Joe Rogan Experience #1707 - Kyle Dunnigan & Kurt Metzger

Kyle Dunnigan and Kurt Metzger are standup comedians, actors, and the creators of "Fresh Prez of DC," a satirical comedy series on YouTube. They are also podcasters. Dunnigan is the host of "The Kyle Dunnigan Show" and Metzger is the host of "Can't Get Right with Kurt Metzger."

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0:00 – 1:27
Warm-up riffing: unfiltered honesty and why their sketches hit
1. JRJoe Rogan
  (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.
2. NANarrator
  The Joe Rogan Experience. (music) Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. We're up and rolling. This is all on the record, so don't say anything crazy.
3. KMKurt Metzger
  I'm, I'm terrible in that position. Like, I have to be really... Some people instinctively are like, "We just don't talk about that." I know how to do that. I don't have no... I can't, I can't do that.
4. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, I know you don't. That's what I love about you. You just spit. (laughs)
5. KMKurt Metzger
  Yeah, that is good. (laughs)
6. KDKyle Dunnigan
  He says things to people are like, "Oh my God." He said something to a comedian that I won't say, but like, uh, oh my God.
7. KMKurt Metzger
  Yeah, but it was good-
8. KDKyle Dunnigan
  It was good advice. He gave some advice. It, it was honest, which is good.
9. KMKurt Metzger
  One, like one-
10. JRJoe Rogan
  Did he tell them to kill themselves?
11. KMKurt Metzger
  (laughs) No. No, it's-
12. KDKyle Dunnigan
  It was a woman.
13. KMKurt Metzger
  Uh, uh, uh-
14. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh, told her to quit?
15. KMKurt Metzger
  No. No, I... Well, I don't want to get into it. Gonna embarrass me.
16. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, okay. Don't, don't do this.
17. KMKurt Metzger
  I don't even know if I would do that and upset anyone.
18. KDKyle Dunnigan
  I won't, I won't say a name. I'm gonna leave.
19. JRJoe Rogan
  What have you done, Kyle?
20. KDKyle Dunnigan
  I'm leaving, I'm sorry.
21. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
22. KMKurt Metzger
  Why did you...
23. JRJoe Rogan
  As a team, you two-
24. KDKyle Dunnigan
  He's just, he's honest, yes.
25. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
26. KDKyle Dunnigan
  Go ahead as a team.
27. JRJoe Rogan
  You two, you two balance each other out in a very odd way.
28. KDKyle Dunnigan
  We... Yes, we are... We fill gaps.
29. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
30. KMKurt Metzger
  Sometimes it feels like-
1:27 – 2:22
How their internet comedy became a “show” worth watching
1. JRJoe Rogan
  You guys are silently creating the best comedy show on the internet. I really believe that.
2. KDKyle Dunnigan
  Thank you.
3. KMKurt Metzger
  Well...
4. JRJoe Rogan
  Your shit that you guys have put out, these face swaps, this fucking The Fresh Prez.
5. KMKurt Metzger
  Yeah. (laughs)
6. JRJoe Rogan
  This, this Joe Biden sitcom.
7. KMKurt Metzger
  Yeah.
8. JRJoe Rogan
  Like it... I, I am astonished it hasn't caught on more than it has. It's caught on a lot.
9. KMKurt Metzger
  Right.
10. JRJoe Rogan
  But it should be one of the biggest fucking things in the country. You guys are doing the most ruthless, hilarious shit. I can't support it enough.
11. KMKurt Metzger
  (laughs)
12. KDKyle Dunnigan
  Thank you.
13. JRJoe Rogan
  And that's why I wanted to have you guys in here.
14. KMKurt Metzger
  Well-
15. JRJoe Rogan
  I love it.
16. KMKurt Metzger
  ... it might be a little dirty.
17. KDKyle Dunnigan
  Thank you. It's you, you-
18. JRJoe Rogan
  A little dirty? (laughs)
19. KMKurt Metzger
  (laughs)
20. KDKyle Dunnigan
  You've been the one that's like... I mean you... When you started promoting my stuff like three years ago, I mean, I was nowhere. I was doomed. When you look back on your life, I didn't realize how doomed I was-
21. KMKurt Metzger
  (laughs)
22. KDKyle Dunnigan
  ... until he started supporting me. And then I was like cranking out maybe one a week, one sketch a week. And that's, that was like a lot of work, you know, even just to do that, writing sketches. A lot harder to crank out.
2:22 – 4:45
Branding pain: stolen handles, domains, and the economics of your name
1. JRJoe Rogan
  You need a better Instagram handle. It's like kyledunnigan2.
2. KMKurt Metzger
  No, it's one.
3. KDKyle Dunnigan
  It's one, dude.
4. JRJoe Rogan
  One. Why is it one?
5. KMKurt Metzger
  But it does mean-
6. KDKyle Dunnigan
  Two is actually better.
7. KMKurt Metzger
  It does mean two.
8. JRJoe Rogan
  But does someone have kyledunnigan1?
9. KDKyle Dunnigan
  Yeah, yeah.
10. KMKurt Metzger
  Yeah.
11. KDKyle Dunnigan
  He also has my email and he gets a lot of emails. Uh, and he-
12. JRJoe Rogan
  You talked to this kyledunnigan fella?
13. KDKyle Dunnigan
  We've... See, he stopped... He used to forward me stuff and it's been-
14. JRJoe Rogan
  Then he stopped.
15. KDKyle Dunnigan
  ... like a year and a half. And I'm sure he just is like, "I'm not doing this anymore."
16. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, I had joerogan.com. There was an original Joe Rogan who was a real estate salesman and, uh-
17. KMKurt Metzger
  You lost yours to a real estate guy too.
18. JRJoe Rogan
  I don't know. Well-
19. KMKurt Metzger
  That's why I don't have kurtmetzger. Yeah.
20. JRJoe Rogan
  It's not... I didn't lose it.
21. KMKurt Metzger
  Oh.
22. JRJoe Rogan
  I mean, it's his name. He's older than me. He's a veteran.
23. KMKurt Metzger
  Yeah.
24. JRJoe Rogan
  This is really his name.
25. KMKurt Metzger
  Mm-hmm.
26. JRJoe Rogan
  But I bought it from him.
27. KMKurt Metzger
  Oh, you did? Oh.
28. JRJoe Rogan
  I had to buy joerogan.com.
29. KDKyle Dunnigan
  I had kyledunnigan.com and then someone bought it 'cause I dropped the ball.
30. KMKurt Metzger
  (groans)
4:45 – 7:25
Blue checks as punishment + OJ Simpson’s surreal social media era
1. JRJoe Rogan
  You know what's crazy? They take your blue check if they don't agree with you.
2. KMKurt Metzger
  Wait, you can lose your, uh...
3. JRJoe Rogan
  Yes.
4. KMKurt Metzger
  You can turn in your check?
5. JRJoe Rogan
  You... They'll, they'll take your blue check mark if you say objectionable things.
6. KDKyle Dunnigan
  Mm-hmm.
7. KMKurt Metzger
  Oh, I didn't know that. But I thought the point of it was to keep people from pretending to be you.
8. JRJoe Rogan
  Exactly, but they don't give a fuck. Like, they're using it as a, as a punitive.
9. KMKurt Metzger
  On Instagram or on Twitter?
10. JRJoe Rogan
  On both.
11. KDKyle Dunnigan
  Yeah, t-
12. KMKurt Metzger
  Really?
13. KDKyle Dunnigan
  Yeah, OJ doesn't have a Twit- uh, a check, and people are trying to-
14. KMKurt Metzger
  (laughs)
15. KDKyle Dunnigan
  Have you seen his Twitter, by the way?
16. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh, it's the best.
17. KDKyle Dunnigan
  Hilarious.
18. JRJoe Rogan
  Hello, Twitter friend.
19. KDKyle Dunnigan
  Hey, Twitter. No, he goes, "Hey, Twitter world, it's yours truly."
20. JRJoe Rogan
  That's right, Twitter world.
21. KDKyle Dunnigan
  (laughs) Hey, Twitter world, it's yours truly.
22. KMKurt Metzger
  (laughs)
23. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
24. KDKyle Dunnigan
  And all his Tweeds are like, he'll be like, "Hey, the Broncos are doing pretty good." And then the comment is like, "Murderer, murderer, murderer, murderer."
25. KMKurt Metzger
  (laughs)
26. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
27. KDKyle Dunnigan
  "Hey, Allen's knee should be better soon." Murderer, murderer, murderer, murderer.
28. JRJoe Rogan
  It's all knives. All like knife emojis.
29. KDKyle Dunnigan
  Yeah. Like, "You're killing it, OJ."
30. KMKurt Metzger
  (laughs)
7:25 – 13:43
From OJ to mob podcasts: criminals as content creators (and Seagal lore)
1. KMKurt Metzger
  You know, a lot of, a lot of, like, people, like killers have, have (laughs) , like, podcasts and stuff now. Like-
2. JRJoe Rogan
  Sammy the Bull.
3. KMKurt Metzger
  This is great.
4. JRJoe Rogan
  Sammy the Bull's got, like-
5. KMKurt Metzger
  I lose...
6. NANarrator
  Oh, yeah. He showed me some of that. Some of the stuff is hilarious.
7. KMKurt Metzger
  I've never... For... I don't think I could watch a mob movie again, like, when they make a new one and have the same... Because you can watch these guys tell the story, and it's so much better.
8. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, there's a couple of those guys. Michael Franzese and-
9. NANarrator
  Oh, yeah.
10. JRJoe Rogan
  ... and Sammy the Bull Gravano, and a few of those-
11. KMKurt Metzger
  I-
12. JRJoe Rogan
  ... mob guys are-
13. KMKurt Metzger
  Yeah, they all... And they get in, they get in, like, argue-
14. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
15. KMKurt Metzger
  Like fights, like mob fu- podcast fights.
16. JRJoe Rogan
  That's not how he died, Sammy.
17. KMKurt Metzger
  (laughs)
18. JRJoe Rogan
  That is not how I killed him.
19. NANarrator
  (laughs) What are you talking about?
20. KMKurt Metzger
  They all argue about shit n- like you couldn't care less about.
21. JRJoe Rogan
  Right.
22. KMKurt Metzger
  Like, "He never hung out at that club."
23. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
24. KMKurt Metzger
  "I was there every night, and I didn't see him."
25. NANarrator
  (laughs)
26. JRJoe Rogan
  Their pasta e fagioli was garbage. It was garbage.
27. KMKurt Metzger
  But, uh, Sammy's is the be- and, you know, a lot of, there's a lot of them, but his is the best one. Uh, uh, hands down the best one.
28. JRJoe Rogan
  Well, it's interesting. He tells stories, you know, like they're, they're, they're... It's kind of crazy that a guy who's murdered nine people can just have a podcast.
29. NANarrator
  Yeah.
30. KMKurt Metzger
  Well, don't you think he probably thinks of it like, like if you were talking to a sol- you probably talked to a lot... I know I talked to a lot of soldiers that kill... I don't know how many people they kill. We didn't talk their kills, but he probably thinks of it that way, not that I think of it that way.
13:43 – 17:41
Whiskey break to awards talk: the messy reality behind Emmys and credit
1. KDKyle Dunnigan
  Let's toast to, uh...
2. JRJoe Rogan
  Let's toast to you guys.
3. KDKyle Dunnigan
  I want to toast also, make very clear that- that Kurt gets a lot of credit because he, in his career, hasn't gotten much credit for a lot of things. And also-
4. KMKurt Metzger
  I have like three awards.
5. KDKyle Dunnigan
  No, but like...
6. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
7. KDKyle Dunnigan
  I'm trying to compliment the guy.
8. KMKurt Metzger
  What kind of awards you get?
9. KDKyle Dunnigan
  We won an Emmy the first time we worked together we won.
10. KMKurt Metzger
  No, the Emmy, the Emmy I have one, but it's not... It didn't go to me.
11. KDKyle Dunnigan
  Yeah, this-
12. KMKurt Metzger
  I have the Peabody, I think I'm supposed to have another one, and then a Writer's, and then a Guildy. (laughs)
13. JRJoe Rogan
  Ooh.
14. KMKurt Metzger
  A Writer's Guild Award, which apparently is a good award. They all mean-
15. KDKyle Dunnigan
  Yeah.
16. KMKurt Metzger
  I don't know what you do with them. They're all-
17. JRJoe Rogan
  I'll just stick 'em somewhere.
18. KDKyle Dunnigan
  Also, uh, we also get help from Jessica Montes and John Bush also help with our- with our stuff.
19. KMKurt Metzger
  Nice.
20. KDKyle Dunnigan
  Jessica produces and John writes stuff too. Um, but- but Kurt, this is where how he got, uh, totally scammed. We were writing for this sketch show, and it was Kurt's idea for this very funny song, which was Girl, You Don't Need Makeup. But like ended up like, maybe you should wear makeup, you know? And I was like, oh, I wanna write the- I wanna write the music for that, you know, 'cause I, uh, I like to write music. And so Kurt, it was Kurt's total idea. And, you know, some writers and I put... I added-
21. KMKurt Metzger
  Everybody throws their own.
22. KDKyle Dunnigan
  ... added some stuff. Like we all added some stuff, but it was Kurt's idea. So anyway, the Emmy, um, Comedy Central for some reason, the way the Emmy is set up, it goes to the producer and the writer of the music. So I got the Emmy, and Kurt, who should have also got an Emmy, was totally blocked out of it. The executive producer ended up giving him an Emmy, just-
23. KMKurt Metzger
  Yeah, they re-engraved one.
24. KDKyle Dunnigan
  Re-engraved, yeah.
25. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh, that's nice.
26. KMKurt Metzger
  Yeah, very nice of him.
27. KDKyle Dunnigan
  Also, I was on-
28. JRJoe Rogan
  But can he give you an Emmy? It's like if I give you an Oscar.
29. KMKurt Metzger
  It's not real.
30. JRJoe Rogan
  Does that count?
17:41 – 21:27
Inside the writers’ room: diversity hiring, ‘they/them’ confusion, and incentives
1. KMKurt Metzger
  But what helps you a lot more is like if you're like clicked up with like, you know, first of all-
2. JRJoe Rogan
  The right people. Yeah.
3. KMKurt Metzger
  ... which is middle-aged white writer. I don't know if you know, they're mostly casting the writing rooms now. So you got to be already in with like grandfathered in-
4. JRJoe Rogan
  Right.
5. KMKurt Metzger
  ... old white guys or you're not... You know what I mean? Like there's no... You couldn't be... I wouldn't know how you'd be like a new guy trying to get into it. I have no idea how you would do that.
6. JRJoe Rogan
  A new guy, you mean?
7. KMKurt Metzger
  Yeah, like some-
8. JRJoe Rogan
  Because of diversity quotas?
9. KMKurt Metzger
  Yeah, you would have to be like really high in like an improv scene probably.... probably, like, a rich kid.
10. JRJoe Rogan
  So are they, like, particularly casting things just based on diversity now?
11. KMKurt Metzger
  Oh, yeah.
12. KDKyle Dunnigan
  Yeah. You-
13. KMKurt Metzger
  Have you not watched the, uh-
14. JRJoe Rogan
  I don't pay attention.
15. KMKurt Metzger
  Oh, yeah. It's crazy.
16. JRJoe Rogan
  What's it like?
17. KMKurt Metzger
  But-
18. JRJoe Rogan
  I know they do that for shows.
19. KMKurt Metzger
  Oh, yeah, for sure.
20. JRJoe Rogan
  Like in terms of, like, casting. But in terms of, like, writers-
21. KMKurt Metzger
  I'm not talking about the cast.
22. KDKyle Dunnigan
  Absolutely right in.
23. KMKurt Metzger
  I'm talking about the writer's room.
24. KDKyle Dunnigan
  Yeah.
25. KMKurt Metzger
  Yes.
26. KDKyle Dunnigan
  I know a very big show, they were, these extra producers were like, "Do you, do you know any, um, Black writers?" They specifically needed to hire, they have to hire one, because they don't want the press of... Look at this writer's room, there's a picture of a bunch of white people. They just don't want that trouble.
27. KMKurt Metzger
  By the way-
28. KDKyle Dunnigan
  So, they make sure.
29. KMKurt Metzger
  ... they also don't really want Black writers. (laughs) They want, as if, somebody Black who also is like our sort. (laughs) Do you know what I mean? Like, they don't want-
30. JRJoe Rogan
  Right.
21:27 – 37:21
Neo-pronouns, TikTok identity trends, and ‘compelled speech’ anxiety
1. KMKurt Metzger
  Well, you know what helps? Uh, it's hard to learn it, but I find it helps if I go on TikTok and someone with clown hair-
2. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
3. KMKurt Metzger
  ... condescendingly tells it to me.
4. KDKyle Dunnigan
  They always have clown hair.
5. JRJoe Rogan
  They usually have a nose ring, yeah.
6. KMKurt Metzger
  Do you watch people like, "Oh my God, it's so simple."
7. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
8. KMKurt Metzger
  Like (laughs) they look like they can't believe it.
9. JRJoe Rogan
  Wait, I'm lexisexual.
10. KMKurt Metzger
  How do you not get this?
11. KDKyle Dunnigan
  What's that one?
12. JRJoe Rogan
  Well, dude, have you ever gone on Libs of TikTok?
13. KMKurt Metzger
  Yeah, right, that's what it is.
14. KDKyle Dunnigan
  Yes.
15. JRJoe Rogan
  Libs of TikTok on Twitter is one of the greatest fucking accounts of all time.
16. KDKyle Dunnigan
  Yeah.
17. JRJoe Rogan
  It's every day.
18. KMKurt Metzger
  Good one.
19. JRJoe Rogan
  You're, they, they scour all these really super crazy liberal TikTok pages.
20. KDKyle Dunnigan
  Yes.
21. KMKurt Metzger
  That's beyond even liberal though.
22. JRJoe Rogan
  And they find the most... Yeah.
23. KMKurt Metzger
  I mean, it's definitely the result of liberal parenting.
24. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh, it's not. They call, it's just a good name, Libs of TikTok.
25. KMKurt Metzger
  Yeah.
26. JRJoe Rogan
  It's definitely... It might not be, it might let, be like hardcore Christian parenting-
27. KMKurt Metzger
  Do you know what I like to know?
28. JRJoe Rogan
  ... that forces them to be regressive.
29. KMKurt Metzger
  Yeah, that, you're right, you're right. Uh, uh-
30. JRJoe Rogan
  Or, or rather rejected.
37:21 – 44:11
Clown ‘masterclass’ rabbit hole and why ‘teaching’ comedy is suspicious
1. JRJoe Rogan
  While you were telling me about this fu-... Tell me about this fucking clown. I told you to save it. You were telling me where we were having espresso.
2. KMKurt Metzger
  Oh, the greatest... Yeah, we were having espresso and talking about the great French clowns. (laughs) Do you ever... I, the guy I showed you, the guy who's the number one clown in the world. He's the best clown.
3. JRJoe Rogan
  He's so good.
4. KMKurt Metzger
  And he has a clown school. Yeah.
5. JRJoe Rogan
  He doesn't use makeup anymore.
6. KMKurt Metzger
  So good.
7. JRJoe Rogan
  He passes the makeup.
8. KMKurt Metzger
  That's what I took from it. He has those little red glasses. He's so... Such a master clown, he no longer needs a nose. Like, uh-
9. NANarrator
  You just slowly take it away. Like, your shoes get shorter as you get better.
10. KMKurt Metzger
  Yeah.
11. JRJoe Rogan
  Yes. (laughs)
12. NANarrator
  As you lose your nose.
13. JRJoe Rogan
  Yes. You can dress like a normal person. You're a... The, the highest level is business suit.
14. NANarrator
  Right, right.
15. JRJoe Rogan
  Business suit clown.
16. NANarrator
  That's the best clowns.
17. KMKurt Metzger
  Yeah. But it's very, like, Montreal, Fra... I, I mean... Wait, I don't remember his name. It's, like, Gaulier. The picture of him is great.
18. JRJoe Rogan
  Your light is on.
19. KMKurt Metzger
  I know.
20. JRJoe Rogan
  You fucking grandpa. (laughs)
21. KMKurt Metzger
  Yeah, what is that? Why does it do that?
22. JRJoe Rogan
  Because it's on. It's fucking...
23. KMKurt Metzger
  I know.
24. JRJoe Rogan
  It's so that you could use it.
25. KMKurt Metzger
  Hold on.
26. JRJoe Rogan
  Like, if you want to see something in the dark.
27. NANarrator
  This is the boomer episode. (laughs)
28. KMKurt Metzger
  There you go. It c-... It turns on all the time.
29. NANarrator
  We don't know what Jen does on.
30. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, it's a button. It's on your screen.
44:11 – 50:43
Actors, auditions, and theater-kid chaos (plus Kyle’s early performance stories)
1. JRJoe Rogan
  Well, it's such a mentally ill profession because you go in there, right? A- if they weren't mentally ill when they started acting, they become mentally ill through this whole audition process because you're insecure, you're ch-... "Am I gonna make it? Is this gonna happen for me?" And then you go in this room-
2. KMKurt Metzger
  Right.
3. JRJoe Rogan
  ... and you have to perform for these people and they're just, like, s- stoic, dead-faced.
4. KDKyle Dunnigan
  Mm-hmm.
5. JRJoe Rogan
  And they're like, "Thank you." And you leave-
6. KDKyle Dunnigan
  Yeah.
7. JRJoe Rogan
  ... and you're like, "Ah, I want to kill myself."
8. KDKyle Dunnigan
  Yeah.
9. JRJoe Rogan
  And then you just, you just wanna do drugs or have sex or do something to try to distract yourself and drown out the pain. And then next thing you know, you're doing it again and doing it again.
10. KMKurt Metzger
  But why?
11. JRJoe Rogan
  You're getting rejected 10 times a day.
12. KDKyle Dunnigan
  And you're not selling, like, a T-shirt, you're selling yourself.
13. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
14. KDKyle Dunnigan
  Do you like? No. And there's just no one-
15. KMKurt Metzger
  Yeah, it is whore class. That's why. (laughs)
16. KDKyle Dunnigan
  It is whore class.
17. KMKurt Metzger
  Yeah, but, but why... Like, in high school, the theater kids, I remember not even understanding until later, like, how much they were, like, debauched (laughs) . Like, they were all-
18. KDKyle Dunnigan
  A lot of them.
19. KMKurt Metzger
  ... fucking earlier than any, than the kids from the bad neighborhood. You know what I mean? Like-
20. JRJoe Rogan
  Right. Right.
21. KDKyle Dunnigan
  Not where I came from.
22. KMKurt Metzger
  So what's that... Oh, at Connecticut?
23. KDKyle Dunnigan
  I, we had... I, I was, like, in the theater thing.
24. JRJoe Rogan
  In Connecticut?
25. KDKyle Dunnigan
  We did, we did The Wiz. It was an all-white school. We did The Wiz, which is an all-Black play. And I was the Scare-
26. JRJoe Rogan
  Did you do blackface?
27. KDKyle Dunnigan
  No, I was the Scarecrow, so kind of.
28. JRJoe Rogan
  Did anybody do blackface?
29. KDKyle Dunnigan
  No. But we had one Black girl in the school and they cast her as a munchkin.
30. KMKurt Metzger
  (laughs)
50:43 – 1:02:26
Joe’s COVID treatment and the ivermectin media narrative
1. JRJoe Rogan
  I'll ... If ... And by the way, if people don't know that that's complete bullshit-
2. KMKurt Metzger
  Yeah.
3. JRJoe Rogan
  ... they- they're not gonna know, 'cause that is so bald-faced lie that the people that are like, "No, yeah, that ..." Like, you know, they watch Colbert and they're like, "Oh, that's a horse dewormer." There's nothing you're gonna ever tell them. You know what I mean? Like, that's, that's scarring your heart. Well, the narrative has gotten out, and so if you're not a person who looks into these stories, the narrative is ivermectin is a horse dewormer, and Rolling Stone actually printed a story that said that there was a hospital that had so many cases of overdose of horse dewormy, their, h- horse dewormer, that gunshot wound victims could-
4. KMKurt Metzger
  Had to wait.
5. JRJoe Rogan
  Had to wait.
6. KMKurt Metzger
  Yeah.
7. JRJoe Rogan
  They could not get into the emergency room. Complete, total fabrication. They had no cases of ivermectin poisoning. None. Zero. Zilch.
8. KMKurt Metzger
  Not one part-
9. JRJoe Rogan
  Not only that-
10. KMKurt Metzger
  ... of the story.
11. JRJoe Rogan
  ... you can't find any in the whole country. There's none. It's not toxic. It's a lie.
12. KMKurt Metzger
  Right.
13. JRJoe Rogan
  Not only that, the doctor that was in that story hadn't worked in that emergency moom- room for months. It was a complete fabrication. Rolling Stone did no research and just printed it. And then Rachel Maddow tweeted it, and then all these other lefties started tweeting it.
14. KMKurt Metzger
  They all ran the ... Dude, Newsweek and or-
15. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
16. KMKurt Metzger
  ... or To- they all ran the same-
17. JRJoe Rogan
  The same story.
18. KMKurt Metzger
  That's crazy.
19. JRJoe Rogan
  Never looked into it. Never, never verified it. N- journalism has become-
20. KMKurt Metzger
  Yeah.
21. JRJoe Rogan
  ... so clickbait driven that this was a great story, you know, and it was right after I said that I had taken ivermectin, which I also said I had taken monoclonal antibodies, by the way.
22. KMKurt Metzger
  Right.
23. JRJoe Rogan
  Which is Regeneron, which i- Fauci has said keeps 85% of the people who take it out of the hospital.
24. KMKurt Metzger
  Yeah. Oh, horse re-wormer probably?
25. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs) But meanwhile this i- ivermectin is ... there, there's multiple randomized controlled studies on this stuff. There's ...
26. KMKurt Metzger
  The guy got a Nobel Prize and invented it-
27. JRJoe Rogan
  Yes, in 2015.
28. KMKurt Metzger
  ... 'cause it's one of the most important drugs in human history. (laughs)
29. JRJoe Rogan
  It's one of the World Health Organization's essential medicines. And they, the idea that they're just a defaming this drug and defaming me by saying that it's-
30. KMKurt Metzger
  Well, dude-
1:02:26 – 1:08:56
Who’s trustworthy now? Independent media, The Young Turks drama, and ‘team’ thinking
1. KMKurt Metzger
  Yeah, I like that guy. So, uh, she lied about Aaron Mate, who's a very good reporter.
2. JRJoe Rogan
  Yes.
3. KMKurt Metzger
  Okay. I don't mind the truth.
4. JRJoe Rogan
  I know. Okay. I do, I do know about that.
5. KMKurt Metzger
  She said he's a Russian agent and all this nonsense 'cause he reports on Syria. Okay. So then, Jimmy's talking about it on his show, and she sends him like a little blackmail thing, like, "I have this story I've been sitting on."
6. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh, okay. I know what you're talking about now.
7. KMKurt Metzger
  "That you said nice news skirt to me years ago." And it was a threat, like of you, you're gonna stop talking. So he just blew it up himself. (laughs)
8. JRJoe Rogan
  Well, she, she had said... He had said something about her dressing inappropriately. He made a joke about her dressing-
9. KMKurt Metzger
  Right.
10. JRJoe Rogan
  ... inappropriately in the workplace.
11. KMKurt Metzger
  At their frat boy environment where they... I mean-
12. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
13. KMKurt Metzger
  Imagine a man wearing his Daisy Dukes and hanging his balls out of his, out of the side. And a female makes a joke like, "Hey, nice news attire, dude." (laughs) And he's like, "Oh my God, I'm assaulted." Re- And the guy's the boss, by the way.
14. JRJoe Rogan
  Right. But on the other hand, do you give a fuck if a girl wears a skirt and like, has her legs showing at a... Do you give a fuck?
15. KMKurt Metzger
  But he didn't... The whole point is, Jimmy didn't do anything other than like-
16. JRJoe Rogan
  He's just joking.
17. KMKurt Metzger
  Yeah. Like, it's un- Look.
18. JRJoe Rogan
  Right.
19. KMKurt Metzger
  If somebody exposes themselves in front of a room of people, it is uncomfortable to not... As a comedian, it's odd to be like, not say it. So, he apologized to... They were all friend- Like, the message-

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Warm-up riffing: unfiltered honesty and why their sketches hit

How their internet comedy became a “show” worth watching

Branding pain: stolen handles, domains, and the economics of your name

Blue checks as punishment + OJ Simpson’s surreal social media era

From OJ to mob podcasts: criminals as content creators (and Seagal lore)

Whiskey break to awards talk: the messy reality behind Emmys and credit

Inside the writers’ room: diversity hiring, ‘they/them’ confusion, and incentives

Neo-pronouns, TikTok identity trends, and ‘compelled speech’ anxiety

Clown ‘masterclass’ rabbit hole and why ‘teaching’ comedy is suspicious

Actors, auditions, and theater-kid chaos (plus Kyle’s early performance stories)

Joe’s COVID treatment and the ivermectin media narrative

Who’s trustworthy now? Independent media, The Young Turks drama, and ‘team’ thinking

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