Joe Rogan Experience #1730 - Cameron Hanes

1. 0:00 – 15:00

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   1. NANarrator0:00

      (drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience.

   2. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music) Did you ... I told you about the mountain lion that Colton and I saw in Utah?

   3. CHCameron Hanes0:17

      No, but I ... You didn't, but I heard-

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:19

      I didn't?

   5. CHCameron Hanes0:19

      No. I heard you talking to Rinella.

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:23

      Yeah.

   7. CHCameron Hanes0:23

      Yeah, yeah.

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:24

      Dude.

   9. CHCameron Hanes0:24

      Yeah.

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:25

       It was giant.

   11. CHCameron Hanes0:26

       You said it was huge, and you were in the truck.

   12. JRJoe Rogan0:28

       It was huge. Oh, my God, I was scared in the truck.

   13. CHCameron Hanes0:30

       Yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan0:30

       It was like a giant pumpkin head.

   15. CHCameron Hanes0:31

       Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan0:31

       It was huge. It was, uh, a 170-plus pound cat.

   17. CHCameron Hanes0:35

       Man.

   18. JRJoe Rogan0:35

       Like big, big cat.

   19. CHCameron Hanes0:36

       I've never seen one there-

   20. JRJoe Rogan0:38

       (laughs)

   21. CHCameron Hanes0:38

       ... but they're there.

   22. JRJoe Rogan0:39

       I've only seen a little one, like a 60, 70 pound one running across a street in-

   23. CHCameron Hanes0:43

       Mm-hmm.

   24. JRJoe Rogan0:43

       ... Santa Barbara, and then one in Colorado I saw in the woods, like a glimpse.

   25. CHCameron Hanes0:48

       Mm-hmm.

   26. JRJoe Rogan0:48

       Quick glimpse.

   27. CHCameron Hanes0:49

       Mm-hmm.

   28. JRJoe Rogan0:50

       It might even have been a bobcat, honestly, the one in, in Colorado. It was so quick. The one in-

   29. CHCameron Hanes0:55

       Yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan0:55

       ... Santa Barbara was definitely a mountain lion 'cause of the tail.
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   Yeah. …

   1. CHCameron Hanes15:00

      was in tatters.

   2. JRJoe Rogan15:02

      Yeah.

   3. CHCameron Hanes15:02

      God.

   4. JRJoe Rogan15:03

      Yeah, it's, whoa, crazy fucking sport, man. And Canelo-

   5. CHCameron Hanes15:07

      Yeah.

   6. JRJoe Rogan15:07

      We... The, the thing about Canelo that's so interesting to me is that Canelo's a big puncher, but he's also really skillful defensively.

   7. CHCameron Hanes15:17

      Mm-hmm.

   8. JRJoe Rogan15:17

      That's usually not the case. Usually those big punchers, they kind of wade in and they throw bombs.

   9. CHCameron Hanes15:23

      Right.

   10. JRJoe Rogan15:23

       And they're, they're so... They're concentrating so hard on connecting with a big shot that they don't have, like, the sort of defensive skills-

   11. CHCameron Hanes15:31

       Mm-hmm.

   12. JRJoe Rogan15:32

       ... that, like, a Floyd Mayweather has.

   13. CHCameron Hanes15:33

       Right.

   14. JRJoe Rogan15:33

       Who was the best defensive fighter ever, in my opinion.

   15. CHCameron Hanes15:36

       Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan15:36

       But when he fought Floyd, I think he had such a hard time hitting Floyd that he realized, like, "Oh, I gotta develop these kinda skills."

   17. CHCameron Hanes15:44

       Mm-hmm.

   18. JRJoe Rogan15:44

       And then if you see Canelo, like when he fought Danny Jacobs, and he's fought... In the second fight with Triple G too, like, he developed these kinda defensive skills-

   19. CHCameron Hanes15:52

       Mm-hmm.

   20. JRJoe Rogan15:52

       ... that he never had before.

   21. CHCameron Hanes15:54

       Yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan15:54

       And they keep getting better. So now he's like one of the best defensive fighters in the world, and also-

   23. CHCameron Hanes15:59

       Crazy power.

   24. JRJoe Rogan15:59

       ... one of the best offensive fighters in the world.

   25. CHCameron Hanes16:01

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan16:01

       It's amazing.

   27. CHCameron Hanes16:03

       Yeah. The reason why I brought that up is 'cause Kamaru's definitely talking about he just wants a big f- money fights now.

   28. JRJoe Rogan16:09

       Yeah.

   29. CHCameron Hanes16:10

       So-

   30. JRJoe Rogan16:11

       I get that. Well, he's probably g- like, a year away from a knee replacement.
3. 30:00 – 45:00

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   1. JRJoe Rogan30:00

      gonna put this in there."

   2. CHCameron Hanes30:01

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan30:01

      "We're gonna put all this," and then-

   4. CHCameron Hanes30:02

      So free shit for everybody.

   5. JRJoe Rogan30:03

      But then it all goes away.

   6. CHCameron Hanes30:04

      Yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan30:04

      By the time the bill gets signed, all that stuff's gone. And it's like-

   8. CHCameron Hanes30:07

      Yeah, but they can't get anything through.

   9. JRJoe Rogan30:08

      Right. They can't get anything through. I don't think they wanted to get that through. I don't... I think with a lot of those things, they propose them so that all the progressive feels- feel really good.

   10. CHCameron Hanes30:16

       Oh, maybe.

   11. JRJoe Rogan30:16

       And then once they get it into place, then the big corporate b- y- you know, machine behind it, like, "Hey, fuck face."

   12. CHCameron Hanes30:21

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan30:21

       "You're not passing any of that, right?"

   14. CHCameron Hanes30:22

       Right.

   15. JRJoe Rogan30:23

       Like, "No, no, no, no, this is nonsense."

   16. CHCameron Hanes30:25

       (laughs) ... uh...

   17. JRJoe Rogan30:26

       You ever see how big the bill is? It's like, this-

   18. CHCameron Hanes30:28

       Yeah. Oh.

   19. JRJoe Rogan30:28

       ... it's like, there's no way anyone's reading it.

   20. CHCameron Hanes30:29

       No.

   21. JRJoe Rogan30:31

       One of the Republicans, a Republican senator held it up, and he was like, saying like, "Do you think Joe Biden's read this?"

   22. CHCameron Hanes30:36

       Oh my God.

   23. JRJoe Rogan30:37

       "Do you, do you think Nancy Pelosi's read this?" They're not, they haven't read this.

   24. CHCameron Hanes30:40

       Don't you... I mean, politics.

   25. JRJoe Rogan30:42

       Gross.

   26. CHCameron Hanes30:42

       It's just exhausting.

   27. JRJoe Rogan30:43

       It's gross.

   28. CHCameron Hanes30:44

       It's, yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan30:44

       It's the grossest thing in the world, other than murder and rape.

   30. CHCameron Hanes30:47

       (laughs)
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   Yeah. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan45:00

      bad, but we need to be accurate. Like, you can't not tell people about the negative response that some people have. You can't t- not tell people-

   2. CHCameron Hanes45:10

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan45:10

      ... about the adverse reactions.

   4. CHCameron Hanes45:11

      Just, just say, "Hey, here's-"

   5. JRJoe Rogan45:13

      Say all of it.

   6. CHCameron Hanes45:14

      "... what you're dealing with. You make the decision."

   7. JRJoe Rogan45:14

      Yeah. It should be, you should know all of it.

   8. CHCameron Hanes45:17

      Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan45:17

      They should report on the deaths.

   10. CHCameron Hanes45:19

       Mm-hmm.

   11. JRJoe Rogan45:19

       They should report on all these soccer players that are having fucking heart attacks.

   12. CHCameron Hanes45:22

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan45:23

       They should report on all these different things. Say what is going on, but also show all these people that got COVID and they were vaccinated and they survived and they're okay-

   14. CHCameron Hanes45:33

       Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan45:33

       ... and maybe they wouldn't have.

   16. CHCameron Hanes45:35

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan45:35

       Show all these people that are older, show all these people with compromised immune systems.

   18. CHCameron Hanes45:39

       Just show your hand.

   19. JRJoe Rogan45:39

       Show everything.

   20. CHCameron Hanes45:40

       Show your hand and then the-

   21. JRJoe Rogan45:42

       And, and don't f-

   22. CHCameron Hanes45:42

       ... the people make the decision.

   23. JRJoe Rogan45:43

       Don't force people into taking this shit (clears throat) . That's where...

   24. CHCameron Hanes45:47

       Like, and Biden is still pushing that ma- vaccine mandate for m- with em- employees or employers with over 100 people.

   25. JRJoe Rogan45:54

       Yeah.

   26. CHCameron Hanes45:54

       You know, and like n- now they have till January 4th. And that, that could be the way I quit my job (laughs) because-

   27. JRJoe Rogan46:00

       Good. Good.

   28. CHCameron Hanes46:00

       ... there's more than-

   29. JRJoe Rogan46:01

       I'm trying to get you to quit your job.

   30. CHCameron Hanes46:02

       ... more than 100 people where I work, and they've been, the general manager there has been pretty good about it. But it's like, they, they say, you know, if OSHA says this or it's a mandate, it's like, man, it's tough.
5. 1:00:00 – 1:09:15

   Mm-hmm. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:00:00

      you, you have to harden your mind too.

   2. CHCameron Hanes1:00:03

      Mm-hmm.

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:00:03

      That's the most impressive thing about people like you and, um, uh, Goggins and these folks that do these endurance events. It's like, you gotta harden your mind-

   4. CHCameron Hanes1:00:12

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:00:12

      ... if you're gonna run for three days.

   6. CHCameron Hanes1:00:14

      Yeah. That's, that's definitely the hardest part.

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:00:17

      Mm-hmm.

   8. CHCameron Hanes1:00:17

      Yeah. But... And they say, you know, I mean, where the change happens, it's like, b- being consecutive days of training, that's good, but it's over years. If you... Not very many people do it for years, you know what I mean?

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:00:31

      Right.

   10. CHCameron Hanes1:00:31

       Everybody goes. They, they get all fired up, um, energized to do something, then that drops off. They might do it-

   11. JRJoe Rogan1:00:38

       Right.

   12. CHCameron Hanes1:00:38

       ... for a week, but then they drop.

   13. JRJoe Rogan1:00:38

       Like folks who lose weight and then gain it back.

   14. CHCameron Hanes1:00:40

       Yeah. I mean, but if you can just continue to put in the work, punch that time clock, for y- your life...... yeah, I mean, it can change dramatically.

   15. JRJoe Rogan1:00:48

       Yeah.

   16. CHCameron Hanes1:00:49

       Your body will change. Your everything will change. Your, your, how you look at things changes, but it takes that consistent effort.

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:00:55

       The consistency is so hard because there's a lot of comfort in those old patterns.

   18. CHCameron Hanes1:01:00

       Mm-hmm.

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:01:01

       And even if the old patterns are just eating cake and watching TV, like some-

   20. CHCameron Hanes1:01:04

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:01:04

       ... people just fall back to them, or drugs. Like some people, you know, they, they kick the pills and their life is doing good, and then they, they, they, you know, get to a point where they made a lot of improvement and then they'll slide right back into the pills again. You're like-

   22. CHCameron Hanes1:01:19

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:01:19

       ... "Why? Why, you were doing so good. Why are you, why are you doing drugs again?"

   24. CHCameron Hanes1:01:23

       I know.

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:01:24

       It's almost like that pattern is better for their brain because it's, they, it's, they know what happens when you do that-

   26. CHCameron Hanes1:01:33

       Mm-hmm.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:01:33

       ... versus the open-ended possibilities of just going for it.

   28. CHCameron Hanes1:01:39

       Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:01:39

       Just trying to live a maximized life. Because if you do and you fail, the pain of that, it's difficult to deal with.

   30. CHCameron Hanes1:01:46

       Mm-hmm.

Episode duration: 3:02:52