Joe Rogan Experience #1804 - Bill Maher

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   (drumbeats) Joe Rogan podcast,…

   1. BMBill Maher0:00

      (drumbeats) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience.

   2. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.

   3. BMBill Maher0:11

      Now it's over.

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:11

      Now you're back.

   5. BMBill Maher0:15

      Now I'm in a better place.

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:17

      So what was the decision to jump into the podcasting arena?

   7. BMBill Maher0:20

      (sighs) You know-

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:20

      Not enough podcasts in the world?

   9. BMBill Maher0:21

      ... uh, well, that was certainly one.

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:23

       (laughs)

   11. BMBill Maher0:24

       Um, it is the law. No, you know, it was a bunch of things. Uh, first of all, (clears throat) if you had said to me-

   12. JRJoe Rogan0:32

       (clears throat)

   13. BMBill Maher0:33

       ... 10... When did you start, 2009?

   14. JRJoe Rogan0:35

       Yeah.

   15. BMBill Maher0:35

       And what year, what year did you become the king of podcasting?

   16. JRJoe Rogan0:39

       Five years ago, probably.

   17. BMBill Maher0:40

       Five years ago, okay. So if you said to me 10 years ago, "Podcasting is gonna be huge, um, it's really gonna be where media moves, it's where people are g- it's gonna be bigger than radio at its height," I'd say, "Are you crazy?"

   18. JRJoe Rogan0:54

       (laughs)

   19. BMBill Maher0:55

       But, you know, partly because of you, uh, it did, and so it's sort of undeniable now. And, um, I also was out to dinner too many times with people who said, "You know, you're so interesting to talk to when it's not about politics. You know, you should do a podcast that's not about politics." And I was always saying, "Well, first of all, my network would never let me do that, they own my ass, they pay me very well for exclusivity." But I found out that actually, you know what? I can if I ask nicely, and they were nice about it, um, and do it in a very different way, which is what we did. I could do a podcast, um, and have it not be about politics. And it's a whole new audience because there's just a lot of people who are turned off to politics and don't wanna talk about politics and don't wanna hear about it. And sometimes I'm that guy. Sometimes I don't wanna hear about it.

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:51

       Yeah.

   21. BMBill Maher1:51

       And there's too many people who are divorced from, shall we say, knowing things?

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:59

       (laughs)

   23. BMBill Maher1:59

       You know- (laughs)

   24. JRJoe Rogan2:00

       (laughs)

   25. BMBill Maher2:00

       ... I had this-

   26. JRJoe Rogan2:01

       That's a great way to put it.

   27. BMBill Maher2:02

       (laughs)

   28. JRJoe Rogan2:02

       Divorced from knowing things is a great way to put it.

   29. BMBill Maher2:05

       I, I mean, they're still... They're not... I'm not saying they're dumb, not at all.

   30. JRJoe Rogan2:08

       Right.
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   It's bonkers. …

   1. BMBill Maher15:00

      when I started-

   2. JRJoe Rogan15:01

      It's bonkers.

   3. BMBill Maher15:01

      ... when you couldn't be political. And now you couldn't survive, apparently, in late night television unless you are political, unless the audience knows exactly that you're a- ... I would put Saturday Night Live in this, too. It's, uh, I think Elon Musk, uh, took them to task. He said, "It doesn't seem like a show that's about comedy anymore so much as it, uh, it is about declaring some woke doctrine."

   4. JRJoe Rogan15:27

      Yeah.

   5. BMBill Maher15:27

      Um, and, you know, having people, the people who go to those shows and, uh, are in the, I guess, where they film them and stuff, uh, I... My audience was, was too doctrinated for a while. We, we have a much better audience now because we kinda got rid of the groaners, the people for whom I was always too politically incorrect. And I was like, "I've been doing this forever." The names of the shows, Politically Incorrect, Real Time, and you still come to this show and groan when I say something too real? What fucking show did you think you were coming to? 'Cause they do film The Price is Right in the same studio.

   6. JRJoe Rogan16:04

      (laughs)

   7. BMBill Maher16:04

      (laughs)

   8. JRJoe Rogan16:04

      Do you think that the way it's going right now with late night television where you, you... everyone has to be political, is that what the audience wants, or is that what the executives in the studio wants? Are they... like, who is... are they one step behind? Like, what, where, where is the, the mandate coming from? Is it the person who's the host who says, "You know what I know works in this town if I wanna keep working? I have to be, like, outwardly-

   9. BMBill Maher16:29

      Well-

   10. JRJoe Rogan16:29

       ... left-leaning, progressive, political."

   11. BMBill Maher16:31

       Look, it's... I think it's coming from both because corporations in America now, um, are, you know-

   12. JRJoe Rogan16:37

       They're leaning in.

   13. BMBill Maher16:38

       Are what?

   14. JRJoe Rogan16:38

       They're leaning into woke.

   15. BMBill Maher16:39

       (laughs)

   16. JRJoe Rogan16:40

       Hardcore.

   17. BMBill Maher16:41

       They're, they're, they're petrified-

   18. JRJoe Rogan16:43

       Yeah.

   19. BMBill Maher16:43

       ... of some kind of backlash. I mean, you see with, with Disney now. I mean, Disney, one of the most gay-friendly companies that we've had in a very long time, um, g- as they should be. All companies should be gay friendly. But Disney sorta... They had gay days-

   20. JRJoe Rogan17:00

       Yeah.

   21. BMBill Maher17:00

       ... at Disney... What is it? World? Land? I don't know. I'm not a Disney... you know?

   22. JRJoe Rogan17:04

       I think it was the LA one, right?

   23. BMBill Maher17:05

       You'll never find me in a-

   24. JRJoe Rogan17:06

       I think it's Land.

   25. BMBill Maher17:07

       Disneyland is the original. That's right.

   26. JRJoe Rogan17:09

       That's LA.

   27. BMBill Maher17:09

       Disney World is in Florida.

   28. JRJoe Rogan17:11

       Right.

   29. BMBill Maher17:11

       You'll never find me sitting in a teacup, Joe, okay? So... (laughs)

   30. JRJoe Rogan17:14

       (laughs) Who, who, I love teacups. (laughs)
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   Well- …

   1. JRJoe Rogan30:00

   2. BMBill Maher30:00

      Well-

   3. JRJoe Rogan30:01

      Whenever someone has a dumb belief, like they have some str- a belief that is like, "Wait, hold on." Do you believe in ghosts? (laughs)

   4. BMBill Maher30:08

      You know what? I'm the most rational guy I know, but I might.

   5. JRJoe Rogan30:11

      I might believe in ghosts.

   6. BMBill Maher30:12

      You know why?

   7. JRJoe Rogan30:13

      I might too.

   8. BMBill Maher30:13

      Because there's too many highly intelligent people who I know...... who I grilled when they told me they had some sort of experience. Like, they're not drunk, they're not religious people.

   9. JRJoe Rogan30:25

      Right.

   10. BMBill Maher30:26

       You know, I- I- I grilled them. "You sure you..." I was not drink- "You sure you weren't sleeping? This was not a dr-" They... Too many people-

   11. JRJoe Rogan30:34

       Yeah.

   12. BMBill Maher30:34

       ... have some sort of experience, I don't know what it is, and I don't give a fuck, because I'm never gonna know and they're not bothering me, (laughs) the ghosts, apparently. (laughs)

   13. JRJoe Rogan30:43

       I think I know what it is.

   14. BMBill Maher30:44

       What is it?

   15. JRJoe Rogan30:45

       I- i- it's one of two things. Uh, one, it, it is, uh, like one of those things in the dark that you think you see, and so, well, there's like a pattern in our head for looking for things in the dark.

   16. BMBill Maher30:57

       Maybe, yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan30:58

       People always look. And I think you can hallucinate. 'Cause I know people that have hallucinated when they got scared, when they got scared. Like, my wife was telling me a story about her dad scaring her when she was little and she, he would just, you know, snuck up on her, played a trick, and she literally saw a monster. Like, that's how she saw. She saw it like a monster, and then it took her, like, a second to realize it was just her dad.

   18. BMBill Maher31:16

       Right. (laughs)

   19. JRJoe Rogan31:16

       Like, people f- see things.

   20. BMBill Maher31:18

       Right.

   21. JRJoe Rogan31:18

       They just see.

   22. BMBill Maher31:19

       Yes.

   23. JRJoe Rogan31:19

       That, that's part of the problem. And then the other thing is people's brains produce psychedelic, psychedelic chemicals, and you don't know why, right? People's brains produce dimethyltryptamine. They produce, uh, all co- all sorts of weird neurotransmitters and, and they... I got ... I have to think that they go in and out in, like, just like your testosterone does, just like your adrenaline does.

   24. BMBill Maher31:39

       Right.

   25. JRJoe Rogan31:40

       There's probably waves of them.

   26. BMBill Maher31:41

       Right.

   27. JRJoe Rogan31:41

       And I think if a lot goes through, which your b- this is not, like, fiction.

   28. BMBill Maher31:45

       Right. Of course.

   29. JRJoe Rogan31:45

       Your brain makes potent psychedelics.

   30. BMBill Maher31:47

       Correct.
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   Yeah. …

   1. BMBill Maher45:00

      the Aaron Rodgers, the Kyrie Irvings, the, uh, Djokovics, because what they were saying was, "Look, I'm a finely tuned athlete with a perfect body. My body is my life. Of course I keep it in a, as good a shape as I can. Every year I play, I can make another..." What do they make, 50 million a year?

   2. JRJoe Rogan45:19

      Yeah.

   3. BMBill Maher45:19

      "Of course I wanna play as long as I can. So I'm super careful about everything I put into my body, everything."

   4. JRJoe Rogan45:28

      Yeah.

   5. BMBill Maher45:28

      You have to respect that. And people-

   6. JRJoe Rogan45:30

      Well, with Aaron Rodgers, it's even more important, because he's actually allergic to the m- one of the, one of the... What is that stuff called? Poly... gly-

   7. BMBill Maher45:38

      Yes, I know which-

   8. JRJoe Rogan45:40

      Fuck is it called? That, whatever, whatever that chemical is. He has an allergy to it. It's in shampoo, right? It's in-

   9. BMBill Maher45:44

      It's in everything.

   10. JRJoe Rogan45:45

       Well, he, that, he has an allergy to that stuff.

   11. BMBill Maher45:46

       Now, do we know for sure it's in the vaccine?

   12. JRJoe Rogan45:49

       According to Aaron. He said it's not in the Johnson & Johnson, but it is in the other one.

   13. BMBill Maher45:53

       Yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan45:53

       I think that's correct.

   15. BMBill Maher45:54

       I mean, let's see again.

   16. JRJoe Rogan45:55

       Can you Glue, Google that, see if that's correct?

   17. BMBill Maher45:57

       There's, there's... And I don't even know if I trust Google. That's the problem these days.

   18. JRJoe Rogan46:02

       Fuck.

   19. BMBill Maher46:02

       It's like whatever I learn, I'm like-

   20. JRJoe Rogan46:04

       Yeah.

   21. BMBill Maher46:04

       ... "Okay."

   22. JRJoe Rogan46:05

       Right.

   23. BMBill Maher46:05

       But I don't trust anyone completely. I almost always feel like I'm getting somebody's narrative.

   24. JRJoe Rogan46:12

       Yes.

   25. BMBill Maher46:12

       I'm not getting a truth, I'm getting a narrative or something that feeds your narrative, and I just wanna know.

   26. JRJoe Rogan46:18

       Yeah.

   27. BMBill Maher46:19

       Just tell me. Even if you tell me that, um-

   28. JRJoe Rogan46:23

       Okay, Rodgers says he's eng- he's allergic to an ingredient used in the two mRNA vaccines of Pfizer and Moderna, and steered away from Johnson & Johnson vaccine after reports of adverse reactions. Um, what, uh, he did not disclose what ingredients. Oh, well, I think he told me. Polyethylene glycol.

   29. BMBill Maher46:41

       Yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan46:42

       Yeah.
5. 1:00:00 – 1:15:00

   If it didn't affect…

   1. BMBill Maher1:00:00

      It, it's, it's... I find that bizarre. And of course it just gives a message to America, oh, this is normal, this is okay, this is, this is fine, this is just another way to be. And, and I, I certainly haven't heard anything about it from the government that it's unhealthy 'cause they would never say that because-

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:00:18

      If it didn't affect your health that would be one thing. If it was just that you look-

   3. BMBill Maher1:00:22

      Of course. That's what I'm-

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:00:22

      ... sloppy.

   5. BMBill Maher1:00:23

      Right. That's what I was saying.

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:00:24

      Yeah.

   7. BMBill Maher1:00:24

      You-

   8. JRJoe Rogan1:00:24

      If you just got really big and really heavy-

   9. BMBill Maher1:00:26

      You know-

   10. JRJoe Rogan1:00:27

       ... and that's... It's just the way you look-

   11. BMBill Maher1:00:28

       Yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan1:00:28

       ... then you're right.

   13. BMBill Maher1:00:30

       Right.

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:00:30

       Then you're right.

   15. BMBill Maher1:00:30

       It's just, that's a look. Anybody-

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:00:32

       That's... Yeah.

   17. BMBill Maher1:00:32

       There's lots of looks I don't like.

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:00:34

       Exactly.

   19. BMBill Maher1:00:34

       And that could just be another one.

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:00:36

       That's fine.

   21. BMBill Maher1:00:36

       And some people would like it and some... But it's not-

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:00:38

       If that was the case, that would be amazing.

   23. BMBill Maher1:00:39

       But that's not the case.

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:00:40

       Not the case at all.

   25. BMBill Maher1:00:41

       The case is that... And the truth is if the country wasn't, uh, so-... uh, unhealthy to begin with, the virus would not have been so catastrophic.

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:00:52

       Right.

   27. BMBill Maher1:00:52

       And it wouldn't have cost us $6 trillion. I mean, it would've cost us something, but, I mean, there's a direct link to how unhealthy people were to begin with-

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:01:02

       Right.

   29. BMBill Maher1:01:02

       ... and to how much it cost us. And literally, I think this is an issue that could bankrupt the country. I mean, we were talking about healthcare before COVID as the number one thing that had to be fixed somehow e- economically because it had become, like, an unsustainable percentage of the economy was going toward healthcare. I mean, this is why they did Obamacare.

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:01:25

       Yeah.
6. 1:15:00 – 1:15:06

   Yeah. Bears. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:15:00

   2. BMBill Maher1:15:00

      Yeah. Bears.

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:15:01

      You've been... You've seen a moose in real life?

   4. BMBill Maher1:15:03

      Uh, yeah, I, I saw it walking down the street.

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:15:05

      It's fucking crazy-

   6. BMBill Maher1:15:06

      (laughs)

Episode duration: 2:23:40