Joe Rogan Experience #1816 - Gad Saad

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   (drumming) Joe Rogan podcast,…

   1. JRJoe Rogan0:00

      (drumming) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

   2. GSGad Saad0:04

      The Joe Rogan Experience.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music) You look like you've lost a large child from your body.

   4. GSGad Saad0:16

      (laughs) 86 pounds.

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:17

      (whooshing sound) That's right, that's a large child.

   6. GSGad Saad0:20

      Now, I know that you wanna take credit for it because-

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:23

      Fat shaming works.

   8. GSGad Saad0:24

      Exactly.

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:25

      (laughs)

   10. GSGad Saad0:25

       But I can't give you all the credit.

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:26

       No, you-

   12. GSGad Saad0:27

       And, and then-

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:27

       ... you deserve all the credit.

   14. GSGad Saad0:28

       Thank you.

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:29

       I didn't do anything.

   16. GSGad Saad0:30

       So, because-

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:31

       I just was concerned for your well-being, and so I was just saying, if you really are saying that you wanna get healthy, and you really are saying that you wanna play soccer and do all these things again, like you gotta change your diet.

   18. GSGad Saad0:42

       A friend has to be brutally honest with you.

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:45

       Yeah, well, that's a hard one. That's a hard one because nobody wants to hear they're gaining weight-

   20. GSGad Saad0:49

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:49

       ... or they've gained weight or that they have to make radical changes to their life.

   22. GSGad Saad0:53

       I'm actually at the lowest weight since, I think, '88.

   23. JRJoe Rogan0:57

       That's incredible.

   24. GSGad Saad0:57

       I'm size waist 33.

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:00

       How much better do you feel?

   26. GSGad Saad1:01

       Phenomenal. Outrageous.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:03

       Isn't it incredible?

   28. GSGad Saad1:03

       It's unbelievable.

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:04

       Like, if they could give you that in a pill, just the feeling, how it feels to be 86 pounds lighter?

   30. GSGad Saad1:09

       Exactly.
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   (laughs) That's right. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan15:00

      Like, I was watching this video today, and this woman was talking about how y- people going on a diet, and she was saying, "You don't even know yourself, but going on a diet, you're being fatphobic."

   2. GSGad Saad15:13

      (laughs) That's right.

   3. JRJoe Rogan15:13

      And let me break this down. And she breaks this down with this, like, pseudo-intellectual nonsense, 'cause I guess she was an educator. And so here you got this sloppy, overweight, lazy educator telling people that it's good to be lazy, because if you're not lazy, and if you try to become healthy, then you're a bigot.

   4. GSGad Saad15:31

      That's right.

   5. JRJoe Rogan15:31

      You're a fatphobe.

   6. GSGad Saad15:33

      Body posi- positivity, right?

   7. JRJoe Rogan15:34

      Yeah. It's nonsense.

   8. GSGad Saad15:35

      Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan15:35

      Body positivity is stupid. We are the only ti- this is the only time in, in this world we're living in in 2022, this era from like, whatever it was, maybe 1970, 1980 on, where poor people are fat.

   10. GSGad Saad15:49

       Right.

   11. JRJoe Rogan15:49

       This is crazy.

   12. GSGad Saad15:50

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan15:51

       Where it's not just wealthy people who are just sitting there getting fed grapes while they're lounging, it's poor people.

   14. GSGad Saad15:58

       (laughs)

   15. JRJoe Rogan15:58

       Everybody's eating bad food.

   16. GSGad Saad15:59

       But, y- you know, so earlier you asked me about, how did I lose all the weight? Well, it's a daily grind to be able to lose it.

   17. JRJoe Rogan16:05

       Mm-hmm.

   18. GSGad Saad16:05

       It takes a lot of discipline. Isn't it easier for me to construct an alternate universe that basically says that Joe Rogan and my physician saying that I'm overweight is going to reduce my longevity? They're just part of the fat complex that are trying to marginalize differently weighted people?

   19. JRJoe Rogan16:24

       Yeah.

   20. GSGad Saad16:24

       And so-

   21. JRJoe Rogan16:25

       Differently weighted?

   22. GSGad Saad16:25

       You like that, huh?

   23. JRJoe Rogan16:26

       (laughs)

   24. GSGad Saad16:26

       Uh, I coined that trademark.

   25. JRJoe Rogan16:28

       (laughs)

   26. GSGad Saad16:28

       Uh, but, but really, it's, it's, it's, from an ego-defensive perspective, it's a lot easier for me to adopt that ideology than to do the daily grind that's going to require for me to autocorrect, and therefore, I buy into fatphobia and I buy into body positivity.

   27. JRJoe Rogan16:45

       Yeah, the daily grind is, it's legitimately hard. But there's support out there. The thing that I would say to people that are on the fence, and it's easy to just decide to be body positive, and it's easy to decide to tell everyone they're, you're beautiful no matter what, and to look at someone who's morbidly b- obese and say, "You're amazing."

   28. GSGad Saad17:04

       Yeah. (laughs)

   29. JRJoe Rogan17:05

       "You're so special. You're incredible, and it doesn't matter. And fuck those people that say you need to lose weight. You just need to be you, and you're just-

   30. GSGad Saad17:12

       Yeah.
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   Sure. …

   1. GSGad Saad30:00

      you're six.

   2. JRJoe Rogan30:01

      Sure.

   3. GSGad Saad30:01

      And there's this quiet guy who's ominous, who comes in, who saves the day.

   4. JRJoe Rogan30:06

      Mm-hmm.

   5. GSGad Saad30:06

      And it, it's playing on all of the evolutionary-based archetypes that we're programmed to respond to.

   6. JRJoe Rogan30:11

      Yeah.

   7. GSGad Saad30:11

      Right? So I'm looking at this guy and saying, "I, I wanna ... I like this guy, I wanna be this guy."

   8. JRJoe Rogan30:16

      (laughs)

   9. GSGad Saad30:16

      And then, throughout his career, you know, as I got older and as he progressed in his career, you know, he's become a great filmmaker. And so, he ... And plus, he's not woke. And so, he just seems like the type of guy ... Obviously, he's now quite elderly and, you know, so on. He'd be the kinda guy that I'm sure-I'm unlikely to meet him and not say, "My God, what a cool guy." He just exudes those qualities, right?

   10. JRJoe Rogan30:40

       He seems very fun.

   11. GSGad Saad30:41

       Yeah.

   12. JRJoe Rogan30:41

       Very interesting. I mean, uh, look, his career has been incredible. Um, he was ... You know, he's doing those Westerns in the 1960s.

   13. GSGad Saad30:50

       K- kind of like maybe the, one of the last old-school movie stars-

   14. JRJoe Rogan30:53

       Mm-hmm.

   15. GSGad Saad30:54

       ... that is still around, right?

   16. JRJoe Rogan30:55

       Well, also old-school movie stars who's still working on a regular basis in his 90s.

   17. GSGad Saad31:00

       It's unbelievable.

   18. JRJoe Rogan31:01

       Yeah. And directing as well as acting.

   19. GSGad Saad31:04

       Here's another, here's another one I would love to have on my show. Uh, I don't quite have your reach, so I, I could only fantasize about some of these guys. Burt Bacharach, do you know who that is?

   20. JRJoe Rogan31:14

       No, I don't.

   21. GSGad Saad31:14

       Burt Bacharach was ... Is arguably the biggest music composer, song, uh, composer of the 20th century, of all... Many of the pop songs that were big hits in the '60s and '70s from The Carpenters, from Dionne Warwick, is this ... I think he's Jewish. This Jewish guy who you would never imagine could produce this kind of soul, if you're going to be stereotypical. He's now into his 90s. Check him out. They are-

   22. JRJoe Rogan31:39

       Burt Bacharach.

   23. GSGad Saad31:39

       Yeah. You know, he sa- he's even sang himself with Barbra Streisand.

   24. JRJoe Rogan31:42

       Oh.

   25. GSGad Saad31:43

       Uh, he just seems like one of those old-school guys who you could sit with, and he's going to tell you stories that are going to blow your mind. So, I'm not really too much into celebrities, but if I had to pick two guys I'd like to sit down with, Clint Eastwood, Burt Bacharach.

   26. JRJoe Rogan31:55

       Well, you have a great podcast. And when you move out of that communist country you're stuck in, maybe-

   27. GSGad Saad31:59

       Oh, from Europe.

   28. JRJoe Rogan32:00

       ... you will be, uh, able to get those people on your show.

   29. GSGad Saad32:03

       Well, aren't you lovely.

   30. JRJoe Rogan32:04

       (laughs)
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   Right. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan45:00

      every fucking planet is round."

   2. GSGad Saad45:02

      Right.

   3. JRJoe Rogan45:02

      "So the likelihood that earth is this weird, flat thing-"

   4. GSGad Saad45:06

      (laughs)

   5. JRJoe Rogan45:06

      "... that's shaped like a Frisbee while everything is round like a ball doesn't make any sense, does it? No. Well, that's what the process of-"

   6. GSGad Saad45:14

      Yeah.

   7. JRJoe Rogan45:14

      "... spreading correct information to counteract disinformation looks like." The problem is, we have these election terms and they're, like, four years, right? And then every four years a new president gets elected. Well, if you could just trick people enough to get someone into office, that person could do a lot of damage.

   8. GSGad Saad45:36

      Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan45:36

      And that's what they're worried about. So unfortunately that, this, this thing, this machine of spreading information and also this process of picking a new person every four years, it gives people this sense of urgency that they have to stop information immediately, right now, which is what led people to m- make sure that the Hunter Biden story, the laptop story, was removed from Twitter.

   10. GSGad Saad46:03

       Right.

   11. JRJoe Rogan46:03

       Which is pure insanity.

   12. GSGad Saad46:05

       It's insane.

   13. JRJoe Rogan46:06

       Pure insanity 'cause it's 100% legitimate story, it's now been substantiated, it's now being openly discussed in The New York Times and The Washington Post and all these other liberal newspapers that wouldn't touch it with a 10-foot pole before the election for fear that Donald Trump was gonna get elected again. So through their own fear of this process of truth, that their truth wasn't gonna be convincing enough-

   14. GSGad Saad46:30

       Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan46:30

       ... they decided to censor fact-

   16. GSGad Saad46:33

       You know.

   17. JRJoe Rogan46:33

       ... and news and real information, and they did it for the good of the people that were too dumb that w- that w- 'cause they're not gonna... Look, those people are not going to vote for Donald Trump.

   18. GSGad Saad46:44

       Right.

   19. JRJoe Rogan46:44

       Just, if, if you look at the hardcore left people in this country, they're not gonna vote for Donald Trump just because Hunter Biden is corrupt-

   20. GSGad Saad46:50

       Right.

   21. JRJoe Rogan46:50

       ... and just because it s- appears that Joe Biden is corrupt as well, and that they, they were getting bribes from Ukraine and he did have a job that he was completely unqualified for and it was paying an exorbitant amount of money and he was smoking crack.

   22. GSGad Saad47:02

       Right. (laughs)

   23. JRJoe Rogan47:03

       And, like, you know...

   24. GSGad Saad47:04

       And was a sex addict.

   25. JRJoe Rogan47:06

       B- Uh, maybe.

   26. GSGad Saad47:08

       (laughs)

   27. JRJoe Rogan47:08

       Maybe, maybe he just likes to party.

   28. GSGad Saad47:09

       Right.

   29. JRJoe Rogan47:09

       I don't know. But the point, the point is this is all real information that was pertinent to our understanding of who Joe Biden is and who his son is and what kind of business dealings were they, were they involved in, and shouldn't this have demanded an examination? But they wanted Trump out so bad they-

   30. GSGad Saad47:26

       Yeah.
5. 1:00:00 – 1:15:00

   Yeah. …

   1. GSGad Saad1:00:00

      Well, what do you think? There's going to be militia roadblocks where they veer the women of color to gang rape centers? Like, what kind of hysterical response is that to ... I mean, you don't like Donald Trump? Fine.

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:00:11

      Yeah.

   3. GSGad Saad1:00:11

      But it's not going to lead to the eradication of professors of color. And so, I have a whole series of clips where I feign hysterical fear, hiding under the desk. The most recent one might have been ... or one of the recent ones ... Uh, I think you'll enjoy this story. So, my wife and I go to a cafe every morning, uh, after a one-hour walk. The barista that was serving him- h- her looked like a transgender person.

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:00:40

      Hmm.

   5. GSGad Saad1:00:40

      So she came to me as we were waiting for our order to be delivered to us.And she said, "You know, I felt quite, uh, I didn't want to make an error in how I was addressing the person because, you know, I didn't know, should I s-" And so I put out a tweet that was meant to be a testimony to how sensitive and kind and empathetic my wife is, that she was very, very concerned to not get the, you know, the address wrong. It was meant to be something in, aligned with the pronoun Taliban, right? But it turns out abo- about 28 million tweet impressions later over two days, all egged by Valerie Bertinelli, that, you know, she, because she, somehow she's an ally to the LGBT community, so she came after me. Uh, anyways, it doesn't matter.

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:01:28

      Valerie Bertinelli, the lady that used to be married to Eddie Van Halen?

   7. GSGad Saad1:01:31

      Exactly. Exactly. Uh, you can probably go find all the tweets. They're still up there. So then-

   8. JRJoe Rogan1:01:37

      So I'm, I'm, uh, I'm a little lost here.

   9. GSGad Saad1:01:39

      Yeah. Go, go, go.

   10. JRJoe Rogan1:01:39

       So what was she upset at?

   11. GSGad Saad1:01:41

       Uh, that she couldn't have said, "Hello. May I have a coffee?" without using pronouns? Is she mentally ill that she doesn't know how to address someone without a pronoun use? But there was ... I explained then what happened. There was a colleague of the barista who, who, my wife turned to, to that colleague to say, because it was the first day that the transgender person was working-

   12. JRJoe Rogan1:02:04

       Okay.

   13. GSGad Saad1:02:04

       ... and was having a hard time with the cash register. So she wanted to say, "Oh, it's only his first day. He'll get the hang of it." So there, there was a need to use a pronoun, right?

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:02:13

       Right.

   15. GSGad Saad1:02:13

       Or it was her first, but she didn't know. So she didn't want to presume that this female presenting person was a her. Maybe that will offend her. She didn't want to use the, uh ... And so it was a very inoffensive-

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:02:26

       Innocent.

   17. GSGad Saad1:02:26

       ... thi- innocent thing.

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:02:27

       Right.

   19. GSGad Saad1:02:27

       And so I tweeted about it as a measure of how lovely my wife is, that she was so concerned. So I mean, literally millions of tweets of hate. Now, of course-

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:02:38

       Wow.

   21. GSGad Saad1:02:38

       ... if I were Drew Brees, I would have gone on the record apologizing for having exhibited patriotism towards the flag, and I didn't know that the US flag hurt some of my colleagues. I'm a honey badger. I don't apologize to anybody, but what I did is I released a satirical Under the Desk clip where I said that all of the stuff that I faced in the Lebanese Civil War from Islamic extremists is nothing as scary as the pronoun Taliban. That got them more angry, and I just kept egging them on and on till they went away. So lesson is, les-

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:03:15

       (laughs)

   23. GSGad Saad1:03:15

       Life lesson, never apologize to the assholes.

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:03:19

       But tha- that seems like you have a lot of free time. You're, you're willing to engage with those people all day long like that? (laughs)

   25. GSGad Saad1:03:24

       You know what it is? It's a pressure valve release for me.

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:03:27

       Oh, yeah?

   27. GSGad Saad1:03:27

       It, it, it's ... I, I always do these things with a sardonic smile and a twinkle in my eyes. I just enjoy ... Now, sometimes I'm too busy and I don't do it. Plus I'm combative in, in that, you know, if you attack me, I'm going to attack you and anybody who's gone, who's ever known you.

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:03:43

       Right.

   29. GSGad Saad1:03:43

       It's just part of my temperament. So it's not a question of I have free time or not. It's just I can't walk away from a fight.

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:03:50

       Well, th- I don't know if that's healthy either.
6. 1:15:00 – 1:15:15

   (laughs) …

   1. GSGad Saad1:15:00

      this, uh, IQ test, you basically score, uh, lower than a newborn pigeon. Oh, okay, nevermind."

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:15:06

      (laughs)

   3. GSGad Saad1:15:07

      "Let's, let's move onto the math test," right? So I'm giving you false feedback, either glowing or not, and then I'm seeing how it affects your performance on some subsequent task.

Episode duration: 3:11:47