Joe Rogan Experience #1751 - Brian Simpson

Brian Simpson is a standup comedian and host of the podcast "BS with Brian Simpson." He's also on Season 3 of The Standups on Netflix premiering on Decemeber 29.

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0:00 – 0:39
Holiday catch-up to Prohibition-era drinking lore (and why people clink bottles)
1. NANarrator
  (drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience.
2. JRJoe Rogan
  Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music) We're up, Ryan.
3. BSBrian Simpson
  We're up. We're here, man.
4. JRJoe Rogan
  What's going on, brother? Good to see you.
5. BSBrian Simpson
  It's happening.
6. JRJoe Rogan
  It is?
7. BSBrian Simpson
  Yeah.
8. JRJoe Rogan
  It is indeed. Cheer, sir.
9. BSBrian Simpson
  Thank you.
10. JRJoe Rogan
  Merry Christmas. Happy New Year. All that good stuff. (bottles clinking) Yay. (drink slurping)
11. BSBrian Simpson
  You know why people-
12. JRJoe Rogan
  Ah.
13. BSBrian Simpson
  ... you know why people started doing that?
14. JRJoe Rogan
  Why? I don't know.
15. BSBrian Simpson
  Because during Prohibition, to n- to, it was a way to try to tell if you had bullshit alcohol 'cause if you banged it and it bubbled, then you knew it wasn't... It wasn't-
16. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh, really?
17. BSBrian Simpson
  Yeah, because people will sell bullshit alcohol.
0:39 – 3:21
Fentanyl crisis and the case for legalizing drugs to prevent contamination
1. JRJoe Rogan
  Isn't that funny? 'Cause that's exactly what's going on with the fentanyl overdoses. The reason why fentanyl is like rampant through this country is because people are getting the shit from Mexico, because heroin's illegal.
2. BSBrian Simpson
  Oh.
3. JRJoe Rogan
  So they're getting it from Mexico. They're getting the coke from Mexico and it's laced with fentanyl, and all that stuff is, is laced, and all that's... The reason why they do it, they cut it to make it stronger so they can have less cocaine, 'cause fentanyl's cheap. And that's why all these people are dying.
4. BSBrian Simpson
  Oh, so they can transport more?
5. JRJoe Rogan
  Yes.
6. BSBrian Simpson
  Oh.
7. JRJoe Rogan
  Do you know the number one cause of death between people 18 to 49 right now is fentanyl?
8. BSBrian Simpson
  That's crazy.
9. JRJoe Rogan
  100,000 people died last year from fentanyl.
10. BSBrian Simpson
  Damn.
11. JRJoe Rogan
  That's a real epidemic. That is a real epidemic.
12. BSBrian Simpson
  That's crazy.
13. JRJoe Rogan
  Yes, it's crazy. Way more than died from COVID with the same age class.
14. BSBrian Simpson
  Yeah, I, um, we, we recently had a bunch of comics pass 'cause from, from fentanyl.
15. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, that whole thing with Quigley and those-
16. BSBrian Simpson
  Right, right, right.
17. JRJoe Rogan
  ... three dudes he was hanging with.
18. BSBrian Simpson
  Right. Um, and then I remember seeing, you know, so I'm checking on my people that I know, you know, do a little bit of the powder. And I'm like, "Hey, man," you know? You... And, and, and a lot of people were like all like, "Ah, I'm, I've got to leave this shit alone. I got to leave this shit alone." I was like, "Why doesn't everybody just test?" (laughs)
19. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
20. BSBrian Simpson
  And he goes, "You can test it?" I was like, "Yeah, you can test it." He was like, "I could throw a party tonight." (laughs) You know? It's like he could just go get... I was like, man, you haven't learned shit.
21. JRJoe Rogan
  Dude, if heroin was legal, if cocaine was legal, you'd get it straight from the source. You'd get real cocaine that's not cut at all. It would be probably... I've, I've never done coke, but the way they describe it, it's like a much better experience, and then you don't have to worry about it, and then you know what you're doing.
22. BSBrian Simpson
  Yeah, I'm, I'm, I'm in the legalize everything camp, you know?
23. JRJoe Rogan
  Yes.
24. BSBrian Simpson
  But I, but I... We talked about it the last time I was here.
25. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
26. BSBrian Simpson
  I was like just legalize it all. Have it come... Have, have, have the FDA... (sighs)
27. JRJoe Rogan
  Exactly. The re- the, the s- it's scalable, right? It's like what would you do if it was just the three of us? Imagine if just the three of us were on an island and Jamie's like, uh, "Marijuana should be legal." And we were like, "What the fuck, Jamie?"
28. BSBrian Simpson
  (laughs)
29. JRJoe Rogan
  And Jamie wants to lock us up for marijuana. Like that would be crazy. We'd have to kill Jamie.
30. BSBrian Simpson
  Right.
3:21 – 6:09
Addiction, trauma, and environment: beyond “drugs are the problem”
1. BSBrian Simpson
  In fact they know... What, what, wasn't it the, um, where they, where they studied the people coming back from Vietnam and they were like-
2. JRJoe Rogan
  Yes.
3. BSBrian Simpson
  ... the people that did heroin over there would come back and the ones that had like loving, supportive environments and family, they stopped doing heroin.
4. JRJoe Rogan
  Yes. Yes.
5. BSBrian Simpson
  So it was like, I think that, you know... But it's hard to say that to somebody that like lost someone.
6. JRJoe Rogan
  Right.
7. BSBrian Simpson
  You know, but...
8. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, I've lost very good friends. One of my best friends in life died of a drug overdose. He died from pills. Uh, I think it... We... When... I'm not exactly sure, but I think he was on oxys. And this was, uh, in the early 2000s. It's, um, it's an epidemic. I mean, it's, it's terrible. But I feel like you should be able to make your own choices. Look, we're here drinking scotch. If, if I drank this bottle and you drank that bottle, we might both be dead. You know?
9. BSBrian Simpson
  Right.
10. JRJoe Rogan
  We drank a whole bottle of this stuff, we-
11. BSBrian Simpson
  Let's go to the hospital.
12. JRJoe Rogan
  ... well, you're gonna get fucked up. Or if we drank all the wood- liquor on that table, we just decided in an hour to drink all the liquor on the table, we'd be dead. 100%. But we're not gonna do that, right?
13. BSBrian Simpson
  Yeah.
14. JRJoe Rogan
  We're adults. And I think the same would be the case if people had access to real cocaine and real heroin. I'm not saying you should do cocaine and heroin. Look, I'm a fucking exercise fiend. I'm not thinking that you should just go and do drugs all the time. You shouldn't. But you're an adult. You should be able to make up-
15. BSBrian Simpson
  Yeah.
16. JRJoe Rogan
  ... your own choices. And no one... No other adult should be able to tell you what you can and can't do. All the things that you do that are illegal that people blame drugs on, like driving under the influence or like going crazy and murdering people, all that... We have laws already for those things.
17. BSBrian Simpson
  Right.
18. JRJoe Rogan
  You, you already can't do those things.
19. BSBrian Simpson
  Yup.
20. JRJoe Rogan
  The drug is not the problem. The problem is... Have you ever heard Gabor Mate talk about, uh, drugs and, and, and addiction?
21. BSBrian Simpson
  No, I don't know who that is.
22. JRJoe Rogan
  A very interesting guy. He's, uh, an expert on drugs and addiction and, and, uh, and the, the, all the, the real fallacies and dangers-
23. BSBrian Simpson
  What's his name? Gabor Mate?
24. JRJoe Rogan
  Gabor Mate. M-A-T-E. Um, but he say it all comes from trauma. I mean, all these people that are like severely addicted, all those people that you see that are homeless and that are just shooting up and smoking crack, those people were all sexually abused, physically abused, beaten. They've come from traumatic backgrounds.
25. BSBrian Simpson
  Mm-hmm.
26. JRJoe Rogan
  That's the problem. The problem is not the drugs.
27. BSBrian Simpson
  Yeah. Oh, they lost everything 'cause of... Yeah.
28. JRJoe Rogan
  Yes.
29. BSBrian Simpson
  It's the environment.
30. JRJoe Rogan
  Yes.
6:09 – 7:47
Meat, diet studies, and why nutrition research can be misleading
1. BSBrian Simpson
  You know, it, for, for the longest time in my life, I never thought about it, like, when you go to a restaurant over, and they, and they go, "This is a quarter pound of beef," or, "This is," you know, "This is a half-pound burger." And it's like, I never really put that together, like, oh, I'm putting, I'm putting a ha- I'm putting a half a pound of meat in my stomach.
2. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
3. BSBrian Simpson
  That's not good for you. (laughs)
4. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, it is.
5. BSBrian Simpson
  Is it?
6. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, yeah.
7. BSBrian Simpson
  It doesn't matter how it's cooked?
8. JRJoe Rogan
  Bro, people have been eating meat since the dawn of time. There is nothing wrong with meat. What's-
9. BSBrian Simpson
  Mm-hmm.
10. JRJoe Rogan
  ... wrong with people's diets is all the shit they eat with meat. That's why those-
11. BSBrian Simpson
  Oh.
12. JRJoe Rogan
  ... epidemiology studies are so flawed, because those, those studies are never done, they say, like, what, you know, an epidemiology study is like, they, they, they quiz a bunch of people. They give them a f- uh, a form to fill out, and they say, "How many times a week do you eat meat?" And then, they look for instances of cancer, instances of, uh, heart attacks, high blood pressure, and then they make a correlation. The problem with that is, they're not asking, "What are you doing with the meat? Are you eating cheeseburgers on a sugary bun with a bunch of fries dipped in fat? I- are you drinking it with a, a large Coca-Cola that's all sugar?" Like-
13. BSBrian Simpson
  Right.
14. JRJoe Rogan
  ... what is, what is your diet like? Are you smoking cigarettes? Are you doing this? Are you doing that? And then, you'd get a better baseline. If you saw- said to a person, "What are you eating?" And they say, "Well, I eat a 16-ounce grass-fed rib eye, and then I'll have some steamed broccoli or some sauteed spinach," look at those fucking people. They're healthy as shit.
15. BSBrian Simpson
  Yeah.
16. JRJoe Rogan
  If you're exercising and your body's not overweight and you're taking care of yourself, there's nothing wrong with meat.
17. BSBrian Simpson
  I, oh, I don't do any of those things.
18. JRJoe Rogan
  Ha!
19. BSBrian Simpson
  Damn it.
20. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
7:47 – 12:08
David Goggins discipline, Vegas wedding chaos, and “stay hard” motivation
1. BSBrian Simpson
  No, I gotta start, I got, I told, I was telling her, I was like, "I need to spend, like, a month at David Goggin's house." But-
2. JRJoe Rogan
  You don't wanna do that.
3. BSBrian Simpson
  No. (laughs) Yeah, he might fucking kill me. (laughs)
4. JRJoe Rogan
  You don't wanna do that. "Get up, son!
5. NANarrator
  (laughs)
6. JRJoe Rogan
  There's no tomorrow!"
7. BSBrian Simpson
  Have you ever, have you ever k- kicked it with, like, chilled with that dude in his-
8. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh, yeah.
9. BSBrian Simpson
  ... in his environment?
10. JRJoe Rogan
  Well, I never worked out with him, but I've hung out with him multiple... I just hung out with him a couple days ago in Vegas.
11. BSBrian Simpson
  Oh, okay, yeah.
12. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
13. BSBrian Simpson
  I saw he was on, he was on the other day.
14. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
15. BSBrian Simpson
  Yeah.
16. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah. Oh, that's right. I did go to Vegas, Jimmy, but I only went for a, an, about four hours.
17. NANarrator
  (laughs)
18. JRJoe Rogan
  This is what happened. Went to Andrew Schulz's wedding, and then-
19. BSBrian Simpson
  Oh, wow.
20. JRJoe Rogan
  ... Whitney Cummings said, "I gotta leave at 6:45. I'm gonna do a set in Vegas, and then I'm gonna fly back tonight at 10 o'clock." And I go, "Really?" And so, uh, it was me, Lex Fridman, my wife, and Whitney, and we said, "Fuck it, let's go." So we went, and, uh, Whitney did a, uh, private party at this lady's house with Dana Carvey.
21. NANarrator
  (laughs)
22. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, some rich lady. And, uh, so we do this, we do the gig, and then, uh, we go back. She had, she had g- they had gotten her a private jet. We go back, and the private jet was broken.
23. BSBrian Simpson
  (laughs)
24. JRJoe Rogan
  No pilot, no one to get back. So we wound up taking a fucking car.
25. NANarrator
  (laughs)
26. JRJoe Rogan
  We had to get a car service to drive us back.
27. BSBrian Simpson
  To LA?
28. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, from Vegas to LA. We got back at 5:30 in the morning.
29. NANarrator
  Oh.
30. JRJoe Rogan
  But in the meantime, we hung out at the, uh, we hung out at the m- the, um, what's the, the Wynn for a little bit and, uh, hung out with David.
12:08 – 15:09
Workplace incentives, the Peter Principle, and designing jobs like video games
1. BSBrian Simpson
  I was just reading about, um, the p- The Peter Principle. Have you heard of this?
2. JRJoe Rogan
  No.
3. BSBrian Simpson
  Where it's like, the, the people at companies...... that do the best work get stuck with more work. And so the-
4. JRJoe Rogan
  Hmm.
5. BSBrian Simpson
  ... the people, the people that are left g- get promoted.
6. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
7. BSBrian Simpson
  And so you, so you, it, you end up with, like, this-
8. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh.
9. BSBrian Simpson
  ... diluted middle management that's ... It's like, that's why p- people are miserable at their jobs. It's because your boss is almost always going to be someone that isn't better than you.
10. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
11. BSBrian Simpson
  Yeah.
12. JRJoe Rogan
  I think it's also su- it's probably super hard to find a company to work for where everybody's friendly and everybody's just having a good time-
13. BSBrian Simpson
  Yep.
14. JRJoe Rogan
  ... enjoying life.
15. BSBrian Simpson
  I interviewed this guy the other day that, uh, that he ... So, so I wa- I was doing this thing for, for Netflix, the, their, um, it's called My Favorite Things. So they, they, they let you take over the thing and then they find you people. So my favorite thing was gaming, right? And they, they found me. I did it with Eric Griffin and all this. And, but then-
16. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh, no. (laughs)
17. BSBrian Simpson
  ... but then, but then they went and found me two, um, like, professors of gaming. So one, one of them, one of them, I fucking can't remember her name right now. But, but, but the guy, he was the professor of, um, he was a psychiatric, a psychologist, and he, he specialized in, like, g- the, the mentality of gamers online. And his whole thing is that, is how workplaces should be set up more like, like games. Like, the way they develop games, the way they, they market them towards the people.
18. JRJoe Rogan
  Hmm.
19. BSBrian Simpson
  The, the reward pattern and all that should be-
20. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh, I see.
21. BSBrian Simpson
  ... to avoid the Peter Principle, right? So it's like ... And, and, and the, the lady, she was the professor of, like, informatics that focused on gamers. And her whole family games. She games with her kids, she games with her husband. And she, and we were just talking about how, like, it, it changes the bond. Like, it, it ma- it, it's a bonding thing with your kids.
22. JRJoe Rogan
  Hmm.
23. BSBrian Simpson
  It's, it's a trust-building thing with your husband, you know what I'm saying? When it's like-
24. JRJoe Rogan
  Right. So you have a team effort to go accomplish missions and shit.
25. BSBrian Simpson
  Yeah, like they were fucking playing Diablo on nightmare.
26. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
27. BSBrian Simpson
  They're family. You know what I'm saying? Like, you get one life.
28. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
29. BSBrian Simpson
  (laughs) You, you, you imagine that?
30. JRJoe Rogan
  That's hard.
15:09 – 20:42
Esports respect, talent vs. delusion, and comedy’s brutal odds
1. BSBrian Simpson
  It's ... This is, this is another thing. I was, um, I was telling fucking Santino this, the, but I remember being at the Comedy Store and I was in the back watching the Overwatch playoffs on my, on my phone. And p- and then com- you know, comics catch you doing something nerdy, they start giving you shit like they haven't been nerds-
2. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
3. BSBrian Simpson
  ... their whole life. And people were giving me shit about it, like, "What are you doing?" I'm like, "This is the playoffs." They're like, "What?"
4. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
5. BSBrian Simpson
  And it, and it's, it's like they, they look down on it because, you know, how, how amazed you are by something is about how far away you see yourself from being able to do it.
6. JRJoe Rogan
  What's interesting too is if you were watching, like, the World Chess Championship, they'd be like, "Oh, Bryan's smart as fuck."
7. BSBrian Simpson
  Oh, right. Well, I watch that too.
8. JRJoe Rogan
  Right, but you know what I mean? Like, there's games-
9. BSBrian Simpson
  Yep.
10. JRJoe Rogan
  ... that are acceptable.
11. BSBrian Simpson
  Right, but not that. Not-
12. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, you could even watch, like, tennis, right?
13. BSBrian Simpson
  Tennis.
14. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
15. BSBrian Simpson
  Anything, anything that people don't think they could do, right?
16. JRJoe Rogan
  Right.
17. BSBrian Simpson
  But, but people see you, people see people playing a game and go, "Well, I play games." But it's like, no, that, this motherfucker is so much better than you at ... He is as, he is as much better than you at games as Michael Jordan is better than you at basketball.
18. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
19. BSBrian Simpson
  Yeah, and you, and you ... It's hard for you to accept 'cause he's 13 years old.
20. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
21. BSBrian Simpson
  You know what I'm saying? And you can't-
22. JRJoe Rogan
  Right.
23. BSBrian Simpson
  ... wrap your head around the fact that he'll whoop your ass at every game you on.
24. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, that's true.
25. BSBrian Simpson
  Yeah, these kids ain't ... They, they, like, the, the high level ... 'Cause a lotta times the, the kids, the people that are winning these tournaments and stuff, they're good at everything. They, they'll, they'll win a tournament in another game too. Or they'll get-
26. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
27. BSBrian Simpson
  They get recruited, they get bought from other people, from other teams. It's, it's serious business. They're making millions of dollars.
28. JRJoe Rogan
  There's real money in it now. But we were kids, you were told that playing video games was a waste of time. That mentality's still stuck in our head.
29. BSBrian Simpson
  Right. You cost me millions, grandma.
30. JRJoe Rogan
  Ah! But it still, for a lot of people, it is a waste of time.
20:42 – 25:33
Sociopaths, “NPCs,” and activism as cover for narcissism
1. JRJoe Rogan
  It's crazy people. I don't know, man. You know, it's like, like what makes a p- I mean, it's... You, you know, you know the concept of an NPC? You know, non-player character? There's a lot of people out there that literally are that. They're real.
2. BSBrian Simpson
  Yeah.
3. JRJoe Rogan
  Like, it's a horrible thing to say-
4. BSBrian Simpson
  Yeah.
5. JRJoe Rogan
  ... that they're inconsequential humans, but there are people that for whatever reason, they never connect with people. Then all the friendships they have are very surface level. They never have real love. They never-
6. BSBrian Simpson
  Yeah.
7. JRJoe Rogan
  They really care about people. They're always just weird fucks.
8. BSBrian Simpson
  Well, 'cause they're psychopaths. I, I was-
9. JRJoe Rogan
  Right.
10. BSBrian Simpson
  I was just listening to something the other day about how we... You know, there, there's a list that came out maybe five, six years ago, and it was like the top 10 professions that psychopaths go to and like... One of them was like CEO, surgeon, and the... And then, and people always forget about the other seven. You know, it's like there are psychopaths all around you. There's a bus driver that's, that, that he doesn't feel or-
11. JRJoe Rogan
  Right.
12. BSBrian Simpson
  ... pro- the same-
13. JRJoe Rogan
  Is that a sociopath or psychopath?
14. BSBrian Simpson
  Oh, that's, that's what I meant. Sociopath.
15. JRJoe Rogan
  Are they... They're real similar though. It's, uh, it's, uh, the distinction between sociopath and psychopa- What is the distinction? Because someone was explaining it to me once that there's not much difference between a sociopath and a psychopath.
16. BSBrian Simpson
  Can, can you help us with that?
17. JRJoe Rogan
  Maybe a psychopath acts maliciously against people, whereas a sociopath doesn't feel anything.
18. BSBrian Simpson
  I, I think that they, I think that they've slowly started to conflate the two.
19. JRJoe Rogan
  Mm-hmm.
20. BSBrian Simpson
  You know, and maybe in the, in the... What the, what is that book of... That has all the mental health shit in it? The MS... You know what I'm talking about?
21. JRJoe Rogan
  No.
22. BSBrian Simpson
  But, but, but there's a book that had, like, defines everything. Maybe it's called the DSR.
23. JRJoe Rogan
  Okay. Okay, how sociopaths are different from psychopaths. Both are a form of antisocial, antisocial personality disorder. Sociopath is a term people use often arbitrarily to describe someone who's apparently without conscience. In most cases, a description blithely tossed about to label a person as being either hateful or hate-worthy. The same applies to the term psychopath, to which many people suggest a sociopath who is simply more dangerous, like a mass murderer. While the characteristics of sociopathy and psychoopathy may overlap, sociopathy is an unofficial term for an antisocial personality disorder. Psycho- psychopathy is not an official diagnosis and it's not considered APD.
24. BSBrian Simpson
  Mm-hmm.
25. JRJoe Rogan
  Antisocial personality disorder. Uh, term sociopath and psychopath are often used interchangeably. Each has its own clear lines of distinction that could be broadly described. And what are the, what is the clear lines of distinction?
26. BSBrian Simpson
  Yeah, that didn't help. (laughs) Oh, okay, here we go.
27. JRJoe Rogan
  The difference. Okay, sociopath makes it clear, uh, they do not care how others feel. Psychopaths pretend to care. Oh. Psychopaths display cold-hearted behavior. Sociopaths behave in hot-headed and impulsive ways. Uh, sociopath prone to fits of anger and rage. Psychopaths fail to recognize other people's distress. Psychopaths have relationships that are shallow and fake. Sociopaths recognize they are doing, but rationalize their behavior. Psychopaths maintain a normal life as a cover for criminal activity.So, ps- psychopath sounds like a serial killer-
28. BSBrian Simpson
  Yeah.
29. JRJoe Rogan
  ... a sociopath sounds like a comic. (laughs)
30. BSBrian Simpson
  Am I the only one, am I the only one that was just thinking, "I think I fucked a few psychopaths."
25:33 – 28:39
COVID trust collapse, JFK secrecy, and why conspiracies thrive
1. JRJoe Rogan
  You get... That's a natural inclination to human beings, to force people to do things and to make people behave a certain way or speak a certain way or do certain things that they want you to do. You see, you're seeing that a lot in today's culture with this vaccinated versus unvaccinated argument, that there's a lot of people that, you know, want unvaccinated people to be refused medical care and that... be ostracized from society. And even though as time's going on we're realizing that even vaccinated people are catching COVID and spreading it, particularly with this new version of it, which I keep hearing is a good thing. I keep hearing this Omicron. I've talked to a doctor and he was explaining that this is essentially like a live vaccine. He goes, "This is ... It's not good to catch." He goes, "But," he goes, "It's way better than any strain of COVID we've ever seen before." There's no deaths so far registered in America except one guy that's in Texas that had a, a bunch of health conditions and they're not even saying now that it was COVID that killed him.
2. BSBrian Simpson
  They're saying he had it when he died.
3. JRJoe Rogan
  They're now, they're now saying he had it when he died.
4. BSBrian Simpson
  Right.
5. JRJoe Rogan
  Which is, this guy was fucked up. They're not, they're not personally ... But when they say that publicly, that, that's a clear indication that there's something really wrong with this guy. They're not saying what it was, but I'm assuming if it's the only guy that's died in this whole fucking month and a half period that this shit's been spreading through this country.
6. BSBrian Simpson
  Yeah. Well, y- you know, I think that all of that is just a symptom. The problem is people don't trust the government. They don't trust the media because they always fucking lying.
7. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, you shouldn't trust the government-
8. BSBrian Simpson
  Because I-
9. JRJoe Rogan
  ... or the media.
10. BSBrian Simpson
  Because I remember ... I don't know if it was the, you know, when I was a, when I was a kid but it was, but it would be like, "Oh, if the president came on TV and said some shit, you believed the shit."
11. JRJoe Rogan
  Right. 100%.
12. BSBrian Simpson
  But, but it's like once we started finding out, oh, these motherfuckers lie about everything. Now-
13. JRJoe Rogan
  Once, once Clinton started lying about blow jobs-
14. BSBrian Simpson
  (laughs)
15. JRJoe Rogan
  ... everybody was like, "What?"
16. BSBrian Simpson
  Well, that, yeah, that did. I mean, well-
17. JRJoe Rogan
  That started it.
18. BSBrian Simpson
  Nixon was the chip.
19. JRJoe Rogan
  Oh, yeah.
20. BSBrian Simpson
  In the, in the ... Well, actually Kennedy, Kennedy was the, was the first crack because people started, you know, they ... when they covered up all the paperwork and they st- ... This is what's so funny. They still keep pushing that shit down the line.
21. JRJoe Rogan
  I know. Wow.
22. BSBrian Simpson
  Every president, no, no matter which side you on, every Republican president, every Democratic president since, every time the- those papers supposed to come out, they fucking cover the shit up.
23. JRJoe Rogan
  It's wild, isn't it? Like what is in those-
24. BSBrian Simpson
  Yeah.
25. JRJoe Rogan
  ... papers?
26. BSBrian Simpson
  Because there was a time where I thought that the James Webb Telescope ... I thought the Kennedy shit would come out before the depth- telescope was ready.
27. JRJoe Rogan
  (laughs)
28. BSBrian Simpson
  Because they've been ... I, I'm a, I'm a nerd with that kind of shit and it was like I've been waiting on this telescope for a minute.
29. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah.
30. BSBrian Simpson
  And every time I was like, "Well, I'll find out who killed Kennedy before that." I don't think that's true. That-
28:39 – 36:06
Cigarettes, quitting (or not), and the gruesome reality of lung damage
1. BSBrian Simpson
  Because even if people involved are still alive ... Can I smoke a cigarette in here?
2. JRJoe Rogan
  Mm-hmm.
3. BSBrian Simpson
  The p- the people that, uh ... I'm quitting when the special come out, ma.
4. JRJoe Rogan
  Do you want a, um, cigar?
5. BSBrian Simpson
  No. No.
6. JRJoe Rogan
  No?
7. BSBrian Simpson
  Last time I did that shit it fucked me up.
8. JRJoe Rogan
  Cigars fucked you up? How c- how so?
9. BSBrian Simpson
  It just made my shit all dry.
10. JRJoe Rogan
  You let-
11. BSBrian Simpson
  I mean, this, this ain't healthy but I'm, I'm an addict.
12. JRJoe Rogan
  It's definitely not healthy.
13. BSBrian Simpson
  I'm just making excuses I'm an addict.
14. JRJoe Rogan
  How often do you smoke them?
15. BSBrian Simpson
  Cigarettes?
16. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah. Goddamn.
17. BSBrian Simpson
  Uh, well probably ... You know it's, it, it changes when I'm doing comedy.
18. JRJoe Rogan
  Really?
19. BSBrian Simpson
  Or when I'm, when I'm performing.
20. JRJoe Rogan
  You per- you smoke more?
21. BSBrian Simpson
  Yeah.
22. JRJoe Rogan
  Interesting.
23. BSBrian Simpson
  I smoke more when I'm at The Comedy Store and shit.
24. JRJoe Rogan
  Mm-hmm. 'Cause other- everybody else is doing it? It's social?
25. BSBrian Simpson
  No, no one else does it.
26. JRJoe Rogan
  No one?
27. BSBrian Simpson
  Very few.
28. JRJoe Rogan
  Kind of bullshit ass community.
29. BSBrian Simpson
  Like most people ... Like, man it was... It's just the era of the healthy comic.
30. JRJoe Rogan
  Ah, those motherfuckers.
36:06 – 46:52
Nicotine as nootropic, Alpha Brain pitch, and pharma side effects (Accutane & SSRIs)
1. JRJoe Rogan
  You know what's interesting? Like, nicotine is actually a medicine. Nicotine itself, um, I think it's got heart, uh, applications. See, like, nicotine for heart. Nicotine, it's also-
2. BSBrian Simpson
  Like, they, they use it to treat shit?
3. JRJoe Rogan
  Nicotine by itself is not bad, which sounds so crazy. And it's also, um, a nootropic, meaning, like, uh, it stimulates cognitive function. Like, nicotine does stimulate. It's one of the things Stephen King said in his book, uh, On Writing, is that quitting cigarettes w- was very hard for him because it was like his writing suffered a little bit.
4. BSBrian Simpson
  Wow.
5. JRJoe Rogan
  It was harder for him to write.
6. BSBrian Simpson
  Oh, dude. Hmm.
7. JRJoe Rogan
  Because it's something about the cigarette that, like, it fires up the synapses, it fires up the brain, and then th- the writing would come smoother.
8. BSBrian Simpson
  Yeah, I don't know, I don't know because I've, I've smoked all the time I've been doing comedy and writing.
9. JRJoe Rogan
  Hmm, yeah.
10. BSBrian Simpson
  So, I mean, that would be, that would be like torture. Like, if I couldn't... if the ideas came to me less.
11. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, I think that's what, what he was saying. But I think you can, you could probably get around that with other stuff that's good for you, like Alpha Brain and, you know, there's a bunch of different nootropics. You can take that gum that you were chewing on earlier. That's-
12. BSBrian Simpson
  You got some Alpha Brain in here?
13. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah, it's right here. I got... This is the new shit. This is the Alpha Brain Black Label. It's the strongest version of Alpha Brain we've ever made. That shit's the bomb diggity.
14. BSBrian Simpson
  Can you get me some of this shit?
15. JRJoe Rogan
  Fuck yeah. I'll give you a bottle. You can take that.
16. BSBrian Simpson
  Hell yeah.
17. JRJoe Rogan
  I'll get you a fresh one.
18. BSBrian Simpson
  Okay.
19. JRJoe Rogan
  That, that one's-
20. BSBrian Simpson
  On it.
21. JRJoe Rogan
  ... half empty. Um-
22. BSBrian Simpson
  (laughs) Hey, don't wanna be, I wanna be the guinea pig. I wanna come back 'cause this is, um, this is my last day.
23. JRJoe Rogan
  Okay. Well, this stuff is very good. That stuff I take before any UFC, anytime, like if I'm doing a podcast with a scientist, I take those. Like, sometimes you'll see in the beginning of a podcast, I'm like, "Oh, Jesus."
24. BSBrian Simpson
  (laughs)
25. JRJoe Rogan
  I'll throw six pills down throat, and I would think they're probably like, "What, what the fuck is he doing?"
26. BSBrian Simpson
  What if y- or you do a podcast with like, with like, a liar, you know? Like, when you had that Gupta guy on here?
27. JRJoe Rogan
  (sighs) He, I don't think he's a liar. He's just-
28. BSBrian Simpson
  He's not a liar. He's the, he's the face of ...
29. JRJoe Rogan
  He's the face of medicine in his eyes, you know? He's, uh, he's a neurosurgeon is what he is, you know? He's, he's a good guy. I like Sanjay a lot. I really do. He's just... He's in the system, you know? And the system doesn't tolerate any dissent or it doesn't, it doesn't tolerate anybody crossing lines and looking at things objectively or even taking a chance and, like, looking at something that may or may not be-
30. BSBrian Simpson
  But why?
46:52 – 51:05
Transplants, “memory” in the body, and the gut as a ‘second brain’
1. BSBrian Simpson
  Oh, wait a minute. You're talking about Superman?
2. JRJoe Rogan
  CT Fletcher.
3. BSBrian Simpson
  Yeah.
4. JRJoe Rogan
  Yes. Love him to death.
5. BSBrian Simpson
  Yeah, he's...
6. JRJoe Rogan
  He's amazing.
7. BSBrian Simpson
  He was my, he was my David Goggins before I knew who David Goggins was.
8. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah. He, well, he's, uh, super, super motivational and, you know-
9. BSBrian Simpson
  He's so motherfucking set.
10. JRJoe Rogan
  And he's d- become a different person, uh, post-heart attack and post uh, h- transplant. He's like, like is really... Is, he still doesn't take any bullshit nor excuses, but he's much more like loving and open, and he realizes he has this new gift of life and this new take on life. And also, he thinks he's got a woman's heart when... He knows it's a woman, but he thinks it's an Asian woman, and he's not-
11. BSBrian Simpson
  (laughs)
12. JRJoe Rogan
  I don't think they tell you that, but like, he's like got feelings that he... 'Cause the, the, the heart has neurons in it, you know? And they think-
13. BSBrian Simpson
  Oh.
14. JRJoe Rogan
  They don't know where memories are exactly stored. You know?
15. BSBrian Simpson
  Oh, there's some leftover, um... What are the cells that recover everything? Um...
16. JRJoe Rogan
  I don't know. I think it's neurons. I think-
17. BSBrian Simpson
  No, the shit, the shit they use... They take from like fetus, from, uh, stem cells.
18. JRJoe Rogan
  Stem cells?
19. BSBrian Simpson
  Yeah, it could be like some, some r- some residual stem cells, like shooting through your body or something.
20. JRJoe Rogan
  I don't... Yeah, I don't know if your, your m- body contains memories in other things. Like...
21. BSBrian Simpson
  It does.
22. JRJoe Rogan
  I don't know.
23. BSBrian Simpson
  It's called...
24. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah?
25. BSBrian Simpson
  No, th- no, they know it does.
26. JRJoe Rogan
  They do?
27. BSBrian Simpson
  It's called, um-
28. NANarrator
  God damn. I didn't see, I y- I didn't take my Onnit.
29. JRJoe Rogan
  Ah.
30. NANarrator
  Um, it's a, but it's called, it's, it, there, it, because they, they've, they've figured out that there's something left in your DNA from the trauma of your grandparents and your parents.
51:05 – 1:23:01
MMA greatness: jiu-jitsu legends, Oliveira vs. Khabib fantasies, and iconic upsets
1. JRJoe Rogan
  And I don't think it's just that it's kindness in that you're not killing an animal. I think there's probably also kindness in that you're eating only plants, so your brain doesn't think it needs to think in a more vicious way. I think there's probably something to eating meat. Like, Rickson Gracie used to say that a lot.
2. NANarrator
  Who are they?
3. JRJoe Rogan
  The, Rickson Gracie is, uh, the greatest jujitsu fighter of all time. He's, like, the legendary patriarch of the, the Gracie clan. He's the, he was the head dog. He was the-
4. NANarrator
  Oh, okay.
5. JRJoe Rogan
  He was the guy, like, back in the day-
6. NANarrator
  But he's not the most famous 'cause that's not the name I always-
7. JRJoe Rogan
  But Royce, Royce is his brother.
8. NANarrator
  ... saw him fight, right.
9. JRJoe Rogan
  And Royce was the, the guy who won the first Ultimate Fighting Championship and a bunch of other ones. Um, Royce will tell you, he tells everybody that Rickson's 100 times better than him. Rickson was w- widely regarded as the man. I mean, it ... Like, there's not a lot of agreement in jujitsu because you're dealing with psh- thousands of black belts, right? Thousands-
10. NANarrator
  Oh, yeah.
11. JRJoe Rogan
  ... of killers. And there's guys at the elite, elite level and it's, they're kinda interchangeable. You know, if you say, like, "Who would win if it was Saul Ribeiro, or this guy, or if it was R- Rafael Lovato or that guy?" Like, these, there's this level of jujitsu where everybody's an assassin.
12. NANarrator
  Right, right.
13. JRJoe Rogan
  But Rickson was the assassin of the assassins.
14. NANarrator
  Okay, I like that.
15. JRJoe Rogan
  They, Rickson used to, they used to do these seminars. So, Rickson would teach these seminars and they would line up black belts, line 'em up, like, ten world-class black belts, and Rickson would tap 'em one after the other with no break. Tap 'em one after the other. And he wasn't doing anything that, like, was physically overpowering them. He wasn't, like, bigger than them. He wasn't unbelievably fast. It wasn't ... He was all those things. I mean, he was, like, an elite athlete like they all were, but it wasn't that. It was his mind and his understanding of jujitsu was superior to everyone else's. His, he had, like, innate talent, but he also had crazy dedication and discipline. And he had an understanding of jujitsu that was off the charts.
16. NANarrator
  That's crazy. You know who I've been following recently?
17. JRJoe Rogan
  Who?
18. NANarrator
  Have you heard of this kid? Um, Mikey Musumeci?
19. JRJoe Rogan
  Musumeci, yeah. Oh, my God. He's an assassin.
20. NANarrator
  This f- this fucking kid, man.
21. JRJoe Rogan
  He's an assassin.
22. NANarrator
  He's as- and he's li- he's likable.
23. JRJoe Rogan
  Yes.
24. NANarrator
  Like a, like a Nunez almost, but, like-
25. JRJoe Rogan
  He's a sweetheart, yeah.
26. NANarrator
  But this bo- this k- this ... I just wa- I watch everything he does.
27. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah. I think M- Musumeci is how you say it.
28. NANarrator
  Musumeci.
29. JRJoe Rogan
  Yeah. He's, uh, I've seen him, uh, live a couple of times. Uh, they do this thing in Austin. They were doing it once a month. It's called Who's Number One. It's these professional jujitsu matches that they'd have in Austin that they'd stream on FloCombat or FloGrappling. FloGrappling.com.
30. NANarrator
  Yeah, that's do- that's what I watching on FloGrappling, yeah.

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Holiday catch-up to Prohibition-era drinking lore (and why people clink bottles)

Fentanyl crisis and the case for legalizing drugs to prevent contamination

Addiction, trauma, and environment: beyond “drugs are the problem”

Meat, diet studies, and why nutrition research can be misleading

David Goggins discipline, Vegas wedding chaos, and “stay hard” motivation

Workplace incentives, the Peter Principle, and designing jobs like video games

Esports respect, talent vs. delusion, and comedy’s brutal odds

Sociopaths, “NPCs,” and activism as cover for narcissism

COVID trust collapse, JFK secrecy, and why conspiracies thrive

Cigarettes, quitting (or not), and the gruesome reality of lung damage

Nicotine as nootropic, Alpha Brain pitch, and pharma side effects (Accutane & SSRIs)

Transplants, “memory” in the body, and the gut as a ‘second brain’

MMA greatness: jiu-jitsu legends, Oliveira vs. Khabib fantasies, and iconic upsets

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