Joe Rogan Experience #1725 - Bridget Phetasy

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   (drumming) Joe Rogan podcast,…

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:01

      (drumming) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

   2. BPBridget Phetasy0:04

      The Joe Rogan Experience.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music plays)

   4. BPBridget Phetasy0:12

      (laughs)

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:12

      Are we rolling? (clears throat) What's good, catch up?

   6. BPBridget Phetasy0:14

      I said, we're just gonna catch up.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:15

      Oh.

   8. BPBridget Phetasy0:16

      It's been a year.

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:16

      It's been a year, yeah.

   10. BPBridget Phetasy0:18

       And you've been trending on Twitter for that entire year.

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:21

       Oh. (laughs)

   12. BPBridget Phetasy0:22

       (laughs)

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:22

       It's not my fault, those fucking dorks. Get out of the house, losers.

   14. BPBridget Phetasy0:26

       (laughs)

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:26

       Go pay attention to real life shit-

   16. BPBridget Phetasy0:28

       (laughs) Every time I go on-

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:29

       ... while Fauci's out there torturing puppies.

   18. BPBridget Phetasy0:31

       (laughs)

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:31

       You see that shit?

   20. BPBridget Phetasy0:32

       I, yeah, I saw. I didn't-

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:34

       Did you watch, did you read that article?

   22. BPBridget Phetasy0:34

       I didn't read the article. I shut off... I can't look at puppy torture.

   23. JRJoe Rogan0:37

       What are they learning from torturing... Po- pull up the article, Jamie-

   24. BPBridget Phetasy0:40

       (laughs)

   25. JRJoe Rogan0:40

       ... 'cause people need to know this because I put it up on Twitter, but this is sick shit. Glen, Glen Greenwald, uh, texted me about this and he was kind of explaining that it doesn't help anything. There, there's no bene- there's no benefit to this.

   26. BPBridget Phetasy0:55

       Right.

   27. JRJoe Rogan0:56

       He's like, "This is not something that's saving lives." Like, if, if you could prove that this was saving lives, he goes, "Maybe you could make some sort of ethical argument for doing this," but it doesn't save lives. It's just not.

   28. BPBridget Phetasy1:08

       Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:09

       And it... It's twisted, and I don't understand it.

   30. BPBridget Phetasy1:12

       I just saw a shady side.
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   (laughs) …

   1. BPBridget Phetasy15:00

      place?"

   2. JRJoe Rogan15:01

      (laughs)

   3. BPBridget Phetasy15:01

      (laughs) You walk out the door and it's like, "Here, get whatever you want."

   4. JRJoe Rogan15:04

      Well, that's a good place if you're really- if your intentions are really just to make money, and your intentions are not to- to make people clean. You will have a never-ending supply of people that need rehab if you just go right to them, and they don't have to travel.

   5. BPBridget Phetasy15:16

      Yeah.

   6. JRJoe Rogan15:16

      They can just literally shuffle over barefoot and stumble into your rehab.

   7. BPBridget Phetasy15:21

      That's such an unregulated industry too, the, you know, the, like, halfway houses or the, what are they called now? Like, the sober livings.

   8. JRJoe Rogan15:29

      Yeah.

   9. BPBridget Phetasy15:29

      You- I could start a sober living if I wanted. It- there's no regulation on this, and they're super expensive and people get sent to them. Obviously, parents are worried about their kids. They get sent out to LA for these fancy rehabs, and then they all end up homeless on (laughs) -

   10. JRJoe Rogan15:45

       (laughs)

   11. BPBridget Phetasy15:45

       ... in Venice. You know. No, they- a lot of- there's just so much churn, and it- they all- there's so many people that go out to get sober and clearly don't.

   12. JRJoe Rogan15:53

       Well, the ones that are in Malibu are the real fancy schmancy ones, right?

   13. BPBridget Phetasy15:56

       Yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan15:57

       They're the ones where you do yoga and you drink-

   15. BPBridget Phetasy15:58

       Yeah, you get, like, massages.

   16. JRJoe Rogan16:00

       ... wheatgrass juice. (laughs) And they- how often do they work?

   17. BPBridget Phetasy16:02

       When-

   18. JRJoe Rogan16:02

       That's what I wanna know.

   19. BPBridget Phetasy16:03

       ... when I got sober, it was- I was 19 the first time I got sober. My- I remember calling the woman, and she wa- sh- I had been in a rehab for a week, and then my insurance ran out, so I put myself on general assistance. This was in Minnesota. And, um, went and called this place, and this woman answered, and sh- I was like, "Hey." And I needed to go to an all-female one because, uh, like, some dude tried to do something with me in the last one, so I wanted all women. Women! And... (laughs)

   20. JRJoe Rogan16:34

       (laughs) People can't see it.

   21. BPBridget Phetasy16:34

       (laughs)

   22. JRJoe Rogan16:35

       Is- is that- that something you yell on your podcast all the time?

   23. BPBridget Phetasy16:37

       Women! I always yell it on Dumpster Fire just 'cause it- because-

   24. JRJoe Rogan16:40

       What's- what's the context?

   25. BPBridget Phetasy16:41

       ... because they're always saying, like, birthing people-

   26. JRJoe Rogan16:44

       Yeah, right?

   27. BPBridget Phetasy16:44

       ... or people with vaginas.

   28. JRJoe Rogan16:45

       Yeah.

   29. BPBridget Phetasy16:45

       And I'm like, "Women!" And like-

   30. JRJoe Rogan16:47

       Isn't that crazy?
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   Window of grace? Is…

   1. BPBridget Phetasy30:00

      it was like a window of grace. I don't know. It was, like, one small window of willingness. I don't, I don't know-

   2. JRJoe Rogan30:05

      Window of grace? Is that what you're saying?

   3. BPBridget Phetasy30:07

      Yeah, it was like, there... They say there are these kind of, like, opportunities where you can walk through a, like, door of willingness if you're, you're really at rock bottom and trying to get... And I made... I've joked about this before. I made alcoholism look amazing. Like, I, I had a lot of fun. (laughs)

   4. JRJoe Rogan30:26

      (laughs)

   5. BPBridget Phetasy30:26

      I was, I was kill-... I was like... O- from the outside it looked okay. It was just internally I felt like I was rotting to the core.

   6. JRJoe Rogan30:33

      Hmm.

   7. BPBridget Phetasy30:33

      And I also couldn't really get out of my own way. And so I went to a meeting and I didn't even... I wasn't like, "I'm getting sober." I just didn't know what else to do. And I was miserable. I mean, I was fucking miserable the first two years of my sobriety. But it was better than feeling like I wanted to kill myself.

   8. JRJoe Rogan30:53

      Hmm.

   9. BPBridget Phetasy30:53

      And so I just kept walking through it.... and doing what they told me to do. They were like, "Get a stupid job," so I was waiting tables, and like-

   10. JRJoe Rogan31:01

       Why, why did they say to get a stupid job?

   11. BPBridget Phetasy31:03

       They're just, you're, you know, a lot of times you have this kind of idea of being a big shot, or, not that I did at all, I was still waiting tables and, like, broke all the time. But it's really just this idea of, like, being a worker among workers. Like, put yourself in a, get a day job so you can pay your bills and not be dependent and struggling. And put yourself in, uh... 'cause sometimes it's like people who come from, you know, finance or whatever, they'll, they were big shots and then they kind of lose everything.

   12. JRJoe Rogan31:31

       And so then they tell them to get a job-

   13. BPBridget Phetasy31:33

       Everybody needs-

   14. JRJoe Rogan31:33

       ... to humble themselves?

   15. BPBridget Phetasy31:34

       Well, yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan31:34

       Is that the idea?

   17. BPBridget Phetasy31:34

       And just for, just for consistency.

   18. JRJoe Rogan31:36

       Mm-hmm.

   19. BPBridget Phetasy31:37

       And to be responsible and to have to show up and, I mean, I really realized... I started drinking when I was 12, and pretty-

   20. JRJoe Rogan31:46

       Holy shit.

   21. BPBridget Phetasy31:46

       ... alcoholically by the time I was 15. (clears throat) And I-

   22. JRJoe Rogan31:51

       You were fucking 12?

   23. BPBridget Phetasy31:52

       Yeah, I was young.

   24. JRJoe Rogan31:53

       Oh my God.

   25. BPBridget Phetasy31:53

       I mean-

   26. JRJoe Rogan31:53

       Nobody was paying attention to you?

   27. BPBridget Phetasy31:54

       No. And my parents got divorced right around that age, and, um, yeah, I started, I s- was off to the races and then I was just, by the time I was 19, I was in, it w- it made a lot of sense. And I was in rehab for heroin, and then got off that but that kind of not being, I used that as an excuse to be like, "Oh, I'm not an addict, 'cause I'm not doing heroin anymore." So, I used that to stay out for a long time as an excuse of like-

   28. JRJoe Rogan32:25

       Mm-hmm.

   29. BPBridget Phetasy32:25

       ... "Well, as long as I'm not doing heroin," because anyone would get addicted to that.

   30. JRJoe Rogan32:29

       Mm-hmm.
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   Right, but you weren't…

   1. BPBridget Phetasy45:00

      into the arts and... Yeah, it's a f-... It's a, like-

   2. JRJoe Rogan45:02

      Right, but you weren't getting feedback, right? You weren't doing something-

   3. BPBridget Phetasy45:05

      No, I was.

   4. JRJoe Rogan45:06

      ... where you were being successful at a, on a regular basis.

   5. BPBridget Phetasy45:08

      Right. The one person who was supportive was my stepdad and he wa-... Uh, it was, like, it was not good.

   6. JRJoe Rogan45:13

      Right. You always say-

   7. BPBridget Phetasy45:15

      Shit got weird. (laughs)

   8. JRJoe Rogan45:16

      Yeah, the arts. Like, what do you mean by the arts?

   9. BPBridget Phetasy45:18

      I mean, I was acting and I was, like, b-... Wanted to be a writer and was very into all that stuff, and I was going to film school for a minute after I got outta rehab and I really loved all of that. And I think had I had some support even when I got out of rehab that I could have continued that. But, um, yeah, I think if you don't have the... You need support from people and you need encouragement, like you said. And then I... That's one of the reasons, though, that I do value my self-esteem so much because it, it's been built, like, brick by brick from scratch-

   10. JRJoe Rogan45:52

       (laughs)

   11. BPBridget Phetasy45:53

       ... on my own. And you're such a good friend. I mean, you really, you do notice when I'm, like, not in a good place (laughs) and you'll reach out and be like, "Are you okay?" (laughs)

   12. JRJoe Rogan46:02

       (laughs) Well, I know-

   13. BPBridget Phetasy46:03

       "Like, I saw you tweeting some weird things." (laughs)

   14. JRJoe Rogan46:05

       I know your waves, you know? And I love you, so when things are weird with you...

   15. BPBridget Phetasy46:10

       Uh. There are t- I mean, there are times where it gets... It's definitely... It's, it's... I'm competing against people who had what I wanted.

   16. JRJoe Rogan46:20

       What do you mean?

   17. BPBridget Phetasy46:21

       Eh, even in, like, the, the Thinx piece. In, even in the space of, like, the writers and the people who are writing these columns and Substacks and all these things. Not so much in comedy, but in, in the writing world, it's, like, all academics and people who generally went to colleges and they seem like they had loving parents (laughs) and support.

   18. JRJoe Rogan46:44

       Yeah.

   19. BPBridget Phetasy46:45

       And I sometimes feel like I don't belong in that world.

   20. JRJoe Rogan46:49

       Oh, that's okay. Listen, let me stop you.

   21. BPBridget Phetasy46:49

       You know? I have, I have, like, imposter syndrome.

   22. JRJoe Rogan46:52

       Let me s-... That's crazy. Y-... You can't think like that. You, uh, you're a brilliant writer and you write really interesting shit, and it's funny and it's, it's-

   23. BPBridget Phetasy46:58

       Thank you.

   24. JRJoe Rogan46:58

       ... insightful.

   25. BPBridget Phetasy47:00

       (laughs)

   26. JRJoe Rogan47:00

       And I don't think you can think about what other people are doing.

   27. BPBridget Phetasy47:03

       No, it's not-

   28. JRJoe Rogan47:03

       I don't think you should compare yourself to them people. I don't think you should ever say, you know, "I'm competing with them." I think-

   29. BPBridget Phetasy47:09

       Well, it's, like, I feel like I, I don't have the, like, pedigree to be in the-

   30. JRJoe Rogan47:13

       Nonsense.
5. 1:00:00 – 1:12:34

   Yeah. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:00:00

   2. BPBridget Phetasy1:00:00

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:00:00

      And they want you to do more shows because the audience loves you, and they want a, "When are you gonna be here again?" And they wanna bring their friends. That's a meritocracy.

   4. BPBridget Phetasy1:00:07

      Yeah, yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:00:07

      It, it really, it, in, in some ways. But it's not pure, right? There's clearly, people get ahead when they shouldn't because they're friends with people or they schmooze, or...

   6. BPBridget Phetasy1:00:16

      Yeah. I mean, I also do (laughs) being that, um... I mean, speaking of Ali Wong, I love her so much because especially with like her specials fully pregnant-

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:00:29

      Hilarious.

   8. BPBridget Phetasy1:00:29

      ... I'm like, "Oh, my God."

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:00:30

      Two of 'em.

   10. BPBridget Phetasy1:00:30

       Two of 'em.

   11. JRJoe Rogan1:00:31

       She must fuck a lot.

   12. BPBridget Phetasy1:00:32

       (laughs) Just two of 'em up there. Just... I'm like-

   13. JRJoe Rogan1:00:36

       It's like, how do you time that? I wonder if she did the second one on purpose after the, the first one was so successful being pregnant.

   14. BPBridget Phetasy1:00:43

       But I do, being that I'm pregnant (laughs) I was, like, in that first, um, I'm announcing this right now.

   15. JRJoe Rogan1:00:51

       Nobody knows.

   16. BPBridget Phetasy1:00:52

       Nobody knows.

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:00:53

       Now you've just told the world.

   18. BPBridget Phetasy1:00:55

       Yes.

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:00:55

       Being that, you said, "Being that I'm pregnant."

   20. BPBridget Phetasy1:00:55

       Instead of a gender reveal party, I'm gonna, I'm burning down California.

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:00:59

       (laughs)

   22. BPBridget Phetasy1:00:59

       I'm gonna do a gender reveal podcast. (laughs)

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:01:02

       Yeah, just, just spray pink flammable fluid everywhere.

   24. BPBridget Phetasy1:01:06

       Yeah. (laughs) It's a girl. Um, yeah. Being in that, in that first trimester, I was like, "Oh, this is why there aren't women in everything." (laughs) Not as many women, you know, when you talk about it.

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:01:16

       Yeah.

   26. BPBridget Phetasy1:01:16

       And I was thinking about just doing comedy. I'm like, "Oh, my God, how did Ali and all these other women who have done this..."

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:01:22

       Yeah.

   28. BPBridget Phetasy1:01:22

       And when you're feeling sick and hormonal and you wanna, you wanna get on stage and cry, and you're actually just like, you're... I, I was like that, I don't know how women do it ever, anything, and have other kids that they have to deal with-

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:01:36

       Right, and you're working-

   30. BPBridget Phetasy1:01:36

       ... when they're feeling sick.

Episode duration: 3:36:19