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Joe Rogan Experience #1727 - Rob Kearney

Rob Kearney is the world's first openly gay professional strongman. He's also the co-author of the children's book "Strong," along with writer Eric Rosswood, and illustrator Nidhi Chanani.

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  1. 0:012:12

    Golf obsession, warm-ups, and the hidden cost of playing

    1. RK

      (drumming) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

    2. NA

      The Joe Rogan Experience. (rock music) Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music)

    3. JR

      He's obsessed. It's kinda interesting to watch because he never used to play golf.

    4. RK

      To be fair, I have a pretty terrible golf swing though.

    5. JR

      Um, for real.

    6. RK

      I don't have much of a back swing.

    7. JR

      Yeah, I, I hit the ground most... (laughs)

    8. RK

      (laughs)

    9. JR

      I've done that Topgolf place, but, uh, I just whack the ground. It's not good.

    10. RK

      (laughs)

    11. JR

      I'm not... I'm scared of golf. That's why when I see Jamie, like, full on, completely obsessed-

    12. RK

      Going at it.

    13. JR

      ... six months in, I'm like, "That's what I thought. That's what happens to people."

    14. RK

      (laughs)

    15. JR

      I don't want that shit. I don't have any time.

    16. RK

      And it's deceivingly expensive.

    17. JR

      Is it really?

    18. RK

      Well, yeah, like, every time you go out it's, you know, depending on the course you play, it's anywhere between, like, $80 and $150 every time you go play. And if you suck like I do, you're losing, you know, a dozen golf balls (laughs) every time you play as well.

    19. JR

      And a lot of people gamble as well.

    20. RK

      True.

    21. JR

      So if you suck-

    22. RK

      And drink.

    23. JR

      ... and gamble, and then you drink.

    24. RK

      Yeah.

    25. JR

      Yeah, but, well, the thing that, that freaks me out is the, uh, the cost of time.

    26. RK

      Yeah, 'cause it's... I mean, four hours at least.

    27. JR

      Yeah, at least. Jamie, what do you do? Like, what's a normal day?

    28. NA

      If you suck, I found out that's why it takes so long. (laughs)

    29. JR

      (laughs)

    30. RK

      (laughs)

  2. 2:128:18

    Rob’s triceps rupture during a 485-lb log press attempt

    1. JR

      You, uh, you recovered from surgery, huh? What did you have done?

    2. RK

      Dude, I've had a shit year.

    3. JR

      Yeah?

    4. RK

      Um, so, uh, just over a year ago, I ruptured my tricep on my left arm.

    5. JR

      All right, yikes.

    6. RK

      Um, was attempting the log press world record, and-

    7. JR

      What is the world record?

    8. RK

      So, the show was to attempt the world record. Um, I failed at 485 pounds, which would have been a new American record. That's when my tricep decided to, you know, crap out.

    9. JR

      So what did it do? Like, separate from the bone?

    10. RK

      Oh, no, it... like, my tendon exploded.

    11. JR

      Whoa.

    12. RK

      So, typically, like, when a tendon tears, it's kinda like a piece of paper, throw a couple of stitches in it, and then, you know, anchor it into the bone. The doctor... (laughs) first thing he said when I woke up was, "So, when I opened up your arm, I literally had to take a step back and rethink everything I was gonna do because it was that much worse."

    13. JR

      But didn't he have an MRI to go by?

    14. RK

      Yeah, but, like... so the MRI, we... it showed that it was torn, but he didn't know to, like, what extent. And when he got in there, he realized that literally, like... he said it looked like a firecracker had gone off in my tendon.

    15. JR

      (laughs)

    16. RK

      So, it took 14 sutures to put my tendon back together into something he could even attach to my elbow, and then another four anchors into my elbow that he did... had to drill in.

    17. JR

      And what was the recovery like?

    18. RK

      I mean, I still can't straighten my arm out all the way.

    19. JR

      Oh, really?

    20. RK

      Like, that's about as... and I got, like, this really cute dimple now.

    21. JR

      Oh, wow, that's gnarly.

    22. RK

      Yeah, nasty scar.

    23. JR

      Are you gonna put, like, a tattoo on it, make it, like, a snake or something?

    24. RK

      That's what I'm thinking, yeah. I mean, I think... I feel like a snake is too cliche.

    25. JR

      Maybe a s- a fuse.

    26. RK

      That could be it.

    27. JR

      For your forearm.

    28. RK

      That might- (laughs)

    29. JR

      A bomb-ass forearm.

    30. RK

      My husband goes, "You should make it a sperm." I was like, "Or not." (laughs)

  3. 8:1814:06

    Rehab realities: scar tissue, dry needling, and freaky body adaptations

    1. RK

      So I was, like, back in the gym within, like, two weeks doing lower body stuff. But the biggest... The hardest part was, like, getting range of motion back, like, trying to flex my elbow again. 'Cause when they did the surgery, my arm was bent at 90 degrees, so that was a pretty comfortable position, but getting it to straighten or getting it to bend all the way was horrible.

    2. JR

      Do they anticipate you'll ever get full range of motion where you can fully straighten it out again?

    3. RK

      Uh, it's been a year, so... (sighs) So here's the weird thing. Nobody can figure this out. If I'm not... If I'm just here trying to raise my arm, that's as much as I get.

    4. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    5. RK

      But if I'm pressing, like, if I'm bench-pressing or, or overhead pressing, I can get to full extension.

    6. JR

      Press this cup.

    7. RK

      Well, I think it might be too light. (laughs)

    8. JR

      (laughs) Can you pretend you're pressing something?

    9. RK

      This is where I get hurt.

    10. JR

      Oh, this is when it blows out?

    11. RK

      Yeah. You'll see that on the left arm.

    12. JR

      Oh, uh... Is that the same fucking Hitler guy?

    13. RK

      Yeah, same dude. Same dude.

    14. JR

      (laughs)

    15. RK

      And there it goes.

    16. JR

      Oh, Jesus Christ. Oh shit.

    17. RK

      I knew... Yeah. And, like, you know, I'm, I'm a certified athletic trainer. I, like, have a master's degree in sports medicine, so, like, I legit knew right away what had happened.

    18. JR

      Oh.

    19. RK

      And my husband comes over to me, he's like, "What's wrong?" I was like, "I just tore my tricep." He's like, "No, you didn't." I was like, "No, I totally did." (laughs)

    20. JR

      Oh. But you didn't think it was as bad as it was?

    21. RK

      I mean, I knew it was torn, but, like, I didn't... Yeah, I didn't think it was-

    22. JR

      Exploding.

    23. RK

      ... to that level.

    24. JR

      Now, what kind of therapy do you do for something like that? Once they reattach it, what's the rehabilitation like?

    25. RK

      Um, so, I mean, I, I did a lot of everything. A lot of manual therapy 'cause, like, I produce a lot of scar tissue. Um, like, even now, like, my olecranon, like, the elbow bone doesn't feel like my right one.

    26. JR

      So when you say you produ-... Is it like normally-

    27. RK

      Just my body, like, it naturally produces a lot of scar tissue.

    28. JR

      Oh, that's interesting.

    29. RK

      So that was something we battled actually, because I was producing too much scar tissue too early in the rehab process that was actually hindering the range of motion gains that I was supposed to be getting. So a lot of, like, Graston, um, cupping. I was... (laughs) I did dr- like, dry needling and acupuncture.

    30. JR

      Mm-hmm.

  4. 14:0616:14

    Strongman origins, dangerous events, and returning to heavy overhead work

    1. RK

      I mean, yeah. I mean, and I've also been doing this for 12 years now. You know? I did my first strongman competition when I was 17.

    2. JR

      Wow.

    3. RK

      You know, now turning 30 here in a couple of weeks, like, you know, so I've been doing this for a long time. So just that, like, you know, literal time under tension over the years definitely has to have an effect.

    4. JR

      Well, you, that's a young age to do something like that.

    5. RK

      (smacks lips) Yeah.

    6. JR

      I would imagine that, like, strongman stuff, like, you know, they talk about, like, old man strength.

    7. RK

      Yeah.

    8. JR

      Like, as you get older, I would imagine that would be a, a better time.

    9. RK

      (smacks lips) Yeah, I mean, you know, for me, it was just I kinda got in with a CrossFit gym. Honestly, that's how I got into strongman. And they kinda noticed that, you know, he's kind of a chubby awkward kid that's not terribly athletic, so (laughs) let's just put him on a barbell, see how much he can lift.

    10. JR

      (laughs)

    11. RK

      (laughs) Luckily, it worked out pretty well for me. Um, but, I mean, to be fair, like, I still sucked at strongman when I started too. Like, I s- I did my first competition on about four days notice, had never lifted a single strongman implement in my life, got my ass kicked, but, like, loved it 'cause it was so weird and just so different from anything I've ever done.

    12. JR

      Yeah, the o- the one that weirds me out the most is when they throw the barrels.

    13. RK

      Oh, yeah.

    14. JR

      'Cause I, I remember I watched one where the guy got hit, he threw the barrel, he wasn't paying attention-

    15. RK

      Came back and hit his head. Yeah.

    16. JR

      ... and it came back and hit him. Is that dude alive still?

    17. RK

      He is.

    18. JR

      Really?

    19. RK

      Yeah. Luckily, it was an empty keg. It was only a pony keg.

    20. JR

      What? What the fuck ever?

    21. RK

      It was, like, a half keg, but, I mean... (laughs)

    22. JR

      How m- how much does that weigh?

    23. RK

      I think it's about, like, 15 to 20 pounds.

    24. JR

      20 pounds-

    25. RK

      Like, still dropping from- (laughs)

    26. JR

      ... dropping from 30 feet onto your-

    27. RK

      Yeah.

    28. JR

      ... fucking head.

    29. RK

      (laughs)

    30. JR

      That's not good.

  5. 16:1422:03

    Testicular cancer diagnosis: rapid growth, surgery, and active monitoring

    1. RK

      No. I would say my left arm is probably 75%, 80%. Like, I'm closing in on, like, a 400-pound overhead again, you know, after a year of rehab and stuff like that. But, like, to be honest, like, this entire year from the time of this tricep has just been, like, shitty healthwise for me 'cause about a four and a half months ago, I got testicular cancer.

    2. JR

      Oh, shit.

    3. RK

      Yeah. So I had to deal with that too.

    4. JR

      What happened there?

    5. RK

      I lost a nut.

    6. JR

      Damn.

    7. RK

      Yeah.

    8. JR

      My buddy Duncan lost a nut.

    9. RK

      Um, yeah.

    10. JR

      And my buddy Tom Greene.

    11. RK

      It was crazy. Um-

    12. JR

      You're a fucking young guy to get testicular cancer, aren't you?

    13. RK

      ... 29, like, no family history of it. Like, it wasn't even a thought. I was actually getting ready for World's Strongest Man. Had, like, a super heavy squat and deadlift session one day, and I was wearing, like, a squat suit and a deadlift suit, so, like, those things are super uncomfortable.

    14. JR

      What is a squat suit?

    15. RK

      It literally is like this ela- um, I say elastic, but it's, um, just a super thick suit that you wear that it, it pretty much aids in the lift, right? Like, like, ha- have you ever seen guys wear, like, a bench shirt?

    16. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    17. RK

      You know, it's the same thing, but for a squat movement and a deadlift movement. So, like, everything gets just jumbled up in there and it's just (laughs) disgustingly uncomfortable.

    18. JR

      (laughs)

    19. RK

      So, like, the next day, I kinda had some, like, pain in my groin and I was like, "Eh, it's probably just from the session yesterday." But it, like, kinda got more intense and was, like, shooting up kind of into my abdomen. I was like, "Na- uh, something may be wrong here," so I checked it out. And the thing is, like, when people say testicular cancer, they're like, "Oh, like, you'll feel a lump." Mine felt like legit, like, a tiny hard string. Like, it was nothing crazy.

    20. JR

      Hmm.

    21. RK

      And I was like, "Okay, like, this is a little weird." And we're about three, four weeks before World's Strongest Man. So I'm like, "Okay, I have my physical coming up. Let me get a check then." Within a week, it had grown to, like, the size of a dime.

    22. JR

      Whoa.

    23. RK

      And then they were like, "Yeah, okay, with that kinda growth, we need to get you checked out." Gets me an ultrasound a week later, now it's the size of, like, a quarter. And this is on a Tue- so this, I go in on a Tuesday for my ultrasound. Then they're like, "Okay, well, you, you need to go to an oncologist." Right? So I was like, "Okay, well," like, that's like-... never having cancer or anything like, that's probably the weirdest and most emotional phone call to make, right? Like, when you're like, "Well, shit, I'm 29 and I have to schedule an oncology appointment."

    24. JR

      Yeah.

    25. RK

      Um, so I get in for that Thursday. The doctor comes in. I have Joey, my husband, with me. He literally walks in, puts the paper down. He's like, "Okay, so you're gonna come in on Tuesday and we're gonna have, remove your testicle."

    26. JR

      (sighs)

    27. RK

      I was like, "Okay." Zero to 100 real quick.

    28. JR

      And what is the explanation for the, the speed of the growth? 'Cause I thought cancer was, like, a slow progression and-

    29. RK

      So-

    30. JR

      ... you know, you could treat it and-

  6. 22:0327:15

    Life with one testicle: prosthetics, physiology, and coping

    1. JR

      Wow. And so they remove a ball. Did you put a fake one in?

    2. RK

      No. You know, so here's the thing with that.

    3. JR

      (laughs)

    4. RK

      Like, one, it's ki, (laughs) it's kind of expensive 'cause it's cosmetic, right?

    5. JR

      Really?

    6. RK

      Like it doesn't, it's not covered by insurance.

    7. JR

      Don't you just stick a little rubber one in there?

    8. RK

      That's what I. Well, for-

    9. JR

      Stick it up?

    10. RK

      I didn't even know there were prosthetic nuts.

    11. JR

      They have them for dogs too.

    12. RK

      Yeah.

    13. JR

      Which is the dumbest shit.

    14. RK

      But, like, I'm kind of a smartass and, like, I decided to h, like, I'm in this moment where I'm in this doctor's appointment and I'm like, "Okay, I'm having a nut removed in, like, four days." My husband's sitting behind me. I was like, "Okay." So he's li, so the doctor's like, "Oh," like, you know, "let's do an exam. Do you want him to leave?" I was like-

    15. JR

      (laughs)

    16. RK

      ... "Oh, it's nothing he's never seen before."

    17. JR

      (laughs)

    18. RK

      "So he's fine." Um, and then he's like, "Oh," like, "do you want a prosthetic? Like, it'd be easier to put one in while we're in there." I was like, "Didn't know that was an option." So he takes some out and shows me some. And so y my mind started going, I'm like, "Got any that are, like, glow in the dark?"

    19. JR

      (laughs) What does a fake nut look like when it's on the table?

    20. RK

      It's like, it, it looks like a silicone, it's like a little silicone implant.

    21. JR

      Oh, like a breast implant?

    22. RK

      Yeah, yeah.

    23. JR

      Okay.

    24. RK

      Same, same kinda material.

    25. JR

      So clear.

    26. RK

      Um, they don't have glow in the dark nuts.

    27. JR

      Hmm.

    28. RK

      Nor do they have Bluetooth.

    29. JR

      You wanted a Bluetooth nut?

    30. RK

      Yeah. How cool would that be?

  7. 27:1537:38

    Strongman nutrition vs keto: rice, meat, carbs, and performance tradeoffs

    1. JR

      That's what's crazy. They say that, uh, and I don't know if this is accurate, but they say that ketogenic diets are very good for preventing cancer because there's something about cancer needing glucose to grow, whereas ketones, uh, cancer doesn't grow on ketones, but your body can function better.

    2. RK

      I, yeah, I mean, it makes sense. You know, like-

    3. JR

      Yeah.

    4. RK

      ... you think fat grows with glucose.

    5. JR

      Right.

    6. RK

      So, why wouldn't something else that's a little bit more anabolic?

    7. JR

      Yeah.

    8. RK

      So, it makes sense physiologically.

    9. JR

      Yeah.

    10. RK

      I don't like carbs.

    11. JR

      Well, I could imagine.

    12. RK

      Yeah.

    13. JR

      When you do that kind of w- I mean, is there anybody that tries to follow a keto diet that does powerlifting or strongman type stuff like you?

    14. RK

      I mean, like, you have, like, Mark and Chris Bell. They do, like, the carnivore stuff.

    15. JR

      Yeah, but they, but they take carbs. I, I see those guys. They're always eating apples and shit.

    16. RK

      Yeah, true, true, true.

    17. JR

      Chris, Chris eats a lot of fruit.

    18. RK

      Yeah.

    19. JR

      You know? But they're not doing, they're just doing it for aesthetics. They just look good, you know?

    20. RK

      Yeah.

    21. JR

      They lift weights and you're involved in, like, serious competition with other gorillas that are trying to pick up-

    22. RK

      Much bigger gorillas.

    23. JR

      ... super heavy shit. Yeah, I would imagine, like, carbs are almost necessary.

    24. RK

      Yeah. Yeah, I mean, they're, they're a staple in, like, every meal.

    25. JR

      What is your standard diet? Like, a standard plate for you? What do you eat?

    26. RK

      Typically, like, anywhere between one to two cups of rice, depending on the time of day and where my training is at. Um, eight to town ou- eight to 10 ounces of meat, um, and then some veggies.

    27. JR

      Yeah. Robert Oberst said that he's basically rice and meat.

    28. RK

      Yeah.

    29. JR

      Like, that's the primary ... Wha- is that most strongmen? Is like rice and meat?

    30. RK

      It's the easiest way to get the calories and the nutrients in, right? And then, like, fortunately, you know, because of what we do and the energy expenditure and, like, the time our workouts take, like, we usually get ... Most guys get a couple of cheat meals a week. That's why we don't look like bodybuilders. Right? Like, we eat relatively clean, but in order to keep up with what we're doing, you know what I mean? Shit, sometimes my workouts take, like, six hours that I'm at the gym.

  8. 37:3856:42

    Strongman ‘freaks,’ event design, and CEO move to grow the sport

    1. JR

      Right, yeah. How long do you think you're gonna do this for?

    2. RK

      I don't know, man. Um, you know, it's interesting. You know, I th- I, I messaged you a little bit about like the stuff that my, where my career's going, right? Like-

    3. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    4. RK

      'Cause we talked about, you know, how strongman, you know, World's Strongest Man should be a million dollar title.

    5. JR

      It should be.

    6. RK

      You know?

    7. JR

      Yeah.

    8. RK

      And like we're, we're kinda working towards that. So like, super... I'm actually like, this is the first time I'm talking about it. So I actually now am the CEO and part owner of Strongman Corporation.

    9. JR

      Oh.

    10. RK

      So it's the-

    11. JR

      How'd that happen?

    12. RK

      (laughs) Like, three days ago.

    13. JR

      Really?

    14. RK

      Yeah, yeah.

    15. JR

      Congratulations.

    16. RK

      We, we've been working on it for, for a little while. Uh, my business partner and I have kinda been... We kinda put our heads together and, you know, honestly, like taking what you were saying and like, "How do we build this sport to something bigger?" And we decided to kinda start from the grassroots, right? So Strongman Corporation, it's the largest amateur and professional organization in the world for strongmen. Like, just over 12... Around 12,000 members worldwide.

    17. JR

      Wow.

    18. RK

      Um, so yeah, so as of three days ago now, I'm at the helm of it.

    19. JR

      Dude-

    20. RK

      So-

    21. JR

      ... congratulations.

    22. RK

      ... pretty pumped, yeah.

    23. JR

      That's fucking badass. Listen, man, it is an entertaining thing to watch the strongest fucking humans in the world.

    24. RK

      Absolutely.

    25. JR

      The idea that that's not a big thing, but golf is... Sorry, Jamie.

    26. RK

      (laughs)

    27. JR

      But the people who watch golf on TV, 'cause I don't play golf so I don't watch golf, right? The people that watch golf all play golf. But everybody will watch some fucking gorilla try to throw a barrel over the top of a, a pole vault beam.

    28. RK

      Yeah.

    29. JR

      You know? Like that's-

    30. RK

      It's just, it's a spectacle, right? Like-

  9. 56:421:13:19

    Training hacks and recovery culture: smelling salts, slaps, and sauna

    1. JR

      What is, what is it about smelling salts that get you, uh, ramped up?

    2. RK

      I mean-

    3. JR

      They crack 'em under their nose, right?

    4. RK

      Yeah, yeah. It hurts. Um.

    5. JR

      Yeah?

    6. RK

      So I think it, I think it just like initiates his like fight or flight.

    7. JR

      Is that legal before tournaments?

    8. RK

      Oh, yeah. I got a, I-

    9. JR

      Really?

    10. RK

      (sighs) I woulda-

    11. JR

      You do it?

    12. RK

      I shoulda brought some, man. I coulda had you try it.

    13. JR

      I wanna try it.

    14. RK

      Yeah.

    15. JR

      Yeah.

    16. RK

      I got one that's literally called Hellfire.

    17. JR

      (laughs) Wait a minute. So they have brands of smelling salts?

    18. RK

      Oh, d- there's entire companies that just make smelling salts.

    19. JR

      Just for lifting?

    20. RK

      Yeah, this company that I work at, which um-

    21. JR

      Jamie, order up some smelling salts. We're gonna do this.

    22. RK

      (laughs)

    23. JR

      'Cause we're putting in a gym next door.

    24. RK

      Do you want like legit like hardcore shit?

    25. JR

      Oh, yeah. I'm not going soft.

    26. RK

      So do you know the guy Juji Mufu?

    27. JR

      Um, yes.

    28. RK

      Right? Like s-

    29. JR

      I know him because of Derek from MorePlatesMoreDates.com.

    30. RK

      Yeah.

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