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Golf obsession, warm-ups, and the hidden cost of playing
- RKRob Kearney
(drumming) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.
- NANarrator
The Joe Rogan Experience. (rock music) Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music)
- JRJoe Rogan
He's obsessed. It's kinda interesting to watch because he never used to play golf.
- RKRob Kearney
To be fair, I have a pretty terrible golf swing though.
- JRJoe Rogan
Um, for real.
- RKRob Kearney
I don't have much of a back swing.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, I, I hit the ground most... (laughs)
- RKRob Kearney
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
I've done that Topgolf place, but, uh, I just whack the ground. It's not good.
- RKRob Kearney
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
I'm not... I'm scared of golf. That's why when I see Jamie, like, full on, completely obsessed-
- RKRob Kearney
Going at it.
- JRJoe Rogan
... six months in, I'm like, "That's what I thought. That's what happens to people."
- RKRob Kearney
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
I don't want that shit. I don't have any time.
- RKRob Kearney
And it's deceivingly expensive.
- JRJoe Rogan
Is it really?
- RKRob Kearney
Well, yeah, like, every time you go out it's, you know, depending on the course you play, it's anywhere between, like, $80 and $150 every time you go play. And if you suck like I do, you're losing, you know, a dozen golf balls (laughs) every time you play as well.
- JRJoe Rogan
And a lot of people gamble as well.
- RKRob Kearney
True.
- JRJoe Rogan
So if you suck-
- RKRob Kearney
And drink.
- JRJoe Rogan
... and gamble, and then you drink.
- RKRob Kearney
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, but, well, the thing that, that freaks me out is the, uh, the cost of time.
- RKRob Kearney
Yeah, 'cause it's... I mean, four hours at least.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, at least. Jamie, what do you do? Like, what's a normal day?
- NANarrator
If you suck, I found out that's why it takes so long. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- RKRob Kearney
(laughs)
- 2:12 – 8:18
Rob’s triceps rupture during a 485-lb log press attempt
- JRJoe Rogan
You, uh, you recovered from surgery, huh? What did you have done?
- RKRob Kearney
Dude, I've had a shit year.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah?
- RKRob Kearney
Um, so, uh, just over a year ago, I ruptured my tricep on my left arm.
- JRJoe Rogan
All right, yikes.
- RKRob Kearney
Um, was attempting the log press world record, and-
- JRJoe Rogan
What is the world record?
- RKRob Kearney
So, the show was to attempt the world record. Um, I failed at 485 pounds, which would have been a new American record. That's when my tricep decided to, you know, crap out.
- JRJoe Rogan
So what did it do? Like, separate from the bone?
- RKRob Kearney
Oh, no, it... like, my tendon exploded.
- JRJoe Rogan
Whoa.
- RKRob Kearney
So, typically, like, when a tendon tears, it's kinda like a piece of paper, throw a couple of stitches in it, and then, you know, anchor it into the bone. The doctor... (laughs) first thing he said when I woke up was, "So, when I opened up your arm, I literally had to take a step back and rethink everything I was gonna do because it was that much worse."
- JRJoe Rogan
But didn't he have an MRI to go by?
- RKRob Kearney
Yeah, but, like... so the MRI, we... it showed that it was torn, but he didn't know to, like, what extent. And when he got in there, he realized that literally, like... he said it looked like a firecracker had gone off in my tendon.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- RKRob Kearney
So, it took 14 sutures to put my tendon back together into something he could even attach to my elbow, and then another four anchors into my elbow that he did... had to drill in.
- JRJoe Rogan
And what was the recovery like?
- RKRob Kearney
I mean, I still can't straighten my arm out all the way.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, really?
- RKRob Kearney
Like, that's about as... and I got, like, this really cute dimple now.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, wow, that's gnarly.
- RKRob Kearney
Yeah, nasty scar.
- JRJoe Rogan
Are you gonna put, like, a tattoo on it, make it, like, a snake or something?
- RKRob Kearney
That's what I'm thinking, yeah. I mean, I think... I feel like a snake is too cliche.
- JRJoe Rogan
Maybe a s- a fuse.
- RKRob Kearney
That could be it.
- JRJoe Rogan
For your forearm.
- RKRob Kearney
That might- (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
A bomb-ass forearm.
- RKRob Kearney
My husband goes, "You should make it a sperm." I was like, "Or not." (laughs)
- 8:18 – 14:06
Rehab realities: scar tissue, dry needling, and freaky body adaptations
- RKRob Kearney
So I was, like, back in the gym within, like, two weeks doing lower body stuff. But the biggest... The hardest part was, like, getting range of motion back, like, trying to flex my elbow again. 'Cause when they did the surgery, my arm was bent at 90 degrees, so that was a pretty comfortable position, but getting it to straighten or getting it to bend all the way was horrible.
- JRJoe Rogan
Do they anticipate you'll ever get full range of motion where you can fully straighten it out again?
- RKRob Kearney
Uh, it's been a year, so... (sighs) So here's the weird thing. Nobody can figure this out. If I'm not... If I'm just here trying to raise my arm, that's as much as I get.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- RKRob Kearney
But if I'm pressing, like, if I'm bench-pressing or, or overhead pressing, I can get to full extension.
- JRJoe Rogan
Press this cup.
- RKRob Kearney
Well, I think it might be too light. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) Can you pretend you're pressing something?
- RKRob Kearney
This is where I get hurt.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, this is when it blows out?
- RKRob Kearney
Yeah. You'll see that on the left arm.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, uh... Is that the same fucking Hitler guy?
- RKRob Kearney
Yeah, same dude. Same dude.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- RKRob Kearney
And there it goes.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, Jesus Christ. Oh shit.
- RKRob Kearney
I knew... Yeah. And, like, you know, I'm, I'm a certified athletic trainer. I, like, have a master's degree in sports medicine, so, like, I legit knew right away what had happened.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh.
- RKRob Kearney
And my husband comes over to me, he's like, "What's wrong?" I was like, "I just tore my tricep." He's like, "No, you didn't." I was like, "No, I totally did." (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh. But you didn't think it was as bad as it was?
- RKRob Kearney
I mean, I knew it was torn, but, like, I didn't... Yeah, I didn't think it was-
- JRJoe Rogan
Exploding.
- RKRob Kearney
... to that level.
- JRJoe Rogan
Now, what kind of therapy do you do for something like that? Once they reattach it, what's the rehabilitation like?
- RKRob Kearney
Um, so, I mean, I, I did a lot of everything. A lot of manual therapy 'cause, like, I produce a lot of scar tissue. Um, like, even now, like, my olecranon, like, the elbow bone doesn't feel like my right one.
- JRJoe Rogan
So when you say you produ-... Is it like normally-
- RKRob Kearney
Just my body, like, it naturally produces a lot of scar tissue.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, that's interesting.
- RKRob Kearney
So that was something we battled actually, because I was producing too much scar tissue too early in the rehab process that was actually hindering the range of motion gains that I was supposed to be getting. So a lot of, like, Graston, um, cupping. I was... (laughs) I did dr- like, dry needling and acupuncture.
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- 14:06 – 16:14
Strongman origins, dangerous events, and returning to heavy overhead work
- RKRob Kearney
I mean, yeah. I mean, and I've also been doing this for 12 years now. You know? I did my first strongman competition when I was 17.
- JRJoe Rogan
Wow.
- RKRob Kearney
You know, now turning 30 here in a couple of weeks, like, you know, so I've been doing this for a long time. So just that, like, you know, literal time under tension over the years definitely has to have an effect.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, you, that's a young age to do something like that.
- RKRob Kearney
(smacks lips) Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
I would imagine that, like, strongman stuff, like, you know, they talk about, like, old man strength.
- RKRob Kearney
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, as you get older, I would imagine that would be a, a better time.
- RKRob Kearney
(smacks lips) Yeah, I mean, you know, for me, it was just I kinda got in with a CrossFit gym. Honestly, that's how I got into strongman. And they kinda noticed that, you know, he's kind of a chubby awkward kid that's not terribly athletic, so (laughs) let's just put him on a barbell, see how much he can lift.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- RKRob Kearney
(laughs) Luckily, it worked out pretty well for me. Um, but, I mean, to be fair, like, I still sucked at strongman when I started too. Like, I s- I did my first competition on about four days notice, had never lifted a single strongman implement in my life, got my ass kicked, but, like, loved it 'cause it was so weird and just so different from anything I've ever done.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, the o- the one that weirds me out the most is when they throw the barrels.
- RKRob Kearney
Oh, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
'Cause I, I remember I watched one where the guy got hit, he threw the barrel, he wasn't paying attention-
- RKRob Kearney
Came back and hit his head. Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... and it came back and hit him. Is that dude alive still?
- RKRob Kearney
He is.
- JRJoe Rogan
Really?
- RKRob Kearney
Yeah. Luckily, it was an empty keg. It was only a pony keg.
- JRJoe Rogan
What? What the fuck ever?
- RKRob Kearney
It was, like, a half keg, but, I mean... (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
How m- how much does that weigh?
- RKRob Kearney
I think it's about, like, 15 to 20 pounds.
- JRJoe Rogan
20 pounds-
- RKRob Kearney
Like, still dropping from- (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
... dropping from 30 feet onto your-
- RKRob Kearney
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... fucking head.
- RKRob Kearney
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
That's not good.
- 16:14 – 22:03
Testicular cancer diagnosis: rapid growth, surgery, and active monitoring
- RKRob Kearney
No. I would say my left arm is probably 75%, 80%. Like, I'm closing in on, like, a 400-pound overhead again, you know, after a year of rehab and stuff like that. But, like, to be honest, like, this entire year from the time of this tricep has just been, like, shitty healthwise for me 'cause about a four and a half months ago, I got testicular cancer.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, shit.
- RKRob Kearney
Yeah. So I had to deal with that too.
- JRJoe Rogan
What happened there?
- RKRob Kearney
I lost a nut.
- JRJoe Rogan
Damn.
- RKRob Kearney
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
My buddy Duncan lost a nut.
- RKRob Kearney
Um, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And my buddy Tom Greene.
- RKRob Kearney
It was crazy. Um-
- JRJoe Rogan
You're a fucking young guy to get testicular cancer, aren't you?
- RKRob Kearney
... 29, like, no family history of it. Like, it wasn't even a thought. I was actually getting ready for World's Strongest Man. Had, like, a super heavy squat and deadlift session one day, and I was wearing, like, a squat suit and a deadlift suit, so, like, those things are super uncomfortable.
- JRJoe Rogan
What is a squat suit?
- RKRob Kearney
It literally is like this ela- um, I say elastic, but it's, um, just a super thick suit that you wear that it, it pretty much aids in the lift, right? Like, like, ha- have you ever seen guys wear, like, a bench shirt?
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- RKRob Kearney
You know, it's the same thing, but for a squat movement and a deadlift movement. So, like, everything gets just jumbled up in there and it's just (laughs) disgustingly uncomfortable.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- RKRob Kearney
So, like, the next day, I kinda had some, like, pain in my groin and I was like, "Eh, it's probably just from the session yesterday." But it, like, kinda got more intense and was, like, shooting up kind of into my abdomen. I was like, "Na- uh, something may be wrong here," so I checked it out. And the thing is, like, when people say testicular cancer, they're like, "Oh, like, you'll feel a lump." Mine felt like legit, like, a tiny hard string. Like, it was nothing crazy.
- JRJoe Rogan
Hmm.
- RKRob Kearney
And I was like, "Okay, like, this is a little weird." And we're about three, four weeks before World's Strongest Man. So I'm like, "Okay, I have my physical coming up. Let me get a check then." Within a week, it had grown to, like, the size of a dime.
- JRJoe Rogan
Whoa.
- RKRob Kearney
And then they were like, "Yeah, okay, with that kinda growth, we need to get you checked out." Gets me an ultrasound a week later, now it's the size of, like, a quarter. And this is on a Tue- so this, I go in on a Tuesday for my ultrasound. Then they're like, "Okay, well, you, you need to go to an oncologist." Right? So I was like, "Okay, well," like, that's like-... never having cancer or anything like, that's probably the weirdest and most emotional phone call to make, right? Like, when you're like, "Well, shit, I'm 29 and I have to schedule an oncology appointment."
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- RKRob Kearney
Um, so I get in for that Thursday. The doctor comes in. I have Joey, my husband, with me. He literally walks in, puts the paper down. He's like, "Okay, so you're gonna come in on Tuesday and we're gonna have, remove your testicle."
- JRJoe Rogan
(sighs)
- RKRob Kearney
I was like, "Okay." Zero to 100 real quick.
- JRJoe Rogan
And what is the explanation for the, the speed of the growth? 'Cause I thought cancer was, like, a slow progression and-
- RKRob Kearney
So-
- JRJoe Rogan
... you know, you could treat it and-
- 22:03 – 27:15
Life with one testicle: prosthetics, physiology, and coping
- JRJoe Rogan
Wow. And so they remove a ball. Did you put a fake one in?
- RKRob Kearney
No. You know, so here's the thing with that.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- RKRob Kearney
Like, one, it's ki, (laughs) it's kind of expensive 'cause it's cosmetic, right?
- JRJoe Rogan
Really?
- RKRob Kearney
Like it doesn't, it's not covered by insurance.
- JRJoe Rogan
Don't you just stick a little rubber one in there?
- RKRob Kearney
That's what I. Well, for-
- JRJoe Rogan
Stick it up?
- RKRob Kearney
I didn't even know there were prosthetic nuts.
- JRJoe Rogan
They have them for dogs too.
- RKRob Kearney
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Which is the dumbest shit.
- RKRob Kearney
But, like, I'm kind of a smartass and, like, I decided to h, like, I'm in this moment where I'm in this doctor's appointment and I'm like, "Okay, I'm having a nut removed in, like, four days." My husband's sitting behind me. I was like, "Okay." So he's li, so the doctor's like, "Oh," like, you know, "let's do an exam. Do you want him to leave?" I was like-
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- RKRob Kearney
... "Oh, it's nothing he's never seen before."
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- RKRob Kearney
"So he's fine." Um, and then he's like, "Oh," like, "do you want a prosthetic? Like, it'd be easier to put one in while we're in there." I was like, "Didn't know that was an option." So he takes some out and shows me some. And so y my mind started going, I'm like, "Got any that are, like, glow in the dark?"
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) What does a fake nut look like when it's on the table?
- RKRob Kearney
It's like, it, it looks like a silicone, it's like a little silicone implant.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, like a breast implant?
- RKRob Kearney
Yeah, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Okay.
- RKRob Kearney
Same, same kinda material.
- JRJoe Rogan
So clear.
- RKRob Kearney
Um, they don't have glow in the dark nuts.
- JRJoe Rogan
Hmm.
- RKRob Kearney
Nor do they have Bluetooth.
- JRJoe Rogan
You wanted a Bluetooth nut?
- RKRob Kearney
Yeah. How cool would that be?
- 27:15 – 37:38
Strongman nutrition vs keto: rice, meat, carbs, and performance tradeoffs
- JRJoe Rogan
That's what's crazy. They say that, uh, and I don't know if this is accurate, but they say that ketogenic diets are very good for preventing cancer because there's something about cancer needing glucose to grow, whereas ketones, uh, cancer doesn't grow on ketones, but your body can function better.
- RKRob Kearney
I, yeah, I mean, it makes sense. You know, like-
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- RKRob Kearney
... you think fat grows with glucose.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- RKRob Kearney
So, why wouldn't something else that's a little bit more anabolic?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- RKRob Kearney
So, it makes sense physiologically.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- RKRob Kearney
I don't like carbs.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, I could imagine.
- RKRob Kearney
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
When you do that kind of w- I mean, is there anybody that tries to follow a keto diet that does powerlifting or strongman type stuff like you?
- RKRob Kearney
I mean, like, you have, like, Mark and Chris Bell. They do, like, the carnivore stuff.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, but they, but they take carbs. I, I see those guys. They're always eating apples and shit.
- RKRob Kearney
Yeah, true, true, true.
- JRJoe Rogan
Chris, Chris eats a lot of fruit.
- RKRob Kearney
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
You know? But they're not doing, they're just doing it for aesthetics. They just look good, you know?
- RKRob Kearney
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
They lift weights and you're involved in, like, serious competition with other gorillas that are trying to pick up-
- RKRob Kearney
Much bigger gorillas.
- JRJoe Rogan
... super heavy shit. Yeah, I would imagine, like, carbs are almost necessary.
- RKRob Kearney
Yeah. Yeah, I mean, they're, they're a staple in, like, every meal.
- JRJoe Rogan
What is your standard diet? Like, a standard plate for you? What do you eat?
- RKRob Kearney
Typically, like, anywhere between one to two cups of rice, depending on the time of day and where my training is at. Um, eight to town ou- eight to 10 ounces of meat, um, and then some veggies.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Robert Oberst said that he's basically rice and meat.
- RKRob Kearney
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, that's the primary ... Wha- is that most strongmen? Is like rice and meat?
- RKRob Kearney
It's the easiest way to get the calories and the nutrients in, right? And then, like, fortunately, you know, because of what we do and the energy expenditure and, like, the time our workouts take, like, we usually get ... Most guys get a couple of cheat meals a week. That's why we don't look like bodybuilders. Right? Like, we eat relatively clean, but in order to keep up with what we're doing, you know what I mean? Shit, sometimes my workouts take, like, six hours that I'm at the gym.
- 37:38 – 56:42
Strongman ‘freaks,’ event design, and CEO move to grow the sport
- JRJoe Rogan
Right, yeah. How long do you think you're gonna do this for?
- RKRob Kearney
I don't know, man. Um, you know, it's interesting. You know, I th- I, I messaged you a little bit about like the stuff that my, where my career's going, right? Like-
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm-hmm.
- RKRob Kearney
'Cause we talked about, you know, how strongman, you know, World's Strongest Man should be a million dollar title.
- JRJoe Rogan
It should be.
- RKRob Kearney
You know?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- RKRob Kearney
And like we're, we're kinda working towards that. So like, super... I'm actually like, this is the first time I'm talking about it. So I actually now am the CEO and part owner of Strongman Corporation.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh.
- RKRob Kearney
So it's the-
- JRJoe Rogan
How'd that happen?
- RKRob Kearney
(laughs) Like, three days ago.
- JRJoe Rogan
Really?
- RKRob Kearney
Yeah, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Congratulations.
- RKRob Kearney
We, we've been working on it for, for a little while. Uh, my business partner and I have kinda been... We kinda put our heads together and, you know, honestly, like taking what you were saying and like, "How do we build this sport to something bigger?" And we decided to kinda start from the grassroots, right? So Strongman Corporation, it's the largest amateur and professional organization in the world for strongmen. Like, just over 12... Around 12,000 members worldwide.
- JRJoe Rogan
Wow.
- RKRob Kearney
Um, so yeah, so as of three days ago now, I'm at the helm of it.
- JRJoe Rogan
Dude-
- RKRob Kearney
So-
- JRJoe Rogan
... congratulations.
- RKRob Kearney
... pretty pumped, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's fucking badass. Listen, man, it is an entertaining thing to watch the strongest fucking humans in the world.
- RKRob Kearney
Absolutely.
- JRJoe Rogan
The idea that that's not a big thing, but golf is... Sorry, Jamie.
- RKRob Kearney
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
But the people who watch golf on TV, 'cause I don't play golf so I don't watch golf, right? The people that watch golf all play golf. But everybody will watch some fucking gorilla try to throw a barrel over the top of a, a pole vault beam.
- RKRob Kearney
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
You know? Like that's-
- RKRob Kearney
It's just, it's a spectacle, right? Like-
- 56:42 – 1:13:19
Training hacks and recovery culture: smelling salts, slaps, and sauna
- JRJoe Rogan
What is, what is it about smelling salts that get you, uh, ramped up?
- RKRob Kearney
I mean-
- JRJoe Rogan
They crack 'em under their nose, right?
- RKRob Kearney
Yeah, yeah. It hurts. Um.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah?
- RKRob Kearney
So I think it, I think it just like initiates his like fight or flight.
- JRJoe Rogan
Is that legal before tournaments?
- RKRob Kearney
Oh, yeah. I got a, I-
- JRJoe Rogan
Really?
- RKRob Kearney
(sighs) I woulda-
- JRJoe Rogan
You do it?
- RKRob Kearney
I shoulda brought some, man. I coulda had you try it.
- JRJoe Rogan
I wanna try it.
- RKRob Kearney
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- RKRob Kearney
I got one that's literally called Hellfire.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) Wait a minute. So they have brands of smelling salts?
- RKRob Kearney
Oh, d- there's entire companies that just make smelling salts.
- JRJoe Rogan
Just for lifting?
- RKRob Kearney
Yeah, this company that I work at, which um-
- JRJoe Rogan
Jamie, order up some smelling salts. We're gonna do this.
- RKRob Kearney
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
'Cause we're putting in a gym next door.
- RKRob Kearney
Do you want like legit like hardcore shit?
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, yeah. I'm not going soft.
- RKRob Kearney
So do you know the guy Juji Mufu?
- JRJoe Rogan
Um, yes.
- RKRob Kearney
Right? Like s-
- JRJoe Rogan
I know him because of Derek from MorePlatesMoreDates.com.
- RKRob Kearney
Yeah.
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