on this video.

Action Bronson 58:39 Yeah. Bro, he just threw a fucking Hadouken with the smoke.

Joe Rogan 58:42 Wow.

Action Bronson 58:43 Yeah, you see?

Joe Rogan 58:43 How old is this kid? He looks like he's 12.

Jamie Vernon 58:45 I think.

Action Bronson 58:45 And we... I... Let's, let's check his lung capacity.

Joe Rogan 58:47 How old is he?

Jamie Vernon 58:47 Yeah, I say he might be. I don't know.

Joe Rogan 58:49 He looks very young. It's amazing what he's doing, though.

Action Bronson 58:52 Yeah, this is next level.

Joe Rogan 58:53 That's next level.

Jamie Vernon 58:54 He's got three million subscribers.

Joe Rogan 58:56 Well, he's got 24 million views on this video, man.

Jamie Vernon 59:00 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 59:00 What is... Does this... What is his name, Jamie?

Action Bronson 59:00 So, like I said, once you sh-

Jamie Vernon 59:01 Uh, Austin... TheAustinL.

Action Bronson 59:02 Once you start doing this, you shouldn't do this.

Joe Rogan 59:06 TheAustinL. I wonder if he lives in Austin.

Action Bronson 59:09 Look, you got fucking... There's a picture, there's an Arnold training video under there, too.

Joe Rogan 59:13 Bro, look at that. That's wild.

Action Bronson 59:14 You're telling me that there's an amazing vape trick and then an Arnold training video, or is that just your algorithm?

Joe Rogan 59:19 I was with you.

Jamie Vernon 59:20 Yeah, that's the algorithm.

Joe Rogan 59:21 Oh, go, go back, go back, go back. What did he do? Uh, he just did it like a dragon. Back up. Look at that.

Action Bronson 59:25 Whoa.

Joe Rogan 59:26 He curled his m... Listen, I was with you up until I saw the video. Now I'm on his side.

Action Bronson 59:32 (laughs)

Jamie Vernon 59:32 Look how much he said to smoke to get all these moves.

Action Bronson 59:34 I'm definitely entertained.

Joe Rogan 59:36 If he dies, he dies.

Action Bronson 59:38 Look at, oh, look at that, that was a sick fuck-

Joe Rogan 59:41 That's amazing. Listen...

Action Bronson 59:43 See, that's heady as fuck.

Joe Rogan 59:44 This kid's from another planet.

Action Bronson 59:46 You know what? I like it now.

Joe Rogan 59:47 Yeah, I'm with him.

Action Bronson 59:48 I'm actually... I'm into it now.

Joe Rogan 59:50 He's a magician.

Action Bronson 59:51 Fuck it.

Joe Rogan 59:52 Look at this. Come on, man. Look what he's doing.

Action Bronson 59:54 Damn, that was good.

Joe Rogan 59:55 This is crazy.

Action Bronson 59:55 The rotation on that bottom one was nuts.

Joe Rogan 59:59 All of it. Bro, this guy's Dr. Strange.

Action Bronson 1:00:01 My lord. When... Does this end or does he keep going? Does he have more?

Joe Rogan 1:00:05 He's Benedict Cumberpatch.

Jamie Vernon 1:00:06 Probably half of it, though.

Joe Rogan 1:00:07 What's his name?

Action Bronson 1:00:08 Damn, he has a lot of fucking moves.

Jamie Vernon 1:00:09 And then you got, then you got...

Joe Rogan 1:00:09 Benedict Cumberbatch?

Jamie Vernon 1:00:10 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:00:10 Is that it? Patch or batch?

Jamie Vernon 1:00:12 Batch.

Joe Rogan 1:00:13 He's Dr. Strange, man.

Action Bronson 1:00:14 Whoa! Whoa!

Joe Rogan 1:00:18 Come on.

Action Bronson 1:00:18 No. Come on.

Joe Rogan 1:00:19 Come on. This kid's amazing.

Action Bronson 1:00:21 He has an Evisu sweatshirt on.

Joe Rogan 1:00:23 Meanwhile, take that kid for a jog.

Action Bronson 1:00:26 Yeah, definitely not.

Jamie Vernon 1:00:28 (panting)

Joe Rogan 1:00:28 If he did what we did today, he'd be like...

Action Bronson 1:00:29 Oh, come on, there's no chance.

Jamie Vernon 1:00:31 He's got a pretty good knowledge of, uh, cur- wind current. How do you cont... How the fuck did he do that?

Joe Rogan 1:00:37 How'd he do that?

Jamie Vernon 1:00:38 How the fuck did he do that?

Joe Rogan 1:00:38 That's a jellyfish.

Action Bronson 1:00:39 This damn fucking champion over here, bro.

Jamie Vernon 1:00:41 Holy fuck.

Action Bronson 1:00:41 He's a fucking weatherman.

Joe Rogan 1:00:41 Look at this shit.

Action Bronson 1:00:42 This is nuts.

Joe Rogan 1:00:43 Come on, this kid's amazing. I wanna hire him for a birthday party.

Jamie Vernon 1:00:46 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:00:48 (laughs)

Action Bronson 1:00:48 You know what? Yo, I swear to you, one of these fucking kids would love that shit. These kids would freak out with the phone, they would be filming it nonstop.

Joe Rogan 1:00:56 Look at that, look at that.

Action Bronson 1:00:57 He's a star. He... This guy's a star.

Joe Rogan 1:00:59 Yeah, he is a star.

Action Bronson 1:00:59 This is a, this is a celebrity right here.

Joe Rogan 1:01:01 Oh, yeah, in my eyes.

Action Bronson 1:01:02 But this is...

Jamie Vernon 1:01:03 It's documented.

Action Bronson 1:01:03 But it's fucking crazy what a celebrity is, right? This is a celebrity.

Joe Rogan 1:01:07 Yeah.

Action Bronson 1:01:07 I fuck with... I like this man.

Joe Rogan 1:01:08 I like it. Austin Lawrence, that's his name.

Action Bronson 1:01:12 This is crazy.

Jamie Vernon 1:01:13 Lots of vape videos.

Joe Rogan 1:01:14 Jesus Christ.

Jamie Vernon 1:01:15 Lots and lots of vape videos.

Joe Rogan 1:01:16 How much ... Imagine his parents, like, "Stop vaping!" Like, "Mom, I'm telling you, I'm onto something."

Jamie Vernon 1:01:20 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:01:20 "Shut the fuck up and stop vaping."

Action Bronson 1:01:22 My god.

Joe Rogan 1:01:23 "Get out of your room." Oh, he's got different color vapes. Oh, what is this?

Action Bronson 1:01:29 Nice.

Joe Rogan 1:01:29 What have we here?

Jamie Vernon 1:01:30 Oh, my god. It's gotta be super healthy.

Joe Rogan 1:01:31 Hold on. Look at the size of that-

Action Bronson 1:01:32 See now, see now, I'm back-

Joe Rogan 1:01:34 ... robot dick he's sucking on it.

Action Bronson 1:01:34 ... I'm back on it. I'm not re- ... I don't like it anymore.

Joe Rogan 1:01:36 But hold please. Look at this.

Action Bronson 1:01:37 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:01:38 Come on, he's got purple haze. Like, legit purple haze.

Action Bronson 1:01:41 (laughs) Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:01:42 Come on, man. As a Hendrix fan?

Action Bronson 1:01:43 I mean, this is unbelievable.

Joe Rogan 1:01:45 Look, he's got green shit. Look it.

Action Bronson 1:01:48 That's, ooh-

Joe Rogan 1:01:48 The, the aliens are gonna come and talk to him first.

Action Bronson 1:01:51 Look at that thing.

Joe Rogan 1:01:52 Look at that thing.

Action Bronson 1:01:52 I wish I had that contraption for my hash.

Joe Rogan 1:01:54 Mm. If you did, you wouldn't be here right now, you'd be hovering.

Action Bronson 1:01:56 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:01:58 Look at this shit. This is wild, man.

Action Bronson 1:02:00 Yo, what is that? I have to learn what that company is. I think he built it like a fucking, that's a ... He built-

Joe Rogan 1:02:06 Oh, he's got yellow shit too.

Action Bronson 1:02:07 Like he did the computers.

Joe Rogan 1:02:08 Yeah, look at him.

Action Bronson 1:02:09 He built the vape.

Joe Rogan 1:02:10 Come on, man. Look at this.

Action Bronson 1:02:10 I think those are all different pieces from different vapes.

Joe Rogan 1:02:13 Do you think he gets pussy from this?

Action Bronson 1:02:15 No. Yes.

Joe Rogan 1:02:15 What about this?

Action Bronson 1:02:16 Yes, yes, yes, he does.

Joe Rogan 1:02:17 (laughs)

Action Bronson 1:02:18 Yes, he does, 100%.

Joe Rogan 1:02:19 Whatever he wants, he gets. Girls are mesmerized.

Action Bronson 1:02:21 100% ... No, 100% he gets pussy from that because it's ... You can get it for all kinds of weird things.

Joe Rogan 1:02:25 Yeah. That is a, that's an art form.

Action Bronson 1:02:27 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:02:28 It's just a weird one that nobody ever thought was an art form before.

Action Bronson 1:02:30 He made me want to hit the vape.

Joe Rogan 1:02:32 (laughs) Did you wanna try to do some of that? Let me sh- show me something. Show me something. You must've learned something. (laughs)

Action Bronson 1:02:47 It didn't work.

Joe Rogan 1:02:48 You need one of those robot dicks like he's got, those big fat boys. Those big ... That thing was-

Action Bronson 1:02:53 Like this.

Joe Rogan 1:02:53 ... like a lunchbox. Yeah, it was a cellphone. That thing was huge.

Action Bronson 1:02:57 Fucking bastard, man.

Joe Rogan 1:02:58 They make those.

Action Bronson 1:02:58 I'm gonna-

Joe Rogan 1:02:58 There used to be a store near me in, uh, in California that, that had all these vape constrap. Remember we had that one big one that some dude sent me? It was huge. Remember that thing?

Jamie Vernon 1:03:08 Yeah, I remember trying to put it together.

Action Bronson 1:03:10 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:03:10 It was like this.

Action Bronson 1:03:11 Why do you have to start putting together the vape?

Jamie Vernon 1:03:13 Water cup. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:03:13 Yeah.

Action Bronson 1:03:13 Don't send me anything I have to put together, bro. Send-

Joe Rogan 1:03:15 Oh, what is this?

Jamie Vernon 1:03:16 Ah, just thought I was trying ... The forced creativity he's gonna have to go through now 'cause he's stuck and on the vape diet.

Joe Rogan 1:03:21 Oh, because he's gonna keep doing this?

Jamie Vernon 1:03:22 Yeah, I mean, he's gonna get really creative at what he's doing, which is-

Joe Rogan 1:03:25 Oh, now he's doing special effects though.

Jamie Vernon 1:03:26 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:03:26 So now I'm a bit skeptical.

Jamie Vernon 1:03:28 If it's his effort, but-

Action Bronson 1:03:28 Yeah, nah, I don't like this.

Joe Rogan 1:03:29 I don't like this.

Jamie Vernon 1:03:30 All right.

Action Bronson 1:03:30 You know how everyone does, like, collabs now?

Joe Rogan 1:03:32 How many does he own?

Action Bronson 1:03:32 He's gonna start showing up in other people's videos.

Jamie Vernon 1:03:34 Uh, 2.8 million followers on his Instagram channel.

Joe Rogan 1:03:37 (sucks teeth)

Action Bronson 1:03:37 He's gonna start showing up in, like, bodybuilding videos and just fucking in the background of cooking shows and shit.

Joe Rogan 1:03:43 Yeah. He's gonna just add atmosphere.

Action Bronson 1:03:44 Yeah, he's just gonna be there now. Yo, you doing-

Joe Rogan 1:03:45 Maybe you could have him in the back of your shows. Like, when you go back on stage.

Action Bronson 1:03:49 Oh my god. Now I'm gonna add in-

Joe Rogan 1:03:50 You're on stage rapping and he's behind you. Yes.

Action Bronson 1:03:52 What I really wanted to do, I was gonna add in some kettlebell work.

Joe Rogan 1:03:55 You mean just-

Action Bronson 1:03:56 Get the crowd into some kettlebell work on, on stage.

Joe Rogan 1:03:59 Hm. Okay.

Action Bronson 1:04:00 A flow.

Joe Rogan 1:04:00 Yeah, I get it.

Action Bronson 1:04:01 Maybe a Mase flow.

Joe Rogan 1:04:02 Yeah, a nice Mase flow. Yeah.

Action Bronson 1:04:05 That fucking dude in there.

Joe Rogan 1:04:07 You ever thought about cooking on stage while you're rapping? Have a little-

Action Bronson 1:04:10 Of course. There's no-

Joe Rogan 1:04:11 Have a little Weber right by the side of the stage?

Action Bronson 1:04:12 Well, see, the We- I would have to be outdoors.

Joe Rogan 1:04:15 Smelling the audience (sniffs) .

Action Bronson 1:04:16 Yeah, it would have to be outdoor with the Weber.

Joe Rogan 1:04:17 Right.

Action Bronson 1:04:18 Y- you know, the thing-

Joe Rogan 1:04:18 Maybe some South by Southwest shit. Do it out here.

Action Bronson 1:04:21 I would love that.

Joe Rogan 1:04:22 Right? Zilker Park?

Action Bronson 1:04:23 Let's go.

Joe Rogan 1:04:24 Mm.

Action Bronson 1:04:25 Let's do it.

Joe Rogan 1:04:25 Right? You should do ... That would be something that you literally could pull off, like a gigantic cookout/ ... 'Cause as a chef/rapper, like, you're a legit chef and a legit rapper, you could do that. You could have a show where people are outside barbecuing and doing music at the same time.

Action Bronson 1:04:46 Yeah, I wanted to do, like, a little fest, like a Fuck That's Delicious Festival.

Joe Rogan 1:04:49 Yes.

Action Bronson 1:04:50 Have all my favorite people around that cook.

Joe Rogan 1:04:52 Yes.

Action Bronson 1:04:52 Have amazing acts. Have a little, uh, a exposé on olive oil, on different things, like a little class people could take. A little, you know, 10-minute rotating class.

Joe Rogan 1:05:03 Yes.

Action Bronson 1:05:04 You know, just, like, a little fun, fun day. We could shoot the fucking balloon, sh- shoot the clown in the mouth.

Joe Rogan 1:05:11 (laughs) You, you have more energy now to do shit too. It's like, you'll have more enthusiasm to do shit 'cause your body's healthy.

Action Bronson 1:05:18 You're right. You know what? When I was on stage at 300 and whatever pounds, I was still good. My lung capacity was unbelievable.

Joe Rogan 1:05:27 Yeah.

Action Bronson 1:05:28 But I would be chilling in a room smoking all day, sitting there eating. I wouldn't be active. There would be nothing else going on. Now, I fucking want to do things. I'm bringing my body board to Portugal when I go to the show 'cause I'm going to fucking shred. There's no doubt about that. Like, I'm in the ocean when it's snowing. Like-

Joe Rogan 1:05:47 Freezing cold. I saw that.

Action Bronson 1:05:48 I don't ... My man fucking Will, my man Will Scooting, we ... He has this spot in the American Dream Mall in, um, in Jersey. It's like that mall in Minnesota, the big one-

Joe Rogan 1:05:58 Uh-huh.

Action Bronson 1:05:59 ... with the roller coasters and shit. There's a water park in there.

Joe Rogan 1:06:02 (laughs)

Action Bronson 1:06:03 Look at me catching shade right there.

Joe Rogan 1:06:05 That's crazy.

Action Bronson 1:06:05 That's fu- I'm fucking tubular right there.

Joe Rogan 1:06:07 Oh, that's crazy.

Action Bronson 1:06:08 That's what tubular is.

Joe Rogan 1:06:09 That's in a mall?

Action Bronson 1:06:10 That's in a fucking mall.

Joe Rogan 1:06:12 In New Jersey?

Action Bronson 1:06:13 In New Jersey in a fucking mall.

Joe Rogan 1:06:15 New Jersey doesn't get enough respect.

Action Bronson 1:06:16 After hours. After hours. That was probably, like, 11:00 PM.

Joe Rogan 1:06:20 New Jersey just ... People think of New Jersey in a very negative way. It's not, it's not fair.

Action Bronson 1:06:25 Oh, yeah, watch that one. Whoop.

Joe Rogan 1:06:27 Look at this.

Action Bronson 1:06:28 Scoop. Ooh. The whole point is just going, is letting the wave go over your head.

Joe Rogan 1:06:33 You think you're eventually gonna move to surfing?

Action Bronson 1:06:35 Nah. I'm, I'm not made to stand up, I'm made to lay.

Joe Rogan 1:06:38 (laughs)

Action Bronson 1:06:39 Yeah, I'm made to go headfirst, man. I'm headfirst.

Joe Rogan 1:06:42 Yeah, but you're doing all these other-

Action Bronson 1:06:42 I'm like a fucking crocodile.

Joe Rogan 1:06:44 (laughs)

Action Bronson 1:06:45 Straight up. I'm El Cocodrillo.

Joe Rogan 1:06:47 Did you see that video of this fucking idiot who's got food in his mouth for a fish? He's dangling it into the water and the fish jumps up and hits the food and knocks him out cold?

Action Bronson 1:06:55 Nah.

Joe Rogan 1:06:55 And he falls in the tank?

Action Bronson 1:06:57 No, like a fucking arapaima?

Joe Rogan 1:06:58 Yeah, um, who has it-

Action Bronson 1:07:00 That big ass fish?

Jamie Vernon 1:07:01 Oh, oh yeah, I have it.

Joe Rogan 1:07:02 I think Mike ... Uh, Robin Black has it on his, uh, Instagram.

Jamie Vernon 1:07:06 I got it, fact.

Joe Rogan 1:07:07 Bro, it's the most ridiculous shit ever. This g- ... Look at this, look at this, look at this. So this dude is in there, watch this.... the fish, bang.

Action Bronson 1:07:15 (laughs) Oh.

Joe Rogan 1:07:15 Look, bro, he's out cold.

Action Bronson 1:07:17 Bro, that is like a fucking arapaima. That's a catfish, right? What was that?

Joe Rogan 1:07:21 An arapaima is an enormous fish. Oh, he was joking around.

Action Bronson 1:07:25 Oh, he was fucking around.

Joe Rogan 1:07:25 He was fucking around.

Jamie Vernon 1:07:25 No, he said he was knocked out.

Joe Rogan 1:07:26 No. Did he?

Jamie Vernon 1:07:27 That's what he said. He said, "I got knocked out." I watched the video a few times to see what the fuck happened.

Joe Rogan 1:07:30 Do, do it one more time.

Action Bronson 1:07:31 And then he woke up underwater?

Joe Rogan 1:07:32 Do it one more time. Oh, this is every wheel kick finish in the UFC.

Action Bronson 1:07:36 Oh, yeah. This one's a tough one.

Joe Rogan 1:07:37 Here it goes. Watch it one more time.

Jamie Vernon 1:07:39 Hold tight, two hands on camera. (kicking) Oh my God. (yelling)

Action Bronson 1:07:42 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:07:42 No, man. I'm telling you, he ain't faking it.

Action Bronson 1:07:45 He went stiff.

Joe Rogan 1:07:46 Yeah.

Jamie Vernon 1:07:47 Oh my God!

Action Bronson 1:07:47 I don't know.

Jamie Vernon 1:07:48 Ha! Ha!

Joe Rogan 1:07:50 Yeah, he woke