Joe Rogan Experience #1652 - Anthony Cumia

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast,…

   1. NANarrator0:00

      (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience.

   2. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (rock music plays) Young Anthony Cumia.

   3. ACAnthony Cumia0:15

      (laughs)

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:16

      My friend, good to see you.

   5. ACAnthony Cumia0:18

      Everyone calls me that, Young Anthony Cumia.

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:20

      That... Well, he's Young Jamie so you must be Young Anthony.

   7. ACAnthony Cumia0:22

      No.

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:22

      Dude, uh, there is not a fucking show on Earth that inspired me to do a podcast more than Opie & Anthony. That is a fact.

   9. ACAnthony Cumia0:30

      I, I love hearing that.

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:32

       It is a fact.

   11. ACAnthony Cumia0:32

       And, you know, uh, uh, to be, uh, part of the, the cycle that you went through in your head to build this empire that you now have, uh, I'm honored.

   12. JRJoe Rogan0:42

       It's 100% true. And it's not just that, it's also you when you were doing Live from the Compound.

   13. ACAnthony Cumia0:47

       (laughs) Yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan0:47

       When you were doing it from your house in the basement with a machine gun singing karaoke.

   15. ACAnthony Cumia0:51

       (laughs) With a hobby. Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan0:52

       With a green screen behind you. And it was like, "He's having so much fun." Jamie, do we have a bottle opener? This, this is... I thought this was a regular one. Is it? I don't think so. I can open a bottle with anything, by the way. I can open one, I can open one with a lighter. I can do that.

   17. ACAnthony Cumia1:04

       Yeah, a lighter?

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:05

       Yeah.

   19. ACAnthony Cumia1:05

       My dad taught me with a, a belt buckle when I was out in California, um, learning to be a man-

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:11

       This...

   21. ACAnthony Cumia1:11

       ... under my father's tutelage.

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:12

       This is from Phil's buddy. What was Phil's buddy's name? The guy that, uh... Phil Demers? His buddy who's, like, a big time beer freak. This is... You gotta try some of this. It's very interesting. It's beer, but it does not taste like regular beer. But it's very good.

   23. ACAnthony Cumia1:28

       And I'm a... I slum it all the time with just, uh, Bud's. Um-

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:32

       Yeah, I mean-

   25. ACAnthony Cumia1:33

       People are like, "Oh, Budweiser." It's like, there's nothing better. You could pound a case of Bud sitting, like, by a, out by the pool. It's got... But then occasionally-

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:42

       Cheers.

   27. ACAnthony Cumia1:42

       ... try something else. Cheers, Joe.

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:44

       Cheers. Good to see you, my friend.

   29. ACAnthony Cumia1:45

       Good to see you. Good to be in Austin.

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:46

       Good to be here. Mm.
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   Yeah. …

   1. ACAnthony Cumia15:00

      to do what they do anymore, because now you're fucking up their sales in the burger industry. And you know, Zappas owned a fucking radio station.

   2. JRJoe Rogan15:08

      Yeah.

   3. ACAnthony Cumia15:09

      And he loved when his radio station got ratings. That was all it was to it. Now, it's all a conglomerate of bullshit.

   4. JRJoe Rogan15:18

      As things get big, they get... When they get bigger, things generally get more complicated and you lose any freedom. You lose any of the magic.

   5. ACAnthony Cumia15:27

      Yep.

   6. JRJoe Rogan15:27

      One of the best things that happened with this podcast, like in, in this weird journey from doing it in my, uh, my spare bedroom to doing it in a weird studio-

   7. ACAnthony Cumia15:41

      (laughs)

   8. JRJoe Rogan15:41

      ... to, to... All the way to Spotify, is this is the fucking show.

   9. ACAnthony Cumia15:46

      Yeah.

   10. JRJoe Rogan15:46

       This... It's a skeleton crew. And there's some people behi- They're like, uh, "I have a manager," and then there's some people that like argue with her.

   11. ACAnthony Cumia15:54

       (laughs) Yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan15:54

       And I don't l- pay attention. I go, "Are we all right?" They go, "Uh..."

   13. ACAnthony Cumia15:57

       Yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan15:58

       "I'm not, I'm not listening."

   15. ACAnthony Cumia15:58

       (laughs)

   16. JRJoe Rogan15:59

       So I'm never involved in meetings. I don't, I don't have any conversations with advertisers. I have no conversations with suits. Spotify has never-

   17. ACAnthony Cumia16:06

       Wow.

   18. JRJoe Rogan16:06

       ... said a goddamn thing to me.

   19. ACAnthony Cumia16:08

       So good.

   20. JRJoe Rogan16:08

       They're amazing.

   21. ACAnthony Cumia16:10

       Isn't that great?

   22. JRJoe Rogan16:10

       They're fucking great. They don't say shit. And I tested it too, like when I brought Alex Jones on.

   23. ACAnthony Cumia16:15

       Yes.

   24. JRJoe Rogan16:16

       I was like, "Let's see. Let's see. You guys talk a lot of shit. Let's see."

   25. ACAnthony Cumia16:19

       Fluoride. Fluoride turns the frogs gay.

   26. JRJoe Rogan16:22

       Yeah. Well it was-

   27. ACAnthony Cumia16:22

       And you're like, "Oh, okay."

   28. JRJoe Rogan16:23

       It wasn't f- Was it fluoride? No, it was-

   29. ACAnthony Cumia16:25

       I think fluoride.

   30. JRJoe Rogan16:25

       It's some other stuff.
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   Holy shit. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan30:00

      The message goes through.That message goes through, okay, so let me try to send it again. Try to send it again. No, it wouldn't send. I'm like, "Oh my God, give me your email address." So I- I had to get-

   2. ACAnthony Cumia30:08

      Holy shit.

   3. JRJoe Rogan30:09

      ... his email address. He gave me his email address. I sent it to him through email.

   4. ACAnthony Cumia30:11

      So there's an algorithm that's finding these words?

   5. JRJoe Rogan30:13

      Exact- It's not words, it's a specific video. It's a specific-

   6. ACAnthony Cumia30:17

      Oh, a video-

   7. JRJoe Rogan30:17

      ... link.

   8. ACAnthony Cumia30:18

      ... itself. Okay, all right.

   9. JRJoe Rogan30:18

      Yeah, so it was a link to this video itself. Someone had reported it, or it had been deemed not worthy for sharing. But it's a doctor, it's an actual medical doctor-

   10. ACAnthony Cumia30:27

       That didn't seem to matter.

   11. JRJoe Rogan30:27

       ... who treats patients-

   12. ACAnthony Cumia30:29

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan30:29

       ... who's discussing why ivermectin works, the- the effectiveness of ivermectin, and all of the success that he's had with his clients. But what-

   14. ACAnthony Cumia30:37

       Wrong science.

   15. JRJoe Rogan30:37

       ... what he was saying though, that- wh- which, where it gets disturbing is he was saying that the reason why this is n- so controversial is because it, you can't fund vaccines when there's a, an effective treatment.

   16. ACAnthony Cumia30:49

       Mm-hmm.

   17. JRJoe Rogan30:49

       'Cause like then there's no, there's no incentive.

   18. ACAnthony Cumia30:53

       Right.

   19. JRJoe Rogan30:54

       And I don't know if that's why. I think more likely there's people that are, uh, that are in social media that are doing these, uh, that are in charge of what they censor and not censor. They think they're doing the right thing. In their eyes, they're stopping people from promoting harmful-

   20. ACAnthony Cumia31:10

       But-

   21. JRJoe Rogan31:10

       ... propaganda and misinformation.

   22. ACAnthony Cumia31:12

       But isn't that, um, you know, you could go back to the classic, there were a lot of people that thought they were doing the right thing in history. (laughs)

   23. JRJoe Rogan31:18

       Yeah.

   24. ACAnthony Cumia31:18

       You know, it's-

   25. JRJoe Rogan31:18

       Exactly.

   26. ACAnthony Cumia31:19

       Uh-

   27. JRJoe Rogan31:19

       And that's Jordan Peterson's point.

   28. ACAnthony Cumia31:21

       Yeah, yeah. I love Jordan.

   29. JRJoe Rogan31:22

       I love him.

   30. ACAnthony Cumia31:23

       My chick, my chick actually turned me onto Jordan Peterson. And, uh, I watch him now, and I just, I kind of feel bad for him. (laughs) He seems so, like, beaten down-
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   Y- you also think…

   1. ACAnthony Cumia45:00

      now you have to sustain it, uh, and that's a whole 'nother thing, so yeah.

   2. JRJoe Rogan45:05

      Y- you also think about, like, the, the... Y- there's a hierarchy of rich people. You know, you have a million dollars, but Bobby's got five million, that fucking piece of shit. And then, you know, you got like, well, well, Billy's cousin's a billionaire.

   3. ACAnthony Cumia45:17

      (laughs) Who is this guy? Fuck, dude.

   4. JRJoe Rogan45:17

      Holy shit, he's got 1,000 million? Like, that's what, you know?

   5. ACAnthony Cumia45:21

      That's so funny. I swear, it wasn't long after... Me, me and Opie signed, like, an insanely lucrative deal with Infinity Broadcasting back in, uh, I think it was 2000...

   6. JRJoe Rogan45:34

      You want a cigar?

   7. ACAnthony Cumia45:36

      Uh-

   8. JRJoe Rogan45:36

      You smoke cigars?

   9. ACAnthony Cumia45:37

      I don't smoke cigars. I always feel like it's weird 'cause I wanna inhale 'cause that's like-

   10. JRJoe Rogan45:42

       Oh, okay.

   11. ACAnthony Cumia45:42

       ... smoking to me. So you kinda just let it linger-

   12. JRJoe Rogan45:46

       All right.

   13. ACAnthony Cumia45:46

       ... in your mouth. I've smoked cigars before. Why? You got a good one?

   14. JRJoe Rogan45:48

       Oh, yeah.

   15. ACAnthony Cumia45:49

       Are they good?

   16. JRJoe Rogan45:50

       They're good, yeah.

   17. ACAnthony Cumia45:51

       'Cause I hear Cubans-

   18. JRJoe Rogan45:52

       I don't need-

   19. ACAnthony Cumia45:52

       ... aren't even the good cigars anymore.

   20. JRJoe Rogan45:53

       I don't know. You'd have to talk to Bobby Kelly about that. He knows more than I do.

   21. ACAnthony Cumia45:56

       Bobby Kelly.

   22. JRJoe Rogan45:57

       I just feel like once we start drinking, I usually smoke a cigar.

   23. ACAnthony Cumia45:59

       I did his... I'll smoke a cigar with you though.

   24. JRJoe Rogan46:01

       Look at you.

   25. ACAnthony Cumia46:02

       Wh- why wouldn't I?

   26. JRJoe Rogan46:03

       Why wouldn't you?

   27. ACAnthony Cumia46:03

       We're here on the Joe Rogan Experience. Humidor...

   28. JRJoe Rogan46:07

       I interrupted you again.

   29. ACAnthony Cumia46:08

       No, it's fine. You, you have such a man place here. This is a dude fucking place.

   30. JRJoe Rogan46:15

       (laughs) It's not as duty as the last place 'cause I don't have the gym, but I've-
5. 1:00:00 – 1:10:54

   Can you get a…

   1. ACAnthony Cumia1:00:00

      Unless you cause an accident maybe. Let me say that.

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:00:04

      Can you get a DUI riding a horse? (laughs) Riding a horse drunk on public-

   3. ACAnthony Cumia1:00:09

      Wow.

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:00:09

      ... roads in California violates the law. Of course it does. California gets rid of everything fun. You can't even go outside without a mask on.

   5. ACAnthony Cumia1:00:15

      The People versus Fong? (laughs) That's hilarious.

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:00:18

      So some dude named Fong was trying to fucking have a good time on his horse.

   7. ACAnthony Cumia1:00:22

      (laughs)

   8. JRJoe Rogan1:00:22

      Have a couple of brewskis-

   9. ACAnthony Cumia1:00:24

      (laughs)

   10. JRJoe Rogan1:00:24

       ... ride around. The People versus Fong. Imagine forever horse driving while drunk is connected to your last name. You're like-

   11. ACAnthony Cumia1:00:31

       To your last name. It's the law.

   12. JRJoe Rogan1:00:31

       ... "Come on, I'm the first guy? Me?"

   13. ACAnthony Cumia1:00:33

       You did it. (laughs)

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:00:35

       How many people were riding horses drunk before this Fong-

   15. ACAnthony Cumia1:00:37

       40% of it.

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:00:37

       ... fella came along? Poor guy.

   17. ACAnthony Cumia1:00:39

       Poor son of a bitch, Fong.

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:00:40

       But that's kind of crazy that it's this, it's like a legal precedent. It's connected to this one dude.

   19. ACAnthony Cumia1:00:45

       Imagine that you're just... (clicks tongue)

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:00:47

       Yeah.

   21. ACAnthony Cumia1:00:47

       Whoop, whoop, whoo.

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:00:48

       Yeah.

   23. ACAnthony Cumia1:00:49

       Like, what the fuck?

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:00:50

       Well, you gotta- you gotta make sure you have cowboy boots on too. A lot of people don't know cowboy boots are designed to slip on and off because your feet get stuck in the stirrups.

   25. ACAnthony Cumia1:00:59

       Oh, yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:00:59

       And if the horse goes crazy, the boots just slip off-

   27. ACAnthony Cumia1:01:02

       Got to get that outta there.

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:01:03

       ... and then you fall out and you're okay. You don't get dragged to your death.

   29. ACAnthony Cumia1:01:05

       Yeah, yeah.We got thrown off a lot of horses back in those days. Like, it was-

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:01:09

       (sighs)

Episode duration: 3:03:38