Joe Rogan Experience #1754 - Suzanne Santo

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   (drumming) Joe Rogan podcast,…

   1. SSSuzanne Santo0:00

      (drumming) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

   2. The Joe Rogan Experience.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (rock music) So-

   4. SSSuzanne Santo0:13

      (laughs)

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:13

      Jayme's cool. So-

   6. SSSuzanne Santo0:15

      Cheers. (laughs)

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:15

      Cheers, my friend. So good to see you.

   8. SSSuzanne Santo0:17

      You too. (laughs)

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:18

      Mm. These are the wildest of times.

   10. SSSuzanne Santo0:21

       Oh my God. (sighs)

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:23

       The wildest, right?

   12. SSSuzanne Santo0:24

       Ah, I have no words for it. I, every day.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:26

       No one does. It, the, and your words change-

   14. SSSuzanne Santo0:29

       Mm-hmm.

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:29

       And, you know, you see a lot of people that are trying to, uh, say things because they want to assure themselves.

   16. SSSuzanne Santo0:36

       Mm.

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:36

       And then they wanna find other people that agree with them.

   18. SSSuzanne Santo0:38

       Mm-hmm.

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:38

       That's why, like, Twitter is such a dangerous thing-

   20. SSSuzanne Santo0:40

       Oh, forget it.

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:40

       ... for people who are mentally unstable during these trying times.

   22. SSSuzanne Santo0:43

       I, you watch people lose their minds.

   23. JRJoe Rogan0:45

       Yeah.

   24. SSSuzanne Santo0:45

       Well, it's a form of escapism.

   25. JRJoe Rogan0:47

       It is, but it's also, um, they're, they're trying to find some stability in, in a time where there is no stability. And there's some people that are very uncomfortable with, uh, the unknown. They're very uncomfortable with things being, like, in a state of flux.

   26. SSSuzanne Santo1:02

       Mm-hmm.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:02

       They don't, they don't know how this is gonna work out.

   28. SSSuzanne Santo1:04

       Mm-hmm.

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:04

       And they get serious anxiety. You know, 'cause some people, they just, they're just not good under pressure.

   30. SSSuzanne Santo1:10

       Correct.
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   (laughs) …

   1. SSSuzanne Santo15:00

   2. JRJoe Rogan15:00

      (laughs)

   3. SSSuzanne Santo15:00

      And, um, and I just, like, I have to, like, prepare myself and know, like, this is the day, and then tomorrow you're, you know, back at it. But, uh, it's... Yeah, I feel you. I felt like... I had a headache on Christmas-

   4. JRJoe Rogan15:13

      (laughs)

   5. SSSuzanne Santo15:13

      ... 'cause I ate so many cookies. And, um, yeah, no, I was just like...

   6. JRJoe Rogan15:18

      It's poison.

   7. SSSuzanne Santo15:19

      You know?

   8. JRJoe Rogan15:19

      It's poison.

   9. SSSuzanne Santo15:20

      I know, I know.

   10. JRJoe Rogan15:21

       Your body's like, "What the fuck is this?"

   11. SSSuzanne Santo15:23

       But they were so good. (laughs)

   12. JRJoe Rogan15:24

       Isn't it funny that we've created something that almost everybody loves that's terrible for you?

   13. SSSuzanne Santo15:28

       Hmm, yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan15:29

       Like a cookie.

   15. SSSuzanne Santo15:30

       Sugar.

   16. JRJoe Rogan15:30

       Like one of them giant ones.

   17. SSSuzanne Santo15:31

       Yeah, yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan15:32

       Oh my God, but they're so good.

   19. SSSuzanne Santo15:33

       Yeah. Well, it's funny, like, cultures are, are, you know, wrapped around food in this way that's really interesting. Like, you know, you go to the South or, like, you know, New Orleans, you get beignets and stuff like that.

   20. JRJoe Rogan15:44

       Yeah.

   21. SSSuzanne Santo15:44

       Like, they, you, like, you have to get a doughnut, and you're over here.

   22. JRJoe Rogan15:46

       Got to get barbecue. We're in Austin.

   23. SSSuzanne Santo15:48

       And... Yeah, yeah. And, like, that shit fucks me up, man.

   24. JRJoe Rogan15:50

       (laughs)

   25. SSSuzanne Santo15:50

       Like, I, I love it, but I'm, I have a super sensitive stomach. And, um, you know, it's interesting how you have these obligations sometimes.

   26. JRJoe Rogan15:59

       Yeah.

   27. SSSuzanne Santo15:59

       In that way, whereas, like, you know, no one's putting a gun to your head. (laughs)

   28. JRJoe Rogan16:03

       No, but if you want pizza and it's right there, you want that pizza.

   29. SSSuzanne Santo16:06

       Right.

   30. JRJoe Rogan16:06

       Did you see the video that I put on my Instagram?
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   Oh my God. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan30:00

      guy had grabbed her and, and put her in his fucking basement. I think-

   2. SSSuzanne Santo30:04

      Oh my God.

   3. JRJoe Rogan30:04

      ... she was gone for a couple days.

   4. SSSuzanne Santo30:07

      You know, I-

   5. JRJoe Rogan30:07

      What is the, what is the story? What is the, um...

   6. SSSuzanne Santo30:12

      I think the world is different. I mean, in-

   7. JRJoe Rogan30:14

      Look at this. Missing Utah college student found alive and covered in coal in man's basement. Utah college student was found nearly 90 miles from campus in the home of a man who has been charged with kidnapping and rape, police said. Holy fucking shit.

   8. SSSuzanne Santo30:30

      How long was she there? Did it say? Well, you know-

   9. JRJoe Rogan30:34

      Five day manhunt for missing 19-year-old college student concluded with police finding her alive after a harrowing ordeal. A Utah man is now in custody. Holy shit.

   10. SSSuzanne Santo30:45

       I mean-

   11. JRJoe Rogan30:45

       She was found naked and covered in coal in a coal storage area of a home in Loa, Utah on December 18th.Oh my god.

   12. SSSuzanne Santo30:55

       You remember, um, (tongue clicks) the girls in Cleveland. I mean, not to keep this ... This is pretty dark. We're having a dark conversation here, but I was home when they were found.

   13. JRJoe Rogan31:02

       Right, there was like 10 girls in a-

   14. SSSuzanne Santo31:04

       Th- thr- three girls.

   15. JRJoe Rogan31:04

       Three girls? I made it up. I made up the extra six.

   16. SSSuzanne Santo31:05

       They were ... The one girl had been there for, I believe, I believe, 13 years, but the two were there for 10.

   17. JRJoe Rogan31:11

       Oh my god.

   18. SSSuzanne Santo31:12

       And, um, like, but (clicks tongue) it ... I mean, it's, it's crazy. I was home when they were discovered.

   19. JRJoe Rogan31:18

       Oh my god.

   20. SSSuzanne Santo31:18

       It was insane. It was-

   21. JRJoe Rogan31:21

       Three women missing for a decade. Why did I think it was 10?

   22. SSSuzanne Santo31:25

       And a six-year-old.

   23. And a six-year-old? Yeah, because one of the girls-

   24. JRJoe Rogan31:26

       Wasn't that one a child, a chil-

   25. SSSuzanne Santo31:28

       ... had a child.

   26. JRJoe Rogan31:29

       Ugh, and he kept the baby with the, the women in the cage?

   27. SSSuzanne Santo31:33

       Mm-hmm.

   28. JRJoe Rogan31:34

       Holy fuck.

   29. SSSuzanne Santo31:35

       Yeah. So I guess-

   30. JRJoe Rogan31:38

       Oh my god.
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   Right. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan45:00

      for that.

   2. SSSuzanne Santo45:00

      Right.

   3. JRJoe Rogan45:01

      It's not healthy.

   4. SSSuzanne Santo45:02

      Well-

   5. JRJoe Rogan45:02

      So it's not bad to post something, but it is bad to read all the things that various random people think about the posting, because you can get s- you don't have that much time.

   6. SSSuzanne Santo45:12

      Mm.

   7. JRJoe Rogan45:12

      Every single thing that a person says to you, you at least have to consider. You can say, "Oh, that person's a moron. I don't think they're correct." Or, "Maybe that person's smarter than me. Maybe I should consider what they're saying."

   8. SSSuzanne Santo45:23

      Mm-hmm.

   9. JRJoe Rogan45:23

      But when it's just random assholes and you don't know anything about them-

   10. SSSuzanne Santo45:27

       Right.

   11. JRJoe Rogan45:27

       ... and they're saying mean stuff to you because you're posting you got engaged to your fiance, like-

   12. SSSuzanne Santo45:31

       Mm-hmm.

   13. JRJoe Rogan45:32

       ... why?

   14. SSSuzanne Santo45:32

       Well, I think, hmm, I think we're talking about a lot of things. Um-

   15. JRJoe Rogan45:36

       We're talking about a lot of things.

   16. SSSuzanne Santo45:37

       I know. (laughs)

   17. JRJoe Rogan45:38

       That's that Snoop Dogg weed.

   18. SSSuzanne Santo45:40

       Woo!

   19. JRJoe Rogan45:40

       Woo!

   20. SSSuzanne Santo45:41

       (laughs) I haven't smoked it yet and I think I'm gonna wait because I'm scared, but-

   21. JRJoe Rogan45:46

       Well, it's, it's also Buffalo Trace.

   22. SSSuzanne Santo45:48

       Oh, yeah, it's so good.

   23. JRJoe Rogan45:49

       It's good stuff.

   24. SSSuzanne Santo45:49

       I'll take a little more of that by the way.

   25. JRJoe Rogan45:50

       I, I know you would. I know you would. It's gonna be one of those shows.

   26. SSSuzanne Santo45:53

       Well, I don't want to knock on anyone that shares their feelings on social media, 'cause I've done it too.

   27. JRJoe Rogan45:57

       No, there's nothing wrong with it.

   28. SSSuzanne Santo45:58

       I think it's, I think it's the matter of, the manner in which, um, you're projecting yourself onto a public platform. Sometimes, um, it feels, uh, sometimes it doesn't feel genuine, you know, as a, as a reader.

   29. JRJoe Rogan46:15

       Right.

   30. SSSuzanne Santo46:15

       But at the same time, I think I'm just over all of this shit. (laughs)
5. 1:00:00 – 1:10:12

   (sighs) …

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:00:00

      Someone's willing to, like, just go out there and kill-

   2. SSSuzanne Santo1:00:02

      (sighs)

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:00:02

      Do... The wildest shit you can do is end a person's life, and it might be her life, so they align themselves with this guy. Like-

   4. SSSuzanne Santo1:00:09

      I- I feel like that would be, like, an interpretation of power in some way, obviously. Because if you have the power and the gumption to end someone's life, that's a specified brand of power.

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:00:23

      Right.

   6. SSSuzanne Santo1:00:23

      So, um, and, you know, I'll be honest. There- there's a lotta, uh, a lotta betas out there. And, you know, I think that there's a-

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:00:32

      What are you saying?

   8. SSSuzanne Santo1:00:33

      There's an imbalance. Um, a gr- uh, actually, a- an egregious imbalance in our femulin- feminine and masculine social, um, structure. So, I- I mean, I'm not- I'm not into serial killers. Disclaimer. But I think I could understand a specific kinda woman that really needed a specific kind of energy, which is fucked up. I mean, there's a lotta therapy in- in there.

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:01:01

      Yeah.

   10. SSSuzanne Santo1:01:01

       But, um, I think that, you know, with this imbalance, a lot of us, like, not myself anymore, 'cause I- I really did find my king, and he's something else. (laughs) Um, and I've never felt this balanced in my life, to be honest with you. Um, because he's really such a man, uh, in so many ways, i- in his intellect, but he- he's also...... so kind and sensitive.

   11. JRJoe Rogan1:01:27

       He's jacked too.

   12. SSSuzanne Santo1:01:28

       He's jacked too. He's really jacked.

   13. JRJoe Rogan1:01:30

       That's important. Isn't that?

   14. SSSuzanne Santo1:01:30

       Nick, that's you.

   15. JRJoe Rogan1:01:30

       That's a little bit important.

   16. SSSuzanne Santo1:01:31

       Um, but I... You know, I'll speak for myself.

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:01:33

       Shout out to Nick.

   18. SSSuzanne Santo1:01:34

       Shout out to Nick.

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:01:34

       (laughs)

   20. SSSuzanne Santo1:01:34

       I'll speak for myself. Eh, you know, I've been alone for a long time, and I've been lonely for a long time, and I've been very autonomous in this way where I feel like I've had to be very masculine and feminine in the sense of, like, just taking care of myself. And it's really-

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:01:50

       Masculine as like-

   22. SSSuzanne Santo1:01:51

       Like, i-

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:01:52

       ... protecting yourself?

   24. SSSuzanne Santo1:01:53

       Yeah, yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:01:53

       Right.

   26. SSSuzanne Santo1:01:53

       Like me looking out for me.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:01:55

       Right.

   28. SSSuzanne Santo1:01:55

       And, and-

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:01:55

       You have to be hard.

   30. SSSuzanne Santo1:01:56

       Yeah.

Episode duration: 3:28:15