Joe Rogan Experience #1809 - Jessica Kirson

1. 0:02 – 4:20

   Cold open and jumping into the Depp–Heard trial as a cautionary tale

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:02

      (drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

   2. JKJessica Kirson0:04

      The Joe Rogan Experience.

   3. NANarrator0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (heavy guitar music)

   4. JKJessica Kirson0:12

      I look at all the women and I just said that.

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:15

      (laughs) Well, it's- he- way easier for you to say that than me.

   6. JKJessica Kirson0:19

      I'm part woman.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:20

      I'm watching this fucking Johnny Depp-

   8. JKJessica Kirson0:23

      I've haven't-

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:23

      ... trial.

   10. JKJessica Kirson0:23

       ... but I'm dying to know about it.

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:25

       (sighs) I'm watching this trial like it's a cautionary tale. It's a cautionary tale about believing in bullshit, c- like forming a narrative in your head like, "We're rebels together. We're gonna-"

   12. JKJessica Kirson0:36

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:37

       You know? It's- that's what I felt like about Anthony Bourdain and his relationship too, that crazy woman.

   14. JKJessica Kirson0:42

       Mm-hmm.

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:42

       But i- and then you're seeing it all play out in court. Like you're seeing all the crazy come out. You know? Do you know the fact, like he- he talked about her shitting in his bed?

   16. JKJessica Kirson0:54

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:55

       Yeah, it was great.

   18. JKJessica Kirson0:56

       So hot.

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:57

       It's- do you think?

   20. JKJessica Kirson0:58

       No. (laughs)

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:58

       No. No, right? It's a real- a real problem. (laughs)

   22. JKJessica Kirson1:01

       Don't-

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:02

       Hard to forget.

   24. JKJessica Kirson1:03

       It's a real problem.

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:04

       (laughs) That's hard to forget. But-

   26. JKJessica Kirson1:07

       (snorts)

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:07

       ... she said that she used this specific makeup to cover all of her bruises that Johnny gave her, which is not true. And, uh-

   28. JKJessica Kirson1:14

       Specific makeup.

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:15

       And that speci- well, the problem is it was a specific makeup and it turns out that the company didn't even make that makeup at the time that she was claiming she was using it.

   30. JKJessica Kirson1:24

       Oh, wow. That's cra- really?
2. 4:20 – 7:12

   “Fecal delivery”: the bed-pooping story and why the internet is obsessed

   1. JKJessica Kirson4:20

      So... (laughs) Okay, so they said that she shit in his bed. For what reason? To mark territory?

   2. JRJoe Rogan4:26

      Jimmy, what happened here? Johnny Depp testified that Amber Heard ate a Cheesy Gordita Crunch from Taco Bell-

   3. JKJessica Kirson4:30

      (laughs)

   4. JRJoe Rogan4:30

      ... before the... That might be- that might not be-

   5. JKJessica Kirson4:31

      Breaking news.

   6. NANarrator4:34

      Yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan4:34

      ... that might be fake.

   8. JKJessica Kirson4:34

      (laughs)

   9. NANarrator4:34

      Let me see.

   10. JKJessica Kirson4:36

       Okay, let's see. (laughs)

   11. JRJoe Rogan4:38

       That might be fake news.

   12. NANarrator4:39

       Uh...

   13. JRJoe Rogan4:42

       We're gonna find out whether or not Amber Heard shit in the bed next on the Joe Rogan Experience.

   14. JKJessica Kirson4:48

       (laughs) Dun, dun, dun, dun.

   15. NANarrator4:49

       Let's see this. Well, I'm trying to... Uh, yeah. Okay, here's Newsweek.

   16. JRJoe Rogan4:56

       Okay, clips of Johnny Depp accusing-

   17. JKJessica Kirson4:58

       Uh, yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan4:58

       ... Amber Heard of defecating in bed go viral. Th- imagine, what a slow week for news.

   19. JKJessica Kirson5:03

       (laughs)

   20. JRJoe Rogan5:03

       That N- Newsweek is like, "Fuck Syria, forget about the Ukraine. Let's- let's find out about pooping."

   21. JKJessica Kirson5:09

       There's children's hospitals being blown up in Ukraine, but let's find out if she shit in his bed.

   22. JRJoe Rogan5:14

       Yeah. Look at it. "M- On my side of the bed was human fecal matter." (laughs)

   23. JKJessica Kirson5:19

       (laughs)

   24. JRJoe Rogan5:19

       Let me hear how he says it.

   25. NANarrator5:24

       It wasn't a good time... ... human fecal matter.

   26. JKJessica Kirson5:26

       Jesus Christ.

   27. NANarrator5:29

       Um, so I understood why it wasn't a good time to go down there. She was sitting on one side of the couch. I was sitting on the other. Sh- that's when sh- she was trying to explain a few things about, uh, Coachella and then the fe- fecal, uh, delivery, um, and say- saying that it was the dogs, and I- I could... I'm sorry, I could not agree with her. I've lived with those dogs. I've picked up their fun. It was not-

   28. The dogs. (laughing)

   29. JRJoe Rogan6:13

       (laughs) Look at his face. First of all, he's ... This is a big win for Johnny Depp.

   30. JKJessica Kirson6:17

       (laughs)
3. 7:12 – 9:46

   Prenups, power imbalance, and the darker details of the relationship

   1. JRJoe Rogan7:12

      Through all of this. But this is, like, what, what can happen to a guy like that, if you get caught up in that romantic idea that, "This is my woman." And he didn't even sign a prenup.

   2. JKJessica Kirson7:22

      (laughs)

   3. JRJoe Rogan7:22

      He was worth like $300 million.

   4. JKJessica Kirson7:23

      Oh my God.

   5. JRJoe Rogan7:24

      And he didn't sign a prenup.

   6. JKJessica Kirson7:25

      (laughs) What an idiot. You know what? Then he, like ... (laughs)

   7. JRJoe Rogan7:30

      Well, uh, Amber, uh, insisted we were in love.

   8. JKJessica Kirson7:33

      (laughs)

   9. JRJoe Rogan7:34

      We wouldn't need a prenup.

   10. NANarrator7:35

       And like, I didn't expect her to take a fucking shit in my bed.

   11. JRJoe Rogan7:40

       (imitates wind blowing) How long were they even married for?

   12. JKJessica Kirson7:42

       I don't know, 11 days.

   13. NANarrator7:43

       My question, I just ... They're in Virginia, in Fairfax, Virginia?

   14. JRJoe Rogan7:46

       That's where the court is?

   15. NANarrator7:47

       Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan7:48

       I wonder if it's, like, favorable for plaintiffs there, you know, because it's a civil ... The l- it's a civil case, where he's suing her for $50 million. It's like a defamation case. The thing is, is like-

   17. NANarrator8:01

       (laughs)

   18. JRJoe Rogan8:01

       ... there was a video that, or an audio recording that came out, where she was admitting to hitting him. She was admit ... Like, she changed this narrative, and, uh, the way she was talking about it publicly is that he was abusive, and that sh- you know, she was just his victim and she tried to protect him by not telling anybody. And then there's ... I think that's roughly it. And then there was this audio recording, that he had secretly recorded, where she's talking about hitting him, and he said, "You punched me."

   19. NANarrator8:25

       (laughs)

   20. JRJoe Rogan8:25

       And he said, uh, "I didn't punch you. I hit you," and then he was like-

   21. NANarrator8:28

       "I didn't punch you. I hit you."

   22. JRJoe Rogan8:29

       Yeah, that's a good voice. That's a good voice.

   23. NANarrator8:31

       "No, you punched me."

   24. JRJoe Rogan8:34

       (laughs)

   25. NANarrator8:34

       "No, I didn't. I didn't punch you." "Yeah, you did."

   26. JRJoe Rogan8:41

       (laughs)

   27. NANarrator8:41

       "No, I didn't."

   28. JRJoe Rogan8:42

       (laughs)

   29. NANarrator8:43

       "Yeah, you d- you totally punched me."

   30. JRJoe Rogan8:47

       "You totally punched me."
4. 9:46 – 20:46

   From celebrity scandal to cocaine talk: cutting drugs, laxatives, and personal experiences

   1. JRJoe Rogan9:46

      She probably did Ex- uh, um, Ex-Lax, like, cut ecstasy. Like, ecstasy that's cut with Ex-Lax.

   2. JKJessica Kirson9:52

      (laughs)

   3. JRJoe Rogan9:52

      You know they do that.

   4. JKJessica Kirson9:54

      With Ex-Lax?

   5. JRJoe Rogan9:55

      Yes. They cut, uh, cocaine. They cut cocaine with Ex-Lax. Yeah.

   6. JKJessica Kirson9:59

      Are you kidding me?

   7. JRJoe Rogan10:00

      No, not at all.

   8. JKJessica Kirson10:01

      'Cause cocaine is already Ex-Lax.

   9. JRJoe Rogan10:03

      They, no, they definitely do. They do it because, uh-

   10. JKJessica Kirson10:05

       Why?

   11. JRJoe Rogan10:05

       ... 'cause they're dirty people that are just trying to make money off you, right? Like the drug dealers.

   12. JKJessica Kirson10:09

       That's horrible 'cause cocaine made me shit like a motherfucker.

   13. JRJoe Rogan10:12

       Did it?

   14. JKJessica Kirson10:12

       Uh, uh, the second I did cocaine, I shit my brains out.

   15. JRJoe Rogan10:16

       Really?

   16. JKJessica Kirson10:16

       Yes.

   17. JRJoe Rogan10:17

       It's like coffee then.

   18. JKJessica Kirson10:18

       Yeah, it's ve- ... You, you never did cocaine?

   19. JRJoe Rogan10:20

       No, I've never done cocaine.

   20. JKJessica Kirson10:21

       (gasps) I didn't know that. That's incredible that you've never done cocaine. It made me go right away. It made me anxious, so I went immediately.

   21. JRJoe Rogan10:29

       When I was in high school-

   22. JKJessica Kirson10:30

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan10:30

       ... one of my good friends had a cousin that was selling coke.

   24. JKJessica Kirson10:33

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan10:34

       And I saw him lose his, like literally lose his life. He's still alive.

   26. JKJessica Kirson10:37

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan10:38

       But I mean, everything fell apart. He lost all this weight. He was just hiding in ... They had an attic apartment. They were in this attic apartment all day, and all they doing was doing coke-

   28. JKJessica Kirson10:46

       Mm-hmm.

   29. JRJoe Rogan10:46

       ... selling coke and watching TV. And I was like, "Whoa."

   30. JKJessica Kirson10:48

       Yeah, it's bad. Uh, I had a very hard time on that. I got very paranoid. (whoosh) I looked out of a peephole for six hours at a time.
5. 20:46 – 26:27

   Jessica’s sobriety story: pills, Ambien blackouts, relapse cycles, and COVID stress

   1. JKJessica Kirson20:46

      I'm very... I'm, I'm, I can focus when I'm in a conversation, but I'm really... My brain is real... I've done a lot of drugs in my life, Joe.

   2. JRJoe Rogan20:53

      When did you stop?

   3. JKJessica Kirson20:55

      Um, at this point, uh, oh, uh, like a year and seven months ago.

   4. JRJoe Rogan20:59

      Nothing now?

   5. JKJessica Kirson21:00

      Nothing.

   6. JRJoe Rogan21:00

      No coffee?

   7. JKJessica Kirson21:01

      I can't.

   8. JRJoe Rogan21:01

      No cigarettes?

   9. JKJessica Kirson21:01

      Oh, no, I do coffee.

   10. JRJoe Rogan21:03

       Co- oh, that's right.

   11. JKJessica Kirson21:03

       A ton of coffee.

   12. JRJoe Rogan21:05

       You got coffee.

   13. JKJessica Kirson21:05

       But-

   14. JRJoe Rogan21:05

       No cigarettes?

   15. JKJessica Kirson21:05

       No. No. I, I, I can do a little bit of drugs. I-

   16. JRJoe Rogan21:10

       Did you ever smoke cigarettes?

   17. JKJessica Kirson21:11

       ... I'm an animal. Yes.

   18. JRJoe Rogan21:12

       You did?

   19. JKJessica Kirson21:12

       A lot.

   20. JRJoe Rogan21:13

       What was harder to kick, drugs or cigarettes?

   21. JKJessica Kirson21:15

       Cigarettes was fucking hard.

   22. JRJoe Rogan21:17

       Really?

   23. JKJessica Kirson21:18

       Um, it was very hard for me to stop smoking cigarettes when I stopped. Like, I sobbed.

   24. JRJoe Rogan21:24

       Really?

   25. JKJessica Kirson21:24

       It's very en- it's an oral thing. It's like a... It was such a habit.

   26. JRJoe Rogan21:28

       Yeah.

   27. JKJessica Kirson21:29

       But I'd say s- like, quitting s- quitting smoke... Uh, quitting drugs was really tough. But I've, I've... You know, it's not like I quit once and stopped. Like, it wasn't... I, I've relapsed-

   28. JRJoe Rogan21:39

       Right.

   29. JKJessica Kirson21:39

       ... at certain points, so it's not-

   30. JRJoe Rogan21:41

       What was your favorite drug?
6. 26:27 – 29:21

   Being “silly” sober: industry parties, crashing into props, and weaponizing chaos for laughs

   1. JKJessica Kirson26:27

      I'm not like that at all. I'm so silly. Like, at the b- at the, um... (laughs) At the Moon Tower industry party the other night, I fell over on a s- it's on my Instagram page.

   2. JRJoe Rogan26:38

      I saw that. I saw it. (laughs)

   3. JKJessica Kirson26:39

      I f- yeah, I, I fall into things all the time. (laughs)

   4. JRJoe Rogan26:43

      (laughs)

   5. JKJessica Kirson26:43

      I crash into tables and chairs, like, at uptight parties. I'm out of my mind. I'm like a fucking four-year-old.

   6. JRJoe Rogan26:49

      How come every industry party has to have a large-

   7. JKJessica Kirson26:52

      (laughs)

   8. JRJoe Rogan26:52

      ... placard?

   9. JKJessica Kirson26:53

      (laughs)

   10. JRJoe Rogan26:54

       Like, there has to be some wall with logos on it.

   11. JKJessica Kirson26:56

       No one even takes pictures in front of them, and if you do-

   12. JRJoe Rogan26:59

       But I don't understand. But, and you can't just have-

   13. JKJessica Kirson27:03

       I don't know.

   14. JRJoe Rogan27:03

       ... a party. You have to have that wall, right?

   15. JKJessica Kirson27:04

       It's so stupid. It's w- no one even address- well, peop- some people do, I guess. It's- I hate everyone so much. (laughs)

   16. JRJoe Rogan27:14

       (laughs) But what a weird thing that people have, like that one big wall-

   17. JKJessica Kirson27:18

       (laughs)

   18. JRJoe Rogan27:18

       ... where someone's supposed to stand in front of and take photos.

   19. JKJessica Kirson27:21

       I know. I mean, it's s- the world's ending. (laughs) So everyone-

   20. JRJoe Rogan27:25

       (laughs) That's the only time it exists, that kinda thing.

   21. JKJessica Kirson27:29

       They got so mad at me too, the people that put it up. They're like-

   22. JRJoe Rogan27:32

       For falling?

   23. JKJessica Kirson27:33

       Well, I did it on purpose.

   24. JRJoe Rogan27:35

       Oh, you did? Oh.

   25. JKJessica Kirson27:35

       Of course.

   26. JRJoe Rogan27:36

       (laughs)

   27. JKJessica Kirson27:36

       I grabbed onto it and dragged it off. (laughs) Wait.

   28. JRJoe Rogan27:39

       Let's play.

   29. JKJessica Kirson27:41

       (laughs) No, everyone-

   30. JRJoe Rogan27:41

       You did it on purpose?
7. 29:21 – 33:21

   Pratfalls and pain: the Chevy Chase theory and the cost of physical comedy

   1. JRJoe Rogan29:21

      You know, the falling down thing-

   2. JKJessica Kirson29:23

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan29:23

      ... I always, uh, I have this theory about Chevy Chase.

   4. JKJessica Kirson29:27

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan29:27

      'Cause, like, everybody hates Chevy Chase. He's supposed to be an asshole-

   6. JKJessica Kirson29:29

      W- I know.

   7. JRJoe Rogan29:30

      ... and real ag-

   8. JKJessica Kirson29:30

      I hear that a lot.

   9. JRJoe Rogan29:31

      I think he's in pain all the time.

   10. JKJessica Kirson29:33

       Really?

   11. JRJoe Rogan29:33

       Yeah. Uh, yeah, I do, and I think he probably gave himself brain damage. If you watch all of those old SNLs-

   12. JKJessica Kirson29:40

       Mm-hmm.

   13. JRJoe Rogan29:40

       ... and you watch a- all the Fletch movies-

   14. JKJessica Kirson29:42

       Mm-hmm.

   15. JRJoe Rogan29:43

       ... how many times did that guy fall down? Like, all those pratfalls?

   16. JKJessica Kirson29:46

       Oh, yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan29:47

       Those are bad. Like, some of 'em are really bad.

   18. JKJessica Kirson29:50

       Look at him. (laughs)

   19. JRJoe Rogan29:52

       Like, like, no bullshit. Like, the-

   20. JKJessica Kirson29:55

       You're right.

   21. JRJoe Rogan29:55

       ... guy fell constantly.

   22. JKJessica Kirson29:58

       Oh, my God.

   23. JRJoe Rogan29:58

       Look, I mean, there's a whole thing... Like-

   24. JKJessica Kirson30:00

       (laughs)

   25. JRJoe Rogan30:01

       ... dude, let me tell you something. If you do this over and over and over again, you're gonna get hurt. There's no doubt about it.

   26. JKJessica Kirson30:08

       You know, you're right.

   27. JRJoe Rogan30:09

       And he's not, like, an athlete, right? So he's falling. He's just trying to make it the most spectacular fall. Look, look how he's falling. Look how he fell off the fucking stairs like that. Watch this. That is bad.And dude, this happened fucking hundreds of times. He did this on stage, on television, in movies. I mean, th- you're not, he's not faking these falls. I mean, he's trying to protect himself a little bit from falling down, but he's fucking falling and he's falling a lot. And so, when you do this, and you do this dozens of times, 100 times, who knows?

   28. JKJessica Kirson30:47

       (laughs)

   29. JRJoe Rogan30:47

       I guarantee you he got injured. I guarantee you his back's fucked up and most likely his head's fucked up.

   30. JKJessica Kirson30:53

       You know, you're not lying at all because you... When you're like that, like me, you're gonna do whatever you have to do to get a laugh-
8. 33:21 – 44:25

   Sex terms, teen behavior, and the weirdness of modern research

   1. JKJessica Kirson33:21

      What's that new shit about Bill Murray, that he... Did he just hit on someone or something?

   2. JRJoe Rogan33:25

      I do not know what he did.

   3. JKJessica Kirson33:26

      (laughs) I don't either.

   4. JRJoe Rogan33:27

      I know I saw the thing that they shut down production. And the fucked up thing is, it's like a Aziz's movie, so Aziz is making-

   5. JKJessica Kirson33:33

      I know.

   6. JRJoe Rogan33:33

      So Aziz is like, "Yikes!"

   7. JKJessica Kirson33:34

      (laughs)

   8. JRJoe Rogan33:34

      "Shut the movie down." (laughs) I mean, Aziz went down for a consensual sexual encounter with a girl who felt like he was too pushy.

   9. JKJessica Kirson33:43

      Right. It was something about... Wasn't it about eating someone out? (laughs) I love saying that.

   10. JRJoe Rogan33:47

       He ate her out, she blew him-

   11. JKJessica Kirson33:48

       But eat- eating out.

   12. JRJoe Rogan33:49

       ... and then he wanted to keep going.

   13. JKJessica Kirson33:49

       Do you know how old of a term that is?

   14. JRJoe Rogan33:51

       Eating out?

   15. JKJessica Kirson33:51

       I love saying eating out because that's from, like, when I was younger.

   16. JRJoe Rogan33:54

       Is there a new term?

   17. JKJessica Kirson33:54

       Did you eat her out? Yeah, going down on, isn't it like-

   18. JRJoe Rogan33:57

       Going down has been forever.

   19. JKJessica Kirson33:58

       I love going to third. Third now is-

   20. JRJoe Rogan34:01

       (laughs) Third is fingering, isn't it?

   21. JKJessica Kirson34:03

       No.

   22. JRJoe Rogan34:03

       You don't go to third with your face.

   23. JKJessica Kirson34:04

       No, I think it... No, third is-

   24. JRJoe Rogan34:05

       You slide in face first.

   25. JKJessica Kirson34:07

       No, wait a second. This is gonna... People are gonna talk about this from the podcast.

   26. JRJoe Rogan34:10

       Second is breasts.

   27. JKJessica Kirson34:11

       Yeah, third is-

   28. JRJoe Rogan34:12

       First is making out, kissing.

   29. JKJessica Kirson34:13

       Third is eating out, isn't it?

   30. JRJoe Rogan34:15

       No.
9. 44:25 – 1:12:22

   Weight loss, fat activism, and food addiction as slow self-harm

   1. JKJessica Kirson44:25

      'Cause I eat very healthy. I mean, I've lost a shitload of weight.

   2. JRJoe Rogan44:27

      Yeah, you look great.

   3. JKJessica Kirson44:28

      Thank you.

   4. JRJoe Rogan44:29

      How much have you lost since I first met you?

   5. JKJessica Kirson44:31

      Oh, my God. I mean, I've lost, altogether, you're not gonna believe this, but about 150 pounds.

   6. JRJoe Rogan44:36

      That's incredible.

   7. JKJessica Kirson44:37

      It's incredible. But I-

   8. JRJoe Rogan44:38

      I believe it.

   9. JKJessica Kirson44:38

      ... I eat like the way you eat, but I don't eat sugar and white flour and s- but I eat, like, brown rice or sweet potato a little bit. Not a ton.

   10. JRJoe Rogan44:45

       Do you know Laura Bites?

   11. JKJessica Kirson44:46

       Yes.

   12. JRJoe Rogan44:47

       Laura looks fucking amazing.

   13. JKJessica Kirson44:49

       I know.

   14. JRJoe Rogan44:49

       And she, when I met her, she was big.

   15. JKJessica Kirson44:52

       Mm-hmm.

   16. JRJoe Rogan44:52

       And, and she dec- decided over COVID, she's like, "Hey, I realize, like, fucking fat people are dying of this shit."

   17. JKJessica Kirson44:58

       That's what I-

   18. JRJoe Rogan44:59

       That's like what she said.

   19. JKJessica Kirson45:00

       ... yeah, me too. Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan45:00

       Like, "I'm gonna lose weight."

   21. JKJessica Kirson45:01

       Yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan45:01

       And so she got super dedicated, but she's so brave. Like, she posts photos of herself, like, before and after and puts it on Instagram. Like, sh-

   23. JKJessica Kirson45:09

       Mm-hmm.

   24. JRJoe Rogan45:09

       ... shows, like, her at her worst and shows how she looks now, you know?

   25. JKJessica Kirson45:14

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan45:14

       And she, she fucking, she just wants to let everybody know, "Hey, I did it. You can do it too."

   27. JKJessica Kirson45:18

       Mm-hmm.

   28. JRJoe Rogan45:18

       "It's totally possible. I never thought like that. I never thought I was ever gonna be lean."

   29. JKJessica Kirson45:22

       Mm-hmm.

   30. JRJoe Rogan45:23

       And now she looks fucking great.
10. 49:44 – 1:10:57

    Predators and invasive species: rats, poisoned raptors, Everglades pythons, and hatred of reptiles

    1. JRJoe Rogan49:44

       You ever see a seagull swallow a rat?

    2. JKJessica Kirson49:48

       No. (sighs)

    3. JRJoe Rogan49:50

       Jamie? Jamie?

    4. JKJessica Kirson49:51

       I might die if I see this, but...

    5. JRJoe Rogan49:53

       There's a video, I think it's in Italy, a seagull swallows a rat whole.

    6. JKJessica Kirson49:57

       (gasps)

    7. JRJoe Rogan49:57

       And it's not a small rat.

    8. JKJessica Kirson49:58

       Oh, my God.

    9. JRJoe Rogan50:00

       It just picks this thing up, throws its head back, opens up his mouth, and just choke. Watch this. Here it is.

    10. JKJessica Kirson50:05

        Oh, no.

    11. JRJoe Rogan50:06

        Watch this. Look at this.

    12. JKJessica Kirson50:06

        Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

    13. JRJoe Rogan50:09

        Birds don't give a fuck. They don't give a fuck. Watch this again. Look how he picks that right up.

    14. JKJessica Kirson50:14

        Oh, my God.

    15. JRJoe Rogan50:15

        He just swallows the whole thing up. He found a dead rat laying on the street, probably poisoned, and he just swallowed the whole thing. You know, that's a, a real issue with, uh, raptors.

    16. JKJessica Kirson50:26

        (gasps)

    17. JRJoe Rogan50:26

        What is that one?

    18. NANarrator50:27

        Says he's eaten a starfish whole.

    19. JRJoe Rogan50:29

        A starfish?

    20. NANarrator50:29

        There's a few things.

    21. JKJessica Kirson50:30

        Holy shit.

    22. NANarrator50:31

        I've seen one that eats a pigeon whole, too. I didn't click on it, but-

    23. JRJoe Rogan50:32

        Yeah, I've seen the pigeon.

    24. JKJessica Kirson50:33

        But I have a question for you.

    25. JRJoe Rogan50:35

        Yeah?

    26. JKJessica Kirson50:37

        How does it... How does that decompose in that thing's body, in the bird's body? I'm curious.

    27. JRJoe Rogan50:44

        Not good. It's... The bird's gonna die if that rat's poisoned-

    28. JKJessica Kirson50:47

        Wow.

    29. JRJoe Rogan50:47

        ... 'cause then the poison that's in the rat is now in the bird, and it'll eventually go through its digestive tract and into the bloodstream. That's how they... N- There's an issue with owls in the hills.

    30. JKJessica Kirson50:58

        Yeah.
11. 1:10:57 – 1:40:34

    Cities, crime, and politics: NYC decline, tribal partisanship, cancel culture, and Elon buying Twitter

    1. JRJoe Rogan1:10:57

       (sighs) Well, you do.

    2. JKJessica Kirson1:10:58

       I mean, New York is bad too.

    3. JRJoe Rogan1:11:00

       Oh, for crime?

    4. JKJessica Kirson1:11:00

       I'm not talking about the homeless thing. Yeah, it's really bad for crime.

    5. JRJoe Rogan1:11:02

       Crime's bad, well, when you don't arrest people.

    6. JKJessica Kirson1:11:05

       I know.

    7. JRJoe Rogan1:11:05

       And when you, when they arrest them-

    8. JKJessica Kirson1:11:05

       It's really bad.

    9. JRJoe Rogan1:11:06

       ... and then run them right back out.

    10. JKJessica Kirson1:11:07

        I know.

    11. JRJoe Rogan1:11:08

        Yeah.

    12. JKJessica Kirson1:11:09

        I mean, i- i- it's gotten so crazy. Like, I'm g... I'm the kind of person where I say it's, it's not good. I did it last night in Austin, where if I think someone's being bullied or things are happening, I speak out. It's not a good thing to do, especially 'cause I'm a woman. I mean, I'm being honest. Like, I'll be like, "You know, what are you doing?" Like, I get involved and I-

    13. JRJoe Rogan1:11:27

        Did you see somebody on the street who was suffering?

    14. JKJessica Kirson1:11:28

        Yeah, and I stick up for people. It's not good. I did it last night with a, a little, a guy that was riding the bike. He was torturing this drunk guy on the street. He kept riding into him.

    15. JRJoe Rogan1:11:38

        Oh, Jesus.

    16. JKJessica Kirson1:11:39

        And I st... I stuck up for the guy. I shouldn't get involved. It's stupid.

    17. JRJoe Rogan1:11:43

        Did the guy get angry at you?

    18. JKJessica Kirson1:11:46

        Uh, yeah. He's like, "Get the fuck out of my room." I'm like, "What are you doing?" You know, I got involved.

    19. JRJoe Rogan1:11:51

        Oof.

    20. JKJessica Kirson1:11:51

        And I'm a woman. But it's crazy, but I can't not say anything.

    21. JRJoe Rogan1:11:54

        So th... It's crazy for guys too, but I, I know what you're saying.

    22. JKJessica Kirson1:11:57

        I know. I'm such a true-

    23. JRJoe Rogan1:11:58

        You could-

    24. JKJessica Kirson1:11:58

        I can't... Uh. So, but in New York I wouldn't dare do that-

    25. JRJoe Rogan1:12:03

        Really?

    26. JKJessica Kirson1:12:03

        ... 'cause I'm gonna get shot. Yeah, it's bad there.

    27. JRJoe Rogan1:12:05

        Uh, i... So, noticeably different?

    28. JKJessica Kirson1:12:07

        Mm-hmm.

    29. JRJoe Rogan1:12:08

        How, when did it shift?

    30. JKJessica Kirson1:12:10

        Um, I'd say during COVID.

Episode duration: 2:51:31