Joe Rogan Experience #1788 - Mr. Beast

Narrator 0:00 (drumbeats) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music plays)

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 0:12 Um, I've, I've done quite a few. I've never ... Okay. Here, hold up. Just talk to me for, like, a minute. I-

Joe Rogan 0:17 Okay.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 0:18 This is so freaky to me.

Joe Rogan 0:19 Is it really?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 0:19 Yeah, to hear my own voice.

Joe Rogan 0:20 Oh, we need to put this on the video.

Narrator 0:22 I mean, I'm recording it. I just need to turn on the microphone.

Joe Rogan 0:23 Okay, good. We're recording already.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 0:25 You ... Have you ever had a guest, like, freak out about that?

Joe Rogan 0:27 No, you're the first freak-out because of headphones.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 0:30 In tr- ... Not headphones.

Joe Rogan 0:31 Is it weird?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 0:31 No, it's 'cause I hear my own voice. I'm very conscious of, of, of that.

Joe Rogan 0:34 (laughs)

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 0:34 So now I'm like, "Fuck, my inflection or whatever-"

Joe Rogan 0:37 Mm.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 0:37 "... isn't, uh, f-"

Joe Rogan 0:39 Sounds fine.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 0:39 Okay. No, I know it sounds fine, it's just ... Fuck. Whatever, I'll suck it up.

Joe Rogan 0:43 (laughs)

Narrator 0:43 (laughs)

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 0:44 You don't have, like, a button you can press to kill it?

Joe Rogan 0:46 No. No, I-

Narrator 0:47 (laughs)

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 0:47 What the fuck?

Joe Rogan 0:48 So when you're playing video games, you don't hear yourself, right?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 0:49 No.

Joe Rogan 0:50 Yeah, I don't either, but... Yeah, I hear it's different. Sorry.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 0:52 Oh, well.

Joe Rogan 0:53 Yeah, well, don't worry about it, dude. That's what you sound like. Now you know.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 0:55 I, I, I mean, I've s- I've seen videos, I knew what I sound like.

Joe Rogan 0:58 (laughs)

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 0:58 Just in real time, hearing it. It sounds like I'm speaking to myself. Fuck it, I don't ... I don't give a shit.

Joe Rogan 1:02 But you're not, you're speaking to me. The, the, the purpose of it is when you and I talk and we can hear each other's voice at the same sound level, we don't talk over each other.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 1:11 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:12 'Cause people tend to talk over each other. Uh, just normal. N- normal conversation.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 1:15 Even in one-on-one conversations?

Joe Rogan 1:16 Yeah, normal conversation, people talk over each other accidentally, you know, like ... But when you hear both sounds, both voices at the same sound level-

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 1:23 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:24 ... it cl- ... It sounds really clunky in your ears. It's imperative when you have three people. If you have three people and you don't have headphones on, it'll be a disaster. They just ... Everyone starts talking over each other, and then when you're listening to it, it's like unlistenable. It's, it's, it's hard to-

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 1:36 That makes sense. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:38 You know?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 1:38 All right. So, so we're just rolling right now?

Joe Rogan 1:40 We're rolling, man.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 1:40 All right, we're rolling.

Joe Rogan 1:40 What's happening? How are you?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 1:41 Good.

Joe Rogan 1:41 First of all, let me just tell you how impressed I am with what you've done. I think what you've done is amazing, because your channel and your ... This ... What you've done on YouTube is completely unique. It's completely you. Like-

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 1:54 Thank you.

Joe Rogan 1:54 ... you, the ... What your personality comes through, the way you've, like, crafted these, these things that people have to do, these tasks and these games and this fun shit you do, and it's wildly popular. And I didn't know about it until, I guess, about a year ago. Uh, I told you my 11-year-old is fucking obsessed with your show, obsessed.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 2:13 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:13 And she told me, and we were in a, a hotel in Vegas. I was there for the UFC, and she was watching YouTube. I'm like, "What are you watching?" She's like, "Oh my God, it's MrBeast." And she was so into this show, and then I wa- ... I watched it, and I was like, "Wow, this is actually really entertaining."

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 2:27 Aw.

Joe Rogan 2:27 It's fun stuff, man.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 2:28 Thank you. Yeah, it's, it's, it's been crazy, 'cause I've, I've been doing it since I was 11. And n-

Joe Rogan 2:33 Really?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 2:34 Yeah, so now I'm 23, and so it's just like ... Basically, every year, it just gotten crazier and crazier, and y- ... I used to make a dollar a day back ... Well, I ... The first few years, I wasn't even making money off YouTube, but once I started making money, I was making a dollar a day, and I saved up for a couple months, I bought a microphone, saved up for half a year, I got a computer, and I've just always reinvested it. And so it's like literally just all ... I, I mean, I was like as awkward as they came, uh, no money, no nothing, and I just basically just obsessed over YouTube every day for a decade.

Joe Rogan 3:01 A- Are your first episodes available, the 11 ... when you were 11 years old?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 3:05 Uh, no, because I, I had a friend when I was 13 that found my channel, and so I deleted like all the videos. I got really self-conscious, but-

Joe Rogan 3:12 Oh, no.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 3:12 ... kind of. But so everything from 13 and up is there, and yeah, they're fucking terrible.

Joe Rogan 3:16 Well, that's s- ... That's still cool.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 3:17 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 3:17 So what did you do when you first started? Like, what was the first idea?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 3:21 Uh, the very first video, um, weirdly enough, I, I played this stupid game and some hacker, like, killed my base when I was 11, and so I uploaded it, and my first video got 20,000 views, like instantly, 'cause it was ... Like, all the people that played the game was like, "Oh, shit, you can hack in this game." It's a game called Battle Pirates, I guarantee you no one listens to these-

Joe Rogan 3:37 What is it called?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 3:38 Battle Pirates. No one here has ever heard of it.

Joe Rogan 3:39 Battle Card?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 3:40 Battle Pirates. It was-

Joe Rogan 3:41 Bat- Battle Pirates.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 3:41 Yeah, it was a really small game, but I uploaded that, and I got 20,000 views, and that was probably the best thing that could've ever happened to me, 'cause then I was, I was hooked from day one. Literally, like, most people, it takes hundreds of videos before you get like one view, and somehow, the very first video I uploaded at 11 got like 20,000 views, and then I was just like, "Oh." I, I fell in love, and I've been hooked ever since.

Joe Rogan 4:01 Wow, so it was kind of almost by accident.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 4:05 Uh, essentially, yeah. It was that, and then ... 'Cause this was way before YouTube was even a thing. Like-

Joe Rogan 4:10 Right.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 4:10 ... you know, no one was really a YouTuber. Hardly anyone made money.

Joe Rogan 4:13 When did YouTube first get ... When did it launch?

Narrator 4:16 Uh ...

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 4:17 Like 2006 or whatever.

Joe Rogan 4:18 2006, '07.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 4:18 YouTube was a thing, but like the partner program wasn't really a thing.

Joe Rogan 4:21 Right.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 4:21 No one was making money.

Joe Rogan 4:22 Right.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 4:22 Uh, and it was definitely back before it was cool. Like, when I was doing YouTube when I was 14 and 15, like, it ... Now, you know, it's cool if you want to be a YouTuber in high school or middle school.

Joe Rogan 4:31 Yeah.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 4:31 Back then, like, no one gave a fuck, you know what I mean? It was like you were just worried they would try to play your videos in class or, or make fun of you or stuff like that for it.

Joe Rogan 4:38 So but it ... How did it evolve to what it is now? Was it a, a vision? Was it a slow, sort of a gradual increase in numbers and-

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 4:47 Yeah, I mean, it was about as slow as it gets. Uh, I mean, I can ... So like when I was a young teenager, I was getting no views, had no money, had no equipment, and so for the most part, it was just like I was just trying to scrounge money so I could buy equipment, 'cause I was using my brother's old laptop. And so like my first couple hundred videos, I didn't have a microphone. Like imagine just like crackly, terrible voice, um, and so once I got monetized, I saved up for a few months, like I told you, I bought a microphone. I can just give you a mile-high history, and I saved up for like six months, and me- ... I was just doing video game videos, uh, and they were terrible, but I saved up. I got a real computer, and so now I could actually record the video game in high quality. I have a microphone, I'm like 15, and I just kept going and going. Um-... trying to figure out, like, what are some of, like, the- the hotspots. Like, essentially, up until 18 and a- I had been doing YouTube pretty religiously, but I was making no money. Like, this is... Kind of the turning point was when I graduated from high school, and my whole life I was like, "I wanna be making enough money by the time I graduate to do this full-time." And I wasn't, I was still only making a couple hundred bucks a month. So, I graduated high school, and my mom was like, "Either move out or go to a community college." And I didn't have enough money to move out, but I really just, I hated school with a passion, but she forced me to go to community college. And that was, that was the worst thing ever. Like, that- that made me hate life. Like, borderline suicidal, I just can't stand, like, having to just sit there and listen to this dumb stuff and listen to some teacher read out a book. So, what I did was, I would act like I was going to community college, but th- I would just work on videos in my car and edit and stuff like that.

Joe Rogan 6:16 (laughs)

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 6:16 I had straight zeros. And so now the clock had started-

Joe Rogan 6:20 Oh, no.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 6:20 ... 'cause, like, once my mom found out, I was screwed. Um-

Joe Rogan 6:23 Were you aware of that? Like-

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 6:24 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 6:25 ... that you're running a risk?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 6:26 Yeah, exactly.

Joe Rogan 6:26 Yeah.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 6:26 And so I would act like I was going to college that whole time, but I, I wasn't, and I didn't have enough money to move out. And that was kinda when I was just like, 15 hours a day, all in, I was like, "I'm fucked if this doesn't work."

Joe Rogan 6:36 (laughs)

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 6:36 And I actually, I had some videos pop off. I couldn't tell you which ones, but I had a month where I made $20 grand, 'cause I just had some videos just do really, really well. And then I, you know, I came home and I was like, "Yeah, I haven't been going to college," and I moved out the next day. (laughs) My mom almost had a heart attack, 'cause she, she didn't understand YouTube or anything back then, and she just, like, she was like, "Man, this guy's gonna work at McDonald's. I wasted all this time."

Joe Rogan 6:58 (laughs)

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 6:59 Like, "I invested 18 years and this is what I get." Um-

Joe Rogan 7:01 Where were you living? What part of the country?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 7:03 Uh, North Carolina. That's where I've, I've lived almost my whole life.

Joe Rogan 7:06 And so, how does she feel now?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 7:08 Oh, she's great. She's-

Joe Rogan 7:09 Is she, like, flabby-assed?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 7:10 She's beyond happy. Yeah, she loves it. You know, put her in front of s- her friends, she loves talking about it. She, obviously, she's great.

Joe Rogan 7:15 Oh, I always knew little Jimmy was gonna-

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 7:17 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 7:17 ... be a success.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 7:18 No, no. She w- she doesn't-

Joe Rogan 7:19 (laughs)

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 7:19 ... try to hide it. We- we would fight all the time. Even in high school, like, you know, I- I never once studied. I never... I literally wouldn't even take my books home. Like, I, I legit don't think I studied once all of high school at my house. Um, and so we would fight a lot. I didn't, I didn't have the best grades. And so I would, I would just make videos and sh- she didn't understand it, especially 'cause back then it was just a whole different world. Like-

Joe Rogan 7:39 Yeah.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 7:40 ... yeah, there wasn't really a thing as a full-time YouTuber and stuff. And so, it was lotta, lotta arguments, lotta drama, but ended up working out. She's happy.

Joe Rogan 7:48 Well, the thing is is, like, nobody saw this coming, right? So you can't, uh, you can't blame her.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 7:53 Oh, dude, especially me. In, like, the middle of North Carolina in a small town, I had, like, horrible acne. I'm, I'm, you know, especially back then, really awkward. It's like, no one... Like, people would've bet a million dollars that I wouldn't be a YouTuber, you know what I mean?

Joe Rogan 8:05 (laughs)

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 8:05 It makes no sense. (laughs) Um, but I just, like, I have, you know, hyper obsession and, and I love this. And, you know, given enough time, anyone can solve it.

Joe Rogan 8:13 Well, there's a lesson in that for people, really, like, to just... if you do have a hyper obsession to something. There's a lotta people that think that 'cause they're bad at school, or because they're not interested in school, that they're destined to be a loser.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 8:24 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 8:25 And that's not true. You- you can... The problem is school is too rigid. Like, regular public school system, sit down, under employ- uh, underpaid teacher, disinterested-

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 8:36 Yep.

Joe Rogan 8:36 ... not really connected with the work. You're not connected with it, you just can't wait to go home and do what you like to do.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 8:41 Exactly.

Joe Rogan 8:41 And you get this thought in your head, like, "Oh my God, I'm gonna be a loser." I mean, that's how I was when I was in high school. I thought I was gonna be a loser.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 8:47 Well, and, and you take it a step further, because I thought the... especially if you're, like, extremely passionate about something at a young age-

Joe Rogan 8:53 Right.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 8:53 ... where most kids aren't, then you're even... it's more exacerbated that it's like, you know, I, like, I- I didn't talk to anyone. I, I hardly had any friends because I was so obsessed with YouTube. And it's back then, just no one cared. So it's like, I thought I was just like, uh, just didn't even know how to speak. Like-

Joe Rogan 9:09 (laughs)

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 9:09 ... literally (laughs) , I- I just couldn't hold a conversation with a single person 'cause people would just tell me, "All you talk about is YouTube." And I would try to talk about something else, but back then I was so hyper obsessed that I literally just didn't know how to. Like-

Joe Rogan 9:19 But what were you obsessed about? Were you obsessed about other channels, your channel?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 9:22 Everything from, like, e- uh, learning how to editing, the pacing of the videos, like ideas, what's going viral, what's trending, what's hot. Especially back then, I had, I had no idea what worked. I mean, I had to, like, self-teach myself everything. Even, you know, frame rate on cameras, coloring of the video, just stuff like that.

Joe Rogan 9:37 And how did you learn? Did you learn from YouTube?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 9:39 Yeah. Well, s-

Joe Rogan 9:39 So, like, YouTube videos and tutorials or something?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 9:42 Most of my growth came actually after, uh, I graduated high school. Basically what I did was I f- somehow found these other, like, four lunatics. We were, three of us were college dropouts, one was a high school dropout, and one, I don't know, he just, like, quit his job. We all were super small YouTubers, and we basically talked every day for 1,000 days in a row, and did nothing but just, like, hyper study. Like, what makes a good video, what makes a good thumbnail, what- what's good pacing, like, how to go viral. And we- we'd just call it, like, Daily Masterminds. We would just get on Skype every morning. And, like, some days, like, I'd get on Skype at 7:00 AM and I'd be in the call until, like, 10:00 PM. And then I'd go to bed, I'd wake up, and I'd do it again. And, oh, you know, we'd do things like take 1,000 thumbnails and see if, like, there's a correlation to the brightness of the thumbnail to how many views it got. Or, like, you know, like, videos that get over 10 million views, it's like, how often do they cut the camera angles or, like, things like that. Um-

Joe Rogan 10:31 Really? So you- you micro-analyzed other-

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 10:33 Everything.

Joe Rogan 10:34 ... really?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 10:34 Yeah. Just, I mean, for... Like, we were very religious about it. And so, that's- that's where most of my knowledge came from, is I just surrounded myself with these lunatics. And just every day, like, we didn't do anything. We had no life. Um-

Joe Rogan 10:46 But everybody had sort of a similar vision?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 10:48 Yeah, exactly. And so we all had, like, 10, 20,000 subscribers when we met. And by the time we stopped talking, we all had millions of subscribers. And we were... we all hit a million subscribers, like, within a month. It's crazy, 'cause it's like, if you envision a world where you're trying to be great at something and it's just, like, you learning and fucking up and then learning from your mistakes. Also, my mom told me not to curse. Sorry Mom. If someone could just, like, edit out the swear words and give it to me.

Joe Rogan 11:09 Sorry, Mom.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 11:10 Yeah, so I can give it to my mom to listen to. That would be great. Um, but like, you know, you mess up, you learn from your mistake, you mess up, you learn from your mistake. You, in two years, you know, might have learned from 20 mistakes. Where if you have, like, four other people who are also messing up, and when they've, uh, learned from their mistake, they teach you what they learned, stuff like that. Hypothetically, you, two years down the road, have learned, like, five times more the amount of stuff. So it just, like, helps you...... grow exponentially way quicker, if that makes any sense.

Joe Rogan 11:33 It does, it does.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 11:34 Yeah, so-

Joe Rogan 11:34 But, but it's interesting that you thought about it that way in sort of a systematic approach, like you-

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 11:38 Exactly.

Joe Rogan 11:39 This is not d- dumb luck.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 11:41 Uh, no. I mean, it was like, uh, like they say, "10,000 hours to master something." We probably-

Joe Rogan 11:45 Yeah.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 11:45 ... put in like 40,000, 50,000 hours done. (laughs) I mean-

Joe Rogan 11:47 Wow.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 11:47 ... we're talking like every day, all day, like literally nothing. We had no friends outside of the group. That was your life. And like-

Joe Rogan 11:52 I'm actually rereading that book right now, that Malcolm Gladwell book, Outliers, that talks about that 10,000 hours principle.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 11:58 Uh-huh.

Joe Rogan 11:59 It totally applies to what you did, 100%. I mean, like-

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 12:02 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 12:02 … it, it sounds like you were just all day, every day, and which makes sense. And what do you have now, 90 million subscribers?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 12:09 Uh, well, we, uh, across everything, we're closing in on 200 million subscribers.

Joe Rogan 12:12 Jesus!

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 12:13 Yeah, 'cause, uh-

Joe Rogan 12:15 Ah!

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 12:15 Have you seen our, our dub channels? (hand slamming)

Joe Rogan 12:17 No.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 12:17 Uh, can you pull that up? Just search MrBeast, uh, in Español. So we actually ... which I'm kinda curious why you don't do this. We do our videos in other languages as well.

Joe Rogan 12:25 Really?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 12:25 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 12:26 Wow.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 12:26 And so ... And what's ... I, I can't wait to get ... show you this, 'cause I actually have s- ... a really cool story.

Narrator 12:31 (Vick mosta de marido.)

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 12:31 Here, just go, go to the channel, so you can try this out.

Joe Rogan 12:34 Who, uh, who does this?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 12:35 Uh, we do it.

Narrator 12:35 ¡No te pases!

Joe Rogan 12:36 So you hire someone?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 12:38 It's like this, yeah, we have voice actors and everything.

Joe Rogan 12:39 Wow.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 12:40 So these are the exact same videos on my main channel, but we, we pay voice actors to dub over them. We translate the text and the video, everything.

Joe Rogan 12:46 MrBeast in Español. Wow.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 12:48 Yeah, that was actually one of the fastest-growing channels last year, is just our videos dubbed.

Joe Rogan 12:52 That's so smart.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 12:52 Okay, now click on, uh, a video, so we can kinda hear it.

Narrator 12:56 Hoy, mis amigos y yo volveremos a la primaria.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 12:59 Yeah.

Narrator 12:59 Al final de la clase, haremos un examen de diez preguntas.

Joe Rogan 13:02 Oh.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 13:02 And so scroll down, so we can see the comments. Uh, it's-

Narrator 13:05 ... pruebas, las primeras-

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 13:06 It's all in, uh, Spanish, like ...

Joe Rogan 13:08 That's dope.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 13:09 Yeah. So that's ... Uh, now just ... Well, I, I won't pull 'em all up, but I'll just search-

Joe Rogan 13:13 In the other countries?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 13:13 Yeah. Search MrBeast Brazil and we do have a bunch of them.

Joe Rogan 13:16 Oh, so you got a Portuguese translator as well.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 13:18 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 13:19 Wow, that's dope.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 13:20 Yeah, same thing here.

Joe Rogan 13:21 I love it. Oh, man, I ... What a great idea, man.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 13:24 Yeah. And so ... 'Cause, you know, uh, if you Google it, it's like only, whatever, less than 10% of the world speaks English, so 90% of the world can't even enjoy your content.

Joe Rogan 13:33 Mm.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 13:33 And w- and when I realized that, I was like, "Wait a minute. (laughs) 90% of my w- the world can't even watch this stuff." Um, and so go back to the Spanish one real quick, because that's our, our biggest one. And sorry for anyone w- watching who doesn't have the visuals. So, set it to Most Popular. You'll s- like we just started doing this like six months ago and it's crazy like how viral some of these videos have gone.

Joe Rogan 13:50 Wow, 51 million.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 13:51 Yeah. (coughing) And s-

Joe Rogan 13:53 What ... The d- the problem with me is like I don't know if someone's gonna translate it, if they're gonna say exactly what I said.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 13:58 Well, you have quality control. So we have like ... Before a video gets uploaded, we have three different people who basically write the transcript, and then if the words don't line up on all three, then our- or sorry, f- ... Let me think about the process. Uh, we have something like that, 'cause I was worried about that as well. I think we, we take the original transcript, and then we have it dubbed, and then, uh, after it's dubbed, we have like two different people write out. And if it doesn't line up with the original, then there's like ... uh, it's a red flag and then we look at it.

Joe Rogan 14:21 Interesting.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 14:22 Yeah, we built some system where I don't have to worry about that.

Joe Rogan 14:24 (clears throat)

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 14:24 Uh, and the, and the final point is, in Spanish, the guy who does my dubs is the same guy who dubs Spider-Man. We managed-

Joe Rogan 14:30 Oh.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 14:30 ... to convince him. So, a lot of those comments are like, "Why does he sound like Spider-Man?" Or, "Is MrBeast Spider-Man?" Um-

Joe Rogan 14:35 That's hilarious.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 14:36 Yeah, and so what we do is when we go into these markets, we get celebrities to do my, my voice. So then the, like the l- local people in the language freak out. So like, uh, Japan is coming up, and I can't say who, but we secured like a, a giant voice actor from an anime to do my dubs. And whatever-

Joe Rogan 14:51 Oh.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 14:51 ... we launch in Japan, I know they're gonna lose their freaking minds.

Joe Rogan 14:55 That's a brilliant idea. That's so smart. So you have how many employees then?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 15:00 Uh, I mean, across everything, over 100. I don't know. It's been like-

Joe Rogan 15:03 Wow.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 15:04 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 15:04 And what are you? 23?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 15:06 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 15:06 That's crazy.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 15:08 Yeah, it's wild. Uh, I think I just had the blessing of finding what I loved at a young age, so like ... 'Cause to get to this level, you, it takes, you know, a decade. Most people don't find what they love till their young 20s, so they'd be where I'm at in their 30s.

Joe Rogan 15:20 Yeah.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 15:20 I just lucked out and found it when I was really young.

Joe Rogan 15:22 It's that, but it's also your vision. The, the fact ... One of the things that I was really impressed by ... when I started looking into you after my daughter introduced me, is that you invest so much money into the show.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 15:34 All, all of the money I make. I don't, I don't, I don't ... Why do I need money?

Joe Rogan 15:37 So you don't like go crazy? You don't have a Ferrari or anything nuts?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 15:40 No. I, I think living your life chasing like a nicer and nicer car and a bigger and bigger box to live in is kinda like a dumb way to, to go about life.

Joe Rogan 15:48 Yeah.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 15:48 Yeah, so I, I actually (laughs) ... funny enough, I lived in like a super below average home, and I kinda learned why famous people don't live in, uh, below average homes, 'cause someone broke in, stole everything I own. So I had to, I had to get a little nicer house for security reasons, but before I was robbed, I mean like my place was like a little duplex, 700 a month. You, you get a roommate, it's 360 split. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 16:08 Right.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 16:09 Yeah, it's ... And, uh, just drive a normal car. Well, now I drive a Tesla just 'cause of the, you know, getting off with gas and stuff like that.

Joe Rogan 16:15 Right.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 16:16 But, yeah.

Joe Rogan 16:18 So, you don't go crazy at all with cash?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 16:21 No.

Joe Rogan 16:21 You don't know-

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 16:21 I, I really try not to. I, I think that's like just a-

Joe Rogan 16:24 (clears throat)

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 16:24 ... a bad way to go about life. Also, it is a little hypocritical, because I, I run a, a nonprofit and, you know, we ... Uh, have you seen our Beast Philanthropy channel?

Joe Rogan 16:32 No.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 16:32 Uh, can you pull that up as well? We do a lot of stuff for helping people. And so also if I lived in a $10 million mansion while I'm feeding people and trying to help people, also- ... in my eyes, it's also a little hypocritical as well. So, in every area, I just ... I feel like it's just better if I just live below my means.

Joe Rogan 16:46 That's uh- is you- you're just very wise for a young man, 'cause a lot of 23-year-olds would be-... ballin' out of their fucking mind right now.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 16:53 Zoom out. Well, yeah, I- I also have some stories about that too, but-

Joe Rogan 16:56 You do?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 16:56 Um, yeah. 'Cause I did have a phase where I did ball out a little bit and- and then I just, I realized like, "Yeah, this doesn't make me happy."

Joe Rogan 17:02 What did you do during the balling out phase?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 17:04 Uh, I bought an i8 and I also bought some designer clothes, like some $1,000 shirts and stuff like that. Um, ironically, all of which was stolen when my house was bro- broken into.

Joe Rogan 17:13 (laughs)

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 17:13 So, it's kind of perfect because I was like, "I don't know if I really care about this stuff anymore," and then someone just stole all my expensive shit and I was like, "Perfect." Reshoot.

Joe Rogan 17:18 Did you set aside a bunch of fuck you money at least so that you never have to worry about money again?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 17:23 I've always reinvested back in the channel. Sometimes I run out of money and I have to take out a loan.

Joe Rogan 17:26 Really?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 17:27 Yeah. But- so-

Joe Rogan 17:28 You've taken a loan?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 17:29 Multiple times, yeah.

Joe Rogan 17:30 But you're making astounding amounts of money, I would imagine.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 17:32 Yeah, but hypothetically, if like, uh, you know you do a brand deal and a brand owes you half a million dollars, sometimes they don't pay for four months.

Joe Rogan 17:38 Mm-hmm.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 17:39 Well, you know, I already spent that half a million dollars when I gave it away in that video. So it's like, you know, it's like, there's never been a point where I'm like negative. Technically, money's inbound, but sometimes you just have to wait. But-

Joe Rogan 17:49 Oh, okay.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 17:49 ... I gotta keep going and keep filming, you know?

Joe Rogan 17:51 Wow, that's just, it's very unusual that someone would spend that much money reinvesting in the show.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 17:56 Yeah, that's which ironically is why we- we made more money last year than any other YouTuber on the platform, 'cause it's, I don't... Well, the thing is like for YouTube, a lot of people are very young. Uh, and so I think it's like there's so much money in this industry, but most people are so young that they just don't even realize the opportunity they have and they don't- they don't understand a lot of these things.

Joe Rogan 18:15 Right.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 18:16 And so I- I think that's like, it shouldn't be revolutionary that I reinvest all my money. Like that's something businesses have been doing for centuries, you know what I mean?

Joe Rogan 18:23 Right.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 18:23 It's- it's not that crazy. But I think just, like I was saying, like people are just so young and they don't understand like, you know, the- the opportunity you have here. I mean, if you have 50 million people that watch everything you do, you can start businesses, you can do anything. You know what I mean?

Joe Rogan 18:35 Yeah.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 18:35 Um, it's very valuable.

Joe Rogan 18:36 Well, the thing is- is though, you're treating this like an established business, and I think there's a lot of people that get into YouTube and they're just, they have no idea what they're doing and then they have no business sense. And even though you didn't pay attention in school, you're obviously wise enough to recognize that the right thing to do is to invest.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 18:53 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 18:53 That's what makes it unusual, because like you give a 23-year-old the kind of money that you're making, most of them are gonna just go fucking crazy.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 19:00 Well, if you think even younger, 'cause I started getting money when I was 19, 20. And so there's- there's so many things I want to say on that because I agree and I- I feel like I have some good advice to add for people in those positions. But, uh, there's a couple of things. First, first off the, to be like this successful as a YouTuber, you kind of have to understand like, there's like three different pillars that make like, uh, like get us where we are. Like you have to have the business sense, reinvest, hire, scale up. I mean, the things we're doing are huge logistical nightmares. Have you ever tried to buy a private island and, uh, you know, then you buy a private island and there's no beach and so you have to terraform a beach and build a pier and stuff like that for when you-

Joe Rogan 19:32 Is that what you did?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 19:33 Yeah, I mean there's so many crazy-

Joe Rogan 19:34 You guys bought an island?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 19:35 Yeah, 'cause we, uh, did a video where Last to Leave Island Keeps It, and then so we buy an island and it looks better on the internet and then you go see it and there's no beach. Well, fuck, now you gotta import 5,000 pounds of sand and stuff like that.

Joe Rogan 19:44 So, where's the island?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 19:45 Uh, somewhere in the Bahamas. Uh, some- someone won it, so the person who left-

Joe Rogan 19:50 Someone won a fucking island?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 19:51 Yeah. We're actually about to do something similar again coming up. Um, I mean-

Joe Rogan 19:54 How much does an island cost?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 19:55 That one was like 800 grand and then we put like 100 grand into like renovating it. Um, and then-

Joe Rogan 20:01 Wow. How big is the island?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 20:03 Uh, it was huge, like three football fields or something like that. It took quite a while to walk to the other side.

Joe Rogan 20:07 This is it?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 20:08 Yeah. Yeah, that one.

Joe Rogan 20:10 I bought this entire island?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 20:11 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 20:11 You can get an island for 800 grand?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 20:13 Yeah, in the Bahamas.

Joe Rogan 20:14 That's kind of a shock. How many islands are in the Bahamas?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 20:17 Um, I'm gonna be honest, I have no idea. But like that beach you see there, we had to build that beach. It was-

Joe Rogan 20:23 Really?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 20:24 Yeah. So that sand wasn't there, we had to import it.

Joe Rogan 20:26 So it was just like rocky coastline?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 20:28 Exactly, and- and we needed a beach to film on so we basically had to build a south part.

Joe Rogan 20:33 And so did you put a house up there or like is it just an island?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 20:36 No. The person who won it just sold it.

Joe Rogan 20:37 Oh, did they really?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 20:38 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 20:38 Right away?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 20:39 Yeah. He's like, "I don't fucking want it." I was like, "Well, then sell it." (laughs)

Joe Rogan 20:44 (laughs) And so these people, how do you find them?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 20:47 Uh, this one-

Joe Rogan 20:48 The contestants.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 20:49 Uh, it's different for every video. This one, I- I'd have to see them all in particular. Like this one was a mix of random people and my boys. Um, the- the hard thing is like sometimes I- I love pulling random people but, ugh, if you grab random people, sometimes people just don't know how to act on camera. They freeze up and they- they're really not good for content. And so like in an ideal world, everyone in my videos are just purely random, which is what I'm trying to get towards 'cause I'm trying to get better at like filtering out the random people that just freeze up and aren't good on camera. Um, that one's a little older so some of those are like people I knew because I knew they'd make good content. 'Cause I- I would bring someone in a video and they'd win something and they'd just freeze up and they'd do nothing. They'd just be like, "Oh, thanks." And then all the comments are like, "No one just says, 'Oh, thanks,' when you win 100 grand. This is fake. MrBeast is fake. All this is fake." And I'm like, "No, it's real." The fact that he's acting like that shows it's real, but like the masses don't understand that. So I have to be like very like strategic on how I pick people or everyone's just like, "Oh, this is fake." They didn't- they didn't react.

Joe Rogan 21:45 So how do you pick people? Do you have an audition? Do you have a conversation with them? Do you meet them?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 21:50 I literally just hired a casting director and usually we just like get large amounts of people, they filter through, and we're just looking for like people, A, do they need it? Like do they actually need this help? Would it benefit their life? You know, obviously they- they can't be super rich. And then also, it's literally just like put a camera in front of them and do they freeze up? That's it. I just can't have people like freezing up because then it just like, it, I don't know, it's just not content and it's, I can't just pause the show and like explain like, "Oh, they're not talking right now because they," you know.

Joe Rogan 22:17 So when they meet you, is it for the first time or...

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 22:20 Yeah, when- when we film it's usually for the first time.

Joe Rogan 22:23 So the casting person sets everything up and they get these applicants from...

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 22:28 It really just depends on the video 'cause like some videos like Squid Game, there's 456 people. Um, that one, we dropped like a shirt, we grabbed 100 random people that bought the shirt and then the other 356 we just got from a local college. We literally just went there, put out flyers and the first 356 people that called, we just brought them in. Um-

Joe Rogan 22:45 You brought them in but did you vet them or?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 22:47 No that, 'cause there's so many people.

Joe Rogan 22:48 Is that what you mean?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 22:48 That's what I'm saying, it's like different videos.

Joe Rogan 22:50 Right.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 22:50 Where's that, did you see that Squid Game video?

Joe Rogan 22:52 I saw part of it, yeah.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 22:53 Yeah, that was wild. That- that was the most expensive thing we've ever done.

Joe Rogan 22:56 How much did it cost?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 22:57 A little over $4 million.

Joe Rogan 22:58 Jesus Christ.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 22:59 Yeah, 'cause we had CG, we recreated all the sets. It's like, and the thing is like there's not really room for error, you know what I mean?

Joe Rogan 23:05 Right.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 23:05 Like this- this shit has to work, you know? Um, and so like, you know, engineering, like the glass bridge, we legit had to build the glass bridge for them to drop them-

Joe Rogan 23:13 Wow.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 23:13 ... and safety and all that stuff.Yeah.

Joe Rogan 23:15 And when you're doing this, are you bringing in stunt people? Like, how are you coordinating all this?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 23:19 For?

Joe Rogan 23:20 For like, to, to set up challenges? Like, like, if you're doing something where you drop people off a gl- how do you make sure that they don't die?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 23:25 (laughs) Well, there's, there's foam below it and obviously, it's safe. Uh, everything, you know, we do, we safety test beyond belief. That video, we had over 100 different people working on it, so...

Joe Rogan 23:34 Wow.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 23:34 Like, yeah, you know. I mean, that, I don't even know how many people we had working on that glass bridge thing. That one was very stressful 'cause it's also, it's like, you know, you spot a trend, Squid Game's hot. It's not like you have six months to pull it off. It's like, "Fuck, this is hot. It's not gonna be hot in a couple of months."

Joe Rogan 23:48 Right, right.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 23:48 Like, "We're doing it. We gotta do it in the next month." And so it's like, you, we ba- it was basically, like, three or four warehouses just filled with, like, these crazy, like, sets and all this stuff has to move con- concurrently. Um, yeah, I mean, it's, it's hard without the visuals to even begin to explain it 'cause, like, like, the first set we had was, like, literally, like, the size of a football field and we need...

Joe Rogan 24:06 Here's-

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 24:06 Go to the very beginning. Uh, yeah, that, that's the glass bridge one, but yeah, look at this set. Like, those are real walls we built. Those things are fucking huge. Sorry, Mom for swearing.

Joe Rogan 24:14 Wow.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 24:15 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 24:15 Sorry, Mom.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 24:16 Yeah. Oh, well. Uh, like that, uh, it's, you can't even tell the scale of how big that room is, um, in the shot, but that's 456 people and look how tiny they are.

Joe Rogan 24:26 And what are you hitting them with?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 24:27 Uh, so aga- again, this is like, uh, the crazy stuff that people don't even realize we have to do. So we had to build these Squibs on them so when people got out, uh, 'cause in Squid Game, you got shot when you got out.

Joe Rogan 24:38 Right.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 24:38 We can't shoot people, so the next best thing is we put a device onto them that when they get out, it just squ- uh, shoots out ink to signify-

Joe Rogan 24:44 Right.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 24:45 ... that they got out. So, everyone had a device strapped to their chest that we had to custom build, and we had to build software in an app. Uh, and then we had, like, 100 spotters around. So if I said, "Red light," and they kept moving, the spotter would click the app on their app and basically pop their Squib so they're out.

Joe Rogan 24:58 So you developed an app specifically just for this?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 25:01 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 25:01 That's hilarious.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 25:02 I wish I, I had it on me. And so you would see all 456 people, you'd see their face, and then when they got out, uh, the spotter would pop 'em out. That's the thing, like, there's so much stuff that goes on behind the scenes to make this stuff happen that, (laughs) like, people don't even realize, and that's why no one else does what we do because it's, it's like, it's stressful, it's hard, and it's brutal.

Joe Rogan 25:21 Wow. And where did you get the doll? The, the doll that spins its head around?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 25:25 Uh, we... Uh, that one?

Joe Rogan 25:27 You built that?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 25:27 Uh, some, yeah, some company in, uh, in, in Europe, they, they built it for us. It was, like, 50 grand.

Joe Rogan 25:32 What do you do with that after you're done with it?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 25:33 That's a, that's a problem 'cause none of our videos are the same. It's like, usually we give stuff away or we just put it in storage, but like, I know, like... (laughs) I don't know.

Joe Rogan 25:40 Where is that doll now?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 25:42 Uh, I, I don't wanna lie to you. I have no earthly idea. I mean, we have a hu-

Joe Rogan 25:46 I'll buy it. (laughs)

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 25:46 Oh, you'll buy it? (laughs)

Joe Rogan 25:47 Yeah, I wanna put that doll in my studio.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 25:49 Okay. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 25:49 I think that would be dope as fuck, wouldn't it?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 25:52 (laughs) A little doll head? Yeah.

Joe Rogan 25:52 Come on, man. That thing would be cool as shit to have that here.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 25:56 And then so now skip to the next scene. I mean, 'cause I, I can run you through it. That's why, like, this originally was supposed to cost $2 million, but as we're going through it, it's like, "Oh, fuck. Now it's two and a half? Oh, fuck. It's three?" And I was like, "Okay."

Joe Rogan 26:07 Wow.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 26:07 "Can't get any more than $3 million." And next thing you know, like, you actualize the budget afterwards and it's like fucking $4 million. Um...

Joe Rogan 26:13 Holy shit. And this is, did you a- have to take all this down once you were done?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 26:17 Yeah, and then they-

Joe Rogan 26:17 So you just lease these warehouses?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 26:19 No, we ow- we own them. We, we have, uh-

Joe Rogan 26:21 Oh, you own them, okay.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 26:21 Yeah, we have one of the largest studios on the East Coast.

Joe Rogan 26:23 Oh, so you built warehouses specifically-

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 26:26 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 26:26 ... so that you can do all kinds of stuff like this?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 26:28 Exactly. Well, and so you can pause it. You can see just this. That's kind of the, the problem for me is, like, we're, we're reinvesting so much money in the videos and pushing 'em to the max, but I also need space, like...

Joe Rogan 26:37 Right.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 26:37 ... 'cause, like, the videos are so big that... So if you wanna... You can't just work on a video for a week. You gotta be working months in advance. And so you basically gotta always be working on, in an ideal world, 6 to 10 videos. Well, if one video takes up your entire warehouse, how the fuck do you work on the other five?

Joe Rogan 26:52 Right.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 26:52 So like, space is a huge bottleneck, um, and I'm in the middle of nowhere in North Carolina. There's not tons of studio space and stuff like that. So we have, like, three or four studios, um, that we, uh, well, the newest one is what I call our campus that we built. It's a giant $10 million studio and it's kinda like a money game because, like, I wanna reinvest in going big on videos, but I also need to build infrastructure, so it's kinda like a balancing act.

Joe Rogan 27:12 Mm.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 27:13 Um, but we built this huge, uh, it's 6, 70,000 square feet, 6, or 55,000 of, like, studio space, uh, 'cause also the problem is if you get, like, uh, warehouses, they always have beams and you can't film if there's beams, so it's like, uh, it was easier just to, uh, renovate this place. Sorry, I'm just going on random tangents. It's like-

Joe Rogan 27:30 No, it's good. It's great. I love it.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 27:31 Yeah, and so basically we have this ginormous warehouse, soundproof, uh, I can do shit like blow up a car in it 'cause there's like a thousand sprinklers that you'll drown before you, you, uh, burn to death in there or, like, light a fire or anything, uh, which is good so we can do dumb shit. It's like the perfect wonderland, but even then, like, even though this place is great and it was $10 million, it's still like usually only houses one or two videos, so we need to build another one, and it's just usually like a money game.

Joe Rogan 27:55 Now how much micromanaging do you do? Because (clears throat) I'm looking at this and I'm seeing, like, you've got everything. You've even got the cookies, like, in the shape of the umbrellas so that-

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 28:03 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 28:03 ... you, like, have to get someone who makes the cookies for you-

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 28:05 Oh, of course.

Joe Rogan 28:06 ... but make sure that you could still cut 'em out with a- with a needle.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 28:07 Bro, that's one of the easiest things, man.

Joe Rogan 28:09 Yeah, but even that, ev- even that being easy, it's like you gotta make sure everything's right, so...

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 28:14 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 28:15 Uh, I could imagine like one screw up, like, if someone makes bad cookies that you can't cut through right...

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 28:19 Of course.

Joe Rogan 28:19 ... and they crumble. You're, you're stumped.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 28:21 Oh, we, we do test on test on test on test, um, leading up. Dude, this one was crazy, the, the tug-of-war scene. Look at that set. Isn't that freaking crazy?

Joe Rogan 28:30 Oh my God. That's amazing.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 28:31 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 28:31 And that's, so they're over foam so they just-

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 28:33 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 28:34 ... drop down into-

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 28:34 They drop in the foam.

Joe Rogan 28:35 ... a giant pile of foam?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 28:36 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 28:36 That's incredible, dude.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 28:37 That, that's probably one of the coolest shots I've ever gotten. Um...

Joe Rogan 28:41 Yeah, I mean, this is like something that looks like a set from Fear Factor or something. I mean, really looks like a big time-

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 28:46 Wait, look at this one too. Pause it there. Look at that shit.It's crazy.

Joe Rogan 28:49 Yeah.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 28:50 I love it.

Joe Rogan 28:50 No, it's really cool. I, I love what you do.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 28:53 Oh.

Joe Rogan 28:53 I just, I just think it's amazing how much dedication you have to this.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 28:56 Thank you.

Joe Rogan 28:57 Because no one's telling you to do this.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 28:59 No.

Joe Rogan 28:59 This is not like you have, like, Universal Studios is behind you, and they're like, "MrBeast, this is what we planned, and-"

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 29:04 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 29:04 "... here, we have hired these people." You're doing all of this yourself.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 29:07 Taking all the risks, coming up with the ideas. And, you know, every step of ... Now, people, it's like ... What's the saying? It's like, you're, you're crazy until you're a genius or whatever. I don't know.

Joe Rogan 29:16 Yeah.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 29:16 Not that I think I'm a genius. But, it's like, basically up until like two years ago, every step of the way, too, people are throwing tomatoes and telling you you're stupid for reinvesting, you know?

Joe Rogan 29:24 Right.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 29:24 Everyone thinks you're off your rocker, you've lost your mind. And everyone also thinks, like, the life cycle of YouTube is like two years, and it's like, well, you know, in two years, you're gonna be irrelevant, when it's only two years if you just don't do interesting shit, you know? Uh-

Joe Rogan 29:35 Yeah. Well, I think it's two years if you don't continually push yourself.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 29:39 Exactly. Innovate, cont- keep adapt-

Joe Rogan 29:41 Yeah. Yeah.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 29:41 If you're innovating, adapting, and, like, doing cool stuff, I mean, you can have a career as long as 10 years, in my opinion, on YouTube.

Joe Rogan 29:46 That ... But that's in the same in everything, I think.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 29:48 I, I agree, but-

Joe Rogan 29:48 I mean, that's the same with television shows. How many television shows are really popular for a while, and then they drop off?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 29:52 Yeah, exactly.

Joe Rogan 29:53 Yeah.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 29:53 And the ... 'Cause they don't innovate and they-

Joe Rogan 29:55 Yeah.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 29:55 Yeah, they get the cookie-cutter formula. Also, that, that video, too. Looking at the view count reminded me, um, I think Netflix in total has 220 million subscribers, and, and that video just crossed 220 million views.

Joe Rogan 30:06 Wow.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 30:06 So, it was, it was a big dub.

Joe Rogan 30:09 Yeah, I mean, obviously it worked. I mean, just incredible. Incredible that you were able to pull it all off during the time where Squid Games was really relevant-

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 30:17 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 30:17 ... 'cause like if that came out today, I'm sure it'd be really interesting.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 30:21 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 30:21 But it wouldn't ... People wouldn't be obsessed with it-

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 30:22 No one would give a fuck.

Joe Rogan 30:23 ... like they were. Yeah.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 30:23 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 30:24 'Cause when Squid Games first came out, I mean, it was a phenomenon for like a couple of months.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 30:28 Exactly.

Joe Rogan 30:28 So you had a small window to act in.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 30:30 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 30:30 And you gotta design everything and build everything and then-

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 30:32 Uh, and I also want to put out there, I have some amazing people on my team, 'cause that video without, like ... I mean, I have s- arguably some of the smartest people in the world when it comes to just creating viral content and YouTube and stuff like that. Without them, that wouldn't be possible, 'cause it's not like I'm over there, like, designing every little set, and I'm, you know, custom building the Squibs that we're rigging on them and designing the app. You know, we ... It's, it's taken a long time, but like, I would literally, without a doubt in my mind, say we have the smartest people in the world when it comes to making viral content, and like, no one else can do this type of stuff. You have to be very nimble, you have to really think outside of the box. And it's like, one day you're trying to figure out how to secure a sub, the next you're trying to figure out how to go to Antarctica, the next you're building Squid Game in real life, the next you're burying me alive for 50 hours, you know?

Joe Rogan 31:10 (laughs)

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 31:10 It's like, you have to ... It's like, it ... You don't find people that specialize in this stuff, it's like just people, I don't know, who just have a willing to learn and adapt and like, you know, keep ... 'cause it's, it's all different, yeah.

Joe Rogan 31:21 And how do you find these people? How do you find these people that you work with?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 31:23 Uh, I mean, it's been hard. A lot of them are just like lunatics that really love doing interesting things, 'cause it is fulfilling, 'cause like it's, it's different. It's not like you're going and doing the same cookie-cutter stuff every day. So a lot of people find that fulfilling, and usually it's people with good work ethic that want to learn, and then we kind of train them up. It's kind of been my best result, 'cause like I said, no one specializes in all that stuff, you know what I mean?

Joe Rogan 31:45 Mm-hmm.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 31:45 Also, people who work in unscripted or like shows like that where it's not like a set, uh, plan typically do better in our environment. But like someone who worked ... Like, if you worked on Wheel of Fortune, you would do horrible in our environment, you w- you wouldn't even understand.

Joe Rogan 31:58 (laughs)

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 31:58 It's like, 'cause like, you know, we don't tell you what to do, we kind of like give you a little bit of reign to make decisions and you got to pivot and it's like n- no one know ... We've never built Squid Game in real life before. We don't know if it's possible to like build a 40-foot wall in this coliseum. It's like, they might cap you at 35. Well then now you have to decide, well, does 35 still look good on visual, on the camera and stuff like that? So it's like people who are also able to think for themselves a little bit.

Joe Rogan 32:20 So, I- I- I mean, do you guys have like weekly meetings where you talk about this stuff? Do you-

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 32:25 I mean, we, we work in the office every day.

Joe Rogan 32:26 Are you working every day?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 32:27 Well, not every day, but you know, week days and stuff.

Joe Rogan 32:28 Pretty close to it.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 32:29 Yeah, I mean, if it's closer to a video, you know, it gets crunch time. But like right now, we're not even really filming that much, um, 'cause I mean we've just had some ... a lot of videos fall through 'cause of COVID.

Joe Rogan 32:38 Is it stressful to have like such a big staff?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 32:42 Uh, yeah. I mean, my life is very stressful-

Joe Rogan 32:44 I mean-

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 32:44 ... 'cause we, we haven't even touched on like ... Have you seen our gaming channel, our reaction channel?

Joe Rogan 32:48 No, I, I want to get to all that, but I just-

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 32:50 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 32:50 Just the way the whole thing is structured is fascinating to me because-

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 32:53 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 32:53 ... obviously you're at the top and you're the, the guy who's calling the shots and it's your channel, but it seems-

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 32:59 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 32:59 ... like you've got a whole ecosystem under you.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 33:00 Of course.

Joe Rogan 33:01 And you're fucking 23 years old. I mean, that's wild shit to be managing all that.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 33:04 Yeah, I, I could step away and those guys could c- create just the most viral videos ever. We have a, a machine, and these people are geniuses. I mean, it ... I, I lucked out with quite a few of them. They're-

Joe Rogan 33:13 And-

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 33:13 ... they're really intelligent.

Joe Rogan 33:14 ... the way you put them together was just finding people that you thought were interesting? I mean, how long did it take to develop a, a hundred employee roster?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 33:22 Yeah. Well, not all 100 are on the main channel, right? 'Cause like, uh, we have the gaming channel, which probably has like 24 people. Like, on our gaming channel we have like five ... four or five people that like their full time job is just to build the maps. Like, everything we do on Minecraft we custom build and we custom code stuff, and then we have a dozen people that work on our reaction channel. The main channel, I don't know where we're at, but, uh, it's probably like half of it. Um, and I don't know, they're just like the people ... They just come from everywhere, you know? (laughs)

Joe Rogan 33:46 Hmm.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 33:46 I don't, I don't even know how to explain it, 'cause it's like I basically just hired one person a month every month for like the last five years, essentially.

Joe Rogan 33:52 Wow. That's, that's amazing. So like, what is a typical day for you? Like, when you're trying to figure out like what you're going to make a video of next, do you get together with your friends and brainstorm?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 34:04 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 34:04 Do you, do you have like an idea that you come up with while you're driving your car or something? Like-

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 34:08 Yeah. So that's where it gets interesting. I've, I ... So the difference between a video on YouTube, and this is where I can go infinitely in depth. The difference between a video with a million views or 10 million views usually isn't that like the 10 million view video ... Or actually a better example would be a million views and 30 million views. They ... The video with 30 million views usually didn't put in 30 times the effort. Like, they might have put in two or three times the effort and just had a way better idea. Does that make sense?

Joe Rogan 34:30 Yes.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 34:31 And so once you kind of understand that, which I understood ... I like ... I kind of started to understand that like, uh, when I was 19, you realize that like the idea is so freaking important. Like, you could ... Theoretically, most YouTubers watching this, you could pull triple the views with half the work if you just had better ideas. Like no joke.

Joe Rogan 34:46 Yeah.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 34:46 It's, it's that extreme. Um, and so once you realize how important an idea is, you just obsess over, "Well how do I get more ideas? How to get better ideas?" So I, I used to just spend an hour every day brainstorming ideas. I don't anymore, um, but like probably like four years that just every day I'd just spend an hour, and I would just do something different. One day I'd use a random word generator, like, uh ... I don't know, just say a random word.

Joe Rogan 35:07 ... dog.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 35:08 Uh, you know, I adopted 100 dogs, you know. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 35:10 Right.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 35:10 I gave my friend 50 dogs, or I, I gave a dog a million dollars worth of dog treats. Whatever. I, so I, I take in random words, I see what pops into my head, I write those down, and then I take in another random word. And, like, I, I've, I've studied it very intensely. I've tried, like, lucid dreaming to see if I could trick myself to come up with ideas while I'm sleeping and stuff like that.

Joe Rogan 35:27 Wow.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 35:27 I, I work really well when I intake inspiration and I see what pops into my head, that's, like, the most effective way for me to come up with ideas. So it's like, I just try different ways of intaking inspiration, whether it be, like, traveling, random words, flipping through a dictionary, things like that. And that's always, for me, been the way to, like, consistently come up with good ideas.

Joe Rogan 35:46 Wow, so you, you actively seek these ideas out and you try to come up with different ways to just have them manifest?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 35:53 Yeah, exactly.

Joe Rogan 35:53 And then once you do, then you sit down with the crew and you go, "Okay, how do we make this?" And then, "How, how does that work?"

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 35:59 Well, it's a long com- ... But then we ... You know, the, we can't start w- working on the video until we know what it is.

Joe Rogan 36:04 Right.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 36:04 So then, you know, I, I have a guy named Tyler who I've known for years, I went to high school with. He's just p- phenomenal. And so, you know, then we have to write the video and actually figure it out. Like, so if I wanna bury myself alive for 50 hours, like, what does that look like? What are, what are we doing in there? 'Cause until you know-

Joe Rogan 36:18 Right.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 36:18 ... everything you're doing, you can't start working on it. And then, you know, you come up with it, and then we have, you know, our, our people who basically make it happen. Um, but then the problem is, it's like, "Oh, well, you, you wrote you wanted a, a giant ball in a coffin." But, like, they're like, "Oh, well, you can't get a giant ball." And so then it's, like, just months of back and forth, like, figure ... And this is where most people fall apart and why, like, this won't work in traditional media, 'cause it's like, you don't write a script and then just hand it to them, especially 'cause it's non-scripted. Like, you know. So y- you can't just, uh, say, like, "Here's what we need," and then they just do it and then it magically happens, 'cause, like, once they start working on it, there's, like, all these things like, "Oh, well, this is impossible, this is impossible." So it's like a back and forth for months, and then it's like, usually it's like, "Well, since this didn't work, that means this doesn't work in the hypothetical thing." Like, uh, like, you know, you can't light a firework in the coffin, or whatever, or, like, you can't light a fire. If, like, one of the bits was me to cook food, well, 'cause of the ventilation you can't light a fire in there. And so then it's like you gotta change it. So it's, like, a lot of back and forth like that over the course of months and then you get a final product, which is why you need intelligent people working on it, so they can, like, do that and they can occasionally make decisions on their own without having to push it all up to me, 'cause then I'd wanna kill myself. Uh-

Joe Rogan 37:21 And this has been all just a trial and error sort of thing from the beginning of your-

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 37:25 Exactly.

Joe Rogan 37:26 ... first videos to now?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 37:27 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 37:27 Do you ever stop and, like, look at, when you got a video like that that has 224 million views?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 37:33 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 37:34 And look at how insane your reach is and go, "How the fuck?"

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 37:37 I know, it's crazy. Well, and that's just in English, and you, you-

Joe Rogan 37:40 Right.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 37:40 ... add the other channels, uh, other languages as well. Yeah, I mean, I, I don't know. (laughs) I, I, I don't even know how to put it into words. I mean, it is crazy. It's, it's, like, they ... Obviously, it just feels like numbers on a screen, but if I tried to visualize 100 million people, it's unfathomable.

Joe Rogan 37:54 Now, you're in an unusual situation too, because YouTube is, you know, i- it's a weird place, 'cause it's got these, you have, like, partnership deals, right?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 38:04 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 38:04 So you get a, you get a piece of the ad revenue, but-

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 38:07 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 38:08 ... you essentially don't have a contract. Like, YouTube-

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 38:10 Exactly.

Joe Rogan 38:10 ... can just go, "You know what? Fuck MrBeast. Let's get rid of him."

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 38:13 Why would they?

Joe Rogan 38:14 Of course they shouldn't.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 38:15 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 38:15 It's a terrible idea. But you're in this weird ... Like, if they change the way they monetize things for any reason. I know that has happened to certain people, right? Where they used to have, uh, some sort of a, a deal with YouTube where they were making videos and, for whatever reason, YouTube demonetized them, and they go into full-blown panic.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 38:34 Yeah. I mean, obviously-

Joe Rogan 38:35 And you're as not ... You're not controversial in the sense of, like-

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 38:38 Yeah, we're not anywhere near the line. And, like, a lot of that, like, isn't YouTube, it's like the advertisers putting pressure on them.

Joe Rogan 38:43 Yes.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 38:43 And they're just trying to, you know, um, but no.

Joe Rogan 38:45 But have you been a ... My point was, have you been approached to be independent with something like that? Because you're so big at this point, you could have your own servers, your own website-

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 38:55 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 38:55 ... your own deals with advertisers where you get 100% of the revenue, rather than, you know, x amount.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 38:59 I'm b- ... I love YouTube. I, I mean, like, you gotta think about it, like, YouTube comes preinstalled on Android, you know?

Joe Rogan 39:04 Right.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 39:05 Obviously, Google, uh, owns YouTube, or Alphabet, but also Google owns ... So people go there through Google. I mean, like, all, all roads point to YouTube.

Joe Rogan 39:12 Yeah.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 39:12 I, I love being the biggest creator on YouTube. I, I ... Fuck (laughs) going and doing my own thing. That sounds stupid. Like-

Joe Rogan 39:18 (laughs)

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 39:18 ... hell no. Like, I can have, you know, one of the largest audiences in the world and I can ... I ... Instead of thinking about building my own platform, I'd rather think about building businesses leveraging my audience off of YouTube, like, you know, like Beast Burger and our snack brand and other stuff like that.

Joe Rogan 39:30 Right.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 39:30 I feel like that's a better use of time instead of just nuking my audience.

Joe Rogan 39:33 Well, I don't think it would nuke your audience. My point is, I think you're so big that you would just transfer anywhere.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 39:38 But I, I think, like ... Yeah, but you would take that, but then you don't have, like ... 'Cause we're constantly gaining new, new-

Joe Rogan 39:42 The growth, right.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 39:42 ... new, new people. Like, last year we gained thir- uh, on the main channel alone, we're the most subscribed to channel in the world. We gained 36 million subscribers on the main channel. Like-

Joe Rogan 39:49 Really?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 39:50 Yeah, if I had my own platform, it'd be like one or two million, you know what I mean?

Joe Rogan 39:53 Right, right, right.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 39:53 Like, so it's like ... And it's, it's still going up, you know, across all the channels we're gaining like seven million subscribers a month. Like, that would just plummet if I used my own platform.

Joe Rogan 40:01 Do you have an ultimate plan for all this?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 40:04 Um, I mean, I just love YouTube. It's, it's been my life's passion, and so I-

Joe Rogan 40:07 Do you ever meet them?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 40:09 Uh, people at YouTube?

Joe Rogan 40:09 Yeah, do you ever go there and have a powwow?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 40:11 Uh, no. I mean, I've, I've talked to some people but it's like, I don't really need anything, to be honest.

Joe Rogan 40:15 Bro, they should massage your feet.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 40:16 (laughs) Yeah.

Joe Rogan 40:17 They really should.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 40:17 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 40:18 They should sit you down, "Jimmy, you're doing so well."

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 40:21 Yeah. Yeah, YouTube, if you're listening, I'll, I'll take the foot massage.

Joe Rogan 40:23 Yeah.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 40:23 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 40:23 That's what they should be doing with you. The- y- just set up a throne.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 40:26 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 40:26 You sit there with a crown on, and, and then they dunk your feet in a thing and they do your nails.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 40:31 And, and so I might have a different view than most people, but, you know, I, I didn't have much and it's all, 100% of everything. I've never worked a job, I've never made, like, anything. It's all been from YouTube, from when I-

Joe Rogan 40:41 It's incredible.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 40:42 ... used to make a dollar a day. So I, I love this platform more than anything.

Joe Rogan 40:44 No, listen, I love YouTube too. With all the problems that they have, I think it is absolutely amazing that they've created this thing where someone can make a living, and an incredible living, just creating content.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 40:53 Anyone in the world can. Like-

Joe Rogan 40:54 Yeah.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 40:55 I, I ... If you, like ...I don't know how to say this without sounding arrogant, but like if you knew what I know about, like, how to make a good video and go viral, even if you had zero subscribers, you could be making a hundred grand a month in, in half a year, right? If you, anyone in the world can be a successful YouTuber and to me, that's, like, the beauty of the platform.

Joe Rogan 41:11 Yeah, it really is. It's, and it's very unique in that there's a lot of other platforms, but no one ever figured out a way where someone could be fully dedicated to it and make a living off it. I guess maybe Twitch, and then I guess there's a f- a few other ones where people make money.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 41:24 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 41:24 Off-

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 41:24 But not at the scale of YouTube.

Joe Rogan 41:26 No, not even close. Not even close to scale. You know, that was one of the most difficult things about, um, going to Spotify was leaving YouTube-

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 41:34 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 41:34 ... because I was like, "Man, like, w- our growth on YouTube is pretty crazy." Like, I don't know-

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 41:38 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 41:38 ... if that's a smart move to just leave, and so the compromise was we could still put clips up on YouTube.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 41:44 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 41:44 That, that was really the only way I was willing to do it. I wasn't willing to just abandon.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 41:47 Which, it was a great idea because that's like, I, I don't really use Spotify that much, but I, you know, all the time your, your clips occasionally pop up on, like, on my homepage on my TV. And so if you, in my world, 'cause like, you, there are, like, these different worlds now. Like, there's some people that only use TikTok. They don't, so, like, if you're not on TikTok, you just don't exist in the world.

Joe Rogan 42:05 Right.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 42:05 That's kinda how I view it. In my world, it's l- it's pretty big YouTube, so like, if you just were nonexistent on YouTube, like, you wouldn't exist to me.

Joe Rogan 42:12 Right.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 42:12 You know, hypothetically in my world.

Joe Rogan 42:14 Yeah, yeah.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 42:15 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 42:15 Well, I, I mean, I exist on TikTok but it's not me. Like, someone's just uploading my content on TikTok.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 42:21 Really?

Joe Rogan 42:21 Yeah, and at a certain point in time, I guess I should step in and do something.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 42:24 You should.

Joe Rogan 42:24 ... on TikTok, but TikTok is such a sketchy fucking application. Have you ever seen, like, uh, the breakdown that these software engineers have done of TikTok, of how intrusive it is?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 42:34 Uh, no.

Joe Rogan 42:35 They said it's the single most disturbing piece of software they've ever had to back engineer because the amount of cr- like, cross-platform-

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 42:43 Really?

Joe Rogan 42:44 ... spying it does.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 42:45 Well, I know, like, if you're, um, in, like, if you travel to a different state, like even now in Texas, like, my TikTok feed will be a lot more Texas content.

Joe Rogan 42:52 Yeah.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 42:52 It's definitely location-based, and if you're, I have had instances where I would say certain things in conversations and then later that night, I would get in my feed something similar. Like if I talked about dogs a lot and then I'd g- I would weirdly start getting TikToks about dogs. I have noticed that type of stuff.

Joe Rogan 43:07 My friend told me that she was talking to this lady, and they were just-

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 43:10 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 43:10 ... having a conversation and then she looked at her TikTok and TikTok suggested her.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 43:15 Based on that conversation?

Joe Rogan 43:16 So TikTok knew that her and this lady were next to each other physically 'cause their phones were next to each other.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 43:21 Wow.

Joe Rogan 43:22 So the TikTok suggested that she follow that lady.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 43:25 That's crazy.

Joe Rogan 43:26 That's spooky.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 43:26 And TikTok can be pretty addicting. I actually recently uninstalled it just 'cause even though my TikTok's mostly, like, gym and, like, uh, actually finance stuff. So it's like, I actually don't, I, I enjoy the content on it and I don't think it makes me a worse person, but I found I was spending, like, two hours a day on TikTok and I was like, "Ah."

Joe Rogan 43:40 Just scrolling through videos?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 43:41 Yeah, that's what I was like.

Joe Rogan 43:42 Yeah.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 43:42 That's a little much, so I, I uninstalled it.

Joe Rogan 43:45 Yeah, it's, it's a fine line between enjoyment, getting something out of the content, and then just this weird empty obsession-

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 43:54 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 43:54 ... where you're just spending time staring at other people's stuff.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 43:57 Constantly. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 43:57 Yeah.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 43:57 But I think you can curate the feed, though, where it is beneficial, which is what I tried to do, and I, I had it in a good place where, like, you know, when I opened TikTok, it would motivate me to work out and, like, it would motivate me to go work, so it's good. But sometimes just it'd take a little long, uh, 'cause you can see your time on app, and so usually I try to, I try not to spend more than, like, an hour and a half a day on social media. So when I saw that two hours, I was like, "Fuck." (laughs)

Joe Rogan 44:18 Do you know the difference between the way China does it versus the way America does it?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 44:21 No.

Joe Rogan 44:22 It's really interesting. China, first of all, between the e- the hours of 10:00 AM and 6:00 PM, kids are not allowed on it. They can't be on it.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 44:29 Really?

Joe Rogan 44:30 It won't, it won't let them on it. Second of all, when you're on it, the difference between, like, TikTok in America is, like, dances and people doing pranks and people doing things to try to get viral views. In China, it highlights, uh, scientific achievements, athletic achievements. It highlights, like, people doing things, accomplishing things.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 44:48 Wow.

Joe Rogan 44:48 And it, it, it's, it's-

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 44:49 So it's a l- a lot more curated.

Joe Rogan 44:51 Y- yes, much more, but curated by the CCP where they're trying or, or w- you know, whatever, in conjunction with, where they're trying to elevate the quality of the lives of the kids that are addicted to this TikTok. So instead of i- them being addict- addicted to, like, putting piss in the hand soap container-

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 45:09 (laughs) Yeah.

Joe Rogan 45:09 ... instead of doing something like that, like, "Ho, ho, ho"-

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 45:12 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 45:12 ... what they're doing is, like, uh, showing science experiments. They're showing innovation. They're showing kids, uh, accomplishing great athletic goals and it's-

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 45:19 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 45:19 ... it's motivating people to do good things and improve themselves, which is totally possible here, but the problem is you would have to have some sort of a, like, a overview, like some sort of Orwellian restrictions-

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 45:32 Oh, where to inject it.

Joe Rogan 45:32 ... brought down from the governments to-

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 45:34 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 45:34 ... like, make sure that kids only see that kind of thing.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 45:37 But here in America, if you did that, like, people just wouldn't use it.

Joe Rogan 45:39 Exactly.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 45:39 They'd be like, "Oh, well, fuck this."

Joe Rogan 45:40 Yes, exactly.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 45:40 "I'm, I'm going, I'm going to Instagram Reels or YouTube."

Joe Rogan 45:43 Exactly.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 45:44 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 45:44 So do you put stuff on TikTok as well?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 45:46 Yeah. We, we use TikTok, um, so I'm, like-

Joe Rogan 45:48 So you have, like, a team that does all that kind of jobs?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 45:50 Exactly. I'd say, like, one or 2% of my time go to TikTok. Like, 90-plus percent goes to YouTube-

Joe Rogan 45:55 Mm-hmm.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 45:55 ... 'cause essentially, like, at the end of the day, like, the most, the, I can, I can hire, like, creative people to, to help come up with, like, bits. I can hire production people to help do the, the videos and editors, but the only thing I can't outsource is, like, me actually filming, you know?

Joe Rogan 46:09 Mm-hmm.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 46:09 At the end of the day, that's, like, the only thing that, like, I'm the only person, well, that can do. So in an ideal world, I spend as much time as my, or much of my time as possible filming and not doing other stuff 'cause we have multiple different channels and, and stuff like that. So, like, peak performance would be me, like, 90% of my work week is just filming shit and, and nothing else.

Joe Rogan 46:26 Yeah, I mean, when you're in the middle of all of this and you have all this stuff going on, whether it's the social media stuff and the filming stuff and the coming up with the new content and new ideas and then-

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 46:36 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 46:36 ... managing the fact that you have 100 fucking people working for m-

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 46:39 Well, we haven't even gotten into the side companies or the side channels either, yeah.

Joe Rogan 46:42 No, the, the Beast Burgers and all that jazz.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 46:44 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 46:44 What, first of all, where is MrBeast Burger? How many of them do you have?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 46:47 Uh, so right now we don't have any physical. We have 1,600 virtual restaurants.

Joe Rogan 46:51 Oh, so you-

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 46:52 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 46:52 ... order it online and then they deliver it?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 46:54 Yeah, so, like, uh, let's say you own a mom and pop restaurant. You, you literally just sign up, um, go through the course so you learn how to make all the stuff on our menu, and you just order our ingredients and our packaging, and then you just flick it on on Uber Eats, DoorDash, Grubhub, and you can start taking orders.... and we'll let you keep a majority of the revenue. So, it's basically like-

Joe Rogan 47:10 Oh.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 47:10 ... it's a win-win for restaurants, especially when COVID first hit, it was, like, huge for a lot of restaurants, because I was pushing it really hard back then. And like, some restaurants were literally laying off people, and then they started, uh, serving Beast Burger, and some of them are doing like $10,000 a week. Uh, not ... Like, in total revenue, so whatever, their cut was lower. But it allowed them to not have to like wa- lay off part of their workforce or- or keep their employees and stuff like that. Um, and- and so yeah.

Joe Rogan 47:33 And this idea came out of what?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 47:35 Uh, we were approached by some company and, uh, and the more I thought about it, the more I just realized it was just a great idea. So, we have a partner, a guy, basically a guy who's been doing restaurants his whole life. He ... So, actually that's how we started, because he owned 300 restaurants, so we launched with three, his 300 restaurants. And then like that first day, they all sold out. They- they were having to like run to local stores to buy ingredients to keep up with orders. Like, the Uber Eats like delivery lines were like out the door. It was- it was pretty bad, so we had to like quickly expand up, um, and we've just been adding like 50 restaurants a week ever since.

Joe Rogan 48:04 Wow!

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 48:05 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:05 That's amazing.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 48:05 And so now we're about to start doing our first physical restaurants as well and that should be fun.

Joe Rogan 48:10 Your mom must be so baffled. A kid she thought wasn't doing jack shit in school-

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 48:14 (laughs) Yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:14 ... now he's creating virtual restaurants?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 48:17 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:17 It's- it's incredible, man. That's-

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 48:19 Yeah. It's- it's actually insane, when ... And so we've been doing it for like, probably like 15 months now, and we're about to cross, uh, $100 million in top line revenue across the restaurants.

Joe Rogan 48:29 Wow!

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 48:30 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:30 So, that's one side business.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 48:31 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:31 What other side businesses do you have?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 48:33 So, we just launched our- our snack brand, um, which is ... Our- our first thing is a chocolate bar. It's a ... Just basically like only four ingredients, just a slightly healthier version of a chocolate bar. The problem is if you make things too healthy, which is what I've found with my restaurant, is that I would love to wean people off like super unhealthy stuff, but if you ... Like, we did a lettuce wrap, like where you just replace the bun with lettuce. No one orders it. If you go like too extreme on the healthy side, just no one cares. Um, so it's like I've found like the best spot is just to make things like 20% healthier and then people still order it. If not, then it's just useless. Um, so I wanted to do a snack brand and I'm experimenting with that, so it's just basically this slightly better for you chocolate bar, just higher quality ingredients, a little bit less ingredients.

Joe Rogan 49:11 And what do you put in it?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 49:11 Um, well, you can just pull it up.

Joe Rogan 49:13 There it is, MrBeast Bar.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 49:14 I mean, like I said, it's not crazy healthy, but, um, and we didn't-

Joe Rogan 49:17 Yeah, it's got quinoa in it. Yuck.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 49:19 Um, I love that one.

Joe Rogan 49:21 (laughs)

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 49:22 I have no ... I have some out there. I'll have you do a taste test on it. I think it's good.

Joe Rogan 49:24 I'm sure it's good, quinoa mixed with choc- Uh, bro, they put chocolate on ants and people eat it. You know? I mean, everything with chocolate is good.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 49:31 Well, and so our- our big marketing stunt for this, because everything I do has got to, you know-

Joe Rogan 49:35 Right.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 49:35 ... have it be a spectacle, is ten random people are going to get flown down to compete before a chocolate factory in a video, um. And-

Joe Rogan 49:41 (laughs)

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 49:41 Yeah. So, we're- we're still working on building the chocolate factory. That's what I was doing yesterday before I flew out here, uh-

Joe Rogan 49:46 So, when you say a chocolate factory, is it going to be a real place that makes chocolate?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 49:49 No, it's going to be kind of like the Willy Wonka one where it's like decked out. I ... Most people, I feel like, are just going to take the money instead. I'm going to ... They can keep the chocolate factory or I'll just give them like half a million dollars. 99% of people, I feel like, would rather just take the money.

Joe Rogan 50:01 Yeah.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 50:01 But-

Joe Rogan 50:01 Because then you'd have to sell the chocolate factory.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 50:03 Exactly.

Joe Rogan 50:03 Yeah.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 50:03 Because it's ... Yeah, like because in Willy Wonka it's not like it was a chocolate factory. It was like, you know, they had the chocolate river and- and all that.

Joe Rogan 50:09 Right. Right.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 50:09 So, like that's what we're trying to figure out right now. Like, we're literally building like a chocolate river and I'm trying to figure out like how do you keep chocolate flowing and from going bad and like being fucking disgusting and shit like that.

Joe Rogan 50:18 So, does your ... You- you said you were trying to make your chocolate bars healthier. Do you use like stevia for sweeteners or is it just all sugar? Like, what is it?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 50:25 Um, I mean, honestly, I'm still educating myself in- in this stuff, so I- I'd rather not go in depth, because you could probably run circles around me on this type of stuff. Uh-

Joe Rogan 50:34 Nutrition stuff, yeah.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 50:35 Yeah, exactly. Um, just I think just like, uh, just getting the ... Here, I mean, just pull it up and you just roast them. You're free, why don't-

Joe Rogan 50:42 Oh, okay. Let's see the ingredients. So, here we go. Created by experts or organic ingredients?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 50:46 Just scroll up. No, no, just where-

Narrator 50:48 It didn't say the ingredient list.

Joe Rogan 50:49 Uh.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 50:50 Does it have an ingredients list?

Joe Rogan 50:51 Yeah.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 50:51 About? In about, maybe? Yeah, hit about. I can also probably just pull it up.

Narrator 50:55 If I was on the about page. There must be something I'm not clicking somewhere.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 51:00 Here, if you want to just search for it and then pull it up once you find it?

Narrator 51:02 All right. Yep, yep.

Joe Rogan 51:04 Um, so, uh, other than that, is ... Are there other businesses you have that are like side brands?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 51:09 Yeah. So, the- the dub channels I showed you, we are actually ... We're building a dub studio in Mexico and we're building dub studios across the world, and we're actually doing that for other creators as well. So, like-

Joe Rogan 51:18 So, you ... So, to dub foreign languages onto English videos?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 51:21 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 51:22 You-

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 51:22 So, if- if you were a YouTuber and you wanted your videos in a bunch of other languages, just come to us. We'll- we'll start up the channels, we'll, uh, translate the thumbnails, translate the content, do it all for you.

Joe Rogan 51:30 So, you have like a whole business set up in Mexico?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 51:33 Uh, well, we have ... Our business is Unilingo.

Joe Rogan 51:35 There it is.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 51:35 We're based-

Joe Rogan 51:36 Sugar cane, cocoa bean, cocoa powder-

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 51:39 Sunflower.

Joe Rogan 51:40 Sunflower lectin, lecithin. Um, so that's all that's in there?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 51:43 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 51:44 That's good. Uh, total sugar. Where's that? Oh.

Narrator 51:50 13.

Joe Rogan 51:50 Okay, total sugar.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 51:51 It's- it's whatever.

Joe Rogan 51:53 14 grams.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 51:53 Like I said, that's ... I wanted to take it extreme, but the problem is if you go too extreme, then no one will order it, so-

Joe Rogan 51:58 Right.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 51:58 That's where like I- I'll admit, it's not like the healthiest possible.

Joe Rogan 52:01 It's a snack though.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 52:02 Yeah, exactly.

Joe Rogan 52:03 Not supposed to be that healthy. It's a fucking chocolate bar.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 52:05 But eventually if we could crack the code, that's what I'd love. Like, because, you know, most of the food we eat is fucking garbage for us.

Joe Rogan 52:11 Yeah.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 52:11 And so I wish there ... you could just be like, "Yo, this is the perfect chocolate bar," and then we just magically get people to actually eat it.

Joe Rogan 52:17 Are you ... You said you work out a lot?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 52:19 ... uh, I'm starting to get into it. But, no.

Joe Rogan 52:20 Yeah?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 52:21 It's... The problem is it's, like, so we just have so much shit going on.

Joe Rogan 52:25 Right.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 52:25 And it's, like, one week I'm burying myself alive, the next week we're dealing with Squid Game. When I'm not, like, not filming, it's so fucking easy-

Joe Rogan 52:31 Right.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 52:31 ... like, to work out. But it's, like, it's hard to, like, get a routine going because, like, like, we just went to South Africa, and we were going to Antarctica for, uh, a couple of days. And, like, that's like a 12-day trip. And, you know, it's, so it's like... It's weird.

Joe Rogan 52:42 I get it.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 52:42 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 52:43 Yeah.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 52:43 But, uh, but I'm also being a pussy. Like, in an ideal world, I, I should be working out way more consistent than I am.

Joe Rogan 52:48 Listen, man, just relax on yourself. Sounds like you're doing a lot. (laughs)

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 52:51 (laughs) I don't-

Joe Rogan 52:51 You're getting a lot done.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 52:52 I wanna be the best.

Joe Rogan 52:53 Well, it's am- well, you obviously are trying to do that, because you're, uh, amazingly accomplished at 23 years old. It's super impressive.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 53:00 Thank you.

Joe Rogan 53:00 So when you're going to, like, South Africa, like, what did you do in South Africa?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 53:04 Uh, well, we were... We just flew to South Africa, uh, as a stop to Antarctica, but annoyingly when we were about to get on the plane to go to Antarctica, 'cause we were gonna spend 50 hours in Antarctica, we were, we were obso- we were gonna climb a mountain that's never been climbed before in Antarcti- Antarctica, do all this cool shit. Uh, the p- the group that went before us gave the, the group in Antarctica COVID.

Joe Rogan 53:24 Oh no.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 53:25 Everyone there had COVID.

Joe Rogan 53:26 No way.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 53:26 So they had to leave.

Joe Rogan 53:27 Great.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 53:27 And so there was no one there to clear the ice runway for us to land, so we, we end- we went to South Africa and then literally just flew back-

Joe Rogan 53:32 Oh.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 53:33 ... 'cause we, we couldn't go to Antarctica. I know, it's brutal. And there's only a little window where you can go to Antarctica, uh, twice a year. One's in February. And because of that, the, the window was missed, so now we can't go and begin-

Joe Rogan 53:42 They don't test the people before they fly to Antarctica? I would think that's-

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 53:45 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 53:45 ... so isolated. That would be, like-

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 53:46 I know.

Joe Rogan 53:47 They have to test you if you're gonna go to the Bahamas.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 53:49 I know. I mean-

Joe Rogan 53:50 (laughs)

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 53:50 ... I don't know how it happened, but yeah, so, uh, now we can't go again until November, which is annoying 'cause, like, we had already... We had been working on that video for over a month. Uh, you know, like, "We're gonna go to this part and play with the penguins. We're gonna climb this mountain." The content was, like, phenomenal. And you're out there, we have the team, you're in Africa ready to go there.

Joe Rogan 54:06 Wow.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 54:06 And then it's just like, nope. And so it's, like, it's also opportunity cost 'cause we could've been filming a video that would've gotten uploaded, which that's why I haven't uploaded in a month, 'cause that fell through. And so it's, like, not only did that fall apart, but it's, like, the opportunity cost is it sucks.

Joe Rogan 54:19 Now, that sounds a little dangerous, like, you're, you're climbing a mountain.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 54:24 Um, I mean, we have experts there. You know, like, they'll make sure we're safe.

Joe Rogan 54:28 Right, but you're climbing a mountain in Antarctica. I mean, it seems just, just by nature.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 54:33 I mean, the, uh, the, the, the company we were working with does this stuff all the time, and they assured us it was safe, so, like, I mean-

Joe Rogan 54:39 Have you ever seen that film, uh, Twelve Peaks?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 54:41 Uh, my friend actually recommended it, but I haven't seen it yet.

Joe Rogan 54:43 It's incredible. It's incredible. It's really wild. But one of the more confusing moments is when you recognize how many people climb Mount Everest. And there was one part where there was a window, a small window of good weather, and so the queue of people trying to get to the top of Mount Everest-

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 55:01 Yep.

Joe Rogan 55:01 ... was hundreds of people long.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 55:03 I saw the, like, a picture on Twitter, but-

Joe Rogan 55:05 Yes.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 55:05 ... like, near the peak there's, like, 50 people waiting to go.

Joe Rogan 55:07 Yeah.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 55:07 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 55:08 The, the star of the film, he, he took that photo. That's one-

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 55:12 Wow.

Joe Rogan 55:12 ... of them. He took, like, a photo of the people in front of him that were trying to get up to this mountain, the top of, uh, Everest.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 55:18 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 55:18 Yeah, it's, um... That's a weird one because it's so... It used to be this thing where it was like, you know, you would go to this far off land and you would cri- climb this rugged mountain and there was no one out there and it was so hard to do, but now hundreds of people in a day. Look at that.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 55:36 Craz- Oh, wow.

Joe Rogan 55:37 Yeah.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 55:37 I didn't see that one.

Joe Rogan 55:38 Yeah.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 55:38 That's insane.

Joe Rogan 55:39 That's the...

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 55:41 I mean, even crazier, you got, like, the, like, the free solo guy just climbing it without anything.

Joe Rogan 55:45 Yeah, well, he doesn't do this stuff. He-

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 55:47 No, no.

Joe Rogan 55:47 He's-

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 55:47 But yeah.

Joe Rogan 55:47 Yeah, but Alex Honnold, he's been on a couple of times. He's a fascinating guy.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 55:51 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 55:51 He scares the shit out of me.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 55:52 I would love to speak to him.

Joe Rogan 55:52 Just talking to him, my hands start sweating just talking to him.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 55:56 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 55:56 Just, like, what he does 'cause it's like he's up 1500, 2000 feet hanging on by his fingertips-

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 56:03 Ugh.

Joe Rogan 56:03 ... with a bag of chalk.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 56:04 Just hearing you say it is making my hands-

Joe Rogan 56:06 I know, dude.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 56:07 ... literally sweat. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 56:07 When, when you s- watch videos of him do it and he's just so kind of calm and chill about it and he's g-... He's very, i- in the nicest way, like, almost innocent and childlike in the way he talks, like, his, his eyebrows are... Look at that! Look at that!

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 56:22 Oh my God. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 56:22 Fucking Jesus Christ, man. That's so crazy that... I mean-

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 56:28 Wow.

Joe Rogan 56:28 He's hanging by his fingertips. Fuck all that.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 56:32 (laughs) Gosh dang it. That's funny.

Joe Rogan 56:35 And, you know, the, the real weird thing is experts are convinced that he's going to die. Like, the real experts. Like, how many of those images are there of him doing that, man?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 56:44 Well, I mean-

Joe Rogan 56:44 He's basically hanging by his fingers.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 56:47 There, there ultimately are probably variables occasionally out of his control.

Joe Rogan 56:50 Look at that. Look at that photo.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 56:51 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 56:51 Look at that photo.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 56:52 That's insane.

Joe Rogan 56:53 Fuck that.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 56:54 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 56:54 Look... Oh, Jesus Christ.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 56:55 I mean, like, bro, if someone was like, a b- a billion dollars to do this and climb to the top of the mountain and gave me five years to train, I would say, "Fuck no."

Joe Rogan 57:03 Fuck no. And the thing is, like, he'll tell you he's not even the best climber in the world, which is really wild. Like, there's guys at it that are better at it than him. He just has a knack for doing this and, and doing it without any ropes and he can... He stays calm, you know? He knows how to just find his way up and concentrate entirely on the task at hand. And the guy lo-... Look at that fucking-

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 57:30 Oh my gosh. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 57:31 ... guy, Jesus Christ. Look at my hands. Feel my hands. Feel my hands.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 57:33 Yeah, I mean, mine are sweaty. I'm good. I don't-

Joe Rogan 57:35 You don't trust me?

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 57:35 I don't want the Joe Rogan sweat on me.

Joe Rogan 57:37 It's good sweat.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 57:37 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 57:38 It's very healthy. It's got a lot of nutrients. But that... I mean, that kind of stuff, you're not gonna fuck around with, like, mountain climbers and everything.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 57:44 No.

Joe Rogan 57:45 No. Don't do that. Don't die, man. You're, you're too important.

MrBeast (Jimmy Donaldson) 57:48 Trust me, you don't, you don't have to tell me. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 57:50 But c- the Antarctica thing when you said you're gonna climb