Joe Rogan Experience #1786 - Freddie Gibbs & Brian Moses

Joe Rogan 0:00 (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

Narrator 0:04 The Joe Rogan Experience. (energetic music) Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.

Freddie Gibbs 0:12 Salud.

Brian Moses 0:13 Salud.

Joe Rogan 0:13 Salud.

Freddie Gibbs 0:14 Welcome. Freddie-

Brian Moses 0:15 Yes, sir.

Joe Rogan 0:15 ... Bryan Moses. Nice to see you gentlemen. Thanks for coming.

Brian Moses 0:19 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 0:20 How's Texas treating you?

Brian Moses 0:21 Back in this thing. Uh, shit. We went to a BYOB strip club last night.

Freddie Gibbs 0:25 Oh, boy. That's always rough. (laughs)

Brian Moses 0:28 I'm gonna be BYOB king, bring your own-

Joe Rogan 0:30 Oh my goodness.

Brian Moses 0:30 ... bitches. Bring your own bud. Bring your own-

Freddie Gibbs 0:33 Bullets.

Brian Moses 0:33 ... bullets. Bullets for sure.

Freddie Gibbs 0:36 (laughs)

Brian Moses 0:36 Bring your own motherfucking bullets.

Joe Rogan 0:37 Yeah. Only thing it was, was, uh, not bring your own Blacks. They had plenty of that there last night.

Brian Moses 0:41 Mm-hmm.

Freddie Gibbs 0:42 Where were-

Joe Rogan 0:42 And then we, and then we showed up.

Freddie Gibbs 0:43 Ah. (laughs)

Brian Moses 0:44 You, you go to racist shit. Jumping it off, right?

Joe Rogan 0:47 Yeah. It's the last day of white guilt month. We gotta, you know-

Brian Moses 0:49 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 0:49 ... we're going out with a bang. (laughs) They trying to get my man, Rogan, you know?

Brian Moses 0:53 Oh.

Joe Rogan 0:53 You can't be racist no more.

Freddie Gibbs 0:55 You can try.

Brian Moses 0:56 All right. Can we say, can we say nigga?

Freddie Gibbs 0:59 You can.

Brian Moses 1:00 Okay. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:01 (laughs)

Freddie Gibbs 1:01 You can. Well-

Brian Moses 1:02 All right.

Freddie Gibbs 1:02 ... if I wanna say, I'll just pause and then you just fill in the blanks.

Brian Moses 1:04 Right. Just send it off to me.

Freddie Gibbs 1:05 So anytime there's a video- (laughs)

Brian Moses 1:06 Just send it off to me man. Just send it off to me, Joe.

Freddie Gibbs 1:08 Yeah.

Brian Moses 1:08 You can't say that shit, Joe 'cause-

Freddie Gibbs 1:10 No.

Brian Moses 1:10 ... you, you pissed niggas off when you did that compilation. It was funny as fuck though, I can't even lie. But, you know, it's, uh-

Freddie Gibbs 1:15 Well, I didn't mean it as a compilation.

Brian Moses 1:17 But they made a compilation.

Freddie Gibbs 1:18 Oh, I am aware.

Brian Moses 1:19 And that shit was crazy.

Freddie Gibbs 1:21 Yeah, yeah. Not good.

Brian Moses 1:22 But the... But it... Hey man, look, I don't think you're a racist, my nigga. You my nigga. I fuck with you.

Freddie Gibbs 1:26 Thank you. Appreciate it.

Brian Moses 1:26 So I don't, I don't think... I never thought you was a racist. I just think you was just-

Freddie Gibbs 1:29 I'm definitely not.

Brian Moses 1:29 ... saying some shit you shouldn't have said and a lot of us niggas say some stuff that we shouldn't say sometime. It is what it is.

Freddie Gibbs 1:35 But that's the only word that, like, you, you can't say no matter what.

Brian Moses 1:38 Nah, you gotta give that to us. That's the thing. And I wanna tell white people right now, y'all just gotta let us have that. Like quit trying to...

Freddie Gibbs 1:44 (laughs)

Brian Moses 1:44 Just let us have nigga. We got it. You know what I mean? Like that, there's one thing, you know what I mean? Y'all already human trafficked us over here. Let us have that. Just let us have it.

Joe Rogan 1:51 It's the most powerful world... Uh, world.

Brian Moses 1:54 World.

Joe Rogan 1:54 It's the most powerful word in, in the Eng- Like what? Not the English language-

Freddie Gibbs 1:57 Yes.

Joe Rogan 1:58 ... just every one of them. Right?

Freddie Gibbs 1:59 Well, it's the most versatile too.

Joe Rogan 2:00 Right.

Freddie Gibbs 2:01 As far as like, it could either be hateful coming out of a white person's mouth or ignorant, or it could be, for a Black person it could be a punchline, it could be a term of endearment.

Brian Moses 2:11 Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 2:11 It could, it could be many things.

Brian Moses 2:13 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:13 Yeah. It's like what Bernie Mac said about-

Freddie Gibbs 2:14 It could be a question.

Joe Rogan 2:15 ... motherfucker.

Freddie Gibbs 2:16 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:16 Motherfuckers are, you know, versatile.

Brian Moses 2:17 See niggetts-

Joe Rogan 2:18 Same thing with nigga.

Brian Moses 2:19 Nigga's a noun.

Joe Rogan 2:19 Or niggas.

Brian Moses 2:19 It's... Nigga's a noun, the person, place or thing.

Joe Rogan 2:22 Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 2:22 It's a lot of things.

Brian Moses 2:23 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:24 I mean-

Freddie Gibbs 2:24 It's a verb too.

Brian Moses 2:25 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 2:25 It's also pound for pound-

Freddie Gibbs 2:26 I guess it's not a verb.

Joe Rogan 2:26 ... the greatest slur in history, you know?

Freddie Gibbs 2:28 Yeah. But the, the problem is, there's no real slur that's stuck with white people. Like, uh, who had a... Alonzo had a bit about it.

Joe Rogan 2:35 Alonzo Bodden?

Freddie Gibbs 2:36 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:37 What is it?

Freddie Gibbs 2:37 I don't... I forget how it worked. There's something about-

Brian Moses 2:39 No slur that stuck with white people?

Freddie Gibbs 2:40 Honkey. Honkey never really stuck.

Brian Moses 2:42 Honkey ain't really-

Joe Rogan 2:43 No.

Brian Moses 2:43 Honkey don't sound good coming out-

Freddie Gibbs 2:45 Cracker.

Joe Rogan 2:45 No.

Freddie Gibbs 2:45 Snuffin.

Brian Moses 2:46 Cracker... Nope. Here we go. Well, they got another compilation coming down-

Freddie Gibbs 2:49 There's no-

Brian Moses 2:49 ... Joe being racist about white people. (laughs)

Freddie Gibbs 2:50 (laughs) Yeah, I tried.

Brian Moses 2:51 I mean, cracker just-

Joe Rogan 2:52 Whitey, honkey.

Brian Moses 2:53 It just... It don't sound fresh, you know what I mean? It... You could say it, but like-

Freddie Gibbs 2:56 Yeah.

Brian Moses 2:56 ... it sound... It just sound like some shit an old nigga would say.

Joe Rogan 2:58 There's just a lot attached to nigger though.

Brian Moses 3:01 Oh, damn. You said, you put C... There you go.

Joe Rogan 3:03 Yeah.

Brian Moses 3:04 You, you transformed the word. You, you put the R on it, didn't you?

Joe Rogan 3:06 I stuck the landing, bro.

Brian Moses 3:07 That changes shit.

Joe Rogan 3:08 Yeah.

Brian Moses 3:08 That changes shit when you say that.

Joe Rogan 3:10 Apparently there's a-

Brian Moses 3:10 Even when, even when Black people say it with a hard R, it sound funny.

Freddie Gibbs 3:13 What is that word, uh, that South Africans have? They have a word, it was in Lethal Weapon. Remember that movie?

Brian Moses 3:19 Uh.

Joe Rogan 3:19 Yeah, which one?

Freddie Gibbs 3:21 One of the ones where the, the evil people were the South African people. They were the apartheid people.

Brian Moses 3:24 Oh, they say, what they say? What, what they call Black people? Uh-

Joe Rogan 3:27 The Africans.

Freddie Gibbs 3:27 They have a different word.

Brian Moses 3:28 Ikata or something like that?

Freddie Gibbs 3:29 Yeah, something like that.

Joe Rogan 3:30 Something like that then.

Brian Moses 3:30 Something like that. Like a cotton picking nigga.

Joe Rogan 3:33 (laughs)

Brian Moses 3:33 That's what they call American niggas.

Joe Rogan 3:34 Bro, Spotify is not airing this episode. (laughs) Not with all these niggas.

Freddie Gibbs 3:38 They have to.

Brian Moses 3:39 They got to.

Freddie Gibbs 3:40 They have to. It's just like-

Brian Moses 3:40 Hey, fuck Ni- fuck Neil Young, man.

Freddie Gibbs 3:42 Oh. Whoa.

Brian Moses 3:42 Let me tell you... Let me say something about Neil Young.

Freddie Gibbs 3:44 This is outrageous.

Brian Moses 3:44 Hey, Neil Young, man. I know you want to get Joe off this motherfucker, right? But look though, my nigga. You pulled your shit off, but would you have pulled it if it was only the nigga shit? If you thought Joe was a racist, would you-

Joe Rogan 3:55 (coughs)

Brian Moses 3:55 ... would have stood up for niggers? I think not.

Joe Rogan 3:57 No. Yeah, Neil didn't say anything when the, uh-

Brian Moses 3:59 He ain't say nothing about that.

Joe Rogan 3:59 ... the, the N-word drop came out.

Brian Moses 4:01 (clears throat) He ain't say nothing.

Joe Rogan 4:01 He went all about that vaccine, misinformation.

Freddie Gibbs 4:03 In his defense, that was before. He, he did his thing before.

Brian Moses 4:07 Well, he should have doubled back for niggers.

Joe Rogan 4:10 (laughs)

Brian Moses 4:10 Fuck that. Only thing I was mad at you, Joe, man, you fucked up with India.Arie, man. You had a lot of bitches that couldn't put their shea butter on, she pulled that motherfucking shit off Spotify.

Joe Rogan 4:19 (laughs)

Brian Moses 4:19 You fucked up shea butter for niggers with India.Arie, man. Shout out to India.Arie. Please put your music back up. We love you baby girl.

Freddie Gibbs 4:26 I love her too.

Brian Moses 4:27 Joe-

Freddie Gibbs 4:27 I love her voice.

Brian Moses 4:28 Joe didn't mean that shit.

Freddie Gibbs 4:29 And, and you know what? I also support what she's saying. One of the things that she's saying is that, why does... why doesn't she get paid well?

Joe Rogan 4:35 Right.

Freddie Gibbs 4:36 For streams. That's a... It's a predatory business, man.

Brian Moses 4:38 It is. I mean-

Freddie Gibbs 4:39 The, the music business, the way the record companies own the artists and o-... You could speak to this.

Brian Moses 4:44 Yeah, I'm outta this shit. I'm about to do a podcast, nigga.

Freddie Gibbs 4:46 Are you?

Joe Rogan 4:47 (laughs)

Brian Moses 4:47 Hell yeah. Fuck this rap shit, nigga.

Joe Rogan 4:48 (laughs)

Brian Moses 4:48 This podcast shit make way more motherfucking money than the motherfucking price of the motherfucking stream over some rap shit, you know.

Joe Rogan 4:54 Wait a minute, wait. Hold on. Let's go back to India.Arie hold.

Freddie Gibbs 4:56 No, so the thing is like-

Joe Rogan 4:57 She, she jumped on your scandal so she could push her own, uh, her own agen- agenda.

Freddie Gibbs 5:01 No, I mean, she was... I think she was genuinely upset, but-

Joe Rogan 5:04 She was.

Brian Moses 5:04 She had a right to be upset.

Freddie Gibbs 5:05 Yes.

Brian Moses 5:05 Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 5:05 But I, I also think that, um, she used it as an opportunity to, uh, express her plight.

Joe Rogan 5:11 Right.

Freddie Gibbs 5:11 You know, express herself about her plight because artists that don't own their music, someone else got your music bef-... And a lot of them, it was before streaming even existed, right?

Brian Moses 5:21 Right.

Freddie Gibbs 5:21 So they had these contracts where they thought they were selling records and you'd sell records for a certain amount of time and then someone else would own the right to the music, but that's fine, you already sold the records, you got your piece or whatever.

Brian Moses 5:32 Man, it's a-

Joe Rogan 5:33 Damn.

Brian Moses 5:33 ... it's a predatory business, man. Artists don't-

Freddie Gibbs 5:35 It is.

Brian Moses 5:35 You know, if you don't know the equation, you know, you ain't going to... You know, you're not gonna succeed, you know. Peo-... Most artists don't know that your rate, your rate of debt i-... Versus your, you know, rate of recoupment.

Freddie Gibbs 5:44 Right.

Brian Moses 5:45 You know what I mean? So-

Freddie Gibbs 5:45 In terms of like-

Brian Moses 5:46 Yeah, so-

Freddie Gibbs 5:46 ... how much money they spend promoting you.

Brian Moses 5:47 Yeah, they... I mean, you know, if a label give you a million dollars, you know what I'm saying? You only gonna recoup that at like, you know... Say if your percentage per se is like 20%, you're only gonna recoup that at a 20% rate.

Freddie Gibbs 5:57 Right.

Brian Moses 5:57 You know what I'm saying? And then, you know, you gonna-

Joe Rogan 5:59 It just sounds like-

Brian Moses 5:59 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 6:00 It sounds like music's musical slavery.

Brian Moses 6:01 And then once... And then once you recoup that at that 20% rate, so how long would it take you to recoup a million dollars at a 20% rate?

Joe Rogan 6:07 Yeah.

Brian Moses 6:08 And then once... If you recoup that-... you know what I'm saying? You start gaining at a 20% rate. So it's all, you know-

Narrator 6:13 Right.

Freddie Gibbs 6:13 Courtney Love broke it down in an article once.

Brian Moses 6:16 Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 6:16 She wrote an article explaining how, how they do their mathematics. Like, how they do their accounting.

Brian Moses 6:22 Yeah. (clears throat) The math and music is fucked up.

Joe Rogan 6:23 (laughs)

Freddie Gibbs 6:23 The crazy thing is that they kept it going even after streaming came along, because the record sales were gone.

Brian Moses 6:29 Right.

Freddie Gibbs 6:29 And now the way they do it, they have a piece... They make these deals with an artist where they have the piece of your merchandise, they have a piece, piece of your live. Like the live-

Brian Moses 6:38 Wait, what?

Freddie Gibbs 6:38 Yes.

Brian Moses 6:39 Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 6:39 The live used to be all the artist.

Brian Moses 6:41 360. Oh.

Freddie Gibbs 6:42 Yeah. But now they get a piece of everything.

Brian Moses 6:44 Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 6:44 Because they had to, because they don't sell records anymore.

Brian Moses 6:46 Right. Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 6:47 So they have the streaming, they have a little piece of this, a little piece of that. They got a piece of everything.

Brian Moses 6:51 Most, most artists.

Freddie Gibbs 6:53 Yeah.

Brian Moses 6:53 Not Freddie Gibbs.

Freddie Gibbs 6:55 Well, you're popular enough that you can escape... There's like a thing called escape velocity-

Brian Moses 7:00 There's motherfuckers... Oh, but I don't know, this motherfucker is more popular than me that's, well, that's fucked, you know what I'm saying? (laughs)

Freddie Gibbs 7:03 Yeah. They got stuck in a contract though, right?

Brian Moses 7:05 Yeah. It is what it is, you know what I mean? It, it just depends on what level of this game you wanna be. You know what I mean? If you, you know... I, I didn't really give a fuck about being su- super famous as a motherfucking rapper, man. I, I wanted to turn a profit, you know what I mean? And, uh, you know, use this to, you know, put me in positions to do other things as well, you know. Because I'm, you know, definitely more versatile than a, you know, just a rapper, you know, so.

Freddie Gibbs 7:26 Well, you have the most important thing for podcasts. You got authenticity.

Brian Moses 7:30 Definitely.

Joe Rogan 7:31 (laughs) He's a real nigger.

Brian Moses 7:32 Definitely need that. Real nigger. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 7:34 We counting this nigga's Spotify? (laughs)

Freddie Gibbs 7:36 It doesn't count.

Brian Moses 7:37 There's like 99 niggas.

Freddie Gibbs 7:38 If you guys say it.

Brian Moses 7:39 Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 7:39 It's clean.

Joe Rogan 7:39 It's clean. (laughs)

Freddie Gibbs 7:40 We're, we're at zero. (laughs)

Brian Moses 7:42 Clean bill of health for this motherfucker, man. We done brought Joe back, man.

Joe Rogan 7:46 (laughs)

Brian Moses 7:46 We done brought Joe back.

Freddie Gibbs 7:47 (laughs)

Brian Moses 7:47 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 7:49 Ah.

Freddie Gibbs 7:50 (coughs)

Brian Moses 7:50 Joe... The last couple days of Black History month, Joe was like, "Fuck it."

Freddie Gibbs 7:52 Yeah, man.

Brian Moses 7:53 Yeah, man. Joe... We done brought Joe back.

Freddie Gibbs 7:54 Not a good month for it.

Joe Rogan 7:55 Not a good month for it. Well, you know, this is my favorite, uh, two weeks of the year, Black History month.

Brian Moses 8:00 I know something you could do there. I know something you could do. You could donate some shit, Joe.

Freddie Gibbs 8:03 What are you gonna donate to him?

Brian Moses 8:04 To the hood. Like I, I got some little shit you could donate to some li- uh, hood, hood shit and gear. You could rebuild a park. Any of this shit. You know what I'm saying?

Freddie Gibbs 8:10 Okay. I'd be happy to.

Brian Moses 8:12 See? There we go.

Freddie Gibbs 8:12 Yeah.

Brian Moses 8:12 See, that's how we... See, that's how we make progress, niggers.

Joe Rogan 8:15 See?

Brian Moses 8:15 Nigger, you feel me?

Joe Rogan 8:17 People think, people think drug dealers don't give back to the community.

Brian Moses 8:18 That's what I'm saying.

Joe Rogan 8:19 Yeah. But look though, we gotta tore it down-

Brian Moses 8:21 Fred had conversations-

Joe Rogan 8:21 ... with crack, and then Joe's gonna build it back up with money.

Brian Moses 8:23 And that's... Hey, look.

Joe Rogan 8:25 (laughs)

Freddie Gibbs 8:25 Well, I've been talking about that forever.

Brian Moses 8:26 It's full circle, motherfucker.

Freddie Gibbs 8:28 I've been talking about that forever. It's about time I put my money where my mouth is.

Brian Moses 8:30 Let's, let's do it. I mean, I got some programs you could, you know, get into, man.

Joe Rogan 8:33 Yeah.

Brian Moses 8:33 And niggers will really love that, man. You know what I'm saying? And they ain't walking a motherfucking second-

Joe Rogan 8:36 How come when people were talking about pulling their stuff off Spotify, they didn't say, "Go put your, go put your music on a, a Black, uh, platform, uh, streaming platform?"

Brian Moses 8:44 No.

Joe Rogan 8:44 Do they have music streaming platforms-

Brian Moses 8:45 Yeah, nigga.

Joe Rogan 8:45 ... for Black people?

Brian Moses 8:46 Yeah, nigga. TIDAL, Jay-Z own one.

Joe Rogan 8:48 No, they sold that to Twitter, right? Or Jack Dorsey?

Brian Moses 8:50 Oh, I don't know the business of some shit, dog. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 8:52 They did? (laughs)

Brian Moses 8:53 I thought that Jay, Jay w- you know, sh- shout out to Jay-Z. He was the first-

Joe Rogan 8:56 Yeah.

Brian Moses 8:56 ... motherfucker to do that. You know what I mean? So, uh, I-

Freddie Gibbs 9:00 What did, what did Kanye do? He did some crazy thing where he, he... You have to buy a recor- a player-

Brian Moses 9:04 Oh.

Freddie Gibbs 9:05 ... to listen to his music.

Joe Rogan 9:06 Genius. The nigger is-

Brian Moses 9:07 He sold-

Joe Rogan 9:07 Genius. He did the, he did the, the Louis C.K. thing, basically. Like, "You gotta go to my website and buy this shit."

Brian Moses 9:11 He sold... You gotta go buy a Walkman-

Joe Rogan 9:12 Right. (laughs)

Brian Moses 9:12 ... to listen to Kanye new shit.

Joe Rogan 9:14 It really is. Like, what is this?

Brian Moses 9:15 The stem-

Freddie Gibbs 9:15 Okay.

Joe Rogan 9:16 Oh.

Freddie Gibbs 9:16 A stem player.

Brian Moses 9:17 Oh, shit. I thought-

Freddie Gibbs 9:18 So it, it looks like-

Joe Rogan 9:19 I'm on mine today but-

Brian Moses 9:19 I thought that was a vibrator.

Freddie Gibbs 9:21 It looks like a... One of them containers where a girl keeps the pill.

Joe Rogan 9:25 Right.

Brian Moses 9:25 Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 9:25 Right?

Brian Moses 9:26 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 9:26 Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 9:26 Doesn't it look like the pill?

Brian Moses 9:27 Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 9:28 So, okay, look at this little-

Guest 9:29 No, Charlie don't hear me.

Joe Rogan 9:30 Or like one of those Simon Says.

Freddie Gibbs 9:31 Whoa. Look at this shit. Did he... He probably designed this thing.

Guest 9:34 No, Charlie don't hear me.

Joe Rogan 9:35 I think they... I think he bought it.

Brian Moses 9:36 That's the only way you could hear it, though, now.

Freddie Gibbs 9:37 He bought it? But it looks like something-

Joe Rogan 9:38 Or licensed it and bought it.

Freddie Gibbs 9:39 ... he would design.

Joe Rogan 9:39 But yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 9:40 Wouldn't it look like something Kanye would design?

Joe Rogan 9:41 For sure, yeah, man.

Brian Moses 9:42 Kanye's of the future, bro. That's crazy.

Freddie Gibbs 9:44 He's in another realm, for sure.

Brian Moses 9:46 Nigger, where do you plug in the aux?

Joe Rogan 9:48 Uh, there is, there's a, there's a, there is an aux port-

Guest 9:51 Like U-N-I-U-S-E. The back of the seat/ The back of the seat. We never caught on y'all.

Brian Moses 9:52 Oh, there's an aux port over there.

Freddie Gibbs 9:52 So is there, uh, a headphone port?

Joe Rogan 9:54 Yeah, yeah.

Brian Moses 9:54 Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 9:54 You have to get separate headphones?

Joe Rogan 9:56 No. So there's a little port for that.

Brian Moses 9:57 Is that Bluetooth?

Joe Rogan 9:58 Yeah. What you can do here, there... He's remixing the stems. Like, there's a vocal stem, bass stem, sample stem, and drums. And you can sort of loop it.

Freddie Gibbs 10:07 What? So you can change like the-

Joe Rogan 10:09 You can remix it live.

Freddie Gibbs 10:10 ... the synthesizer?

Joe Rogan 10:11 Yeah, he's doing right there.

Guest 10:11 He's done miracles on me.

Brian Moses 10:13 So you could remix his shit.

Freddie Gibbs 10:15 What?

Joe Rogan 10:15 You can also remix your own shit there too-

Guest 10:17 He's done miracles on me.

Freddie Gibbs 10:17 That's brilliant.

Joe Rogan 10:17 ... using the same player.

Brian Moses 10:18 Really?

Freddie Gibbs 10:19 Wow, it's not just a player. This is brilliant.

Brian Moses 10:20 I'm gonna tell you nigg- I'm gonna tell you niggers this. You niggers... I'm not letting you niggers remix my shit. (laughs)

Freddie Gibbs 10:25 (laughs)

Brian Moses 10:25 The way it come out is the way it come out. Ain't no stems, none of that, motherfucker.

Joe Rogan 10:29 You're like one of them chefs. "No, no, no. You can't change the order." Yeah.

Brian Moses 10:31 No, remix your own... Remix that shit yourself, man. I ain't doing that.

Joe Rogan 10:33 Listen, I can't modify this shit.

Brian Moses 10:35 I, I feel you entirely, but I do love a remix. Like, you know what I love? I love-

Freddie Gibbs 10:39 Have you ever heard when they put Biggie in with the White Album?

Brian Moses 10:42 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 10:42 Right.

Freddie Gibbs 10:43 It's amazing.

Brian Moses 10:44 Jay-Z and, uh, the, the Beatles?

Joe Rogan 10:45 Right.

Freddie Gibbs 10:45 Yeah, they put J... No-

Brian Moses 10:46 Oh, oh, oh, that's, that's not a re-

Freddie Gibbs 10:47 Yeah.

Brian Moses 10:47 That's the mashup shit. I don't know why you got to...

Joe Rogan 10:48 Right, right.

Freddie Gibbs 10:48 But a bunch of people have done these.

Brian Moses 10:50 R. Kelly is the king of the remix.

Freddie Gibbs 10:51 And just individual songs, you know. But the J- the Jay-Z and the White Album, 99 Problems ... Well, they did 99 Problems with Hendrix, too.

Brian Moses 10:58 Right.

Freddie Gibbs 10:58 Did you ever hear that?

Joe Rogan 10:58 No.

Freddie Gibbs 10:59 It's amazing.

Joe Rogan 11:00 Yeah, send that to me.

Freddie Gibbs 11:00 It's Voodoo Child mixed with 99 Problems. It's outstanding.

Brian Moses 11:05 Hmm. I'm with it. Let's go.

Joe Rogan 11:07 Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 11:07 Yeah.

Brian Moses 11:07 We can't talk about remixes without R. Kelly, man. He put the R in R&B, man.

Joe Rogan 11:10 I thought Puffy created the, uh, the remix.

Brian Moses 11:13 R. Kelly, uh, uh... R. Kelly do some fire remixes too, man.

Joe Rogan 11:16 He do some fire remixes, yeah.

Brian Moses 11:17 See, Diddy, Diddy, Diddy remixed... Diddy did a remix, nigga, too.

Joe Rogan 11:21 R. Kelly is a very talented pedophile. (laughs)

Brian Moses 11:24 Damn, man.

Joe Rogan 11:25 Probably the most talented pedophile outside of Woody Allen.

Freddie Gibbs 11:28 It's hard to tell.

Joe Rogan 11:28 Are we ranking them?

Freddie Gibbs 11:29 It's... I bet some of them have died.

Brian Moses 11:31 Woody Allen's a piece of shit.

Joe Rogan 11:32 And they didn't get caught.

Brian Moses 11:33 Woody Allen a piece of shit 'cause he's still out.

Joe Rogan 11:36 He's still out. He's still out there.

Brian Moses 11:37 That's bullshit. Somebody need to Hannibal Buress that nigga like they did Cosby.

Joe Rogan 11:41 They've been trying, bro, but you know.

Brian Moses 11:42 That nigger fucked his stepdaughter.

Joe Rogan 11:45 So did, uh... Didn't, uh, Jerry Lee Lewis do that too?

Freddie Gibbs 11:47 I'm so glad I'm not the one talking about this.

Joe Rogan 11:49 (laughs)

Brian Moses 11:49 That's some sick shit.

Freddie Gibbs 11:50 No, Jerry Lee Lewis married like a, a cousin, I think.

Brian Moses 11:54 Damn, well-

Freddie Gibbs 11:54 Is that what it was?

Joe Rogan 11:55 Yeah, I think it was his cousin.

Brian Moses 11:57 A cousin. Well, damn. I saw it on, uh...

Freddie Gibbs 11:58 That's the least of his problem. The, the, there was... There's some other stuff that he did.

Joe Rogan 12:02 That's the least of his problems, fucking his cousin.

Freddie Gibbs 12:03 Yeah. Well, Jerry Lee Lewi-

Joe Rogan 12:04 Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 12:04 I mean, I don't wanna speak out of turn because I don't know exactly what's real and what's not.

Joe Rogan 12:07 According to the internet.

Brian Moses 12:08 Yeah, there's too, there's too many rem- yeah, there's too many rem-

Freddie Gibbs 12:09 According to the internet, it was sex.

Brian Moses 12:10 ... remik- compilations. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 12:12 13 year old cousin.

Brian Moses 12:12 For Joe outta context.

Freddie Gibbs 12:13 He had a 13 year old cousin who married her.

Joe Rogan 12:16 Okay.

Freddie Gibbs 12:16 Yo.

Brian Moses 12:17 ... all right, so we- we cancel him-

Freddie Gibbs 12:18 A tabloid sensation at the time, tarnished Lewis' reputation and did some damage to his career. So, in 1958-

Brian Moses 12:24 Some damage.

Freddie Gibbs 12:24 ... in some parts of the country, you could still marry a 13-year-old. That's what we're learning. Like, that's how crazy the world has changed in the short amount of time.

Joe Rogan 12:34 Damn.

Brian Moses 12:34 Yeah, that's-

Freddie Gibbs 12:35 That since 1958, in 1958 he thought it was totally normal to marry a 13-year-old while he was famous.

Brian Moses 12:40 I think in some of these states, like, the legal age of consent's still, like, teen shit.

Freddie Gibbs 12:44 Oh, yeah.

Brian Moses 12:44 There's some country monkey redneck shit going on in this motherfucker.

Freddie Gibbs 12:48 Let's take a guess.

Joe Rogan 12:49 (laughs)

Freddie Gibbs 12:49 Let's take a guess. What do you think the youngest age of consent in this country is? Let's just take a guess.

Brian Moses 12:53 16.

Freddie Gibbs 12:54 16?

Joe Rogan 12:55 14, I think, in, in some states.

Brian Moses 12:57 Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 12:57 I bet it's different for f-

Brian Moses 12:59 Sick fuck.

Freddie Gibbs 12:59 I bet it's different for boys.

Brian Moses 13:01 Whoa.

Freddie Gibbs 13:01 I bet, I bet there's an age consent for boys that's younger than that.

Brian Moses 13:05 Oh, no.

Freddie Gibbs 13:05 I think there is.

Joe Rogan 13:06 Interesting. Why is that?

Freddie Gibbs 13:06 Look up the age of consent for boys in New Mexico.

Brian Moses 13:10 Oh, shit.

Joe Rogan 13:11 For having sex, you're saying?

Freddie Gibbs 13:12 Uh-huh.

Joe Rogan 13:12 Okay, to have sex. Okay. To have consensual sex.

Freddie Gibbs 13:15 I, I think there was some wacky laws that they made back in the day, and it could've been, uh, something to do with, uh, famous important people that had something to do with, uh, fucking kids.

Joe Rogan 13:28 Why is that a thing?

Freddie Gibbs 13:29 Mm.

Joe Rogan 13:30 You know?

Brian Moses 13:31 Yes, it's a-

Joe Rogan 13:31 I mean, I- i- it is a thing.

Freddie Gibbs 13:32 Well, i- it is a thing.

Joe Rogan 13:33 It is.

Freddie Gibbs 13:33 Like, it's a, it's a terrible taboo that everyone's scared is real.

Brian Moses 13:37 Right.

Joe Rogan 13:37 That's right.

Freddie Gibbs 13:37 I don't know what's real. It says it's legal for an adult, someone 18-

Joe Rogan 13:40 Illegal.

Freddie Gibbs 13:40 Oh, it's illegal for someone 18 or older to have sex with a minor, someone younger than 16.

Brian Moses 13:45 So, 16.

Freddie Gibbs 13:45 Okay, so 16 is the age. It wasn't 13.

Brian Moses 13:47 I hit it on the head. I knew it.

Freddie Gibbs 13:48 Did it use to be younger?

Brian Moses 13:49 That's sick.

Guest 13:49 There's something here-

Freddie Gibbs 13:51 It says-

Guest 13:51 ... where it says, like, yeah, 13 to 16, but depending on-

Brian Moses 13:54 Ugh.

Guest 13:54 ... how much older the, the other person was.

Freddie Gibbs 13:57 Any button... Okay, anyone between the age of 13 and 16 can consent with a per- sex with a person who is no more than four years their senior, but that's, kind of, normal. I mean-

Guest 14:07 It's like high school.

Freddie Gibbs 14:08 S- yeah, well, 16 to 20's a little weird, but like, 13 to seven- eh, that's a little weird too.

Joe Rogan 14:12 I mean, basically we're talking about Euphoria, right? 'Cause that's, like, you know, high schoolers having sex.

Freddie Gibbs 14:14 Yeah. I didn't watch that. Is that good?

Joe Rogan 14:16 I was watching that shit last night. I was like, "Damn, some nasty mother bitch."

Freddie Gibbs 14:18 Is it good?

Joe Rogan 14:18 "Is it crazy?" Some good shit.

Brian Moses 14:20 Yeah?

Freddie Gibbs 14:20 What is it about?

Brian Moses 14:21 Uh, just some high school shit. Motherfuckers doing dope, fucking and, you know-

Joe Rogan 14:25 Yeah.

Brian Moses 14:25 ... shit like that. It's cool.

Freddie Gibbs 14:26 Remember that movie Kids?

Joe Rogan 14:27 Exactly. It's like, I feel like I, I've heard-

Brian Moses 14:30 Yeah, like that.

Joe Rogan 14:30 ... it's like that.

Brian Moses 14:30 It's in that realm. I like it. It's dope.

Joe Rogan 14:32 Kids the musical.

Freddie Gibbs 14:33 Yeah.

Brian Moses 14:33 It's amazing.

Freddie Gibbs 14:33 (smacks lips) It's a weird choice for a show to make.

Joe Rogan 14:38 What? High schoolers fucking?

Freddie Gibbs 14:39 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:40 And doing drugs?

Freddie Gibbs 14:41 I mean... (laughs) They're already-

Joe Rogan 14:42 I mean, what are you doing in high school, you know?

Freddie Gibbs 14:44 I mean, they do do it, you know?

Brian Moses 14:46 There's grown motherfuckers playing the roles, but you know, they're acting like they, uh-

Joe Rogan 14:48 I mean-

Freddie Gibbs 14:49 Weird too.

Joe Rogan 14:49 ... I remember being in junior high I saw a girl, she did a, like, she, like, snorted crystal meth at, like, the playground, you know? So, I mean, like-

Freddie Gibbs 14:55 Yeah. Oh my God. In high school?

Joe Rogan 14:56 Drugs are, drugs are a thing. Yeah, but I'm from, like, the high desert, so, you know, California.

Freddie Gibbs 14:58 Dude, I've been watching this YouTube series-

Brian Moses 15:01 That's, like, white-

Joe Rogan 15:01 That's, like, white high school shit, man.

Brian Moses 15:02 Yeah, it was Mexican and white and black, yeah.

Joe Rogan 15:03 Like, we was just smoking some weed and drinking some drank in the bathroom with Gary. We wasn't th-... Well, niggas in my high school wasn't snorting no goddamn stuff.

Brian Moses 15:10 I didn't, I didn't really have a lot of niggas in my high school.

Freddie Gibbs 15:12 Crystal meth is, that's, that's, like, heavy pill community when you start smoking crystal meth at school.

Joe Rogan 15:17 Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 15:18 You're, that's, you're, you got no guidance.

Joe Rogan 15:19 It's a desolate area too.

Freddie Gibbs 15:20 You got no guidance. I've been, uh, watching this YouTube series, it's called Soft White Underbelly. Have you heard of it?

Joe Rogan 15:26 No. (laughs)

Brian Moses 15:27 The fuck?

Freddie Gibbs 15:28 Dude, I'm telling you, it's fucking crazy. It's a, it's a great YouTube, uh, s- uh, channel, and one of the things it has on it is this, uh, inbred family-

Brian Moses 15:38 Huh.

Freddie Gibbs 15:38 ... from the Appalachian Mountains. Dude, it's the craziest shit. There's one guy, barks like a dog.

Brian Moses 15:44 What?

Freddie Gibbs 15:44 Yeah, this was a guy who's a mountain man.

Brian Moses 15:46 Oh, geez.

Freddie Gibbs 15:46 They had him up there, but-

Brian Moses 15:47 Fuck.

Freddie Gibbs 15:48 ... he also, he, he interviews gambling addicts. He interviews people that are, uh, hooked on crystal meth. He interviewed a few meth heads, a skin head. He interviewed a con man. It's... I've watched like, 10 of 'em over the last week. It's a great-

Brian Moses 16:01 Good Lord, yo.

Freddie Gibbs 16:01 The guy's great. He just-

Brian Moses 16:02 They out there.

Freddie Gibbs 16:03 He just lets these people-

Brian Moses 16:05 Where the fuck is the dental plan?

Freddie Gibbs 16:06 ... express themselves. Where's the dental plan? In the Appalachians? They don't have a dental plan.

Brian Moses 16:10 What the fuck?

Freddie Gibbs 16:10 They don't even have toothbrushes with that dude-

Joe Rogan 16:13 (laughs)

Freddie Gibbs 16:13 Guys, when that guy was growing up, I bet they had no toothbrushes.

Joe Rogan 16:16 Aren't they like, "Oh, shoot."

Freddie Gibbs 16:16 He, he has three teeth.

Joe Rogan 16:17 Don't they-

Brian Moses 16:18 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 16:18 Ain't they, like, coal miners and shit out there?

Freddie Gibbs 16:20 In some areas, yeah. I mean-

Joe Rogan 16:21 Damn.

Freddie Gibbs 16:21 ... in some areas. There's, there's parts of Appalachia that are, like, gentrified now, where they have, like, regular houses and normal people, and it's like a, um-

Joe Rogan 16:30 That's America for you-

Freddie Gibbs 16:30 ... like, like a normal city.

Joe Rogan 16:31 Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 16:31 But there's parts of Appalachia that don't have any electricity. You know, they, they live, you know, very s- far away from a lot of society, and there's a history of drug abuse up there, unfortunately, and deep poverty.

Joe Rogan 16:45 Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 16:45 And this guy interviewed quite a few of these people, and h- he interviewed this one family that was inbred, and he interviewed this one guy who basically was just talking about like, "We weren't poor because we had everything we needed. We could live off the land. We hunted for our food. We fished." But it's like, he's living a subsistence lifestyle. That was the guy with, the mountain man with three teeth. R- it's interesting shit, man. But it's-

Joe Rogan 17:08 I think he lost a tooth from, from the drugs. I don't know if it's necessarily just doing the-

Freddie Gibbs 17:10 Uh, it might have been-

Joe Rogan 17:11 ... the, the tooth brushing.

Freddie Gibbs 17:12 ... but I don't think so. I don't know. I mean, I'm, uh, what I'm looking at-

Brian Moses 17:15 Oh, my God.

Freddie Gibbs 17:15 It's hard to tell though, man. It's hard to tell, like, who's doing meth.

Brian Moses 17:18 Y- yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 17:18 But there's... Have you ever seen The Wonderful Whites of West Virginia?

Joe Rogan 17:22 Yeah, ex- that's what I'm saying.

Freddie Gibbs 17:23 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 17:23 Yeah, something like that.

Freddie Gibbs 17:24 Wild and Wonderful Whites.

Joe Rogan 17:24 Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 17:24 Well, those people, that, that part of the country is just, just obsessed with pill- or just, uh, infested with pills.

Brian Moses 17:31 Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 17:31 It's horrible.

Brian Moses 17:31 I don't even like driving through there on tour. I be like, "Fuck this shit." I'm catching a plane and you driving-

Freddie Gibbs 17:36 Scary shit, man.

Joe Rogan 17:37 Yeah, 'cause yeah, they, yeah, they still might lynch you.

Freddie Gibbs 17:39 It, it, it's all, it, the, sh-

Joe Rogan 17:41 Shit.

Freddie Gibbs 17:41 ... those people just got a shitty roll of the dice, man. That's where you grew up. You just got a bum roll of the dice. Until we realize that, like, as Americans, that not everybody started in the same spot, we're never gonna fix anything.

Brian Moses 17:53 Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 17:53 We gotta realize. We, we, this, all this pull you up by your bootstrap shit? Where the fuck were your bootstraps? Where were they? Were your bootstraps in a gang-infested neighborhood? Were your bootstraps-

Joe Rogan 18:03 Right.

Freddie Gibbs 18:03 ... in a trailer park in Appalachia?

Brian Moses 18:05 Right.

Freddie Gibbs 18:05 Where the fuck were your bootstraps?

Brian Moses 18:06 What if you ain't got no goddamn boots?

Freddie Gibbs 18:08 You might've been in Connecticut, bitch. You might've grew up- (laughs)

Joe Rogan 18:10 Oh, shit.

Brian Moses 18:11 Right.

Freddie Gibbs 18:11 You might've grew up in New Haven, Connecticut.

Brian Moses 18:13 My baby mama's from New Haven.

Freddie Gibbs 18:14 That's why I was saying New Haven's a little sketchy.

Joe Rogan 18:15 Well, that's, that's all about parent and ed- education. We, I mean, it- that's the first time I came out here talking about that. It's all about education.

Freddie Gibbs 18:18 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 18:18 Just feed 'em a book. You know what I mean?

Freddie Gibbs 18:20 Well, it's also about the culture you're growing up in, you know, and how safe you are, how safe you are to even explore ideas. You might just be trying to survive. You're living in the Appalachia and your fucking parents are on pills and they punch you every time you try to eat food.I mean-

Joe Rogan 18:33 Right.

Freddie Gibbs 18:33 ... what the fuck? That's a-

Joe Rogan 18:34 Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 18:34 ... little kid out there that's probably having, he's probably having that experience right now.

Joe Rogan 18:38 It could be a cultural thing, if we're really getting into it, though, right? Because not every faction of people are like that, right?

Freddie Gibbs 18:44 Right.

Joe Rogan 18:44 Like we're talking about people in the inner city, like gang culture, right? That's a, that's a culture of, you know, gang violence.

Freddie Gibbs 18:48 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 18:48 So like they're growing up in that, right? But if you look at, let's say, maybe a Jewish neighborhood, right? They're not punching their kids, you know what I mean?

Freddie Gibbs 18:54 Right.

Joe Rogan 18:54 Losing the teeth, doing the drugs kind of a thing. They're n- they don't have a bunch of gangs running around kind of a thing. Italian neighborhoods, right? You don't really see all that kinda stuff. So I'm saying, it really does take a village, but-

Brian Moses 19:03 What you mean they ain't got no gang? Nigga, they got the mafo- the mafia.

Joe Rogan 19:06 Yeah, but are they, are they running around killing, you know?

Freddie Gibbs 19:09 They used to be. The FBI kind of a- obliterated them. (paper rustles)

Joe Rogan 19:12 So that, that helped the community more? I mean, why, why, why isn't that helping us?

Freddie Gibbs 19:16 It's a good point. That's a good point.

Joe Rogan 19:18 Right?

Freddie Gibbs 19:18 You know, one of the things that I always say, it's like, if you wanna make America great again or you wanna make America better, you gotta have less losers. What's the way to have less losers? Give people a chance to succeed. So you look at the people who have the worst chances of succeeding.

Joe Rogan 19:30 Mm-hmm.

Freddie Gibbs 19:30 It's people that grow up in crime-infested, drug-infested, gang-infested neighborhoods.

Joe Rogan 19:35 Right.

Freddie Gibbs 19:35 Because everywhere around you is terrible examples, and mostly what people do is we imitate our atmosphere.

Joe Rogan 19:41 Right.

Freddie Gibbs 19:41 And when your ex- your atmosphere is filled with terrible examples of crime, drugs, (clears throat) gang violence, all kinds of violence, i- it's casual, casual murder, you know, that's, that's people in parts of this country.

Brian Moses 19:53 But that come from, like-

Freddie Gibbs 19:54 It's a fact.

Brian Moses 19:54 That comes from, like, lack of opportunity, though.

Joe Rogan 19:56 Casual murder, yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 19:56 It does. It also comes-

Brian Moses 19:57 (clears throat)

Freddie Gibbs 19:57 ... from lack of attention. Like if you looked at the e-

Brian Moses 19:59 Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 19:59 ... United States as an organism, right? And you said, "Oh, well, the organism has these spots that are sick." Very, very obvious spots, you know, South Side of Chicago, Detroit. Look at these spots that are, you know, some of them you understand, how did this happen? Oh, Detroit, they took the fucking car manufacturing business and they moved it to another place, and these people didn't have jobs and they were fucked.

Joe Rogan 20:19 Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 20:19 And they were stuck there, and they didn't have enough money to leave, they just shut everything down. So you get rampant part... You could buy a house in Detroit for, like, $1,000. It's crazy.

Brian Moses 20:27 That is in Gary.

Freddie Gibbs 20:27 I'm not bullshitting.

Joe Rogan 20:28 Right.

Brian Moses 20:29 Same, same thing in Gary with the steel industry.

Freddie Gibbs 20:31 Exactly.

Joe Rogan 20:31 Yeah.

Brian Moses 20:31 And then I just looked at some stuff the other day. It was like, uh, it's, it's, like, the steel industry shrunk-

Freddie Gibbs 20:36 Yeah.

Brian Moses 20:36 ... and, like, now, and it, it's shrinking even more now. It's, like, 43% of the steel, you know, last year was imported.

Freddie Gibbs 20:43 The f- isn't the water-

Brian Moses 20:44 So it's like, they getting it.

Freddie Gibbs 20:44 ... in Flint, Michigan still fucked up?

Brian Moses 20:46 Oh, yeah. Hell yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 20:47 Is that real?

Brian Moses 20:48 That part's still fucked up. Motherf- mother-

Freddie Gibbs 20:49 What's-

Brian Moses 20:49 ... water look like it's got damn touched.

Freddie Gibbs 20:50 What's going on with the water in Flint, Michigan? Is it still fucked up? What's-

Joe Rogan 20:52 On that Flint water?

Freddie Gibbs 20:54 Yeah.

Brian Moses 20:54 We drink, we drinking Flint water right now.

Freddie Gibbs 20:55 Remember when Obama drank it on the air?

Joe Rogan 20:57 We drink Flint water every day.

Brian Moses 20:57 (laughs)

Freddie Gibbs 20:57 "I'm gonna drink this water. It's not a stunt."

Brian Moses 20:59 (laughs)

Freddie Gibbs 21:00 He had a little, like, the most baby sip of this water.

Joe Rogan 21:03 It was-

Brian Moses 21:03 Right. It was the mo-

Freddie Gibbs 21:03 'Cause he didn't wanna die.

Brian Moses 21:04 Nah, he ain't wanna die.

Joe Rogan 21:05 (laughs)

Brian Moses 21:05 It was a nigger that, uh, that, uh, a Black nigger that came with a truck and was making clean water out that motherfucker and they shut his shit down.

Joe Rogan 21:13 He was making clean water and they shut it down?

Brian Moses 21:14 He was making clean water. You can Google-

Freddie Gibbs 21:15 Shut it down, like a filter system?

Brian Moses 21:16 You can Google that shit, man. Th- then they shut his shit down.

Joe Rogan 21:17 Oh, he probably didn't have a permit.

Freddie Gibbs 21:18 Why did Obama drink like that though? If you're gonna have a glass of some bullshit water, take a fucking sip.

Brian Moses 21:23 What, uh, you weren't that the-

Freddie Gibbs 21:24 You telling me-

Brian Moses 21:24 ... same thing with, uh, Bush when he ate the, uh, i- in China and he threw up because it was like, it was poisoned or something like that? Who?

Joe Rogan 21:31 H.W. Bush?

Brian Moses 21:32 What happened with him? Yeah, didn't he have a-

Freddie Gibbs 21:33 Oh, he threw up.

Brian Moses 21:34 Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 21:35 He threw up some, threw up in someone's lap or some shit, right?

Brian Moses 21:37 Right. And he, uh, he didn't eat much. I, you know, I, I don't even know the story.

Freddie Gibbs 21:40 He might've just been old and tired.

Brian Moses 21:42 At that point? No, but that, it-

Freddie Gibbs 21:44 And just ate some food and threw up.

Brian Moses 21:45 Yeah, the joi- yeah, there we go.

Freddie Gibbs 21:46 Yeah, the fucking s-

Brian Moses 21:48 (laughs)

Freddie Gibbs 21:48 Oh my God, he fainted after vomiting in the guy's lap. (laughs)

Brian Moses 21:52 Okay. Gastroenteritis.

Freddie Gibbs 21:52 I'm sorry.

Joe Rogan 21:53 And that, yeah, yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 21:54 Yeah, gastro... Okay, so he had s- uh, he had, uh-

Brian Moses 21:56 So it wasn't poison.

Joe Rogan 21:57 Gastroenteritis.

Freddie Gibbs 21:57 He had b- well, that's what gastro-

Joe Rogan 21:59 There was a president who was poisoned, though. It wasn't Harris.

Freddie Gibbs 22:01 Is that ga- what is-

Joe Rogan 22:01 I think it might've been a Russian president.

Freddie Gibbs 22:02 ... gastroenteritis mean? Is that, um, food poisoning?

Guest 22:05 Stomach ache.

Freddie Gibbs 22:05 Stomach ache.

Brian Moses 22:06 Oh, stomach ache.

Joe Rogan 22:07 Ugh.

Brian Moses 22:07 Oh, he had the shits. He ain't have nothing but the bubble guts.

Freddie Gibbs 22:09 He had s-

Brian Moses 22:09 Bubble guts. (laughs)

Freddie Gibbs 22:09 But he, and he fell asleep.

Brian Moses 22:11 (laughs)

Freddie Gibbs 22:11 He blacked out.

Brian Moses 22:12 What'd he eat some, what'd he eat, some sushi?

Freddie Gibbs 22:14 Oh.

Brian Moses 22:14 That's just the most disrespectful shit. Oh, I knew it, man. It's sushi.

Freddie Gibbs 22:17 You know, if he wasn't a World War II veteran, I'd be like, "Listen, you can't be president anymore if you keep fainting."

Brian Moses 22:23 He's-

Freddie Gibbs 22:23 But I thought people said-

Joe Rogan 22:24 Look, okay, this is what I was talking about. They-

Freddie Gibbs 22:25 He just blacked out and threw up in the dude's lap.

Brian Moses 22:27 Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 22:27 That's crazy.

Joe Rogan 22:27 They thought they did that, yeah.

Brian Moses 22:28 Damn.

Joe Rogan 22:29 So I remember at the time-

Freddie Gibbs 22:30 Look at this.

Joe Rogan 22:30 ... they said, they thought they did this on purpose, the Chinese delegation or whatever.

Freddie Gibbs 22:34 Oh, man.

Brian Moses 22:34 Right? Wow.

Freddie Gibbs 22:35 Well, you know what, man? I think that job-

Joe Rogan 22:37 I gotta see that. I gotta post that on Instagram.

Brian Moses 22:38 Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 22:40 I... (laughs) I think that job wrecks people, man. I think that job wrecks people.

Joe Rogan 22:44 Like President of the United States?

Freddie Gibbs 22:45 I think the amount, yeah, the amount of attention that you get when you're working that job is probably off the charts. You probably can't sleep.

Brian Moses 22:52 Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 22:52 Like everyone, look at Obama's hair went gray almost immediately.

Brian Moses 22:55 Yeah, Trump, Trump would never be the same.

Freddie Gibbs 22:57 You look at him-

Brian Moses 22:57 Trump looked better.

Freddie Gibbs 22:58 Dude, Trump skated through it.

Brian Moses 23:00 I'm saying, Trump-

Freddie Gibbs 23:00 He skated through it.

Brian Moses 23:01 Yeah, Trump didn't age at all.

Freddie Gibbs 23:02 Taking cold medicine. (laughs)

Brian Moses 23:04 (laughs)

Freddie Gibbs 23:04 It was, it was just taking Adderall and riding the wave. I think Trump is-

Brian Moses 23:08 Yeah, he wasn't living in the White House. Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 23:10 If I had to guess, I think Trump's one of those dudes where he, he doesn't do drugs unless the doctor prescribes it. You know what I mean? Like, there's a part of our, like, our parents' era.

Brian Moses 23:19 Mm-hmm.

Freddie Gibbs 23:19 Where, like, "I don't do drugs." Meanwhile, they're on Xanax.

Brian Moses 23:23 Right, though.

Freddie Gibbs 23:24 Like, hey.

Brian Moses 23:24 Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 23:24 What the fuck are you talking about?

Brian Moses 23:25 Xanax, Vicodin.

Freddie Gibbs 23:25 You're on a crazy drug.

Brian Moses 23:27 Yeah. Right.

Freddie Gibbs 23:27 That's a crazy drug.

Brian Moses 23:29 Right. And you're drinking.

Joe Rogan 23:30 Prescribing your kids Adderall, yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 23:31 Yeah, you're drinking and you do Xanax and you tell me you don't do drugs?

Joe Rogan 23:34 (laughs)

Freddie Gibbs 23:34 How convenient.

Joe Rogan 23:35 Popping Perks, right?

Freddie Gibbs 23:36 And you're mad... That's the, what drives me crazy is when they're mad at weed smokers.

Joe Rogan 23:41 Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 23:41 Like, we are the only ones, the only ones-

Joe Rogan 23:44 Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 23:44 ... that when we're high, we're nicer.

Joe Rogan 23:46 Right, right. (laughs)

Freddie Gibbs 23:46 We're the only ones.

Joe Rogan 23:48 Right.

Freddie Gibbs 23:48 We're when, when I'm high, I'm so friendly. I wanna hug everybody. I'm never angry when I'm high.

Joe Rogan 23:53 You never, yeah, exactly.

Freddie Gibbs 23:54 Never.

Joe Rogan 23:54 You don't care about that shit.

Freddie Gibbs 23:55 I just want comradery and friendship and love. And that's an illegal drug? (laughs)

Brian Moses 24:01 Right.

Freddie Gibbs 24:01 And the fucking people that are drinking and, and popping Xanax, they're upset at you?

Brian Moses 24:06 Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 24:07 Weed brings us together.

Brian Moses 24:09 Definitely does.

Freddie Gibbs 24:10 Yeah. But there's a lot of things that weed also highlights that make you super uncomfortable. You know, people get high and they get paranoid as fuck, but I think it's because you should be. There's a fucking war going on right now.

Brian Moses 24:21 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 24:21 Yeah, yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 24:21 There's a crazy war going on right now in Russia.

Brian Moses 24:23 Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 24:24 And I s- I sp- no, excuse me, in Ukraine. I- I've been, I spent the last day and a half watching videos on it, trying to figure out what the fuck is going on, and it's complicated.... is really complicated. But what it seems is that Russia is worried that, um, Ukraine has massive reserves of oil and of gas.

Joe Rogan 24:44 Oh.

Freddie Gibbs 24:44 And so Russia took over Crimea. And Crimea, uh, it denies them access to a lot of their coastline when Russia did that. And then, um, Ukraine was apparently ... They were trying to, or at least in talks, to join NATO. I'm sorry if I fucking any this up because I'm just remembering what I read-

Joe Rogan 25:04 Oh, new compilation coming out.

Freddie Gibbs 25:05 ... and what I watch in videos. But what they're essentially saying is that Crimea and, and Ukraine, like, they, they want that for the natural resources. And also, because if that was NATO owned, if, if they were part of NATO rather, then they could park missiles in Ukraine-

Joe Rogan 25:21 Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 25:21 ... and point them towards Russia. It's, it's wild shit-

Joe Rogan 25:23 That's what I was reading, basically. It was like, uh, yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 25:24 ... because they used to all be in the same country not that long ago.

Joe Rogan 25:26 Right. Well, yeah, NATO and Russia obviously don't get along.

Freddie Gibbs 25:29 They were all part of the Soviet Union.

Joe Rogan 25:29 So it's like, yeah, if there's a sovereign nation being like, "Hey," like flirting with NATO, they're like-

Freddie Gibbs 25:32 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 25:32 ... "No, I don't want your military bases here." Like-

Freddie Gibbs 25:34 It's, well, it's obviously horrific.

Joe Rogan 25:35 That's, that's gonna create World War III.

Freddie Gibbs 25:37 It's obviously horrific.

Joe Rogan 25:38 Sheesh.

Freddie Gibbs 25:38 I'm not, I'm not, um, in any way saying that I'm on, uh, you know, the side of the Russians in any way. I'm not ... I'm definitely not. But what I'm saying is, like, this, this is what's going on. It's like a ... I'm just trying to relay the information as I know it, as what the conflict is, without a judgment. I'm not making any judgment. I see all these people making these judgments on, um, whether or not, uh, this is a good war or a bad war. And I'm like, "Man, how much do we know?" How much, how much time has anybody spent studying Ukraine, Russian-

Joe Rogan 26:08 There's no such thing as good war.

Freddie Gibbs 26:10 With an ... No such thing.

Joe Rogan 26:11 You know what I mean? Like, that's, that's an oxym-

Freddie Gibbs 26:12 No such thing.

Joe Rogan 26:12 That's crazy.

Freddie Gibbs 26:13 When you got missiles that are firing into apartment buildings-

Joe Rogan 26:17 (laughs)

Freddie Gibbs 26:17 ... like, there's no way those are the good guys.

Joe Rogan 26:18 There's ... No.

Freddie Gibbs 26:19 When you, you shoot a missile in a fucking apartment building, like, what the fuck is happening?

Joe Rogan 26:22 You don't ... If you're not valuing life, you can't be a good person.

Freddie Gibbs 26:24 Right.

Guest 26:24 Shit, the US do it all the time.

Joe Rogan 26:26 And this is what I'm saying. (laughs)

Freddie Gibbs 26:27 That's the point.

Joe Rogan 26:28 But Joe-

Freddie Gibbs 26:28 This is what I was gonna get to. Somebody put a chart up, which is wild, of all of the airstrikes that happened over the last, like, 48 hours.

Joe Rogan 26:36 Dog. Obama. (laughs) Dog.

Freddie Gibbs 26:37 Dude, they're constantly going on.

Joe Rogan 26:40 For real.

Freddie Gibbs 26:40 These airstrikes ... And, and th- the wild thing is the drone move.

Guest 26:44 Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 26:44 The drone move is like you can be in war and you're not even really there.

Guest 26:47 Mm-hmm, yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 26:48 Like, you don't even have to have a reason to enter a country, and you could launch missiles from robots.

Guest 26:54 Right.

Freddie Gibbs 26:54 And you could be in Nevada, bro, with an Xbox controller.

Guest 26:58 Controlling it.

Joe Rogan 26:59 Just murdering people.

Freddie Gibbs 27:00 Well, if you-

Joe Rogan 27:00 Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 27:00 If you're smart, you, you've played video games against someone who really knows how to use one of those fucking controllers.

Joe Rogan 27:06 Yeah.

Guest 27:06 Mm-hmm.

Freddie Gibbs 27:06 If you had a guy and he really knew his shit, wouldn't you recruit him to work for the fucking army?

Joe Rogan 27:12 Yeah.

Guest 27:12 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 27:12 But I also been saying this about, like, peeping Toms. Get you a drone, bro.

Freddie Gibbs 27:16 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 27:16 Stay in your mom's basement, you know what I mean? Don't, don't go in the trees and the bushes.

Freddie Gibbs 27:19 Don't go giving them any ideas.

Joe Rogan 27:20 My bad.

Freddie Gibbs 27:21 But for real, if they can make a drone that would respond the same way an Xbox controller respond, who is gonna beat Americans?

Joe Rogan 27:29 Nobody.

Freddie Gibbs 27:29 We just have robot wars-

Joe Rogan 27:31 We have the be- (laughs) Exactly.

Freddie Gibbs 27:33 But actually, who's-

Joe Rogan 27:34 Shit.

Freddie Gibbs 27:34 Who's the best at, like, Xbox? Is there one country ... Jamie, you would know this. Is, is there one country that dominates at, like, uh-

Joe Rogan 27:40 I think it's what?

Freddie Gibbs 27:41 ... Call of Duty?

Joe Rogan 27:41 Isn't it Korea?

Freddie Gibbs 27:43 Oh, they, they dominate-

Joe Rogan 27:44 Like, the one, one of the sides-

Freddie Gibbs 27:45 ... a lot of video games.

Joe Rogan 27:45 Yeah, yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 27:46 Korea dominates it a lot.

Joe Rogan 27:47 But, like, it's like those ELEAGUEs, right? I think those kids kill it.

Freddie Gibbs 27:49 They build stadiums over there.

Guest 27:50 They do.

Joe Rogan 27:51 Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 27:51 Stadiums-

Guest 27:51 That's crazy.

Freddie Gibbs 27:52 ... with people playing video games.

Guest 27:53 Mm-hmm.

Freddie Gibbs 27:53 Like, they did it with StarCraft and, uh ... What country kicks the most ass at video games?

Guest 28:01 (laughs) It's hard to say the game. Yeah, I mean, Call of Duty-

Freddie Gibbs 28:02 Okay, let's go Call of Duty because that's the most ...

Guest 28:04 It's mostly an American-based game. But, like, they're playing it in every country, and there's people that cheat in every country, so you couldn't cheat-

Joe Rogan 28:09 Nah.

Guest 28:09 ... when you're doing drone strikes and stuff, so ...

Freddie Gibbs 28:10 Of course you could. That's the thing.

Guest 28:12 You couldn't. You would be perfect.

Freddie Gibbs 28:12 They always told you in videos.

Joe Rogan 28:13 You could try them.

Guest 28:14 You could, but then the whole thing, that's not cheating.

Freddie Gibbs 28:16 You could do a drone striking mission.

Guest 28:16 That's just drone striking, that's not cheating. That's just using all advantages.

Joe Rogan 28:19 Man, just tell them, tell them to do the war in the metaverse, you know what I mean?

Freddie Gibbs 28:21 The thing is, if you can get a person to do it ... There are dudes that are so goddamn good with those controllers. They play so many video games. All they would have to do is make a video game, sort of interface where the guy is watching the drone, the drone looks like it's in a video game, and he would never miss.

Guest 28:38 Never.

Joe Rogan 28:38 Hell no.

Freddie Gibbs 28:39 Just be lighting people up.

Joe Rogan 28:40 They already got that shit.

Guest 28:42 What?

Freddie Gibbs 28:42 I'm sure they do.

Joe Rogan 28:43 That shit, that shit he talking about.

Guest 28:44 Yeah, I'm sure they do, right?

Joe Rogan 28:45 Yeah, I mean, we have propaganda for it. Don't we have, like, ads about, like, you know, join the army, you can do this kind of a thing?

Freddie Gibbs 28:50 The more I pay attention-

Joe Rogan 28:51 Play video games and you kill people.

Freddie Gibbs 28:52 ... the more I think these UFO sightings, a lot of these UFO sightings are military aircraft they're developing.

Joe Rogan 28:58 Mm.

Freddie Gibbs 28:58 The more I think about it, the more I think about how willing they are to talk about it. They're, they're willing to talk about the fact that, um, you know, that there are these ships that they can't track and they're moving at insane rates of speed. They're willing to talk about it. It's, like, one of two things. Either it's aliens or they've developed some kind of crazy technology, some anti-gravitational technology.

Joe Rogan 29:21 I think it's aliens.

Freddie Gibbs 29:22 It could be. But it might not be. That's the thing.

Guest 29:25 Why, why is there so much defense?

Freddie Gibbs 29:25 It's like we, we can develop a lot of shit. We can develop nuclear power. We can develop, we, we can develop, uh, nuclear missiles, hypersonic jets, jets that go faster than the speed of sound, spaceships. We can develop a lot of shit.

Joe Rogan 29:38 I think that-

Freddie Gibbs 29:38 Like, if they could just figure out a way to develop something that distorts gravity-

Joe Rogan 29:43 (laughs)

Freddie Gibbs 29:43 ... you know, because this has always been the thought of it.

Joe Rogan 29:44 (laughs) Okay.

Freddie Gibbs 29:45 Like, a thing that can distort gravity can act instead of like a p- ... Like, uh, Bob Lazar talked about this when he talked about back engineering UFOs.

Guest 29:52 Mm-hmm.

Freddie Gibbs 29:52 Instead of, like, blowing fire out of the back of a rocket, there's something that just distorts gravity. It can go to a place almost instantaneously.

Guest 30:00 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 30:00 Yo, we need that. Sheesh.

Freddie Gibbs 30:01 They're, they're gonna figure that out, man.

Joe Rogan 30:03 'Cause it was, yeah, airplanes and air travel is weak right now.

Freddie Gibbs 30:05 Ah.

Joe Rogan 30:06 Give me that shit.

Freddie Gibbs 30:07 It'll be instantaneous.

Joe Rogan 30:08 What's up with all the defense of humans versus humans, though? I mean, like, I know it's human nature, but maybe it's an earthling thing even. But we spend so much money and so much brain power on just, like, defending each other from each other. I mean-

Freddie Gibbs 30:18 Yeah. Well-

Joe Rogan 30:19 ... what's the point?

Freddie Gibbs 30:19 Not ... But very rarely individually.... the thing is it's almost all in groups. We're fucked because our heritage, all of our ancestors came from these small groups of people-

Joe Rogan 30:30 Mm-hmm.

Freddie Gibbs 30:30 ... that huddled up together to stay alive, and everybody outside of our group was the enemy.

Joe Rogan 30:35 Yep.

Freddie Gibbs 30:35 So we all have this programming that sucks, and this programming is based on ancient history. It's based on a time when there was no internet, there was no international travel, there was no... Like, everywhere you went, if a boat showed up on your, your shore, those were murderers. Those were, like, eight, eight times out of ten. (door closing)

Joe Rogan 30:53 (laughs)

Freddie Gibbs 30:53 You know? They would let you know. They had a flag-

Joe Rogan 30:55 Especially with Africa, yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 30:55 ... with a skull on it. Bro, they had a flag with a fucking skull on it.

Joe Rogan 30:58 Right, pirates.

Freddie Gibbs 30:59 All over North America. There's Captain Cooks, they, you know, all that shit.

Joe Rogan 31:03 (laughs)

Freddie Gibbs 31:03 Those bad motherfuckers, they, they were, they were... They would show up. If someone showed up, if it was, like, Christopher Columbus, if he showed up, if you knew what the fuck was gonna happen, you would've grabbed everybody-

Joe Rogan 31:14 Oh. (laughs)

Freddie Gibbs 31:14 ... and ran for the hills.

Joe Rogan 31:16 Yeah. (laughs)

Freddie Gibbs 31:16 You would have never stayed near those crazy fucks. First of all, the diseases-

Joe Rogan 31:20 Right.

Freddie Gibbs 31:20 ... second of all, the brutality. I was reading this thing about Columbus, where they were talking about Columbus hacked off people's arms. Like, not him, himself, but his people. They, this, there was a preacher that came with them, and they would tell these people, 'cause the people brought them gold as gifts-

Joe Rogan 31:35 Right.

Freddie Gibbs 31:35 ... and they said, "You gotta bring back your weight in gold." And when they didn't, what, they would just hack off one of their arms and send them back out there to get gold. It's cra- the... See if you can find it.

Joe Rogan 31:46 I am, though.

Freddie Gibbs 31:46 That, there's a, a, a-

Joe Rogan 31:47 Oh, that's-

Freddie Gibbs 31:47 A priest wrote about it in his journal. It's-

Joe Rogan 31:49 That's our American hero, Christopher Columbus.

Freddie Gibbs 31:52 The whole team of 'em-

Joe Rogan 31:53 But he, he was, he-

Freddie Gibbs 31:53 ... were sociopaths and murderers.

Joe Rogan 31:55 He did that to the Native Americans?

Freddie Gibbs 31:57 Yes.

Joe Rogan 31:57 You piece of shit, Christopher Columbus.

Freddie Gibbs 31:59 And then, but that's the-

Joe Rogan 31:59 So was like a cartel, basically.

Freddie Gibbs 32:00 That's the, that's the most brutal, but not even the worst of it. The worst of it was the diseases. Now they think that's what killed off the Mayans, that's what killed off 90% of the Native Americans.

Joe Rogan 32:11 That's that COVID.

Freddie Gibbs 32:12 It was their COVID, yeah.

Joe Rogan 32:13 Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 32:13 It was, it was smallpox, and, uh-

Joe Rogan 32:15 Oh, right, right, right.

Freddie Gibbs 32:15 ... and all kinds of diseases they brought with them from Europe.

Joe Rogan 32:18 Ugh.

Freddie Gibbs 32:18 They killed everybody in the Amazon. Dude, they're finding civilizations in the Amazon that housed millions of people, and they're finding 'em through this thing called LIDAR-

Joe Rogan 32:27 Mm-hmm.

Freddie Gibbs 32:27 ... where they fly over in jets, because the jungle's overtaken all these cities. So there used to be cities of millions of people in the Amazon.

Joe Rogan 32:35 Really?

Freddie Gibbs 32:35 And the Europeans showed up, and they just got 'em sick, and everybody died. And then when people came back to look for these cities, like, 50 years later, they were gone, just like Detroit's almost gone. Detroit's got houses-

Joe Rogan 32:46 Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 32:46 ... where trees are growing-

Joe Rogan 32:47 Oh.

Freddie Gibbs 32:47 ... in the middle of it.

Joe Rogan 32:47 Yeah, real shit. (laughs)

Freddie Gibbs 32:48 But this is even crazier, because it's in the middle of the jungle, so it's happening quicker.

Joe Rogan 32:52 Right. Yo, okay. (laughs) Europeans just came over and just murked everybody?

Freddie Gibbs 32:56 Murked everybody. Murked everybody with their cooties.

Joe Rogan 32:59 (laughs) Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 33:00 Europeans came over here with their cooties, and the biggest-

Joe Rogan 33:03 They put smallpox on blankets.

Freddie Gibbs 33:04 No, no, no, that's a myth, man.

Joe Rogan 33:06 That's a myth?

Freddie Gibbs 33:06 Yeah, most likely.

Joe Rogan 33:07 They should tell us that in school.

Freddie Gibbs 33:08 Most likely. I, I heard about that too, and I looked into it. They don't think they isolated smallpox that way. They don't think they understood it that way.

Joe Rogan 33:15 I was gonna say, that, that was, that'd be pretty fucking genius. Well, they made-

Freddie Gibbs 33:17 It would be, but the-

Joe Rogan 33:18 ... they made COVID, for sure. Right. (laughs)

Freddie Gibbs 33:20 The thing is, is they, they probably did that.

Joe Rogan 33:21 'Cause it's airborne, so yeah-

Freddie Gibbs 33:22 It, ar-

Joe Rogan 33:22 ... they was getting the shit.

Freddie Gibbs 33:23 It's, everybody was getting it, so, and it killed 90% of the Native Americans. 90% of 'em, man. That is the wi- I mean, you think about a disease that kills nine out of ten people, and it just swept through the entire continent. And, you know, all the Mayans, they were trying to figure out, what the, where the fuck did these people go?

Joe Rogan 33:42 Oh.

Freddie Gibbs 33:42 They made Chichen Itza, which is, have you ever been down there?

Joe Rogan 33:45 No. Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 33:46 Dude, I went down there. It's wild. You w- you walk amongst this place, you're like, "What is this? How did they do this?" They, they did this, like, 1,000 plus years ago. Like, what is this? What the fuck is this? It's all aligned to the different constellations. They have a room that they have set up just to do psychedelic drugs in.

Joe Rogan 34:06 Yo.

Freddie Gibbs 34:06 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 34:07 (laughs) What?

Freddie Gibbs 34:08 Yeah, we had a dr- we had a guy who was a guide, who was a professor, this really interesting guy. We hired this, uh, Mexican gentleman who knew everything about the Mayans, and he spoke fluent English and Spanish. So he'd explain it to you in Spanish and explain it to you in English, and he said this was a whole area where they take these leaves that contained lysergic acid, which is like LSD. And he was explaining this to me, and he didn't even know that I like to do drugs.

Joe Rogan 34:33 Right. (laughs)

Freddie Gibbs 34:34 He was just, he was just telling me, like, um, uh, like a civilian would.

Joe Rogan 34:36 You just drew away, yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 34:37 Yeah. And I'm like, "Okay, keep go- keep talking."

Joe Rogan 34:39 (laughs)

Freddie Gibbs 34:39 I'm like, "I knew it! I fucking knew it!" They had to be doing something-

Joe Rogan 34:43 Right. I mean, to think about-

Freddie Gibbs 34:44 ... that was so much more advanced.

Joe Rogan 34:45 Yeah, all the ingenuity and all that. I mean, I'll say this about the, the w- I mean, you're saying Europeans come over and did this?

Freddie Gibbs 34:50 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 34:52 I didn't, you know, we weren't, we were there, we were alive for World War II, but this conflict is the first time I've seen white people fight white people.

Freddie Gibbs 34:59 Right.

Joe Rogan 34:59 You know what I mean?

Freddie Gibbs 35:00 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 35:00 Like, this is kind of, I feel like this, this may change some things in the history books, and for- Anytime I went to, uh, Russia, shit? Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 35:05 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 35:05 Russia and the Ukraine. Like, I've ne- Yeah. ... I've never seen this. Mm. You know? It's always us and, you know, the Middle East or something like that.

Freddie Gibbs 35:11 Exactly.

Joe Rogan 35:12 Right, right, right. Yeah, but now this is like- This is white versus whites. ... it is a, it is a new kinda, it is a new kinda thing. Yeah, dude, I've never... This in the history books we'll see that, so I think there's a, there's a progression in a way, I think, that your, people will see, like, "Oh, it's not just these guys are evil." Right. "White people can be evil too."

Freddie Gibbs 35:25 It's, it's a human-

Joe Rogan 35:26 In the modern era. Oh, yeah. Not just Hitler. Right?

Freddie Gibbs 35:28 It's, it's a human thing, where people can get to a certain place where they have a certain amount of power, and they wanna hold onto it, and they do evil shit.

Joe Rogan 35:35 Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 35:35 It's a human thing.

Joe Rogan 35:36 Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 35:37 It w-

Joe Rogan 35:37 Ukraine is hard though. They got the boxers in there.

Freddie Gibbs 35:40 They are, uh, bro, they got-

Joe Rogan 35:40 I mean, like, yeah, Lomachenko is out there.

Freddie Gibbs 35:42 ... uh, Vitali Klitschko-

Joe Rogan 35:43 Look, Lo- Oh, yeah. ... Lo-

Freddie Gibbs 35:43 ... sociopaths and murderers.

Joe Rogan 35:44 ... Lomachenko is just- Lo- Lomachenko and Usyk. And Usyk is up there. And Usyk is up there too. Yeah. They're all armed to the teeth. I mean- They're strapped up. And all the ladies out there, all the volunteers, hard, bro.

Freddie Gibbs 35:52 Isn't Miss Ukraine in there? Like, Miss Univer- wasn't she like a Miss Universe contestant or something?

Joe Rogan 35:56 I saw a picture that they said that was a airsoft gun.

Freddie Gibbs 35:58 Oh, they lied.

Joe Rogan 35:59 They, th-

Freddie Gibbs 36:00 This is the problem.

Joe Rogan 36:00 Th- these-

Freddie Gibbs 36:00 There's so much lies.

Joe Rogan 36:01 Yeah, there's like, we don't know what's happening over there. They got a politician bitch that's in with the motherfucking, uh-

Freddie Gibbs 36:05 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 36:05 ... AK-47. Hey, Nancy Pelosi would never have an AK-47 if what he was going to motherfucking-

Freddie Gibbs 36:10 Not a chance.

Joe Rogan 36:10 ... Yeah, would Biden. Not a chance. Uh, would Biden, would Trump, you know, would Obama? Oh, fuck no. You know?

Freddie Gibbs 36:14 Bro, they got me with a parody. They, they showed Steven Seagal. It was like, uh, uh, somebody made a parody of a CNN article-

Joe Rogan 36:20 (laughs)

Freddie Gibbs 36:20 ... that said Steven Seagal is in the, in, in Ukraine.

Joe Rogan 36:23 I saw that.

Freddie Gibbs 36:23 And I was like, "Oh my God, if this is real..."

Joe Rogan 36:25 (laughs)

Freddie Gibbs 36:25 And I, I lazily looked for, like, five minutes, and then I couldn't find if it was fake or real, and I just posted it and saying that we're about 14 hours from the aliens landing.

Joe Rogan 36:33 (laughs)

Freddie Gibbs 36:34 And people were like-

Joe Rogan 36:34 Oh, you're serious?

Freddie Gibbs 36:35 ... "Why did you believe it's real?" I said, "I'll tell you why."

Guest 36:37 ... uh...

Freddie Gibbs 36:37 Steven Seagal was listed as a threat to the fucking nation of Ukraine in 2017.

Guest 36:45 Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 36:45 They won't let him in the country.

Guest 36:47 (laughs)

36:47 Why not?

36:47 A threat?

Freddie Gibbs 36:47 He's banned. Yeah. Yeah, he's a threat-

Guest 36:49 Wait, what?

Freddie Gibbs 36:49 ... to national security. Steven Seagal, Above the Law, the actor-

Guest 36:53 Under siege.

Freddie Gibbs 36:54 Look at my Instagram page, look at my Instagram page. He ... Washington Post story from fucking 2017. It's a legit news source. He was labeled a threat to national security, Above the Law-

Guest 37:05 Okay.

Freddie Gibbs 37:05 ... that guy-

Guest 37:06 He is though.

Freddie Gibbs 37:06 ... in Ukraine. So when I saw that he was in Ukraine ... I wa- it, it was a parody.

Guest 37:11 Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 37:11 I was like, "I could believe that." I can't believe that ... Have you seen it?

Guest 37:15 I'm trying to find the act- the, the link.

Freddie Gibbs 37:17 Just, uh, write Steven Seagal-

Guest 37:19 He is the fighter that's waiting to be able to be in, be in the country.

Freddie Gibbs 37:20 ... banned from Ukraine 2017.

Guest 37:22 I know it does say he was taken over-

37:22 Sounds like a movie plot one.

37:23 ... the searches. Uh, there we go.

Freddie Gibbs 37:28 Yeah, this is it. Ukraine bans Steven Seagal's threat-

Guest 37:31 (laughs)

37:31 (laughs)

Freddie Gibbs 37:31 ... to national security. Bro, what the fuck?

Guest 37:34 That nigga fat as fuck.

Freddie Gibbs 37:35 It's so crazy.

Guest 37:36 He's a threat.

37:37 Can he still, can he still fight like that?

Freddie Gibbs 37:39 What he does is a thing called Aikido, and it's a very unusual martial art in that it's really designed for samurais to fight someone with a sword.

Guest 37:48 Mm.

Freddie Gibbs 37:49 So if you lose your sw- your sword in combat ... This is the origins of it.

Guest 37:52 Okay.

Freddie Gibbs 37:53 If you lose your sword and you come after a dude who knows Aikido, he tries to transfer the energy of your attack and counter-

Guest 38:00 Like inertia?

Freddie Gibbs 38:00 ... and throw you. Just like throws, and trips-

Guest 38:03 Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 38:04 ... and a lot of clothesline stuff. And Steven Seagal, Steven Seagal adopted it to movies-

Guest 38:08 Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 38:08 ... and made it very fun.

Guest 38:09 'Cause it did seem like a lot of motherfuckers that was fighting him was like running into him and just-

Freddie Gibbs 38:13 Of course.

Guest 38:13 ... getting fucked up.

Freddie Gibbs 38:14 Of course, but that was a move.

Guest 38:15 See he had to choreograph that.

38:15 (laughs)

Freddie Gibbs 38:15 You know, it was a move. A lot of their stuff was choreographed unfortunately, but there is some legitimacy to some of their movements. There's some legitimacy to these wrist locks, and controlling arms, and throwing people. The problem is it won't work on someone who's like a really good wrestler. It's like, i- it's like one of those things where you get really good at and be an expert at it, but you still won't be as good as an expert at another martial art. This is Steven Seagal. Steven Seagal was a legit Aikido black belt.

Guest 38:42 (laughs)

Freddie Gibbs 38:42 But like, look at this, look at this guy's attack.

Guest 38:44 Right.

Freddie Gibbs 38:44 And then he was just throwing him to the ground. Let me tell you something, if Daniel Cormier shot in on that dude and got a hold of his legs ...

Guest 38:49 He'd crush him.

Freddie Gibbs 38:50 He would hoist him up in the air and drop him on his head 100% of the time.

Guest 38:54 Right.

Freddie Gibbs 38:54 The, the difference between what he's doing, and he's a master at Aikido.

Guest 38:57 I mean, he really is.

Freddie Gibbs 38:58 He's a master.

Guest 38:58 Damn.

Freddie Gibbs 38:59 But the difference is, it's not as good or, uh, is not as effective a martial art as wrestling, or as judo, or as jujitsu. It's a, an interesting martial art. But when it comes to like being able to take people down, nobody can fuck with judo when it comes to like with the gi grabbing-

Guest 39:15 Why ain't nobody throwing no motherfucking punches?

Freddie Gibbs 39:17 ... sleeves and throwing. And when it comes to like taking people down, you know, just double legs and single legs, no one can fuck with wrestlers. So you have no one can fuck with the throws of judo guys, no one can fuck with the take downs of wrestlers versus this. It's not a bad thing to learn, it's interesting, it's good for your health. You get some exercise in.

Guest 39:35 I mean sure but yeah, that, that looked crazy. Come on now.

Freddie Gibbs 39:37 It's not funny.

Guest 39:38 It's not realistic.

39:39 You know what I mean? That shit did look like shit. (laughs) I would've ran up on that nigga and fucked his ass up.

39:42 (laughs)

Freddie Gibbs 39:42 Yeah, yeah. Oh yeah, yeah. Yeah, now show us some like, hey, somebody getting jumped into a gang. Like, like let's see somebody getting jumped.

Guest 39:46 Oh.

Freddie Gibbs 39:47 But this ... But let me tell you something, he does know how to strike a little bit.

Guest 39:50 Okay.

Freddie Gibbs 39:50 Like-

Guest 39:50 Damn.

Freddie Gibbs 39:51 Aikido does have ... He does. Steven Seagal does. Like no, no bullshit-

Guest 39:55 Oh.

Freddie Gibbs 39:55 ... he knows how to clo- he does got ... There's a lot of it-

Guest 39:58 Okay, Steven Seagal-

Freddie Gibbs 39:58 ... is kind of nonsensical.

Guest 39:59 I'm talking shit. Now don't fuck me up. I was talking shit man.

Freddie Gibbs 40:01 He ... Also he's a big fucking dude.

Guest 40:03 He is. He's 6'4"?

Freddie Gibbs 40:04 He's 100 years old. He's 100 years old.

Guest 40:06 Okay. (laughs)

Freddie Gibbs 40:07 But he's-

Guest 40:08 Oh, shit.

Freddie Gibbs 40:08 ... he's a big dude.

Guest 40:09 Also, he know how to block all the punches and all that.

Freddie Gibbs 40:11 He knows how to do a lot. Like no ... You ... Just because someone's s- kind of funny. He's kind of funny, he's, you know, he's kind of a character, right?

Guest 40:19 A karate Phil Jackson. Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 40:20 He's kind of a karate, uh, uh, uh, kind of like a m- m- traditional martial arts character. But he still is a l- legit martial artist.

Guest 40:29 Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 40:29 Even though he's kind of funny-

Guest 40:30 I mean-

Freddie Gibbs 40:30 ... he does a lot of wacky movies and shit. At the end of ... He's, but he's a ... He runs weird.

Guest 40:34 He inspired a whole generation, bro.

Freddie Gibbs 40:36 He's a leg- Bro, he ... I've loved him-

Guest 40:37 DC is here because of Steven Seagal.

40:38 Yeah, I love Steven Seagal.

40:39 Above the Law.

Freddie Gibbs 40:39 ... in Above the Law.

Guest 40:40 Above the Law?

Freddie Gibbs 40:41 I loved him in that movie.

Guest 40:43 Hard to Kill, Above the Law.

40:43 Hard to Kill.

Freddie Gibbs 40:44 Oh my God. But Above the Law was the first time you saw what I thought was like realistic fight scenes. He was young.

Guest 40:50 Mm-hmm.

Freddie Gibbs 40:50 He could f- ... When he fucked people up in the bar with pool sticks-

Guest 40:53 Right.

Freddie Gibbs 40:53 ... and pool balls.

Guest 40:54 Mm-hmm.

Freddie Gibbs 40:54 Like that was realistic.

Guest 40:55 We all loved it.

40:56 What was the one, he was fighting Jamaicans? Screwface? (sighs)

Freddie Gibbs 41:00 Look, he was this interesting-

Guest 41:03 What was that?

Freddie Gibbs 41:03 ... weird looking guy.

Guest 41:04 Damn.

41:05 There we go.

41:05 That was one of my favorite ones.

Freddie Gibbs 41:06 Look at the difference, man. He was so thin back then. But like this shit seemed ...

Guest 41:11 Ugh. (laughs)

Freddie Gibbs 41:12 It seemed at least partially believable. Like he seems like a guy who really does understand-

Guest 41:19 Oh yeah, bro.

Freddie Gibbs 41:19 ... martial arts movements. And they're, they're much more realistic than say like a dude doing a jumping sidekick-

Guest 41:25 Ah!

Freddie Gibbs 41:25 ... to one dude's face or kicking two dudes at the same time, doing the splits. Like we were used to that. We were seeing a lot of that in like Jackie Chan-

Guest 41:32 Right.

Freddie Gibbs 41:32 ... movies. And it was fun and everything, right?

Guest 41:35 Oh, brought a lot of father and sons together.

Freddie Gibbs 41:36 Yeah.

Guest 41:36 You know?

Freddie Gibbs 41:37 A lot of father and sons together.

Guest 41:38 Yeah, yeah. Me and my pops, he, we loved this kind of shit.

Freddie Gibbs 41:39 Chuck Norris movies are the shit.

Guest 41:41 Oh yeah.

41:41 (laughs)

Freddie Gibbs 41:42 I loved all those movies.

Guest 41:43 Right.

Freddie Gibbs 41:43 All the Bruce Lee movies, of course.

Guest 41:44 Jackie Chan came through. Bruce Lee, obviously.

Freddie Gibbs 41:46 But what he did was made shit where it was like it was a little more believable that he was fucking these guys up.

Guest 41:52 Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 41:52 In my eye, as a lifelong martial artist, in my eyes, I was like, "This is all real."

Guest 41:57 Right.

Freddie Gibbs 41:57 "This could go down this way."

Guest 41:58 Okay.

Freddie Gibbs 41:58 The way he fucked these guys up. And also, he looks like a mean bitch, right?

Guest 42:02 Right.

42:02 He does, yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 42:02 He looks mean.

Guest 42:03 When you're fucking with him, yeah.

42:03 He looked mean as fuck.

Freddie Gibbs 42:04 When he was young and thin, Steven Seagal looked mean as fuck.

Guest 42:07 He did.

Freddie Gibbs 42:07 And I believed it.

Guest 42:09 I believe.

Freddie Gibbs 42:09 When he was fucking guys up, it wasn't like Pierce Brosnan head kicking people. You know what I'm saying?

Guest 42:13 Yeah, that was fake.

Freddie Gibbs 42:14 Yeah, you ... I'm watching this guy, I'm like, "This is a guy who knows how to fuck people up."

Guest 42:16 Like real John Wick shit.

42:17 Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 42:17 I'm looking in his eyes. Like y- you look in Bruce Lee's eyes, you look in Chuck Norris' eyes.

Guest 42:22 Right.

Freddie Gibbs 42:22 Those are people that really know how to fuck people up.

Guest 42:24 They really know how to fuck people up.

Freddie Gibbs 42:24 You can see it in their eyes.

Guest 42:25 Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 42:26 And I can see it in his eyes. He knows how to fuck people up. I mean, it's ...

Joe Rogan 42:29 ... Jean-Claude Van Damme.

Freddie Gibbs 42:31 He knows how to fuck people up.

Joe Rogan 42:32 Yeah.

Guest 42:32 Definitely.

Freddie Gibbs 42:32 Jean-Claude Van Damme was a legit martial artist.

Guest 42:34 I love Jean-Claude Van Damme.

Joe Rogan 42:34 I love Jean-Claude Van Damme.

Freddie Gibbs 42:34 Absolute legit martial artist.

Joe Rogan 42:36 So those four, basically, then?

Freddie Gibbs 42:37 There's, uh, quite a few of them, man. You know?

Joe Rogan 42:40 Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 42:40 Michael Jai White is-

Joe Rogan 42:41 Michael Jai White is a beast.

Guest 42:42 Michael Jai White.

Freddie Gibbs 42:42 ... absolutely legit. Uh, Michael Jai White broke the chain on the heavy bag at Legends Gym in Hollywood.

Joe Rogan 42:48 Hell yeah.

Guest 42:48 Damn.

Freddie Gibbs 42:48 He asked Eddie Bravo, or Eddie Bravo'd rather ask him to demonstrate, uh, w- the way he does a sidekick. This dude does a sidekick, a hopping sidekick, slams it into the bag, the bag goes ka-chink against the chain-

Joe Rogan 43:01 Damn.

Freddie Gibbs 43:01 ... and the chain snaps.

Joe Rogan 43:02 That's real?

Freddie Gibbs 43:03 100% real. We were laughing, 'cause me and Eddie were like, "Dude, if this was a movie, and the guy came over, like the movie star is gonna demonstrate that he really knows karate-"

Guest 43:13 Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 43:14 "... and he does a kick and it breaks the bag, we'd be like, 'Get the fuck outta here with this movie.'"

Guest 43:17 Hey, that's what I'm saying.

Freddie Gibbs 43:18 And we, we were laughing our asses off. But, but he really did it.

Guest 43:21 Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 43:21 Michael Jai White, he has perfect technique. Perfect. The v- there's a bunch of demonstrations of him kicking online, but let me tell you something. The guy, guy has perfect technique. There's guys that maybe their knee is down too much, or maybe when they throw-

Joe Rogan 43:38 Man.

Freddie Gibbs 43:38 ... a ki- yeah, dude, I'm telling you.

Guest 43:40 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 43:40 Oh, my God.

Freddie Gibbs 43:40 Perfect technique. Everything he does, 100% hip engagement, you know, like, when-

Joe Rogan 43:47 Underrated, underrated.

Freddie Gibbs 43:47 ... he, when you watch him hit the bag... Remember when he played Tyson?

Joe Rogan 43:50 Dawg, I was about to say, that was my favorite role he ever did.

Guest 43:52 Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 43:52 Pretty fucking good, man.

Guest 43:52 He, he played good.

Freddie Gibbs 43:53 Pretty fuck- or Spawn.

Guest 43:54 Spawn, yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 43:54 Remember he played Spawn?

Joe Rogan 43:55 Spawn, right, right, right.

Guest 43:56 He was amazing as Spawn.

Freddie Gibbs 43:57 He was amazing in Spawn.

Guest 43:57 But Tyson, they should bring back Michael Jai White.

Joe Rogan 44:00 But Tyson, that's my, that's my favorite Michael Jai White. Oh, they gonna bring that thing back, for sure.

Freddie Gibbs 44:01 They should bring him back as Spawn.

Guest 44:03 Word.

Freddie Gibbs 44:03 But he, but he has a bunch of videos of him demonstrating martial arts online. He even did, like, a thing with Kimbo. They were working on a movie together-

Guest 44:09 Oh.

Freddie Gibbs 44:09 ... and he was explaining something to Kimbo about telegraphing things, and Kimbo was, you could tell, Kimbo was like, "Oh, shit." It wasn't just like an actor was fucking around.

Joe Rogan 44:18 Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 44:18 It was like, "Oh, this guy's legit." I've watched him, man. I'm telling you.

Joe Rogan 44:22 I wouldn't...

Freddie Gibbs 44:22 I, I know legit martial artists.

Joe Rogan 44:24 What about Wesley Snipes?

Freddie Gibbs 44:24 Michael Jai White, very legit.

Joe Rogan 44:26 Word?

Freddie Gibbs 44:27 Wesley Snipes very legit.

Joe Rogan 44:28 Is Wesley Snipes-

Freddie Gibbs 44:28 Very legit standup. Very legit standup. 100% black belt level standup.

Joe Rogan 44:32 Let's go.

Freddie Gibbs 44:33 Like, you watch him fuck people up in, in, um, Blade.

Joe Rogan 44:36 Blade, yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 44:36 That's 100% Wesley Snipes.

Joe Rogan 44:37 Yeah, he went hard, though.

Guest 44:38 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 44:39 I mean, yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 44:39 No, he's good.

Joe Rogan 44:39 Okay.

Freddie Gibbs 44:40 But Michael Jai White had a bunch of fights.

Joe Rogan 44:42 What?

Freddie Gibbs 44:42 Michael Jai White had a bunch of sh- yeah, he had a bunch of Kyokushin fights. Michael Jai White is legit. And you watch him, like, move around. Is that him with Jo- Josh Barnett?

Guest 44:51 Cowboy. I mean, Cowboy.

Freddie Gibbs 44:52 Oh, that's, that's Cowboy?

Guest 44:53 I thought they were really going after him, but they weren't really, really.

Joe Rogan 44:55 Dog, has he been on the podcast?

Freddie Gibbs 44:56 No, he hasn't. I definitely have him on, though. I did a thing with him, like, back in the day. In, like, 1994 I was hosting, I was a guest host of Later. Remember Bob Costas had Later?

Joe Rogan 45:06 No.

Freddie Gibbs 45:06 And I got, I got him out as, on as a guest-

Joe Rogan 45:08 Okay.

Freddie Gibbs 45:08 ... 'cause I wa- I wanted to talk to him.

Joe Rogan 45:10 In '94?

Freddie Gibbs 45:11 Oh, dude, it was back in the diz-ay. It might've been '95.

Joe Rogan 45:14 Damn.

Freddie Gibbs 45:14 Um, maybe, might've been even '96, but it was in the '90s. Like, so it was like, I think he was right when he was doing the Tyson movie and was asking about, like, what... 'Cause, you know, in '96, Tyson was still young and terrifying.

Joe Rogan 45:25 Right.

Guest 45:25 Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 45:25 That was a risky time to play him in a movie.

Joe Rogan 45:28 Yeah.

Guest 45:28 Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 45:28 You know?

Joe Rogan 45:29 Dog, yeah, I, I said this on the podcast before-

Guest 45:31 He could be.

Joe Rogan 45:31 ... I met Tyson once at Roscoe's Chicken and Waffles.

Guest 45:33 Didn't, didn't Jamie Foxx play Tyson?

Joe Rogan 45:34 And he was looking at my moms.

Freddie Gibbs 45:36 Jamie Foxx is gonna play Tyson.

Joe Rogan 45:37 Yeah, ain't he gonna play Tyson?

Freddie Gibbs 45:38 In another movie.

Joe Rogan 45:38 Oh, is it?

Freddie Gibbs 45:39 Yeah, they're, he's, he's apparently bulking up right now.

Joe Rogan 45:41 All right. I mean, he does do the best Tyson impersonation.

Freddie Gibbs 45:44 He does the best everybody impersonation.

Joe Rogan 45:45 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 45:46 Jamie Foxx can do some fucking impersonations.

Joe Rogan 45:49 He, he's good.

Freddie Gibbs 45:49 He, he's one of those dudes that just has too much talent.

Joe Rogan 45:51 Yeah.

Guest 45:51 He's so good.

Freddie Gibbs 45:51 He does so many things.

Guest 45:53 A lot of things.

Joe Rogan 45:53 Yeah, legend.

Guest 45:54 That's what I'm saying, man. You can't just, like, confine yourself to just, you know, music, you know?

Freddie Gibbs 45:58 Yeah.

Guest 45:58 And I look at guys like Jamie Foxx and see that, you know what I mean? I've, I've, I've been looking at him since In Living Color, and he was a, you know, a, a versatile superstar.

Joe Rogan 46:07 Sketch actor, standup.

Guest 46:08 He could do anything. Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 46:09 There's certain dudes that can do anything.

Guest 46:11 Right.

Freddie Gibbs 46:11 You know, there's certain guys that, like, if they wanted to just play piano professionally.

Joe Rogan 46:14 Yo, I Might Need Security is, like, it's, it's a top 10 for me, like, s- comedy special. You ever see it? Jamie Foxx?

Freddie Gibbs 46:20 No, I haven't seen that one.

Joe Rogan 46:21 I Might Need Security, young Jamie.

Freddie Gibbs 46:22 What year was that?

Joe Rogan 46:24 Early 2000s, maybe?

Guest 46:26 Oh.

Joe Rogan 46:26 Late '90s.

Freddie Gibbs 46:26 Maybe 2000?

Joe Rogan 46:27 Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 46:27 Maybe then.

Guest 46:27 Mm.

Joe Rogan 46:28 It's got a LL Cool J story in it.

Freddie Gibbs 46:30 Wow.

Joe Rogan 46:30 Oh, dog, he is... I mean, I Might Need Security, bro, that was, that was a hood classic.

Freddie Gibbs 46:34 He was a fun guy to have on the podcast because Jamie Foxx is a giant movie star, but-

Joe Rogan 46:39 Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 46:39 ... he acts like a total normal person.

Joe Rogan 46:41 Yeah.

Guest 46:41 And he got dope... He got classic albums, too.

Freddie Gibbs 46:43 He can take his ass off.

Joe Rogan 46:44 True.

Guest 46:45 Yeah, he got dope albums.

Freddie Gibbs 46:45 He could sing his ass off.

Joe Rogan 46:47 And an Oscar. (laughs)

Freddie Gibbs 46:48 Oh, my God.

Guest 46:49 You know another comedian that make-

Freddie Gibbs 46:50 What the fuck?

Guest 46:51 ... dope music? Lil Duval.

Joe Rogan 46:52 Lil Duval.

Freddie Gibbs 46:53 Oh.

Joe Rogan 46:53 That's your mans, bro.

Guest 46:54 Yeah, yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 46:54 I love Lil Duval.

Joe Rogan 46:55 We got some legends.

Freddie Gibbs 46:56 I love Lil Duval.

Guest 46:56 His new song, I just heard that shit hard as fuck, man.

Freddie Gibbs 46:59 Yeah.

Guest 46:59 I love Lil Duval.

Joe Rogan 47:01 (laughs)

Guest 47:01 That guy's a legend.

Joe Rogan 47:02 He's hilarious. He, you know he has-

Guest 47:03 Legend.

Joe Rogan 47:03 ... two planes?

Guest 47:05 He has two planes?

Freddie Gibbs 47:05 He flies around his own planes. He flies his own fucking planes.

Joe Rogan 47:08 Dope shit for a-

Guest 47:09 Yo.

Freddie Gibbs 47:09 Yeah.

Guest 47:10 Duval.

Freddie Gibbs 47:10 He's like, "That's real freedom."

Guest 47:11 Legend, yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 47:12 He flies his own fucking planes.

Guest 47:14 That's crazy.

Joe Rogan 47:15 That's smart.

Freddie Gibbs 47:16 Fuck yeah, it's smart.

Joe Rogan 47:16 (laughs) You know what I mean?

Freddie Gibbs 47:17 I'm, I'm-

Joe Rogan 47:17 No paper, yeah, no paper flights no more.

Freddie Gibbs 47:19 Learning how to fly your own fucking plane?

Joe Rogan 47:21 Put it... Yeah, yeah, put it in your own hands. Isn't, like, Burr, like, uh, he's, like, learning how to fly helicopters?

Freddie Gibbs 47:26 100%, I went up with him.

Joe Rogan 47:27 Yeah, exactly.

Freddie Gibbs 47:27 He took me up around downtown LA.

Joe Rogan 47:29 I'm straight on-

Freddie Gibbs 47:30 It's like, this is wild.

Guest 47:30 I'm straight on helicopter.

Joe Rogan 47:32 Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 47:32 Well, apparently they know how to, like...

Guest 47:35 Rest in peace, Kobe.

Freddie Gibbs 47:36 They know how to get him down- The thing about that was that he should've never flown, that Kobe Bryant clash, uh, crash.

Guest 47:42 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 47:42 Mm-hmm.

Freddie Gibbs 47:42 Apparently that guy... There was a marine layer that was really low. Bill explained the whole thing to me, 'cause Bill Burr is a legit pilot-

Joe Rogan 47:49 Right.

Freddie Gibbs 47:49 ... and he said, "You, you'd never take a helicopter out in that weather."

Guest 47:52 Mm-hmm.

Freddie Gibbs 47:52 "You don't have any instrumentation." Like, what, you, you can't do that. Like, you-

Guest 47:55 There it goes.

Freddie Gibbs 47:55 You can't see what's in front of you-

Guest 47:57 Right.

Freddie Gibbs 47:57 ... in terms of, like, instrumentation, like, you don't see where the fucking mountain is. Slammed right into the fucking mountain.

Joe Rogan 48:02 Right.

Guest 48:02 Right.

Joe Rogan 48:03 But it's also, like, you know, it's, it's Kobe and he's like, "I gotta get there." You know what I mean?

Freddie Gibbs 48:07 Yeah, but you gotta-

Joe Rogan 48:07 And, and, and the arrogance of that pilot.

Freddie Gibbs 48:08 ... you gotta tell a guy like Kobe-

Joe Rogan 48:09 Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 48:09 You gotta... That's gotta be so hard.

Guest 48:12 He's gotta be like, "Hey, man, we can't go up, man."

Joe Rogan 48:14 But this pilot's supposed to be, like, one of the best, uh, I mean, he's fucking-

Freddie Gibbs 48:16 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:16 ... one of the best helicopter pilots in the world, they were saying, right?

Freddie Gibbs 48:18 You know what, man? To, to have a guy like Kobe in your fucking helicopter is probably so weird. You wanna do whatever he wants.

Joe Rogan 48:24 E- Whatever, yeah, you're like, "You know what? I can make it."

Freddie Gibbs 48:26 Whatever he wants.

Joe Rogan 48:26 "I've done this before. I've seen thick marine layer like this." It's, there's an arrogance of the pilot being like, "I can get this."

Freddie Gibbs 48:31 Yeah.

Guest 48:31 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:32 And then you forget, like, oh...... I can kill a lot of people here.

Guest 48:36 Yeah, there's kids involved, man.

Joe Rogan 48:37 (laughs)

Guest 48:37 You should have sat your ass down, man. But it's all good though, man. Rest in peace, Kobe.

Joe Rogan 48:40 It's tragic shit, bro. Buddy Holly, shit.

Freddie Gibbs 48:42 It's the most tragic.

Joe Rogan 48:44 Mm-hmm, the most.

Freddie Gibbs 48:46 When, when someone dies, like, with their kid on the way to a game, 'cause you just wanna support them and you think it'd be fun to take a helicopter together... But he loved helicopters, right? Didn't he travel from where he lived to the, where the Lakers-

Guest 48:57 Mm-hmm.

Freddie Gibbs 48:57 ... played and everything by helicopter? He did a lot of that then.

Joe Rogan 49:00 He just had dough, yeah. (laughs)

Freddie Gibbs 49:01 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 49:02 It's the quickest way because there's traffic in LA. I mean, it's, it's, it's perfect.

Freddie Gibbs 49:05 Dennis Miller-

Guest 49:06 It's genius.

Freddie Gibbs 49:06 ... used to do that. Dennis Miller-

Guest 49:07 Really?

Freddie Gibbs 49:07 Yeah. He did a show, and d- when he did his show, he would fly in, in a helicopter. And then one time the helicopter, I think... I, I'm, I'm not speaking out of turn here, I hope. But, uh, one time I think he had a issue. He was like, "Fuck helicopters."

Guest 49:20 Mm-hmm.

Freddie Gibbs 49:20 'Cause, like, all it takes is one, one... (imitating helicopter)

Joe Rogan 49:25 And we all forget that part, right? (imitating helicopter)

Guest 49:26 I was in, I was just, I was just in Miami a couple, uh, weeks ago and a helicopter crashed in the fucking, uh, on the beach.

Freddie Gibbs 49:31 Oh, my God.

Guest 49:31 It's on YouTube.

Freddie Gibbs 49:33 Yeah.

Guest 49:33 Some motherfucker crashed on the fucking beach.

Freddie Gibbs 49:34 When I was in Hawaii, I took a helicopter-

Guest 49:36 (laughs)

Freddie Gibbs 49:36 ... over the volcanoes.

Guest 49:38 Oh, no.

Freddie Gibbs 49:38 That's a terrifying feeling, 'cause like-

Guest 49:40 Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 49:40 ... if this thing drops into the volcano...

Joe Rogan 49:42 You have no control.

Freddie Gibbs 49:43 ... you just melt.

Guest 49:43 Yeah, oh my God.

Joe Rogan 49:45 Damn.

Freddie Gibbs 49:45 You melt with the helicopter.

Guest 49:47 (laughs)

Freddie Gibbs 49:47 That's-

Guest 49:47 So there's just lava sitting in the volcano?

Freddie Gibbs 49:49 Just lava-

Guest 49:49 Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 49:49 ... spilling out into the ocean, creating more of Hawaii. You could watch Hawaii being built in real time.

Guest 49:55 Also when it erupts-

Freddie Gibbs 49:56 Or, yeah.

Guest 49:57 ... the... When it erupts-

Freddie Gibbs 49:58 Mm-hmm.

Guest 49:58 ... the, uh, all the land. Oh, that's crazy.

Freddie Gibbs 50:00 Oh, yeah. Well, it erupted, uh, just a couple of years ago on the Big Island. Remember? There was a video of a car getting destroyed by lava. Someone had parked their Mustang, and the lava, it at least comes slow. That's the only good thing.

Guest 50:12 Yeah, that's the only good thing about it, it's slow as fuck, but-

Freddie Gibbs 50:14 It's slow as fuck.

Joe Rogan 50:15 That what just happened to Tonga?

Guest 50:16 Look at this shit.

Freddie Gibbs 50:17 What is this?

Guest 50:17 It's the helicopter in Miami.

Freddie Gibbs 50:19 Oh my God, it's gonna crash right there in the water.

Joe Rogan 50:21 Bro.

Guest 50:21 I was out there, I was like, "Uh-oh."

Freddie Gibbs 50:22 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 50:23 Oh, man.

Freddie Gibbs 50:24 Oh, look at the splash.

Joe Rogan 50:25 No.

Freddie Gibbs 50:25 Oh my God, it almost hit that dude.

Guest 50:27 They lived though.

Joe Rogan 50:28 Did they? Okay. That's why, yeah, that's why you're trying to get in the water.

Freddie Gibbs 50:30 Well, that's, that's the help, the water.

Guest 50:33 (laughs) Yeah, they lived though, but that was fucked up.

Joe Rogan 50:34 Wait, didn't that, didn't that volcano shit just happen to, like, Tonga? It was just, like, it, like, blew, like, part of the island off.

Freddie Gibbs 50:39 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 50:39 Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 50:39 Tonga's a scary spot, man.

Guest 50:41 It blew part of the island off.

Freddie Gibbs 50:42 There's a-

Guest 50:43 It blew part of the island off. It was like a, like a, how many ton, like, mega-w- like megaton explosion.

Freddie Gibbs 50:49 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 50:49 Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 50:49 Huge. You could see it under... from the, from space in the ocean.

Guest 50:52 Right.

Freddie Gibbs 50:53 It's an enor- enormous explosion. Did you see that?

Joe Rogan 50:56 I mean, yeah, we did see people die.

Freddie Gibbs 50:57 I mean, did you see it in space?

Guest 50:58 Yeah, they like-

Freddie Gibbs 50:58 No.

Guest 50:58 Huh?

Freddie Gibbs 50:59 I don't think people died in that one.

Joe Rogan 51:00 Uh, the underwater one.

Freddie Gibbs 51:01 The water one, the ocean one, I don't think they died-

Guest 51:02 No, no, no, no.

Freddie Gibbs 51:02 ... in the ocean one.

Guest 51:03 I don't think so.

Freddie Gibbs 51:03 'Cause it all hap- it happened in the middle of the ocean.

Guest 51:05 Yeah, it was underwater as well.

Joe Rogan 51:06 Oh.

Guest 51:06 Yeah, it was like, it's, it was close enough to this explosion.

Freddie Gibbs 51:08 Is it... Are we talking about the same one?

Guest 51:09 Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 51:10 The sh-

Guest 51:10 It's an underwater, uh, volcano, right?

Freddie Gibbs 51:12 Yeah. I th- yeah.

Guest 51:12 Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 51:12 The underwater volcano that you could see from space.

Guest 51:14 And it blew off part of the island.

Freddie Gibbs 51:15 Yeah.

Guest 51:16 Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 51:16 You could see it from space.

Guest 51:17 That is nuts.

Freddie Gibbs 51:18 Look at this. That's from space. Just a random explosion.

Guest 51:22 Dog, that's underwater, man.

Freddie Gibbs 51:24 So here's the crazy thing.

Guest 51:25 How do you think that came from underwater?

Freddie Gibbs 51:26 There was a, a thing, I think it was called the Toba volcano. Is that what it is, Jamie in Indonesia?

Guest 51:32 It's like the same spot. It's almost the same spot.

Freddie Gibbs 51:34 Same spot, right?

Guest 51:35 It's just a little bit right up here.

Freddie Gibbs 51:35 So that area-

Guest 51:37 The largest.

Freddie Gibbs 51:37 ... is responsible for an eruption, a volcanic eruption that occurred somewhere around 70,000 years ago that almost wiped out the entire human race.

Guest 51:46 What?

Freddie Gibbs 51:46 It brought the entire human race down to about 7,000 people.

Joe Rogan 51:50 What year was this?

Freddie Gibbs 51:51 This was about 70,000 years ago.

Joe Rogan 51:53 Okay.

Freddie Gibbs 51:53 So 70,000 years ago, everyone you know, everyone on this fucking planet-

Joe Rogan 51:58 Right.

Freddie Gibbs 51:58 ... came from these f- few thousand people that survived. They don't know exactly how many, but they estimate it could be as low as 7,000 people. But-

Joe Rogan 52:07 Wow.

Freddie Gibbs 52:08 ... mostly decimated the population of Earth.

Guest 52:11 From that? Okay.

Freddie Gibbs 52:11 From a giant volcano that spewed ash into the sky, killed all the vegetation, killed-

Guest 52:17 Wait a minute.

Freddie Gibbs 52:17 ... all the sunlight.

Joe Rogan 52:18 Only 7,000 people?

Freddie Gibbs 52:20 Only 7,000 people.

Joe Rogan 52:21 So how does race even exist then? Because that, that's your human race right there, right?

Freddie Gibbs 52:24 'Cause it's all bullshit. It's all where we live. If you live in Africa, you're gonna get darker skin slowly over time.

Joe Rogan 52:30 Right.

Freddie Gibbs 52:30 If you live in Europe, you're gonna need more vitamin D. You can only get it from the sun. There's no fucking sun, so you get paler and paler and paler-

Joe Rogan 52:37 Right.

Freddie Gibbs 52:37 ... generation after generation.

Joe Rogan 52:37 So there's more of an ethnicity and a, and a regional or a cultural thing, so it's not even... So it... Whatever the social consequences is-

Freddie Gibbs 52:43 We just look different.

Joe Rogan 52:43 Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 52:43 That's all it is.

Joe Rogan 52:44 Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 52:44 We just look different. We're the same exact 100% thing. It's not like a wolf is trying to have sex with a cat. W- we're, we are-

Joe Rogan 52:52 (laughs)

Freddie Gibbs 52:52 You know what I'm saying? There's one race. We just look different because we have different genetics, 'cause we came from different parts of the world.

Joe Rogan 52:58 Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 52:58 That's all it is.

Guest 52:59 That's what it is.

Joe Rogan 53:00 My nigga said that shit louder. Tell... Hey, where's that compilation at?

Freddie Gibbs 53:02 But it's just so confusing to people.

Guest 53:04 (laughs) Look at Joe Rogan out here saying there's only... Hey, human race, human race.

Freddie Gibbs 53:08 But that is all we... but, but this is, like, 100% accurate. You know, I'm a mutt. I'm a mix of a bunch of shit, but it's mostly Italians. And then I've got, like, some Irish people in there and some African, and I got some, uh, some Asia. A little bit of Asia in there.

Joe Rogan 53:22 Okay.

Freddie Gibbs 53:22 But it's like we're all some weird cross of all these people that started out in some spot-

Guest 53:28 Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 53:28 ... and had to survive massive cataclysmic disasters.

Guest 53:32 True.

Joe Rogan 53:32 I'm 98% Nigerian.

Freddie Gibbs 53:34 (laughs)

Guest 53:35 Whoa.

Joe Rogan 53:36 That's what the 23andMe niggas told me. I don't know, nigga.

Freddie Gibbs 53:39 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 53:39 I could be some other shit. Who knows?

Freddie Gibbs 53:41 Yeah, they say, uh-

Joe Rogan 53:42 I think niggas was here-

Freddie Gibbs 53:43 ... Jamaican and Native American.

Joe Rogan 53:44 I think some niggas was here in America before we... before slavery. I think we was here already.

Freddie Gibbs 53:47 That's what Hotep Jesus believes.

Guest 53:49 Yeah, I believe that.

Freddie Gibbs 53:49 Yeah, Hotep Jesus was telling me that on my podcast, and I was like, "Well, why not?" People traveled from everywhere.

Guest 53:55 Well, the first ship builders, they said they were Africans.

Freddie Gibbs 53:58 Were they really?

Guest 53:59 Yeah, you can look that one up, yeah. First ship builders were Africans.

Freddie Gibbs 54:00 Well, that makes sense 'cause Egypt's in Africa, man.

Guest 54:02 Right, they used to build-

Freddie Gibbs 54:03 I mean, it's not a-

Guest 54:03 ... ships for everybody.

Freddie Gibbs 54:04 Yeah.

Guest 54:04 Right?

Freddie Gibbs 54:05 Yeah. Yeah. And then, uh-

Joe Rogan 54:06 So if a nigga had a ship, a nigga could go any fucking way he wanted. So if you look at some of the old Olmecs, they had huge noses.

Freddie Gibbs 54:12 Exactly. Exactly.

Guest 54:12 I mean, they... (laughs)

Freddie Gibbs 54:13 No, look at... Let's pull that up. Pull up an image of the Olmec. The Olmec look absolutely African in their features.

Guest 54:19 Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 54:19 Absolutely. And the Olmec, they don't even know who the fuck they were.

Guest 54:23 Exactly, so-

Freddie Gibbs 54:24 And this, you know, the Olmec were here like 6,000 years ago or something crazy like that. They, they don't even know who they were. Look at that. Come on.

Guest 54:29 See what I mean?

Freddie Gibbs 54:30 Look at those, look at those pictures.

Guest 54:30 Those are, those are black people?

Joe Rogan 54:31 Them is niggas.

Guest 54:32 (laughs) I know that nigga right there, actually.

Joe Rogan 54:34 I know that nigga. I know him, man.

Freddie Gibbs 54:35 Nah. You know what he could be though? Polynesian, Samoan.

Guest 54:38 Right.

Freddie Gibbs 54:39 Like Samoan folks.

Guest 54:40 Right.

Freddie Gibbs 54:40 There's a lot of Samoan guys who look like that.

Guest 54:42 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 54:42 Yeah, me too. Them niggas too.

Freddie Gibbs 54:43 You know? There's a... There was a lot of, like, warrior people.

Guest 54:46 Absolutely.

Freddie Gibbs 54:46 I mean, if you wanna look at it like that.

Guest 54:48 I mean, that looks like Biggie Smalls. Come on, now.

Freddie Gibbs 54:49 Warrior genetics.

Joe Rogan 54:51 Bro, look at, that's me right there.

Freddie Gibbs 54:53 That guy looks like a warrior. Whoever that... I mean, look at those faces.

Joe Rogan 54:56 Yeah, that's what I'm talkin' about. Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 54:56 Those faces, those sculpted, those are warrior faces. So, what, whoever those folks were, what, whatever they represented, they don't even know what the culture was. They don't know anything about them.

Joe Rogan 55:05 Yeah. It's like, yeah. You know, there, you're right about the Samoan thing 'cause there's a lot of, there's like-

Freddie Gibbs 55:08 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 55:09 ... features of that.

Freddie Gibbs 55:09 Polynesia.

Joe Rogan 55:10 A lot of it, yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 55:10 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 55:10 Absolutely.

Freddie Gibbs 55:11 Yeah. I mean, dude, just a lot of those guys were warriors. The guys who landed in Hawaii, think about this shit.

Joe Rogan 55:18 Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 55:19 They got on regular boats and made it across the ocean, and got lucky and found Hawaii. They didn't know where the fuck it was.

Joe Rogan 55:27 Dog.

Freddie Gibbs 55:27 Those people who landed in Hawaii, whatever, thousands of years ago-

Joe Rogan 55:31 Mm-hmm.

Freddie Gibbs 55:32 ... whenever they arrived, they had no idea where they were going.

Joe Rogan 55:35 Right, they just ran into it.

Freddie Gibbs 55:36 They had little boats, they didn't have like... I mean, by the s- they knew how to navigate using the stars and stuff like that-

Joe Rogan 55:40 Mm-hmm.

Freddie Gibbs 55:40 ... but when I say they had no idea where they were going, like, they didn't have maps.

Joe Rogan 55:43 Right.

Guest 55:44 Where did they come from?

Freddie Gibbs 55:45 Like, did they... 'Cause they-

Joe Rogan 55:45 Well, 'cause they're coming from, they're coming from the east, right?

Freddie Gibbs 55:47 ... tell from, topographically-

Guest 55:47 Topographical errors.

Joe Rogan 55:47 So they're going, you know-

Freddie Gibbs 55:48 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 55:48 ... it's not, it's not the Europeans coming from, you know, the east.

Guest 55:51 Right, where did they come from?

Joe Rogan 55:51 Where these guys are coming from, or the west.

Guest 55:53 Where they found all the people. They found Hawaii.

Freddie Gibbs 55:54 I think South Pacific, right?

Joe Rogan 55:56 Right, exactly.

Freddie Gibbs 55:56 That's where they. T- so, when they l- arrived in Hawaii, they, there was no one there. So they found this island that was essentially, you know, had some native life on it, a lot of fish on it, and they, they got there with no navigation systems, no YouTube videos to watch. And they, they set up shop-

Joe Rogan 56:16 Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 56:16 ... in paradise, thousands of years ago.

Joe Rogan 56:18 Yeah, and then Columbus came through and just raped, pillaged and, you know, gave them diseases.

Freddie Gibbs 56:21 Did he go to Hawaii? I don't think he went to Hawaii.

Guest 56:23 I don't think he went to Hawaii.

Joe Rogan 56:23 No, I'm saying, okay, you're right, you're right.

Freddie Gibbs 56:24 No, he went... No, he went to the Bahamas, right?

Joe Rogan 56:27 (laughs)

Guest 56:27 When did, when did America take over Hawaii?

Freddie Gibbs 56:30 Uh, I don't think that was until the 1900s, if I'm correct.

Joe Rogan 56:33 But also, how old is Hawaii, right?

Freddie Gibbs 56:35 Let me guess-

Joe Rogan 56:35 'Cause that comes from an underwater volcano too.

Freddie Gibbs 56:37 Let me guess.

Joe Rogan 56:37 You know what I mean? 'Cause it's an island in the middle of the ocean.

Guest 56:39 We had to... Exactly. But we had to invade that motherfucker, right?

Freddie Gibbs 56:42 I don't know how it went down.

Guest 56:43 Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 56:43 I don't know the history of how-

Guest 56:44 You didn't, we didn't just go to Hawaii and be like, "Hey, man, we, we want this."

Joe Rogan 56:47 Right.

Guest 56:47 "What y'all want?"

Joe Rogan 56:48 There's a treaty, right? Because obviously, what, Japan wanted to claim it.

Guest 56:51 Somebody died.

Joe Rogan 56:53 Somebody's dead.

Guest 56:53 Somebody died.

Joe Rogan 56:54 Somebody got killed.

Freddie Gibbs 56:54 Well, look at Pearl Harbor. That hurts.

Joe Rogan 56:56 That's what I'm saying, right. That was a conflict because-

Freddie Gibbs 56:58 They did, they attacked.

Joe Rogan 56:58 ... I think Japan, what-

Freddie Gibbs 56:59 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 56:59 ... did they own Hawaii at all?

Freddie Gibbs 57:01 I don't know when-

Joe Rogan 57:01 Did, did the east own Hawaii at all?

Freddie Gibbs 57:02 I think they were their own nation until people started figuring out they're there.

Joe Rogan 57:06 Right.

Freddie Gibbs 57:07 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 57:07 That's what I'm saying.

Freddie Gibbs 57:08 Right?

Joe Rogan 57:08 And we was like, "Hey."

Guest 57:09 "Don't tell nobody."

Joe Rogan 57:10 "Ah!"

Freddie Gibbs 57:10 Bro, when you go to Hawaii on vacation-

Joe Rogan 57:12 And you know what? And that, and Hawaii don't have a fuckin' army, so they was like, "Yo, we with y'all."

Freddie Gibbs 57:15 Exactly.

Joe Rogan 57:15 "We with y'all, diggas."

Guest 57:17 Right.

Freddie Gibbs 57:17 I fucking love Hawaii, I go there on vacation, I love it there.

Guest 57:20 Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 57:20 The people are the nicest people and there's some of the best fighters, like, so many-

Joe Rogan 57:24 Hawaii kicked me out, hey.

Freddie Gibbs 57:24 UFC fighters.

Guest 57:25 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 57:25 UFC fighters, Max Holloway.

Guest 57:26 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 57:26 Max Holloway. There's a ton of them that came from Hawaii.

Guest 57:28 Hawaii kicked me out. I went there with a bogus COVID test and them motherfuckers kicked me out the moment.

Freddie Gibbs 57:32 (laughs)

Guest 57:32 As soon as I got there, fuck Hawaii.

Freddie Gibbs 57:34 1784, chart of the Sandwich Islands by Captain James Cook. William Blind... So he was like, probably the guy who got there in the 1700s and found the Polynesian people. And, you know, they brought goats, they brought over pigs.

Guest 57:48 Yo.

Freddie Gibbs 57:48 They brought o- all the animals that were-

Guest 57:50 All the livestock, yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 57:50 ... other than, uh, the axis deer. The axis deer were actually given to King Kamehameha. Like, their, their, Hawaiian islands have a shitload of deer.

Guest 57:58 Yeah.

Freddie Gibbs 57:58 'Cause they were given there by the king of, uh, King Kamehameha. Of, so he, uh, brought them from, uh, India. But, uh-

Joe Rogan 58:05 Holloway owned hundreds.

Freddie Gibbs 58:05 ... these guys like Captain Cook, they would drop goats off on like, uh, an island.

Joe Rogan 58:09 How would they have known it was there in 1784?

Freddie Gibbs 58:12 Well, they probably had people that, they probably had drifters, crazy fucks that got on a boat and figured out how to get there, and could tell you what time of the year. Like, they knew basically, like, which way, you know, if you're following the stars and they had sextants. You know what a sextant is?

Joe Rogan 58:28 Mm-mm.

Freddie Gibbs 58:29 A sextant is this thing, it looks like a, like a measuring device. And they, they would use it to, to track the stars.

Guest 58:37 Mm-hmm.

Freddie Gibbs 58:37 See if you can find what a sextant looks like. They ha- I, I think they had those-

Joe Rogan 58:41 1700s, all right.

Freddie Gibbs 58:42 ... at those, at the time. Find out when the, when it was the sextant was made, too. But the sextant was a way, a primitive way to track