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Intro
- NANarrator
(drumming) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience.
- 0:06 – 2:11
Ari shaves his head: hair loss fixes, DHT shampoos, and Amazon remedies
- JRJoe Rogan
Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (rock music) You decided to shave your head now, huh?
- ASAri Shaffir
Yeah. I like it.
- JRJoe Rogan
Enough.
- ASAri Shaffir
What?
- JRJoe Rogan
It's better, right? Enough.
- ASAri Shaffir
It's smoother and it's easier.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes.
- ASAri Shaffir
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
So much better.
- ASAri Shaffir
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Imagine going to a barber shop now.
- ASAri Shaffir
God took care of a lot of it.
- JRJoe Rogan
God took care of it.
- ASAri Shaffir
(sighs) Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
God cursed you. Too much scalp.
- ASAri Shaffir
I want it back.
- JRJoe Rogan
Do you?
- ASAri Shaffir
I want ... I, uh, I really wanna do a mohawk correctly.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh.
- ASAri Shaffir
And I want it for a little bit. Remember how much fun I'd have with my hair?
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, you could do stuff with your hair to get it back that's not as dangerous as, uh, the, the, uh-
- ASAri Shaffir
Staples?
- JRJoe Rogan
No. No, no, no, no, no. There's, uh, ways ... There's f- ... There's a guy name, uh, Derek, he's got a website called More Plates, More Dates, and he, uh, he talks a lot about, uh, hormone optimization, all kinds of stuff, but also recovering hair loss. And w- ... There's a bunch of different things you can do. There's topical shampoos that remove DHT from the scalp that help bring your hair back.
- ASAri Shaffir
But it'll get back?
- JRJoe Rogan
I don't know, man. You're pretty far gone.
- ASAri Shaffir
That's ... I ... There's this, um, Amazonian, like, treatment for it.
- JRJoe Rogan
Amazonian?
- ASAri Shaffir
Yeah, An- ... Eng- ... Ungurahua.
- JRJoe Rogan
Ooh.
- ASAri Shaffir
And, um ... And then I found this lady who was like, "Uh, there's a lot of fake shit on the market there." Ooh, s- can I curse on this? And, uh ... (laughs)
- 2:11 – 5:56
Smallpox, first contact, and the scale of Indigenous population collapse
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, you do have to realize that 95% of them died from the plague.
- ASAri Shaffir
Yeah. And then there's the litter also.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm.
- ASAri Shaffir
Which they never liked.
- JRJoe Rogan
Litter?
- ASAri Shaffir
You know.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, the Indian that cried?
- ASAri Shaffir
Yeah. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, the, the pollution.
- ASAri Shaffir
That's (laughs) ... That's the last 5% was like-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- ASAri Shaffir
... "Come on, guys. There's 5% of us left and you're chucking shit in our yard?"
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, I was, uh, listening to this thing, uh, where these, uh, these settlers, uh, post smallpox were going, like, arriving in towns and there would be no one in the town, it would be ghosts, and they thought that people had abandoned the town, they hadn't figured it out yet, but it would lit- ... Literally, like, the entire town was wiped out.
- ASAri Shaffir
From plague?
- JRJoe Rogan
From the plague, yeah.
- ASAri Shaffir
Damn.
- JRJoe Rogan
That was a really common thing. They think that's what happened to South America. They think that's what happened to the Amazon. They think that the Lost City of Z, or Lost City of Zed, however you wanna say it-
- ASAri Shaffir
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... they think that that was an i- ... A massive civilization that existed in the Amazon and then the European settlers came down and just like they did with the Mayans, just like they did with the Native Americans, just like they did with ... They brought horrible fucking diseases and everybody died.
- ASAri Shaffir
Wow.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's the number one theory. 'Cause, like, people are thinking about what's going on right now, right? Um, you know, like, w- ... See how, uh, even a disease that doesn't kill, you know, a, a high percentage of people can spread throughout this entire country and-
- ASAri Shaffir
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... hundreds of ... I mean, I don't know how many people have been infected by COVID now. It's gotta be in the millions, right? Of, of-
- ASAri Shaffir
Oh, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... got it and recovered. Now imagine if that was smallpox.
- ASAri Shaffir
Then they're all dead.
- JRJoe Rogan
They're all dead.
- ASAri Shaffir
Wow, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Most of them are dead. Like, it's a l- ... A high percentage.
- ASAri Shaffir
Especially back then.
- 5:56 – 9:16
Old TVs, retro tech nostalgia, and modern iMac thinness
- ASAri Shaffir
Is that a flat screen? That's really nice.
- JRJoe Rogan
Of course it's flat screen. What, are you living in the past?
- ASAri Shaffir
Damn, bro.
- JRJoe Rogan
What are you saying, man?
- ASAri Shaffir
(laughs) Every once in a while you'll see, like, one of those-
- JRJoe Rogan
Can you swear on TV?
- ASAri Shaffir
... the, the big boxes still out there.
- JRJoe Rogan
People still have those?
- ASAri Shaffir
You see it and you realize, "That somebody old just died." (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh.
- ASAri Shaffir
For sure.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- ASAri Shaffir
Or got put in a home. Where, like, who would still have it?
- JRJoe Rogan
My grandpa had one of them cabinet ones.... where you open up the cabinet-
- ASAri Shaffir
And it's, it's a part of it?
- JRJoe Rogan
... and the TV was like a part of the furniture.
- ASAri Shaffir
Jeez, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
It was so classy.
- ASAri Shaffir
And then underneath was where all the VHS tapes went.
- JRJoe Rogan
There was no VHS tapes when he had it.
- ASAri Shaffir
Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
No, there was none of that. And then-
- ASAri Shaffir
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... a lot of times what would happen, the TV would die and they would put a new TV on top of the cabinet.
- ASAri Shaffir
That's right.
- JRJoe Rogan
That would be the move.
- ASAri Shaffir
That's right, 'cause you can't throw away the cabinet.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's a nice cabinet.
- ASAri Shaffir
Damn.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's a b- it's a beautiful piece of furniture, like it was like ornately designed and-
- 9:16 – 11:32
Heat, Celsius confusion, and sneakers melting on hot pavement
- JRJoe Rogan
I'm thinking 34. I was in, uh, Vegas, uh, last weekend and it was 117 degrees. 117, dude. It was so hot. We got off the plane, it was like holy shit. It was like a hair dryer just blowing in your face.
- ASAri Shaffir
It's dry, but it's like, it beats down on you sometimes there.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- ASAri Shaffir
There and Phoenix would get you like-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- ASAri Shaffir
... "Fuck."
- JRJoe Rogan
Exactly. Exactly. There and Phoenix.
- ASAri Shaffir
I was walking on the Strip in Vegas a long time ago and my Chuck Taylors on the cement, so walking like 30, 40 minutes, started to melt.
- JRJoe Rogan
(gasps)
- ASAri Shaffir
It started to feel like I stepped in gum on both shoes.
- JRJoe Rogan
Whoa.
- ASAri Shaffir
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Really?
- ASAri Shaffir
Yeah. Too hot.
- JRJoe Rogan
Holy shit.
- ASAri Shaffir
Yeah. It's not made for that.
- JRJoe Rogan
You can melt your sneakers? It can get that hot? What, what temperature do sneakers melt at? (laughs)
- ASAri Shaffir
(laughs) Rename this podcast Let's Look It Up with Joe Rogan.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, you would need work shoes.
- ASAri Shaffir
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
You would need like fucking heavy duty work boots to walk.
- ASAri Shaffir
Yeah, yeah. Exactly.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like something fucking really thick.
- ASAri Shaffir
You couldn't have steel-toed because they'll burn your toes.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, I got some dress shoes.
- ASAri Shaffir
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
From uh, David August.
- ASAri Shaffir
Good for you.
- JRJoe Rogan
That are uh, they have leather on the bottom of them. I've never owned a pair of shoes that have leather soles.
- ASAri Shaffir
Interesting.
- 11:32 – 13:14
Six months in South America: Spanish growth, Ecuador, and finding weed
- JRJoe Rogan
So, um, you're in what year ... Did you go back to New York? You were in New York are you...
- ASAri Shaffir
Back to New York.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- ASAri Shaffir
Got a new place.
- JRJoe Rogan
You were in South America for how many months?
- ASAri Shaffir
Seis meses. Six months.
- JRJoe Rogan
How do you say that?
- ASAri Shaffir
Seis.
- JRJoe Rogan
Seis meses?
- ASAri Shaffir
Meses.
- JRJoe Rogan
Is meses-
- ASAri Shaffir
Six.
- JRJoe Rogan
... is a w- a month?
- ASAri Shaffir
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Hmm.
- ASAri Shaffir
It's plural.
- JRJoe Rogan
How good are you at, at speaking Spanish?
- ASAri Shaffir
It got a lot better for sure, for sure.
- JRJoe Rogan
'Cause you can have conversations with people?
- ASAri Shaffir
Yeah. Uh, n- I mean, okay. So if you put me in like l- legal situation, I'm like, "Oh, I don't, I don't come across these words much."
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- ASAri Shaffir
Or like, or like the, the dentist, I'm like this is all, these are all new.
- JRJoe Rogan
What if you say, "How do I buy marijuana?"
- ASAri Shaffir
Uh, que es ... Uh, fuck. Where's buy? It's already dropped a little bit. Um ...
- JRJoe Rogan
Really?
- ASAri Shaffir
To purchase. Fuck, I forgot that word.
- JRJoe Rogan
You lived with a family for-
- ASAri Shaffir
Mota. Mota.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mota.
- ASAri Shaffir
Yeah.
- 13:14 – 19:20
Psychedelic weed in the Amazon: lacing theories, edibles visions, PCP vs ketamine
- ASAri Shaffir
You could find it there, but it was like, it was difficult. I don't know if it was, um, COVID stuff.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, yeah?
- ASAri Shaffir
Because, like, the nightclubs weren't open, and that's where people, like, go to the nightclubs, but that's where I'd get it, but they're not really open right now.
- JRJoe Rogan
Interesting.
- ASAri Shaffir
Yeah. So when we found some (laughs) , we found some, and we were like... It took, like, a week and a half, two weeks, and I'm like, "Fuck, we might not get some." We kept looking at people that were smoking, like, "Can we go up to them and say, can I buy some off you?" But that's so weird. Like, if you were smoking with me and someone was like-
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- ASAri Shaffir
... "Can I buy some weed?" You'd be like, "No." Even if it was legal, you'd be like, "This is mine."
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, not only that, do you n- you have to worry about organized crime, right? You might, you have to worry about getting wrapped up with the wrong humans.
- ASAri Shaffir
Uh, yeah, it wasn't a worry there.
- JRJoe Rogan
You weren't in a bad spot?
- ASAri Shaffir
That's just Guayaquil. The rest was all pretty cool. But, like-
- JRJoe Rogan
That's where?
- ASAri Shaffir
G- Guayaquil. Guayaquil. That's where the, the gangs are.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, okay.
- ASAri Shaffir
It's the biggest city.
- JRJoe Rogan
This is in Ecuador?
- ASAri Shaffir
Mm-hmm. But, like, uh, then when we found some, we were like, "Do you have?" And he was like, "Yeah, I can get some tomorrow. I can..." Like, my buddy to a head shop. He's like, "I'll bring it back tomorrow." So, he did and he was like, "How much do you want?" And we're like, "I don't know if-"
- JRJoe Rogan
A pound.
- ASAri Shaffir
Well, yeah. So I go, "How much is it?" He goes, "It's, uh, it's, uh, like, uh, dollar a gram. So, like, you can get 30 grams for 30 bucks." And I was like, "Oh, well, I don't know if we want, like, an ounce. Maybe just, like, a quarter ounce." And my partner was like, (laughs) "No, we're gonna take an ounce. It's $30."
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- ASAri Shaffir
Even if it's terrible. And it's so strong.
- JRJoe Rogan
Really?
- ASAri Shaffir
So strong.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like California weed?
- ASAri Shaffir
No. Different.
- JRJoe Rogan
Stronger?
- ASAri Shaffir
D- uh, okay. Not as strong. More psychedelic.
- JRJoe Rogan
Whoa.
- ASAri Shaffir
I was sitting, smoking in the Amazon, and I started seeing lines. Like, lines in the horizon. Like, you know when you're, like, tripping a little?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- 19:20 – 24:37
Defund the police debate: domestic calls, trauma, and traffic-stop ambush videos
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh. Bro, have you ever talked to cops about some of the things they've seen?
- ASAri Shaffir
Uh, like dark stuff?
- JRJoe Rogan
(sighs)
- ASAri Shaffir
I should now from now on.
- JRJoe Rogan
I had a conversation recently with a cop, um, who's telling me some horrible shit that he f- a guy in the m- he caught a guy as he murdered his, his wife in front of their kids.
- ASAri Shaffir
Oh.
- JRJoe Rogan
He was there as he murdered her.
- ASAri Shaffir
Like -
- JRJoe Rogan
On top of her, strangling her.
- ASAri Shaffir
Wow.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. They got there, she was already dead. They tried to revive her, but the kids were screaming at the guy. He got out of jail and was telling everybody when he-
- ASAri Shaffir
Got out of jail?
- JRJoe Rogan
... telling everybody when he gets out of jail, he's gonna kill her. So, he got out of jail.
- ASAri Shaffir
And then killed her?
- JRJoe Rogan
And then killed her. But he was... They got there right as-
- ASAri Shaffir
Her last breath.
- JRJoe Rogan
... she, I mean, he was on top of her. He had been choking her for who knows how many minutes and the kids had been screaming for who knows how long.
- ASAri Shaffir
What do they... Do they shoot him? They push him off? Like-
- JRJoe Rogan
I don't know.
- ASAri Shaffir
And then-
- JRJoe Rogan
I didn't ask. I didn't ask.
- ASAri Shaffir
There's that moment too, where you bust in and you have to see it and analyze the situation.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- ASAri Shaffir
And then like, and like run and pu-... I mean, it's like-
- JRJoe Rogan
But it... I guess they'd known of the guy and they knew the situation, you know, people in the neighborhood.
- ASAri Shaffir
Damn.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. That's why when pe- people say defund the police and use, um, use like cl- social workers to deal with domestic violence cases, I'm like, "You're out of your fucking mind. You're out of your fucking mind." First of all, they're the most dangerous cases for cops.
- ASAri Shaffir
Oh, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And they would just be as dangerous for a social worker, but they wouldn't be equipped to handle that in terms of like-
- ASAri Shaffir
Yeah. The ones in Oz were always getting fucked up.
- 24:37 – 29:33
Pandemic whiplash: masks, vaccines, Delta fatigue, and Ari’s ‘mask ceremony’
- JRJoe Rogan
Is it, isn't it wild how much the world's changed in a year and a half? It's wild.... I don't think everybody's totally realized how much the world's changed.
- ASAri Shaffir
It happens in little increments.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- ASAri Shaffir
And so, y- you sort of keep accepting the small increments.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- ASAri Shaffir
A- a- and you've already forgotten the go outside with, with ski gloves and a ski mask on.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- ASAri Shaffir
The, like, March 15th of-
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- ASAri Shaffir
... the year before where you're like, "Fuck! Fuck! Get it away from me! You're too close!"
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- ASAri Shaffir
That seems like, no. But that was a real thing, buying canned kale-
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- ASAri Shaffir
... because you're like, "I don't, are they gonna fucking... Are the trucks gonna stop coming in?"
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- ASAri Shaffir
We need calories in the house.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. And people didn't know how long it stayed on surfaces.
- ASAri Shaffir
Uh-huh.
- JRJoe Rogan
You remember-
- ASAri Shaffir
Wiping it down.
- JRJoe Rogan
You remember there was that, um, there was that one cruise ship. On the cruise ship-
- ASAri Shaffir
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... a bunch of people got it and they got stuck on the boat.
- ASAri Shaffir
You scared the shit out of me on that.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm.
- ASAri Shaffir
'Cause it was like, you were like, "Dude, 17 days after every-" (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, they still test it.
- ASAri Shaffir
I can see your impression, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, me?
- ASAri Shaffir
"Seventeen days after e- e- everyone is off-"
- 29:33 – 34:17
Hangover engineering: Berocca, Liquid IV, Pedialyte, and pro-level hydration
- ASAri Shaffir
Anyway, you're not hungover if you take that before and after.
- JRJoe Rogan
Really?
- ASAri Shaffir
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Works?
- ASAri Shaffir
Pops, pops you right back up.
- JRJoe Rogan
Have you tried, like, w- is that better than, like, Emergen-C, or one of those things?
- ASAri Shaffir
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Way better than Emergen-C. Not quite as good as that liquid IV stuff.
- JRJoe Rogan
Liquid IV's the shit.
- ASAri Shaffir
Liquid IV's great.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's the shit.
- ASAri Shaffir
But those Berocas are like... And it's not really available here in pharmacies, but all over Europe and Thailand too and, like, other places, you can just get 'em.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- ASAri Shaffir
Um, and it's just like one before you drink, one the next morning.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Well, there's this, uh, stuff called Athletic Greens that's a good way to go too, because it's so easy and it tastes good. You just pour it into a glass of water and sh- sh- mix it up, or put a bottle of water-
- ASAri Shaffir
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... shake it up. That's easy.
- ASAri Shaffir
You ever drink that baby stuff?
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, um...
- NANarrator
Pedialyte?
- JRJoe Rogan
Pedialyte.
- ASAri Shaffir
Pedialyte.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- ASAri Shaffir
And it's like, ugh, ugh.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Yeah.
- ASAri Shaffir
But choke it down. You're gonna get fucking fucked up tonight. Choke that shit down and feel better.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) To, just to hydrate your body?
- ASAri Shaffir
It's a party, dude.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, it's definitely good if people are, like, really dehydrated.
- ASAri Shaffir
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
But you should, I think you're supposed to take that in water. I don't think you're supposed to take it pure.
- 34:17 – 37:21
Perspective checks: ‘we live in great times,’ Amazon subsistence life, and hunting stories
- ASAri Shaffir
We live in great times.
- JRJoe Rogan
We live in amazing times.
- ASAri Shaffir
I love how angry everybody gets, and you're like, "Guys, it's a fucking ... kill it here."
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- ASAri Shaffir
It's so fucking fun. Everything's great.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, I've said this before, I'll say it again.
- ASAri Shaffir
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Someone told me this, and it's a, a brilliant thing. The worst thing that's ever happened to you is the worst thing that's ever happened to you, even if it's not that bad. And that's the problem with everybody today.
- ASAri Shaffir
Oh, you're ... Y- well, yeah. You're pointing it at, "I have this much anger, this much happiness."
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- ASAri Shaffir
So, you point it to whatever it is.
- JRJoe Rogan
Exactly.
- ASAri Shaffir
And even also, the opposite happens, where if you're like ... I mean, we'd see these houses in the Amazon, and it was like, "Fuck. This is dank." But they're like, "Hey, we got a new ..." Uh, what ... you know, chicken.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- ASAri Shaffir
But everyone's, like, still partying on the same level as you party when you get a Miata.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Yeah.
- ASAri Shaffir
Uh-
- JRJoe Rogan
That's their life.
- ASAri Shaffir
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. They shoot a monkey, and they cook it, and they're all happy.
- ASAri Shaffir
They're like, "We're sweet." (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- ASAri Shaffir
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. My friend, Steve Rinella went to, uh ... I th- I guess it was Guyana.
- ASAri Shaffir
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And, uh, they hunted monkeys.
- ASAri Shaffir
Damn.
- JRJoe Rogan
And they, they were eating monkeys, and he tried it. He ate a ... He ate monkey. He said it s- it tasted like smoked turkey the way they ate it. But that was like their favorite meal. They would k- ... They would kill all kinds of animals-
- ASAri Shaffir
Wow.
- JRJoe Rogan
... to stay alive. I mean, they're a complete subsistence hunting-
- 37:21 – 39:57
Social media power: cross-platform bans, ‘misinformation,’ pharma incentives, and lab-leak talk
- JRJoe Rogan
Do, did you hear Jen Psaki, the White House Press Secretary, said today that if you're banned from one social media platform, you should be banned from all of them?
- ASAri Shaffir
You should be banned from all of them.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes. And everybody's like, "What the fuck?" Like, she's encouraging people to be banned from social media platforms?
- ASAri Shaffir
Also, what if you're just banned for like posting a dick or something?
- JRJoe Rogan
She's talking about it as disinformation, if you're, if you're banned for disinformation or misinformation.
- ASAri Shaffir
Cut you out of the world.
- JRJoe Rogan
(sighs)
- ASAri Shaffir
Cut your ability-
- JRJoe Rogan
All this talk scares the fuck outta me.
- ASAri Shaffir
It is, because then when they-
- JRJoe Rogan
Because these people are just using it to their benefit politically-
- ASAri Shaffir
Uh-huh.
- JRJoe Rogan
... and they don't understand the slippery slope, because if a Republican gets in power and then they start doing that to liberals, you, you just don't understand, like you can't give anybody that kinda power.
- ASAri Shaffir
And what happens when the disinformation turns out to be true? S-
- JRJoe Rogan
Like this whole lab leak theory. The lab leak theory, you would get banned from Facebook just 10 months ago.
- ASAri Shaffir
The fucking, what's it called medication? The, um ...
- JRJoe Rogan
Ivermectin?
- ASAri Shaffir
Nah, the one Trump was saying.
- JRJoe Rogan
Hydroxychloroquine?
- ASAri Shaffir
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- ASAri Shaffir
And people are like, "How d- You're an idiot." And then people are like, "Actually, I think it's starting to work," right? Or am I wrong on that?
- JRJoe Rogan
I think there's some evidence that there's some benefit to hydroxychloroquine.
- ASAri Shaffir
Yeah, and j- because he said it, you couldn't even-
- JRJoe Rogan
It's so hard to tell with these things, because things like hydroxychloroquine and particularly ivermectin, they are generic items.
- ASAri Shaffir
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
That means they've been around so long that anybody can make 'em. So if you owned a pharmaceutical company, you could, you could compound ivermectin and sell it, which is crazy.
- ASAri Shaffir
I do, and I will.
- JRJoe Rogan
You should. And if you do that, you don't make much money, 'cause it's not that expensive, 'cause everybody can make it. So this is like a problem when-
- ASAri Shaffir
For, for Pfizer.
- 39:57 – 42:58
Algorithms, puppy-video ‘retraining,’ fireworks anxiety for dogs, and protecting your hearing
- ASAri Shaffir
... th- social media gets you into an algorithm that gets you into looking at, let's just say it's false information. It pushes you to seek out more and more of that false stuff-
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- ASAri Shaffir
... or like that side or this side or the right side or the left side or the up side.
- JRJoe Rogan
Is that what Facebook does? 'Cause I-
- ASAri Shaffir
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Different ones do different things, right? They say it but-
- ASAri Shaffir
Yeah, but they all like, once you start searching something, it pushes you fur- it sees you're interested, pushes you further and further to that, or-
- JRJoe Rogan
I always use your example-
- ASAri Shaffir
... what makes you angry.
- JRJoe Rogan
... of when you did that thing with puppies.
- ASAri Shaffir
The puppies?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. That really worked.
- ASAri Shaffir
Yeah. Spend a week, click on nothing but puppy videos. Search some puppy videos to start with, then it'll give you whatever. My, uh, my, um, someone who uploads for, to YouTube for me, to my YouTube account, um, she uses my account. She's putting it in there. And she's like, "Why are there so many like dog relaxation (laughs) videos?" I'm like, "Oh, that's from a fucking bandit, man." But like now she's watching 'em, so now it's gone over to her YouTube.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, that's fire.
- ASAri Shaffir
It's just popping up my suggestions, like, "Do you want 15 hours of dog relaxation?" (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Dog relaxation?
- ASAri Shaffir
It's when they have like fireworks, you gotta drown it out.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, yeah?
- ASAri Shaffir
Like, ugh, the fireworks.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, for dogs?
- ASAri Shaffir
(sighs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, they, they freak out.
- ASAri Shaffir
So they're having a great time, a great time, and then one M80 or whatever goes off. Arf. 10 blocks away, their tail goes down, they start shivering.
- JRJoe Rogan
You imagine what that must sound like to them, their giant ass ears?
- ASAri Shaffir
They don't know what it is. Yeah, they don't know what it is.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- ASAri Shaffir
Uh-
- JRJoe Rogan
But it also must hurt.
- ASAri Shaffir
Oh right, good point.
- JRJoe Rogan
They have giant ears.
- 42:58 – 47:55
Concert volume, iconic band signatures, and why sound systems changed touring
- JRJoe Rogan
Is it crazy that concerts are so loud you have to have earplugs? Like, why are they doing that?
- ASAri Shaffir
You can just sit up there. Sit up there with a guitar. You ever go to Ireland? And they're just like, a guy playing, you can barely hear it two tables over. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- ASAri Shaffir
And you're like, "This is lovely." It's great.
- JRJoe Rogan
But those guys all go deaf.
- ASAri Shaffir
They'll plug it in.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like the lead singer from AC/DC, he can't even fucking perform anymore.
- ASAri Shaffir
Really?
- JRJoe Rogan
His ears are so fucked, his head's so fucked. Like, they ... It blows their ears apart. You know, you know how you get in someone's car and they got shitty old speakers, it's like, "Krsh."
- ASAri Shaffir
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's this guy's head.
- ASAri Shaffir
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
His speakers are blown. Like his internal ears-
- ASAri Shaffir
Damn.
- JRJoe Rogan
... are blown. Yeah. It happens-
- ASAri Shaffir
Damn.
- JRJoe Rogan
... to all of them.
- ASAri Shaffir
And for what? Some jock rock?
- JRJoe Rogan
AC/DC, how dare you?
- ASAri Shaffir
I'll stay with it.
- JRJoe Rogan
How dare you?
- ASAri Shaffir
I'll stick with it. Fucking jock rock. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
It's a long way to the top if you wanna rock and roll.
- ASAri Shaffir
You say that with your new head nerd.
- JRJoe Rogan
Bro, they got some good fucking songs.
- ASAri Shaffir
No, I know. Right. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
They got some good fucking songs. It's interesting that their, their music is so distinct. Like if you hear a song-
- ASAri Shaffir
It's his voice.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's not just a-
- ASAri Shaffir
And the guitar.
- 47:55 – 52:18
Comedy after lockdown: outdoor shows, club staffing shortages, and culture-war ‘rage’
- JRJoe Rogan
They're ... Sound better. Same thing with comedy too. The worst thing is when you go to a comedy place and the volume's not loud enough, oof.
- ASAri Shaffir
The outdoor stuff was so shitty.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, outdoor stuff sucked.
- ASAri Shaffir
And we all got used to it because it, it got taken away from us completely, right? So then we were like, "Fuck, there's no comedy."
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- ASAri Shaffir
And then it's like, hey, there's ... I didn't do the Zoom shows. I, I'm assuming you didn't either.
- JRJoe Rogan
No.
- ASAri Shaffir
But then it's like, hey, there's some comedy. There's a front patio there.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- ASAri Shaffir
Even though we all agreed outdoor sucks, but we're like, "Hey, this is so much better than no comedy."
- JRJoe Rogan
They're still doing outdoor at The Improv on Melrose, huh?
- ASAri Shaffir
I don't know.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, they were showing on their Instagram. They had, uh, outdoor comedy shows in that little parking lot area.
- ASAri Shaffir
So a lot of them, I think, the stand is doing the same thing in New York where they're like, "Well, we built this thing. We can go back inside, but why don't we run two shows?"
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- ASAri Shaffir
"If we're sold out, why don't we run..." Oh, just real quick.
- JRJoe Rogan
Okay.
- ASAri Shaffir
Uh, audience, every comedy club in the country is searching for help. They are having trouble opening. The Denver Comedy Works specifically, but Magoo, b- all of them, they cannot find help because of unemployment, because of whatever, part-time work. If you've ever wanted to work at a comedy club, now is your time. Just go in there and get an application. They are massively searching for work.
- JRJoe Rogan
I know Denver is.
- ASAri Shaffir
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's a big one.
- ASAri Shaffir
So many.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right? Yeah.
- ASAri Shaffir
I've talked to all of them. I share information. I'm like, "You guys are all in the same boat."
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- ASAri Shaffir
Cooks especially, wait staff, uh, door guys. If you hear us talking about how fun it is to work at a comedy club, it is fun. Uh, not just the Comedy Store. Across the country. Go in, get an application and be part of some fun shit.
- JRJoe Rogan
Does The Store have a problem too?
- ASAri Shaffir
The pay is pretty good.
- JRJoe Rogan
... does the store have a problem getting-
- ASAri Shaffir
I-
- 52:18 – 59:37
Stimulus politics, vaccine timing suspicions, gain-of-function details, and breakthrough cases
- JRJoe Rogan
I wonder if he'd figured out a way to give people 2,000 and really did that on a regular basis if he would've got reelected.
- ASAri Shaffir
Yeah. You know how they always, like gas prices come down before an election so that you'll, you'll have, like, better feelings about the president?
- JRJoe Rogan
Not before Obama got into office. Do you remember that?
- ASAri Shaffir
It stayed high?
- JRJoe Rogan
We were... No. They raised the fuck out of it right before, and people were like, "This is so goddamn transparent." It was, like, the last few weeks of the Bush administration, they fucking jacked the price of gas up.
- ASAri Shaffir
Wait, before the election or after?
- JRJoe Rogan
B- f- after the election was over.
- ASAri Shaffir
Oh, right.
- JRJoe Rogan
Bush, Bush was out and they knew they were out, so Obama was coming in and they just jacked the fucking price of gas up.
- ASAri Shaffir
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And they're like, "Well, you know, the negotiations and the pipeline and this and that."
- ASAri Shaffir
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They always blame it on something.
- JRJoe Rogan
Okay, okay, sure.
- ASAri Shaffir
That happened with the vaccine too. Like, it was like four days after the election, like, "Hey, we got the vaccine." And you're like... (laughs) And everyone's like, "There's no way they'd hold back the vaccine." I'm like, "Mm, yeah, but you might hold back announcing it."
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- ASAri Shaffir
Very fishy. At least own up to the fact that it's fishy as fuck.
- JRJoe Rogan
It seems fishy.
- ASAri Shaffir
I, it was like f-
- JRJoe Rogan
More fishy...
- ASAri Shaffir
... the election on Tuesday, and by Saturday they were like, (laughs) "Hey, it's over."
- JRJoe Rogan
Way more fishy was they waited a few months and then they go, "You know, this lab leak theory actually has some legs. This actually could be real. It really probably did come from a lab in China."
- ASAri Shaffir
What's the difference? What, does it matter about research?
- JRJoe Rogan
It's a big difference.
- ASAri Shaffir
Is that the difference?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes.
- ASAri Shaffir
Like how you decide to fight it?
- JRJoe Rogan
Gain-of-function research, which, uh, Fauci funded. They, the World Health Organization, uh, sort of, they were all giving out bad information in the beginning about this.
- ASAri Shaffir
What does that mean, gain of function?
- JRJoe Rogan
And they were getting... Gain of function is they take a virus and they try to make the virus more deadly to understand it.
- ASAri Shaffir
Viruscer.
- 59:37 – 1:02:47
‘Normal person’ health advice, booze debates, fame weirdness, tour posters, Ecuador gifts, and cancellation blowback
- ASAri Shaffir
Joe, you have all these tips. You need to talk to a normal person. Forget the IV drips. I, like I told you yesterday-
- JRJoe Rogan
Normal person?
- ASAri Shaffir
Yes, what alcohols can we drink to get-
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- ASAri Shaffir
... to get the most vaccines possible?
- JRJoe Rogan
Who the fuck was telling us that whiskey-
- ASAri Shaffir
What good foods can we eat?
- JRJoe Rogan
... is actually pretty good for you? Who was saying that? Someone was saying that whiskey has, uh ... It was some sort of-
- ASAri Shaffir
Whisk- whiskey promoter?
- JRJoe Rogan
... what, what, um ... No, no, no. It was what, uh-
- ASAri Shaffir
Jimmy LeFroig? (blows raspberry)
- JRJoe Rogan
Not resveratrol. I think maybe it was r- not resveratrol, but another kind of antioxidant that-
- NANarrator
Polyphenols.
- ASAri Shaffir
Shh.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's right, polyphenols.
- NANarrator
Plant-based antioxidants.
- ASAri Shaffir
Remember they were saying weed might s- stop COVID-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- ASAri Shaffir
... for a little bit?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- ASAri Shaffir
And people were like, "Smoke all day." (laughs) They're like... They were like, "No, no. It said some types of CBDs might help." (laughs) And they're like, "Smoke all weed."
- JRJoe Rogan
Whiskey has high levels of polyphenols, plant-based antioxidants linked to lowering your risk of heart disease. The polyphenols in whiskey have been shown to decrease bad cholesterol, LDL, and increase good cholesterol, HDL, levels, and reduce triglycerides or fat in your blood.
- ASAri Shaffir
That's what I'm talking about, Joe. This is how you stay accessible and do your fucking-
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm.
- ASAri Shaffir
... advice shit.
- JRJoe Rogan
There you go.
- ASAri Shaffir
You gotta do it into our normal lives.
- JRJoe Rogan
Health benefits of whiskey. Normal lives.
- ASAri Shaffir
What foods can we eat? We're already gluttonous.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm.
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