Joe Rogan Experience #1644 - Ethan Suplee

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   (drum music) Joe Rogan podcast,…

   1. ESEthan Suplee0:00

      (drum music) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

   2. NANarrator0:04

      The Joe Rogan Experience.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music) So what's up, man? Dude, you, if I didn't know who you were, and I ran into you, I would have no idea that you're the same guy.

   4. ESEthan Suplee0:21

      It's crazy.

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:22

      You're a fucking completely different human.

   6. ESEthan Suplee0:25

      Yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:25

      You went from this guy that looked like you were really in bad shape to a guy who looks like a guy I would avoid in jujitsu.

   8. ESEthan Suplee0:31

      (laughs)

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:31

      I'd be like, "Fuck that guy. Let me get away from him. He's too big."

   10. ESEthan Suplee0:34

       (laughs)

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:34

       You look fucking great, man.

   12. ESEthan Suplee0:35

       That's awesome. This is the greatest compliment I've ever gotten.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:38

       (laughs)

   14. ESEthan Suplee0:38

       Thank you very much. By the way, all I want is to, to look like a big dude who's not just gigantic and fat. That's all I want.

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:46

       Dude, you look like a gorilla. You look like a dangerous human being. Like, how did you do it?

   16. ESEthan Suplee0:51

       Uh, well, over the past 20 years, I've gone back and forth with dieting. I've g- I've lost a shit load of weight. I've gained a shit load of weight back. Um, how did I do it? Uh, I think that the, the thing that I've done that has been sustainable is undoing kind of... Y- y- look, a lot of diets come in and say, "Just do this and you'll lose weight." But we're not focused at all on how we got to whatever point we were at that we consider non-optimal that we wanna change. And so, uh, undoing the bad habits that I had that I would associate with allowing myself to get up to 550 pounds is really more important than anything that I could say, "This is what I did to lose weight." Does that make sense?

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:40

       Yes. Yes. Um, so when did the process start? So you kind of went back and forth.

   18. ESEthan Suplee1:47

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:47

       But you've obviously been on a very steady course for how long now?

   20. ESEthan Suplee1:51

       20 years.

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:52

       20 years.

   22. ESEthan Suplee1:52

       Uh, 19 years. 2002 was the first time I s- thought I really wanna change my life, and I started then.

   23. JRJoe Rogan2:02

       And how much weight have you lost since then?

   24. ESEthan Suplee2:05

       2002, I went from 550, I did a liquid diet for two months and lost 80 pounds. That 80 pounds, I've never dipped back into. But so I was 450, and I went down to close to just under 300, then went back up to 400, then went down to 200, then back up to 350. And for the past five years, I've been around the weight I'm at now. So I've, I've really gotten that under control.

   25. JRJoe Rogan2:39

       And what are you at right now?

   26. ESEthan Suplee2:41

       270.

   27. JRJoe Rogan2:41

       That is incredible. That is, that is so incredible. So you've lost more than 200 pounds?

   28. ESEthan Suplee2:49

       Oh, yeah, yeah. I mean, I-

   29. JRJoe Rogan2:50

       Solid.

   30. ESEthan Suplee2:51

       ... I've lost 200 pounds a couple of times.
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   Yeah. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan15:00

      is that you have to eat.

   2. ESEthan Suplee15:01

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan15:01

      You don't have to gamble.

   4. ESEthan Suplee15:03

      Right. (laughs) Or do drugs.

   5. JRJoe Rogan15:04

      Do y- Right. But do you know anyone who's a gambling addict?

   6. ESEthan Suplee15:06

      Yes.

   7. JRJoe Rogan15:07

      It's really fascinating because it is a drug.

   8. ESEthan Suplee15:09

      Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan15:10

      But it's a weird drug. It's a drug that your brain makes.

   10. ESEthan Suplee15:12

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan15:12

       Like, uh, I, uh, didn't know anyone who was a gambling addict until I started playing pool. And then, uh, I was hanging around this pool hall when I was, uh, like, 22, 23 years old. It's a place called White Plains Billiards in, uh, in White Plains, New York. Executive Billiards, rather, in White Plains, New York. And Executive Billiards was a full on degenerate pool hall. It was just guys that were gambling, a lot of guys who lived in flop houses. They always had like $10 to their name and they would bet that $10 and then try to bum money off people. I mean, and it was, as a young guy who came from sports, you know, came from martial arts, and I was, you know, I was like goal oriented and I was, I was trying to be very disciplined in my life, to see these guys live like this, I was like, "Wow, this is crazy." I just enjoyed the game of pool, so I was trying to learn this game. And these guys that were really into it were also degenerate gamblers. And, and almost all of them, I mean, to a man, they were degenerate gamblers. And to watch these people get jazzed up for gambling and for bets, they would bet on anything, man. Raindrops going down a window pane, they would gamble on-

   12. ESEthan Suplee16:21

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan16:21

       ... which drop. Like-

   14. ESEthan Suplee16:22

       You'd see their eyes glaze over a little bit.

   15. JRJoe Rogan16:24

       Oh my God, they just wanted that fix. "Yes! Fuck yeah! Fuck yeah!"

   16. ESEthan Suplee16:28

       (laughs)

   17. JRJoe Rogan16:28

       And they'd win. I mean, crazy. They would gamble on cards, they would roll dice, they would do anything. They would gamble on shots, make a shot, set a shot up. They would, they would give people crazy games. But it is 100% a drug. But it's a drug you can avoid.

   18. ESEthan Suplee16:42

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan16:43

       Just don't go to the pool hall. T- get... Talk to a counselor. It seems like an easier one to get away from. But the food one's crazy.

   20. ESEthan Suplee16:50

       Yeah. You have to eat.

   21. JRJoe Rogan16:51

       Because you have to eat.

   22. ESEthan Suplee16:52

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan16:52

       You have to.

   24. ESEthan Suplee16:53

       There was a time when, uh... And it's so bizarre that it came out and they modeled it after Soylent Green, which ultimately turned out to be people at the end of it.

   25. JRJoe Rogan17:01

       Yeah.

   26. ESEthan Suplee17:01

       Spoiler alert for anybody who hasn't seen that movie. Um-

   27. JRJoe Rogan17:04

       It's from the 60s, right?

   28. ESEthan Suplee17:05

       It's a long time ago.

   29. JRJoe Rogan17:06

       Thank you.

   30. ESEthan Suplee17:06

       Yes. We haven't ruined anything hopefully, but uh, there's a Soylent drink which is pretty bland, but they have all... And they design it to like, here's my weight and height and activity level, and they give you these drinks and you basically stop eating. Um, and I... When I heard about that, I was like, "Fuck." 'Cause I'm sober and I, and I totally understand this kind of black and white, like-
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   It's- it's awful. It's…

   1. JRJoe Rogan30:00

      a day, I feel like such a fucking loser.

   2. ESEthan Suplee30:02

      It's- it's awful. It's awful for me too. Um, we arrive at- at- at a day and age where you can be a professional video game player, you can have all your food left on your doorstep. Um, have you watched television recently?

   3. JRJoe Rogan30:19

      Yeah.

   4. ESEthan Suplee30:20

      I- I- I hadn't watched television, just like network television, in years.

   5. JRJoe Rogan30:23

      Oh, no, I don't watch that.

   6. ESEthan Suplee30:25

      You put it on, the commercials are all medication and food.

   7. JRJoe Rogan30:28

      Oh yeah, that's right. Yeah.

   8. ESEthan Suplee30:29

      It's fucking crazy. Like-

   9. JRJoe Rogan30:30

      The medication commercials freak me out.

   10. ESEthan Suplee30:32

       Yeah. And there's so many-

   11. JRJoe Rogan30:34

       Talk to your doctor.

   12. ESEthan Suplee30:34

       ... like, I didn't even know, like, there were these problems that existed-

   13. JRJoe Rogan30:38

       I know.

   14. ESEthan Suplee30:38

       ... that have medicines now. Like I- I- shit you never heard of. Um-

   15. JRJoe Rogan30:42

       It's- it seems unethical and it seems weird that it's allowed. Like, for sure ... You know we're only one of two countries on planet Earth that allows that?

   16. ESEthan Suplee30:51

       I didn't know that. What's the other country?

   17. JRJoe Rogan30:53

       New Zealand.

   18. ESEthan Suplee30:54

       Wow.

   19. JRJoe Rogan30:54

       United States... New Zealand's doing way better than us, by the way.

   20. ESEthan Suplee30:57

       Right.

   21. JRJoe Rogan30:58

       (laughs) I think they're brushing it off a little easier, but-

   22. ESEthan Suplee31:00

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan31:00

       It just seems wrong. Like, your doctor should be the one telling you if you need fucking medication and you should go to your doctor, 'cause psychosomatic disorders are real.

   24. ESEthan Suplee31:10

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan31:10

       You know? And also this idea that watching something on television in a- in a commercial and you're like, "Oh, I have all those problems." Real simple, real clean, "Talk to your doctor." "I'm gonna go talk to my doctor about this."

   26. ESEthan Suplee31:21

       Right.

   27. JRJoe Rogan31:21

       Like, what about hypochondriacs, man?

   28. ESEthan Suplee31:23

       (laughs) Right.

   29. JRJoe Rogan31:23

       What about crazy people?

   30. ESEthan Suplee31:24

       Yeah.
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   (laughs) …

   1. ESEthan Suplee45:00

      a, there's a cookie shop, there's a bakery in, in West Hollywood that does gluten-free pastries. And then I was just like, "Oh my God, they're speaking to me."

   2. JRJoe Rogan45:09

      (laughs)

   3. ESEthan Suplee45:09

      And I would go there every day and I would eat muffins and cakes and shit, and I'd go, "It's gluten-free." And I would gain weight and I'd be like, "What the fuck is the problem here?"

   4. JRJoe Rogan45:17

      Sugar.

   5. ESEthan Suplee45:17

      There was no point that I was ever like ... It's gluten for me has nothing to do with it. Now, if you have celiac or Hashimoto's or something where gluten can mess with you, yeah, don't eat it. But, you know, there's so many trendy diets that come out and it's like you have a group of people that has failed so many times that they're d- desperate to just tell me the right thing to do.

   6. JRJoe Rogan45:43

      Yeah.

   7. ESEthan Suplee45:43

      Just sell me that. It ... Tell me gluten, tell me I'm allergic to gluten and I'll give it up, and if that will do it, you know?

   8. JRJoe Rogan45:50

      Well, you know what actually has low gluten but is fucking de- delicious is sourdough bread.

   9. ESEthan Suplee45:54

      Yeah.

   10. JRJoe Rogan45:55

       Which is crazy, which is kind of the best tasting bread.

   11. ESEthan Suplee45:58

       I love it, yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan45:58

       My buddy Tom Papa makes sourdough bread and whenever he comes over he brings me some. Jesus, we make a deal, like I give him elk meat, he gives me sourdough bread. His fucking sourdough bread is so goddamn good.

   13. ESEthan Suplee46:11

       Yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan46:11

       You put butter on it, just the sourdough bread and butter-

   15. ESEthan Suplee46:13

       It's incredible.

   16. JRJoe Rogan46:15

       ... like ah. Or I'll put Nutella on it if I really wanna go off the rails.

   17. ESEthan Suplee46:18

       (laughs)

   18. JRJoe Rogan46:19

       It's so good.

   19. ESEthan Suplee46:20

       It's so good.

   20. JRJoe Rogan46:21

       But sourdough bread, something about the starter and something about the way, you know, there's the yeast in the bread or I don't know.

   21. ESEthan Suplee46:27

       I think the gluten consumes itself and then it becomes molecularly something else before you bake it.

   22. JRJoe Rogan46:33

       Yeah.

   23. ESEthan Suplee46:34

       When, when it's an actual, uh, fermented bread.

   24. JRJoe Rogan46:37

       Right. And it's more delicious-

   25. ESEthan Suplee46:39

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan46:39

       ... which is crazy.

   27. ESEthan Suplee46:40

       Yeah, it's fantastic.

   28. JRJoe Rogan46:41

       It's so good.

   29. ESEthan Suplee46:42

       Yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan46:42

       Yeah.
5. 1:00:00 – 1:13:54

   But even this pig…

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:00:00

      hanging from the legs, like, right there. Yeah. See, that's a bit of a perspective trick-... because I think the pig is several... It's like if you ho- catch a big bass, you do this. You hold it in front of you with your arms extended and it makes it look bigger.

   2. ESEthan Suplee1:00:16

      But even this pig going into the dumpster, that's-

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:00:18

      That's a fucking legit giant pig-

   4. ESEthan Suplee1:00:20

      ... that's a big pig.

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:00:20

      ... man. I don't give a fuck. That's a legit giant pig. Look how little his feet are. Imagine that was a man.

   6. ESEthan Suplee1:00:27

      God-

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:00:27

      Little, tiny-ass little-

   8. ESEthan Suplee1:00:28

      That's in Hong Kong, too.

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:00:29

      ... little girl feet and giant body.

   10. ESEthan Suplee1:00:32

       (laughs)

   11. JRJoe Rogan1:00:32

       Look at the size of his feet. That's so weird. Um, Hogzilla, though. Let me see, go, go to that photo again, of the... Whoa. Fuck, that-

   12. NANarrator1:00:40

       Like, in someone's yard?

   13. JRJoe Rogan1:00:41

       Alabama. That's in someone's yard. Look at the size of that thing.

   14. ESEthan Suplee1:00:44

       That looks like one of those giant cows.

   15. JRJoe Rogan1:00:47

       That's so... Look at his balls.

   16. NANarrator1:00:48

       That's what's up, too.

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:00:49

       (laughs) Holy fuck. And Tom thi- Tom thinks he cums a lot. Imagine what that pig does.

   18. NANarrator1:00:55

       Oh my God.

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:00:56

       Jesus Christ. I can't believe how big that thing is in that guy's yard. Well, that's hard to tell. That might be little. That's a sow, too. But the other one was enormous.

   20. NANarrator1:01:05

       It, it looks like the same... It's, uh...

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:01:08

       No, it's different.

   22. NANarrator1:01:09

       Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:01:09

       It's definitely different.

   24. NANarrator1:01:10

       Yeah, yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:01:10

       The, you see the, how the head is bigger?

   26. NANarrator1:01:12

       Yeah, yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:01:13

       Yeah, that's a male. But the balls, the balls on that thing, wandering through someone's yard. But that photo with, it's covered in mud? That one in the middle? Yeah, where it's hanging? See, that is the, that's the super controversial Hogzilla photo.

   28. ESEthan Suplee1:01:25

       'Cause he could be standing a few feet back and then-

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:01:27

       Yeah.

   30. ESEthan Suplee1:01:27

       ... the thing just looks gigantic.

Episode duration: 3:16:03