Joe Rogan Experience #1715 - Jessica Kirson

1. 0:00 – 2:28

   On-stage interruption during Kirson’s special: the infamous water bottle

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:00

      (drumbeats) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

   2. JKJessica Kirson0:04

      The Joe Rogan Experience. (rock music plays)

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. Why the fuck would anybody interrupt your show to do that?

   4. JKJessica Kirson0:15

      Because they're crazy.

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:17

      That is such a dumb thing to do-

   6. JKJessica Kirson0:19

      I know.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:19

      ... interrupt a performance-

   8. JKJessica Kirson0:21

      Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:21

      ... to move a bottle off a stool.

   10. JKJessica Kirson0:23

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:23

       Like, as if someone's at home going, "Well, I was enjoying a performance. She was very funny."

   12. JKJessica Kirson0:27

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:27

       "But that bottle-

   14. JKJessica Kirson0:29

       Right, I mean, I- there would ha- there would-

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:30

       ... that bottle on the stool."

   16. JKJessica Kirson0:30

       ... have been millions of people who would've been upset about the bottle, so it makes sense.

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:34

       Well, was it a product placement thing? Was there a label on the bottle that was a problem?

   18. JKJessica Kirson0:37

       No, it just was bothering someone that there was a bottle in the way.

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:40

       Oh, my God. This is why it's a problem when you have executives and too many cooks in the kitchen.

   20. JKJessica Kirson0:46

       I agree completely.

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:49

       What a fucking nightmare.

   22. JKJessica Kirson0:50

       I was so pissed. I literally went to the microphone and said, "I'm gonna fucking kill myself."

   23. JRJoe Rogan0:56

       (laughs)

   24. JKJessica Kirson0:56

       That was what I said.

   25. JRJoe Rogan0:57

       They should've left that whole thing in.

   26. JKJessica Kirson0:59

       I know. (laughs)

   27. JRJoe Rogan0:59

       Like the person coming on the stage, taking off the bottle, and showing like what other art form would be disrespected like that?

   28. JKJessica Kirson1:06

       Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:07

       Could you imagine Eric Clapton in the middle-

   30. JKJessica Kirson1:08

       (laughs)
2. 2:28 – 5:42

   Rogan’s own special mishap: lights up, crowd shots, and a black-and-white suggestion

   1. JRJoe Rogan2:28

      I was doing a special once, and I always do my specials with the same director. He's a very good friend of mine, I've known him forever, and w- we do all the specials together. But one special he could not do 'cause he had a previous engagement. There's no way he could cancel it, so we brought in someone else. And this p- we told the guy exactly how we wanted to do it, like keep it like a comedy club, make it very dark in there, and then, uh, you know, we d- like, he was like, "What about crowd shots?" I'm like, "We're not gonna use 'em. Don't worry about it. I don't like seeing people's faces."

   2. JKJessica Kirson2:55

      (laughs)

   3. JRJoe Rogan2:55

      They're like, "What about for editing?" I'm like, "We're not gonna do that. Don't worry about it." In the middle of my performance, this motherfucker turns the lights up.

   4. JKJessica Kirson3:02

      (laughs) Oh, my God.

   5. JRJoe Rogan3:03

      He's turning the lights up more and more. And my manager has to-

   6. JKJessica Kirson3:06

      Who does that?

   7. JRJoe Rogan3:06

      ... he has to go back and yell at him, "What the fuck are you doing?"

   8. JKJessica Kirson3:10

      (laughs)

   9. JRJoe Rogan3:10

      He's like, "We gotta see the crowd." Like, "We fucking told you to keep..." And then after all this shit is over, after all it's over-

   10. JKJessica Kirson3:15

       Mm-hmm.

   11. JRJoe Rogan3:16

       ... we're, we're done. I'm like, "Okay, fine. We're fine." He's like, "I think we should do this in black and white." I'm like, "Get the fuck away from me!"

   12. JKJessica Kirson3:23

       (laughs)

   13. JRJoe Rogan3:23

       "The fuck away from me."

   14. JKJessica Kirson3:25

       Subtitles with Chinese-

   15. JRJoe Rogan3:26

       He's got a tr- trucker hat on.

   16. JKJessica Kirson3:27

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan3:27

       He's like, "I really think we should make this in black and white."

   18. JKJessica Kirson3:29

       Yeah, he's clever.

   19. JRJoe Rogan3:30

       It'd be really cool.

   20. JKJessica Kirson3:33

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan3:33

       (sighs) Although-

   22. JKJessica Kirson3:33

       Then they're like, "Can you do the material over?" I'm like-

   23. JRJoe Rogan3:36

       Oh, my-

   24. JKJessica Kirson3:36

       ... "Are you out of your mind?"

   25. JRJoe Rogan3:37

       Oh, my God.

   26. JKJessica Kirson3:38

       No.

   27. JRJoe Rogan3:39

       "Oh, my God. Can you do the material over? Hey-"

   28. JKJessica Kirson3:41

       No.

   29. JRJoe Rogan3:41

       "... hey, clown."

   30. JKJessica Kirson3:42

       (laughs)
3. 5:42 – 8:28

   Streaming reality: Comedy Central airs once, YouTube works forever

   1. JKJessica Kirson5:42

      It was a nightmare. And then it w- then i- of course 'cause it was on Comedy Central, it was on once. This is the thing. Everyone was like, "The fact that you can't get a special is fucking crazy," and I agreed. I am very humble, but the fact that I couldn't get a special was insane.

   2. JRJoe Rogan5:58

      You're very funny.

   3. JKJessica Kirson5:58

      Thank you. That's very sweet.

   4. JRJoe Rogan6:00

      You're very, very funny.

   5. JKJessica Kirson6:00

      Thank you. So Bill called me and was like, "I'm producing your special." I'm like, "Great. Thank you." I mean, it was just insane. So then they put it on once.... like, all that material I worked on for years, it was on one time.

   6. JRJoe Rogan6:15

      And then it's probably on the Comedy Central app now.

   7. JKJessica Kirson6:16

      Right. Who goes on that?

   8. JRJoe Rogan6:18

      There's like five people on that.

   9. JKJessica Kirson6:20

      (laughs)

   10. JRJoe Rogan6:20

       They're downloading South Park right now-

   11. JKJessica Kirson6:22

       (laughs)

   12. JRJoe Rogan6:23

       ... for a plane trip. The, the problem with all these fucking apps-

   13. JKJessica Kirson6:26

       No one watched it. (laughs)

   14. JRJoe Rogan6:26

       ... and streaming services is like there's so many of them and they all cost like $10.

   15. JKJessica Kirson6:31

       Right.

   16. JRJoe Rogan6:31

       How many of them are you gonna have? If you have-

   17. JKJessica Kirson6:32

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan6:32

       ... Hulu and you got Disney and you got ESPN+ and HBO Max, what the fuck else are you gonna get? You're not gonna keep-

   19. JKJessica Kirson6:38

       No one watched it.

   20. JRJoe Rogan6:39

       ... Netflix. You're not gonna keep buying them.

   21. JKJessica Kirson6:41

       Right. N- no one... Seven people watched my special. (laughs)

   22. JRJoe Rogan6:44

       The only one that's free I think is Amazon, right? Isn't Amazon Prime... Isn't that free?

   23. JVJamie Vernon6:49

       No, you have to have a subscription to Amazon and it's, it included with that, but-

   24. JRJoe Rogan6:52

       But does Amazon cost money, Amazon Prime subscription?

   25. JVJamie Vernon6:55

       Yeah, yeah, for like the first year.

   26. JKJessica Kirson6:56

       Yeah, they all cost money.

   27. JVJamie Vernon6:56

       It's the same thing. It's like $10 a month or $100 a year.

   28. JRJoe Rogan6:59

       Oh, does it?

   29. JVJamie Vernon6:59

       Yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan7:00

       Hm.
4. 8:28 – 10:34

   Censorship fears and alternative platforms: YouTube, Rumble, Vimeo

   1. JRJoe Rogan8:28

      Yeah. But my worry is (clears throat) if you do something controversial and it's on YouTube and then YouTube decides to pull it down, 'cause YouTube's been censoring things like crazy.

   2. JKJessica Kirson8:36

      I know. That's the new thing now.

   3. JRJoe Rogan8:38

      Yeah, it's, it's insane. It's insane. It's like-

   4. JKJessica Kirson8:41

      I-

   5. JRJoe Rogan8:41

      ... they just decide to censor things based on ideology or based on what they think, you know, like could be like what the current science is. Like for the longest time if you had a video on that talked about the lab leak hypothesis, like Facebook would just remove it. They would just take it down.

   6. JKJessica Kirson8:58

      Yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan8:58

      But now, now that's the primary hypothesis about how COVID got leaked, it's from a lab. S- the mo- most scientists believe that now. But if you went back a year ago when this was all going on-

   8. JKJessica Kirson9:10

      Mm-hmm.

   9. JRJoe Rogan9:10

      ... and especially when Trump was president, nobody believed it. Everybody was like, "This is a, a terrible, dangerous conspiracy theory and if you have this up, we're gonna delete things." And so they're doing that with all kinds of stuff on, on YouTube. And it's not just, uh, having to do with COVID, it's having to do with all kinds of things, in politics and anything where they find that what you are doing doesn't fit into their narrow, rigid box of what's, what's acceptable.

   10. JKJessica Kirson9:35

       Yeah, isn't there a way for you to do it not on YouTube for free?

   11. JRJoe Rogan9:39

       I don't know. Not as effectively.

   12. JKJessica Kirson9:41

       There... No?

   13. JRJoe Rogan9:41

       I mean, I could put it on Vimeo, I could put it on... There's a bunch of other... What is that one? Bumblebee? What is that one? No, the-

   14. JKJessica Kirson9:47

       Bumblebee?

   15. JRJoe Rogan9:48

       Isn't that a... No, that's a dating website.

   16. JKJessica Kirson9:49

       That's tuna.

   17. JRJoe Rogan9:50

       Rumble. Yeah. Oh, right. Bumblebee Tuna.

   18. JKJessica Kirson9:52

       Is it Bumblebee Tuna?

   19. JRJoe Rogan9:53

       << Bum, bum, bumblebee, bumblebee tuna >>

   20. JKJessica Kirson9:54

       I'm so out of it. Oh yeah, I love that song.

   21. JRJoe Rogan9:56

       Remember that?

   22. JKJessica Kirson9:57

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan9:57

       Yeah. We're old. (laughs)

   24. JKJessica Kirson10:00

       (laughs) Oh yeah, I love that song. That's an amazing song.

   25. JRJoe Rogan10:02

       That was a g- "I used to hear it on the radio. It got me excited."

   26. JKJessica Kirson10:06

       (laughs) J- Harv- Harvey and I used to dance to that in the kitchen.

   27. JRJoe Rogan10:09

       There's Rumble and Odyssey is another one. Odyssey like S- B- E.

   28. JKJessica Kirson10:14

       Vimeo's good.

   29. JRJoe Rogan10:14

       Yeah, Vimeo's good. But the thing is like in terms of traffic, no one can fuck with YouTube.

   30. JKJessica Kirson10:18

       I know, but they're gonna... With you especially, I feel like they would n- go right to that special and look at it and be like, "I don't know."
5. 10:34 – 13:16

   When audiences take jokes literally: taboo humor, outrage, and bad comics as pundits

   1. JRJoe Rogan10:34

      Well, we're in this weird class of humans that are allowed to talk shit and we can say things-

   2. JKJessica Kirson10:40

      That's what I mean.

   3. JRJoe Rogan10:40

      ... that we don't really mean that are like completely the opposite-

   4. JKJessica Kirson10:44

      (laughs)

   5. JRJoe Rogan10:44

      ... of what you're supposed to be allowed to say.

   6. JKJessica Kirson10:45

      I know.

   7. JRJoe Rogan10:46

      Yeah.

   8. JKJessica Kirson10:46

      We're just talking out of our asses. (laughs)

   9. JRJoe Rogan10:48

      We're... No, it's... We're doing it because the sa- the same reason I always say like cl- when Quentin Tarantino has someone murdered in a movie, that's not real.

   10. JKJessica Kirson10:56

       (laughs) I know. Right.

   11. JRJoe Rogan10:57

       Right? No one really died.

   12. JKJessica Kirson10:58

       Right.

   13. JRJoe Rogan10:58

       Bob Marley didn't shoot the sheriff.

   14. JKJessica Kirson11:00

       (laughs) That's so funny.

   15. JRJoe Rogan11:02

       We're, we're, we're not really saying what we're saying. We're saying it 'cause it's a funny thing to say.

   16. JKJessica Kirson11:06

       I know. I have a joke that I took ecstasy and motorboated my Aunt Sheila.

   17. JRJoe Rogan11:09

       (laughs)

   18. JKJessica Kirson11:10

       And people moan in the audience. I'm like, "Do you really think that I motorboated my aunt?" Like it's so...

   19. JRJoe Rogan11:18

       (laughs) A lot of people are like googling motorboating.

   20. JKJessica Kirson11:20

       They go, "Uh..." I'm like, "No, I didn't." Right, no.

   21. JRJoe Rogan11:24

       Right.

   22. JKJessica Kirson11:24

       I didn't put my face in my aunt's tits-

   23. JRJoe Rogan11:26

       That's what I heard.

   24. JKJessica Kirson11:26

       ... and go .......................... You know? I didn't do it.

   25. JRJoe Rogan11:29

       I believe you.

   26. JKJessica Kirson11:29

       You believe everything I'm saying. Like they just believe everything.

   27. JRJoe Rogan11:33

       It's comedy.

   28. JKJessica Kirson11:34

       Right.

   29. JRJoe Rogan11:34

       Yeah. That-

   30. JKJessica Kirson11:34

       It's all an exaggeration.
6. 13:16 – 17:02

   Pandemic touring backlash, parenting pressure, and Kirson’s family realities

   1. JRJoe Rogan13:16

      They're just not good at it. And they, they wanna criticize people who are touring. "You shouldn't be touring. It's a pandemic." They wanna criticize people-

   2. JKJessica Kirson13:23

      Well, that I, that made me crazy.

   3. JRJoe Rogan13:26

      Yeah, f-

   4. JKJessica Kirson13:26

      Sorry. I have four children, and when people were... When I decided that I needed to go out and work in a safe way, um, and people were saying stuff like that, I got really pissed.

   5. JRJoe Rogan13:38

      And who were those people? Was it Chris Rock?

   6. JKJessica Kirson13:41

      No. (laughs)

   7. JRJoe Rogan13:41

      W- Was it, was it Louis CK?

   8. JKJessica Kirson13:42

      It was Bruce Vilanch. No, I'm joking.

   9. JRJoe Rogan13:44

      It's people that don't work anyway.

   10. JKJessica Kirson13:46

       No, right. It was, it was very upsetting. I, I don't feel that I have the right to judge anyone for anything they do. I mean, it, that's my decision, and I'm... And, you know, for anyone to judge me when I need to work or when I'm gonna work, whatever, that's what I need to do, you know? I support my family.

   11. JRJoe Rogan14:02

       Yeah.

   12. JKJessica Kirson14:02

       And I had to get out and start working. I had to.

   13. JRJoe Rogan14:05

       Yeah.

   14. JKJessica Kirson14:05

       Um, these also were people a lot of times that didn't have kids-

   15. JRJoe Rogan14:09

       Right.

   16. JKJessica Kirson14:10

       ... that don't have a family.

   17. JRJoe Rogan14:11

       Right.

   18. JKJessica Kirson14:12

       Um, and, yeah, it usually was people who, who weren't working a lot. (laughs)

   19. JRJoe Rogan14:17

       Yeah.

   20. JKJessica Kirson14:18

       Who didn't, you know, weren't on the road.

   21. JRJoe Rogan14:20

       What it is, is there was a, there was a time where everybody's life was shit.

   22. JKJessica Kirson14:24

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan14:24

       And everything shut down. And then when people started going back, the people whose lives were always shit were like, "No, no, no. We all stay in this together." There was this thing where they didn't want everything to go back to normal. And some of 'em publicly declared it. Some of the shittiest people online publicly were declaring that they don't want things to go back to normal. Because what they're dealing with is, like, this overwhelming anxiety. They're, uh, you know, this chosen profession is not bearing fruit. They're in this position where they know it's never really gonna work out, but yet they're kind of working sort of, and then they're just shitting on people that are getting out of this slump and moving on with their lives.

   24. JKJessica Kirson15:04

       Yeah, I don't get it. It's like, it's okay for you and you can choose whatever you want. And if you wanna stay home, I totally respect that. But what does that have to do with me and my life?

   25. JRJoe Rogan15:13

       Well, now you're talking like a rational person.

   26. JKJessica Kirson15:15

       Right. Why is someone judging me for my choices? I don't judge anyone for their choices. I don't get it.

   27. JRJoe Rogan15:22

       I'm a big fan of judging people for their choices. It's fun.

   28. JKJessica Kirson15:24

       (laughs) No, I'm serious.

   29. JRJoe Rogan15:27

       (laughs) I am, too. I judge 'em. I just d- I won't attack 'em publicly.

   30. JKJessica Kirson15:30

       No, I'm saying that, that, but, w- I think that's what I'm saying.
7. 17:02 – 20:45

   Space-helmet masks and pandemic absurdity: Reggie Watts’ HEPA gear

   1. JRJoe Rogan17:02

      Have you seen those, uh, helmets that you can get?

   2. JKJessica Kirson17:05

      Oh, my God. What kinda helmet? What-

   3. JRJoe Rogan17:06

      There's a helmet that you can get that's like a HEPA filter. It, it cinches tight around your neck. You look like you're a space alien.

   4. JKJessica Kirson17:11

      I wanna-

   5. JRJoe Rogan17:12

      It has a fan in it. We have one here.

   6. JKJessica Kirson17:13

      No, what the hell is that?

   7. JRJoe Rogan17:15

      We have it in the room.

   8. JVJamie Vernon17:15

      It's not there, but actually, Reggie got a better, maybe it's slightly better.

   9. JRJoe Rogan17:18

      Reggie got a better one?

   10. JVJamie Vernon17:19

       I mean, I'll die. It looks better or something. I'm just trying to see if you guys can tell the difference.

   11. JRJoe Rogan17:20

       Go to his Instagram. He's got a better one?

   12. JKJessica Kirson17:21

       I'm dying to see what this helmet looks like.

   13. JRJoe Rogan17:22

       Reggie, Reggie Watts was the one who told me about this, and he actually wore it flying. It's hilarious. It's-

   14. JKJessica Kirson17:27

       (laughs)

   15. JRJoe Rogan17:27

       You're, you ev- It's like a motorcycle helmet, I guess.

   16. JKJessica Kirson17:29

       I don't know why I'm already laughing. It's-

   17. JRJoe Rogan17:31

       It's, it's amazing. Let's show, let's, let's look at a video of it 'cause Reggie w- This is actually...

   18. JKJessica Kirson17:35

       (gasps)

   19. JRJoe Rogan17:35

       Oh, this is his new one?

   20. JVJamie Vernon17:36

       It's his new one. Yeah, yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan17:37

       Oh, my God.

   22. JKJessica Kirson17:37

       Holy shit.

   23. JRJoe Rogan17:38

       The new one's actually more disturbing. Reggie's so crazy. Look at, he's playing music and shit. (laughs)

   24. JKJessica Kirson17:45

       Oh, my God. (laughs)

   25. JRJoe Rogan17:47

       Is, is that real though? Is that what that is?

   26. JVJamie Vernon17:49

       Yeah, yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan17:49

       That's what it's for?

   28. JVJamie Vernon17:50

       Yeah, yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan17:51

       But it, that one-

   30. JVJamie Vernon17:51

       There's a video of him talking with it. I thought that's what it was gonna be, but...
8. 20:45 – 23:48

   Staying creative during lockdown: Zoom shows, prank-call album ‘Call Girls’

   1. JRJoe Rogan20:45

      Yeah. How much time did you take off from, from skit?

   2. JKJessica Kirson20:48

      I didn't. I'm crazy.

   3. JRJoe Rogan20:50

      You d- you just did... Performed the whole time?

   4. JKJessica Kirson20:52

      I took a little time off, and then I did Zoom shows. I, I can't, I can't take a lot of time off 'cause I'll go outta my mind.

   5. JRJoe Rogan20:59

      Ah, Zoom shows.

   6. JKJessica Kirson20:59

      I'm like an animal.

   7. JRJoe Rogan21:00

      Zoom shows are death.

   8. JKJessica Kirson21:01

      It was horrible.

   9. JRJoe Rogan21:02

      Oof.

   10. JKJessica Kirson21:02

       But I also did shows... Um, well, Rachel Feinstein and I, who's amazing, made a prank album during that time.

   11. JRJoe Rogan21:10

       Oh.

   12. JKJessica Kirson21:10

       So we just pranked-

   13. JRJoe Rogan21:11

       Stay creative.

   14. JKJessica Kirson21:11

       ... businesses, yeah, through the whole thing. It just came out Friday.

   15. JRJoe Rogan21:15

       Oh, nice.

   16. JKJessica Kirson21:15

       Um, it's called Call Girls, and it was hilarious.

   17. JRJoe Rogan21:17

       (laughs) That's a great name.

   18. JKJessica Kirson21:18

       Isn't it a great name?

   19. JRJoe Rogan21:19

       Do you remember the-

   20. JKJessica Kirson21:19

       A fan thought of it.

   21. JRJoe Rogan21:20

       Do you remember The Jerky Boys?

   22. JKJessica Kirson21:22

       Yes, it's like that! We called businesses and harassed them through, throughout all of COVID. (laughs)

   23. JRJoe Rogan21:27

       (laughs)

   24. JKJessica Kirson21:27

       And we recorded it with, um, with Virtual Comedy Network-

   25. JRJoe Rogan21:31

       Greg Fitzsimmons-

   26. JKJessica Kirson21:32

       ... my manager's company.

   27. JRJoe Rogan21:32

       ... did that many years ago. He recorded-

   28. JKJessica Kirson21:34

       He's so funny.

   29. JRJoe Rogan21:34

       He's hilarious.

   30. JKJessica Kirson21:35

       Ugh.
9. 23:48 – 26:00

   Old tech nostalgia and new prank culture: *69, caller ID, and Kitboga

   1. JRJoe Rogan23:48

      I remember when I was a kid... Okay, this I do remember. They came up with the new way of finding out who called you. You'd press *69.

   2. JKJessica Kirson23:57

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan23:58

      'Cause it used to be when a phone call came in, you had no idea who was calling you.

   4. JKJessica Kirson24:01

      Right.

   5. JRJoe Rogan24:01

      And it was just a random gamble to answer the phone. But then-

   6. JKJessica Kirson24:05

      (laughs)

   7. JRJoe Rogan24:05

      ... when people would call and talk shit, you could press *69 to call them back.

   8. JKJessica Kirson24:09

      Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan24:09

      That was right after the invention of, like, you know, like digital lines. They had like lines that, like when someone would call you, you'd actually see caller ID. I remember that being a revelation.

   10. JKJessica Kirson24:20

       Yeah. Huge.

   11. JRJoe Rogan24:21

       This is madness. I can see the person.

   12. JKJessica Kirson24:23

       (laughs)

   13. JRJoe Rogan24:25

       Or here's, here's one, kids. Um, call screening. You would let it go to voicemail, and then your, your answering machine would pick up and they'd be like, "Hi, Jesse, it's Mike." You're like, "Oh, hi, Mike." And then you would have this fucking recorded conversation on your answering machine of you... And you'd have to figure out how to shut it off while you're talking to the person.

   14. JKJessica Kirson24:45

       How crazy that that was so big when we... (laughs) We're at like...If, if people... Like, this is what our parents used to say.

   15. JRJoe Rogan24:53

       Yeah.

   16. JKJessica Kirson24:53

       But that was, like, huge when we were growing up.

   17. JRJoe Rogan24:56

       Giant.

   18. JKJessica Kirson24:56

       Like, call waiting.

   19. JRJoe Rogan24:57

       Oh, my God.

   20. JKJessica Kirson24:58

       And merging a call.

   21. JRJoe Rogan24:59

       Oh, my God.

   22. JKJessica Kirson25:00

       Huge!

   23. JRJoe Rogan25:01

       Another person's calling? Hold please.

   24. JKJessica Kirson25:02

       (laughs)

   25. JRJoe Rogan25:04

       It was crazy. Like, how is this possible? I could just call and talk to people forever.

   26. JVJamie Vernon25:07

       Have, have you ever seen any videos of this kid doing pranks at all?

   27. JRJoe Rogan25:09

       No.

   28. JKJessica Kirson25:10

       Yes. It's hilarious.

   29. JVJamie Vernon25:11

       So, he dresses up and he... He'll do a voice changing like his, uh... Like a... He sounds like an old woman, but he says he's getting revenge for pranks on his grandmother, so he'll try to bait these scammers and keep them online as long as possible.

   30. JRJoe Rogan25:23

       And w- what is this guy's name?
10. 26:00 – 34:23

    Identity jokes, cancel culture, and why Jewish people eat Chinese food

    1. JKJessica Kirson26:00

       The best is when the ones who... Have you ever seen the ones where they have the two... They'll call two Asian restaurants and just have them talk to each other?

    2. JRJoe Rogan26:07

       Oh, my God.

    3. JKJessica Kirson26:08

       It's ama-... It's hist-... (imitates Asian accent) "Hello? Hello? Hello? Hello?" (laughs)

    4. JRJoe Rogan26:15

       You can't even do that anymore. Now it's racist. Or are you too racist?

    5. JKJessica Kirson26:17

       I know. I'm gonna get canceled for what I just did.

    6. JRJoe Rogan26:18

       Yeah, you should, you should get canceled. I don't like-

    7. JKJessica Kirson26:20

       (laughs)

    8. JRJoe Rogan26:20

       ... the way you're saying those words.

    9. JKJessica Kirson26:22

       I just said hello.

    10. JRJoe Rogan26:24

        Yeah, but I didn't like the u- undertones.

    11. JKJessica Kirson26:26

        Do you feel triggered?

    12. JRJoe Rogan26:27

        Yeah, fucking for sure.

    13. JKJessica Kirson26:30

        (laughs)

    14. JRJoe Rogan26:30

        Hello?

    15. JKJessica Kirson26:30

        (laughs)

    16. JRJoe Rogan26:31

        Yeah, you can't even do an Asian accent or you're a bad person. But what if that's what they sound like? No, you can't imitate it.

    17. JKJessica Kirson26:37

        (laughs)

    18. JRJoe Rogan26:37

        Okay.

    19. JKJessica Kirson26:38

        (laughs)

    20. JRJoe Rogan26:39

        You have to just give up. Like, I give up.

    21. JKJessica Kirson26:41

        I do a Jewish grandmother and I'm Jewish, and I get in trouble.

    22. JRJoe Rogan26:45

        You can get away with that, though.

    23. JKJessica Kirson26:45

        By... People get upset with me. I was called antisemitic on Twitter, I mean, on TikTok, 'cause I did-

    24. JRJoe Rogan26:49

        That's... Do they know that you're Jewish, though?

    25. JKJessica Kirson26:50

        Yes!

    26. JRJoe Rogan26:51

        Well, then, they're retarded.

    27. JKJessica Kirson26:52

        (laughs) You can't say that!

    28. JRJoe Rogan26:54

        But I did.

    29. JKJessica Kirson26:55

        Yeah, but you're not allowed.

    30. JRJoe Rogan26:57

        But I'm on Spotify. You can get away with it.
11. 34:23 – 42:51

    Equine therapy to Mr. Hands: a dark spiral into extreme internet content

    1. JKJessica Kirson34:23

       I mean, I didn't think we were gonna be able to go out again. I was like... I can be very negative and go into, like, you know, a dark place and think the worst, and it really... I- I started seeing a trauma therapist who sent me to do therapy with a horse.

    2. JRJoe Rogan34:39

       Oh, a horse.

    3. JKJessica Kirson34:39

       This is a true story. An e- equine therapy. Have you ever heard of that?

    4. JRJoe Rogan34:43

       I have because, uh, Whitney Cummings.

    5. JKJessica Kirson34:45

       Oh, right. (laughs)

    6. JRJoe Rogan34:46

       Yeah, Whitney owns a... She owns at least one horse.

    7. JKJessica Kirson34:50

       Yeah. Yeah, she's very-

    8. JRJoe Rogan34:51

       And she does that.

    9. JKJessica Kirson34:52

       ... into that.

    10. JRJoe Rogan34:52

        Yeah.

    11. JKJessica Kirson34:52

        Yeah. Well, my mom's a therapist. So my mom suggested a trauma therapist who sent me to do therapy with a horse.

    12. JRJoe Rogan35:00

        How does that work?

    13. JKJessica Kirson35:01

        And it was supposed to calm me, but I don't know if you realize how big horses are. It scared the-

    14. JRJoe Rogan35:05

        Fucking huge.

    15. JKJessica Kirson35:06

        ... fucking shit out of me. (laughs)

    16. JRJoe Rogan35:08

        (laughs) What if, what if you got kicked? You go to get therapy...

    17. JKJessica Kirson35:11

        No, it was worse. I walked... First of all, I walked up to this horse. It was so big that it traumat- I'm not saying it to be funny. It traumatized me. It was, like, enormous. Its cock was out.

    18. JRJoe Rogan35:23

        Oh.

    19. JKJessica Kirson35:23

        Which I... (laughs) Well, it didn't turn me on. (laughs) I mean, first of all, I'm gay, so this thing was, like, fucking huge. It was a whiffle bat. It was the biggest thing-

    20. JRJoe Rogan35:33

        Oh, they're enormous.

    21. JKJessica Kirson35:34

        Enormous.

    22. JRJoe Rogan35:35

        Have... Do you-

    23. JKJessica Kirson35:36

        (laughs)

    24. JRJoe Rogan35:36

        ... know about Mr. Hands?

    25. JKJessica Kirson35:38

        Who's Mr. Hands?

    26. JRJoe Rogan35:39

        Okay.

    27. JKJessica Kirson35:41

        What?

    28. JRJoe Rogan35:42

        There's a documentary called Zoo, and Zoo is about people that have zoophilia. And it's like, you know pedophilia, they're into kids.

    29. JKJessica Kirson35:50

        Yeah.

    30. JRJoe Rogan35:51

        Zoophilia, they're into animals. And they're sexually... Excuse me, I gotta (clears throat) . They're sexually attracted to animals, which is a thing.
12. 42:51 – 52:44

    Your Mom’s House Live: scat, self-harm videos, and what it says about people

    1. JRJoe Rogan42:51

       You know, um-... uh, the episode that you did of Your Mom's House Live, I don't think it had this in there, but other ones they have had where guys were fisting each other.

    2. JKJessica Kirson43:01

       There was a lot of fisting.

    3. JRJoe Rogan43:02

       Was there?

    4. JKJessica Kirson43:02

       Yeah, there was fisting and then there was shitting and then there was shoving the shit back in the ass. It was a lot.

    5. JRJoe Rogan43:07

       Hmm.

    6. JKJessica Kirson43:08

       I've, I've have not been totally okay since that. This is nothing compared to what I watched.

    7. JRJoe Rogan43:12

       Did they warn you?

    8. JKJessica Kirson43:13

       Yes! I had a... You know how many fans sent me messages saying, "I hope you're gonna be okay."

    9. JRJoe Rogan43:18

       (laughs)

    10. JKJessica Kirson43:18

        I'm like, "What is gonna happen to me? Am I gonna be assaulted?" Like, what if-

    11. JRJoe Rogan43:22

        Did they let you know that we're gonna see some horrific shit?

    12. JKJessica Kirson43:26

        No, they didn't tell me. The fans, hundreds of fans kept sending me messages-

    13. JRJoe Rogan43:30

        Oh, my God.

    14. JKJessica Kirson43:30

        ... going, "I hope you're ready."

    15. JRJoe Rogan43:31

        (laughs)

    16. JKJessica Kirson43:32

        "I hope you have a good stomach."

    17. JRJoe Rogan43:33

        (laughs)

    18. JKJessica Kirson43:33

        "Don't eat a lot before the show." I'm like...

    19. JRJoe Rogan43:36

        Oh my God.

    20. JKJessica Kirson43:37

        Yeah, this was-

    21. JRJoe Rogan43:39

        Yeah.

    22. JKJessica Kirson43:39

        This is the preview. This wasn't-

    23. JRJoe Rogan43:41

        And this is at the Paramount, right?

    24. JKJessica Kirson43:41

        Yeah, this was the show. Yeah, this is what happened.

    25. JRJoe Rogan43:44

        Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I didn't, uh, I didn't make it to that one. I wanted to go though. I was unfortunately out of town.

    26. JKJessica Kirson43:49

        Look, this was-

    27. JRJoe Rogan43:50

        But I'm doing the next one.

    28. JKJessica Kirson43:51

        You are?

    29. JRJoe Rogan43:52

        Yeah, I'm doing the one in nuh, November.

    30. JKJessica Kirson43:54

        Oh, I'm so-
13. 52:44 – 1:02:25

    Adult content platforms and culture wars: OnlyFans, banks, Chick-fil-A, Prop 8

    1. JRJoe Rogan52:44

       But like, you couldn't do that... Like, like, well, Patreon backed off. Not Patreon. Um, what was it? Only Fans.

    2. JKJessica Kirson52:51

       Yeah.

    3. JRJoe Rogan52:52

       Only Fans was saying, "We're not gonna have naked content anymore."

    4. JKJessica Kirson52:55

       Patreon's gotten stricter too, right? Much stricter.

    5. JRJoe Rogan52:57

       They've definitely... Well-

    6. JKJessica Kirson52:59

       Yeah.

    7. JRJoe Rogan52:59

       ... the, the problem is like when someone complains. If someone complains and then Vox runs a story on it, then they're gonna wanna ban you.

    8. JKJessica Kirson53:06

       Mm-hmm.

    9. JRJoe Rogan53:06

       But if like... Only Fans, for a while, (clears throat) they were talking about not having any naked content and not having any pornograph-... And then they realized that's 90% of the people on Only Fans.

    10. JKJessica Kirson53:17

        Right.

    11. JRJoe Rogan53:18

        And they backed off of it.

    12. JKJessica Kirson53:19

        Oh, they backed off? I didn't know they backed off of that.

    13. JRJoe Rogan53:21

        Yeah, that's, it's great that they did. That's nice.

    14. JKJessica Kirson53:24

        Mm-hmm.

    15. JRJoe Rogan53:25

        It's a, it's a win for freedom.

    16. JKJessica Kirson53:27

        Yeah.

    17. JRJoe Rogan53:28

        But-

    18. JKJessica Kirson53:28

        Of course. I mean, listen, you can go... (laughs) You can get free porn anytime you want. I mean, it's ridiculous.

    19. JRJoe Rogan53:36

        Yeah.

    20. JKJessica Kirson53:36

        Who cares?

    21. JRJoe Rogan53:37

        But I think the thing was banks. I, my, my throat is so scratchy. I'm sorry. I gotta clear my throat. (clears throat) The uh, the thing is banks, 'cause banks, for whatever reason, they don't wanna be involved in naked people.

    22. JKJessica Kirson53:51

        Well, they wanna be involved with naked people, just not publicly.

    23. JRJoe Rogan53:54

        Right.

    24. JKJessica Kirson53:55

        (laughs)

    25. JRJoe Rogan53:55

        They want the money...

    26. JKJessica Kirson53:56

        Right.

    27. JRJoe Rogan53:56

        But they don't wanna be shamed.

    28. JKJessica Kirson53:58

        Yeah.

    29. JRJoe Rogan53:58

        So they don't wanna like get in trouble, whether it's sponsors or other business relationships they have.

    30. JKJessica Kirson54:04

        Mm-hmm.
14. 1:02:25 – 1:20:08

    Conversion stories and gospel energy: ‘I’m not gay no more’ and church enthusiasm

    1. JRJoe Rogan1:02:25

       I read this story about a pray the gay away camp where the- these guys would literally cuddle.

    2. JKJessica Kirson1:02:31

       Ugh.

    3. JRJoe Rogan1:02:31

       And the guy said that during this pra- pray the gay away camp, this man was behind him, holding onto him. They were seated on the ground and he clearly had his hard-on pressed against this guy's back.

    4. JKJessica Kirson1:02:41

       Oh my God.

    5. JRJoe Rogan1:02:42

       And he's holding onto him and they're talking about praying the gay away. Like-

    6. JKJessica Kirson1:02:46

       Is that ... You know, I lived-

    7. JRJoe Rogan1:02:47

       (laughs)

    8. JKJessica Kirson1:02:47

       ... with my friend who went to a, a workshop to try and not be gay. (laughs)

    9. JRJoe Rogan1:02:53

       (laughs)

    10. JKJessica Kirson1:02:53

        This is amazing.

    11. JRJoe Rogan1:02:54

        Workshopped it.

    12. JKJessica Kirson1:02:55

        No, for like a six-week thing.

    13. JRJoe Rogan1:02:57

        Wow.

    14. JKJessica Kirson1:02:58

        And he couldn't masturbate. You know, they d- they, th- you don't ... 'Cause if you ... He was Orthodox, and if you masturbate, you, you know, you, you waste seed. Did you ever know that?

    15. JRJoe Rogan1:03:07

        Well, not only that, you're supposed to, like ... It's you're impregnating a demon in the other world.

    16. JKJessica Kirson1:03:11

        I know, it's fucking so crazy.

    17. JRJoe Rogan1:03:13

        Ari has a bit about it. Does she do it?

    18. JKJessica Kirson1:03:14

        I know. I love talking to Ari about all this shit.

    19. JRJoe Rogan1:03:17

        (laughs)

    20. JKJessica Kirson1:03:17

        So, he, he was going to this thing and they were telling him it's because his father passed when he was a kid. You know, it's all this shit why he's ... And he's not really gay, and he can not be gay. He's the gayest person. I mean, it's completely, "Hi, how are you?" You know, it's completely-

    21. JRJoe Rogan1:03:32

        (laughs)

    22. JKJessica Kirson1:03:32

        What's ... He goes, "I love pussy now."

    23. JRJoe Rogan1:03:34

        Yeah.

    24. JKJessica Kirson1:03:34

        "I'm totally not gay anymore." So, um, so I lived with him and I ... He was, became the biggest asshole 'cause he wasn't masturbating. I finally said to him, "If you don't jerk off soon, I'm, we're not gonna be friends anymore."

    25. JRJoe Rogan1:03:45

        (laughs)

    26. JKJessica Kirson1:03:45

        "Like, I'm gonna jerk ..." I'm like, "I haven't touched a penis in 20 years, but I will suck your dick-

    27. JRJoe Rogan1:03:50

        (laughs)

    28. JKJessica Kirson1:03:50

        ... just so that we stay friends." Like, this is horrible.

    29. JRJoe Rogan1:03:53

        If I was him, I would say, "Well-

    30. JKJessica Kirson1:03:54

        (laughs)

Episode duration: 2:32:17