Joe Rogan Experience #1677 - Tim Dillon

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast,…

   1. NANarrator0:00

      (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

   2. NANarrator0:04

      The Joe Rogan Experience.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (instrumental music plays) How you doing?

   4. TDTim Dillon0:15

      How are you?

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:15

      I'm wonderful. How are you?

   6. TDTim Dillon0:16

      Thank you for having me.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:17

      I didn't know you have no caffeine.

   8. TDTim Dillon0:19

      No caffeine, uh, for years.

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:21

      How many years?

   10. TDTim Dillon0:23

       About two.

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:25

       What is that like?

   12. TDTim Dillon0:26

       Um, you sleep better.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:28

       That's what I hear.

   14. TDTim Dillon0:29

       Yeah. I was drinking coffee in the morning and then having to... I would drink a cup at, like, 4:00. And I would drink a, a cup at 4:00. That would keep me up till 3:00 AM every night.

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:40

       Mm.

   16. TDTim Dillon0:41

       Yeah. So I had to stop, 'cause I, I'm an addict. I have addictive personality, and anything can become habitual.

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:50

       Yeah.

   18. TDTim Dillon0:50

       So I had to be careful.

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:52

       I think I'm an addict too.

   20. TDTim Dillon0:53

       Well, you control it better than most.

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:56

       Yeah, but it's the same, it's the same thing, like-

   22. TDTim Dillon0:58

       You are the, you would be the definition of a high-functioning addict.

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:01

       This has 300 milligrams of caffeine.

   24. TDTim Dillon1:03

       Now, what does that do?

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:04

       (laughs)

   26. TDTim Dillon1:04

       A- when you drink that, how do you feel?

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:06

       Sleep like a baby.

   28. TDTim Dillon1:07

       Really?

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:08

       I could go to sleep under this table. (laughs)

   30. TDTim Dillon1:09

       Interesting. (laughs)
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   Yeah. …

   1. TDTim Dillon15:00

      I'm attacked." And, you know, the reality is, real mental illness, you don't get a comedy special, you don't get a profile in Rolling Stone, you get locked up.

   2. JRJoe Rogan15:09

      Yeah.

   3. TDTim Dillon15:09

      Truly. Because you're a danger to yourself and others, which my mother is. And I see this and I go, "This is not people that are operating with full use of all of their faculties. Something is wrong."

   4. JRJoe Rogan15:21

      Something's wrong, but it's wrong in a mild way where they can justify this-

   5. TDTim Dillon15:25

      Yes.

   6. JRJoe Rogan15:25

      ... weird thing, especially at this time in society-

   7. TDTim Dillon15:28

      Right.

   8. JRJoe Rogan15:29

      ... where we'll tolerate this.

   9. TDTim Dillon15:29

      We'll tolerate it.

   10. JRJoe Rogan15:30

       Not just tolerate it, we'll encourage it.

   11. TDTim Dillon15:32

       It'll be encouraged.

   12. JRJoe Rogan15:33

       I think people are gonna be transracial. I think in the next few years-

   13. TDTim Dillon15:37

       Yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan15:37

       ... transracialism is gonna be, like, fully embraced, and then we're gonna have Black folks on our side 'cause they're gonna go-

   15. TDTim Dillon15:43

       Right.

   16. JRJoe Rogan15:44

       ... "Hey."

   17. TDTim Dillon15:45

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan15:45

       Now this is, this is crazy.

   19. TDTim Dillon15:46

       This is too much. Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan15:46

       This is crazy. All this stuff about trans women-

   21. TDTim Dillon15:49

       Right.

   22. JRJoe Rogan15:49

       ... competing in the Olympics.

   23. TDTim Dillon15:51

       Right.

   24. JRJoe Rogan15:52

       That, that wasn't as bothersome.

   25. TDTim Dillon15:54

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan15:54

       D- cr- uh, J Chappelle has a fucking brilliant bit about it.

   27. TDTim Dillon15:57

       About that.

   28. JRJoe Rogan15:57

       I don't wanna give away the bit-

   29. TDTim Dillon15:58

       Yeah, of course.

   30. JRJoe Rogan15:58

       ... but he's got a, an amazing bit about it.
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   In what way? …

   1. TDTim Dillon30:00

      real estate agents were like, "Yeah, it's bad." They go, they go, "I've got to be very honest with you." They go, "It's very bad."

   2. JRJoe Rogan30:05

      In what way?

   3. TDTim Dillon30:07

      They said that the violence has gone up, crime has gone up. Now everybody kinda has a story about somebody that's been, you know, that somebody got followed to their car, you know. Somebody got robbed. There was an incident of violence. Somebody, somebody exposed themself to somebody. Like, it's... These things are all increasing. These numbers are going up. There's a lot of mental illness, drug addiction in a, a lot of the, you know, unhoused populations of people. And unfortunately, that is creating a dangerous environment for a lot of people. And nobody wants to talk about that, and people wanna say that it's like, um, you know, whatever it is, it's hateful to... And it's... Listen, nobody wants homeless, nobody wants people to be, uh, on the street and insane, but there are a percentage of those people... I'm sure the vast majority of them are peaceful, but a per- but maybe not. But a percentage of them are, you know, engaging in criminal acts that are making other people unsafe. And all of the homicide rates in major cities have gone up in an unprecedented way.

   4. JRJoe Rogan31:08

      Yeah.

   5. TDTim Dillon31:08

      Like, it's... You know. And the people that are victims of that are living in these cities. They're poor people, they take public transportation, they're vulnerable, they're elderly, and no one cares. And if you call that out, they're like, "Oh, fuck you, Rush Limbaugh," whatever.

   6. JRJoe Rogan31:23

      Yeah.

   7. TDTim Dillon31:23

      I'm like, "Hey, guys-... it is what it is. These are facts and the realities that people are paying the price for those are people that are not you. They-

   8. JRJoe Rogan31:31

      I saw a tweet the other day, it was a hilarious tweet.

   9. TDTim Dillon31:34

      Yeah.

   10. JRJoe Rogan31:34

       Where this woman was comparing crime rates in 1980-

   11. TDTim Dillon31:37

       Yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan31:37

       ... to, or the 1980s to what's happening in New York today-

   13. TDTim Dillon31:41

       Yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan31:41

       ... and how much "lower" the crime rate is now.

   15. TDTim Dillon31:43

       Right.

   16. JRJoe Rogan31:43

       Even though it's up by, like, more than 100%.

   17. TDTim Dillon31:46

       Right.

   18. JRJoe Rogan31:46

       Of last year.

   19. TDTim Dillon31:47

       Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan31:47

       Not, not comparing that.

   21. TDTim Dillon31:48

       Right.

   22. JRJoe Rogan31:49

       Let's go back to 1980.

   23. TDTim Dillon31:50

       Yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan31:50

       It's lower.

   25. TDTim Dillon31:50

       She goes, "Let's go back to when Gangs of New York-"

   26. JRJoe Rogan31:52

       (laughs)

   27. TDTim Dillon31:52

       ... you know? When it was, like, the-

   28. JRJoe Rogan31:54

       Billy Butcher.

   29. TDTim Dillon31:54

       ... Five Points. Yeah, people were, like, s- stabbing each other. Let's go back to when people were getting thrown out of saloon windows.

   30. JRJoe Rogan31:59

       Yeah.
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   Oh, yeah. …

   1. TDTim Dillon45:00

      Laurel Canyon, in that area-

   2. JRJoe Rogan45:01

      Oh, yeah.

   3. TDTim Dillon45:02

      ... it is very, very strange. That book, you had that guy on your show.

   4. JRJoe Rogan45:05

      Chaos.

   5. TDTim Dillon45:05

      Yeah.

   6. JRJoe Rogan45:05

      Tom O'Neill.

   7. TDTim Dillon45:06

      Yeah.

   8. JRJoe Rogan45:06

      That.

   9. TDTim Dillon45:06

      Tom O'Neill.

   10. JRJoe Rogan45:06

       Incredible book. Uh, and I brought it up the other day with Quentin Tarantino.

   11. TDTim Dillon45:10

       Yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan45:10

       And Tarantino, uh, had read it as well.

   13. TDTim Dillon45:12

       Yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan45:13

       I think he r- did he say he read it after he wrote the script?

   15. NANarrator45:16

       Dern, I think he talked... I think he said he's got, like, he talked to him for sure.

   16. JRJoe Rogan45:19

       Yeah.

   17. NANarrator45:19

       I, I think it was after though.

   18. JRJoe Rogan45:20

       Yeah. I think after, he really f- what, did the deep dive and found out how fucking crazy the whole CIA experiments with LSD are.

   19. TDTim Dillon45:27

       Oh, yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan45:28

       To the point where the, uh... M- my wife's mom was a hippie in Haight-Ashbury back in the dizze. And now, if you met her, she's, like, super nice grandma-

   21. TDTim Dillon45:38

       Right.

   22. JRJoe Rogan45:38

       ... lady you would never imagine.

   23. TDTim Dillon45:39

       Right.

   24. JRJoe Rogan45:39

       But back in the day, she used to go to the Haight-Ashbury Free Clinic, which was literally run by the CIA.

   25. TDTim Dillon45:46

       Crazy.

   26. JRJoe Rogan45:46

       And that's where Manson and all those guys were getting acid from.

   27. TDTim Dillon45:49

       Right.

   28. JRJoe Rogan45:50

       And then right after Tom O'Neill's book comes out, the, the, the, the fucking Haight-Ashbury Free Clinic had been around for decades.

   29. TDTim Dillon45:56

       Right.

   30. JRJoe Rogan45:57

       After Tom O'Neill's book, couple months later-
5. 1:00:00 – 1:08:00

   Did he do a…

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:00:00

      the whole thing, it's lit on fire. All of the w- the steel gets weakened, all the concrete gets weakened. It caves in at the top, and then one of the top floors goes, and then the whole thing caves in.

   2. TDTim Dillon1:00:10

      Did he do a deep dive into why we left 17 pages out of the 9/11 Commission Report that protected Saudi Arabia? Four days after the attack, Bandar, Prince Bandar was on, in the Rose Ga- or, uh, you know, on the balcony of the White House with the President of the United States. 15 of the 19 hijackers were Saudis. We completely exempted them from any culpability and attacked two countries that had nothing to do with it.

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:00:34

      Well, that-

   4. TDTim Dillon1:00:34

      That's-

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:00:34

      ... is a real conspiracy.

   6. TDTim Dillon1:00:35

      Well, that's fucking crazy.

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:00:36

      That's a real conspiracy. Yeah, it is fucking crazy.

   8. TDTim Dillon1:00:38

      That's crazy.

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:00:38

      But it doesn't mean that the, the building was a controlled demolition.

   10. TDTim Dillon1:00:42

       I don't know that it... Listen, that building collapsed in a very strange way for a building that was not hit by anything.

   11. JRJoe Rogan1:00:48

       But it was destroyed. The parts of the building were destroyed. There was big chunks of the building that were fucked up, and there was a raging fire.

   12. TDTim Dillon1:00:54

       I understand that. But-

   13. JRJoe Rogan1:00:55

       What do you think happened? You think they detonated it?

   14. TDTim Dillon1:00:58

       I don't, I don't know that we'll ever know.

   15. JRJoe Rogan1:00:59

       But if you had a guess?

   16. TDTim Dillon1:01:00

       I, why is Larry Silverstein saying, "Pull it?"

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:01:03

       Yeah, what did that mean?

   18. TDTim Dillon1:01:04

       What did that mean?

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:01:05

       What did that mean?

   20. TDTim Dillon1:01:05

       I don't know. Maybe it means something. I don't know.

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:01:08

       Yeah, what does it mean?

   22. TDTim Dillon1:01:08

       How are they making pho-... I can't get service on my phone when I take off. How are you making a phone call at 25,000 feet in the air, uh, uh, from a cell phone, telling 'em, "We love you."

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:01:19

       Is that real though?

   24. TDTim Dillon1:01:20

       Yeah!

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:01:20

       ... but did people really do that?

   26. TDTim Dillon1:01:21

       They, they-

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:01:22

       They said people really did that.

   28. TDTim Dillon1:01:23

       They said they did. Well-

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:01:24

       But that was th- that was the flight that many people believe got shot down. You know that story?

   30. TDTim Dillon1:01:30

       Yeah, that's p- potentially true, but w-

Episode duration: 2:27:38