Joe Rogan Experience #1819 - Cameron Hanes

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   (drumming) Joe Rogan podcast,…

   1. NANarrator0:00

      (drumming) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

   2. The Joe Rogan Experience.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (rock music) And we're up. Cameron Hanes, author.

   4. CHCameron Hanes0:16

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:16

      How's it feel to be an author? You've been... You've actually been an author for a long time now.

   6. CHCameron Hanes0:20

      Yeah, but-

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:21

      You've ... Backcountry Bowhunting. When did you write that?

   8. CHCameron Hanes0:22

      Not really ... Those didn't really count. Those were, like, bowhunting books, so it's like ... I mean, I guess it counts, but it's different than ... This is an actual book book.

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:31

      This is a real book.

   10. CHCameron Hanes0:32

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:32

       Endure. It's from a real publisher.

   12. CHCameron Hanes0:34

       Yeah, exactly. So-

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:35

       It's legit.

   14. CHCameron Hanes0:36

       The other ones weren't really like that. I've had two other books. Backcountry Bow Trophy... Or wait, Bowhunting Trophy Blacktail was in 1999, and Backcountry Bowhunting was in 2006.

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:47

       And then this one is tomorrow, which is today. If you're listening to this, it's coming out today. It's Endure, and, uh, it's got... You've got that face of you from when you were moose hunting. You have that-

   16. CHCameron Hanes0:58

       Yeah, that's, uh-

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:59

       ... manliest, manliest photo with the cheek cut and the blood trickling down your face. When you had that, when that... when the ch- blood was trickling down your face, were you like, "Ooh, get some pictures."

   18. CHCameron Hanes1:09

       No.

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:09

       "'Cause it's pretty fucking manly."

   20. CHCameron Hanes1:10

       I was-

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:11

       (laughs)

   22. CHCameron Hanes1:11

       So, Roy wasn't up there. That was, that was Roy and I's last hunt, but he wasn't up there yet, and I was going through these alders, snow-covered, pretty foggy. And all... It was weird, um, when you're fighting through alders, they're slapping you in the face and things like that, and I slipped, and there's one that was broke, and it was kind of sharp, and I slipped, and it went right on my cheek. And I was thinking to myself at the time, I'm like, "Could have taken out an eye."

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:35

       Yeah.

   24. CHCameron Hanes1:35

       You know, that would have been great. But it just did that, and uh-

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:39

       There it is. Come on, man. That's probably one of the most badass pictures a person's ever taken.

   26. CHCameron Hanes1:44

       So I got, I got up. Thank you. Selfie. And I got up there-

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:48

       (laughs)

   28. CHCameron Hanes1:48

       And then I got to the top and was kind of looking around, and you can see it's kind of foggy back there. And then I didn't know m- my... I actually had blood. And then, yeah, selfie.

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:56

       Did you, like, look at it in a selfie to, to-

   30. CHCameron Hanes1:58

       Yeah.
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   Yeah. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan15:00

      all the guys that we know, Remy, that eat wild game all the time, they look pretty damn good.

   2. CHCameron Hanes15:04

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan15:04

      Healthy folks.

   4. CHCameron Hanes15:05

      Definitely.

   5. JRJoe Rogan15:06

      There's something to that. And there's something f- a- again, for m- a guy who, you know, for 40 plus years of my life didn't eat wild game and then-

   6. CHCameron Hanes15:12

      Mm-hmm.

   7. JRJoe Rogan15:12

      ... I eat it all the time.

   8. CHCameron Hanes15:14

      Right.

   9. JRJoe Rogan15:14

      So it's different. It's different.

   10. CHCameron Hanes15:16

       Yeah. I, I, I get beat up for this too, because I guess, you know, vegans can say whatever they want about hunters and it's good to go. I put up... I remember I put up one thing about a vegan. I can't remember what it was. It was like someb- their diet and it's like they went from this healthy person to looking pretty sickly.

   11. JRJoe Rogan15:31

       Oh, there's a lot of those people.

   12. CHCameron Hanes15:32

       And it's kind of a, a meme joke thing and I'm just like, "Oh no, actually..." God, and this is... I'm probably stepping in. I know you can't get canceled, but maybe I can. But I put up, uh, something about Canelo, 'cause I guess-

   13. JRJoe Rogan15:44

       Yes.

   14. CHCameron Hanes15:44

       ... I guess he went vegan.

   15. JRJoe Rogan15:45

       Yeah, he went vegan for his last fight.

   16. CHCameron Hanes15:47

       And all I put up was, "That worked well."

   17. JRJoe Rogan15:49

       Yeah.

   18. CHCameron Hanes15:50

       (laughs)

   19. JRJoe Rogan15:50

       I reposted it.

   20. CHCameron Hanes15:52

       Okay. (laughs) So-

   21. JRJoe Rogan15:52

       (laughs) I reposted in my Instagram stories.

   22. CHCameron Hanes15:53

       I got so much hate for that.

   23. JRJoe Rogan15:55

       Yeah.

   24. CHCameron Hanes15:55

       You know? And it's like, we get crucified for being, you know, killers and meat eaters and all this. I put up one joke meme about Canelo, who looked awful compared to how he... And with the one thing that changed was his diet, and then I'll, all of a sudden I'm the bad guy. But anyway.

   25. JRJoe Rogan16:10

       Well, there's two things going on there. One, Bivol is a real legit light heavyweight, and that's only the second light heavyweight that Canelo had fought. The first one was Kovalev, but Kovalev was at the end of his career.

   26. CHCameron Hanes16:22

       Mm-hmm.

   27. JRJoe Rogan16:22

       Kovalev had lost a bunch of times, he'd been stopped, and he wasn't the same guy as he was like when he fought Andre Ward the first time.

   28. CHCameron Hanes16:29

       Right.

   29. JRJoe Rogan16:29

       But Kovalev when he was the man, when he was a light heavyweight champion, was a real savage.

   30. CHCameron Hanes16:34

       Mm-hmm.
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   Mm-hmm. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan30:00

      disciplined. Chandler is a berserker.

   2. CHCameron Hanes30:02

      Mm-hmm.

   3. JRJoe Rogan30:03

      He's just a wild man, you know, and that knockout of Tony Ferguson was the most intense head kick knockout I think I've ever seen, because it's rare that a guy is at a level of Tony Ferguson that just gets flat-lined with a head kick like that.

   4. CHCameron Hanes30:17

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan30:17

      And to have it be a front kick...... like, DC said it best, he said it wasn't even like a regular front kick, it was like he kicked a soccer ball.

   6. CHCameron Hanes30:25

      Oh, God. And-

   7. JRJoe Rogan30:25

      Like, he just swung his leg up and just-

   8. CHCameron Hanes30:28

      Yeah. I heard him-

   9. JRJoe Rogan30:29

      ... almost decapitated him.

   10. CHCameron Hanes30:30

       I heard him say that Tony comes in wide.

   11. JRJoe Rogan30:32

       Mm-hmm.

   12. CHCameron Hanes30:33

       You know?

   13. JRJoe Rogan30:33

       Yes.

   14. CHCameron Hanes30:33

       And so there, they felt like there was that channel up the middle.

   15. JRJoe Rogan30:36

       Right. And he took-

   16. CHCameron Hanes30:37

       But he said he didn't even plan that.

   17. JRJoe Rogan30:37

       No, I know. But I, I guess just plan, thinking of strikes in your head, up the middle strikes?

   18. CHCameron Hanes30:42

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan30:42

       And that's one of 'em. Landed.

   20. CHCameron Hanes30:45

       My God. I thought, I was actually worried for Tony. He was down for a while.

   21. JRJoe Rogan30:49

       He was out unconscious for several minutes.

   22. CHCameron Hanes30:52

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan30:52

       It was-

   24. CHCameron Hanes30:52

       That was scary.

   25. JRJoe Rogan30:53

       It was scary. It was scary to be there. Because, you know, (knocks on table) knock on wood, there's never been a real death or seri- I don't want, a real death. There's never been a death-

   26. CHCameron Hanes31:02

       Mm-hmm.

   27. JRJoe Rogan31:02

       ... or serious injury inside the Octagon.

   28. CHCameron Hanes31:05

       Mm-hmm.

   29. JRJoe Rogan31:05

       You know, like, r- I mean, there's been break, broken bones.

   30. CHCameron Hanes31:07

       Right.
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   Yeah. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan45:00

      if you are a athlete, especially if you're in a combat sport, you need to have everything dialed i- dialed in.

   2. CHCameron Hanes45:07

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan45:07

      Your recovery, you need to be doing the sauna every day, ice bath. You need to be eating all the right food, drinking all the white water. They should hydration test you every day. You got hundreds of millions of dollars on the line.

   4. CHCameron Hanes45:19

      I know.

   5. JRJoe Rogan45:19

      That's Canelo Alvarez.

   6. CHCameron Hanes45:21

      (laughs) I know.

   7. JRJoe Rogan45:22

      He shouldn't be eating fucking plants.

   8. CHCameron Hanes45:24

      (laughs)

   9. JRJoe Rogan45:24

      The fuck are you doing, bro? You're eating celery?

   10. CHCameron Hanes45:27

       Yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan45:27

       We gotta get a steak in you.

   12. CHCameron Hanes45:28

       Yeah, well, that's what I was saying is, like, his approach, where he'll eat, you know, greens and salads most the time and every once in a while have meat? That-

   13. JRJoe Rogan45:35

       Yeah.

   14. CHCameron Hanes45:35

       I do all meat, and every once in a while have a salad.

   15. JRJoe Rogan45:39

       (laughs) You know, when Mike Tyson was in here, he was thanking me for turning him on to wild game.

   16. CHCameron Hanes45:42

       Really?

   17. JRJoe Rogan45:43

       Yes.

   18. CHCameron Hanes45:43

       He's been getting wild game?

   19. JRJoe Rogan45:44

       Yes.

   20. CHCameron Hanes45:45

       From bison?

   21. JRJoe Rogan45:45

       But I, I offered to get him some elk.

   22. CHCameron Hanes45:47

       Oh.

   23. JRJoe Rogan45:47

       But I never got it to him. He, we never connected after that.

   24. CHCameron Hanes45:50

       Oh, okay.

   25. JRJoe Rogan45:50

       But he went to, uh, somewhere and got a lot of bison. He got, uh, uh-

   26. CHCameron Hanes45:54

       Oh.

   27. JRJoe Rogan45:54

       He was eating a lot of bison-

   28. CHCameron Hanes45:56

       Yeah, okay.

   29. JRJoe Rogan45:56

       ... before, uh, he started training again. He's like, "Oh, my God, it made such a difference."

   30. CHCameron Hanes46:00

       Mm-hmm.
5. 1:00:00 – 1:08:20

   ... Fury. Oh my…

   1. CHCameron Hanes1:00:00

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:00:00

      ... Fury. Oh my God.

   3. CHCameron Hanes1:00:00

      What are you doing?

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:00:01

      Oh my God.

   5. CHCameron Hanes1:00:02

      That would be crazy. That would be. What are you doing? That would be crazy. Yeah, sign him, put him in Africa. M- a huge fight.

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:00:07

      What if they both get malaria? (laughs)

   7. CHCameron Hanes1:00:10

      (laughs) I don't know. But it'd be a hell of a fight 'cause they'd be equal then if they both had malaria.

   8. NANarrator1:00:15

      (laughs)

   9. JRJoe Rogan1:00:17

      (laughs) Um, like, if they did fight in Africa, I wonder where they would do it. I wonder if they would do it at, like, Rumble in the Jungle, right where they're-

   10. CHCameron Hanes1:00:23

       I know.

   11. JRJoe Rogan1:00:24

       ... where Ali fought, where he fought Cuellar.

   12. CHCameron Hanes1:00:25

       Yeah, I mean, something of their d- ... It would be insane. They could probably get a million people there.

   13. JRJoe Rogan1:00:30

       Yeah.

   14. CHCameron Hanes1:00:31

       I mean, you gotta do that.

   15. JRJoe Rogan1:00:32

       Yeah.

   16. CHCameron Hanes1:00:33

       Right?

   17. JRJoe Rogan1:00:33

       That would be incredible. If he fought in Ca- ... I mean, I hope Cameroon has a venue.

   18. CHCameron Hanes1:00:39

       Probably not.

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:00:40

       Well, it's not just that. It's also like you have to have a fighter hotel where all the fighters can stay-

   20. CHCameron Hanes1:00:46

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:00:46

       ... and you'd have to have world-class facilities-

   22. CHCameron Hanes1:00:48

       I don't-

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:00:48

       ... for them to train at.

   24. CHCameron Hanes1:00:49

       I don't know. I mean, South Africa's, you know, probably ... They probably have that.

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:00:55

       Yeah.

   26. CHCameron Hanes1:00:55

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:00:55

       Yeah, I'm sure they do-

   28. CHCameron Hanes1:00:56

       Do-

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:00:56

       ... in South Africa.

   30. CHCameron Hanes1:00:56

       Do- Cape, Cape Town.

Episode duration: 2:45:43