Joe Rogan Experience #1738 - Ben O'Brien

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast,…

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:00

      (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

   2. NANarrator0:04

      The Joe Rogan Experience. (energetic music) Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:12

      Oh, hi, Ben O'Brien.

   4. BOBen O'Brien0:13

      Hey, Joe Rogan.

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:14

      Good to see you, my friend. This, been a while.

   6. BOBen O'Brien0:15

      God, it feels really comfortable in here. I know. I missed you.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:19

      Oh, this is, uh, so appropriate that I'm mixing this with a nice little Benchmade knife.

   8. BOBen O'Brien0:22

      Oh.

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:23

      We're- we're making rye brains. We-

   10. BOBen O'Brien0:25

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:25

       This is a, uh-

   12. BOBen O'Brien0:27

       Yeah. We are.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:27

       Well, we figured out a couple of different drinks one time on a hunting trip in Lanai, and one of them was the Cat Lady.

   14. BOBen O'Brien0:33

       (laughs)

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:33

       That was John Dudley's creation. (laughs)

   16. BOBen O'Brien0:37

       (laughs)

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:37

       The Cat Lady.

   18. BOBen O'Brien0:38

       Remember that? I, there's no way to know. Do you remember what was in the Cat Lady?

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:41

       The Cat Lady had red bull, red wine, and I think it was tequila?

   20. BOBen O'Brien0:46

       Tequila.

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:47

       Yeah.

   22. BOBen O'Brien0:47

       For sure.

   23. JRJoe Rogan0:48

       Yeah. And, uh-

   24. BOBen O'Brien0:49

       There's no way, there's no way to really-

   25. JRJoe Rogan0:52

       That John Dudley.

   26. BOBen O'Brien0:52

       ... recreate that. John Dudley's everybody's uncle.

   27. JRJoe Rogan0:55

       He can put them away.

   28. BOBen O'Brien0:56

       Who can... Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan0:57

       Yeah, he knows how to put them away and we did a podcast and-

   30. BOBen O'Brien0:59

       Podcasts in Paradise?
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   Oh, Jesus. …

   1. BOBen O'Brien15:00

      didn't want to get run over, but I wanted to kind of entice him this way. So I was just cow calling and it wasn't... It was a little bit after the rut, so it wasn't full rut. And he starts coming, I see him look over and he starts coming down the ridge. So I get all set up and I look back to where he came from, and this big brown flash goes down the hill. (blows) I thought it was him. So I said, "Daddy, get ready. He's coming down. He's running. He's coming in."

   2. JRJoe Rogan15:23

      Oh, Jesus.

   3. BOBen O'Brien15:24

      And I'm f- I'm looking this way and the bottom of the drainage is behind me. And I knew... This longer story is that I knew a buddy of mine had killed... His brother-in-law had killed an elk in the drainage too the day before. I had a trail camera in that spot. That trail camera had picked up wolves literally probably 500 yards from where we were standing at that moment. I had a trail camera that only weeks before had picked up wolves killing cattle.

   4. JRJoe Rogan15:51

      Wow.

   5. BOBen O'Brien15:52

      Chasing cattle. Ki- I got videos on my phone, wolves killing cattle. And so I had talked to the game warden and I said, "Hey man, just wanna let you know," (laughs) "you should tell the landowner his cows are getting whacked up here." And he said, "Listen." I said, "Well..." He said, "Are you gonna hunt the carcass of the cow that was killed?" I said, "No. I'm not necessarily interested in that." He said, "Well, good, because there's a grizzly bear in this... There's a big boar grizzly bear, male grizzly bear in this zone. And you know how they are, they can smell, smell a carcass from five, seven miles away." He said, "He'll probably be over." I said, "Okay, noted." And he said, "If, if you kill an elk, get it outta here."

   6. JRJoe Rogan16:31

      Oof.

   7. BOBen O'Brien16:31

      So my buddy kills an elk. It snows when he kills this elk. This is the day before we were there. He said there were wolf tracks on his tracks. He had one pack out to the truck with half the elk, went back to get the other half. There were wolf prints on his tracks in the time it took for him to go back to the truck and then come back for the rest of the meat.

   8. JRJoe Rogan16:48

      How, how long is the, the hike out?

   9. BOBen O'Brien16:50

      I, I can't imagine it was more than 45 minutes.

   10. JRJoe Rogan16:53

       Exhales so they were waiting.

   11. BOBen O'Brien16:54

       They were waiting.

   12. JRJoe Rogan16:55

       They probably l- did, did he rifle hunt or bow hunt?

   13. BOBen O'Brien16:58

       It was bow hunt.

   14. JRJoe Rogan16:59

       They, they probably know-

   15. BOBen O'Brien17:00

       They know.

   16. JRJoe Rogan17:01

       ... when they see you-

   17. BOBen O'Brien17:02

       They know.

   18. JRJoe Rogan17:02

       ... they're like, "Oh, this guy's gonna go shoot an elk."

   19. BOBen O'Brien17:03

       "That guy over there?"

   20. JRJoe Rogan17:04

       Yeah.

   21. BOBen O'Brien17:04

       "Look at that little, look at that silly little bitch."

   22. JRJoe Rogan17:06

       Yeah.

   23. BOBen O'Brien17:06

       "Just prancing around his camo."

   24. JRJoe Rogan17:07

       Not only that, they leave behind the best part for a wolf, the liver.

   25. BOBen O'Brien17:12

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan17:12

       Like a lot of people, liv- leave behind the guts.

   27. BOBen O'Brien17:14

       You've been taking livers like that?

   28. JRJoe Rogan17:15

       Oh yeah.

   29. BOBen O'Brien17:16

       Yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan17:16

       Dude, I eat it all the time.
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   No, your problem is…

   1. JRJoe Rogan30:00

      It's like, I, I try all kinds of other things to just-

   2. BOBen O'Brien30:02

      No, your problem is you're always trying to better yourself.

   3. JRJoe Rogan30:04

      Yes.

   4. BOBen O'Brien30:04

      And that's annoying for people.

   5. JRJoe Rogan30:05

      So I try to better my face.

   6. BOBen O'Brien30:07

      (laughs)

   7. JRJoe Rogan30:07

      I try... literally, like, my jaw's gotten stronger because of this. I've been doing it for years.

   8. BOBen O'Brien30:11

      What can you use that for, you think, as an application?

   9. JRJoe Rogan30:13

      It's good to take a punch.

   10. BOBen O'Brien30:14

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan30:15

       If you need to take a punch-

   12. BOBen O'Brien30:15

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan30:16

       ... your, your jaw will be stronger.

   14. BOBen O'Brien30:17

       Kind of rock and roll.

   15. JRJoe Rogan30:17

       If you need to bite things, you have more bite power. Like, I chew right through tough meat.

   16. BOBen O'Brien30:22

       I'm used to it.

   17. JRJoe Rogan30:23

       It's true.

   18. BOBen O'Brien30:23

       But, yeah. I appreciate all cuts of meat now because of that.

   19. JRJoe Rogan30:26

       Yeah.

   20. BOBen O'Brien30:27

       And that appreciation comes from every ... Like, you know exactly ... And I as a hunter for when ... A- also went a long time not knowing how to butcher a full animal from nose to tail.

   21. JRJoe Rogan30:37

       Mm-hmm.

   22. BOBen O'Brien30:37

       And I don't want to overplay what that really is. But it is when I g- open my freezer ... And I know you've probably talked about this before, but when I open my freezer, I get this comfort.

   23. JRJoe Rogan30:47

       Mm-hmm.

   24. BOBen O'Brien30:47

       Especially, during the pandemic.

   25. JRJoe Rogan30:49

       Right.

   26. BOBen O'Brien30:49

       Whoop.

   27. JRJoe Rogan30:50

       Oh, yeah.

   28. BOBen O'Brien30:50

       I look in there. That is ... And I look, "Oh, that's ... Oh, my gosh. That's the sirloin tip that comes off-"

   29. JRJoe Rogan30:55

       Mm-hmm.

   30. BOBen O'Brien30:55

       "... the hindquarter. It's wrapped around the bone. I know I'm going to make a roast out of that. I know that came from an elk that lived right, right up there. I know he was three and a half years old." And I turn around his head's on the wall, I'm like, "Oh, that's cool."
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   That's wild. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan45:00

      in the region for several hundred thousand years and eventually went extinct. But if you see what these things look like... Go back up to that skull again.

   2. BOBen O'Brien45:08

      That's wild.

   3. JRJoe Rogan45:08

      Look at the fucking brow bone, man.

   4. BOBen O'Brien45:10

      Oof.

   5. JRJoe Rogan45:11

      I bet that dude could take a punch.

   6. BOBen O'Brien45:13

      (laughs) He probably wasn't chewing on anything for his jaw.

   7. JRJoe Rogan45:15

      He probably got hit by a lot of shit, like-

   8. BOBen O'Brien45:17

      But that's what... When you listen to Sapiens, and you, and you understand that book, they're saying, like, the branches of the tree. We were just one branch of the tree-

   9. JRJoe Rogan45:23

      Mm-hmm.

   10. BOBen O'Brien45:23

       We happened to be... kept, keep growing-

   11. JRJoe Rogan45:25

       Yeah.

   12. BOBen O'Brien45:25

       ... while others died, Homo floresiensis and this, the Dragon Man.

   13. JRJoe Rogan45:27

       'Cause we were the ones where the aliens came in-

   14. BOBen O'Brien45:29

       That's right.

   15. JRJoe Rogan45:29

       ... and fucking with our DNA.

   16. BOBen O'Brien45:30

       Built the pyramids.

   17. JRJoe Rogan45:31

       Yeah. We got d-...

   18. BOBen O'Brien45:31

       But if you look at, uh, the, the bones of... I think the Dragon Man is on... Where is it? Um, Dragon Man is on the far left. So that's the one... Look at the fucking eyebrow bones. Oh, look at the brows, man.

   19. JRJoe Rogan45:43

       The brow bones are wild, man.

   20. BOBen O'Brien45:45

       Look at the crown of the skull is kind of elongated.

   21. JRJoe Rogan45:47

       I mean, imagine running into one of those dudes in the woods. You'd be like, "Hey, buddy." (laughs)

   22. BOBen O'Brien45:50

       I want... I... One time I went to-

   23. JRJoe Rogan45:52

       Thank you.

   24. BOBen O'Brien45:52

       ... th- the Smithsonian.

   25. JRJoe Rogan45:53

       What's up, Jimmy?

   26. It says ancient human on the far left may have evolved into the Dragon Man on the far right.

   27. Oh, the far right is-

   28. BOBen O'Brien45:59

       Oh.

   29. JRJoe Rogan45:59

       Oh, co-... Oh, I see. So... Oh, the far right is even bigger.

   30. BOBen O'Brien46:02

       Much bigger.
5. 1:00:00 – 1:04:59

   Snoop. …

   1. BOBen O'Brien1:00:00

      go off the fucking rails. But, uh, the reality of this is, like, we're (laughs) what is that?

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:00:05

      Snoop.

   3. BOBen O'Brien1:00:05

      Oh, that's Snoop's ... let me see. Snoop's-

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:00:08

      What does it say, Premium Nutrients? Is that what it says?

   5. BOBen O'Brien1:00:09

      Snoop's Premium Nutrients.

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:00:11

      (laughs)

   7. BOBen O'Brien1:00:11

      Growing science-

   8. JRJoe Rogan1:00:12

      Nutrients?

   9. BOBen O'Brien1:00:12

      ... higher knowledge.

   10. JRJoe Rogan1:00:15

       Nutrients? (laughs)

   11. BOBen O'Brien1:00:15

       (laughs) Hand-rolled with glass tips-

   12. JRJoe Rogan1:00:17

       Yeah.

   13. BOBen O'Brien1:00:17

       ... grown with Snoop's Premium Nutrients. Snoop has his own fucking nutrients.

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:00:21

       Nutrients. He's got nutrients.

   15. BOBen O'Brien1:00:22

       Yeah. Maybe one day I'll have my own.

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:00:23

       I'm not gonna waste my time with Alpha Brand. He's going straight to the mother land.

   17. BOBen O'Brien1:00:25

       He's like, "I'm gonna own the nutrients."

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:00:27

       But, th- the point is that what ... where we, we separate ourselves into these ideological categories.

   19. BOBen O'Brien1:00:35

       Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:00:35

       These groups, left and right and right and left. And I'm a weird one because I'm a part of both, in a lot of ways.

   21. BOBen O'Brien1:00:40

       Me too.

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:00:41

       But, but I'm more left than I am right. I'm, I'm, I'm very open-minded-... in most things. My parents were hippies and I grew up on welfare. Like, I believe in social services. I believe that we have to have some sort of a, a safety net for folks when they're down and out and single moms and-

   23. BOBen O'Brien1:00:56

       Yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:00:57

       ... and people that are poor, and, and people that are escaping abuse and bad situations. And I think there's a place for that, I think it's important. And this idea that everyone needs to pull themselves up by their bootstraps, when people say that kinda shit, I'm like, "You don't know the hardship-

   25. BOBen O'Brien1:01:11

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:01:11

       ... that some folks go through." It's not a fair game.

   27. BOBen O'Brien1:01:14

       Put a little empathy on the situation for a minute.

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:01:15

       Yes.

   29. BOBen O'Brien1:01:16

       There's, it's not like there's no room for empathy. It has to end at some point-

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:01:19

       Right.

Episode duration: 3:29:48