Joe Rogan Experience #1749 - Shane Dorian

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   (drumbeats) Joe Rogan podcast,…

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:00

      (drumbeats) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

   2. NANarrator0:04

      The Joe Rogan Experience.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (instrumental music) Have you ever seen an NFT?

   4. SDShane Dorian0:14

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:14

      In the flesh? See that one? That's a, that's a NFT.

   6. SDShane Dorian0:16

      Oh, very cool.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:17

      Did you ever know?

   8. SDShane Dorian0:19

      Sorta.

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:19

      What? Sorta?

   10. SDShane Dorian0:20

       I didn't ... I've never seen a physical one like that.

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:22

       Well, it's a ... That's a v- a vis- visual representation of an NFT.

   12. SDShane Dorian0:24

       Right, yeah, there's like a ... A physical digital one.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:26

       Yeah, I mean, the actual NFT, does that come with that? Do I have to, like, scan it or something?

   14. SDShane Dorian0:30

       Is that you and Marshall?

   15. GCGuest Co-conversationalist0:31

       Nah, I was gonna have to tell you about that later.

   16. JRJoe Rogan0:32

       No, no, that's Elon.

   17. SDShane Dorian0:33

       We should, uh ...

   18. JRJoe Rogan0:34

       That shit's called ... It says Gigachad. The ID ... I don't know why that ... what Gigachad is. It's like-

   19. SDShane Dorian0:39

       Maybe we should save this for the podcast.

   20. JRJoe Rogan0:41

       We are podcasting.

   21. SDShane Dorian0:41

       Are we?

   22. JRJoe Rogan0:42

       Yeah, it's rolling.

   23. SDShane Dorian0:42

       (laughs)

   24. GCGuest Co-conversationalist0:44

       (laughs)

   25. JRJoe Rogan0:44

       That's how we roll. Um, but it's, uh, this guy Beeple. Do you know who Beeple is?

   26. SDShane Dorian0:48

       I do know who Beeple is.

   27. JRJoe Rogan0:49

       Yeah. Uh, Beeple was here the other day and, and he, uh-

   28. SDShane Dorian0:51

       No way.

   29. JRJoe Rogan0:51

       Yeah, he gave me that. It's the shit. He's cool as fuck. He's a fun guy.

   30. SDShane Dorian0:54

       I can't wait to hear that one. That's-
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   There's a lot of…

   1. JRJoe Rogan15:00

      is. But I do know whoever these people are, they're pretending that they represent me when they fucking for sure don't. So there's that.

   2. SDShane Dorian15:07

      There's a lot of misinformation out there these days.

   3. JRJoe Rogan15:10

      (sighs) Thee- there is. There is.

   4. SDShane Dorian15:11

      And cutting through the bullshit is-

   5. JRJoe Rogan15:13

      So hard.

   6. SDShane Dorian15:14

      ... it's difficult. It's more complicated than ever.

   7. JRJoe Rogan15:16

      It is.

   8. SDShane Dorian15:16

      I think it's by design.

   9. JRJoe Rogan15:18

      Well, I don't know if it's by design. It's just, it's conf- the world is fucking confusing.

   10. SDShane Dorian15:24

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan15:24

       You know, this digital world that we live in is like, goddamn it, there's so much going on. There's so many platforms, and there's so much fucking material floating around, and NFTs, and...

   12. SDShane Dorian15:34

       (laughs) NFTs.

   13. JRJoe Rogan15:36

       Everybody has a podcast. Do you know there's two million goddamn podcasts now?

   14. SDShane Dorian15:40

       What?

   15. JRJoe Rogan15:40

       Two million. Two million. And w- Jamie, wasn't there like one million at the start of the pandemic?

   16. GCGuest Co-conversationalist15:45

       I'll check now. It's probably two and a half million or something by now.

   17. JRJoe Rogan15:48

       It grows like a fucking weed.

   18. SDShane Dorian15:50

       Everybody has a podcast.

   19. JRJoe Rogan15:51

       Everybody's got a podcast. Yeah, everybody's got one.

   20. SDShane Dorian15:56

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan15:56

       (sighs) I have people coming on my shows, uh, to my comedy shows, yelling out, "Will you be on my podcast?" I'm like, "N- What?"

   22. SDShane Dorian16:01

       (laughs)

   23. JRJoe Rogan16:02

       "Who are you? What is, what is happening?"

   24. GCGuest Co-conversationalist16:04

       Yeah, that was just, like, April there was two million, so.

   25. JRJoe Rogan16:06

       Yeah, probably by now there's, like, way more.

   26. SDShane Dorian16:09

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan16:09

       May, June, July, August, September, October, November, oh my God, December, oh my God. It's probably like another hu- another million.

   28. SDShane Dorian16:16

       Yeah. The same website, it didn't really update the s- the sites. I think it's kinda done by AI. It said the same thing.

   29. JRJoe Rogan16:20

       But a year before that, it was only one million, or a year and a half before that.

   30. SDShane Dorian16:24

       Mm-hmm.
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   Yeah. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan30:00

      alternative to surgery to try to help you."

   2. SDShane Dorian30:03

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan30:03

      But a lot of doctors are like, "It's time to cut."

   4. SDShane Dorian30:05

      Right.

   5. JRJoe Rogan30:05

      And I have friends that have had back surgery, and the moment that they got out of back surgery, other things started going wrong with their back. And then, it was like a cascade. It just kept happening, and they've had like three, four, five back surgeries where they have a bunch of disks that are fused together in their back, so their whole back is like this. They're like a fucking, a robot. And then, they have all sorts of weird problems. Like, I have one friend, one of his calves is atrophied.

   6. SDShane Dorian30:30

      Wow.

   7. JRJoe Rogan30:30

      Because the nerves from the inflammation in his back surgery, there was a, it was an issue, it went wrong. And so his fucking calf is not getting the signals. So his calf, like, shriveled up like a bone. So one of his calves is like a fucking bone.

   8. SDShane Dorian30:45

      Oh, geez.

   9. JRJoe Rogan30:46

      Uh, it's, it's wr- And he's a big fucking burly dude, and he's only got this one bullshit leg. It's crazy.

   10. SDShane Dorian30:52

       Well, I'm grateful for... I'm, I'm back. I'm surfing, I'm back in the water, and I'm so happy. Fuck, it's like-

   11. JRJoe Rogan31:00

       That's awesome.

   12. SDShane Dorian31:00

       ... pretty gnarly. The whole, uh, the, the whole s- the surgery sucked. It was... I had an amazing surgeon and a really good experience with that. But like, it hurt like a bastard. I mean, like, horrib- horribly so. I remember that, remember that scene in, uh... Remember Kathy Bates? She was in that-

   13. JRJoe Rogan31:16

       Oh, yes.

   14. SDShane Dorian31:16

       ... really well-known-

   15. JRJoe Rogan31:17

       Misery.

   16. SDShane Dorian31:17

       Misery. Remember when he wakes-

   17. JRJoe Rogan31:19

       Oh.

   18. SDShane Dorian31:19

       ... up and she has a sledgehammer?

   19. JRJoe Rogan31:20

       Yeah.

   20. SDShane Dorian31:21

       And she goes whack to his leg?

   21. JRJoe Rogan31:22

       Aah.

   22. SDShane Dorian31:23

       That's what I felt like. That's what my knee felt like. I felt like someone took a sledgehammer to it.

   23. JRJoe Rogan31:27

       Oh, my God.

   24. SDShane Dorian31:28

       When I w- when I, when I woke up back, you know, like, in the, in my, in my, in my, in my buddy's house after surgery, the pain was excruciating. And then they had me in on, um, Percocets, I think.

   25. JRJoe Rogan31:39

       Hm.

   26. SDShane Dorian31:40

       And, um, I got off them as soon as I could, but, ugh, ugh, just hate pain medication, all that shit. It's just gross. And now I'm like back surfing, my knee's feeling better. I got a really in- really, really great, um, like a killer-

   27. JRJoe Rogan31:55

       Physical therapist?

   28. SDShane Dorian31:55

       ... custom knee brace that I wear surfing.

   29. JRJoe Rogan31:58

       Oh, nice.

   30. SDShane Dorian31:59

       Yeah, so...
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   Mm-hmm. …

   1. SDShane Dorian45:00

      or whatever it is.

   2. JRJoe Rogan45:00

      Mm-hmm.

   3. SDShane Dorian45:01

      And, like, week by week, it gets closer to this finishi- finished product. It was kind of similar to that. They go, "Here's your brain, here's what it looks like." And basically, your, the back of your brain, the middle of your brain, and the front of your brain... I, I don't know this stuff very well, right? But, um, they are three separate parts, but they work as, as one. And you really want that alignment. You want the, the back, the middle, and the front to have alignment. Like, all the, the energy and how you process information is all fucked up if, if the s- if, if, if the signals are crossed.

   4. JRJoe Rogan45:29

      Right.

   5. SDShane Dorian45:29

      And if your brain's not aligned, back, middle, and front, you're gonna have issues, major issues. So, in mine, the back was fine, the middle was pretty good, but the front, it was completely off and, and like this. Like, you wanna see, like... Basically, on a chart, you wanna see it like this mountain range all in the middle, in one-

   6. JRJoe Rogan45:45

      Mountain range?

   7. SDShane Dorian45:46

      Like, real steep. Like, a chart, like-

   8. JRJoe Rogan45:47

      What... And what is it representing? Is it representing brain function?

   9. SDShane Dorian45:51

      Brain function.

   10. JRJoe Rogan45:51

       Oh.

   11. SDShane Dorian45:52

       Yeah. And how you process information. And so they were like, "Look, you have... Here's where your problem is. It's in the front of your brain and a little bit in the middle. And over all these treatments, it's gonna be, it's gonna be toward... Like, here's where you are now, here's where your brain would be optimum." And it's, and it's your... It's like my brain. It wasn't like, "Here's the optimum brain." It's like, "Here's..." It's like showing me my teeth all jacked up and where my teeth are gonna be in six months when it's finished.

   12. JRJoe Rogan46:16

       Oh.

   13. SDShane Dorian46:16

       And so they used, like, this personalized, um... Like, artificial intelligence reads through, like, hundreds of thousands of brain scans that they have. So it's like, if I have a certain type of brain, they have an optimum... Like, artificial intelligence basically spits out, like, a program for my brain. So I had, like, this USB. So they sent me, they sent me this really cool in, in-home machine, and a, like, a little USB drive with my brain data on it. So I click it in, I turn it on, I put the thing on for 30 minutes. And after 30 days, I mean... Well, after the, after the first... I should say this. After the first week in the in-clinic stuff, I was 17% closer to the finished brain.

   14. JRJoe Rogan46:54

       Wow.

   15. SDShane Dorian46:55

       Yeah. And I could see it. That, that... How I said it was like the, the, the brain activity on the chart from the scan. It should be all three, the front, back, front, middle, and back, should have a, a steep, like a mountain range in the middle. And my front was, like, dull and short and off to the side. And after one week, I was 17% closer to where my brain would be when it was totally optimized and perfect.

   16. JRJoe Rogan47:16

       In a perfect world, how often would you do it?

   17. SDShane Dorian47:20

       Well, your brain is interesting because it's not like a muscle. Like, say, say I started doing curls with, like, 30-pound dumbbells every day, and my muscles got jacked after six months, and then I put those things down and never did it again. My arms just go back to normal, right? Your brain's not like that. Your brain, once you... Like, say you have a perfect brain and you get, you get punched in the head by, um, Usman a hundred thousand times, and then your brain's all beat up. That's gonna stay beat up until you change it. So if you have brain treatment and it works really well, it pulls your brain back in a more, in a more optimized type of situation. And so for me, once my brain... After the 30 days, my brain was in a lot better shape. It... Everything was aligned. And I could not- I'd noticed I had... F- first thing I noticed is I had a whole lot more energy in the afternoons.

   18. JRJoe Rogan48:03

       Huh.

   19. SDShane Dorian48:03

       I used to have to drink, like, an energy drink or whatever it was. I, I, I needed some sort of boost in the afternoon to, like, stay super sharp. Um, and then I immediately had more energy. I would get less brain fatigue from reading or doing research or, or, you know. And then I was more clear, like, more, more mental clarity. I just felt way sharper. It's cool.

   20. JRJoe Rogan48:22

       That's fucking awesome.

   21. SDShane Dorian48:23

       Yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan48:24

       It's so cool that they have that now, 'cause for the longest time, there was no real treatments.

   23. SDShane Dorian48:28

       Yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan48:29

       My good friend-

   25. SDShane Dorian48:29

       It's cool.

   26. JRJoe Rogan48:29

       ... Dr. Mark Gordon, he, um, works with the Warrior Anger- Angel Foundation, which, uh, works with soldiers that have had traumatic brain injuries.... he's a, a TBI expert and, um, he says that people can get TBI from a lot of things that you would assume are innocuous. One of them, he said, is jet skis. And I go-

   27. SDShane Dorian48:49

       Huh.

   28. JRJoe Rogan48:50

       ... "Really?" He goes, "Yeah, man." He goes, "This thing where you go ehh bangc

   29. SDShane Dorian48:53

       Yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan48:53

       ... bang, bang." He goes, "Every time you're doing that, when you're do- buh, wide- riding waves and bouncing-
5. 1:00:00 – 1:06:27

   So when you go…

   1. SDShane Dorian1:00:00

      classes, it's really neat because they tell you, like, when that urge to breathe, that tells you, "You need to breathe right now or you're gonna black out or die," or whatever it is, especially if you're underwater, it's really scary, right? And so they teach you to go, "Okay, you need to hold through these, these, these, uh, these big contractions." And so, like, these contractions are, are happening and you're not paying attention to them when you're, like, in this meditative type of mindset, and that's how you can hold your breath for a super long time.

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:00:25

      So when you go through them, it, d- does it ever get easier when you, you hit those things?

   3. SDShane Dorian1:00:31

      Yeah.

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:00:31

      Or is it just something you learn how to deal with?

   5. SDShane Dorian1:00:33

      It's super uncomfortable, right? And so-

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:00:35

      Yeah.

   7. SDShane Dorian1:00:35

      ... you learn to deal with it. You learn to go, "Okay, this is totally normal. I know I can hold through multiple minutes of this, this, these contractions."

   8. JRJoe Rogan1:00:43

      This urge.

   9. SDShane Dorian1:00:44

      Yeah. See, then you end up, like, not even paying attention to them.

   10. JRJoe Rogan1:00:47

       Really?

   11. SDShane Dorian1:00:47

       Yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan1:00:48

       So it's still uncomfortable, but-

   13. SDShane Dorian1:00:48

       But you need to at the end because you get really, like, spacey and relaxed, like, h- like, super in this meditative state to where, like, at the end they, 'cause they start speeding up. Those contractions start speeding up and when they get to a certain, when they s- get to a certain, um, you know, when they start happening fast enough, you black out.So, when I was doing this- this- this underwater training, you know, you do it with a partner. There's a guy watching you all the time, so you don't have a sho- sh- uh, shallow water blackout and you don't drown.

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:01:17

       Jesus.

   15. SDShane Dorian1:01:17

       Yeah. But it was great, because I- when I would go surfing after that, and I was like, "Shit, I can hold my breath for like..." I forget what it was, like a minute and 45 seconds under pressure, and they tested you.

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:01:26

       Mm.

   17. SDShane Dorian1:01:26

       They'd have the- like, these- they would like- they would make you do squats or run, run on the- in the field, and then run back and do squats with your eyes closed, and then someone would push y- you as fast as they could from the back. And so you'd try to get that air, like you'd be doing squats with your eyes closed, so you never knew when they were gonna push you. And they would push you, and then as you were falling into the pool, in the one second you had to try and get as much air as you could. It was very similar to wipeout surfing. So, you- so from the moment that you realized you were going in, you had to go (inhales sharply) as fast as you could. And then soon as you hit the water, there was two divers in the water. They would hold you under water and like spin you around like you're in a washing machine.

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:02:00

       Oh, whoa. Fuck. (laughs)

   19. SDShane Dorian1:02:01

       Yeah. And then they would let you go, and then b- right before you got to the surface, they'd pull you back down, pull you back down. And they had watches, so they would be like, "Okay, Shane can hold his breath for a minute and 45 seconds under stress." And so they would do it until you blacked out.

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:02:14

       And did you black out?

   21. SDShane Dorian1:02:14

       And they'd bring you up, yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:02:15

       Oh, my God.

   23. SDShane Dorian1:02:16

       A couple different times.

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:02:17

       Fuck that. (laughs)

   25. SDShane Dorian1:02:18

       Yeah, it was horrible. And I felt like I had like, um, concussion-type symptoms after it. So, for two days, we did this kinda training. And every single night, I went home and like threw up and felt gross.

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:02:28

       Maybe you were getting concussions.

   27. SDShane Dorian1:02:30

       Yeah. But it was- it was worth it, because it-

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:02:32

       Yeah, I would imagine.

   29. SDShane Dorian1:02:33

       Yeah, it was great training.

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:02:34

       Like, the knowledge, this- the confidence.

Episode duration: 3:06:51