Joe Rogan Experience #1707 - Kyle Dunnigan & Kurt Metzger

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast,…

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:00

      (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

   2. NANarrator0:04

      The Joe Rogan Experience. (music) Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. We're up and rolling. This is all on the record, so don't say anything crazy.

   3. KMKurt Metzger0:15

      I'm, I'm terrible in that position. Like, I have to be really... Some people instinctively are like, "We just don't talk about that." I know how to do that. I don't have no... I can't, I can't do that.

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:22

      Yeah, I know you don't. That's what I love about you. You just spit. (laughs)

   5. KMKurt Metzger0:25

      Yeah, that is good. (laughs)

   6. KDKyle Dunnigan0:25

      He says things to people are like, "Oh my God." He said something to a comedian that I won't say, but like, uh, oh my God.

   7. KMKurt Metzger0:32

      Yeah, but it was good-

   8. KDKyle Dunnigan0:32

      It was good advice. He gave some advice. It, it was honest, which is good.

   9. KMKurt Metzger0:35

      One, like one-

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:36

       Did he tell them to kill themselves?

   11. KMKurt Metzger0:38

       (laughs) No. No, it's-

   12. KDKyle Dunnigan0:39

       It was a woman.

   13. KMKurt Metzger0:40

       Uh, uh, uh-

   14. JRJoe Rogan0:40

       Oh, told her to quit?

   15. KMKurt Metzger0:42

       No. No, I... Well, I don't want to get into it. Gonna embarrass me.

   16. JRJoe Rogan0:45

       Yeah, okay. Don't, don't do this.

   17. KMKurt Metzger0:45

       I don't even know if I would do that and upset anyone.

   18. KDKyle Dunnigan0:47

       I won't, I won't say a name. I'm gonna leave.

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:48

       What have you done, Kyle?

   20. KDKyle Dunnigan0:48

       I'm leaving, I'm sorry.

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:50

       (laughs)

   22. KMKurt Metzger0:51

       Why did you...

   23. JRJoe Rogan0:52

       As a team, you two-

   24. KDKyle Dunnigan0:53

       He's just, he's honest, yes.

   25. JRJoe Rogan0:55

       Yeah.

   26. KDKyle Dunnigan0:55

       Go ahead as a team.

   27. JRJoe Rogan0:56

       You two, you two balance each other out in a very odd way.

   28. KDKyle Dunnigan0:58

       We... Yes, we are... We fill gaps.

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:01

       Yeah.

   30. KMKurt Metzger1:01

       Sometimes it feels like-
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   Yeah, they re-engraved one.…

   1. KDKyle Dunnigan15:01

      the way the Emmy is set up, it goes to the producer and the writer of the music. So I got the Emmy, and Kurt, who should have also got an Emmy, was totally blocked out of it. The executive producer ended up giving him an Emmy, just-

   2. KMKurt Metzger15:13

      Yeah, they re-engraved one.

   3. KDKyle Dunnigan15:14

      Re-engraved, yeah.

   4. JRJoe Rogan15:15

      Oh, that's nice.

   5. KMKurt Metzger15:16

      Yeah, very nice of him.

   6. KDKyle Dunnigan15:17

      Also, I was on-

   7. JRJoe Rogan15:18

      But can he give you an Emmy? It's like if I give you an Oscar.

   8. KMKurt Metzger15:20

      It's not real.

   9. JRJoe Rogan15:20

      Does that count?

   10. KMKurt Metzger15:21

       But it's not real, like...

   11. KDKyle Dunnigan15:22

       No, but be cool if you-

   12. JRJoe Rogan15:23

       I'll give you both Oscars.

   13. KDKyle Dunnigan15:25

       Okay, okay.

   14. KMKurt Metzger15:25

       I mean, there was a reason for why, and- and I- I- I couldn't even understand it. It was a whole thing written out.

   15. KDKyle Dunnigan15:31

       I don't understand it either.

   16. JRJoe Rogan15:32

       It's scams. These fucking producers and actors.

   17. KMKurt Metzger15:34

       Yeah, no, they... It was something about not incentivizing... I swear to God.

   18. JRJoe Rogan15:38

       Not incentivizing creative talent?

   19. KMKurt Metzger15:39

       Well, yeah, but then people are just gonna try to write songs to get Emmys or something. (laughs)

   20. JRJoe Rogan15:43

       What?

   21. KDKyle Dunnigan15:43

       It was really-

   22. KMKurt Metzger15:44

       'Cause, uh, it's something with probably with paying for if there's, you know. I don't know. I- I- I- It's-

   23. JRJoe Rogan15:48

       Oh, that business has to die. There's so many fucking corrupt little weird things in that dick.

   24. KMKurt Metzger15:52

       Yeah, why would you want to be-

   25. KDKyle Dunnigan15:53

       Yeah, I don't understand.

   26. JRJoe Rogan15:54

       ... the dick of the business.

   27. KDKyle Dunnigan15:56

       Yeah, it really made no sense, like why.

   28. JRJoe Rogan15:57

       It's a blue vein corruption machine.

   29. KDKyle Dunnigan16:01

       Yeah, and I... There's also a... Every other year they do the best original music on the Emmys, but- but this year it was on FXX, so it was like a taped... They do a whole-

   30. JRJoe Rogan16:11

       What is FXX?
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   You're saying a box…

   1. KDKyle Dunnigan30:00

      to just, like, to be a society we have to have, like, groups. And then you go, okay, it's like men and women, and that, that doesn't quite do it. But then to p-What's happening now, it's like everyone's getting their very, very specific thing they feel. And, and we need to, like, have some folder where we put a bunch. We can't have "other" because everyone's going to feel-

   2. KMKurt Metzger30:18

      You're saying a box called "other."

   3. KDKyle Dunnigan30:20

      (smacks lips) I don't know how many boxes there needs to be, but there, there seems like we're getting to a point... Like this woman who, who every hour changes her gender, like that seems like that... You gotta jump into one of the boxes.

   4. JRJoe Rogan30:30

      She's only a woman sometimes though, dude. Don't be rude.

   5. KDKyle Dunnigan30:32

      Right. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

   6. KMKurt Metzger30:33

      So that chick... Because-

   7. KDKyle Dunnigan30:35

      Fucking rude.

   8. KMKurt Metzger30:36

      ... ass- assuming she doesn't get hu- surgery, I imagine that's a pha-

   9. JRJoe Rogan30:39

      It's a guy.

   10. KMKurt Metzger30:39

       I'm guessing the girl... Yeah, but the girl we're watching with the bracelets, she's... That's clearly a phase, right? Like-

   11. JRJoe Rogan30:45

       A phase, yes.

   12. KMKurt Metzger30:46

       Yeah. Like, I... That... I c- I don't see that one getting into the real world now.

   13. JRJoe Rogan30:50

       Yeah.

   14. KMKurt Metzger30:50

       I didn't see a lot of other shit (laughs) get in the real world, so I could be wrong.

   15. JRJoe Rogan30:53

       She's going to be a Fox News mother when she's 50.

   16. KDKyle Dunnigan30:56

       Yeah.

   17. KMKurt Metzger30:57

       Yeah. Because that's like a... Following a band, that's what that is, right?

   18. KDKyle Dunnigan31:01

       (laughs)

   19. KMKurt Metzger31:01

       That's what my girlfriend said. She goes... My, my girlfriend when she was in high school, she's like, "Everybody was trying to be hardcore. Like, who's the most core?" And then it's like that, but without the band, and then, you know, queer (laughs) instead of core. And that's, that's the whole... You know, like punk was in when I was in high school.

   20. JRJoe Rogan31:15

       Yeah, right. You're a rebel.

   21. KMKurt Metzger31:17

       Yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan31:17

       Yeah. You're a part of the new wave of kids coming up. It's going to change society.

   23. KDKyle Dunnigan31:21

       And you feel shame. You're like, "I'm just a guy." And you're like... You're not in the group.

   24. KMKurt Metzger31:25

       I don't think it was change of society. I think it was just look... Like, be part of a scene and look, look cool. It's just now you don't need a band at all. It's like beyond any kind of punk.

   25. JRJoe Rogan31:33

       But the other thing is it's discriminor... The people that do it, they'll oftentimes discriminate against people who assume traditional gender roles. Like, "Oh, look at you-

   26. KDKyle Dunnigan31:43

       Yeah.

   27. KMKurt Metzger31:43

       Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan31:43

       ... fucking cheerleader."

   29. KDKyle Dunnigan31:44

       Yeah.

   30. KMKurt Metzger31:45

       In the real world, like you were talking about the "they" that screwed up. Like I- I'm curious, like, from that. That's the height of ridiculous, but it's like kids on TikTok. In the real world, what's the level of... What level of ridiculous actually comes out, you know, besides the thing you s- like... You know, like, that's where it kind of matters, right? Like, like outside of, uh, just kids doing it on TikTok. Because that seems like it'll be like a real phased-out trend with, with the bracelet girl, you know?
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   A lot of them.…

   1. KMKurt Metzger45:00

      how much they were, like, debauched (laughs) . Like, they were all-

   2. KDKyle Dunnigan45:03

      A lot of them.

   3. KMKurt Metzger45:03

      ... fucking earlier than any, than the kids from the bad neighborhood. You know what I mean? Like-

   4. JRJoe Rogan45:07

      Right. Right.

   5. KDKyle Dunnigan45:07

      Not where I came from.

   6. KMKurt Metzger45:08

      So what's that... Oh, at Connecticut?

   7. KDKyle Dunnigan45:11

      I, we had... I, I was, like, in the theater thing.

   8. JRJoe Rogan45:14

      In Connecticut?

   9. KDKyle Dunnigan45:14

      We did, we did The Wiz. It was an all-white school. We did The Wiz, which is an all-Black play. And I was the Scare-

   10. JRJoe Rogan45:21

       Did you do blackface?

   11. KDKyle Dunnigan45:22

       No, I was the Scarecrow, so kind of.

   12. JRJoe Rogan45:24

       Did anybody do blackface?

   13. KDKyle Dunnigan45:25

       No. But we had one Black girl in the school and they cast her as a munchkin.

   14. KMKurt Metzger45:30

       (laughs)

   15. KDKyle Dunnigan45:31

       The one Black girl in our whole school was-

   16. JRJoe Rogan45:33

       Why wasn't she the Diana Ross character?

   17. KDKyle Dunnigan45:34

       See, I don't know. I don't know. It's a fact.

   18. JRJoe Rogan45:37

       Fuck.

   19. KDKyle Dunnigan45:37

       This is back, way back when.

   20. KMKurt Metzger45:39

       (laughs)

   21. KDKyle Dunnigan45:39

       The fact we did The Wiz at all, like, "Come on and ease on down the road." They actually had the woman who did it on Broadway, who did the music on Broadway. The director came to our school for a day 'cause our director knew this lady. And she was just so disgusted. She was like, "It's come on, ease on down, ease on down." And we're like, "Ease on?" She couldn't get us to-

   22. KMKurt Metzger45:55

       You were singing it like Ben Shapiro? "Ease on down."

   23. KDKyle Dunnigan45:58

       "Ease on down. Cherries, berries. Ease on down to cherries, berries."

   24. JRJoe Rogan46:00

       That sounds like-

   25. KDKyle Dunnigan46:01

       "It's fine. It's fine."

   26. JRJoe Rogan46:01

       That's the best Ben Shapiro impression ever. When you do Ben Shapiro, I cry. Has he seen it?

   27. KDKyle Dunnigan46:07

       He's so funny. I think you sent, you said you sent him-

   28. JRJoe Rogan46:09

       I know I did.

   29. KDKyle Dunnigan46:09

       ... the Biden-Shapiro one.

   30. JRJoe Rogan46:10

       That's right.
5. 1:00:00 – 1:03:42

   Yeah. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:00:00

      Then you have, uh, the, The Hill. The... I think they do a really good job. Rising, that show Rising, the new people on it. And then the people that left, Crystal and Saagar who now have their show-

   2. KMKurt Metzger1:00:09

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:00:09

      ... Breaking Points, which is fantastic.

   4. KDKyle Dunnigan1:00:11

      Where, what's that on?

   5. KMKurt Metzger1:00:12

      Yeah, I like that show.

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:00:12

      It's on YouTube.

   7. KDKyle Dunnigan1:00:13

      Oh, it's on YouTube. Okay.

   8. JRJoe Rogan1:00:13

      They're, they are undeniable. They're undeniable. They are so honest and so legit and there's never, uh, a slant or they don't l- omit things 'cause it doesn't a- align with their ideology. Also, she's very left wing, he's right wing.

   9. KMKurt Metzger1:00:26

      Right.

   10. JRJoe Rogan1:00:26

       And th- the two of them compliment each other perfectly.

   11. KDKyle Dunnigan1:00:29

       It's good sitcom.

   12. KMKurt Metzger1:00:29

       Yeah, no, it's a good show.

   13. JRJoe Rogan1:00:30

       It's, it's a great show.

   14. KMKurt Metzger1:00:31

       Will they or won't they-

   15. JRJoe Rogan1:00:32

       It's a great show.

   16. KMKurt Metzger1:00:32

       ... is what you're saying.

   17. KDKyle Dunnigan1:00:33

       (laughs)

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:00:34

       (laughs) LOL.

   19. KDKyle Dunnigan1:00:34

       Like, uh, cheers.

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:00:35

       Kyle Kulinski, he's another one. Completely trust him. Y- you know, like, these... there's people that are just honest people.

   21. KMKurt Metzger1:00:41

       He, he really punked out with Jimmy. Like, I was a... very gravely disappointed watching him do that, Kyle Kulinski.

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:00:47

       What do you mean?

   23. KMKurt Metzger1:00:47

       That bullshit The Young Turk tried to do with Jimmy with, uh...... you, you don't remember that whole story?

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:00:52

       Kyle Kulinski did?

   25. KMKurt Metzger1:00:53

       Yeah, but he was working with Young Turks at the time.

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:00:55

       What are you talking about? Kyle Kulinski was never working with Young Turks.

   27. KMKurt Metzger1:00:58

       His channel had something to do with them at the point when it was th- You don't remember the whole Jimmy controversy with Ana Kasparian?

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:01:04

       Kyle Kulinski? Are you sure-

   29. KMKurt Metzger1:01:06

       He waited-

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:01:06

       ... that Kyle Kulinski-

Episode duration: 3:20:54