Joe Rogan Experience #1744 - Derek from More Plates More Dates

Micro‑dosing bioidentical testosterone, EPO, and GH, using designer or animal‑derived hormones, and building personal ‘biological passports’ allow some elite athletes to enhance performance while staying under current detection thresholds.

Even if total testosterone is kept within the normal lab range, exogenous TRT gives a steady, non‑fluctuating hormone level and often lowers SHBG, boosting free testosterone beyond what a natural athlete with the same total T could sustain, especially under heavy training and weight cuts.

Rogan and Derek argue that for non‑competitors, treating clinically low testosterone (with monitoring and bloodwork) can improve energy, muscle mass, bone density, and quality of life, and shouldn’t be stigmatized as ‘cheating’ the way sports doping is.

Undiagnosed apnea wrecks sleep quality, daytime function, and long‑term cardiovascular health; tools like CPAP or effective oral devices can be a complete game‑changer, but many men avoid diagnosis out of ignorance or vanity.

Examples like Mark Kerr, Rich Piana, and Ronnie Coleman illustrate that staying huge into your 40s+ with high‑dose cycles and brutal training leads to organ strain, orthopedic destruction, addiction, and early death or severe disability.