The Joe Rogan ExperienceJoe Rogan Experience #1725 - Bridget Phetasy
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150 min read · 30,032 words- 0:01 – 5:15
Twitter outrage, Fauci puppy experiments, and the lab-leak narrative shift
- JRJoe Rogan
(drumming) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.
- BPBridget Phetasy
The Joe Rogan Experience.
- JRJoe Rogan
Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music plays)
- BPBridget Phetasy
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Are we rolling? (clears throat) What's good, catch up?
- BPBridget Phetasy
I said, we're just gonna catch up.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh.
- BPBridget Phetasy
It's been a year.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's been a year, yeah.
- BPBridget Phetasy
And you've been trending on Twitter for that entire year.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh. (laughs)
- BPBridget Phetasy
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
It's not my fault, those fucking dorks. Get out of the house, losers.
- BPBridget Phetasy
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Go pay attention to real life shit-
- BPBridget Phetasy
(laughs) Every time I go on-
- JRJoe Rogan
... while Fauci's out there torturing puppies.
- BPBridget Phetasy
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
You see that shit?
- BPBridget Phetasy
I, yeah, I saw. I didn't-
- JRJoe Rogan
Did you watch, did you read that article?
- BPBridget Phetasy
I didn't read the article. I shut off... I can't look at puppy torture.
- JRJoe Rogan
What are they learning from torturing... Po- pull up the article, Jamie-
- BPBridget Phetasy
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
... 'cause people need to know this because I put it up on Twitter, but this is sick shit. Glen, Glen Greenwald, uh, texted me about this and he was kind of explaining that it doesn't help anything. There, there's no bene- there's no benefit to this.
- BPBridget Phetasy
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
He's like, "This is not something that's saving lives." Like, if, if you could prove that this was saving lives, he goes, "Maybe you could make some sort of ethical argument for doing this," but it doesn't save lives. It's just not.
- BPBridget Phetasy
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And it... It's twisted, and I don't understand it.
- BPBridget Phetasy
I just saw a shady side.
- 5:15 – 6:51
Jon Stewart, satire, and why the news feels like a credibility crisis
- BPBridget Phetasy
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... there's no science that points to that. All the science points to a manipulated virus that came out of the very area where they manipulate viruses. Like, when, when Jon Stewart went on that rant on Colbert show-
- BPBridget Phetasy
Right, and he got canceled for a minute. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
I... He didn't get canceled. It didn't even work, but I was like, "Yes, Jon Stewart!" Jon Stewart is the fucking man.
- BPBridget Phetasy
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
He's honest. He's brave. He, he, he's not, uh, you know, he's not that guy that's gonna bullshit just for the party-
- BPBridget Phetasy
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... and just toe the line. He's not gonna do it. Thank God. Thank God there's guys like him out there.
- BPBridget Phetasy
I mean, yeah, I think his, I think he's always been pretty good about that, but-
- JRJoe Rogan
About everything.
- BPBridget Phetasy
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BPBridget Phetasy
And his new show, I think, is... I haven't watched it, but I hear that it's pretty serious.
- JRJoe Rogan
If he's involved, it's good.
- BPBridget Phetasy
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
If he's involved, I'm in.
- BPBridget Phetasy
I just love what he did for all the guys down at-... ground zero.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes, yes, yes.
- BPBridget Phetasy
Like that's when I re- I always liked him but I really just respected him a hundred times more when he fought so hard for them.
- JRJoe Rogan
He's a national hero.
- BPBridget Phetasy
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Jon Jon Stewart really is and you know, when he's not on the air and then you see him again, you appreciate him like, "Goddamn it, I wish he was back." Because when he was hosting The Daily Show, The Daily Show was fucking (smacks lips) muah. It was perfect. I don't even watch it now.
- BPBridget Phetasy
No.
- JRJoe Rogan
I watch it now, like this is nonsense, like this is-
- BPBridget Phetasy
A lot of people kind of blame him for the, the state of news today though. You know, he, he did pioneer the form of making jokes out of the news. Making-
- JRJoe Rogan
Who else is doing that now though?
- BPBridget Phetasy
Everybody, even the news. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
But they're doing it accidentally.
- BPBridget Phetasy
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
They do it and then the joke's on them.
- 6:51 – 14:21
Los Angeles fear, crime, and homelessness: ‘quality of life’ collapse
- BPBridget Phetasy
No, it's, it's crazy times. I feel, I thought... I don't know what I thought. When we last sat down, it was a year ago, you had just moved here and had things started opening up? What, w- I don't even remember.
- JRJoe Rogan
Here, they were open. Yeah.
- BPBridget Phetasy
Yeah, they were pretty much open.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BPBridget Phetasy
But not where I was.
- JRJoe Rogan
But everybody's, everybody thought it was really reckless.
- BPBridget Phetasy
It's still closed in L.A. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, L.A.'s still closed. L well it's, if it's not closed, everyone's terrified.
- BPBridget Phetasy
It, it's a, it is a, it's a suicide pact, I'm convinced.
- JRJoe Rogan
When I was back there a few weeks ago, I was like, "Oh my god." The like, the f- the general feeling in the air, the tone, everyone's scared.
- BPBridget Phetasy
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And crime is off the fucking charts.
- BPBridget Phetasy
I mean yeah, my neighborhood just this last weekend, we were opening our door to go film Dumpster Fire and there's always police helicopters around so we're used to it. We often have to like pause because we live, we're in such a high class, like filming environment. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- BPBridget Phetasy
And then, so there's always like some shit going down and we had to, we were alw- we're used to having to pause for like the helicopters and we walk out and this, over the PA it's like, "Get inside your house. (laughs) Close your doors and lock them." We were like, "Oh, shit."
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- BPBridget Phetasy
And then we hear, "Put your hands, put your hands up where you, we can see them and come out of the building." So it's apparently some guy had started on a, a local business and then guys chase this one guy out and he was trying to attack people with I don't even know what, and then he was jumping from, um, like yard to yard like Ferris Bueller (laughs) only trying to break in and, and attack people.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh my God.
- BPBridget Phetasy
And so, it was like this whole insane... I was like, "What are we doing here? This is nuts." And that's just my, my friend who's on the show, she was like, "Oh, somebody exposed themself." I'm like, "I don't, it's not like a walk with my dog if somebody doesn't expose themself. That's just normal."
- JRJoe Rogan
They don't, they don't arrest people in L.A. anymore.
- BPBridget Phetasy
No! So, apparently with this guy, we got even f- more details. He had done the same thing a couple weeks ago and attacked somebody, I think with a knife, and Gascon let him out in six hours.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, that's what they're doing.
- BPBridget Phetasy
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
You know about the guy who got macheted on the beach with his family?
- BPBridget Phetasy
No.
- JRJoe Rogan
A homeless guy who's a fucking psychopath who pulled a, a knife on a sheriff. They arrested him, Gascon let him back on the street, and then he macheted some poor guy with his family on the beach. The guy lost his eye-
- BPBridget Phetasy
Oh, God.
- JRJoe Rogan
Cut his face, his hand, his tongue. This guy was swinging a fucking machete at a father in front of his children on the beach.
- BPBridget Phetasy
Yeah, it's scary. I mean-
- JRJoe Rogan
Th- Gascon is a scary guy.
- 14:21 – 16:03
Shelters, sobriety systems, and the rehab industry’s perverse incentives
- JRJoe Rogan
That's the big one-
- BPBridget Phetasy
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... is that if you go into a lot of these shelters, they require you to be clean.
- BPBridget Phetasy
Yeah. I mean-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BPBridget Phetasy
... there's a lot of people trying to get clean in those shelters, so it would be very hard if you're surrounded by people who are doing drugs.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, it's one of the dumbest things about Austin is that, I think they're moving it now, but there's a homeless shelter that's right next to 6th Street-
- BPBridget Phetasy
Oh, okay.
- JRJoe Rogan
... where everybody's drunk.
- BPBridget Phetasy
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
So, you're literally one block away from the biggest party street in all of Austin-
- BPBridget Phetasy
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
... and you're like, "Hey, time to clean up, everybody. Let's clean up right here where you can hear the fucking music blaring."
- BPBridget Phetasy
That's like that rehab that's right on Venice Boulevard, the one, the Phoenix or whatever. It's, like, right on the strip.
- JRJoe Rogan
Really?
- BPBridget Phetasy
I'm like, "Who the fuck's getting sober in this place?"
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- BPBridget Phetasy
(laughs) You walk out the door and it's like, "Here, get whatever you want."
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, that's a good place if you're really- if your intentions are really just to make money, and your intentions are not to- to make people clean. You will have a never-ending supply of people that need rehab if you just go right to them, and they don't have to travel.
- BPBridget Phetasy
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
They can just literally shuffle over barefoot and stumble into your rehab.
- BPBridget Phetasy
That's such an unregulated industry too, the, you know, the, like, halfway houses or the, what are they called now? Like, the sober livings.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BPBridget Phetasy
You- I could start a sober living if I wanted. It- there's no regulation on this, and they're super expensive and people get sent to them. Obviously, parents are worried about their kids. They get sent out to LA for these fancy rehabs, and then they all end up homeless on (laughs) -
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- BPBridget Phetasy
... in Venice. You know. No, they- a lot of- there's just so much churn, and it- they all- there's so many people that go out to get sober and clearly don't.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, the ones that are in Malibu are the real fancy schmancy ones, right?
- BPBridget Phetasy
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
They're the ones where you do yoga and you drink-
- BPBridget Phetasy
Yeah, you get, like, massages.
- 16:03 – 38:25
Bridget’s sobriety journey: early rehab, relapse cycles, and the ‘window of grace’
- BPBridget Phetasy
... when I got sober, it was- I was 19 the first time I got sober. My- I remember calling the woman, and she wa- sh- I had been in a rehab for a week, and then my insurance ran out, so I put myself on general assistance. This was in Minnesota. And, um, went and called this place, and this woman answered, and sh- I was like, "Hey." And I needed to go to an all-female one because, uh, like, some dude tried to do something with me in the last one, so I wanted all women. Women! And... (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) People can't see it.
- BPBridget Phetasy
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Is- is that- that something you yell on your podcast all the time?
- BPBridget Phetasy
Women! I always yell it on Dumpster Fire just 'cause it- because-
- JRJoe Rogan
What's- what's the context?
- BPBridget Phetasy
... because they're always saying, like, birthing people-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, right?
- BPBridget Phetasy
... or people with vaginas.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BPBridget Phetasy
And I'm like, "Women!" And like-
- JRJoe Rogan
Isn't that crazy?
- BPBridget Phetasy
Can we just say the word?
- JRJoe Rogan
Lactating people.
- BPBridget Phetasy
So, it was all women, and I called, and this woman, um, she's like, "You ever heard of boot camp?" And that's what- that's what it was like. It was 40 women, and I had to do dish- we had dish duty. We had- it was very regimented, and they kicked our asses. It was run pretty much all by lesbians. They just kicked our butts. They saw- they had seen. It was mostly women who were avoiding prison, and I was, like, the youngest one there. And they had seen every lying, shady maneuver, and they just saw through all of our shit. And I- those women saved my life.
- JRJoe Rogan
Wow.
- BPBridget Phetasy
I never did heroin again. I mean, I- I continued to do a lot of other things, but-
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- BPBridget Phetasy
... never did heroin again. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
So, incu- it's- it's incremental steps of- of sobriety?
- BPBridget Phetasy
Yeah, it's harm reduction. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Get out- get out of the heroin. But what did you do after you d- stopped doing heroin? What did you do?
- BPBridget Phetasy
Oh, man. I mean, I just celebrated eight years of sobriety last Monday, actually.
- JRJoe Rogan
High five.
- BPBridget Phetasy
Thank you.
- JRJoe Rogan
(clicks tongue)
- BPBridget Phetasy
It's a big deal for me.
- JRJoe Rogan
It's a huge deal.
- BPBridget Phetasy
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Listen, that's awesome.
- 38:25 – 46:10
Shame, hypersexuality, and childhood instability as roots of self-worth struggles
- BPBridget Phetasy
Yeah. No, the, it just, I think that there's, there's so much to all of it. This, my story is not original. There's a lot, I think, there's an, uh, there's a piece that I've been wanting to write for, like, years about how, um, I regret being a slut. Like, there, and I don't wanna, th- slut-shame myself or anyone, but I really was, like, hypersexual for many of my years, and I thought that I could kind of sleep my way to empowerment, and it was such a lie that I told myself. And I see young women struggling with a lot of this stuff now.
- JRJoe Rogan
But what do you mean by sleeping your way to empowerment? What do you mean by that?
- BPBridget Phetasy
Like, there's this whole message of like, "You can kinda fuck whoever you want." And like, it's, uh, you know, having sex, like, uh, men get to do it and women can do it too. And I just, I, I think that the, the shame that I came into sobriety with, so much of it was around my sexual history and sexual life. And I think about how little self-esteem and s- self-worth, I mean, that was really what it got down to when I really started drilling down. And what I still wrestle with, to a certain extent, is just a feeling of it's way better, but wi- at the core of it is worthlessness. And, um...
- JRJoe Rogan
D- that, but that has to come from childhood, right?
- BPBridget Phetasy
Um, I th-
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, I shouldn't say has to, but, but...
- BPBridget Phetasy
I mean, I think it's, maybe starts there? But I don't, I don't know. It, a lot of it became choices that I was making that reinforced that idea. So, maybe there's some stuff from childhood that you feel worthless for whatever reason, and I think-
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, it's e-
- BPBridget Phetasy
... being raised Catholic doesn't help always.
- JRJoe Rogan
No. But, I mean, if you're being ignored to the extent that you're drinking at 12, and you're becoming a full-blown alcoholic at 15, clearly you're not getting any of the attention you need.
- BPBridget Phetasy
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Kids need a certain amount of mentorship. They need a certain amount of independence and freedom, but they need a certain amount of love and attention.
- BPBridget Phetasy
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
They just, they just need it.
- BPBridget Phetasy
I think we just had, we, uh, had, uh, my dad traveled a lot, they got divorced, so there wasn't a real strong male figure in my life. And I think women do get a lot of that, kind of self-esteem and, from their father, or their, or the ma- a good male figure in their life kind of telling them that they're, they're... And wom- and from their mothers too, but real- I don't know, it seems like it does come from the male role model in their life. And then, my mom married my stepdad, and that was a shit show. It was just like, um, he was mentally ill and... Oh, god, I never talk about any of this. It was, um, yeah, it, it was, uh, it was a lot. It was like in and out of mental institutions and we never knew what we were coming home to, and a lot of-
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, geez.
- BPBridget Phetasy
... craziness and, um, she was caught up with h- him, you know, trying to deal with him and his, uh, he took on a lot, he took on five kids. I'm the oldest of five. He was young when they got married. I don't know, which should've been the first sign that he was crazy, um. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- BPBridget Phetasy
Truly. Um, but, yeah, that was, and I think that everyone in the family suffered. You know, everyone, no one really came out of that environment unscathed. Um, but we all, I, my siblings and I are all super close, and we have supported one another, and I'm, like, amazed at the lives they've built. We always joke, we're like, "We did a horrible job raising our parents." (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- BPBridget Phetasy
We did a really bad job raising them. But we did. I mean, I think it, yeah, probably raising yourself isn't a great thing for a teenage girl, and then I w- I was, I was such a good kid. I was, like, straight A student, I was, like, a chi- I was serious-
- JRJoe Rogan
While you were an alcoholic?
- BPBridget Phetasy
No. I mean, up to a certain point, it started falling apart. But we moved every year and a half, I managed to keep straight As, and I was, I was, like, on that fast track to Harvard. I wanted to go to an Ivy League school. And sh- it, shit gets hard when you're g- that's what I feel like people sometimes don't understand, and a lot of people, kind of, in, in the, like, elite media don't seem to understand this. If you're worried about your food or your parents or some shit going on at home, it gets hard to, like, pay attention to your homework and care about these things.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BPBridget Phetasy
If your family system is out of control and you're not...And there's a lot of children in these kinds of environments and-
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, I'm, I'm concerned about the state of these institutions across the board anyway.
- BPBridget Phetasy
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And, but for sure, it's really hard for people to sustain that sort of a, a, uh, any kind of an education schedule when you're dealing with-
- BPBridget Phetasy
Yeah, and it starts to seem petty.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- 46:10 – 1:00:43
Imposter syndrome, confidence as process, and why ‘The Secret’ isn’t enough
- BPBridget Phetasy
Uh. There are t- I mean, there are times where it gets... It's definitely... It's, it's... I'm competing against people who had what I wanted.
- JRJoe Rogan
What do you mean?
- BPBridget Phetasy
Eh, even in, like, the, the Thinx piece. In, even in the space of, like, the writers and the people who are writing these columns and Substacks and all these things. Not so much in comedy, but in, in the writing world, it's, like, all academics and people who generally went to colleges and they seem like they had loving parents (laughs) and support.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BPBridget Phetasy
And I sometimes feel like I don't belong in that world.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, that's okay. Listen, let me stop you.
- BPBridget Phetasy
You know? I have, I have, like, imposter syndrome.
- JRJoe Rogan
Let me s-... That's crazy. Y-... You can't think like that. You, uh, you're a brilliant writer and you write really interesting shit, and it's funny and it's, it's-
- BPBridget Phetasy
Thank you.
- JRJoe Rogan
... insightful.
- BPBridget Phetasy
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
And I don't think you can think about what other people are doing.
- BPBridget Phetasy
No, it's not-
- JRJoe Rogan
I don't think you should compare yourself to them people. I don't think you should ever say, you know, "I'm competing with them." I think-
- BPBridget Phetasy
Well, it's, like, I feel like I, I don't have the, like, pedigree to be in the-
- JRJoe Rogan
Nonsense.
- BPBridget Phetasy
... in the space.
- JRJoe Rogan
Not l-... Neither did Bukowski.
- BPBridget Phetasy
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, m- some of the best writers ever were just interesting people, like, you don't-
- BPBridget Phetasy
I'm just being honest.
- JRJoe Rogan
I understand what you're saying, but I think-
- BPBridget Phetasy
It's uncomfortable.
- JRJoe Rogan
... that's a bad pattern.
- BPBridget Phetasy
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
It's a bad pattern to, uh, to, to nurse in your head.
- BPBridget Phetasy
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Don't, don't keep it.
- BPBridget Phetasy
I, I don't nurse it.
- JRJoe Rogan
Okay.
- 1:00:43 – 1:03:48
Pregnancy announcement and the reality of working while pregnant
- BPBridget Phetasy
But I do, being that I'm pregnant (laughs) I was, like, in that first, um, I'm announcing this right now.
- JRJoe Rogan
Nobody knows.
- BPBridget Phetasy
Nobody knows.
- JRJoe Rogan
Now you've just told the world.
- BPBridget Phetasy
Yes.
- JRJoe Rogan
Being that, you said, "Being that I'm pregnant."
- BPBridget Phetasy
Instead of a gender reveal party, I'm gonna, I'm burning down California.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- BPBridget Phetasy
I'm gonna do a gender reveal podcast. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, just, just spray pink flammable fluid everywhere.
- BPBridget Phetasy
Yeah. (laughs) It's a girl. Um, yeah. Being in that, in that first trimester, I was like, "Oh, this is why there aren't women in everything." (laughs) Not as many women, you know, when you talk about it.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BPBridget Phetasy
And I was thinking about just doing comedy. I'm like, "Oh, my God, how did Ali and all these other women who have done this..."
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BPBridget Phetasy
And when you're feeling sick and hormonal and you wanna, you wanna get on stage and cry, and you're actually just like, you're... I, I was like that, I don't know how women do it ever, anything, and have other kids that they have to deal with-
- JRJoe Rogan
Right, and you're working-
- BPBridget Phetasy
... when they're feeling sick.
- JRJoe Rogan
... carrying a baby around.
- BPBridget Phetasy
And working.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BPBridget Phetasy
Yeah, it's, I mean, women are badasses.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, if men just had to-
- BPBridget Phetasy
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
If men, if men just had to work carrying a fucking 45-pound backpack.
- BPBridget Phetasy
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
You know? I mean, if every, if you had a regular job, right? And now you have to do a regular job with a 45-pound backpack.
- BPBridget Phetasy
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Then you would realize, like, "Oh, my God. This is crazy."
- BPBridget Phetasy
Yeah, it, it makes me realize why, uh, there, it's, in particular just like comedy, that it still is predominantly male, I think still.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, I think women have a really good shot at it if they're funny because there's not that many of 'em, but...... if they do decide to have a family, then it gets much more complicated.
- 1:03:48 – 1:14:11
Supply chain breakdown, AB5, and how regulation creates bottlenecks
- BPBridget Phetasy
I do wanna shout out the very small business that made this sweatshirt for me, Squid Print DGT. They're direct-to-garment printing. I love small businesses, as you know, and I should give them credit because they are amazing.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, I'm on the side of the government, and I'd like all small businesses to fold-
- BPBridget Phetasy
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
... and Target to take over everything.
- BPBridget Phetasy
They're getting crushed by inflation-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- BPBridget Phetasy
... and the supply. She was talking the other day, it cost her-
- JRJoe Rogan
Okay.
- BPBridget Phetasy
... $10,000 in two months between inflation and the supply stuff and the pandemic and the shutdowns.
- JRJoe Rogan
Let me ask you, 'cause you probably are aware of this, what the fuck is going on? Like, what is this supply chain problem? Why are there so many boats off the coast of California? 'Cause someone told me it's a half a million cargo ships-
- BPBridget Phetasy
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... off the coast of California. A friend of mine said-
- BPBridget Phetasy
I'm not sure what the numbers are in the... I know that there was a great thread that I retweeted the other day. A guy went in and was like, "Here's what's actually going on." And I know a lot of it-
- JRJoe Rogan
What did he say?
- BPBridget Phetasy
Well, one of the biggest problems is the bottleneck is zoning. It's, uh, has something to do with containers, and they can't stack the containers. And, um, I do think-
- JRJoe Rogan
And this is in California.
- BPBridget Phetasy
... there's a trucking problem as well, part of it being that they did that, you know, the whole PRO Act thi- not PRO Act, I guess it was the AB5, which we've talked about before, when they, that affected truckers as independent contractors.
- JRJoe Rogan
Explain AB5 to people, please.
- BPBridget Phetasy
So, it, it was about categorizing independent contractors as workers, basically. So, if you worked a certain number of hours, you needed to be considered, brought on as an employee, and it made it very hard for people to hire anybody, if you are a corporation, because you couldn't hire independent contractors. There, it was such a bad law bill, they had to do carve-outs for basically everyone. They should've just repealed it. It was horrible. It's the one that woman, Lorena González, who was like, "Fuck Elon Musk" on Twitter, and then he left. (laughs) But she's the o- woman-
- JRJoe Rogan
What? What are you saying?
- BPBridget Phetasy
... sh- uh, this, she's the, like, an assemblywoman in California, and she's behind this bill, AB5.
- JRJoe Rogan
She said, "Fuck Elon Musk"?
- BPBridget Phetasy
Yeah, on Twitter.
- JRJoe Rogan
And then she left? What do you mean?
- BPBridget Phetasy
And then he left. (laughs) I mean-
- JRJoe Rogan
He left what?
- BPBridget Phetasy
... he's left California with all-
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh.
- BPBridget Phetasy
... of his business. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Okay, yeah.
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