Joe Rogan Experience #1806 - Duncan Trussell

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   (drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast,…

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:00

      (drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

   2. NANarrator0:04

      The Joe Rogan Experience.

   3. Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music) We have to be really careful that we don't catch on fire.

   4. DTDuncan Trussell0:20

      Oh, yeah.

   5. NANarrator0:23

      (laughs)

   6. DTDuncan Trussell0:24

      (laughs)

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:24

      (laughs)

   8. DTDuncan Trussell0:24

      That would be really awesome. I mean, it would be horrible for us-

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:27

      (coughs) Terribly.

   10. DTDuncan Trussell0:28

       ... but that would, uh, right?

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:28

       It would be funny. I mean, we have (coughs) f- fake hair and plastic robes on. Not good.

   12. DTDuncan Trussell0:34

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:34

       I mean, these are nylon robes and nylon hair. (coughs)

   14. DTDuncan Trussell0:38

       (coughs) We would be like Michael Jackson. This, it would be the Michael Jackson moment. Remember when he caught on fire that-

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:43

       He was on a Pepsi commercial, right?

   16. DTDuncan Trussell0:45

       Yeah, yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:45

       That really fucked him up apparently.

   18. DTDuncan Trussell0:47

       That was the beginning of the end.

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:49

       Yeah, well, I think the end was, like, already it.

   20. DTDuncan Trussell0:51

       (laughs)

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:51

       I think it was already, he was already white by then.

   22. DTDuncan Trussell0:54

       (laughs)

   23. JRJoe Rogan0:54

       (laughs) You can't say that was the beginning of the end. That dude was, you know, many plastic surgeries in. He's one of those g- ca- Like, Eddie Bravo always used to say that, like, that Eddie, that, um, Michael Jackson's plastic surgeon does not advertise that he's Michael Jackson's-

   24. DTDuncan Trussell1:09

       (laughs)

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:09

       ... plastic surgeon. You imagine you have the biggest star in the world and you do his plastic surgery, he'd be like, "Not me."

   26. DTDuncan Trussell1:15

       "Not me."

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:16

       "I have nothing to do with that."

   28. DTDuncan Trussell1:18

       "Not me." Yeah. No, that, yeah. His, like, it was insane-

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:22

       Yeah.

   30. DTDuncan Trussell1:22

       ... how much they shaved that guy's face down. Li- It was like-
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   Right. …

   1. DTDuncan Trussell15:01

      it's a PR firm, basically.

   2. JRJoe Rogan15:03

      Right.

   3. DTDuncan Trussell15:03

      You know, politicians have publicists too.

   4. JRJoe Rogan15:05

      Isn't it wild, though, that that's the best way to defeat America, is to get people separate from each other, arguing with t- with each other and lose all faith in the democratic process?

   5. DTDuncan Trussell15:17

      Yeah, sure.

   6. JRJoe Rogan15:18

      All faith in democracy. Lose all faith.

   7. DTDuncan Trussell15:20

      Powerful weapon, man. It's like an a-

   8. JRJoe Rogan15:21

      It's amazing.

   9. DTDuncan Trussell15:22

      We dropped an atom bomb multiple times on cities filled with people. United States did that. Everyone knows that. So our karma, hoo, we've got some fucked up karma, man.

   10. JRJoe Rogan15:36

       (laughs)

   11. DTDuncan Trussell15:36

       You know what I mean? So-

   12. JRJoe Rogan15:38

       Ugh.

   13. DTDuncan Trussell15:38

       ... so, like the, so-

   14. JRJoe Rogan15:39

       (laughs)

   15. DTDuncan Trussell15:39

       ... the problem with these atom bombs, biggest problem with the atom bomb, is, I mean, aside from the fact that it kills random people and is, i- is horrible, it irradiates them. I- it irradiates the ground, the buildings. So you, so there's no plundering to be had. If you, you, traditional war, you plunder, whether you-

   16. JRJoe Rogan15:56

       Yeah.

   17. DTDuncan Trussell15:56

       ... however you want to make it look. You're plundering. If I nuke you, I can no longer plunder. So, this is why biological weapons popped, like, are- are desirable, 'cause then it burns out the biome in the area. Wait a little bit, and then you can go plunder. But even better than that, get into the fucking minds of the people in the country that you want to invade, and then just change their minds so that the country shifts into what you wanted that country to be. Now you didn't even have to sh- do anything, except they're yours. They're believing in you, and then in that, the country starts falling apart. The CIA, by the way, this is one of the things they do. They go into other countries. They cause, like, uh-

   18. JRJoe Rogan16:41

       Yeah.

   19. DTDuncan Trussell16:41

       ... disturbances, and then it collapses. I mean, it's a classic weapon of war. So anyway, yeah, I v- obviously, we might be, the entire United States and probably other countries might currently be irradiated, not by like, obviously radiation, but by bad data created by artificial intelligence, bots that have been programmed to swarm social media and give the impression that there was some, like, something happening that wasn't even happening at all.

   20. JRJoe Rogan17:09

       You know why- when I get the most suspicious that someone's a bot?

   21. DTDuncan Trussell17:13

       When?

   22. JRJoe Rogan17:13

       When they have an American flag next to their name.

   23. DTDuncan Trussell17:16

       Oh, yeah. That's a bot.

   24. JRJoe Rogan17:17

       I automatically assume that's a bot.

   25. DTDuncan Trussell17:20

       Flag bots. Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan17:20

       I see that and I go, "Oh, they're, they're one of those fake, like-

   27. DTDuncan Trussell17:24

       Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan17:24

       ... you know, God-before-country people."

   29. DTDuncan Trussell17:27

       That's right.

   30. JRJoe Rogan17:27

       You know? (laughs)
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   Well, yeah. It seems…

   1. JRJoe Rogan30:00

      normal family life, right?

   2. DTDuncan Trussell30:02

      Well, yeah. It seems like he had a, like his parents seemed just kind of like normal.

   3. JRJoe Rogan30:06

      Yeah.

   4. DTDuncan Trussell30:07

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan30:07

      That was a weird one. Like most the time there's like abuse-

   6. DTDuncan Trussell30:11

      Abuse.

   7. JRJoe Rogan30:11

      ... and foster care or something-

   8. DTDuncan Trussell30:13

      Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan30:13

      ... some, some great hurt that's put on them.

   10. DTDuncan Trussell30:15

       Yeah. Yeah, it's, it's, it's like the h- like, to me, this thing you're talking about-

   11. JRJoe Rogan30:23

       Yeah.

   12. DTDuncan Trussell30:23

       ... is we're gonna get better at it as a species. And what that is, is putting away the aggression. That's normal. Aggression happens when animals feel confronted, so we s- we're, we still have that. So you feel confronted in any way, even if it's a small disagreement, some weird animal part of you starts hissing.

   13. JRJoe Rogan30:45

       Hm.

   14. DTDuncan Trussell30:45

       And i-... some people listen to that, and then they're like, "Fuck!" And then they get weird when they're having the, a debate with somebody because the animal is hissing through whatever they're saying. So if you can put that away, and then you look at the person and recognize, "This is just me after a bunch of weird turns. I would have been this person."

   15. JRJoe Rogan31:04

       Yeah.

   16. DTDuncan Trussell31:05

       And then somewhere in there, you can really have, like, an actual chat with a person because at least you're, y- if, if that creature ins-, if the thing inside of them starts hissing, and then that makes the thing inside of you start hissing, then you're basically just having a seizure or something (laughs) disguised as a conversation. You're just barking.

   17. JRJoe Rogan31:24

       Mm-hmm.

   18. DTDuncan Trussell31:24

       It's like when you walk by a yard and your dogs start screaming at each other. You know, I, I don't think that the dogs are like... I think there's just, they don't, I think it's like when a dog barks, it's like when we sneeze. Like, they can't control it. All of a sudden, it's just like, "Ar, ar, ar," and the other one's barking. I'm just saying, if we are debating with all this aggression, I don't even know if we're human at that moment. I, I think we're just hissing at each other and pretending what we're saying has some kind of importance in the world. I mean, it would probably be healthier to just, like, instead of, uh, you know, f- angrily fighting with somebody, right?

   19. JRJoe Rogan32:02

       Right, 'cause sometimes when people are talking, they're not really saying anything anyway. They're just barking at each other.

   20. DTDuncan Trussell32:08

       Exactly. Just dogs yapping at each other online, the most depressing thing ever.

   21. JRJoe Rogan32:14

       Imagine if everyone alive is, at their essence, the exact same thing, just interacting with the rest of the universe through different biological filters.

   22. DTDuncan Trussell32:27

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan32:27

       But, like, everyone's the exact same thing, whether you're born in China, whether you're born-

   24. DTDuncan Trussell32:35

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan32:35

       ... in Pittsburgh, doesn't matter.

   26. DTDuncan Trussell32:37

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan32:37

       It's just, you're going through different biological filters and different life experiences-

   28. DTDuncan Trussell32:42

       Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan32:43

       ... to interact with the universe, but you, the sa- What makes you makes me. It's the same thing. I'm just going through this body, you're going through that body. I'm going through this path, you're going through that path.

   30. DTDuncan Trussell32:54

       Yeah.
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   Well, don't you think…

   1. DTDuncan Trussell45:00

      we already are under the spell of a hypnotic alien technological creature that's convinced us that we're living our lives when, in fact, it's just captured us and is feeding memories into whatever we are to give the impression that we're living a life.

   2. JRJoe Rogan45:15

      Well, don't you think it mimics so many other predator-prey relationships, or at least, at least... That's kind of dramatic. At least symbiotic relationships?

   3. DTDuncan Trussell45:26

      Yeah.

   4. JRJoe Rogan45:26

      We know, like, animals and even plants and fungus have these symbiotic relationships-

   5. DTDuncan Trussell45:31

      Yeah.

   6. JRJoe Rogan45:31

      ... and that they develop alongside us, like they need us.

   7. DTDuncan Trussell45:35

      Right.

   8. JRJoe Rogan45:35

      You, you know the Marshall McLuhan cl- quote?

   9. DTDuncan Trussell45:37

      Yeah.

   10. JRJoe Rogan45:37

       Do you know the quote?

   11. DTDuncan Trussell45:38

       Machines.

   12. JRJoe Rogan45:38

       "Human beings are the sex organs of the machine world."

   13. DTDuncan Trussell45:41

       Yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan45:41

       Like, that's it, man.

   15. DTDuncan Trussell45:43

       Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan45:43

       Like, he was onto that in the 1960s, you know?

   17. DTDuncan Trussell45:46

       Yeah. That, that is a, a really, like, terrifying possibility that-

   18. JRJoe Rogan45:52

       (laughs)

   19. DTDuncan Trussell45:52

       ... we don't wanna think about. It's like one of those-

   20. JRJoe Rogan45:54

       (laughs)

   21. DTDuncan Trussell45:54

       ... unthinkables.

   22. JRJoe Rogan45:56

       It's... But it has to be true because we're imperfect. So, if we're imperfect, there has to be like a next version of us. The scary thing for us... Because what we have that's unusual is we have all these emotions and this ability to express ourselves.

   23. DTDuncan Trussell46:10

       Yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan46:10

       We have love and hate, and we have all of this excitement-

   25. DTDuncan Trussell46:14

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan46:14

       ... that comes with being a person, and we don't ever wanna let that go. But if we wanted, like, ultimate harmony and wanted people to really understand that you are just me-

   27. DTDuncan Trussell46:23

       Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan46:23

       ... looking at life through a different biological filter, that we're all, uh, in the same essence, of the, of the same essence-

   29. DTDuncan Trussell46:30

       Yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan46:30

       ... every person. Well, y- you know, that's a controversial idea, Duncan.
5. 1:00:00 – 1:15:00

   People would go, "Oh,…

   1. DTDuncan Trussell1:00:00

      kill people."

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:00:01

      People would go, "Oh, God."

   3. DTDuncan Trussell1:00:02

      Yeah, but-

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:00:02

      "No one's killing anyone."

   5. DTDuncan Trussell1:00:03

      Here we go. Okay. What?

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:00:05

      "No one's saying you should kill people." My God.

   7. DTDuncan Trussell1:00:07

      Yeah, now it's-

   8. JRJoe Rogan1:00:08

      So now-

   9. DTDuncan Trussell1:00:08

      ... sometimes you do kind of need to... Which is wha-... And which is like, uh, uh, I think really a, uh, uh, a quality of the age that we're in. There's a great book by Tolstoy that I read a long time ago. The argument is you can't be a Christian and be at war. Uh, a Christian cannot kill, period, the end. You can't do it. It's, uh... I think it's called The Kingdom of Heaven is Within. It's a great book.

   10. JRJoe Rogan1:00:36

       Mm-hmm.

   11. DTDuncan Trussell1:00:36

       But the, you know, the, the... That was what was wr-... To me, one of the cool things about Christianity is, like, it's very radical. The idea is like if you're a s-... If you... If your job involves brutalizing somebody else-... regardless of why or what state you're in or where you're at or what's going on, no matter wh- what language you speak, you can't do it.

   12. JRJoe Rogan1:00:57

       Yeah, don't do that, dude.

   13. DTDuncan Trussell1:00:58

       Don't do that. You can't do it. You can't really do it and then go to church, "Oh, please, Lord, bless me and my family," after you just fucking lobbed a missile into, randomly into a place. You, some of these people are doing that and then afterwards, like, cr- you know, crossing themselves. They're being like, "Oh, thank, thank you, Lord, that my missile has struck its target." You know, the Crusades, all that shit, it's still happening. But, but-

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:01:24

       It's always been. It's always been.

   15. DTDuncan Trussell1:01:26

       Yeah, man.

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:01:26

       It's, it's like a, a, when people figured out that in large numbers you could conquer entire cities and take over them-

   17. DTDuncan Trussell1:01:34

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:01:34

       ... and you think about what it must have been like living in, during, like, the rise of the Mongols.

   19. DTDuncan Trussell1:01:39

       Ugh.

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:01:40

       Imagine what it's like, and you're in some city in China just chilling, and the hoards come through the fucking gates.

   21. DTDuncan Trussell1:01:47

       Yeah, yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:01:47

       And they just start murdering people-

   23. DTDuncan Trussell1:01:49

       Yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:01:50

       ... and lighting them on fire and putting them in catapults and shooting them out of roofs-

   25. DTDuncan Trussell1:01:53

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:01:53

       ... and lighting the buildings on fire.

   27. DTDuncan Trussell1:01:55

       Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:01:55

       Whoa.

   29. DTDuncan Trussell1:01:56

       Right.

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:01:57

       Imagine.
6. 1:15:00 – 1:17:24

   (laughs) …

   1. DTDuncan Trussell1:15:00

      all completely gone. Then also, we believe these memories knowing that generally, we can't remember shit.

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:15:08

      (laughs)

   3. DTDuncan Trussell1:15:08

      Like, our, you know what I mean? (laughs) Like, you, it's somehow you have these memories-

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:15:11

      Yeah.

   5. DTDuncan Trussell1:15:11

      ... where you're like, "Well, that must be what happened," or-

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:15:13

      Right.

   7. DTDuncan Trussell1:15:14

      ... or, "That must be clear." That's definitely not the case. Y- your, your memory, you're, you're not a vault. You know, your memories are probably distorted at the least, if not completely warped, if not implanted.

   8. JRJoe Rogan1:15:25

      You ever go back to your high school house?

   9. DTDuncan Trussell1:15:27

      It's the creepiest shit ever, dude. It's creepy.

   10. JRJoe Rogan1:15:30

       It's weird, right?

   11. DTDuncan Trussell1:15:30

       It's fucked up. Yes. Dude, yes. And it is, it's so funny, when did you do, why'd you mention that? I, that's nuts, dude. I-

   12. JRJoe Rogan1:15:39

       I don't know. Um, I, I did it once, and it was very different than what I remembered.

   13. DTDuncan Trussell1:15:44

       Yes.

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:15:44

       That's why. 'Cause, uh, uh, I wonder, like, what, you know, (sighs) especially the way things look. Like, you see them a second time, and you're like, "Oh, yeah!"

   15. DTDuncan Trussell1:15:54

       Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:15:54

       "That's what it really looked like."

   17. DTDuncan Trussell1:15:55

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:15:55

       Like, "I had it in my head all screwy."

   19. DTDuncan Trussell1:15:57

       Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:15:57

       And then you had to go there and see, and you realize, like, even my memories of yesterday, it's just a blurry slideshow-

   21. DTDuncan Trussell1:16:03

       Yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:16:04

       ... that I can barely put in order.

   23. DTDuncan Trussell1:16:06

       Can't smell.

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:16:07

       Barely. Yeah.

   25. DTDuncan Trussell1:16:07

       Can't smell your memories, can't hear, can't-

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:16:09

       Right.

   27. DTDuncan Trussell1:16:09

       ... can't, like, taste in your memories. It's a-

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:16:11

       Until they put that chip in your head, Duncan-

   29. DTDuncan Trussell1:16:14

       And now you can taste your memories.

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:16:15

       ... and then Technicolor, you become a god.

Episode duration: 3:03:16