Joe Rogan Experience #1823 - Neal Brennan

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   (drum music) Joe Rogan podcast,…

   1. NANarrator0:00

      (drum music) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

   2. The Joe Rogan Experience.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (rock music)

   4. NBNeal Brennan0:12

      Bro.

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:13

      Hello, my bro.

   6. NBNeal Brennan0:13

      Hey, buddy. What's going on? What are you doing? Yo, this is the same ...

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:15

      You're slowly opening that bottle.

   8. NBNeal Brennan0:17

      This is the same podcast we used to do in your basement, right?

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:19

      Basically.

   10. NBNeal Brennan0:20

       The same.

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:20

       Yeah, it's just a little different.

   12. NBNeal Brennan0:21

       Same one, just scaled out?

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:22

       It's not much different in terms of how they ... I don't fucking know.

   14. NBNeal Brennan0:24

       What happened to it? (laughs) I was wondering what happened to it, and then I got an email that said your friend Joe's doing a podcast in Austin. Um, congrats, buddy.

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:34

       Thanks, man.

   16. NBNeal Brennan0:35

       You don't seem to care that much-

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:39

       (laughs)

   18. NBNeal Brennan0:39

       ... which I like.

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:40

       What does that mean? (laughs)

   20. NBNeal Brennan0:41

       Uh, you just didn't, like, moo.

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:43

       I'm the same person.

   22. NBNeal Brennan0:43

       Like, you've never been especially, like, susceptible to ... I, I feel like fame was eased on you s- like, incrementally-

   23. JRJoe Rogan0:52

       Yes.

   24. NBNeal Brennan0:52

       ... and then, like, a lot at once, but you were so used to it that you're just like, "Hmm."

   25. JRJoe Rogan0:55

       Yeah, I can handle it. It's, uh, it's weird. It's not, it's not normal. It's definitely not, uh, you don't want to take it all in one shot. Like, if you, like a Demi Lovato type character-

   26. NBNeal Brennan1:06

       Mm-hmm.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:06

       ... or some young celebrity-

   28. NBNeal Brennan1:08

       Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:08

       ... I, I fucking pity those people so much.

   30. NBNeal Brennan1:11

       Under 30, you have no chance.
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   Yeah, but he, he…

   1. JRJoe Rogan15:00

   2. NBNeal Brennan15:00

      Yeah, but he, he like wasn't, he's like, "I'm not coming in."

   3. JRJoe Rogan15:04

      Interesting.

   4. NBNeal Brennan15:04

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan15:05

      Well, what happens with those shows is the network and the executives and the production company realize that there's a big windfall when this motherfucker is over and it's gonna continue forever.

   6. NBNeal Brennan15:17

      Mm-hmm.

   7. JRJoe Rogan15:17

      You're gonna be able to sell those DVDs.

   8. NBNeal Brennan15:19

      Yeah.

   9. JRJoe Rogan15:19

      You're gonna be able to sell the streaming. It's gonna be, there was no streaming back then.

   10. NBNeal Brennan15:22

       Back then, it was all DVDs, yeah.

   11. JRJoe Rogan15:23

       Yeah. And the, the windfall will last forever. And you could be short-sighted as an actor and not recognize that this is something like The Honeymooners that's just gonna exist in the ether forever, and someone always gonna be selling it and buying it.

   12. NBNeal Brennan15:36

       Well, that's the thing, like Seinfeld, Friends. Seinfeld, those license- those syndication deals are every three years.

   13. JRJoe Rogan15:45

       Mm-hmm.

   14. NBNeal Brennan15:45

       So when they go, "Larry David and Jerry Seinfeld got $100 million." It's like, they got $100 million a bunch of times.

   15. JRJoe Rogan15:52

       Yeah. Yeah.

   16. NBNeal Brennan15:53

       Quietly. They, it, it's every three or four years, and then they sold it to Hulu-

   17. JRJoe Rogan15:58

       Mm-hmm.

   18. NBNeal Brennan15:58

       ... Netflix, like-

   19. JRJoe Rogan15:59

       Yeah.

   20. NBNeal Brennan15:59

       And then all these streaming places started showing up, and they didn't, and HBO Plus, and there was no exclusivity.

   21. JRJoe Rogan16:06

       Yeah.

   22. NBNeal Brennan16:06

       Fucking great. Great.

   23. JRJoe Rogan16:08

       Yeah. No, it's great. But it is interesting that like there's this like weird moment where everyone's trying to figure out like how much can they take? Like negotiate how much they can... But with a guy like Gandolfini, it's like you don't have a show if I leave.

   24. NBNeal Brennan16:24

       Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan16:24

       You're good.

   26. NBNeal Brennan16:24

       And also, they pretend, they can't lie.

   27. JRJoe Rogan16:28

       Right.

   28. NBNeal Brennan16:28

       It's like, guys, I can see how much money this has made. Like-

   29. JRJoe Rogan16:32

       Right.

   30. NBNeal Brennan16:32

       ... now I can see it.
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   Man are they having…

   1. JRJoe Rogan30:00

      um, wound up getting it from having risky sex. Yeah they were, um... Yeah, wor- World Health Organization's Emergency, uh, Department said that the leading theory was sexual transmission among gay and bisexual men at two raves held in Spain and Belgium. Fucking dudes-

   2. NBNeal Brennan30:21

      Man are they having a-

   3. JRJoe Rogan30:21

      ... partying.

   4. NBNeal Brennan30:22

      ... they're having a time over there.

   5. JRJoe Rogan30:23

      Dudes, dudes you can't get pregnant. Both viruses can cause flu-like symptoms, but monkeypox also triggers in large lymph nodes as well and eventually distinctive fluid-filled lesions on the face, hands, and feet. Most people recover from monkeypox in a few weeks without treatment.

   6. NBNeal Brennan30:41

      This feels like once... Most people recover from monkeypox in a few weeks without treatment. It's like w-... I shouldn't know about this.

   7. JRJoe Rogan30:47

      Yeah, you shouldn't know about this. This is like-

   8. NBNeal Brennan30:49

      Like, this is useless.

   9. JRJoe Rogan30:50

      Well, I think the amount of people that have gotten monkeypox-

   10. NBNeal Brennan30:53

       (coughs)

   11. JRJoe Rogan30:53

       ... is very small.

   12. NBNeal Brennan30:54

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan30:54

       I mean, I think it's, like, less than 50. Let's, let's, let's ask this: how many people have got monkeypox? 'Cause when I was looking at it, they were, they were tracking... There was, at one point there was 11 cases that they're aware of of monkeypox in this one area. I'm like, "That's not-"

   14. NBNeal Brennan31:08

       It's definitely, like, clickable. Like, it'll make me click on it.

   15. JRJoe Rogan31:12

       Yeah.

   16. NBNeal Brennan31:12

       It's a fun... It's got monkey in it. It's- (laughs)

   17. JRJoe Rogan31:14

       Yeah, it's got pox.

   18. NBNeal Brennan31:15

       It's got pox in it. (laughs)

   19. JRJoe Rogan31:16

       Pox is not good.

   20. NBNeal Brennan31:16

       Two hard Ks.

   21. JRJoe Rogan31:17

       Yeah, pox is bad.

   22. NBNeal Brennan31:18

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan31:18

       Pox on your society and pox on your family, yeah.

   24. NBNeal Brennan31:20

       Yeah, on your, on your house, etc. Your hands, your feet.

   25. JRJoe Rogan31:22

       Sounds bad.

   26. NBNeal Brennan31:22

       It pox on your feet.

   27. JRJoe Rogan31:24

       Sounds bad.

   28. NBNeal Brennan31:25

       Uh-

   29. JRJoe Rogan31:25

       But it's, uh... It's just they're running out of stuff to scare people about.

   30. NBNeal Brennan31:29

       At least 50.
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   They're both, they both…

   1. JRJoe Rogan45:00

      coke, and you're drinking, and you're going crazy, and, and you get to, you get to hear the versions of the story that just don't make sense, and you go, "Oh, this is, this is just bullshit." 'Cause-

   2. NBNeal Brennan45:14

      They're both, they both sound... It sounds ba-... Like, e- if half of it's true in both directions, I'm like, this feels like a-

   3. JRJoe Rogan45:21

      Yeah.

   4. NBNeal Brennan45:21

      ... a tie for last. It doesn't feel like there's a wi-... I guess Johnny wins in that he-

   5. JRJoe Rogan45:26

      He seems like a nicer guy.

   6. NBNeal Brennan45:27

      He seems like a nicer guy. He also... People, you see him on TV and you're like, "I fucking like this guy."

   7. JRJoe Rogan45:33

      Yeah.

   8. NBNeal Brennan45:33

      "I like this... I miss having Johnny Depp in the movies." Um, but-

   9. JRJoe Rogan45:37

      I think-

   10. NBNeal Brennan45:37

       But it seem... And, and it, hi-... It seemed like, "Let's scorch the earth," and he's like, "Well, fuck it, if we're gonna scorch the earth, let's just scorch it, and maybe..." 'Cause he hasn't worked in five years.

   11. JRJoe Rogan45:48

       And he was losing jobs-

   12. NBNeal Brennan45:50

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan45:51

       ... because of it. And, you know, he then had that lawsuit with the UK newspaper where they called him a, a wife beater, and, uh, he sued them and lost.

   14. NBNeal Brennan46:00

       Yeah.

   15. JRJoe Rogan46:00

       And that became a big issue. I think he lost gigs because of that.

   16. NBNeal Brennan46:03

       That's what this whole trial is about.

   17. JRJoe Rogan46:04

       But what's crazy about that is, like, you're, you're not proving that he was a domestic abuser. You're proving that it's okay for you to say that 'cause he might have been. Like, like, what did they actually prove? Like, there was-

   18. NBNeal Brennan46:18

       Well, that's what I'm saying, there's no, I-... It's like there's no w-... Obviously, the a-... The audience, we won. What a six-week trial show.

   19. JRJoe Rogan46:25

       Jesus Christ, it's insane.

   20. NBNeal Brennan46:25

       What a fucking spectacle.

   21. JRJoe Rogan46:27

       It's, it's amazing.

   22. NBNeal Brennan46:28

       Two gorgeous, two gorgeous people going head to head. (laughs)

   23. JRJoe Rogan46:31

       Oh, I should also apologize to the woman, Camille. Her name is Camille. I said sh-... Her name was Claire the other day. I think I was high. Uh, Claire Vazquez, um, Johnny Depp's-

   24. NBNeal Brennan46:39

       The lawyer?

   25. JRJoe Rogan46:40

       She's amazing.

   26. NBNeal Brennan46:41

       Mm-hmm.

   27. JRJoe Rogan46:41

       That lady's incredible.

   28. NBNeal Brennan46:43

       Mm-hmm. But yeah, it seems like-

   29. JRJoe Rogan46:45

       But is it re-... I said Claire again, didn't I? I did. Goddamn it, this fucking weed. Her name is, uh, it's Camille, right?

   30. NBNeal Brennan46:52

       Her name is Camille. No idea.
5. 1:00:00 – 1:09:08

   Oh, wow. …

   1. NBNeal Brennan1:00:00

      Basically, you have two eyes and they create a unified field of vision. I have two eyes and it's ... I see one and a half.

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:00:11

      Oh, wow.

   3. NBNeal Brennan1:00:11

      So at a certain point, my left eye just shut off. So I basically-

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:00:17

      So if you close your right eye, what happens?

   5. NBNeal Brennan1:00:17

      Well, no, it, it'll come back on, but my brain will not ... Uh, my brain is just right eye.

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:00:24

      So your brain is always just trying to look-

   7. NBNeal Brennan1:00:26

      Just-

   8. JRJoe Rogan1:00:26

      ... out of your right eye.

   9. NBNeal Brennan1:00:26

      Right eye all the ... It ... That's the only s- like, signal it recognizes. So like that joke in Wayne's World, camera number one, camera number two, camera-

   10. JRJoe Rogan1:00:33

       Yeah.

   11. NBNeal Brennan1:00:33

       I literally thought that's what everyone's vision was like.

   12. JRJoe Rogan1:00:37

       Oh, wow.

   13. NBNeal Brennan1:00:38

       So basically, I've spent the last almost year, uh, turning my left eye on.

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:00:46

       Jesus.

   15. NBNeal Brennan1:00:46

       And so basically, I ... With Oculus. It's a 3D Oculus exercises that I have to do every day, basically. And it's like spati- like picking ... One of them is picking fruit. It's ... You c- ... It's like a 3D puzzle that unless your left eye is turned on, you cannot-... you can't play-

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:01:06

       Mm-hmm.

   17. NBNeal Brennan1:01:06

       ... or you can't be good at. And, uh, slowly, but ... So now I'm at the phase where like both my eyes are turned on.

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:01:14

       Oh, wow.

   19. NBNeal Brennan1:01:14

       But it's one and a half. And then at a certain point, it will fuse into one image.

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:01:21

       Hmm.

   21. NBNeal Brennan1:01:21

       And, and, uh, the doctor told me, the guy that I went to said that like, he's like, "I have patients that, you know, I can't say who did it, but Carl Lewis told me that the sprinters said that I could tell people he had it done." And it like, it was like he wasn't racing anymore, but he's like, "I was jumping too early."

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:01:41

       Oh, whoa.

   23. NBNeal Brennan1:01:41

       'Cause I didn't have-

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:01:43

       Depth perception.

   25. NBNeal Brennan1:01:44

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:01:44

       (sighs) Wow.

   27. NBNeal Brennan1:01:46

       Uh, shit like that where it's like, it's not ... Apparently, I don't have 3D vision. I, so I just do it based on other sh- I don't know. Like I didn't know I didn't. Um, but it was fucking fascinating that I was just my right eye all the time.

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:02:02

       You know Michael Bisping?

   29. NBNeal Brennan1:02:03

       No, who's that?

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:02:04

       He was the UFC middleweight champion.

Episode duration: 3:46:05