Joe Rogan Experience #1803 - Greg Fitzsimmons

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   (drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast,…

   1. NANarrator0:00

      (drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

   2. The Joe Rogan Experience.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music) And we're rolling, Gregory.

   4. NANarrator0:16

      Rolling, rolling, rolling.

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:18

      We were just talking about how they kicked Mike ... uh, Jamie was telling us how they kicked Michael Jordan off a course because he was wearing cargo shorts while he was playing golf.

   6. NANarrator0:26

      Yeah. Silly rules. And I mean ...

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:29

      That's crazy. That you-

   8. NANarrator0:31

      It... yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:31

      Wouldn't you be happy Michael Jordan's on your fucking golf course?

   10. NANarrator0:34

       I mean, I don't know if he's not paying extra to be there, you know, or bringing-

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:37

       It doesn't matter. It's Michael Jordan.

   12. NANarrator0:38

       More people show up, but ... Tennis states-

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:40

       For sure people will show up if they find out he's there.

   14. GFGreg Fitzsimmons0:43

       Yeah.

   15. NANarrator0:43

       We don't want him to, I mean. That's like, you don't want him to come ruin it.

   16. JRJoe Rogan0:46

       I, I don't mean that. I mean like more people will go to that course.

   17. NANarrator0:49

       Oh. Eh, maybe.

   18. JRJoe Rogan0:50

       Like, people will f- be excited.

   19. GFGreg Fitzsimmons0:53

       Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan0:54

       The greatest basketball player of all time plays golf on your golf course.

   21. NANarrator0:57

       Oh, yeah, yeah, for sure, if it was b- his ... if he was gonna be a regular. That would suck.

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:00

       Was he just dropping in?

   23. NANarrator1:02

       I think it was one of those kind of places, you know. He was probably playing with somebody at a really prestigious course, and they're like, "Get outta here." (laughs)

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:08

       Yeah.

   25. NANarrator1:08

       He's like, "Why?" If you got cargo shorts on.

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:11

       So you ... You were telling me the rules.

   27. GFGreg Fitzsimmons1:13

       You gotta, you gotta, uh ... You can't wear short- ... The good course is you can't wear shorts.

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:16

       Ever. 110 degrees outside. Pants.

   29. GFGreg Fitzsimmons1:19

       And the caddies, the, the poor caddies are out there s- slugging these, you know, two ... I used to caddy growing up. That was my first job as a caddy, and I weighed like maybe 100 pounds, and they would send me out there with these ... Remember Rodney Dangerfield's baggy caddy shirt?

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:34

       Yes. (laughs)
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   There's a lot of…

   1. GFGreg Fitzsimmons15:00

      Did I fuck them up? And sometimes you gotta give yourself a break and go, "You know what? It's mostly nature."

   2. JRJoe Rogan15:06

      There's a lot of nature in there.

   3. GFGreg Fitzsimmons15:07

      Yeah.

   4. JRJoe Rogan15:07

      You could definitely fuck a kid up. But it's interesting when they find twins that were separated at birth and adopted by different parents, and then they bring them together and they like the same music.

   5. GFGreg Fitzsimmons15:16

      Yeah.

   6. JRJoe Rogan15:16

      They wear the same clothes.

   7. GFGreg Fitzsimmons15:17

      Play the same sports.

   8. JRJoe Rogan15:19

      W- yeah, it's nuts.

   9. GFGreg Fitzsimmons15:20

      Yeah.

   10. JRJoe Rogan15:20

       It's weird.

   11. GFGreg Fitzsimmons15:21

       I know. I know. I just read about these twins that they found that were like that, and like, yeah, it was exactly that. They both had like music scholarships for the same fucking instrument to colleges.

   12. JRJoe Rogan15:31

       So strange.

   13. GFGreg Fitzsimmons15:31

       Yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan15:32

       So strange. Like, what, what are we? Like, what kind of combination of genes and epigenetics and, you know, natural environments? And like, what are we? We're, we're such a, a strange animal that we, we come out... But I guess that's not... That's kind of the case with dogs too.

   15. GFGreg Fitzsimmons15:48

       Mm.

   16. JRJoe Rogan15:49

       If you've had puppies, like different puppies, like for whatever reason, they just come out of the box like that. They're just different.

   17. GFGreg Fitzsimmons15:55

       Yeah, we had these two puppies that were siblings that we adopted together, and th- they were rescues. And one of them is the fucking nicest dog in the world, and the other one we had to, we had to send back because we had kids and it was biting fucking everybody.

   18. JRJoe Rogan16:08

       Really?

   19. GFGreg Fitzsimmons16:09

       Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan16:09

       How old was it?

   21. GFGreg Fitzsimmons16:11

       They were maybe a year.

   22. JRJoe Rogan16:14

       And it was biting people?

   23. GFGreg Fitzsimmons16:15

       Yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan16:16

       Like, angrily?

   25. GFGreg Fitzsimmons16:17

       Yeah, and it was a Lhasa Apso, like a, just a cute-

   26. JRJoe Rogan16:19

       Ooh.

   27. GFGreg Fitzsimmons16:19

       ... little dog.

   28. JRJoe Rogan16:20

       How weird.

   29. GFGreg Fitzsimmons16:20

       But, but they got a temp... Some of them have tempers.

   30. JRJoe Rogan16:23

       (sighs) Yeah.
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   Might as well. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan30:00

      a Christian until he was dying, like on his deathbed. And he was like, "Eh, I'll try it."

   2. GFGreg Fitzsimmons30:06

      Might as well.

   3. JRJoe Rogan30:06

      Yeah, you never know.

   4. GFGreg Fitzsimmons30:07

      What have you got to lose?

   5. JRJoe Rogan30:07

      Hedge your bets. (laughs)

   6. GFGreg Fitzsimmons30:10

      (laughs)

   7. JRJoe Rogan30:10

      I'm in the middle of, uh, reading, uh, Meditations. Well, I'm listening to the audiobook of Meditations by Marcus Aurelius.

   8. GFGreg Fitzsimmons30:15

      Oh, right, yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan30:16

      Fascinating.

   10. GFGreg Fitzsimmons30:17

       Yeah, yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan30:17

       Fascinating that a man who lived almost 2,000 years ago was so in tuned with all of the basic aspects of being a person, all the pitfalls, of ego, and of courage, and of, you know, seeking knowledge, and of balance, the balance of life. He was aware of all this stuff-

   12. GFGreg Fitzsimmons30:40

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan30:40

       ... almost 2,000 years ago.

   14. GFGreg Fitzsimmons30:41

       Right.

   15. JRJoe Rogan30:42

       It's really crazy.

   16. GFGreg Fitzsimmons30:43

       It is, and like, a lot of it, he, he ... there's been a renaissance of, uh, uh, of ... He- he's come back, i- 'cause a lot of it is like, um, like-... I, I go to therapy and the thing I do is cognitive behavioral therapy, which is basically looking at your thoughts and realizing that your thoughts are not your reality, and that traces back to him.

   17. JRJoe Rogan31:02

       Mm. Yes, yes. Yeah, he, he said that one of the, the great quotes, and I, I put it up on my Instagram, he said that the, "Your happiness is directly connected to the quality of your thinking."

   18. GFGreg Fitzsimmons31:15

       Right.

   19. JRJoe Rogan31:15

       Which is fascinating.

   20. GFGreg Fitzsimmons31:17

       Right. And, and it, and it's the ch- to challenge, I mean, it's the, the whole idea of challenging-

   21. JRJoe Rogan31:23

       Mm-hmm.

   22. GFGreg Fitzsimmons31:23

       ... was, you know, pretty monumental back then.

   23. JRJoe Rogan31:26

       Yes.

   24. GFGreg Fitzsimmons31:26

       You know, people didn't challenge.

   25. JRJoe Rogan31:27

       Right. I wonder what they did and didn't do. You know? It's a, a, we have this interpretation of what they did and didn't do based on literature, and also the amount of literature that we have, relatively speaking, compared to what we have, you know, about today. Like, we have versions of life today by people that we don't agree with. We would read these versions of life today and we'd go, "Well, this is not accurate."

   26. GFGreg Fitzsimmons31:47

       Mm-hmm.

   27. JRJoe Rogan31:48

       But if someone finds these versions of what life is today 1,000, 2,000 years from now, they're gonna read it and they're gonna go, "Oh, this is how people felt."

   28. GFGreg Fitzsimmons31:56

       Right.

   29. JRJoe Rogan31:56

       "This is, this is, uh, their, their, their perceptions of things."

   30. GFGreg Fitzsimmons32:00

       Right.
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   Yeah. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan45:00

      really want it and find a way to fucking network their way and do the politics thing and get through, the real fucking sociopaths, that get through to the golden handle-

   2. GFGreg Fitzsimmons45:11

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan45:12

      ... of the, of the "I made it" door-

   4. GFGreg Fitzsimmons45:13

      Right.

   5. JRJoe Rogan45:14

      ... and turn that knob, that is the worst environment for them. You're going into a place where you get chosen or not chosen, and most of the time you don't get chosen, so you go in to audition. So basically, they're deciding whether they like you in real time.

   6. GFGreg Fitzsimmons45:29

      Mm-hmm.

   7. JRJoe Rogan45:30

      And you walk in there and you hope they like you, and most of the time they don't. So every time you get rejected you just get shot down further and further and further, and then you see people who do make it and you get more and more resentment.

   8. GFGreg Fitzsimmons45:41

      Mm-hmm.

   9. JRJoe Rogan45:42

      And then some fat fuck like Harvey Weinstein comes along and offers you, "Listen, I can guarantee you-"

   10. GFGreg Fitzsimmons45:48

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan45:48

       "... an Academy Award."

   12. GFGreg Fitzsimmons45:49

       Right.

   13. JRJoe Rogan45:49

       "You just gotta guarantee I nut in your mouth." Irish film star Maureen O'Hara today charged Hollywood producers and directors with calling her a cold potato without sex appeal because she refuses to let them make love to her, says the Mirror New York correspondent. "I'm so upset with it that I am ready to quit Hollywood," Maureen says. "It's got so bad I hate to come to work in the mornings. I'm a helpless victim of a Hollywood whispering campaign. Because I don't let the producer and director kiss me every morning or let them paw me, they have spread word around town that I am not a woman, that I am a cold piece of marble statuary. I guess Hollywood won't consider me as anything except a cold hunk of marble until I divorce my husband, give my baby away, and get my name and photograph in all the newspapers. If that's Hollywood's idea of being a woman, I'm ready to quit now."

   14. GFGreg Fitzsimmons46:43

       Mm.

   15. JRJoe Rogan46:43

       And this is from what year?

   16. NANarrator46:45

       1945.

   17. JRJoe Rogan46:46

       1945. Wow. That's wild.

   18. GFGreg Fitzsimmons46:49

       She was in that, that movie she did with John Wayne, the whole, the whole plot line was that she was a, uh, they were engaged and she was being difficult, and the big payoff at the end of the movie is John Wayne fucking hits her and drags her through the fields, knocking her down, and it's like this feelgood ending that's kind of a comedy.

   19. JRJoe Rogan47:08

       (exhales)

   20. GFGreg Fitzsimmons47:09

       Yeah. (laughs) Great.

   21. JRJoe Rogan47:11

       That's again like when we were talking about the difference between 1920 and 2020, that there's liter- there's c- completely different worlds.

   22. GFGreg Fitzsimmons47:18

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan47:18

       Completely different kinds of human beings and that's represented in the art if you watch movies. I mean, just watch Steve McQueen movies from 1970s, smacks the shit out of his co-stars.

   24. GFGreg Fitzsimmons47:29

       Yeah. Right.

   25. JRJoe Rogan47:30

       I mean, they hit, everybody hit people back then.

   26. GFGreg Fitzsimmons47:32

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan47:32

       It was normal for a star of a film to hit the co-star, who was a female-

   28. GFGreg Fitzsimmons47:38

       Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan47:38

       ... in the face-

   30. GFGreg Fitzsimmons47:39

       Right.
5. 1:00:00 – 1:13:52

   Mm-hmm. …

   1. GFGreg Fitzsimmons1:00:00

      Like, people were of the same ilk back then, they were predominantly the same races and the same, like, repressive society that they were living in. And to go into an oppressive society and break down those mores in front of them in a funny way, you can't do that today the same way, because everything's already been exploited and been challenged and the lines have all been crossed.

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:00:22

      Mm-hmm.

   3. GFGreg Fitzsimmons1:00:22

      But the line was so much richer back then.

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:00:25

      Oh, yeah.

   5. GFGreg Fitzsimmons1:00:25

      And, and to go into that territory, uh, and, and fuck with it, was powerful.

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:00:31

      Did you ever see that movie Yesterday?

   7. GFGreg Fitzsimmons1:00:33

      About The Beatles?

   8. JRJoe Rogan1:00:35

      It's not really about The Beatles. It is about Beatles music, but it's about a guy who wakes up in a world where no one knows The Beatles.

   9. GFGreg Fitzsimmons1:00:41

      Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was great.

   10. JRJoe Rogan1:00:43

       Yeah.

   11. GFGreg Fitzsimmons1:00:43

       I love that.

   12. JRJoe Rogan1:00:44

       And so he sings these songs and everybody's like, "This is incredible."

   13. GFGreg Fitzsimmons1:00:47

       Yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:00:47

       Like, "What's this from?" He's like, "You never heard this song?"

   15. GFGreg Fitzsimmons1:00:50

       Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:00:50

       And then he realized nobody knows... I think he was in a car accident or something. Is that... What happened to him? I forget what happened to him. Something happened where-

   17. NANarrator1:00:58

       It was some freak bus, freak bus accident.

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:01:00

       Yeah.

   19. GFGreg Fitzsimmons1:01:00

       Mm-hmm.

   20. NANarrator1:01:01

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:01:01

       So something happened, this is the premise, and there's only a few people that have heard of The Beatles for some reason.

   22. GFGreg Fitzsimmons1:01:05

       Mm-hmm.

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:01:05

       And these people know what he's doing-

   24. GFGreg Fitzsimmons1:01:07

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:01:07

       ... and they think he's, like, paying homage to this band that doesn't exist anymore. Like, "Well, good on you for bringing The Beatles music." And he's like, "Oh, shit." You know? So a few people know, but most people think he's just a fucking genius. Imagine if you could go back to 1964 and do standup, how you would crush.

   26. GFGreg Fitzsimmons1:01:27

       Yes.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:01:29

       ... oh my God.

   28. GFGreg Fitzsimmons1:01:30

       Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:01:30

       Oh my God, how you would crush.

   30. GFGreg Fitzsimmons1:01:32

       Right.

Episode duration: 3:38:06