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Joe Rogan Experience #1679 - Adam Curry

Adam Curry is an internet entrepreneur, former MTV VJ, and podcasting pioneer. He is the co-host, along with John C. Dvorak, of the "No Agenda" podcast.

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Jun 27, 20243h 8mWatch on YouTube ↗

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    (drumming) Joe Rogan podcast,…

    1. AC

      (drumming) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

    2. NA

      The Joe Rogan Experience.

    3. AC

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (rock music)

    4. JR

      Adam Curry.

    5. AC

      Joe Rogan.

    6. JR

      The Podfather, you are the Podfather. There can be only one.

    7. AC

      Joe Rogan, uh, since you recertified me as the Podfather my life has been so enriched-

    8. JR

      (laughs)

    9. AC

      ... since March of, uh, 2020 you have given me, uh, an inc- just an incredible new lease on professional life. It's been-

    10. JR

      That's awesome.

    11. AC

      ... fantastic.

    12. JR

      Well, I didn't have to recertify you. Everybody knows. You, you're the original.

    13. AC

      Yeah.

    14. JR

      Without you, there, there, there are no podcasts. Without you.

    15. AC

      But, you know, there are a lot of, uh, podcast listeners who are on the scene now and they're too young to have even ... This is 18 years ago when, when podcasting was first developed.

    16. JR

      That's so crazy.

    17. AC

      18 years ago.

    18. JR

      So crazy.

    19. AC

      So they know it maybe from Serial, 2016 or so.

    20. JR

      Wow. We're 11 years. This is, this show is in the neighborhood, it's gettin' close to 11 years old. It's like 10 and a half years old.

    21. AC

      Mm-hmm.

    22. JR

      But you, like 18 years-

    23. AC

      Yeah.

    24. JR

      ... is cra- That's crazy.

    25. AC

      Yeah. And the, and the way it's evolved has been pretty interesting.

    26. JR

      It is interesting, right? It's like w- the way it's evolving on YouTube is very bizarre. Like, 'cause there's folks that, um, up until fairly recently only did their show on YouTube.

    27. AC

      Mm-hmm.

    28. JR

      And now I think some of those folks are starting to branch out and they're doing them on other platforms as well. But-

    29. AC

      Well, you know why.

    30. JR

      With the censorship.

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    Yeah. …

    1. AC

      know, you don't catch most of it, but so much is being propagandized by corporations mainly, uh, but also, you know, just look at the, the reporting. If we can just touch the third rail, January 6th, you know, this is being thr- rammed down our throats as an insurrection, the most dangerous thing that's ever happened since the Civil War. That's our president who said that. Um, I mean, I have eyes, I saw some of it, you know, we, we haven't seen the 10,000 hours of video that's available, but to say that that was a violent insurrection on par with the Civil War or the worst since 9/11 and we need a 9/11-type commission? Uh, I mean...

    2. JR

      Yeah.

    3. AC

      ... I'm not blind, I watched it live. I saw a lot of what was going on and it just doesn't seem like there's a truth there between what most would say is, "Well, we're just walking in between the lines." No, more happened than that, um, but a violent... And it killed five people. No. Th- you know, three people died of natural causes (laughs) .

    4. JR

      They were protesters, right? Didn't-

    5. AC

      Yeah, yeah, yeah.

    6. JR

      ... some of the protesters die if they had heart attacks?

    7. AC

      Mm-hmm.

    8. JR

      Because it's probably the most exciting moment of their life.

    9. AC

      Yeah. Uh, it happens, you get a big group of people together and, you know, someone's gonna, gonna bite the bullet. Um, you know, the incessant lying about the one Capitol Hill police officer, that he was killed, but he died of a, a, um, of a stroke later that night, you know, he wasn't killed by a fire extinguisher to the head.

    10. JR

      Yeah, they said he, they beat him to death. Right? That's what everyone is saying.

    11. AC

      Yeah, but it just wasn't true, but that just keeps being repeated and it just becomes lore, it becomes the truth after a while.

    12. JR

      So he... But he likely died because of the stress caused by that event.

    13. AC

      Well, that ha- that isn't being reported like that.

    14. JR

      Right. Yeah.

    15. AC

      So, you know. (laughs)

    16. JR

      Yeah. It's-

    17. AC

      The report was he got bashed in the head with a fire extinguisher.

    18. JR

      The thing that b- bothered me the most that I didn't hear much discussion at all, that we've talked about a few times on here, is the cops opening up the gates. Like what the fuck was that? And taking selfies with people, like the MAGA-loving cops-

    19. AC

      Mm-hmm.

    20. JR

      ... that thought it would be a good idea to open the gates and let the protesters through.

    21. AC

      Well, but again, we've only seen what we've seen.

    22. JR

      Right.

    23. AC

      What has been presented to us. So we don't... Everyone has an agenda, we don't really know wha- what... You know, every angle. Like I'm in this studio, and I saw your studio, and I'm like, I had no idea what it would really look like, because I'm just seeing a little piece of it.

    24. JR

      Right.

    25. AC

      And now I'm here and I'm like, "Oh, okay, here's the reality of what it really looks like."

    26. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    27. AC

      It's a very, very different type of situation. Um, but we're, we've gotten to this place where... (sighs) Now, I'm a conspiracy therapist, right?

    28. JR

      (laughs)

    29. AC

      So, so I look at all different sides. So there's, there's one angle that, that must be discussed and I think we're the guys to talk about it, at least you're- with you is the- is the right place. Um, this could have been something similar to, uh, the Reichstag fire in Weimar Germany.

    30. JR

      Okay.

  3. 30:0045:00

    Jon Stewart is very-…

    1. JR

      They, they-

    2. AC

      Jon Stewart is very-

    3. JR

      ... coordinated.

    4. AC

      ... involved in pol- in politics, you know. He's, he's, he's very much-

    5. JR

      He's also a standup comic, though.

    6. AC

      Well, okay, so maybe it was a joke, but-

    7. JR

      I-... it's 100% was routine, and he's been doing standup comedy.

    8. AC

      Mm-hmm.

    9. JR

      You know, he's, he's back on the road. Well, I don't know if he's on the road, but he definitely performed with Dave. He was with Chappelle at, uh, one of Dave's, um, Yellow Springs, Ohio shows.

    10. AC

      But did he promote that when he came on the Colbert Show?

    11. JR

      Well, this is post that. He- he-

    12. AC

      What- what- what did he come on The Colbert Show for?

    13. JR

      But wh- what I'm on The Colbert Show for? I don't know what he was promoted for.

    14. AC

      (laughs) Nothing.

    15. JR

      Are you sure?

    16. AC

      I don't think he-

    17. JR

      I don't- I'm not- I don't know that.

    18. AC

      I think he was just there to talk about this.

    19. JR

      I don't know that. Well, we- we could find that out.

    20. AC

      Mm-hmm.

    21. JR

      But the point is, he had been doing stand up and if he was gonna do- he was gonna burn some material.

    22. AC

      Mm-hmm.

    23. JR

      You know, that- that would be a good piece of material to burn-

    24. AC

      Ooh.

    25. JR

      ... because it's, you know, it's not gonna be relevant very much longer-

    26. AC

      It was very funny.

    27. JR

      ... but it's a good thing.

    28. AC

      It was very- very, very, very funny.

    29. JR

      But Colbert, this is where I disagree with you, Colbert clearly was trying to hamstring that. He was trying to stop that routine. "Well, if I've sent any evidence, I'd like to hear it." He was fucking up a comedic bit. See, Colbert is a- a brilliant comedic actor as Stephen Colbert on Comedy Central in The Daily Show.

    30. AC

      Mm-hmm.

  4. 45:001:00:00

    That was their- …

    1. AC

      their, uh-

    2. JR

      That was their-

    3. AC

      ... blue-

    4. JR

      ... that was their main thing, right?

    5. AC

      ... the blue, blue lo- yeah, that's, that's what they're known for.

    6. JR

      That's where that logo came from.

    7. AC

      And they licensed the, the technology in order to create this, but those guys, they're paying people on TikTok, uh, it's called Team Halo, to, you know, promote the vaccine. Um, just it's been promoted everywhere, and I think they're behind some of the discreditation of, uh, of the Johnson & Johnson. I mean, if you look at whatever information is available, as many people have had blood clots with every single vaccine, but Johnson Johnson was the one that got singled out and shut down, and they're a competitor, coincidentally.

    8. JR

      Are you aware of the, uh ... oh, hold on a second. "It's not dose dependent." Oh, wow. So it's not a dose-response relationship-

    9. AC

      Oh.

    10. JR

      ... "It's about finding the perfect dose for the immune system to get the right amount of stimulation. For most vaccines, it's pretty much one size fits all." Wow. So, th- is that real- like, one size fits all for, like, children? For children and large people?

    11. AC

      For children, pregnant people-

    12. JR

      (laughs)

    13. AC

      ... everybody. One size fits all. It just seems a little ... (exhales) Yeah, we don't know, man. And, and everyone says, "We really don't know long-term efficacy or long-term effects." We just don't know.

    14. JR

      Well, yeah.

    15. AC

      Y- d- and that's ... No one can argue with that.

    16. JR

      No one can ...

    17. AC

      We just don't know.

    18. JR

      No one can argue that we-

    19. AC

      And then when I hear-

    20. JR

      ... have not had people take 100-plus million doses and study them over X amount of years. It hasn't happened before.

    21. AC

      If you look at ... (sighs) Man, so many horrible medical accidents (laughs) have happened in the past where everyone just believed, uh-

    22. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    23. AC

      ... the pharmaceutical industry, and we all, you know, the FDA, it's all ... this, this needs to be, uh, re-engineered. Every- all of these things need to be re-engineered, and I think, like I was saying with social media and YouTube, we're kind of the, the dickheads. We need to walk away. You know, if you don't like what's happening, either vote someone else in or stop buying the product.

    24. JR

      Well, with the, the, the thing with the pandemic, everybody wanted it all to o- be over, right? Everything was locked down. Everybody wanted it all to be over, and what's the best way for it to be over? Well, just take the vaccine, and then, you know, that-

    25. AC

      I know, but that by itself-

    26. JR

      ... that's-

    27. AC

      ... is so miraculous that that came together in mere months. And just saying, "Well, it just happened to be ready," no, I don't think it was ready. I don't think anyone ... and that's why it's still emergency use authorization-

    28. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    29. AC

      ... and we just don't know. Now, it, is the ... a- at this point you have to say, "Well, what is more dangerous, you know, getting COVID and risk dying or, uh, some adverse event from a, from a vaccine that is still under emergency use authorization, hasn't been tested very long?" And, you know, you can look at a million different numbers and make a decision there, but it was definitely out of the ordinary, and I can't imagine any other reason for anyone to say, "Let's do this." We didn't even know much about COVID. We're still learning stuff about it, like that it might have come from a lab. We're learning that now. If you knew that then, wouldn't the vaccines maybe be tailored to that? Or we say, "Hey China, give me some of that, uh, shit you made in the lab so we can tailor our, uh, MRNA vaccine to it." None of that. It stinks.

    30. JR

      Hm.

  5. 1:00:001:12:46

    I don't, I don't…

    1. JR

      1,700,000 deaths from the vaccine. That's outrageous, and it's not the case. So it's a very small risk, relatively, in te-

    2. AC

      I don't, I don't know.

    3. JR

      But, but hold on.

    4. AC

      I mean, there's no numbers that I can look at.

    5. JR

      But ho- but hold on.

    6. AC

      Mm-hmm.

    7. JR

      So that's true. So what he said is true. He didn't say that it's a terrible thing, don't get it.

    8. AC

      No.

    9. JR

      It's killing everybody. It's not what he said. He said there is a risk.Alex Jones says everybody knows someone who's died or who's been hurt by the vaccine. I know people that have had strokes.

    10. AC

      Mm-hmm.

    11. JR

      I know people that have had adverse reactions. That's why the VAERS report exists. Now, do I know that they absolutely got those strokes from the vaccine? Of course I don't.

    12. AC

      No.

    13. JR

      There's a lot of correlation. Does that mean causation? We don't know. We don't know what... we don't know.

    14. AC

      But what he factually said was not incorrect.

    15. JR

      But what... but what he said is not outrageous.

    16. AC

      Mm-hmm.

    17. JR

      So he's comparing... they're comparing these things in this really weird, disingenuous way to try to make it look like everything that Carl- Tucker Carlson's saying is insane because Alex Jones says something as well. If Alex Jones says drink water and take vitamins-

    18. AC

      Mm-hmm.

    19. JR

      ... and I say drink water, take vitamins, am I Alex Jones? Like, what does that mean? The other thing that he said was the Capitol Hill thing. Now, if there are government files that you... if you could read these government papers that actually do say that there were agent provocateurs that had something to do with the Capitol Hill attack.

    20. AC

      Mm-hmm.

    21. JR

      If Alex Jones says that and Tucker Carlson says that, but yet the... the fact remains that it's true, who gives a fuck and how are they making that connection? That connection is so weird. And the connection is just to try to discredit Tucker Carlson. But that this is your news-

    22. AC

      (sighs)

    23. JR

      ... that this is coming from-

    24. AC

      Okay.

    25. JR

      ... America's trusted news source-

    26. AC

      Right.

    27. JR

      ... and that this is how... this is the evidence that... It's not like he's saying, you know... it's not like this a Pizzagate type thing or, again, interdimensional child molesters or something completely crazy. What he's saying are things that aren't crazy to say at all, because he's saying... What Tucker Carlson said in this very small clip, he said there are some risks, right?

    28. AC

      Mm-hmm.

    29. JR

      Wasn't that the quote, I think?

    30. AC

      Yeah. Mm-hmm.

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