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Joe Rogan Experience #1817 - Hotep Jesus

Bryan "Hotep Jesus" Sharpe is a public speaker, tech advisor, author, and one of the hosts of the "Hoteps BEEN Told You" podcast. His latest book is "The Patriot Report: Unmasking the Conspiracy of Money and War." http://www.bryansharpe.co/

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Jun 27, 20243h 13mWatch on YouTube ↗

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  1. 0:00 – 2:10

    Intro

    1. NA

      (drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience.

    2. JR

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music)

    3. NA

      Let's see. Are we rolling?

    4. HS

      Oh, we're up and rolling.

    5. NA

      Excellent.

    6. HS

      Nice, nice.

    7. JR

      Here's a shout-out to my friend Meghan for giving me this nasty-ass fucking liquor. Uh, w- pwooh. Estancia, straight outta Mexico.

    8. HS

      It's, you can, like, taste the plants in it.

    9. JR

      Woo. Yeah, you can. I don't know what plants they're using but whatever they are, they should burn them. (laughs)

    10. HS

      (laughs)

    11. JR

      That shit's so nasty. It's so strong. She loves this shit. She drinks it all the time. I don't know... I wonder if she's getting back on Twitter? Uh, Meghan Murphy got banned from Twitter because she said, "A man is never a woman."

    12. HS

      Mmm.

    13. JR

      Banned for life.

    14. HS

      Mmm, perma-ban.

    15. JR

      Perma-ban. That's it.

    16. HS

      You can't come after those people.

    17. JR

      You can't talk crazy. You can't say... (laughs)

    18. HS

      It's, it's a couple of... You can talk crazy, uh, but it's a couple... I would say once you start dealing with the rainbow-

    19. JR

      Yes.

    20. HS

      ... you done crossed the line.

    21. JR

      Well, you can, you can talk crazy but you can say things like, uh, if, uh, y- go out in front of the Supreme Court judge's house, burn their shit.

    22. HS

      Mmm.

    23. JR

      If they leave the house, don't let them sleep. You could say crazy shit like that.

    24. HS

      Absolutely.

    25. JR

      You could say that. Like, they're doing that now.

    26. HS

      Yeah.

    27. JR

      And no one's getting in trouble for that.

    28. HS

      Lori Lightfoot just, uh, said a call to arms.

    29. JR

      Call to arms. Call to arms. Like, holy shit, bitch. The fuck are you saying?

    30. HS

      What are you saying?

  2. 2:10 – 3:15

    Dark Times

    1. JR

    2. HS

      I have... It is. We are in some of the darkest times, man. Um-

    3. JR

      Strange, right?

    4. HS

      Yeah. I haven't looked into the leaks. I haven't, um, really cared to. I usually just wait for somebody like Jamie to be like, "Yeah, it's real." All right, cool.

    5. JR

      Yeah, exactly.

    6. HS

      You know, I'm too busy doing other things. But the Roe V. Wade has been, um, a very interesting, uh, conversation. I've been following it a little bit. Covered it on my YouTube channel.

    7. JR

      Yeah.

    8. HS

      Yeah. You know, it's kinda just sick though, right? Like, you got people saying that, like, the right is bad and all this other stuff, but they're advocating for the death of babies. It's just like-

    9. JR

      Yeah, it's a weird...

    10. HS

      (laughs)

    11. JR

      It's like we're calling it a woman's right to choose, and it is a woman's right to choose, right? It is a woman's right to choose whether or not she has an abortion.

    12. HS

      Mm-hmm.

    13. JR

      And, but then, like, w- w- h- w- how long into the term are you cool with it?

    14. HS

      Right.

    15. JR

      That's where it gets weird.

    16. HS

      Yes.

    17. JR

      'Cause, like, nobody wants to talk about that. Like, I'm, like, if you, it's a cluster of cells and you take a Plan B and it's gone, everybody's pretty cool with it.

    18. HS

      Yeah.

    19. JR

      But you get to, like, five months-

    20. HS

      Yeah. It's moving around and

  3. 3:15 – 4:15

    Abortion

    1. HS

      stuff.

    2. JR

      It's got hands.

    3. HS

      It, it's... You know, that's been one of the hardest things for me to wrap my mind around, right? Like, so it's a question I ask and I'll ask you, right? Let's say you're governor of Texas or whatever, right, and a woman wants a late-term abortion, okay?

    4. JR

      Yeah.

    5. HS

      Are you going to incarcerate or charge her, charge the doctor, or allow them to just do what they want and be free? What would Joe Rogan do?

    6. JR

      Joe Rogan does not wanna be governor, first of all.

    7. HS

      (laughs)

    8. JR

      'Cause Joe Rogan does not want those kind of responsibilities.

    9. HS

      Right.

    10. JR

      I think that's a k- fucking super complicated issue, and-

    11. HS

      Right.

    12. JR

      ... it, I mean, h- you know, someone said to, someone said this to me the other night, one of my friends, he was like, uh, "You," they were, they were talking about, um, abortion and cases of rape.

    13. HS

      Mm-hmm.

    14. JR

      And he goes, "Well, if your father's a piece of shit, does that mean that you should die?" It's like the, the child did not ask-

    15. HS

      Mm. Ask, yeah.

    16. JR

      ... for his father to be a piece of shit.

    17. HS

      Right.

    18. JR

      What do you, what happens to the kid then?

    19. HS

      Yeah.

  4. 4:15 – 6:31

    Late Term Abortion

    1. HS

      It, it's, it's very hard. Like, I can't, I can't come to a conclusion on it, right? So I think, uh, to answer that question, I'm saying if she wants to have a late-term abortion, she should go ahead and do it, right? That's my stance. Mostly because I lean more on the anarchist side of things.

    2. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    3. HS

      Um, also because I study history, right? So you think about, like, Spartans, right? Spartans, if a child came out and it had a defect-

    4. JR

      They just take it to the woods.

    5. HS

      Yeah, they take it to the woods and tossed it or toss off-

    6. JR

      Yeah.

    7. HS

      ... you know what I mean? And I'm thinking to myself, like, "This is a form of eugenics. This is a form of, like, cleansing your race, whatever, whatever." And, um, this is gonna be quite controversial, but I'm a fan of it. (laughs)

    8. JR

      (laughs)

    9. HS

      Well, it's, it's, uh, I don't know if I'm allowed to say that. But we are human beings and we are here to preserve life, and we are here to preserve life for our tribe and for our people. And it's like sometimes you have to make decisions that are long-term, right, for your people, to make sure your people survive. So I'm like, "Do we want another blue-haired liberal running around?" (laughs)

    10. JR

      (laughs)

    11. HS

      Like, go ahead, hit the button on that ..........................

    12. JR

      But the thing about blue-haired liberals is sometimes they get older and then they, they have children of their own-

    13. HS

      Yeah.

    14. JR

      ... and then they get mortgages and they have jobs-

    15. HS

      Right.

    16. JR

      ... and then they start understanding the tax system, they understand where money goes, and they start getting red-pilled, and then they start becoming more conservative and more pragmatic and they change.

    17. HS

      This is true.

    18. JR

      You know?

    19. HS

      This is true.

    20. JR

      Um, my friend Bridget Phetasy, she told me that when she was in her 20s, she was like AOC. She goes, "I was, like, a full-on lefty, progressive, like, all the way."

    21. HS

      Mm-hmm.

    22. JR

      And now she's, I mean, I don't know where she would...... categorize herself. I'd say she's a centrist.

    23. HS

      Mm.

    24. JR

      But if you're a centrist, to people on the left, you're Hitler. (laughs)

    25. HS

      Yeah, pretty much. Yeah.

    26. JR

      If you're a centrist, you're alt-right, you know?

    27. HS

      Yeah. I mean, the left has gone so far left that the center is now, like, right, right?

    28. JR

      It's... Well, you saw that m-... that, uh, meme that Elon Musk posted? He posted this meme, like, where he is, where the right is-

    29. HS

      Oh, yeah, yeah.

    30. JR

      ... and where the center is, and that the left keeps moving further and further away. And now it looks like he's the right 'cause they keep moving where the center is.

  5. 6:31 – 8:20

    Politics as a Sphere

    1. JR

    2. HS

      Um, but I, I, I actually don't believe that there is a left or a right.

    3. JR

      Hmm.

    4. HS

      Um, I view politics as a sphere, right? And, um, at the, at the core of this sphere, right, is, um, no state, no government, right? And the further you get away from that is more government you're advocating for, right? So, there are times and places where the right advocates for state interference and the left advocates for state interference. (clears throat) So it's like a measure of how much do you want the state involved in your life and when and where, 'cause everybody chooses a place. Like, you know, the right is like, "Yeah, ban abortions," right? And it's just like, okay, so you're partly a statist.

    5. JR

      Right.

    6. HS

      You know what I mean?

    7. JR

      Yeah.

    8. HS

      And then the left wants, like, welfare, blah, blah, blah. Okay, so that's where they want status. So it's just like, what degree of state do you want involved in your life? And then, how much of it and in when and where, right? So it's more of a sphere than a left or right thing.

    9. JR

      Hmm.

    10. HS

      There really is no left or right.

    11. JR

      That's, uh, a good way of putting it 'cause that is true, that there are times on both sides from both parties who want the state to step in and take care of business.

    12. HS

      Mm-hmm.

    13. JR

      And, uh, you know, I'm, I'm more of an issues person. I used to think of myself as, like, left-wing. But as time goes on, I think I'm more... It's like, there's a lot of things on the left I don't agree with-

    14. HS

      Mm-hmm.

    15. JR

      ... but most things I do. But, uh, it's issue to issue. And the problem is-

    16. HS

      Right.

    17. JR

      ... people subscribe to all of the things that their tribe subscribes to.

    18. HS

      Bingo.

    19. JR

      So if their tribe is, like, pro-Second Amendment or pro-woman's-right-to-choose or w-... pro-illegal immigration, like, whatever it is-

    20. HS

      Yeah.

    21. JR

      ... if your side says that, you start chirping, "Bup, bup, bup." You start just saying exactly what your tribe wants.

    22. HS

      Mm-hmm.

    23. JR

      That's, that's a problem.

    24. HS

      That's the grift.

    25. JR

      Yeah, that's the grift.

    26. HS

      That's the grift.

    27. JR

      That's the grift.

    28. HS

      Right? So,

  6. 8:20 – 11:02

    The Rise of the Grifter Class

    1. HS

      um, and that's, that's what has become the... One of the biggest problems, I think, is, uh, the rise of the g- grifter class, right, and the, and the griftconomy. And, um, basically what happened was at some point, in order for people to take you serious, you had to have a certain amount of education on a matter, some sort of, uh, grasp of the topic, politics. You had to be smart, right? Now it's just like all you have to do is know the talking points. And you can get a huge following and become an influencer and influence people's decisions and get hired by politicians and people, da-da-da-da-da.

    2. JR

      Yeah.

    3. HS

      So, you know, uh, before it was like the politicians were the grifter class, or, you know, the political... I'm, I'm sorry, the media, right? Now because of social media, you have just any old Joe, no pun intended, can pop up and be a, a, a, a-

    4. JR

      An influencer.

    5. HS

      An authority-

    6. JR

      Yeah.

    7. HS

      ... an authority on, on, on, on America and society, right? But again, uh, this is.... So this is the problem with the right. The problem with the right is they're being misled because they've dumbed themselves down to a few talking points. It's like three talking points, four talk-... whatever it is. So they've dumbed themselves down and allowed them be led by people who have no educational background, and I don't mean traditional. I'm just saying just haven't really done the studies on history, don't really know... don't know much. But they've, they've dumbed themselves down to, like, three points. And it's just like life is-

    8. JR

      Like, what are those points? Like-

    9. HS

      Uh, you know.

    10. JR

      ... pro-life?

    11. HS

      Yeah, pro-life, free speech-

    12. JR

      Pro-First Amendment.

    13. HS

      ... and, and, and Second Amendment.

    14. JR

      And the First Amendment thing is really because of what's happening to conservatives on social media.

    15. HS

      Right.

    16. JR

      Like, you would always think in the past of liberals as being, like, pro-First Amendment, like the ACLU-

    17. HS

      Hmm.

    18. JR

      ... supporting Nazis' right to exist. You know, like, that was back in the day-

    19. HS

      Hmm.

    20. JR

      ... in the early days, like Jewish lawyers.

    21. HS

      Hmm.

    22. JR

      And they were supporting Nazis' rights to protest and exist because they were saying, "Look, free speech is, is an absolute thing." It means you're-

    23. HS

      Yes.

    24. JR

      You want free speech for people who you absolutely disagree with, who you don't like.

    25. HS

      Right.

    26. JR

      You disagree with them, but you think they should have free speech.

    27. HS

      Yes.

    28. JR

      Which leads us to this Trump thing, because, uh, Elon Musk is talking about getting Trump back on Twitter. He's like-

    29. HS

      Is he?

    30. JR

      Yeah, he said he should absolutely be allowed back on Twitter.

  7. 11:02 – 14:38

    Free Speech

    1. HS

      that's beautiful. Um, my thing is, um, you know, when people talk about free speech, usually they're referring to the Constitution, right? And remind me to tell you how I've rewritten the Constitution. Um-

    2. JR

      You've rewritten it?

    3. HS

      Yeah, I rewrote the Constitution.

    4. JR

      Okay (laughs) .

    5. HS

      Yeah.

    6. JR

      We'll get to that (laughs) .

    7. HS

      (laughs) We're gonna get into that. Um, but free speech, right? Okay, we understand that there's free speech that is protected by the government.

    8. JR

      Right.

    9. HS

      That don't matter. The speech that's... that... The reason why speech isn't free is because of your cohort, your friends, your cronies, the left, whoever, whoever. These are the people that are destroying free speech. S- free speech ain't free. It's gonna come at a cost, right? So for example, like, people pop up with, like, these, uh, free speech social media platforms, right? And it's just like-

    10. JR

      Right.

    11. HS

      ... it's technically not a free speech social media platform because if I go on that platform and I say something crazy, somebody's still going to pick that up and get me fired from my job.... there's still gonna be consequences no matter where I go on the internet. People can still see what I say.

    12. JR

      Yeah, but free speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences. It just means you have the ability to express yourself. That's what-

    13. HS

      Correct.

    14. JR

      ... free speech is.

    15. HS

      Correct.

    16. JR

      The thing is, like, what should your boss be able to fire you for?

    17. HS

      Mm.

    18. JR

      You know? Like, that's where it gets slippery, because there's certain things that people can say, like, like, a m- an example, like, what if you said, "I don't think January 6th was one of the worst things that ever happened to America. I think it was a bunch of fucking morons-"

    19. HS

      Uh-huh.

    20. JR

      "... who believed in QAnon, who rushed to Capitol and took selfies."

    21. HS

      Yeah.

    22. JR

      "And is largely idiots with a few dangerous people mixed in with them."

    23. HS

      Yeah.

    24. JR

      You get fired for that.

    25. HS

      Wow.

    26. JR

      You could get fired. You're, you, if you worked for some-

    27. HS

      Right.

    28. JR

      ... super liberal tech company.

    29. HS

      Yeah.

    30. JR

      They would go, "You do not align with the values of our company." And you're like, "But I'm just saying, this is my opinion."

  8. 14:38 – 17:59

    The White Man

    1. HS

      You know, like, you know, like, I'm on my, you know, I'm on my channel, I, I always talk about, like, I'm looking for the day for the white man to get on his horse, grab his musket, and just 19s bring us back, give us some freedom again, right? Like, where's that white man? Like, it seems like we've been neutered, right? And it's just like, I know, as a Black man, that if the white man ain't free, I'm definitely not free.

    2. JR

      But what, what is, what are they not free from? I mean, what they were saying is that the election was stolen. That's what they were saying.

    3. HS

      Yeah, but-

    4. JR

      Right? That was the whole call to arms from, not call to arms, but, you know.

    5. HS

      Right, call to action.

    6. JR

      That's what Trump says.

    7. HS

      Yeah.

    8. JR

      Yeah. Trump was like, "You know, you have to make a strong presence," and ...

    9. HS

      Yeah. But there's a whole lot of things wrong with the state and how the federal government is playing Americans, right?

    10. JR

      For sure.

    11. HS

      From monetary all the way down, right? So it's a whole bunch of different things. But, like, the media is saying, like, you know, "This guy's a white supremacist," or, "That guy's a white nationalist," and white nationalism is becoming a big problem in this country. And it's just like, "Wait, when, where?" Like, "Stop it. You're lying." You know?

    12. JR

      When Biden said that, he said it was the biggest problem our country faces-

    13. HS

      Right.

    14. JR

      ... bigger than terrorism. Like ...

    15. HS

      Yeah, he said bigger than terror- terrorism, right.

    16. JR

      And everybody just let him. They just let him say that.

    17. HS

      Yeah, so, like, blatant lies. So I'm just like, like, like, like ... So when I saw January 6th, I covered the whole thing live. We had, uh, Mukhtar on the ground, and I was like, "Yo, this is great. Let's go."

    18. JR

      You had someone on the ground?

    19. HS

      Yeah, we had, uh, Mukhtar was on the ground, yeah.

    20. JR

      Oh, that's hilarious.

    21. HS

      And, and we, we had him, um, call in live, and we covered it.

    22. JR

      (laughs)

    23. HS

      It was great. I was a big fan of it.

    24. JR

      (laughs)

    25. HS

      Was there a lot of ... (laughs) I told ... Sorry, y'all.

    26. JR

      (laughs)

    27. HS

      I, I was like, "Yo, this is like a beautiful moment in history." I thought it was one of the greatest moments in, in, in all of American history, man.

    28. JR

      That's so ridiculous.

    29. HS

      To me, personally, because I'm just like, "Yeah, get mad." You know? Like, that's what I wanted to see. Now, storming the Capitol and all that stuff, like, I don't agree with that. And some of it was stupid.

    30. JR

      You just agreed with protesting, going there, not storming the Capitol.

  9. 17:59 – 20:02

    Trump as a Hero

    1. HS

      looking for a hero. Um-

    2. JR

      Yeah.

    3. HS

      ... you know, uh, people are looking at Trump f- as a hero. And, um, I like Trump, big fan of Trump, you know. If he ran again, I'm definitely advocating for him, you know. I don't care what anybody says. Um-... but, um, I think people have to just come back to just, you know, like, what are you doing for yourself? What are you doing for your family? Right? Like, like, another big problem with the, with the conservative right, or whatever you want to call it... They're in reactionary mode, right? Like, like, they log on to find out what the Left is doing today-

    4. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    5. HS

      ... right? So, which means the Left is basically leading the way, right? And the Left is controlling the battlefield. And it's just like, why don't we just come online and be like, "Yo, today we're celebrating families," right? Like, today's w- today's, like, heterosexual day, right?

    6. JR

      (laughs)

    7. HS

      (laughs)

    8. JR

      Be proactive.

    9. HS

      Be proactive.

    10. JR

      Yeah.

    11. HS

      Right? And I think everything's just been reactive, and that kind of, like, gives the Left, uh, you know, uh, control over the whole situation.

    12. JR

      Well, I think most conservatives feel like there's very little representation for conservatives online.

    13. HS

      Yes.

    14. JR

      There's, there's only Fox News, and when, you know, they put, like, you know, Tucker Carlson clips, like, that... Or, you know, Australia, they got that Sky News, and-

    15. HS

      Right.

    16. JR

      Is that OAN network? Is that still around? They got kicked off of, uh, DirecTV, right?

    17. HS

      Did they?

    18. JR

      Yeah.

    19. HS

      Dang.

    20. JR

      Something happened. They, they... I be- I believe they got kicked off of, uh... It was either DirecTV or one of the cable networks, one of the big cable networks.

    21. HS

      I think they're talking about the Jebbie.

    22. JR

      It could be about that. I think they just decided not to renew their, their, their-

    23. HS

      Oh, contract.

    24. JR

      ... contract, but guarantee that it's about the influence that they have, 'cause they're pretty extreme.

    25. HS

      Mm.

    26. JR

      You know? There's no... But when you look at the amount of people that are on the Left that are in the media, like, the Left-influenced media is crazy. It's like-

    27. HS

      Ridiculous.

    28. JR

      ... CNN, NBC, ABC, CBS. Uh, you can keep going down the line. MSNBC. Y- you just keep going and going and going and going and going. It's, it's everything. L- literally everything.

    29. HS

      It broke my heart, man.

  10. 20:02 – 21:32

    Black Media

    1. HS

      Um, you know, being a young Black kid, my mom collecting Ebony magazines, Jet magazines. You know, when I'm young and I'm like, "One day, I'm gonna be on Ebony. One day, I'm gonna be on Jet or Black Enterprise magazine." And then my views are forming, and then I'm like, "Wait, hold on. I'm completely blackballed."

    2. JR

      (laughs)

    3. HS

      "I'll never be on Ebony magazine."

    4. JR

      You're gonna be on Fox News. (laughs)

    5. HS

      (laughs) I'm sn- ending up on Fox News.

    6. JR

      You're gonna be on Tucker Carlson, n- eh, people are gonna be mad at you.

    7. HS

      (laughs)

    8. JR

      Tucker will have you on.

    9. HS

      Yeah.

    10. JR

      He might have you on after this.

    11. HS

      Yeah, no, it's just, it's just, uh, it was, like, really, like, sad. It was a sad moment for me, realizing that I may never see Black media.

    12. JR

      Do you think that one of the things that happened during the pandemic was, um, a lot of the mandates-

    13. HS

      Mm-hmm.

    14. JR

      ... pissed off a lot of African Americans because there's a large percentage of African Americans that were not vaccinated.

    15. HS

      Yes.

    16. JR

      And they were not interested in getting vaccinated, and they were locked-

    17. HS

      Right.

    18. JR

      ... like, especially in New York City.

    19. HS

      Yeah.

    20. JR

      Locked out of everything.

    21. HS

      Yeah.

    22. JR

      Just locked out.

    23. HS

      Yeah. It was-

    24. JR

      And that made a lot of people go, "Hey, what, what, what is this?" Like, "What party are we in?"

    25. HS

      Mm.

    26. JR

      'Cause Democrats, for, for the most part, count on African American votes.

    27. HS

      Mm-hmm.

    28. JR

      'Cause they vote, m- majority vote Democrat.

    29. HS

      Mm-hmm.

    30. JR

      But, like, with something like that, that's one of those things that makes people tip.

  11. 21:32 – 24:35

    White Supremacy

    1. HS

      medical apartheid, man.

    2. JR

      Yeah.

    3. HS

      This is, uh, white supremacy, right? It's, it's, like, when we talk about, like, like, white supremacy, so they try to say, like, the Right is the white supremacists. But these people are literally mandating for a medical experimentation for people who have a higher rate of adverse reactions to these medical procedures, right? They're saying no to these procedures. Is it like... It's still, it's still like a form of racism. Like, I hate using that word 'cause it's, like, watered down now.

    4. JR

      It's a form of discrimination.

    5. HS

      It's a form of discrimination.

    6. JR

      But it's not... I don't, I don't think it's racism, but it, it definitely... It impacts one race higher because there's a higher percentage of people that are unvaccinated and, and l- likely distrustful of medical procedures.

    7. HS

      Right. And, and then it's mandated, right? Uh, especially if you work for, like, uh, like my sister, mandated, right? She had to get it, right? Or she gonna lose her job. So, think about all the Black people that work in the medical industry that potentially could lost their job or had to compromise their body cavity, right?

    8. JR

      Yeah.

    9. HS

      The freedom of their, of their choice. My body, my choice. Like, no, it's not. It's, it's your... It's, it's the state's body and the state's choice. You don't get to make that... So, for example, like, when people were celebrating the OSHA, right? OSHA, uh, stance in this, in SCOTUS, right? So yeah, they said publicly, "Private companies can't mandate it." But then they said, "Well, if you work for the government, then it is mandated," right? So, that means all those Black employees that work for the government are now mandated. Well, all, every, all races, obviously. But it's just funny because Black people are the most resistant to this thing as compared to all other races, right? And the Democrats are like, "No, go get it. Go get it."

    10. JR

      Yeah.

    11. HS

      So, it's like, do they really care?

    12. JR

      Well, this my body, my choice is... This is where it's interesting because it's happening right after mandates, and now it's the abortion dis- d- discussion. And it's like, "Well, I thought you said my body, my choice."

    13. HS

      (laughs)

    14. JR

      "What do you... What are you saying?"

    15. HS

      A week later. (laughs)

    16. JR

      Yeah. Not only that, it's not even logical, because it's, it's, it's not your body, your choice even if you've already had COVID, which is really crazy. They want you to get vaccinated even if you've had it, which is unscientific.

    17. HS

      Right.

    18. JR

      It literally doesn't make sense. It doesn't fit with the studies. The studies show that you're far better protected if you've survived COVID-

    19. HS

      Mm.

    20. JR

      ... than even if you get vaccinated. It's far longer protection. It's better protection.

    21. HS

      Mm-hmm.

    22. JR

      And they're still like, "Nope."

    23. HS

      "Nope."

    24. JR

      "Get it." You gotta, you know, line, line these pockets, kid.

    25. HS

      Mm-hmm.

    26. JR

      And that's...... I mean, that's the only... I mean, unless... The only other argument you could say is that, like, we don't know what kind of protection you have from getting COVID because you could have been one of those asymptomatic people-

    27. HS

      Mm-hmm.

    28. JR

      ... and it might not have bestowed significant protection to you.

    29. HS

      Right.

    30. JR

      That would make sense if the COVID vaccine didn't provide only temporary protection anyway.

  12. 24:35 – 26:16

    Death

    1. HS

      It's, it's, um... It's, it's kinda odd, um-

    2. JR

      It's real odd.

    3. HS

      ... you know, times that we're in. The past two years, I had COVID a couple of times, and, um, I watched you and I was like, um, sick, feeling like I'm dying, and I was like, "Yo, I'm about to DM Joe Rogan and see if he can get me some of this monoclo- (laughs)

    4. JR

      (laughs)

    5. HS

      ... nte bodies."

    6. JR

      How bad were you sick?

    7. HS

      I was pretty bad.

    8. JR

      Yeah?

    9. HS

      Yeah. I didn't go to the hospital 'cause that's where they killing people at. (laughs)

    10. JR

      (laughs) Jesus.

    11. HS

      (laughs) Like, it... Uh, you know, like, I don't know how much I'm allowed to say on here, but, um, you know, I was telling people, I'm like, "COVID ain't killing people, hospitals are." Um, for example, when we talk about the, um... What's that machine? Uh, the, the, the-

    12. JR

      Respirator?

    13. HS

      The respirator.

    14. JR

      Yeah.

    15. HS

      Right? Like, the respirator's breathing for you. And, um, if any- anybody's in the, in the medical industry, they know, once you go on that, it's usually just to keep you alive so your family can see you before you pass on, right?

    16. JR

      Yeah. 80% of the people who got on the respirator wound up dying.

    17. HS

      Right. So, what did everybody say at the height of it all? "We need more respirators. Get more respirators out."

    18. JR

      That's what they thought, though. There was... That's a... There's... There was a lot of confusion in the beginning because it was a novel virus and they didn't know what the proper treatment was.

    19. HS

      Mm-hmm.

    20. JR

      I don't know I necessarily think you can blame people for that because that, that's really what they thought. They thought we had to get people respirators, and they thought people were just dying like crazy. As it went on, then they realized, like, "Oh, the respirator may actually be killing people." One of the things it was, um, the respirators were blowing people's lungs out.

    21. HS

      Mm-hmm.

    22. JR

      Yeah.

    23. HS

      Mm-hmm.

    24. JR

      And so, there was, there was multiple problems with that. But that was just because it was the beginning of the pandemic, they didn't know any better.

    25. HS

      I mean, my, my hotep peoples was telling me, as soon

  13. 26:16 – 28:25

    False positives

    1. HS

      as they saw the, as soon as they saw the respirators going out, they like, "Oh, no, this is gonna be bad."

    2. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    3. HS

      Right? Like, I had Dr. Tena Ricks on, and he was... He pointed this stuff out, uh, about, um, the PCR tests.

    4. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    5. HS

      He's like, "Oh, based upon the cycles that you're running this, you're gonna get a bunch of false positives," right?

    6. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    7. HS

      And then they, a year later, what'd they say? A bunch of false positives, right?

    8. JR

      Yeah. Yeah, they-

    9. HS

      So, like-

    10. JR

      ... they changed the cycles.

    11. HS

      So, so, when you, when you, when you, when you say that you have a industry of medical professionals, right? And we're supposed to trust these people. But here I got this young Black kid who's a biochemist, who's telling me on Twitter and all his followers. Little guy, Dr. Ten Ricks. He's nobody. But he knows, you're telling me this group of medical professionals don't know?

    12. JR

      Right.

    13. HS

      And then I got Yehudi Menachem Ra who's telling me the respirators won't work, but this group of people telling me that? They didn't know this was...

    14. JR

      I think there's a lot of people that don't look into things.

    15. HS

      Absolutely.

    16. JR

      They just follow the narrative, they do what the guidelines are-

    17. HS

      Of course.

    18. JR

      ... and then they keep going. Including doctors.

    19. HS

      Including doctors.

    20. JR

      Yeah.

    21. HS

      Including doctors. I think doctors... I think once you go to college, you basically use your brain. (laughs) You, you, you pay to donate your brain to, to, to, you know, the people that run these institutions, and then they zap it.

    22. JR

      Some people don't. Some people come out of there with their own... their critical-

    23. HS

      Some, yeah.

    24. JR

      ... thinking skills intact, and they, they have their own opinions that go... But they'll talk about them in hushed tones and quiet.

    25. HS

      Mm-hmm.

    26. JR

      They'll get, they'll get together and go, "I don't think we should be vaccinating children."

    27. HS

      Mm.

    28. JR

      Just to... There's no e-... They'll look around, like-

    29. HS

      Anybody hear me? Yeah.

    30. JR

      "There's no, there's no real evidence, so why would you... Children seem to be fine."

  14. 28:25 – 30:18

    The Demi

    1. HS

      the, the, here was, here's what was eerie for me. Um, I believe it was, uh, 2019, 2020, right before the, the Demi hit, um, I had Sister Sumaya on my platform, and she was like, "Yo, they're passing legislation in New Jersey to make medical exemption... uh, I'm sorry, religious exemption from vaccination, uh, no longer a thing. They're trying to get rid of it, right? Trying to ban it." This was getting passed in New Jersey legislation, right? Then the Demi hits, and I'm like-

    2. JR

      The Demi? What's the Demi?

    3. HS

      Demi. The pandemic.

    4. JR

      Oh. (laughs)

    5. HS

      (laughs) The pandemic, right? Um, I'm used to censoring myself. Um-

    6. JR

      Why are you s- have to censor yourself?

    7. HS

      Uh, 'cause YouTube algorithms and stuff.

    8. JR

      Oh, yeah. YouTube. I got... I escaped that, that fucking claw just in time.

    9. HS

      Yeah, you did.

    10. JR

      Ah. I just got out.

    11. HS

      I was... Genius move.

    12. JR

      Got out just in time.

    13. HS

      Yeah, you did. Um, yeah, I would've took the deal too, with Spotify.

    14. JR

      You have to.

    15. HS

      Yeah.

    16. JR

      D- yeah, I don't trust them anymore. They, they're just fucking banning people for all kinds of shit.

    17. HS

      Yeah.

    18. JR

      They're banning people for citing legitimate medical studies.

    19. HS

      Right. Well-

    20. JR

      They're deleting their podcasts.

    21. HS

      La- last week, the FDA, um, updated something about, you know, something about the vax or COVID or something, and then, like, Twitter put, like, (laughs) a warning on people that were repeating the FDA.

    22. JR

      Yes, yes.

    23. HS

      That's, like-

    24. JR

      It was the Johnson & Johnson vaccine.

    25. HS

      Yeah, yeah.

    26. JR

      When they pulled the... well, they r-... limited the use of the Johnson & Johnson vaccine-

    27. HS

      Mm-hmm.

    28. JR

      ... to people over 18. They severe-... they tried to limit it because of blood clots.

    29. HS

      Yeah.

    30. JR

      So, they were putting a warning-

  15. 30:18 – 32:39

    Twitter

    1. HS

      banning over there. You know what's funny? With Elon buying Twitter, I'm happy he did. I'm waiting for the, uh... It's... I just think the deal's still gotta be finalized, but, um-

    2. JR

      Yeah.

    3. HS

      Um...Something changed at Twitter.

    4. JR

      Yeah.

    5. HS

      Uh, I think the people that were in charge of shadow banning and censoring must have left or something, or...

    6. JR

      I think that's probably very likely. Either that or they knew that what they were gonna do... Like, if he, they do sell it, it's time to clean house now.

    7. HS

      Oh, and get rid of all the algorithm.

    8. JR

      Did you see the difference in engagement?

    9. HS

      That's what I'm, that's what, exactly what I was about to say.

    10. JR

      Yeah.

    11. HS

      Bro, I'm like, "Wait, I was shadow banned this whole time."

    12. JR

      Yeah.

    13. HS

      Like, my engagement is, like, 10X now.

    14. JR

      I gained 700,000 Twitter followers in two weeks.

    15. HS

      Are you serious?

    16. JR

      Yep.

    17. HS

      Bro. Bro, what were they doing up there?

    18. JR

      The only other option, uh, the other possibility rather, is that those are bots, that I gained a lot of bots.

    19. HS

      Okay. So, yes.

    20. JR

      But goddamn, if that's true, 700,000?

    21. HS

      Yes, there are, there are bots, right? However, um, my YouTube account started growing faster.

    22. JR

      Ooh.

    23. HS

      And that was unusual, right, because I had my YouTube link in my bio, on my Twitter bio. So usually I get a, you know, a trickle in. But as soon as that buy went through, I saw my YouTube subscribers start going up-

    24. JR

      Yeah.

    25. HS

      ... abnormally. And I'm like, "Oh, it's finally getting released. I'm finally getting access to eyes I never had access to."

    26. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    27. HS

      You know what I mean?

    28. JR

      Yes.

    29. HS

      That's wild to me, man. And, you know, like, I... Last time I came on here, I told you, I was like, "Yo, I don't really care about the shadow banning and the censorship. I don't..." Like, whatever, whatever. Twitter wants to do whatever you wanna do. And now I'm like, I still agree with that stance, but I'm like, damn. Like, they've been holding me back.

    30. JR

      They've been holding you back. They've probably been holding a lot of people back.

  16. 32:39 – 35:49

    Ignorance

    1. HS

      who... Well, there's, there's rungs, right? Like, you got the, the ruling class.

    2. JR

      (clears throat)

    3. HS

      And then you have the ignorance underneath them who think they're doing the right thing-

    4. JR

      Yeah.

    5. HS

      ... sometimes, right?

    6. JR

      Yeah. They all think they're doing the right thing.

    7. HS

      Yeah.

    8. JR

      Yeah. They think it's morally wrong to let certain people express themselves because they're, they're worried that gullible people are gonna listen to them-

    9. HS

      Right.

    10. JR

      ... and then join up.

    11. HS

      Yeah.

    12. JR

      But that's just part of life. You have to have better arguments to counteract the bad arguments.

    13. HS

      Mm-hmm.

    14. JR

      You can't just b- ban the bad arguments. If you think they're a bad argument, then step up to the debate stage or to, you know, Twitter or whatever, and come up with a better argument-

    15. HS

      Right.

    16. JR

      ... and let people see how this plays out.

    17. HS

      Yeah. That was my thing. I always said if somebody's not willing to debate, it's usually because they don't believe in whatever they're saying.

    18. JR

      Yeah.

    19. HS

      And that was my thing, like with the whole pandemi-. Like, take your doctors and let's put them on stage with Trump's-

    20. JR

      Yeah.

    21. HS

      ... front l... Whatever they called them, Trump dot first line doctors or the frontline doctors, whatever they... Debate 'em.

    22. JR

      Right.

    23. HS

      Where's the debate?

    24. JR

      Yeah.

    25. HS

      You believe what you say? Where's the debate? And then let the people decide which side I'm gonna choose.

    26. JR

      Yeah.

    27. HS

      We never got that debate. It was never fair to allow people to see both sides of this thing, you know what I mean?

    28. JR

      Exactly. Well, that's when they started coming after me, when I had Robert Malone on and Dr. Peter McCullough.

    29. HS

      Yeah.

    30. JR

      And when they were saying, you know, that these discredited doctors, I go, "Hold on. Th- you can't call that guy discredited."

  17. 35:49 – 37:24

    Baby Formula

    1. HS

      I don't know. I didn't...

    2. JR

      How the fuck do you not have enough baby formula?

    3. HS

      I, I... I'm, I'm happy they don't, first of all. (laughs)

    4. JR

      What?

    5. HS

      'Cause I'm-

    6. JR

      What?

    7. HS

      And I'll tell you why.

    8. JR

      Please do.

    9. HS

      (sighs) Baby formula ain't no good for babies.

    10. JR

      It's not?

    11. HS

      N- not most... Most of 'em are not.

    12. JR

      But some women can't pump. Some women-

    13. HS

      Right, right.

    14. JR

      ... Th- th- right, for whatever reason, they're milk ducks.

    15. HS

      Absolutely. Absolutely. And there's alternative formulas out there. Like, there's really good, um... Some of them are, like, soy based and I'm like, "I don't get your child that," and... But, like, when you talk about... I don't wanna name companies 'cause that could give me legal issues.

    16. JR

      Right.

    17. HS

      But-... the formula that's on the market has a lot of toxic ingredients in it that ain't good for babies, right?

    18. JR

      Like what? What kind of toxic ingredients?

    19. HS

      I don't know. I haven't studied this stuff in years. But let people do their own research, right? Let, let people go and... There's a lot of people that have done this research, right?

    20. JR

      Let's see if we can find it. Let's see, find out what, what's bad about baby formula.

    21. HS

      Pull up the ingredients just on-

    22. JR

      Just Google what's bad about baby formula.

    23. HS

      Okay. You might have to use a-

    24. JR

      It might, might be a thing.

    25. NA

      I second that. Yeah, that's-

    26. HS

      ... an alternative search engine.

    27. JR

      Yeah, that would give you bad blog- What'd you say?

    28. NA

      That would give you bad blog results. Like, that's gonna give you-

    29. JR

      Oh.

    30. NA

      ... goofy shit that people are trying to sell stuff.

  18. 37:24 – 42:22

    Breast Milk

    1. HS

      right?

    2. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    3. HS

      But, um, I think, uh, a lot of women, um, also can't afford the breast milk 'cause the breast milk i- is expensive. You know, if you can't nurse buying-

    4. JR

      Oh, you mean buying breast milk?

    5. HS

      Yeah.

    6. JR

      Yeah.

    7. HS

      Yeah, that's-

    8. JR

      It's very expensive.

    9. HS

      Yeah, that stuff is very expensive. So it's hard to get alternatives, blah, blah, blah, blah. And the thing is, like, there are people that are making, um, baby formula that is, like, organic, holistic. But because of, like, FDA regulations, there's certain guidelines they gotta stay within, so they can't say, "Oh, this is safe for a newborn," right?

    10. JR

      Oh.

    11. HS

      But you can technically give it to a newborn, but they can't put that on the label and say, "Hey, this is good for a newborn." You can get this stuff on Amazon, right? Um, but there's organic, like, good baby formula out there.

    12. JR

      So they can't call it baby formula? Is that what it is?

    13. HS

      Yeah. Well-

    14. JR

      What do they call it?

    15. HS

      It's, it's like, it's more... They, they stay, they, uh, market it towards, like, more toddlers.

    16. JR

      Huh.

    17. HS

      So, like, it's, it's like, uh, I wanna say 6 to 12 months or 12 months to 24 months or something like that.

    18. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    19. HS

      Yeah. I just had a baby, so that's why I was-

    20. JR

      Oh, I see.

    21. HS

      ... like, yeah, all in it.

    22. JR

      Oh, here it is. Some of America's biggest manufacturers of baby food have not been adequately testing and removing products with dangerous levels of heavy metals according to new Congressional, US Congressional report. This is all part of an ongoing battle to make baby food safe. The new report says Gerber and Beech-Nut didn't properly test and remove these products while Sprout Foods Incorporated, Walmart's Parent's Choice, and Plum Organics were relaxed in their efforts.

    23. HS

      Mm.

    24. JR

      Arsenic, lead, cadmium, and mercury were found in rice cereals, sweet potato purees, juices, and sweet snack puffs according to a previous report from the sub-committee on economic and consumer policy committee on oversight.

    25. HS

      Mm-hmm.

    26. JR

      At the time, the companies, Nature sells Happy Family Organics and Happy Baby Products, Beech-Nut, Hain, Earth's Best Organic, and Gerber agreed to the sub-committee's previous request for investigation. The sub-committee also reached out to Walmart, Campbell, and Sprout Organic Foods, which did not allow the investigation. Those companies later began cooperating.

    27. HS

      Mm.

    28. JR

      Mm.

    29. HS

      Yeah, that's what I was talking about. Right.

    30. JR

      So there's a toxic baby food lawsuit cases.

  19. 42:22 – 45:34

    Marsism

    1. JR

    2. HS

      What did Lenin say? Lenin said about Marxism... He said something like, um-... something... It was, like, this evil quote from Lenin that basically, like, was completely inhumane. I, I forget the exact quote, man. But, like, when you're dealing with Marxism, like... Marxism is designed to, uh, demoralize and destroy a population, right? And, so if you look at, like, the Holodomor or Holodomor, that, that's, like, massive famine throughout Eastern Europe, right? So, like, when I see, like, the food shortages and I see Marxists running around in America, I'm like, "Oh, okay, so it's the same play." Like, I always tell people, I always say, like, "The most important thing you gotta study in history, or Western history, is the Russian Revolution." And we're kind of seeing that play out again here in America. So, when I see food shortages, I go, "Okay, this is the famine," right? "This is the famine that they're trying to manufacture, da-da-da-da." And then, um, you know, one of the enemies of, um, of Marxism, obviously, is the middle class, right? So, like, they wanna attack the middle class and da-da-da-da-da. But, um, the, the idea is to, uh, squeeze us, right? (smacks lips) And, and, and, and, and destroy us, and, and then present themselves as the solution, right?

    3. JR

      Yes.

    4. HS

      That, to make themselves, like, seem necessary, right?

    5. JR

      Right.

    6. HS

      Um, that's really what, what the play is. Uh, it, it's, it's evil, but (sighs) it's intelligent at the same time, because if you're worried about food, how can you-

    7. JR

      Right.

    8. HS

      ... talk about the Fed?

    9. JR

      Yeah, you don't, you don't think about anything but food when you're running out of food.

    10. HS

      Right, right.

    11. JR

      And it's really easy to get other things done.

    12. HS

      Yeah.

    13. JR

      Get people to... Like, "We can get you food, but we need to get you onto a centralized digital currency where we-"

    14. HS

      Hmm.

    15. JR

      "... can ration the amount of food." 'Cause there's a lot of people out there that are hoarding food.

    16. HS

      Yes.

    17. JR

      They have a hoarding food problem.

    18. HS

      Yeah. (laughs) Right, that's what they'll tell you, right?

    19. JR

      That's what they'll tell you.

    20. HS

      Yeah.

    21. JR

      And then they'll tell you, uh, "But, uh, Hotep, if you just sign up for our digital currency-"

    22. HS

      Mm-hmm.

    23. JR

      "... and you get on that. Oh, but you can't go on vacation, though, because we saw some things that you said on Twitter."

    24. HS

      Mm-hmm.

    25. JR

      "So, you have to clean up your social profile."

    26. HS

      Right.

    27. JR

      "So, maybe, maybe, maybe some good positive tweets-

    28. HS

      Yeah.

    29. JR

      "... about the government?"

    30. HS

      Yeah. They'll, um-

  20. 45:34 – 46:34

    Chaos

    1. HS

      I mean, it's just, like, like, they just create chaos, right? They just wanna-

    2. JR

      Yeah.

    3. HS

      ... like, disrupt everybody and just create chaos, keep everybody, like I always say, distracted, right? So, the thing is, like, once you create the famine and you create the poverty... So, the first people that, um, are attacked by poor lower class (sighs) who has been radicalized for survival is the middle class.

    4. JR

      Hmm.

    5. HS

      Right? So, you squeeze from the top and the bottom, and then that's how you, like, squeeze out the middle class. And once you squeeze out the middle class, then it's just us versus them, right? And then that's when it just becomes, like, a, um, like, like, a, more like, um, a drone population of people. Like the Matrix movie, almost.

    6. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    7. HS

      Like, where you just become a battery in the system, and that's why-

    8. JR

      Don't you think that's where we're going?

    9. HS

      Yes.

    10. JR

      That's like... It's almost inevitable, right?

    11. HS

      Yeah. You're gonna have... The world is going to be bifurcated based upon organic and inorganic people.

    12. JR

      Ooh.

    13. HS

      Okay? (laughs) Like, we're talking about organic

  21. 46:34 – 53:34

    Transhumanism

    1. HS

      food, we're talking about, like, organ-

    2. JR

      Ooh.

    3. HS

      So for example, like-

    4. JR

      They're gonna have, uh, inorganic Olympics.

    5. HS

      You saw the swimmer, right?

    6. JR

      Which one?

    7. HS

      The, uh...

    8. JR

      The one who's biologically male?

    9. HS

      Yeah.

    10. JR

      Yes. Well, this is gonna be even a bigger hack if you become part robot.

    11. HS

      Right, yes. Well, that's, that's transhumanism.

    12. JR

      Yeah.

    13. HS

      Yeah, yeah, yeah.

    14. JR

      That's-

    15. HS

      That's the, that's the next step. If we're willing to do, like, the gender bender thing, like- Right.

    16. JR

      ... what's, what's to stop us? Like, "Hey, he was going to die. Now he's an Olympic gold medalist."

    17. HS

      Yes.

    18. JR

      "All we had to do is replace his spine with, uh, some fucking carbon fiber thing with electric rods that makes your muscles fire far better."

    19. HS

      Yeah.

    20. JR

      I mean, if they came along and said that... Like, I have a friend (sniffs) and he's got a fucked up back.

    21. HS

      Hmm.

    22. JR

      He's had a bunch of back surgeries, got just... His back is fucked up.

    23. HS

      Mm-hmm.

    24. JR

      It's from jujitsu.

    25. HS

      Okay.

    26. JR

      It's all, all messed up. Like, guys get discs fused and artificial discs put in.

    27. HS

      Hmm.

    28. JR

      If you came to him and said, "Bro, not only can we fix all your problems, we're gonna give you a carbon fiber spine that's virtually indestructible and it's 100% more efficient at sending signals to your muscles so your body will move better."

    29. HS

      Hmm.

    30. JR

      "It's, it's all powered by just the same way-

  22. 53:34 – 56:34

    Underground

    1. JR

      he's gonna rewire it and fuck with it.

    2. HS

      And then you look at like a movie like Demolition Man, right?

    3. JR

      Yeah.

    4. HS

      Where did those people live? They lived underground, right? So, but that's a metaphor-

    5. JR

      Yeah.

    6. HS

      ... for where we're going, right? So here's a question I always ask people. Is Joe Rogan mainstream or is he underground? Everybody tells me Joe Rogan's mainstream. But I'm like, "He's the leader of the underground." Five most important people on this planet. You ready? Joe Rogan, Dana White.

    7. JR

      (laughs)

    8. HS

      (laughs)

    9. JR

      This fucking list is ridiculous.

    10. HS

      Dana White. Why Dana White?

    11. JR

      Why Dana White?

    12. HS

      Why Dana White?

    13. JR

      'Cause he doesn't give a fuck?

    14. HS

      Bingo. It's basically that, right?

    15. JR

      Yeah.

    16. HS

      It's the place, like when the whole pandemic went down, he like, "No, we continue operation. Ain't nobody scared of that, right?"

    17. JR

      Yeah, he-

    18. HS

      Right? Like-

    19. JR

      ... led the way.

    20. HS

      Like, who else did that?

    21. JR

      Well, he's the guy that's got fuck you money and so he just does whatever the fuck he wants.

    22. HS

      Okay.

    23. JR

      He's o-

    24. HS

      But a lot of people fucking mi-

    25. JR

      Legitimately.

    26. HS

      ... pu- fuck you money that go along with the, the bull, right?

    27. JR

      They get scared. Yeah. They don't want to lose it, they get scared.

    28. HS

      And then in the top three is Dave Chappelle. Like that stand up he did on Netflix that he got in trouble for?

    29. JR

      Yeah.

    30. HS

      I was like, "Oh my God, did he just say that today in this time period?"

  23. 56:34 – 1:12:52

    Willside

    1. JR

    2. HS

      That, to me, was special.

    3. JR

      (laughs)

    4. HS

      (laughs) Right? Like-

    5. JR

      That is humor.

    6. HS

      The names are inter- Yeah, the names are variables, right? Like-

    7. JR

      Right.

    8. HS

      ... it's just X and Y. X smacked Y at the, at the Oscars.

    9. JR

      Yeah. But the smack, to me, wasn't nearly as shocking as him quivering-

    10. HS

      At the e-

    11. JR

      ... like when he was like, "Keep my wife's name out your fucking mouth."

    12. HS

      Yeah.

    13. JR

      He was emotional.

    14. HS

      Yeah.

    15. JR

      And I don't think he had realized at that moment that he had fucking flipped his life upside down.

    16. HS

      Yeah.

    17. JR

      I don't think he totally realized that.

    18. HS

      He- yeah.

    19. JR

      For some reason, he thought he could get away with that. That is a crazy thing to think you can do. Just walk on stage, smack a guy, and then sit back down, and then he did it. And not only did he do it, but they gave him the fucking Academy Award later.

    20. HS

      (laughs)

    21. JR

      And he went up to give a speech.

    22. HS

      (laughs) Yeah.

    23. JR

      And in the speech, he didn't say, "Hey, I'm sorry I assaulted that guy."

    24. HS

      It's also, yeah.

    25. JR

      He didn't even say that. He apologized for his actions, but he didn't even apologize to Chris Rock. Like it's, it's wild. There's no supporting that. But I do support the idea that someone got smacked.

    26. HS

      Right.

    27. JR

      Because it's a human moment.

    28. HS

      Yes. It's a human moment in a place that's not supposed to be human.

    29. JR

      Yeah, it's everything is fucking polished and people wearing bow ties and shit.

    30. HS

      Y-

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