Joe Rogan Experience #1805 - Mike Tyson

1. 0:00 – 1:01

   DMT, ego, and the decision to fight again

   1. NANarrator0:00

      (drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience.

   2. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (rock music) Time rolls, Mike Tyson. Time doesn't give a fuck about any of us.

   3. MTMike Tyson0:15

      No.

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:16

      It just keeps going.

   5. MTMike Tyson0:17

      No, no. Don't wait for nobody.

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:20

      What was it like fighting again after all those years?

   7. MTMike Tyson0:26

      Hey, listen, I did this toad, this M- DMT stuff.

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:31

      Right.

   9. MTMike Tyson0:31

      And I just, I lost that weight and I said, "I don't know what happened." I just don't know what happened. I just said, "I'm gonna do this."

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:37

       Well, it's funny because you talked to me on the podcast before, the first time you came on and you said, "I can't even work out."

   11. MTMike Tyson0:44

       Yes. Yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan0:44

       "'Cause if I work out, my ego will get excited."

   13. MTMike Tyson0:47

       But I did this toad and this toad, I said, "You gotta do it." It said, "You have to do it."

   14. JRJoe Rogan0:52

       The toad told you?

   15. MTMike Tyson0:53

       Yeah. Yeah, you have to do it.

   16. JRJoe Rogan0:53

       The DMT told you it's time to fight?

   17. MTMike Tyson0:55

       Yeah. You have to do it.

   18. JRJoe Rogan0:56

       Wow.

   19. MTMike Tyson0:56

       I lost the weight.

   20. JRJoe Rogan0:57

       Mm-hmm.

2. 1:01 – 1:46

   From Bob Sapp to Roy Jones: how the comeback matchups evolved

   1. MTMike Tyson1:01

      And it started off with me at first fighting Bob Sapp at first.

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:05

      That's right, the K-1 event.

   3. MTMike Tyson1:07

      (laughs)

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:07

      I was there for that. I was there live.

   5. MTMike Tyson1:08

      No, but man, I was gonna fight.

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:09

      Yeah.

   7. MTMike Tyson1:10

      That was gonna be the first fight, yeah.

   8. JRJoe Rogan1:10

      When you- when you got in the cr- in the ring with him, you said, "Martha, it's Queensberry rules."

   9. MTMike Tyson1:13

      No. Yeah, but listen, the fight- the fight I fought with Roy Jones was supposed to be with Bob Sapp.

   10. JRJoe Rogan1:18

       Oh, really? Oh, no kidding.

   11. MTMike Tyson1:22

       Hell yeah. I wouldn't have to chase this guy all around. (breathes deeply) So the next thing you know, got in- (clears throat) Roy Jones got involved and other fighters, Holyfield got involved and they, and then it turned into a- a fiasco. And then the young guy, (clears throat) Jake Paul.

   12. JRJoe Rogan1:40

       Yeah.

   13. MTMike Tyson1:41

       It was Jake Paul, he got involved then. And that's how he, that's how the birth of Jake Paul became. (coughs)

3. 1:46 – 3:31

   Not taking yourself too seriously: ego, reputation, and public perception

   1. JRJoe Rogan1:46

      When you get challenged by someone who's a- a guy like a Jake Paul, does that piss you off?

   2. MTMike Tyson1:52

      Not at all.

   3. JRJoe Rogan1:53

      Is there part- part of it that's just like...

   4. MTMike Tyson1:55

      My, um... No, it doesn't.

   5. JRJoe Rogan1:57

      No?

   6. MTMike Tyson1:57

      I don't think it... I think it's awesome. (laughs)

   7. JRJoe Rogan2:00

      You think it's awesome?

   8. MTMike Tyson2:01

      (laughs) Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan2:01

      (laughs)

   10. MTMike Tyson2:01

       I think it's awesome. Cool.

   11. JRJoe Rogan2:03

       You think it's cool? That's awesome. That's awesome that you- you handle it that way. Because like, in a way, I mean, it's- it's kind of insulting. It's brave, it's bold of him, but it's also, it's like, Jesus Christ, there's levels to this world.

   12. MTMike Tyson2:20

       Let me- let me... You know what I found out? Um, this gent- gentleman, um, he was- he was a mayor in this town in the Midwest, right? And I talked to him before and he was one of those stern guys, he always got the bills paid, always got your lights on, always got everything right and perfect, but he didn't have a good personality. And he almost lost to a guy that didn't do anything, he didn't make... He- he'd be sh- he shit on people's tags, he messed there, but he hung out with the people, he- he smoked cigarettes with them, he drank with them.

   13. JRJoe Rogan2:45

       Wow.

   14. MTMike Tyson2:45

       He ate with them, he'd go on and hang on their porch with them.

   15. JRJoe Rogan2:49

       Yeah.

   16. MTMike Tyson2:49

       And that's when you learn you can't take yourself too serious.

   17. JRJoe Rogan2:53

       Right.

   18. MTMike Tyson2:53

       Or, I mean, the world will turn on you if you take yourself too serious. Who the hell am I to take myself too serious? Made all this money, got this reputation, and now I'm looking at people scr- scr- scr- screw-facing them down.

   19. JRJoe Rogan3:04

       Right.

   20. MTMike Tyson3:04

       I have a great life. How am I gonna be mad at somebody? Really, when you think about it. When my ego's not involved, how can I really be mad at somebody?

   21. JRJoe Rogan3:11

       That's beautiful.

   22. MTMike Tyson3:11

       (laughs)

   23. JRJoe Rogan3:12

       That's a beautiful attitude, and you're so right, because there's so many people that are so concentrating on... They're concentrating so much on succeeding and doing great things-

   24. MTMike Tyson3:20

       That was me. I just wanted to win so bad.

   25. JRJoe Rogan3:22

       Yeah.

   26. MTMike Tyson3:22

       I- I wanted to be somebody so bad, it wasn't even funny.

   27. JRJoe Rogan3:26

       Yeah, and you forget what life is about. Life is about... Thank you. Life is enjoying moments.

4. 3:31 – 5:34

   Balance, legacy, and the self-control problem for fighters

   1. MTMike Tyson3:31

      Life is a balance in life. Your legacy is not what you accomplish, it's what your children say about you at the end of the day. They know who you are, they know what you're hiding that you don't want no one else to see.

   2. JRJoe Rogan3:43

      I'm sure you are a fan of Miyamoto Musashi.

   3. MTMike Tyson3:46

      (sighs)

   4. JRJoe Rogan3:46

      I'm sure.

   5. MTMike Tyson3:47

      Tell me about the Japanese warrior?

   6. JRJoe Rogan3:48

      Yeah, Book of Five Rings.

   7. MTMike Tyson3:49

      Yes.

   8. JRJoe Rogan3:50

      He was all about balance.

   9. MTMike Tyson3:51

      Yes.

   10. JRJoe Rogan3:51

       That was his whole thing is like an o- of- a samurai has to be an artist. You have to be able to do calligraphy, you have to be able to paint, you have to be able to write poetry.

   11. MTMike Tyson3:59

       Write, yes.

   12. JRJoe Rogan4:00

       He felt like if you had any imbalance, like if you were like too aggressive or too peaceful, like any imbalance was dangerous. He's like, you had to be like perfectly centered. So you had to be a person who understood all things.

   13. MTMike Tyson4:13

       Yes, true, too.

   14. JRJoe Rogan4:14

       You had to do artwork, everything.

   15. MTMike Tyson4:14

       That's true, but, um, everybody can't, um, express themselves being centered.

   16. JRJoe Rogan4:20

       Yeah.

   17. MTMike Tyson4:20

       Some people have to be totally insane to express themself.

   18. JRJoe Rogan4:23

       Mm-hmm.

   19. MTMike Tyson4:23

       Or totally introverted to express themselves and I don't know why it's like that.

   20. JRJoe Rogan4:27

       I think he's talking about it from a point of fighting with swords.

   21. MTMike Tyson4:30

       Oh, oh, uh, uh, self-control.

   22. JRJoe Rogan4:32

       Yeah. I think-

   23. MTMike Tyson4:33

       Most fighters that... The- our main problem is self-control. That's our main-

   24. JRJoe Rogan4:37

       For sure.

   25. MTMike Tyson4:37

       ... being ourselves, yes.

   26. JRJoe Rogan4:38

       Yeah, and it gets worse as you get more successful-

   27. MTMike Tyson4:41

       Exactly.

   28. JRJoe Rogan4:41

       ... and more destructive and more, you know, conqueror. You're the fucking guy in Sports Illustrated, you're the fucking man. I mean, it's just, when you're a- a guy who's in a position like you were in when you were 20 years old, like I've had this conversation with many people, I'm like, "Do you understand the kind of self-control it would take to be the baddest man on the planet and you're only 20?"

   29. MTMike Tyson5:02

       Yeah, it takes a lot of self-control.

   30. JRJoe Rogan5:03

       (laughs) Which is crazy.
5. 5:34 – 9:28

   Obsessive perfection and the “out-of-season” violence mindset

   1. JRJoe Rogan5:34

      Do you think that that's what it takes to make someone who is as good as you, as young as you, you have to be completely obsessed?

   2. MTMike Tyson5:42

      Me-

   3. JRJoe Rogan5:43

      Yeah.

   4. MTMike Tyson5:43

      Mike Tyson-

   5. JRJoe Rogan5:43

      Yeah.

   6. MTMike Tyson5:43

      ... I'm an obsessed mentality type of person.

   7. JRJoe Rogan5:46

      And at that point in time, I mean-

   8. MTMike Tyson5:48

      Oh...

   9. JRJoe Rogan5:48

      That, I mean, uh, to achieve what you achieved so quickly too, you know, like you met Cus when you were like, what, 13?

   10. MTMike Tyson5:54

       12.

   11. JRJoe Rogan5:54

       12. So from 12 to 20, I mean, that's wild. That's a wild ride.

   12. MTMike Tyson5:58

       Well, 12 to 19, he died when I was 19, but the fact is, um, that I c- I, um, I put so much of myself into battling my emotions and everything-That was magnificent, that was great, but then when I came to life, it was disastrous.

   13. JRJoe Rogan6:14

       Right.

   14. MTMike Tyson6:15

       Imagine being, imagine being the guy who's just so boom, always in the person's face. "Hey, hey."

   15. JRJoe Rogan6:20

       Yeah.

   16. MTMike Tyson6:20

       "Guess what? Hey, baby, I love you. Hey, hey, what's this? Hey, hey, what's this?"

   17. JRJoe Rogan6:22

       Yeah.

   18. MTMike Tyson6:23

       And I'm just that manic type of person.

   19. JRJoe Rogan6:25

       With everything.

   20. MTMike Tyson6:26

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan6:26

       Yeah.

   22. MTMike Tyson6:28

       (coughs) I love you, but he's gonna stop that. (laughs)

   23. JRJoe Rogan6:32

       (laughs)

   24. MTMike Tyson6:32

       Hey, what'd I do? Hey, stop, stop. I promise, I'm sorry. No, no, no. I won't do it again. (laughs)

   25. JRJoe Rogan6:37

       (laughs) Oh, man.

   26. MTMike Tyson6:39

       Oh, God.

   27. JRJoe Rogan6:39

       Do you know Neal Brennan?

   28. MTMike Tyson6:41

       No, tell me about him.

   29. JRJoe Rogan6:41

       Neal Brennan the comedian? Fun- very funny comedian, but he has a funny joke about football players. Football players that get in violent altercations.

   30. MTMike Tyson6:47

       Mm-hmm.
6. 9:28 – 14:16

   Why great fighters rarely become great trainers (and what Cus did differently)

   1. MTMike Tyson9:28

      Listen, um, you always benefit from fighting, because people who don't fight well teach people to fight well.

   2. JRJoe Rogan9:35

      Hmm.

   3. MTMike Tyson9:36

      That's normally how it goes. You never see a, you know, great legendary fighter being a great trainer.

   4. JRJoe Rogan9:40

      Right.

   5. MTMike Tyson9:40

      It's very, very- It's probably 1%.

   6. JRJoe Rogan9:42

      Like Emanuel Stewart is a great example, right?

   7. MTMike Tyson9:44

      Exactly.

   8. JRJoe Rogan9:44

      Emanuel Stewart is not a guy that people knew as like, a great heavyweight fighter, but my God, what a fucking trainer he was.

   9. MTMike Tyson9:51

      That's what happen when you don't fight, you teach.

   10. JRJoe Rogan9:53

       You can't... S-

   11. MTMike Tyson9:53

       In everything.

   12. JRJoe Rogan9:54

       There's some guys that are... But, like, Freddie Roach was a good fighter, and Freddie Roach is a, an amazing coach. There's exceptions, right?

   13. MTMike Tyson10:01

       They're very 1%, though.

   14. JRJoe Rogan10:03

       Right. Yeah.

   15. MTMike Tyson10:03

       The exception's so small.

   16. JRJoe Rogan10:05

       It's interesting, like, everybody has their role, right?

   17. MTMike Tyson10:08

       What do you think of, what do you think of these fighters that are guys like me? Don't you think we, we have a little bit too much self-centered to really get involved with somebody?

   18. JRJoe Rogan10:17

       Yeah. It's totally possible.

   19. MTMike Tyson10:17

       If they don't got-

   20. JRJoe Rogan10:18

       Yeah.

   21. MTMike Tyson10:18

       If they don't pick it up quickly, you know, uh, we lose that interest, 'cause they think they should be like us or-

   22. JRJoe Rogan10:22

       Mm-hmm.

   23. MTMike Tyson10:22

       ... they should be dedicated like us. They should stop fucking eating and losing weight when they don't need to lose the weight.

   24. JRJoe Rogan10:27

       Right. Right, right, right.

   25. MTMike Tyson10:28

       They do that crazy stuff.

   26. JRJoe Rogan10:29

       Yeah. Yeah, totally. I, I, I could imagine that it would be just... You wouldn't be interested. 'Cause you're still working... It's like if a great man who was a great fighter at one point in his time just stops thinking about himself.

   27. MTMike Tyson10:41

       Exactly.

   28. JRJoe Rogan10:41

       You're always working on yourself.

   29. MTMike Tyson10:42

       Constantly. Listen, um, if you know you, who you are at this stage of your life, then you're very limited.

   30. JRJoe Rogan10:49

       Right.
7. 14:16 – 17:44

   Fate, psychedelics, and death as part of the process

   1. MTMike Tyson14:16

      Um, because it's been written.

   2. JRJoe Rogan14:17

      Yeah.

   3. MTMike Tyson14:17

      And life is, everything's been written since the beginning of time, it's been written.

   4. JRJoe Rogan14:21

      Do you think that everything's been written, like, it all has a purpose to it, it's all going, moving towards a certain goal?

   5. MTMike Tyson14:26

      Absolutely, absolutely.

   6. JRJoe Rogan14:28

      Yeah?

   7. MTMike Tyson14:28

      Absolutely.

   8. JRJoe Rogan14:28

      What, do you, do you see that, like, when you get really high too?

   9. MTMike Tyson14:32

      Oh.

   10. JRJoe Rogan14:32

       Like, that's when I, when I, when I get, do mushrooms, or, um, anytime I do anything psychedelic, I have this weird thought that all of this is, like, playing out-

   11. MTMike Tyson14:42

       No, no, no, no, no, no.

   12. JRJoe Rogan14:42

       ... towards a very predetermined outcome.

   13. MTMike Tyson14:44

       All, exactly, all of this is, what we're doing now-

   14. JRJoe Rogan14:47

       Yeah.

   15. MTMike Tyson14:47

       ... me and you and everybody, is a beautiful process of dying.

   16. JRJoe Rogan14:50

       Mm-hmm.

   17. MTMike Tyson14:50

       Once you're born, the process begin.

   18. JRJoe Rogan14:53

       Yeah.

   19. MTMike Tyson14:53

       And that's what it is.

   20. JRJoe Rogan14:55

       And you're dying as the world is changing rapidly around you, as more people have access to information.

   21. MTMike Tyson15:00

       No, by you dying, by you dying, you change the world.

   22. JRJoe Rogan15:03

       That too.

   23. MTMike Tyson15:04

       Yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan15:04

       By you living, you change the world.

   25. MTMike Tyson15:05

       Exactly.

   26. JRJoe Rogan15:05

       Yeah. That's the thing. It's like every-

   27. MTMike Tyson15:08

       I think death got a bad rap. I think-

   28. JRJoe Rogan15:11

       (laughs)

   29. MTMike Tyson15:11

       No, it has a bad rap. If life's a beaut-

   30. JRJoe Rogan15:13

       That's a great quote, though.
8. 17:44 – 23:22

   Human evolution, chimeras, and animal violence: the “we’re animals” segment

   1. MTMike Tyson17:44

      Yes, maybe we'll become a different species. There's too much, um, there's just too much scientific science out there that people are dibbling and dabbling in.

   2. JRJoe Rogan17:53

      (laughs) Yeah, those fucking...

   3. MTMike Tyson17:53

      You start, all of a sudden, they start seeing these, um, animals that look deformed with human beings hands and heads and stuff.

   4. JRJoe Rogan18:00

      They've made human monkey chimeras. That means they've combined the DNA of a human-

   5. MTMike Tyson18:05

      Oh, absolutely.

   6. JRJoe Rogan18:05

      ... and a monkey. No, they, they, we're talking about-

   7. MTMike Tyson18:07

      Yeah.

   8. JRJoe Rogan18:07

      ... how they did this. I think they only did it in the embryonic, like, I don't think they actually raised one to a full-grown-

   9. MTMike Tyson18:13

      Oh, arm is like this.

   10. JRJoe Rogan18:14

       ... living animal.

   11. MTMike Tyson18:15

       Oh, and the monkey arm's like this.

   12. JRJoe Rogan18:16

       It's crazy.

   13. MTMike Tyson18:17

       It goes right here. Instead of ours going here, his muscles go right here.

   14. JRJoe Rogan18:20

       Yeah.... there, there was a, a, a video that, uh, someone sent me, um, of a monkey-

   15. MTMike Tyson18:26

       Shaved?

   16. JRJoe Rogan18:26

       ... pulling this dude's head off.

   17. MTMike Tyson18:28

       Oh, yeah. So the-

   18. JRJoe Rogan18:28

       Pulling this dude's, like, scalp-

   19. MTMike Tyson18:30

       ... face was, face was there.

   20. JRJoe Rogan18:30

       ... off his head. Just jumps on top of this dude, bites into his head and-

   21. MTMike Tyson18:34

       Oh.

   22. JRJoe Rogan18:34

       ... peels back his scalp.

   23. MTMike Tyson18:35

       Is it chimpanzee?

   24. JRJoe Rogan18:35

       No, it's a tiny little monkey.

   25. MTMike Tyson18:37

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan18:37

       That's what's crazy. Here, I'll sh- I'll sh- send it to Jamie, 'cause it's a tiny little monkey and the dude is in India, and it-

   27. NANarrator18:43

       I got it. I got it.

   28. JRJoe Rogan18:44

       You got it?

   29. NANarrator18:44

       Yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan18:44

       Okay.
9. 23:22 – 28:41

   Amazons, ancient myths, and superstition vs religion

   1. MTMike Tyson23:22

      I just think, um, at the beginning, we were a different species of people.

   2. JRJoe Rogan23:26

      Yes.

   3. MTMike Tyson23:27

      As you, as you see during, um, the periods when we s- we, we see these people that... Uh, what do you call them? The people that do all the digging?

   4. JRJoe Rogan23:34

      Oh yeah, anthropologists.

   5. MTMike Tyson23:35

      Anthropologists.

   6. JRJoe Rogan23:36

      Yeah.

   7. MTMike Tyson23:36

      And this-

   8. JRJoe Rogan23:37

      Archeologists.

   9. MTMike Tyson23:38

      Yeah, and, um, I seen them and in one particular, it was about Amazons.

   10. JRJoe Rogan23:44

       Mm.

   11. MTMike Tyson23:45

       And one picture they had this one Amazon, she must've been the queen because she was dead. She was like this and she had a man at her feet.

   12. JRJoe Rogan23:52

       Oh, shit.

   13. MTMike Tyson23:53

       In position. He was dead and she was on top of him.

   14. JRJoe Rogan23:56

       That was how she died? That's how they, they buried her?

   15. MTMike Tyson23:58

       Well, that's how they buried her, yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan23:59

       Whoa, that's heavy.

   17. MTMike Tyson23:59

       In Russia or Ukraine somewhere.

   18. JRJoe Rogan24:01

       That's heavy.

   19. MTMike Tyson24:02

       Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan24:02

       That's a lady who needs-

   21. MTMike Tyson24:03

       Whoo.

   22. JRJoe Rogan24:03

       ... a lot of attention. (laughs)

   23. MTMike Tyson24:05

       Oh, there's a bunch of them. Listen, they have statues of men fighting the Amazon. They got guys grabbing them by their hair. They got-

   24. JRJoe Rogan24:10

       Wow.

   25. MTMike Tyson24:11

       ... women fighting them back, cutting, you know, jumping on men.

   26. JRJoe Rogan24:14

       Damn.

   27. MTMike Tyson24:14

       They got statues of it. Amazons fighting.

   28. JRJoe Rogan24:19

       There's all kinds of people out there. Imagine if that's a real thing, if there's like a, it was a real tribe of super women-

   29. MTMike Tyson24:25

       You didn't believe that?

   30. JRJoe Rogan24:26

       ... fighters.
10. 28:41 – 35:11

    Ancient drugs and altered states: burning bush, Greeks, Vikings, and hashish

    1. MTMike Tyson28:41

       Y- do you ever li- look at the, the history of drugs?

    2. JRJoe Rogan28:44

       Oh, yeah.

    3. MTMike Tyson28:44

       Holy moly.

    4. JRJoe Rogan28:45

       Oh, yeah.

    5. MTMike Tyson28:46

       We're talking about the burning bush and everything's in there, man.

    6. JRJoe Rogan28:50

       Yeah, the burning bush.

    7. MTMike Tyson28:50

       (laughs)

    8. JRJoe Rogan28:50

       Yeah, the burning bush is DMT.

    9. MTMike Tyson28:51

       I love the bur- I love the burning bush.

    10. JRJoe Rogan28:53

        It makes sense. They say that that tree that is in that area, the acacia tree, that tr- tree is rich in DMT.

    11. MTMike Tyson29:00

        (inhales deeply) This book I read, what's it called? The, uh, the thing? What was it? I forgot, but, um, I did it in an audiobook. If you heard this guy reading to ... You would think this guy is hot.

    12. JRJoe Rogan29:14

        What is it about?

    13. MTMike Tyson29:15

        I forgot the... (smacks lips)

    14. JRJoe Rogan29:17

        Have you, uh, read... There's a great audiobook that I, I listened to called The Immortality Key.

    15. MTMike Tyson29:22

        Mm-hmm.

    16. JRJoe Rogan29:23

        And I had a guy on the podcast who wrote the book and-

    17. MTMike Tyson29:26

        Immortal Code?

    18. JRJoe Rogan29:27

        No, The Immortality Key is all about psychedelics in ancient religions. And it's, uh, he's got, uh, they've opened up a field of study at Harvard, so they're studying this at Harvard now. All the ancient Greeks?

    19. MTMike Tyson29:39

        Mm-hmm.

    20. JRJoe Rogan29:39

        They were all tripping.

    21. MTMike Tyson29:40

        Yeah.

    22. JRJoe Rogan29:41

        That's what they were doing. They've, they have evidence now, Mike. They've found these ancient pots that they used for their ceremonies and there's LSD residue in 'em.

    23. MTMike Tyson29:49

        I know. Alexander the Great-

    24. JRJoe Rogan29:51

        Yeah.

    25. MTMike Tyson29:51

        ... he went in, when he went to As- know what, listen. He fell in love with the Afghan people, but when he went there, he got fucked up.

    26. JRJoe Rogan29:57

        I'm sure.

    27. MTMike Tyson29:57

        He said, "Oh, I love you guys. You guys are-"

    28. JRJoe Rogan30:00

        (laughs)

    29. MTMike Tyson30:00

        That's what he said, "You guys are so beautiful. God made you guys so beautiful. God..." He, all of his men, he, like every one of his men that got killed, next thing you know, they got Afghanian generals. They're saying, "We supposed to rule these people." (laughs) "Why we got these guys as generals?" He fell in love with them. They got him high off the hash and all that.

    30. JRJoe Rogan30:16

        Wow.
11. 35:11 – 40:23

    Predators, tiger attacks, and ‘addicted to chaos’ people

    1. JRJoe Rogan35:11

       There's this area of India called the Sunderbans, and it's this just river where the water is not quite fresh and it's not quite s- it's all brackish, there's too much salt in the water. And they think it might be one of the reasons why the tigers are so aggressive there, that they're constantly irritated. But the tigers in that area have killed some insane amount of people over the last 100 years.

    2. MTMike Tyson35:30

       You saw the tiger grab that lady out of the car?

    3. JRJoe Rogan35:33

       Oh yeah, I did. Yeah.

    4. MTMike Tyson35:33

       When they was on-

    5. JRJoe Rogan35:34

       The car part?

    6. MTMike Tyson35:34

       ... they had an argument, they had an argument-

    7. JRJoe Rogan35:35

       Yeah.

    8. MTMike Tyson35:35

       ... so she got out of the car, "Get the fuck out the car, nigga."

    9. JRJoe Rogan35:37

       Yeah.

    10. MTMike Tyson35:37

        "Get the f-  (laughs) and the guy tried to run back and next thing you know he ran to the car, said, "Hold on, let them go." You know, she lived. The mother died.

    11. JRJoe Rogan35:43

        "Get out of here." No yeah, the mother died, I remember.

    12. MTMike Tyson35:45

        The mother died. 'Cause the mother went to save her-

    13. JRJoe Rogan35:47

        Yeah.

    14. MTMike Tyson35:47

        ... and the mother got killed by a tiger.

    15. JRJoe Rogan35:49

        (exhales heavily)

    16. MTMike Tyson35:49

        She fucking lived. They-

    17. JRJoe Rogan35:50

        Well-

    18. MTMike Tyson35:51

        ... that thing dragged her off.

    19. JRJoe Rogan35:52

        Whatever she get into is gonna argue with a motherfucker. Say, "Get out the car, nigga. Get the fuck out."

    20. MTMike Tyson35:56

        (laughs)

    21. JRJoe Rogan35:56

        "Uh, I don't wanna hear this shit, now get the fuck out." "All right." Boom.

    22. MTMike Tyson35:59

        (laughs)

    23. JRJoe Rogan35:59

        Could you imagine being with a woman who's so fucking crazy that she pulls one of those-

    24. MTMike Tyson36:02

        That's what it was.

    25. JRJoe Rogan36:03

        ... get out of the car things.

    26. MTMike Tyson36:04

        That's what it was.

    27. JRJoe Rogan36:04

        Yeah.

    28. MTMike Tyson36:05

        That's what it was.

    29. JRJoe Rogan36:05

        In a fucking park filled with tigers.

    30. MTMike Tyson36:07

        And, I'm not gonna say anybody deserves that, but some people need to just stop the bullshit, you know? (laughs)
12. 40:23 – 1:06:33

    Mike Tyson’s big cats: living with tigers, licenses, feeding, and the illusion of control

    1. JRJoe Rogan40:23

       But having a big cat for a pet, eventually-

    2. MTMike Tyson40:26

       I used to swim in the pool with them.

    3. JRJoe Rogan40:28

       Really?

    4. MTMike Tyson40:29

       Yeah, they love swimming.

    5. JRJoe Rogan40:30

       So what did you do when you weren't around? Like, if you had to leave, you had to go to camp, if you had to do anything, like where did you do with the cats?

    6. MTMike Tyson40:37

       They came with me.

    7. JRJoe Rogan40:38

       Really? They traveled with you?

    8. MTMike Tyson40:39

       I had, I had, I had 18 wheels. I have big trucks-

    9. JRJoe Rogan40:41

       Whoa.

    10. MTMike Tyson40:41

        ... with them in cages. I had big, they, they live big, baby.

    11. JRJoe Rogan40:44

        (laughs)

    12. MTMike Tyson40:44

        You know, I'm the heavyweight champ of the world. They live big. When I go somewhere, they go with me.

    13. JRJoe Rogan40:48

        Wow.

    14. MTMike Tyson40:49

        Even if it takes days and they think.

    15. JRJoe Rogan40:51

        Wow.

    16. MTMike Tyson40:51

        I would put, I would, I would, (sighs) I would have them, um, expedited on the plane. I would... (laughs)

    17. JRJoe Rogan40:56

        Wow.

    18. MTMike Tyson40:56

        You know, I just, I didn't care.

    19. JRJoe Rogan40:59

        So when you got to a place, like say if you were training like for a fight and you brought them with you, what would you do? Have a cage set up for them?

    20. MTMike Tyson41:06

        No, I would have the truck that I always have the en- encagement already built at the house. But first thing morning, all, I would have my, um, my receipt for my ta- You know, you have to have, every time they move, you have to have a license for them. If they move into Vegas, all right, we have to have the Vegas license. They move to New York, we need a New York license.

    21. JRJoe Rogan41:22

        Right, right, right.

    22. MTMike Tyson41:23

        And, and New York is so hard to get a life for live animals, you know, endangered species. So hard.

    23. JRJoe Rogan41:28

        There was a dude, they found, uh, alligator in his apartment.

    24. MTMike Tyson41:32

        Alligator. Listen, the alligator-

    25. JRJoe Rogan41:32

        (laughs)

    26. MTMike Tyson41:32

        No, no, that's not what happened. This is what they had. In New York, right?

    27. JRJoe Rogan41:37

        Yes, in New York.

    28. MTMike Tyson41:38

        He had, mm-mm. He had an alligator in the bathtub-

    29. JRJoe Rogan41:40

        Right. And a tiger.

    30. MTMike Tyson41:40

        ... and he had a tiger. Yes.

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