Joe Rogan Experience #1637 - Action Bronson

Action Bronson is a musician, chef, painter, and author. His book, "F*ck It, I'll Start Tomorrow: A True Story", is available now.

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0:00 – 1:02
Rogan congratulates Bronson’s transformation and how the weight loss started
1. ABAction Bronson
  (drum music) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.
2. JVJamie Vernon
  The Joe Rogan Experience.
3. NANarrator
  Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music) Action Bronson, ladies and gentlemen.
4. JRJoe Rogan
  Dude, first of all, before we even get started, congratulations. I just wanna congratulate you publicly. What you've done is amazing. It's amazing. I've been following you on Instagram. It's super inspiring, man. I mean, it touches me, man. It really does. I love when someone gets a, a, a positive path going in their life and sticks with it, and you see real progress, and you're so dedicated, man. It's really inspiring. It's beautiful.
5. ABAction Bronson
  Thank you, man. Listen, it was a long time coming. It's, it's just... I'm, I'm happy that it happened now, 'cause if it, if it didn't happen, it would've been something else. I would've been in a grave.
6. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
7. ABAction Bronson
  Or somewhere else. Who the hell knows where they would've put me?
8. JRJoe Rogan
  When did you start?
9. ABAction Bronson
  I've been, I've been fat my whole life. I've been thinking about losing weight for a long time, for probably about 30 years.
10. JRJoe Rogan
  But when did you start losing weight? When-
11. ABAction Bronson
  Last March.
12. JRJoe Rogan
  Last March?
13. ABAction Bronson
  Yeah.
1:02 – 3:48
Pandemic catalyst: the airport day, the scale shock, and the reality of “fat shaming”
1. JRJoe Rogan
  So right around the pandemic, right as it hit.
2. ABAction Bronson
  Literally. Right when it hit. My brand new baby and my wife, they were gonna go to Colombia to show the child. You know, you have to show the child to the family. And it was around March 10th. We get to the airport, some sh-... They, they wouldn't let my dog get on the plane, 'cause they didn't have the... The air conditioning didn't work in the, in the galley or whatever that is. So we turned right back around and went home. And that's the day shit hit the fan. I was supposed to go on tour a week right after that. Everything done. I knew it was all gonna be done. I was talking to my agent. He was like, "Yeah, this shit's gonna be fine. Don't worry. They're gonna still do the show in Hawaii." I was like, "Nah, watch. This shit's gonna be fucking done." So bottom line is-
3. JRJoe Rogan
  Why, why did you think everything was gonna get shut down?
4. ABAction Bronson
  I don't know. I had a feeling. I just had a-
5. JRJoe Rogan
  Intuition.
6. ABAction Bronson
  I had a feeling that this was just bigger than what it was.
7. JRJoe Rogan
  Hm.
8. ABAction Bronson
  You know, than just... It, it just seemed fishy. Just seemed fishy.
9. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
10. ABAction Bronson
  So, pretty much, I mean, to get the dog onto the plane we had to put her on the scale, 'cause she was a little overweight.
11. JRJoe Rogan
  What's overweight, for a dog?
12. ABAction Bronson
  I'm not really sure. I think she looks great.
13. JRJoe Rogan
  What is overweight for a dog though? How do they decide that? Like, I used to have a dog that was 140 pounds.
14. ABAction Bronson
  Listen-
15. JRJoe Rogan
  Was he overweight?
16. ABAction Bronson
  I don't think so. Just jacked.
17. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
18. ABAction Bronson
  This is n-... (laughs) That's all I think. If you're at a certain weight, you're just jack... This dog is an English setter. Supposed to have a little waist. And listen, she lost it a little bit. She lost herself. She's living in Brooklyn now, you know. She's not back where she's from.
19. JRJoe Rogan
  Exercising.
20. ABAction Bronson
  That's different.
21. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
22. ABAction Bronson
  She's eating different foods.
23. JRJoe Rogan
  Right.
24. ABAction Bronson
  Her metabolism changed.
25. JRJoe Rogan
  Right.
26. ABAction Bronson
  So I don't blame her. So...
27. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
28. ABAction Bronson
  'Cause I've, I dealt with it.
29. JRJoe Rogan
  You fed her.
30. ABAction Bronson
  I feel her. And then I started losing weight 'cause of her, because we both got on the scale, and I was like, "What the fuck is going on?"
3:48 – 10:56
Functional training obsession: Onnit Gym, Jon Wolf, mobility, and finding the right coach
1. JRJoe Rogan
  It only means something when it's real, and it's an indulgence thing. It's not... It's, it's not a thing that you can't control. It's a hard thing to control. It's a hard thing to bounce back from, and that's what I'm most impressed with you. You've, you really bounced back. You've lost 130 fucking pounds, man. And we, we had a good workout today. We went over to the Onnit Gym.
2. ABAction Bronson
  Yep.
3. JRJoe Rogan
  Shout out to my man Jon Wolf.
4. ABAction Bronson
  Yes, Jon.
5. JRJoe Rogan
  Jon Wolf's the master.
6. ABAction Bronson
  I love him.
7. JRJoe Rogan
  How good is he?
8. ABAction Bronson
  I mean, I, I've watched him, and now that I met, I met him, it's like I... All the pieces came together today for me.
9. JRJoe Rogan
  He's one of the most knowledgeable trainers I've ever worked with in my life. He's amazing. He... And it's not just like meathead stuff. It's all about mobility and flexibility and-
10. ABAction Bronson
  Yeah. It was no- nothing meathead.
11. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, nothing, yeah.
12. ABAction Bronson
  I mean, he can obviously lift a lot of weight.
13. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
14. ABAction Bronson
  He showed us he could do the 106 overhead press with no- like nothing.
15. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
16. ABAction Bronson
  But it ain't about that. It's about being able to... It's fluidity. It's about to be a... It's about using your body and using your muscles in a functional manner.
17. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
18. ABAction Bronson
  Not just... (grunting)
19. JRJoe Rogan
  He's, he's all about longevity-
20. ABAction Bronson
  Yes.
21. JRJoe Rogan
  ... and he's all about range of motion. His whole thing is about having you have like the full mobility of your body. It's all fl- these flexibility things that we did, the hip things that we did, all that stuff. And it's all to strengthen the joints, stabilize your shoulders, stabilize all your joints, and... He's, he's just so good, so amazing.
22. ABAction Bronson
  Bro, the pre-workout that we did.
23. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
24. ABAction Bronson
  I mean, I was soaked. I was soaked-
25. JRJoe Rogan
  Great.
26. ABAction Bronson
  ... before we started.
27. JRJoe Rogan
  It was great.
28. ABAction Bronson
  It was unbelievable.
29. JRJoe Rogan
  You're very strong though, man.
30. ABAction Bronson
  I appreciate that.
10:56 – 14:16
Food as reward: park steaks, cooking by feel, and building an olive oil brand
1. JRJoe Rogan
  And then I saw you shrink and I'm like, "Look at him go." And I'm- and y- it's every fucking day, man. You know, one of my favorite videos of yours, you had this crazy workout and then you cook steaks at the park.
2. ABAction Bronson
  (laughs)
3. JRJoe Rogan
  I loved it.
4. ABAction Bronson
  That's my favorite shit. That- that's how I-
5. JRJoe Rogan
  Reward yourself.
6. ABAction Bronson
  That's my life.
7. JRJoe Rogan
  Yes.
8. ABAction Bronson
  You know, I bring- I always have the barbecue in the trunk of the Cherokee.
9. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
10. ABAction Bronson
  Always. The Jeep Grand Cherokee is my car.
11. JRJoe Rogan
  Yes.
12. ABAction Bronson
  I've been driving that fucking thing forever. I love that car. You got the Yeti thing in the back.
13. JRJoe Rogan
  Mm-hmm.
14. ABAction Bronson
  Pack all the stuff that I need. I got the Japanese hardwood charcoal.
15. JRJoe Rogan
  Yes.
16. ABAction Bronson
  I got my torch to light it.
17. JRJoe Rogan
  Yes.
18. ABAction Bronson
  And I got my- my little Weber grill. I'm good to go.
19. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
20. ABAction Bronson
  You know, and I just- right after the workout in the parking lot or wherever I just pull up, in the park-
21. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
22. ABAction Bronson
  ... 'cause I don't just do one workout. I got to do a couple. I- I- I just have this energy now that it's not just- it's not enough to just do an hour of some training. I need to go out and do more things during the day, you know, I have to go on the roof and swing the Bulgarian bag.
23. JRJoe Rogan
  Mm-hmm.
24. ABAction Bronson
  I have to, you know, play paddle ball. I have to hit the park, do calisthenics and stuff like that.
25. JRJoe Rogan
  There you go. (laughs)
26. ABAction Bronson
  Look at me.
27. JRJoe Rogan
  You just staying active, always moving.
28. ABAction Bronson
  Yeah, man. Well-
29. JRJoe Rogan
  And what do you- what do you have the steak covered in? What is that- what's on the outside of that?
30. ABAction Bronson
  I covered the top in garlic with like a ni- it's just a nice pulverized garlic and some sea salt. And I just let them cook slowly while I played.... every al- every so often I would go. That's my boy, Pierre. We've been playing handball for fucking 25 years.
14:16 – 19:56
Health rebounds: energy, libido jokes, training tools, and fixing Bronson’s shoulder
1. JRJoe Rogan
  Like I have never been really obese, but doesn't life feel better when you're healthy now?
2. ABAction Bronson
  My bro, it's, it's ... You n- it's a million times ... I had fucking issues that I would be embarrassed to say right now. It's, you know those things where you ... There's like little nuances of life that just ... What the fuck?
3. JRJoe Rogan
  Right.
4. ABAction Bronson
  How did I get to this point?
5. JRJoe Rogan
  Right.
6. ABAction Bronson
  It's not good.
7. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
8. ABAction Bronson
  Everything is fucking working 1,000%. Like I never had an issue with my dick, but now it's fucking unbelievable.
9. JRJoe Rogan
  (sings)
10. ABAction Bronson
  Yeah, it's like it's unbelievable, that ... Fucking, it's like Jaws.
11. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
12. ABAction Bronson
  When you, when I'm coming towards my wife it's like duh-nuh-nuh, she's fucking running away from me.
13. JRJoe Rogan
  Well, you, all that exercise, and then you're doing so much weight training, it's gotta jack up your testosterone.
14. ABAction Bronson
  Yeah, for sure.
15. JRJoe Rogan
  And w- watching what you did today, the only way you were able to do that workout today is if you've been doing that for a long time. Like we, we did a difficult workout.
16. ABAction Bronson
  For sure.
17. JRJoe Rogan
  E- especially that shoulder plex complex with the rows and the squats and the, the cleans and all that stuff that John had us doing. That's, that was real work.
18. ABAction Bronson
  For sure. And, you know, the dude Andrew from Onnit, he-
19. JRJoe Rogan
  Shout out to Andrew Craig.
20. ABAction Bronson
  Yeah. I w- Yeah, he was ... Andrew Craig was at a book signing of mine couple years ago, and he saw me working out and shit like that, and he just sent me the maces. He sent me a bunch of stuff. That dude fucking got me literally Onnit.
21. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
22. ABAction Bronson
  Literally, with the clubs, the bulgari. And that's really all I use. My studio is filled with that shit. I go to the gym for the things I can't do, like chest work and other stuff like that, you know? But I do a lot of kettlebells and a lot of swinging of the mace and Indian clubs at the studio and o- on the roof of the studio.
23. JRJoe Rogan
  That's awesome, man.
24. ABAction Bronson
  Yeah. That's my favorite stuff to do.
25. JRJoe Rogan
  Mm-hmm.
26. ABAction Bronson
  The mobility stuff.
27. JRJoe Rogan
  Right.
28. ABAction Bronson
  I love feeling static strong, you know, like squats and fucking deadlifts and all that stuff, but this is equally as, as satis- satisfactory.
29. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah. I love kettlebells because of that, because you're moving. You're doing a lot of things. I love like kettlebell flows-
30. ABAction Bronson
  It looks cool.
19:56 – 23:57
Hash vaping, ritual, and strange habits: from kief nostalgia to OCD and “sage cleansing”
1. JRJoe Rogan
  Are you vaping now?
2. ABAction Bronson
  (coughs)
3. JRJoe Rogan
  No smoking weed?
4. ABAction Bronson
  (coughs) It's just that I have this vape.
5. JRJoe Rogan
  Right.
6. ABAction Bronson
  I didn't wanna bring the big glass contraptions on here, fucking torch up. This is just for on the go.
7. JRJoe Rogan
  Are you vaporizing now and not smoking blunts anymore?
8. ABAction Bronson
  Yeah. I only vaporize hash.
9. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh.
10. ABAction Bronson
  The purest hash around, I'm vaporizing it all over.
11. JRJoe Rogan
  The last time you were here, you smoked a preposterous-
12. ABAction Bronson
  A lot. (coughs)
13. JRJoe Rogan
  ... amount of weed, because I took pictures of the ashtray and put it on Instagram.
14. ABAction Bronson
  Yeah. (laughs) Oh my God.
15. JRJoe Rogan
  And people were like, "That was just him?" That was just him.
16. ABAction Bronson
  Yeah, man.
17. JRJoe Rogan
  Like, I didn't, I didn't keep up with you.
18. ABAction Bronson
  I was an animal. I was an animal.
19. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
20. ABAction Bronson
  But the thing is, I'm animalistic with hash.
21. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh, yeah?
22. ABAction Bronson
  Ha- I mean, when you look at a High Times Magazine and you see all those little, you know, the little furry molecules.
23. JRJoe Rogan
  Mm.
24. ABAction Bronson
  That's what I'm smoking.
25. JRJoe Rogan
  Mm.
26. ABAction Bronson
  I'm not smoking the rest of the actual green.
27. JRJoe Rogan
  Mm. Right.
28. ABAction Bronson
  We're just smoking the furry molecules.
29. JRJoe Rogan
  The ... Just the THC crystals.
30. ABAction Bronson
  Yeah.
23:57 – 34:45
Salvia and DMT: reality-breaking trips, manifestation stories, and “quantum” connections
1. JRJoe Rogan
  Well s- Do you know why they've always done that with sage? Was ... When they're b- when, when they burn sage? Sage is Salvia divinorum.
2. ABAction Bronson
  Oh, I know.
3. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, which a lot of people are not aware of. Like, sage is ... It's a type of sa- Salvia is a type of sage. So salvia, obviously for people who don't know, is a super potent psychedelic that mi- They missed it when they had that Schedule I Act of 1970 where they basically made everything illegal. They missed sage, somehow or another. You used to, you used to be able to buy salvia in a head shop. Like, in places where weed was completely illegal, you could buy a bag of this shit and go to another dimension.
4. ABAction Bronson
  You could definitely buy salvia on Jamaica Avenue right now.
5. JRJoe Rogan
  You still buy it, everywhere?
6. ABAction Bronson
  Yeah.
7. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah. It's wild.
8. ABAction Bronson
  Yeah.
9. JRJoe Rogan
  It's so strong. For people who don't know, salvia is a super potent psychedelic. Like r- like, out of this world. You, you disappear, you go to another place.
10. ABAction Bronson
  It's heavy for- it's heavy for a while. It's like your fucking mind, everything ex- explodes.
11. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
12. ABAction Bronson
  But then comes back like T-2000, where it comes back and melts and... It's like metal for, like, melting metal that broke.
13. JRJoe Rogan
  Mm.
14. ABAction Bronson
  And then it comes back together.
15. JRJoe Rogan
  My friend Ari did it. He did it on a podcast. And when he did it, he said he had a complete different life that he lived for several months. And it only lasted for 10 minutes, but he had several months of life. He made friends, he had relationships, he broke up, lost jo- the whole thing, like, lived, lived lives.
16. ABAction Bronson
  Fuck me.
17. JRJoe Rogan
  And then came out of it and realized he was only gone for 10 minutes, and was like, "What the fuck?" And he's talked about it on other podcasts since, but it was like one of the, he said literally one of the craziest moments of his life. And they filmed him the entire time-
18. ABAction Bronson
  Well, that's good.
19. JRJoe Rogan
  ... he was doing it.
20. ABAction Bronson
  That's good, because you know sometimes when you trip out, you try to remember it.
21. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
22. ABAction Bronson
  But it's never, you're not real- you feel kinda making it up.
23. JRJoe Rogan
  Right, right, right.
24. ABAction Bronson
  You're kinda making it up.
25. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
26. ABAction Bronson
  Because you're so in the moment when it's, uh, y- like I could try and tell people my DMT. I've smoked it too many times to remember one spec- there's one specific, a couple of them, but bro, you know what I mean.
27. JRJoe Rogan
  I do know what you mean.
28. ABAction Bronson
  It's fucking, it's a never-ending story like the big-
29. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
30. ABAction Bronson
  ... fucking white dog.
34:45 – 39:09
DMX tribute and the cost of drugs and fame in rap culture
1. ABAction Bronson
  But drugs are fucked up in general, man. Like, I just wanna say rest in peace to fucking DMX.
2. JRJoe Rogan
  (smacks lips) That's a sad one.
3. ABAction Bronson
  Rest in motherfucking paradise, man. There's, I've-
4. JRJoe Rogan
  Did you see the video when they were getting his body outta the hospital?
5. ABAction Bronson
  Nah.
6. JRJoe Rogan
  It's pretty-
7. ABAction Bronson
  I wanted to tell-
8. JRJoe Rogan
  No, it's pretty amazing.
9. ABAction Bronson
  I want-
10. JRJoe Rogan
  The fans outside-
11. ABAction Bronson
  They were f-
12. JRJoe Rogan
  ... were playing his music while they're driving the car with his body out-
13. ABAction Bronson
  Yeah.
14. JRJoe Rogan
  ... of the hospital. I, I believe it was in White Plains. It's wild.
15. ABAction Bronson
  That's crazy.
16. JRJoe Rogan
  Just, just rabid, filling the streets.
17. ABAction Bronson
  I, I wish I was able to tell him this story I'm about to tell you, 'cause this is fucking real deal, and it's like, he means so much to my family, it's crazy. (laughs) It sounds nuts. Not only did I grow up on fucking DMX, I love DMX, but my wife was in fucking labor for 18 fucking hours, and she had the doula there. I told you they're on some spiritual shit. A motherfucking Peruvian flute playing for 17 fucking hours-
18. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
19. ABAction Bronson
  ... straight. The Peruvian flute music. I wanna, you know the one where-
20. JRJoe Rogan
  What does that sound like?
21. ABAction Bronson
  You, you, they came into my sixth grade class and we made a fucking flute. (whistles)
22. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
23. ABAction Bronson
  17 hours in the f- like the Andes, the ones that... Bro. She starts freaking out. I'm like, "Yo, listen. We have an hour left, or we're gonna have to do a C-section or whatever." And she, "No fucking chance." So, turn the fucking Peruvian flute music off, and I put fucking DMX on.
24. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
25. ABAction Bronson
  Stop, drop. That motherfucker jumped out of her.
26. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
27. ABAction Bronson
  I swear on everything. It's on camera. It's on film. As soon as the Peruvian flute mu- music stopped, DMX came on, he, he fucking heard the dog. (barks)
28. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
29. ABAction Bronson
  And he came out. He just jumped out.
30. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs) That's amazing.
39:09 – 43:04
Rap longevity and icons: Snoop, Ice Cube, Jay-Z mystery age, and Kool G Rap reverence
1. JRJoe Rogan
  And you just, if you get the, the, this, you let these people influence who you are as a person, if you let that in, if you take that in, and then you think about the pressures of fame and maintaining fame... And one of the things about the rap world, in particular, at least until recently, is that like there were, it was a very short-lived fame. And there was something about guys when they got to a certain age where nobody wanted to hear from them anymore.
2. ABAction Bronson
  You're right.
3. JRJoe Rogan
  There was a lot of them like that. Now, now it's changing. Like now, you know, you're seeing like Snoop is the most... He has more longevity-
4. ABAction Bronson
  Man.
5. JRJoe Rogan
  ... and more relevance-
6. ABAction Bronson
  It's unbelievable.
7. JRJoe Rogan
  He's the best at it.
8. ABAction Bronson
  He's so good at being him.
9. JRJoe Rogan
  He's so good at being him.
10. ABAction Bronson
  That's it.
11. JRJoe Rogan
  That's it.
12. ABAction Bronson
  That's what, people love him for being him, and he's him to the fucking max.
13. JRJoe Rogan
  That's it. Yeah, you can't... Everyone knows who Snoop is. He knows who Snoop is. Like, uh, he was the best part, other than Jake Paul's knockout punch.
14. ABAction Bronson
  (blows raspberry)
15. JRJoe Rogan
  He was the best part of that whole pay-per-view thing.
16. ABAction Bronson
  He's funny.
17. JRJoe Rogan
  It was just listening to him talk-
18. ABAction Bronson
  Yeah.
19. JRJoe Rogan
  ... and, and watching him d- you know, do commentary. And then when him and Ice... Who's the, uh, and Too Short, and who was the other dude was with him?
20. JVJamie Vernon
  Uh...
21. JRJoe Rogan
  There was four dudes.
22. JVJamie Vernon
  Ice Cube
23. NANarrator
  Eminem
24. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, they call it Mount Westmore.
25. ABAction Bronson
  Oh, yeah. It's, I think it's Ice Cube, E-40.
26. JRJoe Rogan
  That's it. That's it. That's it. That's it. It was great.
27. ABAction Bronson
  Snoop and Too Short.
28. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, but S- Snoop, and I love Too Short too. I love Ice Cube too.
29. ABAction Bronson
  I mean, they're all amazing.
30. JRJoe Rogan
  But Snoop is-
43:04 – 50:55
Lil Nas X and the art of provocation: branding, executives, and making yourself laugh
1. JRJoe Rogan
  Well, you know what I love right now? Um, I love what Lil Nas X is doing.
2. ABAction Bronson
  (laughs)
3. JRJoe Rogan
  I love how he's freaking everybody out and getting under their skin. (laughs)
4. ABAction Bronson
  Yeah, I mean, he's just-
5. JRJoe Rogan
  His, his fucking latest video-
6. ABAction Bronson
  He's like Lady Gaga.
7. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
8. ABAction Bronson
  He's just shock- it's like shocking shit.
9. JRJoe Rogan
  Well, when he gave Satan a lap dance... Uh, because here's what's happening, man. My kids, when they were young, when, uh, when Old Town Road came out, in their fucking grammar school, they were singing it. They were all singing it in school. Like, kids loved that song. So here's this dude, who's this young, wild, gay dude, who's singing this song with Billy Ray Cyrus, and it becomes this gigantic fucking hit.
10. ABAction Bronson
  (laughs) Billy Ray Cyrus-
11. JRJoe Rogan
  And, and they're-
12. ABAction Bronson
  ... looks fucking crazy.
13. JRJoe Rogan
  ... and then the next thing he comes out with, he's selling sneakers with human blood in them.
14. ABAction Bronson
  (laughs)
15. JRJoe Rogan
  He's giving Satan a lap dance. (laughs)
16. ABAction Bronson
  Oh my God. I'm-
17. JRJoe Rogan
  I-
18. ABAction Bronson
  It's just crazy that I even know about these things, man.
19. JRJoe Rogan
  Everybody got so confused.
20. ABAction Bronson
  Everyone knows.
21. JRJoe Rogan
  I was cheering. I was like, "Yes! (laughs) Yes, I love it!" It was like, "Look, look, look, we gotta flip the switch on this thing. We can't, we can't, we can't have this. We can't have this. We can't have these... I can't be just singing for little kids for the rest of my life."
22. ABAction Bronson
  (laughs)
23. JRJoe Rogan
  "We gotta get, we gotta get crazy."
24. ABAction Bronson
  Fucking Little Nas X, bro.
25. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
26. ABAction Bronson
  Yo, it's fucking unbelievable.
27. JRJoe Rogan
  And, you know, it's the, the, the courage that guy had to do that.
28. ABAction Bronson
  It's-
29. JRJoe Rogan
  Becaus- he had to have a lot of people in his ear telling him, "No, no, no. No, no, no. Listen, we got a big thing going on here, Little Nas X."
30. ABAction Bronson
  Oh my God.
50:55 – 57:14
Internet pile-ons and The Four Agreements: personal conduct, overcommitting, and learning to say no
1. JRJoe Rogan
  But peop- There's ... That's why ... You know The, The Four Agreements? Do you know that, uh ... You ever heard of that book?
2. ABAction Bronson
  Mm-mm.
3. JRJoe Rogan
  I think they made it five, right? It's, uh ... Pu- pull up that book, 'cause it's, it's a really interesting book. And I, I'm gonna say this as a person who's very flawed and I don't always follow these F- Four Agreements, but there's real, there's real value and there's real wisdom in this. Pu- Um, it's uh, Don Miguel Ruiz, and The Four Agreements are: Agreement number one, be impeccable with your word. So, that means like don't say, "Fuck that dude." Even, sometimes I'll say "fuck that dude" just because it's funny, it's a funny thing to say, like someone who's amazing. I'd be like, "Fuck that dude."
4. ABAction Bronson
  Of course.
5. JRJoe Rogan
  "That guy sucks."
6. ABAction Bronson
  Of course.
7. JRJoe Rogan
  Like just, for just as a ... But it's just because I-
8. ABAction Bronson
  Cheeky.
9. JRJoe Rogan
  But everybody knows it's not real.
10. ABAction Bronson
  Mm-hmm.
11. JRJoe Rogan
  I'm being silly. Like, you know I love them.
12. ABAction Bronson
  Yep.
13. JRJoe Rogan
  Or, don't take anything personally. That's agreement number two. It's hard to not take things personally.
14. ABAction Bronson
  Tha- that's, that's rough. That's tough.
15. JRJoe Rogan
  But if you can do that, you will be way better off. You'll be way better off. Number three agreement: Don't make assumptions. Don't assume things. The- These are the valuable agreements in order to live a more harmonious life. And number four, this is my favorite, because this one I do: Always do your best. Now I wouldn't say I do this always, but I, most of the time, do my best. I mean, I do my best as much as I can. I try to honor those agreements. I think ... And there's a new ... What is the fifth agreement?
16. ABAction Bronson
  I always try to do my best, but the other ones are fucking hard.
17. JRJoe Rogan
  The fifth agreement takes us to a deeper level of awareness, the power of the self, and returns to the authenticity we're born with. The fifth agreement takes ... What is it?
18. JVJamie Vernon
  Bye.
19. JRJoe Rogan
  No, there's a fifth, there's a fifth one of those agreements.
20. JVJamie Vernon
  I figured it out.
21. JRJoe Rogan
  Does it just say ... You, but ... Uh, the fifth one: Be skeptical, but learn to listen.
22. ABAction Bronson
  Mm. These are good.
23. JRJoe Rogan
  Beautiful.
24. ABAction Bronson
  These are good.
25. JRJoe Rogan
  That's beautiful.
26. ABAction Bronson
  These are good.
27. JRJoe Rogan
  They're, they're amazing. They're amazing. I like how he revised them.
28. ABAction Bronson
  It's so hard to apply. It's hard to apply. You have to be conscious. You have to be conscious if you're doing it, and not, not vocalize.
29. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
30. ABAction Bronson
  You can maybe think it, but if you're thinking it, are you not applying it?
57:14 – 1:05:11
Vaping risks and the vape-trick rabbit hole: from lung damage to viral ‘magicians’
1. JRJoe Rogan
  That's a problem with a lot of people with COVID, is, uh, people who vaped. You buy cheap vape oil and you don't know how they're making it, and there's a lot of kids that are vaping all the time and they're damaging their lungs.
2. ABAction Bronson
  Bro, if there's one thing I spend money on, is my... (coughs) Is what goes into my lungs, is what this... The hash. I don't give a fuck about much, but I care about hash.
3. JRJoe Rogan
  Hmm. I understand. I'm not even talking about that kind of vape, I'm talking about tobacco vaping.
4. ABAction Bronson
  Oh, tobacco. Yeah, that shit's nasty.
5. JRJoe Rogan
  It is nasty, but it's also dangerous. There's a lot of kids that are out there vaping and they think it's better than cigarette smoking, and they're doing a lot of damage to themselves.
6. ABAction Bronson
  Well, they're doing tricks now. When, when, once you're able to start doing tricks with something, you shouldn't do it.
7. JRJoe Rogan
  What kind of tricks?
8. ABAction Bronson
  Where they fucking blow... They take the smoke, and then they blow it into a big circle, and they jump through it, and they do all...
9. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
10. ABAction Bronson
  You've never seen this shit?
11. JVJamie Vernon
  No.
12. ABAction Bronson
  It's like fucking champion vape fucking ac-
13. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh, no.
14. ABAction Bronson
  ... acrobatics and athletics.
15. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh, no.
16. ABAction Bronson
  It's crazy.
17. JRJoe Rogan
  So like breakdance vaping?
18. ABAction Bronson
  Yeah. Breakdance vaping, fucking... There's this one... I don't know what to call him, but there's this one dude, he's fucking blowing things all over the place, and then he like... Yeah, this fucking guy.
19. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
20. ABAction Bronson
  This fucking... Look at this.
21. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh, this is insane.
22. ABAction Bronson
  What is he doing?
23. JRJoe Rogan
  Whatever he's doing is awesome.
24. ABAction Bronson
  It's awesome, but what is he smoking? What is that?
25. JRJoe Rogan
  Who is this guy? Amazing vape trick-
26. ABAction Bronson
  Yo, he just threw a fucking Hadouken.
27. JRJoe Rogan
  Bro, he's got 24 million videos, or million views on this video.
28. ABAction Bronson
  Yeah. Bro, he just threw a fucking Hadouken with the smoke.
29. JRJoe Rogan
  Wow.
30. ABAction Bronson
  Yeah, you see?
1:05:11 – 1:13:09
New energy hobbies: bodyboarding in malls, fish knockouts, River Monsters, and animal motherhood
1. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs) You, you have more energy now to do shit too. It's like, you'll have more enthusiasm to do shit 'cause your body's healthy.
2. ABAction Bronson
  You're right. You know what? When I was on stage at 300 and whatever pounds, I was still good. My lung capacity was unbelievable.
3. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
4. ABAction Bronson
  But I would be chilling in a room smoking all day, sitting there eating. I wouldn't be active. There would be nothing else going on. Now, I fucking want to do things. I'm bringing my body board to Portugal when I go to the show 'cause I'm going to fucking shred. There's no doubt about that. Like, I'm in the ocean when it's snowing. Like-
5. JRJoe Rogan
  Freezing cold. I saw that.
6. ABAction Bronson
  I don't ... My man fucking Will, my man Will Scooting, we ... He has this spot in the American Dream Mall in, um, in Jersey. It's like that mall in Minnesota, the big one-
7. JRJoe Rogan
  Uh-huh.
8. ABAction Bronson
  ... with the roller coasters and shit. There's a water park in there.
9. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
10. ABAction Bronson
  Look at me catching shade right there.
11. JRJoe Rogan
  That's crazy.
12. ABAction Bronson
  That's fu- I'm fucking tubular right there.
13. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh, that's crazy.
14. ABAction Bronson
  That's what tubular is.
15. JRJoe Rogan
  That's in a mall?
16. ABAction Bronson
  That's in a fucking mall.
17. JRJoe Rogan
  In New Jersey?
18. ABAction Bronson
  In New Jersey in a fucking mall.
19. JRJoe Rogan
  New Jersey doesn't get enough respect.
20. ABAction Bronson
  After hours. After hours. That was probably, like, 11:00 PM.
21. JRJoe Rogan
  New Jersey just ... People think of New Jersey in a very negative way. It's not, it's not fair.
22. ABAction Bronson
  Oh, yeah, watch that one. Whoop.
23. JRJoe Rogan
  Look at this.
24. ABAction Bronson
  Scoop. Ooh. The whole point is just going, is letting the wave go over your head.
25. JRJoe Rogan
  You think you're eventually gonna move to surfing?
26. ABAction Bronson
  Nah. I'm, I'm not made to stand up, I'm made to lay.
27. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
28. ABAction Bronson
  Yeah, I'm made to go headfirst, man. I'm headfirst.
29. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, but you're doing all these other-
30. ABAction Bronson
  I'm like a fucking crocodile.

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Rogan congratulates Bronson’s transformation and how the weight loss started

Pandemic catalyst: the airport day, the scale shock, and the reality of “fat shaming”

Functional training obsession: Onnit Gym, Jon Wolf, mobility, and finding the right coach

Food as reward: park steaks, cooking by feel, and building an olive oil brand

Health rebounds: energy, libido jokes, training tools, and fixing Bronson’s shoulder

Hash vaping, ritual, and strange habits: from kief nostalgia to OCD and “sage cleansing”

Salvia and DMT: reality-breaking trips, manifestation stories, and “quantum” connections

DMX tribute and the cost of drugs and fame in rap culture

Rap longevity and icons: Snoop, Ice Cube, Jay-Z mystery age, and Kool G Rap reverence

Lil Nas X and the art of provocation: branding, executives, and making yourself laugh

Internet pile-ons and The Four Agreements: personal conduct, overcommitting, and learning to say no

Vaping risks and the vape-trick rabbit hole: from lung damage to viral ‘magicians’

New energy hobbies: bodyboarding in malls, fish knockouts, River Monsters, and animal motherhood

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