Joe Rogan Experience #1794 - Monty Franklin

1. 0:00 – 1:26

   Accents, cigars, and Monty’s Florida year

   1. NANarrator0:00

      (drumbeats) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience. (rock music)

   2. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. Oh.

   3. MFMonty Franklin0:13

      There you go. Jesus.

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:15

      That's a ... what the British would say, a proper cigar lighter. (lighter clicks)

   5. MFMonty Franklin0:20

      Was that your British accent?

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:22

      Yeah, it was terrible. Can't tell if I'm from New Zealand, Britain, Scotland. (laughs)

   7. MFMonty Franklin0:28

      No, it was as shit. It's a ... (laughs)

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:30

      (laughs) How many people, like, that don't know you're from Australia think you're British? 'Cause they, like-

   9. MFMonty Franklin0:37

      I never get it. I always get Australian.

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:39

       Really?

   11. MFMonty Franklin0:39

       I've never been called anything else. Uh, maybe a ... Maybe New Zealand or, or, um, British o- once, but ...

   12. JRJoe Rogan0:47

       But that's amazing 'cause you lived in Florida for a year. That basically is another country. They don't know what the fuck's going on in the rest of the world.

   13. MFMonty Franklin0:54

       I love it. It's so funny.

   14. JRJoe Rogan0:55

       The people that stay in Florida-

   15. MFMonty Franklin0:56

       (laughs)

   16. JRJoe Rogan0:56

       ... Florida, it's like they ... It's like 1985 and they just said, "No, we're just gonna stay here." Everything's fluorescent and the buildings haven't been updated since ... Everything's strange. And- What part of Florida are you living in?

   17. MFMonty Franklin1:08

       We were in Orlando for a year.

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:09

       Oh, okay, so that's Disneyland. That's a, that's a weird place anyway. Disney World. That's a weird place anyway because it's all Disnified.

   19. MFMonty Franklin1:15

       Yeah. It's like D- Disney ... Like, half the people work for Disney in Orlando-

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:19

       Yeah.

   21. MFMonty Franklin1:19

       ... just walking around and stuff. It's, uh, it's a strange place. I, I, I enjoyed the time that we were there, but I'm glad that we're leaving. Sorry, Orlando.

2. 1:26 – 6:22

   Pandemic rules whiplash: Hawaii masking, N95s, and clown-world policies

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:26

      (laughs) It's a fun place to stay during the pandemic, I'm sure.

   2. MFMonty Franklin1:31

      Yeah, I mean, everything was op- ... Well-

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:32

      'Cause they act like it doesn't ... it's not real. (laughs)

   4. MFMonty Franklin1:33

      Well, no, they ... Nothing happened there. There was no pandemic.

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:37

      (laughs)

   6. MFMonty Franklin1:37

      Everyone just lived their lives and carried on and went to boat regattas and made out with each other in the streets.

   7. JRJoe Rogan1:43

      Yeah, I was talking to Stanhope and, uh ... Stanhope, by the way, never got COVID, which is amazing. Amazing. I mean, if anybody's been compromised-

   8. MFMonty Franklin1:51

      He probably got COVID 20 years ago and he's had it that whole time or something and ... (laughs)

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:55

      It's a joke he has. He says he's been experiencing COVID-like symptoms for the past 30 years. But he, uh-

   10. MFMonty Franklin2:02

       (laughs)

   11. JRJoe Rogan2:02

       He was traveling to, like, Wyoming and Montana, and he goes ... And they were like, "You know, we never had any restrictions." There's places that just never locked anything down.

   12. MFMonty Franklin2:11

       I wonder if there's ... I mean, was ... No, I was gonna say Hawaii, but Hawaii was pretty locked down, wasn't it?

   13. JRJoe Rogan2:16

       Oh, they're, they're still locked down. I was just there.

   14. MFMonty Franklin2:18

       Really?

   15. JRJoe Rogan2:18

       I was there last week and they made me put a mask on in the gym. I'm like, "Well, cut the shit."

   16. MFMonty Franklin2:23

       Uh.

   17. JRJoe Rogan2:23

       I'm in the r- I'm in the restaurant, I don't have to wear a mask. I'm in the gym, I do. Like, where's the logic? Tell me what ... Because I'm breathing harder?

   18. MFMonty Franklin2:31

       Yeah. COVID doesn't go into the restaurant. He's at the gym.

   19. JRJoe Rogan2:33

       Like, I'm at the ... You have to get tested to even get into the fucking state. Like, you have to have a test. You do a, a, a PCR test to get into the state.

   20. MFMonty Franklin2:39

       When-

   21. JRJoe Rogan2:39

       So they know you don't have COVID and then you get there. No one has COVID there. Everyone in the resort ... I was staying at the Four Seasons. Everybody-

   22. MFMonty Franklin2:46

       Oh, nice.

   23. JRJoe Rogan2:46

       ... has been tested. It's very nice.

   24. MFMonty Franklin2:47

       (laughs)

   25. JRJoe Rogan2:48

       Very nice place. Nice gym too. But it's fucking ... It's, it's preposterous. And not only that, you're wearing this surgical mask. These fucking stupid paper masks don't do a goddamn thing anyway.

   26. MFMonty Franklin3:00

       No.

   27. JRJoe Rogan3:00

       Like, when I talked to Michael Osterholm, uh, the g- ... Uh, it's infectious disease expert, he was explaining the ... why these N95 masks work. He's like, "That's what you want." If you're ... You really think you're in contact with something and you wanna, like, prevent any kind of infection, he goes, "You should have a N95 mask." And what is he saying about... Something about the magnetic ... Something about it?

   28. NANarrator3:21

       Yeah, yeah, there's electrostatic charge or something. It's-

   29. JRJoe Rogan3:23

       Right. And somehow or another it literally, like, stops the particles in, in the mask itself. I'm like, "Oh."

   30. MFMonty Franklin3:30

       And th- ... And that's the only one that does it.
3. 6:22 – 7:50

   Variants, treatments, and antibodies: Delta vs. Omicron experiences

   1. JRJoe Rogan6:22

      This new shit, this Omicron, you could, like, be passing by someone and they sneeze and you got it.

   2. MFMonty Franklin6:26

      But it's over now. No one's talking about the next variants and stuff. It's, uh, it's like COVID got canceled. It had a couple of good seasons and then the antagonist wasn't powerful enough, so they've gone onto another show. It ... (laughs)

   3. JRJoe Rogan6:37

      Well, luckily this new variant is very mild, Omicron. Although so many people are saying, like, people are still getting hospitalized, but maybe.... but those people likely are severely compromised, because I had it and it was ... o- o- obviously, I had the original COVID, but that wasn't that bad for me, either.

   4. MFMonty Franklin6:55

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan6:55

      But the new COVID is a fucking breeze.

   6. MFMonty Franklin6:59

      I don't know which one I had.

   7. JRJoe Rogan7:00

      You probably had the Delta, 'cause if you had it in October, is that when, that's when you had it?

   8. MFMonty Franklin7:04

      I think so. Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan7:05

      You probably had Delta. I had, uh, I had Delta, and then I also had Omicron. And Omicron was ... But again, I had antibodies from Delta. Omicron was ... I couldn't believe it was COVID. I mean, I had, (sniffs) I had, like, sniffles.

   10. MFMonty Franklin7:18

       Right.

   11. JRJoe Rogan7:18

       And I was like, "Really?" And then the next day, I was negative. I tested negative the next day. I was like, "This is crazy."

   12. MFMonty Franklin7:24

       Did you do all the same shit-

   13. JRJoe Rogan7:26

       Like, this is pretty mild.

   14. MFMonty Franklin7:26

       ... or you just kind of let it-

   15. JRJoe Rogan7:27

       Same shit, same shit.

   16. MFMonty Franklin7:27

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan7:28

       Vitamin D, IV drips, monoclonal antibodies, everything.

   18. MFMonty Franklin7:31

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan7:32

       That's the, the ticket, I think, is the monoclonal antibodies.

   20. MFMonty Franklin7:35

       I went to try and get them, but it was, it was like 1,200 bucks or something, and I just went, "Nah."

   21. JRJoe Rogan7:40

       Well, they're supposed to be free.

   22. MFMonty Franklin7:41

       (laughs)

   23. JRJoe Rogan7:41

       They're free in a lot of places. They were free in Texas. They're free in Florida.

   24. MFMonty Franklin7:43

       Yeah, I don't, I don't know how the health system works here and I don't know what I've got-

   25. JRJoe Rogan7:46

       Um ...

   26. MFMonty Franklin7:46

       ... and I'm not a citizen.

   27. JRJoe Rogan7:47

       (laughs)

   28. MFMonty Franklin7:48

       And (laughs) I don't know what I'm allowed to do.

4. 7:50 – 9:54

   Immigration paperwork for comics: O-1 visas, green cards, and ‘exceptional ability’

   1. JRJoe Rogan7:50

      Yeah, are you illegal or are you, well, you're ... Uh, are you married yet? Did you get married yet?

   2. MFMonty Franklin7:53

      Uh, I am, yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan7:54

      Yeah.

   4. MFMonty Franklin7:55

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan7:55

      So you're legal now. You're, you married an American.

   6. MFMonty Franklin7:57

      Well, I, I-

   7. JRJoe Rogan7:57

      Good job, by the way.

   8. MFMonty Franklin7:58

      (laughs) Thank you. I-

   9. JRJoe Rogan7:58

      You chose wisely.

   10. MFMonty Franklin7:59

       (laughs) I had a, um, I had a green card before that, so. 'Cause I came here on what was an O-1 working visa, and then, uh, after three years or something like that, you can get the green card.

   11. JRJoe Rogan8:09

       Is it hard for a comic to get a working visa in a, in America?

   12. MFMonty Franklin8:12

       Yes. It's hard for anyone to get a working visa.

   13. JRJoe Rogan8:14

       But I think as a comic, like, there's not that many of us.

   14. MFMonty Franklin8:17

       It's not that. You have to, uh ... It says on the form you have to prove that you're an, uh, alien of exceptional ability and you can do a job here that no one else can do here, so you have to prove ... (laughs) This is what it says. I had to prove to the government here that me not being here was an injustice to the en- uh, entertainment industry. Like, I, they were, you know, doing-

   15. JRJoe Rogan8:42

       Well, if you want someone to tell comedy about being from Australia-

   16. MFMonty Franklin8:46

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan8:46

       ... and moving to America-

   18. MFMonty Franklin8:47

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan8:47

       ... there's r- w- you and Jim Jefferies.

   20. MFMonty Franklin8:49

       That's it. That's, yeah, it's just us.

   21. JRJoe Rogan8:50

       Who the fuck else is out there?

   22. MFMonty Franklin8:51

       There's a few, but not that are touring around as much as, like, Jim and I are, and, and, you know, there's a couple in LA and probably New York that I don't know.

   23. JRJoe Rogan8:58

       I don't know anybody else but you guys.

   24. MFMonty Franklin9:00

       There's a couple in LA that are, that are, that are good but, you know, they just-

   25. JRJoe Rogan9:04

       I beli- I believe it.

   26. MFMonty Franklin9:04

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan9:04

       But I mean as far as, like, people that I'm aware of?

   28. MFMonty Franklin9:06

       Yeah, it is-

   29. JRJoe Rogan9:07

       I know you and I know Jim.

   30. MFMonty Franklin9:09

       Jim and I are the only ones who are touring around the country, and-
5. 9:54 – 12:11

   Fax apps, DocuSign, and unreliable memories

   1. JRJoe Rogan9:54

      Do people still fax?

   2. MFMonty Franklin9:55

      Uh, there's three people that still fax, and they just-

   3. JRJoe Rogan9:57

      (laughs)

   4. MFMonty Franklin9:57

      ... fax each other. And they go-

   5. JRJoe Rogan9:59

      Because-

   6. MFMonty Franklin9:59

      ... "Hey, you still got the fax machine?" And he goes, "Yep, got it."

   7. JRJoe Rogan10:02

      I, I remember-

   8. MFMonty Franklin10:02

      (laughs)

   9. JRJoe Rogan10:02

      ... I think I had an app on my phone that faxed, like during the, the early day- ... It might have been on a Blackberry. Um, I might be making this up now. I think maybe it was an Android phone. Is there are fax apps. Is that correct, Jamie? Am I making this up?

   10. MFMonty Franklin10:17

       I think you're right.

   11. JRJoe Rogan10:19

       I know y-

   12. MFMonty Franklin10:19

       Like DocuSend type things or something.

   13. JRJoe Rogan10:21

       DocuSend is like ... Oh, that's different than DocuSign. DocuSign makes me laugh. Every time I have to DocuSign something, 'cause I just click on this little thing-

   14. MFMonty Franklin10:30

       Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan10:30

       ... and it just says my name-

   16. MFMonty Franklin10:31

       (laughs)

   17. JRJoe Rogan10:31

       ... and it's not my real signature, but the ... It's like a fake version-

   18. MFMonty Franklin10:35

       Yeah, (laughs) you're right.

   19. JRJoe Rogan10:36

       ... of my signature.

   20. MFMonty Franklin10:36

       It's one they've generated.

   21. JRJoe Rogan10:38

       But, like, I'm doing this for, like, giant deals, like big, important things worth a shit ton of money, and I'm just like, click, there's my fake signature.

   22. MFMonty Franklin10:47

       (laughs)

   23. JRJoe Rogan10:47

       Click, there's my fake signature.

   24. MFMonty Franklin10:48

       "Is this your signature, sir?" "No."

   25. JRJoe Rogan10:50

       Like, what is that?

   26. MFMonty Franklin10:50

       (laughs)

   27. JRJoe Rogan10:51

       Like, when are we gonna stop doing this? When do we stop, stop signing things?

   28. GUGuest10:54

       There are fax apps.

   29. JRJoe Rogan10:56

       Yeah.

   30. GUGuest10:56

       Um, but, but it sound ... I'm reading what they do, it sounds like they just kinda send email. They're, like, sending pictures of PDFs-
6. 12:11 – 16:14

   Cancellation, apologies, and the justice system’s ‘winning’ incentives

   1. MFMonty Franklin12:11

      (laughs) Did you watch Louis' new special?

   2. JRJoe Rogan12:13

      It's great.

   3. MFMonty Franklin12:13

      Isn't it great? It's just classic old U-

   4. JRJoe Rogan12:15

      It's very good.

   5. MFMonty Franklin12:15

      ... Louis. You know what he is? He's, he's your dirty uncle at the Christmas table who's being just a little bit gross.

   6. JRJoe Rogan12:21

      Yeah.

   7. MFMonty Franklin12:21

      And it's just so fun to watch.

   8. JRJoe Rogan12:22

      Oh, well, you know what? He, he's got a certain amount of freedom now that he's been, like, royally canceled.

   9. MFMonty Franklin12:27

      Right, right.

   10. JRJoe Rogan12:28

       You know? And the, the, the wonderful thing is the backdrop that has giant, lit up letters-

   11. MFMonty Franklin12:33

       (laughs)

   12. JRJoe Rogan12:33

       ... that says sorry.

   13. MFMonty Franklin12:35

       (laughs) And he comes out and just kinda like, "Uh," like that's his look, like, "I'm sorry, I did it and let's just move on."

   14. JRJoe Rogan12:42

       Yeah. (clears throat) Some people don't wanna accept it. It's, it's very strange.

   15. MFMonty Franklin12:46

       Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan12:46

       So, the, the idea that you don't wanna ever let ... Allow a person to apologize and, and come back from something. It's like, okay, well, are you without fail?

   17. MFMonty Franklin12:56

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan12:57

       You know, do ... But if someone goes digging into your life-

   19. MFMonty Franklin12:59

       Oh, there's no one who's not gonna get-

   20. JRJoe Rogan13:01

       Yeah. No. Especially if some people have some distorted versions of what happened with you. Like, you know, people have like ... We- we're talking about memories.

   21. MFMonty Franklin13:08

       Mm-hmm.

   22. JRJoe Rogan13:08

       Like my memory of this facts thing.

   23. MFMonty Franklin13:10

       (laughs)

   24. JRJoe Rogan13:10

       People have fucking ... Memories are shit. Like, this is the thing about memory. And, you know, I wanna ... Uh, Neil Degrasse Tyson is really into this 'cause we, we had a conversation about it when ... In regards to, like, crimes. When someone is an eyewitness of a crime, he's like, "That is the least reliable piece of evidence."

   25. MFMonty Franklin13:26

       'Cause they don't accept it in court, right?

   26. JRJoe Rogan13:28

       Uh, eyewitnesses get ... Listen, man. People, uh, they arrest people all the time when they do a police lineup and it's the wrong person. It happens all the time, where, uh, uh, someone could be assaulted and they'll look at a police lineup and be sure that this is the guy that did it to them, and it's not. And that person winds up going to jail. It happens all the time. They get tried, they get convicted wrongly. You know, the problem with it is, and I've been working with, uh, Josh Dubin, who's an ambassador for the Innocence Project. There's a real problem with once the ball is in motion, like once you get arrested for a crime, and then the prosecuting attorneys, and then the defense attorneys get involved, and then the DA. And there's, there's a game that's going on, and the game is the prosecutors are trying to prove you guilty, and your defense attorney is trying to prove you innocent.

   27. MFMonty Franklin14:17

       Mm.

   28. JRJoe Rogan14:17

       And they're trying to win. Both sides are trying to win. And when people try to win, they withhold evidence, they hide data. They, they find out that there might be something that could exonerate you. I mean, that was the thing with Kamala Harris. Like she was ... This was something that Dubin talked about on my podcast. When she was the DA in San Francisco, she withheld ... She was fighting to withhold evidence that would exonerate innocent people. This is a thing they do on a regular basis. This is a, a real problem with the justice system.

   29. MFMonty Franklin14:45

       Yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan14:45

       And when you talk with a guy like Dubin, who does this work with the Innocence Project and regularly frees people. The last podcast we did, not the last one, but the time before, two people were freed that were on death-
7. 16:14 – 22:24

   Australia’s animals: koala fingerprints, kangaroo boxing, and the outback’s emptiness

   1. MFMonty Franklin16:14

      You know, um ... Do you know koalas have the same fingerprints as humans and they get, uh, they get confused with them at crime scenes all the time? Like, with human fingerprints and koala fingerprints.

   2. JRJoe Rogan16:22

      Whoa.

   3. MFMonty Franklin16:23

      And then they go, "Actually, we can't tell if it was the koala or that guy, so we're just gonna have to let this go," (laughs) whatever they do.

   4. JRJoe Rogan16:28

      If you killed a koala and used his hands just to-

   5. MFMonty Franklin16:30

      (laughs)

   6. JRJoe Rogan16:30

      ... open doors and shit and, and-

   7. MFMonty Franklin16:32

      Putting it up to the-

   8. JRJoe Rogan16:33

      Yeah.

   9. MFMonty Franklin16:33

      ... to the thing.

   10. JRJoe Rogan16:34

       Put the knife in the koala hand, stab somebody with it.

   11. MFMonty Franklin16:37

       "It was the koala." (laughs)

   12. JRJoe Rogan16:38

       Can you imagine that? Like, "I think it's a person."

   13. MFMonty Franklin16:41

       Yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan16:41

       Ko- aren't koalas cunts if they don't get their eucalyptus leaves?

   15. MFMonty Franklin16:44

       Yeah. But, uh, they get their eucalyptus leaves. They ... I mean-

   16. JRJoe Rogan16:49

       (laughs)

   17. MFMonty Franklin16:49

       They get what they want.

   18. JRJoe Rogan16:49

       But I hear- but I heard if you don't feed them, they get like ... They look cute.

   19. MFMonty Franklin16:53

       Oh, yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan16:53

       But if they're not getting their, their leaves, they're a fucking bear.

   21. MFMonty Franklin16:56

       Yeah, they're brutal. And they, and they kinda like ... But they're stoned for, you know, 23 hours of the day. So those-

   22. JRJoe Rogan17:03

       They're stoned?

   23. MFMonty Franklin17:04

       Yeah. Eucalyptus leaves have a mild sedative in them, so they eat all these leaves and they're sitting there. And they fall out of trees all the time.

   24. JRJoe Rogan17:11

       Really?

   25. MFMonty Franklin17:11

       Like, that's a thing that happens. Like-

   26. JRJoe Rogan17:12

       They get high and fall out of trees?

   27. MFMonty Franklin17:13

       Yeah, they just get high and they just go ƒ. (laughs)

   28. JRJoe Rogan17:16

       What an Aus- That's an Australian animal.

   29. MFMonty Franklin17:18

       It is. It's th- the only place on Earth where they are.

   30. JRJoe Rogan17:21

       I mean, it seems like an Australian animal, you know? It gets high and falls out of trees.
8. 22:24 – 33:34

   Feral camels, Tiger King America, and drugged-up tiger tourism

   1. MFMonty Franklin22:24

      No, there's animals. But, uh, you know, there's, there's a lot of camels. Did you know that?

   2. JRJoe Rogan22:30

      Camels?

   3. MFMonty Franklin22:30

      Tons of camels, yeah. (laughs)

   4. JRJoe Rogan22:32

      Were they imported?

   5. MFMonty Franklin22:33

      I think so. Uh-

   6. JRJoe Rogan22:34

      You guys have a lot of imported animals, right?

   7. MFMonty Franklin22:36

      Um, yeah, I guess. Camels is the one that I know most of, and I saw a lot of them. And th- they, you know, they got out of control and it was a problem and stuff. I read somewhere that we sell our camels to Saudi Arabia 'cause we've got so many of them. (laughs) Which just seems ridiculous, doesn't it?

   8. JRJoe Rogan22:49

      Well, that's like Hawaii is the place where everybody gets the palm trees for LA. Like, people think that LA has palm trees.

   9. MFMonty Franklin22:55

      Oh, really?

   10. JRJoe Rogan22:55

       ... are from LA. 'Cause you think of Hollywood, you think of palm trees, right?

   11. MFMonty Franklin22:58

       Yeah, yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan22:59

       All of them come from Hawaii.

   13. MFMonty Franklin23:00

       Really?

   14. JRJoe Rogan23:00

       What are you ch- ... Over there, Jamie? What's going on?

   15. NANarrator23:02

       Over a million feral camels in Australia, full metal.

   16. MFMonty Franklin23:05

       (laughs) .

   17. NANarrator23:05

       It's the largest population.

   18. MFMonty Franklin23:07

       Isn't it hilarious?

   19. JRJoe Rogan23:08

       What?

   20. MFMonty Franklin23:08

       (laughs)

   21. JRJoe Rogan23:08

       The largest population of camels is in Australia?

   22. NANarrator23:10

       And the only herd of dromedary camels exhibiting wild behavior in the world.

   23. JRJoe Rogan23:16

       Do you know the largest population of tigers is in Texas?

   24. MFMonty Franklin23:19

       I knew that just from, you know, the ... What was that show? Texas, uh, the Tiger King.

   25. JRJoe Rogan23:23

       Oh, Tiger King? Yeah.

   26. MFMonty Franklin23:24

       The Tiger King. And then, you know, I looked into it and stuff and-

   27. JRJoe Rogan23:26

       Yeah.

   28. MFMonty Franklin23:26

       ... all of that.

   29. JRJoe Rogan23:26

       There's more tigers in captivity in Texas in private collections, like people's backyards, than there are in all of the wild of the world.

   30. MFMonty Franklin23:34

       Uh, that seems very wrong.
9. 33:34 – 41:12

   Raw meat influencers, steroid accusations, and the ‘real-life Popeye’

   1. MFMonty Franklin33:34

      Have you seen that bloke that eats the, just the raw-

   2. JRJoe Rogan33:37

      No. That's a gimmick, that guy.

   3. MFMonty Franklin33:39

      It just looks ridiculous.

   4. JRJoe Rogan33:40

      Let me tell you something.

   5. MFMonty Franklin33:40

      He's got a plate of hearts and he's, he's just looks w-

   6. JRJoe Rogan33:43

      He's got an ass filled with steroids is what he's got.

   7. MFMonty Franklin33:46

      (laughs) Yeah.

   8. JRJoe Rogan33:46

      That-

   9. MFMonty Franklin33:46

      He should have a big-

   10. JRJoe Rogan33:47

       That is not-

   11. MFMonty Franklin33:47

       ... plate of steroids next to it.

   12. JRJoe Rogan33:48

       That is not a natural body.

   13. MFMonty Franklin33:50

       Of course it's not. (laughs)

   14. JRJoe Rogan33:51

       That guy is shooting all kinds of shit into his system to achieve that kind of physique.

   15. MFMonty Franklin33:55

       Completely. Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan33:56

       Yeah. There's, there's this guy Derek, um, who's been on my podcast before. He's got this web, um, YouTube page. Uh, moreplatesmoredates.com-

   17. MFMonty Franklin34:03

       Oh, yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan34:03

       ... is his website. You know that guy?

   19. MFMonty Franklin34:05

       Yeah, yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan34:05

       And More Plates More Dates the, the YouTube page did a whole take down of ... Not a take down, but again, an examination of this guy's claims that he's natural and that what he's, you know, is like living off the nine pillars of health and sustainability or whatever-

   21. MFMonty Franklin34:18

       No.

   22. JRJoe Rogan34:18

       ... the fuck it is. Like, liver and testicles-

   23. MFMonty Franklin34:20

       (laughs)

   24. JRJoe Rogan34:21

       ... and drinking blood. And like, it's, it's a gimmick.

   25. MFMonty Franklin34:23

       It is.

   26. JRJoe Rogan34:24

       I mean, look, you know, I don't even know if there's a benefit in eating raw meat. It, from what I've understood talking to experts, there's actually a, a lot gained from cooking because there's more ... The protein becomes more bioavailable. Like, eating raw meat like that is, uh, you're not, you're not getting as much of the actual nutrients from it. May- maybe you're getting some additional factors from the fact that you're getting, like, a rare piece of meat with blood and stuff like that. Maybe there's other things. And maybe you're getting too much protein if you're eating a giant steak and it's cooked well, but as far as, like, bioavailability, they think that human beings cooking, um, meat is one of the things that led to our, uh, evolution, that it helped our evolution along because we had more protein access.

   27. MFMonty Franklin35:13

       Right.

   28. JRJoe Rogan35:14

       And also it kills off bad bacteria 'cause, so you could have a piece of meat, like, you know, that was like, on the outside it's kinda funky, but you cook it and you can eat it.

   29. MFMonty Franklin35:22

       Yeah, okay. I haven't eaten raw meat.

   30. JRJoe Rogan35:25

       You never have?
10. 41:12 – 50:44

    Mummified monk inside a Buddha statue and the brutal path of self-mummification

    1. JRJoe Rogan41:12

       Wow. Oh, is that Ripleys' Believe It or Not! or something hilarious? I wonder if that's a real guy in there, like a skeleton. Did you know there was a- (laughs) They found a ... There was a Buddha statue once and they found out that it was actually a mummified Buddha that they had covered with a statue. They did an X-ray on this thing- Right. ... and inside of it is, like, an actual Buddha guy, like an actual yogi who was in a lotus position, that they did the statue around him. Well, that's not that weird. Well, it's weird that they didn't know it. People had the statue, they didn't know it was a dead guy inside of it. How old was the statue? That's a good question. 'Cause if it was, you know ... I mean, there's tombs and mummies and- Yeah. ... everything all over- Look at this. ... the place. But look at the statue. I think that's unreal. That's what I want. That's crazy, right?See, like that thing, he ain't clicking that thing. (laughs) That little thing in the corner. (laughs) The- (laughs) He has to sign up to the History Channel- That guy subsribed me. (laughs) ... because he's like, "Ah, crap."

    2. NANarrator42:02

       (laughs) I can't miss any of this.

    3. JRJoe Rogan42:03

       "I'm gonna subscribe to this every time." Go ... Could you pull back up to the images again? Like, so it was a, uh, a monk, a mummified monk inside an ancient Buddha statue, which is wild, man, 'cause I don't know what the statue's made of, but it, it looks like ... Does it look like pottery? What does that look like? Medical examination- Oh. ... of a thousand-year-old Buddha statue revealed a shocking surprise hidden inside an actual person's body. So, um, Meander Medical Center in the Dutch town of Amersfoort- Oh, Amersfoort. Amserfoot. Of course. Amserfort has plenty of experience treating senior citizens, but none as old as the 1,000-year-old patient it came ... uh, blah, blah, blah, blah. Um, researchers brought a millennium-old statue of Buddha, of the Buddha, which had been on loan from the Drents Museum in the Netherlands to the state-of-the-art hospital in the hopes that the modern medical technology should s- could shed light on an ancient mystery. For hidden inside the gold-painted figure was, uh ... (clears throat) ... was a secret, the mummy of a Buddhist monk in a lotus position, shown outside of China for the first time last year. So, how do they know, though? That's what's confusing. Why would they-

    4. MFMonty Franklin43:11

       Did they open it up? Did they ruin the whole thing and open it up?

    5. JRJoe Rogan43:14

       I don't think they did, man.

    6. MFMonty Franklin43:15

       Just leave it in there.

    7. JRJoe Rogan43:16

       Oh, they sampled the material for DNA, it said. Uh, u- uh, Hugelmann slid an ancient artifact slowly into a high-tech imaging machine for a full-body CT scan and sampled bone material for DNA testing. Gastroentero- enterologist? (laughs) Say that word. Gastro-

    8. MFMonty Franklin43:35

       Gastroenterologist.

    9. JRJoe Rogan43:35

       ... enterologist. And say, say his name now. Try that.

    10. MFMonty Franklin43:39

        Uh, Ruinard Verminflattle. (laughs)

    11. JRJoe Rogan43:44

        Vermijden-

    12. MFMonty Franklin43:46

        Ver- Vermigedent.

    13. JRJoe Rogan43:47

        Vermigedent.

    14. MFMonty Franklin43:47

        Vermigedent.

    15. JRJoe Rogan43:48

        Uh, used a specialty, a specially designed endoscope to extract samples from the mummy's chest and abdominal cavities. Uh, now it's known the tests have revealed a surprise, the monk's organs had been removed and replaced with scraps of paper printed with ancient Chinese characters and other rotted material since it's not been identified. How the organs had been taken from the mummy remains a mystery. Wow.

    16. MFMonty Franklin44:10

        Ah, that's cool.

    17. JRJoe Rogan44:11

        I wonder why they knew there was something in there, though? Like, that's not normal that you threw a fucking thing-

    18. MFMonty Franklin44:16

        Yeah, you go and do a-

    19. JRJoe Rogan44:17

        ... into a CAT scan.

    20. MFMonty Franklin44:18

        ... CT scan of you.

    21. JRJoe Rogan44:20

        So, look. Scroll up there. No, y- you're right there. The body inside the statue is thought to be that of the Buddhist master, L- Liu Quan, a member of the Chinese meditation school who died around AD 1100. How did Liu Quan's body end up insi- I hope I'm saying that right. End up inside ancient Chinese statue? One possibility explored by the Drents Museum is, is the gruesome process of self-mummification, in which monks hope to transform themselves into revered living Buddhas.

    22. MFMonty Franklin44:50

        Oh.

    23. JRJoe Rogan44:51

        Whoa.

    24. MFMonty Franklin44:51

        He put himself in there.

    25. JRJoe Rogan44:52

        The practice of self-mummification amongst Buddhist monks was most common in Japan but occurred elsewhere in Asia, including China, as described in Ken Jeremiah's book, Living Buddhas. Monks interested in self-mummification spent upwards of a decade following a special diet that gradually starved their bodies and enhanced their chances of preservation. Holy shit. They eschewed any food. I never know how to say that word 'cause I only read it. How do you say that word? Eschewed?

    26. MFMonty Franklin45:22

        Eschewed.

    27. JRJoe Rogan45:22

        That's a word that I've never said.

    28. MFMonty Franklin45:24

        Eschewed.

    29. JRJoe Rogan45:24

        I'm 54. I've never said that word.

    30. MFMonty Franklin45:25

        I've never seen that word.
11. 50:44 – 57:57

    Joe’s monk friend, solitude, and why people-watching fuels comics

    1. JRJoe Rogan50:44

       Fake news, bro. But that's a, that whole Buddhist monk thing, the suffering thing, is a strange thing. I have, I had a friend who became a monk.

    2. MFMonty Franklin50:52

       Yeah?

    3. JRJoe Rogan50:52

       Yeah. He became a monk while I knew him. It was a friend of mine from TaeKwonDo. His name was Joe. And, uh, we used to train together. And he just decided at one point in time that he wanted to, uh, go to this, uh, Buddhism, this Buddhist temple, to, to learn Buddhism and to, to... He wanted to get control over his mind because he got very nervous during sparring and got very nervous, um, when he, uh, when it came time for training and, and competing. He competed a few times too. He would just like lose his shit and he was, he was like, "Maybe meditation would help me get through this." So, he started meditating and taking these, uh, like Buddhist practices and doing this time at the temple. And then, uh, switched to a strict vegetarian diet, and then completely quit doing TaeKwonDo and just became a monk. And we used to go visit him. And, uh, we used to go visit Joe the Monk.

    4. MFMonty Franklin51:52

       Where, did he live at a monastery?

    5. JRJoe Rogan51:53

       Yeah, he lived in a monastery. He swept up at a temple. It was very odd 'cause I knew him before that and, you know, he was a guy that we would train with.

    6. MFMonty Franklin52:01

       Yeah, right.

    7. JRJoe Rogan52:01

       And then over time, he became a monk. And, you know, he-

    8. MFMonty Franklin52:06

       Silent?

    9. JRJoe Rogan52:06

       No, no. He would talk and he would laugh and joke around with you and stuff. But like, he would only eat vegetables and he would, uh, he would never speak badly about anyone or anything. It was really interesting.

    10. MFMonty Franklin52:17

        Did he seem happy?

    11. JRJoe Rogan52:21

        Happy is a weird thing. Like, what does hap- Like, he didn't have a-

    12. MFMonty Franklin52:23

        Did he seem content?

    13. JRJoe Rogan52:24

        He didn't have a mate. He didn't have a wife or a boyfriend or he m- didn't... You know, he didn't have... There was no one in his life that, you know-

    14. MFMonty Franklin52:31

        Uh-huh.

    15. JRJoe Rogan52:32

        He... It seemed like it was just him and meditation and silence. And he would like, uh, he had a koan. You know, like there's a thing you're supposed to meditate on. I think that's what a koan is. And like, his was the sound of like, it was like one of those, the sound of one hand clapping thing.

    16. MFMonty Franklin52:49

        Oh yeah, right.

    17. JRJoe Rogan52:50

        I don't think that was it, but it was that kind of thing, where it's like-

    18. MFMonty Franklin52:53

        A tree falling in the woods.

    19. JRJoe Rogan52:54

        Yeah.

    20. MFMonty Franklin52:54

        Nothing's around.

    21. JRJoe Rogan52:55

        Well, it's, you're supposed to think about it, like constantly, even though it doesn't necessarily make sense. And the idea is like that through that, you somehow or another achieve enlightenment by focusing on this one thing over and over and over and over again.

    22. MFMonty Franklin53:09

        Mm-hmm.

    23. JRJoe Rogan53:09

        I mean, what, when, maybe that's like some sort of a brain hack. But I remember, I was a kid at the time when he did this. I was, uh, probably 16, something like that. I was, I was 15 when I knew him and then maybe like 16, 17 when he, when he became a monk and we would go visit him. It was very, it was very strange. We'd go to eat with him, have to eat vegetables.

    24. MFMonty Franklin53:29

        Would he come out and go into the, wherever you were? I don't know.

    25. JRJoe Rogan53:33

        Yeah, he was like... He could go places.

    26. MFMonty Franklin53:35

        To San Francisco and go and have-

    27. JRJoe Rogan53:36

        Yeah.

    28. MFMonty Franklin53:37

        ... some drinks?

    29. JRJoe Rogan53:37

        This was in Boston.

    30. MFMonty Franklin53:38

        (laughs)
12. 57:57 – 1:08:22

    Batman, Hollywood normalcy, and what standup shows get wrong onscreen

    1. JRJoe Rogan57:57

       Uh, I was, uh, hanging out with, uh, Robert Pattinson a couple of days ago, and we were-

    2. MFMonty Franklin58:01

       Oh, shit.

    3. JRJoe Rogan58:01

       ... having the same conversation. Yeah. I was hanging out with Batman.

    4. MFMonty Franklin58:04

       Was he a legend?

    5. JRJoe Rogan58:04

       Name drop. He's a great guy. Really nice guy.

    6. MFMonty Franklin58:06

       I-

    7. JRJoe Rogan58:07

       Really enjoyed his company.

    8. MFMonty Franklin58:08

       I met him once actually. I forgot.

    9. JRJoe Rogan58:09

       Yeah.

    10. MFMonty Franklin58:09

        I worked on the, um, Harry Potter film. I was living in England.

    11. JRJoe Rogan58:12

        Oh.

    12. MFMonty Franklin58:13

        And I was working for the company that built all the sets. This was when I was young. And, uh, he was young too on the, on the film. And he was nervous, and I was standing there making sure the sets didn't fall down, and they were filming. And he stood right next to me, and he went, "Hello, how are you?" Like that.

    13. JRJoe Rogan58:27

        (laughs)

    14. MFMonty Franklin58:27

        And I'm like, "Hey, how are ya?" And then, uh, Daniel Radcliffe came up actually. The three of us were like having a chat. (laughs)

    15. JRJoe Rogan58:33

        Nice.

    16. MFMonty Franklin58:33

        It was fun.

    17. JRJoe Rogan58:34

        It's fun when you meet someone that's that famous and a movie star and they're just a fucking dude, just a normal guy. He's a normal guy. Like he's, he's genuine. Like I had a long conversation with him. We got drunk, you know. We had-

    18. MFMonty Franklin58:46

        Oh, yeah?

    19. JRJoe Rogan58:46

        We had a good time. Yeah. We hung out for hours. He's fucking super normal. But-

    20. MFMonty Franklin58:50

        Have you seen the movie of Batman?

    21. JRJoe Rogan58:52

        I have not. I heard it's awesome.

    22. MFMonty Franklin58:53

        Unbelievable.

    23. JRJoe Rogan58:54

        Really?

    24. MFMonty Franklin58:54

        Oh my God. Ev- everything about it, I loved it. Maybe it was 'cause I hadn't been to the movies in two years, and I just went, "I'm at the movies."

    25. JRJoe Rogan59:01

        (laughs)

    26. MFMonty Franklin59:02

        But, um, I was ... I c- I couldn't stop thinking about it. They used this soundtrack. I don't wanna give away too much, but, uh, I, I think I can say this without ruining it for you. So the director, I watched a thing on it, he was writing the script and, uh, listening to a lot of Nirvana at the time.

    27. JRJoe Rogan59:16

        Oh.

    28. MFMonty Franklin59:16

        And he thought, "Oh, that's interesting. Bruce Wayne/Batman is kinda like Kurt Cobain 'cause he's massively famous, but he doesn't really wanna be, and he wants to be this other, other person, and he's battling with two sides of himself, Kurt Cobain was."

    29. JRJoe Rogan59:30

        Hmm.

    30. MFMonty Franklin59:30

        And so is Batman and Bruce Wayne. And so he brought that into the movie. They use, um, they use the, the Nirvana song, uh, that I've completely forgotten right now. But, um, they did it so well and brought that into the character of Batman. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say that Robert Pattinson is the best Batman.

Episode duration: 3:27:26