Joe Rogan Experience #1809 - Jessica Kirson

1. 0:02 – 4:06

   Cold open and celebrity chaos: Johnny Depp–Amber Heard trial reactions

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:02

      (drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

   2. JKJessica Kirson0:04

      The Joe Rogan Experience.

   3. NANarrator0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (heavy guitar music)

   4. JKJessica Kirson0:12

      I look at all the women and I just said that.

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:15

      (laughs) Well, it's- he- way easier for you to say that than me.

   6. JKJessica Kirson0:19

      I'm part woman.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:20

      I'm watching this fucking Johnny Depp-

   8. JKJessica Kirson0:23

      I've haven't-

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:23

      ... trial.

   10. JKJessica Kirson0:23

       ... but I'm dying to know about it.

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:25

       (sighs) I'm watching this trial like it's a cautionary tale. It's a cautionary tale about believing in bullshit, c- like forming a narrative in your head like, "We're rebels together. We're gonna-"

   12. JKJessica Kirson0:36

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:37

       You know? It's- that's what I felt like about Anthony Bourdain and his relationship too, that crazy woman.

   14. JKJessica Kirson0:42

       Mm-hmm.

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:42

       But i- and then you're seeing it all play out in court. Like you're seeing all the crazy come out. You know? Do you know the fact, like he- he talked about her shitting in his bed?

   16. JKJessica Kirson0:54

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:55

       Yeah, it was great.

   18. JKJessica Kirson0:56

       So hot.

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:57

       It's- do you think?

   20. JKJessica Kirson0:58

       No. (laughs)

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:58

       No. No, right? It's a real- a real problem. (laughs)

   22. JKJessica Kirson1:01

       Don't-

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:02

       Hard to forget.

   24. JKJessica Kirson1:03

       It's a real problem.

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:04

       (laughs) That's hard to forget. But-

   26. JKJessica Kirson1:07

       (snorts)

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:07

       ... she said that she used this specific makeup to cover all of her bruises that Johnny gave her, which is not true. And, uh-

   28. JKJessica Kirson1:14

       Specific makeup.

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:15

       And that speci- well, the problem is it was a specific makeup and it turns out that the company didn't even make that makeup at the time that she was claiming she was using it.

   30. JKJessica Kirson1:24

       Oh, wow. That's cra- really?
2. 4:06 – 9:46

   “Fecal delivery” and the viral-news absurdity of modern media

   1. JKJessica Kirson4:06

      Oh, well, there's a lot of mental issues. And you said she shit in his bed. See, I haven't been following-

   2. JRJoe Rogan4:10

      I didn't say that. They said that.

   3. NANarrator4:12

      Mm-hmm.

   4. JKJessica Kirson4:12

      Who's they?

   5. JRJoe Rogan4:13

      The people on the news. (laughs)

   6. JKJessica Kirson4:15

      (laughs)

   7. JRJoe Rogan4:16

      I think th- (laughs)

   8. JKJessica Kirson4:17

      Well, they're always right.

   9. JRJoe Rogan4:18

      Th- uh, that's what I found out the last year.

   10. JKJessica Kirson4:20

       So... (laughs) Okay, so they said that she shit in his bed. For what reason? To mark territory?

   11. JRJoe Rogan4:26

       Jimmy, what happened here? Johnny Depp testified that Amber Heard ate a Cheesy Gordita Crunch from Taco Bell-

   12. JKJessica Kirson4:30

       (laughs)

   13. JRJoe Rogan4:30

       ... before the... That might be- that might not be-

   14. JKJessica Kirson4:31

       Breaking news.

   15. NANarrator4:34

       Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan4:34

       ... that might be fake.

   17. JKJessica Kirson4:34

       (laughs)

   18. NANarrator4:34

       Let me see.

   19. JKJessica Kirson4:36

       Okay, let's see. (laughs)

   20. JRJoe Rogan4:38

       That might be fake news.

   21. NANarrator4:39

       Uh...

   22. JRJoe Rogan4:42

       We're gonna find out whether or not Amber Heard shit in the bed next on the Joe Rogan Experience.

   23. JKJessica Kirson4:48

       (laughs) Dun, dun, dun, dun.

   24. NANarrator4:49

       Let's see this. Well, I'm trying to... Uh, yeah. Okay, here's Newsweek.

   25. JRJoe Rogan4:56

       Okay, clips of Johnny Depp accusing-

   26. JKJessica Kirson4:58

       Uh, yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan4:58

       ... Amber Heard of defecating in bed go viral. Th- imagine, what a slow week for news.

   28. JKJessica Kirson5:03

       (laughs)

   29. JRJoe Rogan5:03

       That N- Newsweek is like, "Fuck Syria, forget about the Ukraine. Let's- let's find out about pooping."

   30. JKJessica Kirson5:09

       There's children's hospitals being blown up in Ukraine, but let's find out if she shit in his bed.
3. 9:46 – 18:57

   From Depp to drugs: cocaine, cutting agents, and Joe’s anti-coke origin story

   1. JRJoe Rogan9:46

      She probably did Ex- uh, um, Ex-Lax, like, cut ecstasy. Like, ecstasy that's cut with Ex-Lax.

   2. JKJessica Kirson9:52

      (laughs)

   3. JRJoe Rogan9:52

      You know they do that.

   4. JKJessica Kirson9:54

      With Ex-Lax?

   5. JRJoe Rogan9:55

      Yes. They cut, uh, cocaine. They cut cocaine with Ex-Lax. Yeah.

   6. JKJessica Kirson9:59

      Are you kidding me?

   7. JRJoe Rogan10:00

      No, not at all.

   8. JKJessica Kirson10:01

      'Cause cocaine is already Ex-Lax.

   9. JRJoe Rogan10:03

      They, no, they definitely do. They do it because, uh-

   10. JKJessica Kirson10:05

       Why?

   11. JRJoe Rogan10:05

       ... 'cause they're dirty people that are just trying to make money off you, right? Like the drug dealers.

   12. JKJessica Kirson10:09

       That's horrible 'cause cocaine made me shit like a motherfucker.

   13. JRJoe Rogan10:12

       Did it?

   14. JKJessica Kirson10:12

       Uh, uh, the second I did cocaine, I shit my brains out.

   15. JRJoe Rogan10:16

       Really?

   16. JKJessica Kirson10:16

       Yes.

   17. JRJoe Rogan10:17

       It's like coffee then.

   18. JKJessica Kirson10:18

       Yeah, it's ve- ... You, you never did cocaine?

   19. JRJoe Rogan10:20

       No, I've never done cocaine.

   20. JKJessica Kirson10:21

       (gasps) I didn't know that. That's incredible that you've never done cocaine. It made me go right away. It made me anxious, so I went immediately.

   21. JRJoe Rogan10:29

       When I was in high school-

   22. JKJessica Kirson10:30

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan10:30

       ... one of my good friends had a cousin that was selling coke.

   24. JKJessica Kirson10:33

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan10:34

       And I saw him lose his, like literally lose his life. He's still alive.

   26. JKJessica Kirson10:37

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan10:38

       But I mean, everything fell apart. He lost all this weight. He was just hiding in ... They had an attic apartment. They were in this attic apartment all day, and all they doing was doing coke-

   28. JKJessica Kirson10:46

       Mm-hmm.

   29. JRJoe Rogan10:46

       ... selling coke and watching TV. And I was like, "Whoa."

   30. JKJessica Kirson10:48

       Yeah, it's bad. Uh, I had a very hard time on that. I got very paranoid. (whoosh) I looked out of a peephole for six hours at a time.
4. 18:57 – 20:46

   Studio snacks to brain stacks: the free vending machine and nootropics talk

   1. JKJessica Kirson18:57

      Sp- I don't know. You just made me think of food for some reason.

   2. JRJoe Rogan19:00

      Shh.

   3. JKJessica Kirson19:00

      You have an amazing (laughs) vending machine here.

   4. JRJoe Rogan19:02

      It's not bad, right?

   5. JKJessica Kirson19:03

      (laughs) I don't know. I was just talking about branding assholes-

   6. JRJoe Rogan19:06

      It's free.

   7. JKJessica Kirson19:06

      ... and I thought of your vending machine. (laughs)

   8. JRJoe Rogan19:08

      It's good. It's healthy stuff.

   9. JKJessica Kirson19:09

      It's incre- I just got-

   10. JRJoe Rogan19:10

       And it's free.

   11. JKJessica Kirson19:11

       ... 700 things from It's Empty.

   12. JRJoe Rogan19:12

       Yeah.

   13. JKJessica Kirson19:12

       I'm Jewish.

   14. JRJoe Rogan19:13

       That's okay.

   15. JKJessica Kirson19:13

       I literally pressed every button on it.

   16. JRJoe Rogan19:15

       L- we can have-

   17. JKJessica Kirson19:16

       My bag is full.

   18. JRJoe Rogan19:17

       ... cases sent to you. I'll have cases-

   19. JKJessica Kirson19:18

       Thank you.

   20. JRJoe Rogan19:18

       ... of stuff sent to you. You don't have to steal.

   21. JKJessica Kirson19:20

       I want everyone to know. Has anyone talked about your vending machine?

   22. JRJoe Rogan19:23

       I don't think so.

   23. JKJessica Kirson19:24

       Pe- I think your- people here were like, "Oh, boy, I took a lot out of it."

   24. JRJoe Rogan19:28

       (laughs) Did you eat the protein bites?

   25. JKJessica Kirson19:31

       Yes.

   26. JRJoe Rogan19:31

       Those are the best.

   27. JKJessica Kirson19:32

       I-

   28. JRJoe Rogan19:32

       The coconut ones with dark chocolate. Ooh.

   29. JKJessica Kirson19:33

       I took that one.

   30. JRJoe Rogan19:34

       Those are good.
5. 20:46 – 29:21

   Jessica Kirson on sobriety: pills, Ambien blackouts, relapse cycles, and COVID stress

   1. JKJessica Kirson20:46

      I'm very... I'm, I'm, I can focus when I'm in a conversation, but I'm really... My brain is real... I've done a lot of drugs in my life, Joe.

   2. JRJoe Rogan20:53

      When did you stop?

   3. JKJessica Kirson20:55

      Um, at this point, uh, oh, uh, like a year and seven months ago.

   4. JRJoe Rogan20:59

      Nothing now?

   5. JKJessica Kirson21:00

      Nothing.

   6. JRJoe Rogan21:00

      No coffee?

   7. JKJessica Kirson21:01

      I can't.

   8. JRJoe Rogan21:01

      No cigarettes?

   9. JKJessica Kirson21:01

      Oh, no, I do coffee.

   10. JRJoe Rogan21:03

       Co- oh, that's right.

   11. JKJessica Kirson21:03

       A ton of coffee.

   12. JRJoe Rogan21:05

       You got coffee.

   13. JKJessica Kirson21:05

       But-

   14. JRJoe Rogan21:05

       No cigarettes?

   15. JKJessica Kirson21:05

       No. No. I, I, I can do a little bit of drugs. I-

   16. JRJoe Rogan21:10

       Did you ever smoke cigarettes?

   17. JKJessica Kirson21:11

       ... I'm an animal. Yes.

   18. JRJoe Rogan21:12

       You did?

   19. JKJessica Kirson21:12

       A lot.

   20. JRJoe Rogan21:13

       What was harder to kick, drugs or cigarettes?

   21. JKJessica Kirson21:15

       Cigarettes was fucking hard.

   22. JRJoe Rogan21:17

       Really?

   23. JKJessica Kirson21:18

       Um, it was very hard for me to stop smoking cigarettes when I stopped. Like, I sobbed.

   24. JRJoe Rogan21:24

       Really?

   25. JKJessica Kirson21:24

       It's very en- it's an oral thing. It's like a... It was such a habit.

   26. JRJoe Rogan21:28

       Yeah.

   27. JKJessica Kirson21:29

       But I'd say s- like, quitting s- quitting smoke... Uh, quitting drugs was really tough. But I've, I've... You know, it's not like I quit once and stopped. Like, it wasn't... I, I've relapsed-

   28. JRJoe Rogan21:39

       Right.

   29. JKJessica Kirson21:39

       ... at certain points, so it's not-

   30. JRJoe Rogan21:41

       What was your favorite drug?
6. 29:21 – 33:21

   Pratfalls, pain, and comedy obsession: Chevy Chase, Farley, and “going hard for laughs”

   1. JRJoe Rogan29:21

      You know, the falling down thing-

   2. JKJessica Kirson29:23

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan29:23

      ... I always, uh, I have this theory about Chevy Chase.

   4. JKJessica Kirson29:27

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan29:27

      'Cause, like, everybody hates Chevy Chase. He's supposed to be an asshole-

   6. JKJessica Kirson29:29

      W- I know.

   7. JRJoe Rogan29:30

      ... and real ag-

   8. JKJessica Kirson29:30

      I hear that a lot.

   9. JRJoe Rogan29:31

      I think he's in pain all the time.

   10. JKJessica Kirson29:33

       Really?

   11. JRJoe Rogan29:33

       Yeah. Uh, yeah, I do, and I think he probably gave himself brain damage. If you watch all of those old SNLs-

   12. JKJessica Kirson29:40

       Mm-hmm.

   13. JRJoe Rogan29:40

       ... and you watch a- all the Fletch movies-

   14. JKJessica Kirson29:42

       Mm-hmm.

   15. JRJoe Rogan29:43

       ... how many times did that guy fall down? Like, all those pratfalls?

   16. JKJessica Kirson29:46

       Oh, yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan29:47

       Those are bad. Like, some of 'em are really bad.

   18. JKJessica Kirson29:50

       Look at him. (laughs)

   19. JRJoe Rogan29:52

       Like, like, no bullshit. Like, the-

   20. JKJessica Kirson29:55

       You're right.

   21. JRJoe Rogan29:55

       ... guy fell constantly.

   22. JKJessica Kirson29:58

       Oh, my God.

   23. JRJoe Rogan29:58

       Look, I mean, there's a whole thing... Like-

   24. JKJessica Kirson30:00

       (laughs)

   25. JRJoe Rogan30:01

       ... dude, let me tell you something. If you do this over and over and over again, you're gonna get hurt. There's no doubt about it.

   26. JKJessica Kirson30:08

       You know, you're right.

   27. JRJoe Rogan30:09

       And he's not, like, an athlete, right? So he's falling. He's just trying to make it the most spectacular fall. Look, look how he's falling. Look how he fell off the fucking stairs like that. Watch this. That is bad.And dude, this happened fucking hundreds of times. He did this on stage, on television, in movies. I mean, th- you're not, he's not faking these falls. I mean, he's trying to protect himself a little bit from falling down, but he's fucking falling and he's falling a lot. And so, when you do this, and you do this dozens of times, 100 times, who knows?

   28. JKJessica Kirson30:47

       (laughs)

   29. JRJoe Rogan30:47

       I guarantee you he got injured. I guarantee you his back's fucked up and most likely his head's fucked up.

   30. JKJessica Kirson30:53

       You know, you're not lying at all because you... When you're like that, like me, you're gonna do whatever you have to do to get a laugh-
7. 33:21 – 44:23

   Sex slang debates to teen culture: bases, porn influence, and “scientists studying anal”

   1. JKJessica Kirson33:21

      What's that new shit about Bill Murray, that he... Did he just hit on someone or something?

   2. JRJoe Rogan33:25

      I do not know what he did.

   3. JKJessica Kirson33:26

      (laughs) I don't either.

   4. JRJoe Rogan33:27

      I know I saw the thing that they shut down production. And the fucked up thing is, it's like a Aziz's movie, so Aziz is making-

   5. JKJessica Kirson33:33

      I know.

   6. JRJoe Rogan33:33

      So Aziz is like, "Yikes!"

   7. JKJessica Kirson33:34

      (laughs)

   8. JRJoe Rogan33:34

      "Shut the movie down." (laughs) I mean, Aziz went down for a consensual sexual encounter with a girl who felt like he was too pushy.

   9. JKJessica Kirson33:43

      Right. It was something about... Wasn't it about eating someone out? (laughs) I love saying that.

   10. JRJoe Rogan33:47

       He ate her out, she blew him-

   11. JKJessica Kirson33:48

       But eat- eating out.

   12. JRJoe Rogan33:49

       ... and then he wanted to keep going.

   13. JKJessica Kirson33:49

       Do you know how old of a term that is?

   14. JRJoe Rogan33:51

       Eating out?

   15. JKJessica Kirson33:51

       I love saying eating out because that's from, like, when I was younger.

   16. JRJoe Rogan33:54

       Is there a new term?

   17. JKJessica Kirson33:54

       Did you eat her out? Yeah, going down on, isn't it like-

   18. JRJoe Rogan33:57

       Going down has been forever.

   19. JKJessica Kirson33:58

       I love going to third. Third now is-

   20. JRJoe Rogan34:01

       (laughs) Third is fingering, isn't it?

   21. JKJessica Kirson34:03

       No.

   22. JRJoe Rogan34:03

       You don't go to third with your face.

   23. JKJessica Kirson34:04

       No, I think it... No, third is-

   24. JRJoe Rogan34:05

       You slide in face first.

   25. JKJessica Kirson34:07

       No, wait a second. This is gonna... People are gonna talk about this from the podcast.

   26. JRJoe Rogan34:10

       Second is breasts.

   27. JKJessica Kirson34:11

       Yeah, third is-

   28. JRJoe Rogan34:12

       First is making out, kissing.

   29. JKJessica Kirson34:13

       Third is eating out, isn't it?

   30. JRJoe Rogan34:15

       No.
8. 44:23 – 47:08

   Weight loss, food addiction, and fat activism: “it wasn’t okay how fat I was”

   1. JKJessica Kirson44:23

      Do you do cheeses and stuff?

   2. JRJoe Rogan44:24

      Yeah, I like cheese.

   3. JKJessica Kirson44:25

      'Cause I eat very healthy. I mean, I've lost a shitload of weight.

   4. JRJoe Rogan44:27

      Yeah, you look great.

   5. JKJessica Kirson44:28

      Thank you.

   6. JRJoe Rogan44:29

      How much have you lost since I first met you?

   7. JKJessica Kirson44:31

      Oh, my God. I mean, I've lost, altogether, you're not gonna believe this, but about 150 pounds.

   8. JRJoe Rogan44:36

      That's incredible.

   9. JKJessica Kirson44:37

      It's incredible. But I-

   10. JRJoe Rogan44:38

       I believe it.

   11. JKJessica Kirson44:38

       ... I eat like the way you eat, but I don't eat sugar and white flour and s- but I eat, like, brown rice or sweet potato a little bit. Not a ton.

   12. JRJoe Rogan44:45

       Do you know Laura Bites?

   13. JKJessica Kirson44:46

       Yes.

   14. JRJoe Rogan44:47

       Laura looks fucking amazing.

   15. JKJessica Kirson44:49

       I know.

   16. JRJoe Rogan44:49

       And she, when I met her, she was big.

   17. JKJessica Kirson44:52

       Mm-hmm.

   18. JRJoe Rogan44:52

       And, and she dec- decided over COVID, she's like, "Hey, I realize, like, fucking fat people are dying of this shit."

   19. JKJessica Kirson44:58

       That's what I-

   20. JRJoe Rogan44:59

       That's like what she said.

   21. JKJessica Kirson45:00

       ... yeah, me too. Yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan45:00

       Like, "I'm gonna lose weight."

   23. JKJessica Kirson45:01

       Yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan45:01

       And so she got super dedicated, but she's so brave. Like, she posts photos of herself, like, before and after and puts it on Instagram. Like, sh-

   25. JKJessica Kirson45:09

       Mm-hmm.

   26. JRJoe Rogan45:09

       ... shows, like, her at her worst and shows how she looks now, you know?

   27. JKJessica Kirson45:14

       Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan45:14

       And she, she fucking, she just wants to let everybody know, "Hey, I did it. You can do it too."

   29. JKJessica Kirson45:18

       Mm-hmm.

   30. JRJoe Rogan45:18

       "It's totally possible. I never thought like that. I never thought I was ever gonna be lean."
9. 47:08 – 49:53

   Yeast infections to gut biome: probiotics, candida, and Joe’s meat-and-fruit diet

   1. JKJessica Kirson47:09

   2. JRJoe Rogan47:09

      (laughs)

   3. NANarrator47:10

      (laughs)

   4. JRJoe Rogan47:11

      (laughs)

   5. JKJessica Kirson47:11

      I should've gotten help. Someone should've-

   6. NANarrator47:13

      (laughs)

   7. JRJoe Rogan47:13

      (laughs)

   8. JKJessica Kirson47:13

      Someone should've gotten a net-

   9. NANarrator47:15

      (laughs)

   10. JKJessica Kirson47:16

       ... and fucking-

   11. NANarrator47:17

       Yeah.

   12. JKJessica Kirson47:17

       ... put me in a cage and helped me.

   13. NANarrator47:20

       (laughs)

   14. JKJessica Kirson47:21

       So... (laughs)

   15. JRJoe Rogan47:25

       So...

   16. NANarrator47:25

       (laughs) But there's a movement now.

   17. JKJessica Kirson47:26

       Well, I needed to move. I needed a lot of movement. (laughs)

   18. JRJoe Rogan47:30

       Yeah. Oh, that's great.

   19. JKJessica Kirson47:32

       I mean... (laughs)

   20. JRJoe Rogan47:35

       I'm in a group chat and someone, uh, sent me this, th- one of the people in the chat sent me this thing about Lizzo's new show.

   21. JKJessica Kirson47:42

       That's what we talked about.

   22. JRJoe Rogan47:43

       Oh, okay. Li- Lizz-

   23. JKJessica Kirson47:44

       What did your- (laughs)

   24. JRJoe Rogan47:45

       'Cause, like, there's this, like, transgender, uh, person on Lizzo's show and they're all, like, together. They're, they're, they're big girls and that, like, they're doing exercise together and they're, like, 10, 15 seconds in, they're having fucking heart attacks.

   25. JKJessica Kirson47:59

       That's what we talked about. (laughs)

   26. JRJoe Rogan48:00

       You guys talk about Zoom?

   27. JKJessica Kirson48:01

       That's exactly what we talked... He said, "What if someone had a heart attack?"

   28. JRJoe Rogan48:04

       Right. Yeah, it's possible. It's, like, legitimately possible.

   29. JKJessica Kirson48:06

       Yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan48:06

       Like, this idea that that's okay and that's good, that, that's, that's as insane as drunk activists. That it's as insane as someone who's just shit-faced 24 hours a day-
10. 49:53 – 1:09:13

    Predators swallowing prey whole: rats, rabbits, pythons, Komodo dragons, and “Team Mammal”

    1. JRJoe Rogan49:53

       There's a video, I think it's in Italy, a seagull swallows a rat whole.

    2. JKJessica Kirson49:57

       (gasps)

    3. JRJoe Rogan49:57

       And it's not a small rat.

    4. JKJessica Kirson49:58

       Oh, my God.

    5. JRJoe Rogan50:00

       It just picks this thing up, throws its head back, opens up his mouth, and just choke. Watch this. Here it is.

    6. JKJessica Kirson50:05

       Oh, no.

    7. JRJoe Rogan50:06

       Watch this. Look at this.

    8. JKJessica Kirson50:06

       Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

    9. JRJoe Rogan50:09

       Birds don't give a fuck. They don't give a fuck. Watch this again. Look how he picks that right up.

    10. JKJessica Kirson50:14

        Oh, my God.

    11. JRJoe Rogan50:15

        He just swallows the whole thing up. He found a dead rat laying on the street, probably poisoned, and he just swallowed the whole thing. You know, that's a, a real issue with, uh, raptors.

    12. JKJessica Kirson50:26

        (gasps)

    13. JRJoe Rogan50:26

        What is that one?

    14. NANarrator50:27

        Says he's eaten a starfish whole.

    15. JRJoe Rogan50:29

        A starfish?

    16. NANarrator50:29

        There's a few things.

    17. JKJessica Kirson50:30

        Holy shit.

    18. NANarrator50:31

        I've seen one that eats a pigeon whole, too. I didn't click on it, but-

    19. JRJoe Rogan50:32

        Yeah, I've seen the pigeon.

    20. JKJessica Kirson50:33

        But I have a question for you.

    21. JRJoe Rogan50:35

        Yeah?

    22. JKJessica Kirson50:37

        How does it... How does that decompose in that thing's body, in the bird's body? I'm curious.

    23. JRJoe Rogan50:44

        Not good. It's... The bird's gonna die if that rat's poisoned-

    24. JKJessica Kirson50:47

        Wow.

    25. JRJoe Rogan50:47

        ... 'cause then the poison that's in the rat is now in the bird, and it'll eventually go through its digestive tract and into the bloodstream. That's how they... N- There's an issue with owls in the hills.

    26. JKJessica Kirson50:58

        Yeah.

    27. JRJoe Rogan50:58

        Um, because a lot of people are poisoning rats. So they leave rat poison out.

    28. JKJessica Kirson51:02

        Oh, right.

    29. JRJoe Rogan51:02

        And then the rats, the rats get picked off by the owls, and then the owls wind up dying of poison.

    30. JKJessica Kirson51:07

        Oh.
11. 1:09:13 – 1:18:36

    City decline and political theater: California/NYC crime, de Blasio’s arts video, and tribal politics

    1. JRJoe Rogan1:09:13

       But I do know, for me, it tastes better. I like it. It feels better, like, when I eat, when I drink raw milk. And I, I rarely drink raw milk. There was a pro-... People were getting arrested for selling raw milk in California for a while. I don't know.

    2. JKJessica Kirson1:09:24

       Arrested?

    3. JRJoe Rogan1:09:25

       Yeah, I don't know what, what was going on with that. There was, like, arrests and everybody was, like, outraged. Like, how absurd it was that you're arresting people for selling raw milk. Yeah.

    4. JKJessica Kirson1:09:34

       That sounds really crazy.

    5. JRJoe Rogan1:09:37

       Mm-hmm. California's fucking crazy.

    6. JKJessica Kirson1:09:40

       Well, a lot of places are crazy now, yeah.

    7. JRJoe Rogan1:09:41

       California is off the charts right now. They're so crazy.

    8. JKJessica Kirson1:09:45

       I know.

    9. JRJoe Rogan1:09:45

       It's so crazy. It's such a mess.

    10. JKJessica Kirson1:09:48

        I know.

    11. JRJoe Rogan1:09:48

        It's s- just a big homeless encampment.

    12. JKJessica Kirson1:09:51

        It's a what?

    13. JRJoe Rogan1:09:51

        It's a big homeless encampment. I think LA's get... They're gonna abandon LA, just run out, and it's just gonna be filled with tents in 50 years. When you go back to LA you won't even be able to drive 'cause you'll get, run over all the needles. So you're just gonna have to park your car outside and you wear a hazmat suit.

    14. JKJessica Kirson1:10:04

        (laughs) It's like backing up when you go through a, a rental car place.

    15. JRJoe Rogan1:10:06

        Yeah, you wear, like, a bulletproof hazmat suit, and that's gonna be how you journey through LA. And you're just gonna watch people kill each other and, you know...

    16. NANarrator1:10:13

        You can't sell raw milk across state lines in the United States.

    17. JRJoe Rogan1:10:18

        Mm. Okay.

    18. JKJessica Kirson1:10:19

        Wow.

    19. JRJoe Rogan1:10:19

        States may adopt their own laws but I think it's, uh, California. There was a California l... I know I used to buy it at a local health food store, and then something happ... Oh, here it is.

    20. NANarrator1:10:29

        Something happened, yes.

    21. JRJoe Rogan1:10:29

        Following armed raids in 2010 and two arrests in 2011, the founder of the Rawesome Co-op, James Stewart, was again arrested last Thursday by a trio of tough-looking men in street clothes, driving unmarked luxury cars. So imagine armed raids for a guy who's selling milk, 'cause he's selling raw milk.

    22. JKJessica Kirson1:10:54

        I don't know what's going on anywhere.

    23. JRJoe Rogan1:10:57

        (sighs) Well, you do.

    24. JKJessica Kirson1:10:58

        I mean, New York is bad too.

    25. JRJoe Rogan1:11:00

        Oh, for crime?

    26. JKJessica Kirson1:11:00

        I'm not talking about the homeless thing. Yeah, it's really bad for crime.

    27. JRJoe Rogan1:11:02

        Crime's bad, well, when you don't arrest people.

    28. JKJessica Kirson1:11:05

        I know.

    29. JRJoe Rogan1:11:05

        And when you, when they arrest them-

    30. JKJessica Kirson1:11:05

        It's really bad.

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