Joe Rogan Experience #1827 - Kristin Beck

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Narrator 0:04 The Joe Rogan Experience.

Joe Rogan 0:06 Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (rock music plays) How are you? What's happening? How are you? We're doing this.

Kristin Beck 0:18 (laughs) Yeah.

Joe Rogan 0:18 Nice to meet you.

Kristin Beck 0:19 After how many years trying to get this done.

Joe Rogan 0:20 Yeah. We talked ... I think we first talked, like, four years ago or something, right?

Kristin Beck 0:24 About four years ago. Yeah. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 0:25 Yeah. So, um-

Kristin Beck 0:26 I'm so glad we waited, though.

Joe Rogan 0:28 Yeah?

Kristin Beck 0:28 'Cause I, uh, I'll tell you what, four years ago, I was a mess. 10 years ago, I was a mess.

Joe Rogan 0:33 In what way?

Kristin Beck 0:34 I just, I didn't know what I was doing.

Joe Rogan 0:37 In what-

Kristin Beck 0:37 There's no, like, there's no, like, workbook or cookbook or there's nothing out there for anybody to ... Especially me, you know?

Joe Rogan 0:44 Mm-hmm.

Kristin Beck 0:44 I was born in the '60s.

Joe Rogan 0:45 Right.

Kristin Beck 0:46 And so trying to figure out my life with no guidance and nobody out there, it's been a real struggle. I did a, uh, I did a real in-depth reading one time with this person who was, like, a deep, high-up shaman from, uh, Malaysia or over there somewhere, maybe Philippines. But he did a reading. He said, "You're gonna have a real tough life." He said-

Joe Rogan 1:06 How old were you when this happened? When-

Kristin Beck 1:08 Uh, this was kind of in the middle of a lot of it.

Joe Rogan 1:10 Yeah?

Kristin Beck 1:10 'Cause I was just, I was just all over the place, and I was like ... And one, one of my friends said, "Hey, I have this person who I wanna give you a gift." And, uh, he bought me the session with this guy 'cause it was, I guess it was super expensive 'cause I probably couldn't afford it. (laughs) It was, uh, it was a long reading too. It was about two hours. The guy really got in depth. He asked me a ton of questions and really got into it. He had all my star charts right down to, like, my geolocation of birth, my exact time, minute. I had all the info for him. And so he worked all that stuff before I did the meeting with him, and so he was going through, like, tons of stuff.

Joe Rogan 1:44 How does that work?

Kristin Beck 1:44 And the biggest thing he said ... Well-

Joe Rogan 1:46 How is it, like, the time of birth and the geocode? Like, how ... What is, what are they trying to get out of that?

Kristin Beck 1:51 Well, maybe that's probably where we should start-

Joe Rogan 1:53 Yeah.

Kristin Beck 1:53 Is like stuff that I believe and, like, where my core beliefs lie, you know? Is, I believe there's something. There's a creator, there's a god, whatever you wanna name it. There's something way bigger than us, you know? And I believe that. And I also believe that we are energy beings. Like, we're energy. Our soul, like, what we're made of-

Joe Rogan 2:10 Mm-hmm.

Kristin Beck 2:10 ... it's a piece of energy. It's a piece of that.

Joe Rogan 2:13 Right.

Kristin Beck 2:14 That's how I believe. And so if you have that kind of belief system, you can also believe that everything else is energy. All the animals, all the, all the trees, all the rocks, everything has an energy. Now, if you could line all that energy up and you get it right down to where you are, imagine all that energy and how it lines up. The ... Right when you're born, like, right when it's happening.

Joe Rogan 2:33 Yeah.

Kristin Beck 2:34 So if all those planets, all the Earth and everything else is this and this and this, all that energy is setting at one location for you right at that time. Boom. Okay, now I'm here. It's still gonna imprint on you all that energy and all that focus and all that stuff is there, and that's your spot.

Joe Rogan 2:50 So is the idea-

Kristin Beck 2:50 That's what I believe.

Joe Rogan 2:51 Is the idea that the different planets in the different position in the sky-

Kristin Beck 2:56 Yep. Yep.

Joe Rogan 2:56 ... they all have an effect on gravity? We know that has an effect on-

Kristin Beck 2:59 100%.

Joe Rogan 3:00 Yeah. We en- we know it has an effect on the tides, right?

Kristin Beck 3:02 Yep.

Joe Rogan 3:03 That's, that's a big part... Isn't that a big part of the tides is the gravity that comes from the moon? I mean, think about how much fucking water we're talking about.

Kristin Beck 3:09 That's a lot.

Joe Rogan 3:10 Right? That is kinda craz-

Kristin Beck 3:11 I mean, here's a weird question.

Joe Rogan 3:11 Is that real, though?

Kristin Beck 3:12 That, that's weird, though. Is that-

Joe Rogan 3:14 I need to know that, if that's real. Is that what causes the tides?

Kristin Beck 3:17 I don't think so.

Joe Rogan 3:18 A little bit? We'll find out. We're gonna find out.

Kristin Beck 3:20 Well, gravity is a theory-

Joe Rogan 3:20 This is important to find out because-

Kristin Beck 3:21 'Cause the theory of gravity, I mean, I think that's a, that's a BS theory anyway.

Joe Rogan 3:25 Gravity is a BS theory?

Kristin Beck 3:26 I think it's all has to do with, uh, buoyancy. It's Archimedes, you know?

Joe Rogan 3:30 I don't know what you mean.

Kristin Beck 3:31 Okay. So Archimedes' principle is basically the buoyancy ... If you take your entire body and you put yourself in water-

Joe Rogan 3:38 Right.

Kristin Beck 3:38 ... the amount of water you displace-

Joe Rogan 3:40 Right.

Kristin Beck 3:40 ... is basically that.

Joe Rogan 3:41 Yeah.

Kristin Beck 3:41 And the weight of that water you displace, that's your buoyancy. So if you displace more water and it weighs more than you, that means you're lighter than the amount of water you displaced.

Joe Rogan 3:50 Uh-huh.

Kristin Beck 3:50 That means you'll float.

Joe Rogan 3:51 Right.

Kristin Beck 3:52 Now, if the water you displaced is, is less than your weight, then you're gonna sink. It's just buoyancy.

Joe Rogan 3:57 Right.

Kristin Beck 3:57 And so if you drop an apple from 30,000 feet ... That's how high we used to jump for SEAL teams.

Joe Rogan 4:03 Oh, really?

Kristin Beck 4:03 The long jumps. We can talk about that later.

Joe Rogan 4:05 Damn. 30,000 feet?

Kristin Beck 4:06 But yeah, it was fun stuff.

Joe Rogan 4:07 That's crazy.

Kristin Beck 4:07 But if you drop an apple-

Joe Rogan 4:09 That's airplane height.

Kristin Beck 4:09 Yeah. You have to love that.

Joe Rogan 4:09 That's, like, real airplane height, like Delta flights. (laughs)

Kristin Beck 4:12 It's, it's mission. Yeah, Delta.

Joe Rogan 4:13 Yeah. Like, for real.

Kristin Beck 4:14 Well, SEAL teams do it too, not just-

Joe Rogan 4:15 Amer- ... I know, but I mean American Airlines Delta.

Kristin Beck 4:17 (laughs) I know.

Joe Rogan 4:17 That kind of Delta.

Kristin Beck 4:18 Yeah. Those guys are cool though, man. I love the guys at

Narrator 4:20 I think this is what we're looking for, yeah.

Joe Rogan 4:23 Okay. So it says, uh, I don't know how you say that word. A perigeon? Pe- how does it, how do you say that word?

Kristin Beck 4:29 Perigeum.

Joe Rogan 4:30 Perigeum?

Kristin Beck 4:31 Perigeum.

Joe Rogan 4:31 "Perigeum spring tide occurs when the moon is either new or full and closest to Earth." And so what does it have to do ... Where does it say anything about gravity?

Narrator 4:41 Uh, well, uh, I can give you another one, I guess. Here.

Joe Rogan 4:43 Does it have anything where it explains the amount of effect that the gravity has?

Narrator 4:48 There you go. The moon's pull ............................

Joe Rogan 4:49 Okay. So the moon's gravitational pull, high tide, low tide. So during high tide, the moon's gravitational pull does affect the, the tides?

Kristin Beck 5:00 That's what the religion called scientists on.

Joe Rogan 5:02 This is not an article though.

Kristin Beck 5:03 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 5:03 This is just an image. Do ... Can we get a-

Narrator 5:04 Right. Well, that's what I was trying to f- I mean ...

Joe Rogan 5:05 Is there anything that shows it?

Narrator 5:07 I thought that would be a quicker way to do it for-

Joe Rogan 5:08 It seems like there's something to it.

Kristin Beck 5:09 On the-

Joe Rogan 5:09 We're so dumb, we need cartoons now. (laughs)

Narrator 5:11 That's right. I just thought it would be easier to go that way.

Kristin Beck 5:13 But Joe, Joe-

Narrator 5:13 Just so I can go over here and...

Kristin Beck 5:14 ... all this stuff up there, this is all put out by scientists who have been talking about, you know-

Joe Rogan 5:19 Right.

Kristin Beck 5:19 ... Copernicus and everything else for the last, you know, however many years. Since what? 13 something now?

Joe Rogan 5:24 Well, let, well let's just s- read what the answer is. It says, "High and low tides are caused by the moon. The moon's gravitational pull generates something called the tidal force. The tidal force causes Earth and its water to bulge out on the side closest to the moon and the side furthest from the moon. These bulges of water are high tides." So it is because of gravity, which is amazing. So that ... What I'm getting at is everybody likes to pooh-pooh the idea that someone can figure out what happens if someone's born during a given time of the year.

Kristin Beck 5:57 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 5:57 But if the moon has so much of an effect-... that it changes tides. It moves-

Kristin Beck 6:03 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 6:04 How many, how many fucking gallons of water are we talking about, right?

Kristin Beck 6:08 5 or 6. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 6:09 (laughs) It's a, it's a-

Kristin Beck 6:10 It's a lot.

Joe Rogan 6:10 ... lot of goddamn water-

Kristin Beck 6:11 Just shitting on water.

Joe Rogan 6:11 ... and the gravity of the moon is moving that shit.

Kristin Beck 6:14 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 6:15 Like, why wouldn't we assume that Jupiter and what position Jupiter is in the sky-

Kristin Beck 6:20 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 6:20 ... or Mars is in the sky, that all must have some-

Kristin Beck 6:23 Affect.

Joe Rogan 6:23 ... kind of an effect on something. And if we're-

Kristin Beck 6:25 100%.

Joe Rogan 6:25 And if we're water, like we're kind of mostly water, aren't we? Like 60-

Kristin Beck 6:29 Not i-

Joe Rogan 6:30 ... something percent water?

Kristin Beck 6:30 Yeah, we're-

Joe Rogan 6:31 What is the number percent water people are?

Kristin Beck 6:33 We're like 78% or something.

Joe Rogan 6:35 It probably affects you.

Kristin Beck 6:37 It's a lot, yeah.

Joe Rogan 6:37 It probably affects your fucking swimming pool. If you have a swimming pool, it probably moves a little.

Kristin Beck 6:41 Yeah. Well, here's something funny, though. You brought up swimming pool. You know the Great Lakes, how big the Great Lakes are?

Joe Rogan 6:46 Yeah.

Kristin Beck 6:47 How come none of the Great Lakes has tides?

Joe Rogan 6:50 Uh, that's a good question. They do-

Kristin Beck 6:51 So the moon and the sun can't move the water in the Great Lakes, but it can move the oceans?

Joe Rogan 6:54 But they do have crazy waves. In adult men, about 60% of their bodies are water.

Kristin Beck 6:59 I think it's 70 or 60.

Joe Rogan 6:59 However, fat tissue does not have as much water as lean tissue. In adult women, fat makes up more of the body than men, so they have about 55% of their bodies made of water. That's so true because, uh, big muscular guys that cut weight for the UFC-

Kristin Beck 7:13 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 7:13 ... they can cut a lot more weight 'cause they're storing it in their muscles.

Kristin Beck 7:17 Ah, okay.

Joe Rogan 7:17 Like, big Yoel Romero-looking dudes-

Kristin Beck 7:19 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 7:19 ... those guys can cut a ton of weight 'cause they have so much muscle. It's the guys who are leaner that have a, a really hard time with it.

Kristin Beck 7:25 Yeah. That makes sense.

Joe Rogan 7:27 So, anyway, so this thing is a chart that they do of you, and it's dedic- it's, it's based on what time you were born and where in the world you were born.

Kristin Beck 7:35 Exactly, uh, yeah, right, the geocache.

Joe Rogan 7:36 And so do they match this up with some sort of a, a-

Kristin Beck 7:40 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 7:40 ... astronomical map of the stars?

Kristin Beck 7:43 I wish I had mine. So he draws it all out and he does the entire astral plane, all of it, every planet, all of the... Like, even comets, like you have everything in there, anything that was in that area for that... Whatever he does, and he reads all of it. And there's like 10 things for each one of the planets, so you can go and do it and he put it all together.

Joe Rogan 8:04 Mm-hmm.

Kristin Beck 8:04 And so what he was saying was I'm gonna have a really tough life and I'm gonna have to go to the underworld. And, uh, do you know what a Heyoka is?

Joe Rogan 8:11 Sure, yeah, Sacred Clown.

Kristin Beck 8:12 It's actually Sacred Clown, yeah.

Joe Rogan 8:13 Yeah.

Kristin Beck 8:13 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 8:13 It's the name of my comedy tour.

Kristin Beck 8:14 I was just told that, uh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 8:16 Yeah.

Kristin Beck 8:16 Sacred Clown. So when he talked about Heyoka, there was also, uh-

Joe Rogan 8:18 Explain that to people. You wanna explain that, what their concept is?

Kristin Beck 8:21 So the concept is, is the, uh... It was not a court jester 'cause c- court jesters, all they're doing is being funny and goofy. The Heyokas and the Thayils and the Sacred Clowns and all these were actually religious leaders in the community, but also have the ability to speak and say whatever they wanted. And that's like comedians up on stage. When you have like a Chappelle and who was it, Chris Rock and all those other guys, they're up there telling jokes, and we should probably talk about this too later on, maybe about the whole transgender and all the other stuff. People are getting busted for doing jokes for being a Heyoka. Heyoka's purpose is to mess with our heads a little bit and make us think.

Joe Rogan 8:59 Yeah.

Kristin Beck 8:59 You know?

Joe Rogan 8:59 That was their... The L- Lakotas' idea was that everything should be tested.

Kristin Beck 9:03 Yeah. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 9:03 And w- one of the ways to test ideas is to poke at it and make fun of it.

Kristin Beck 9:07 Yeah. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 9:08 Like, there's certain things you, you can't make fun of, but-

Kristin Beck 9:11 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 9:11 ... there's certain things that don't want you to make fun of them.

Kristin Beck 9:14 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 9:14 And y- maybe you should a little bit.

Kristin Beck 9:16 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 9:16 It's good for everybody to get made fun of a little bit.

Kristin Beck 9:18 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 9:18 It's just what is, uh, what is the purpose of it in our society today?

Kristin Beck 9:24 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 9:24 You know, that's where it becomes like a question, like are you allowed to joke around about certain subjects-

Kristin Beck 9:29 Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 9:29 ... or are you gonna get upset? And, and, and it varies with people too. It's like-

Kristin Beck 9:33 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 9:33 ... some people don't get upset at all and some people get furious-

Kristin Beck 9:37 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 9:37 ... if you even breach subjects, you know, which is I don't think good for anybody.

Kristin Beck 9:41 For those people wh- who get so upset about those jokes or about all the stuff, how weak are they that they're gonna let that affect them to such a point where they get so angry that they attack? That's the-

Joe Rogan 9:54 I think people feel different today. You and I are kind of the same age.

Kristin Beck 9:58 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 9:58 And, um, I think people feel very different today about their feelings and they feel very differently today about what it is when someone insults their feelings.

Kristin Beck 10:07 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 10:08 When we were kids, it was super normal for people to insult your feelings.

Kristin Beck 10:12 (laughs) Yeah.

Joe Rogan 10:13 And I don't know if that's good or bad because it's like as I get older, um, one of the things I realized is like, um, my mom, uh, was the child of immigrants-

Kristin Beck 10:24 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 10:24 ... and y- I think like s- that, those generations of people that first came over here, like in the 1940s and the 1920s-

Kristin Beck 10:32 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 10:32 ... they, they had such a hard, scrambled life, man-

Kristin Beck 10:36 Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 10:36 ... that they maybe weren't the nicest people to their kids, you know. It's like there was a lot of like-

Kristin Beck 10:41 That's true.

Joe Rogan 10:41 ... beating your kid if your kid did something wrong. Like, every kid got hit back then.

Kristin Beck 10:45 We all got hit. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 10:45 Everybody got hit.

Kristin Beck 10:46 And we all deserved it. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 10:48 But it's weird. It's like I don't think you should hit your children. I think we know now that it's not a good idea because it, it really perpetuates more violence and it also sends a message that that's the only way to handle something-

Kristin Beck 10:59 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 10:59 ... is to put physical pain and, and, you know, inflict it on your child, which I don't necessarily think is the right way to do it. But I do think that there's something about a little bit of adversity, a little bit of disagreement, a little bit of a... It's like it, it makes you more relaxed around that stuff.

Kristin Beck 11:19 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 11:19 Whereas with some people today, anything that they think is offensive is a such an egregious, you know, crime on humanity and they, they wanna attack you with every fiber of their being. It's like-

Kristin Beck 11:31 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 11:31 ... what is going on for real, though? You just like, you have such a hard time with like... Especially the Dave Chappelle special, like why don't you tell me what he said that was so awful? 'Cause that was part of the problem was nobody was saying what specifically he said-

Kristin Beck 11:45 They never will.

Joe Rogan 11:45 ... which was so horrific. But in this case-

Kristin Beck 11:47 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 11:47 ... they really couldn't because it was really a love letter to his friend. I mean, that's like-

Kristin Beck 11:51 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 11:51 ... with the last part of it-

Kristin Beck 11:53 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 11:53 ... is basically like he took his friend who killed herself and he put her as the closing piece of a gigantic comedy special that everyone's gonna see.

Kristin Beck 12:02 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 12:03 And he, he did it with dignity and he did it with kindness-

Kristin Beck 12:06 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 12:06 ... and he did it with true friendship.

Kristin Beck 12:08 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 12:08 And it still-... still, people are furious.

Kristin Beck 12:11 They don't get attacked. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 12:12 Still. It's just one of those things, man. The concept of the heyokah, I think, uh, I think we could all use a little of that in our lives.

Kristin Beck 12:21 We could all-

Joe Rogan 12:21 That doesn't mean you have to be mean.

Kristin Beck 12:23 Why couldn't everybody use a little bit of it?

Joe Rogan 12:24 Yes.

Kristin Beck 12:25 You know?

Joe Rogan 12:25 Everybody needs it and nee- everybody needs a little, a little humor, a little mocking-

Kristin Beck 12:29 But there was a time, the sacred clown, like you were saying, the heyokah, that this is medicine. So, and that's why it was like a duty of the medicine people and historians-

Joe Rogan 12:37 Yeah.

Kristin Beck 12:37 ... 'cause, and that was basically, uh, in the Viking culture, they're called thyles. I don't know if I'm pronouncing it correctly. It's like T-H- T-H-Y-L-E something.

Joe Rogan 12:44 Yeah.

Kristin Beck 12:45 But they're the ex- exact duplicate of what a heyokah or a sacred clown or any of those... It's, uh, amongst all those tribal communities from back in those days, they all had those positions. You know, it's like James Campbell or, or Jung, the archetypes, you know?

Joe Rogan 13:00 Yeah.

Kristin Beck 13:00 You always have that medicine person archetype within any culture. And back in those days, that medicine person archetype was part of that poking the bear and making sure the king knew you're not wearing clothes.

Joe Rogan 13:12 Right.

Kristin Beck 13:12 You know, "Hey, you're doing that wrong. Hey, this is messed up" and make a joke out of it, make it kind of funny so the king is not offended. And everybody goes, "Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's true. Yeah."

Joe Rogan 13:20 How many jesters do you think were assassinated?

Kristin Beck 13:22 Probably a lot. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 13:24 (laughs)

Kristin Beck 13:24 That had to be the riskiest job.

Joe Rogan 13:26 Oh, my God. You're trying to make a fucking king laugh.

Kristin Beck 13:28 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 13:29 What if you're annoying and he just decides to kill you in front of everybody?

Kristin Beck 13:33 Is that what's happening with cancel culture right now?

Joe Rogan 13:35 No, it's a different thing.

Kristin Beck 13:36 Is cancel culture the king?

Joe Rogan 13:37 It's, it's a different thing.

Kristin Beck 13:38 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 13:38 But the, no, it's just the, the absolute power of a king-

Kristin Beck 13:41 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 13:42 ... to just kill somebody if they don't like what they're doing. Like, that was one of the weirdest things about Game of Thrones and that kind of shit. When they would cut people's heads off and stuff, you'd be like, "Yeah, I could see people doing that." I could see-

Kristin Beck 13:52 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 13:52 ... someone who had total control just killing someone 'cause they don't like their joke.

Kristin Beck 13:55 That evil little blonde-haired guy.

Joe Rogan 13:57 Yeah, that little fuck.

Kristin Beck 13:58 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 13:59 Yeah.

Kristin Beck 13:59 I can't remember his name.

Joe Rogan 13:59 I can see him do it. Yeah.

Kristin Beck 14:00 Dazed.

Joe Rogan 14:00 The Sun. Yeah.

Kristin Beck 14:02 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:02 It's, uh, it's like, uh, whatever it is about human nature-

Kristin Beck 14:06 Yep.

Joe Rogan 14:06 ... that there's, there's like certain places that people can go to.

Kristin Beck 14:11 Here's a question for you. When you were talking earlier about our age group, so we're, our, like X generation or we're-

Joe Rogan 14:18 Yeah.

Kristin Beck 14:18 ... like the, I'm at the tail end of the baby boomers, right at the beginning of X. So, we grew up in a community, you know, if we were doing something wrong, any parent in the neighborhood could give you a whack. You know, everybody was out playing, doing whatever you want, but we were always in these big groups-

Joe Rogan 14:31 Yeah, people hit other people's kids. (laughs)

Kristin Beck 14:33 (laughs) Yeah. It was, but that's what it was, you know. You're gonna be out-

Joe Rogan 14:37 Oh.

Kristin Beck 14:37 ... until the streetlights turn on and if somebody, you know, don't do anything wrong 'cause you're gonna get whacked by an older kid or a parent.

Joe Rogan 14:42 Yeah. Someone was gonna s-

Kristin Beck 14:44 'Cause-

Joe Rogan 14:44 ... straighten you out.

Kristin Beck 14:44 But it was a big group. It was like a collective. It was, we had like realities were different than today's realities.

Joe Rogan 14:49 Yeah.

Kristin Beck 14:50 Today, they're so individualistic and they're so, everything is subjective. Everything is relative and so that makes nothing as true.

Joe Rogan 14:57 Mm.

Kristin Beck 14:58 Because if you think about, if everything's subjective, in a subjective reality, what's true?

Joe Rogan 15:04 I know what you're saying.

Kristin Beck 15:06 So, I lived in objective reality, so did you because we grew up in like this, a very religious, very red, white and blue America. We're a great country. We don't do everything right, but we're pretty darn good. And that was in all our heads. It was Pledge of Allegiance in the morning. So, we all had like this, this truth, this thing that we knew was true.

Joe Rogan 15:25 Mm-hmm.

Kristin Beck 15:25 God is there, and God bless America, and America is awesome, and here we are and let's get on with business. You know, and that's the way I saw it. Now, if you look at the kids growing up today, they don't have any of that. They don't have, there's no religion anywhere near them, pretty much. They're on social media all the time by themselves, so it's all about individualism. It's all about subjective. It's even going into the words. When we start talking about gender stuff and some stuff maybe later after we get some of this background stuff down. But they're taking words and they're even making a word subjective. So now, we don't, we no longer have just male and female. We have 100 other things. And who knows, in another year or two, there's gonna be 1,000 more genders.

Joe Rogan 16:08 Well, isn't that one of those things-

Kristin Beck 16:10 All subjective.

Joe Rogan 16:10 ... where pe- yeah, but all, people always want something in their head that other people don't have. And if you could just change names of a thing and decide you're a xir or you're a, a z- have you ever seen those TikTok videos where people describe the type of sex they are?

Kristin Beck 16:29 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 16:29 And they say it in like-

Kristin Beck 16:31 It's ridiculous.

Joe Rogan 16:31 ... with some, some crazy thing, like, "I'm only attracted to someone with one sock on."

Kristin Beck 16:35 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 16:35 You know, like, they'll, they'll say that like that's the type of sexual they are, like one sock-o-sexual. They're, it's, it's, it's, it, there's a certain level of indulgence when it gets to that, right? But like, w- who are we to draw the line? That's the problem. And it's like without that thing, that structure of, you know, "I believe in God, I believe in country, and I believe in, you know, in th- the United States is an awesome place."

Kristin Beck 16:59 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 17:00 Like, none of those things are bad things to say. But if you say those things, people associate it with bad... It's almost like we're ashamed of ourselves, right?

Kristin Beck 17:06 It's ridiculous, yeah.

Joe Rogan 17:07 If you s- but if you say that to a lot of people in America today-

Kristin Beck 17:09 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 17:09 ... and say it that way, they'll genuinely be like almost insulted.

Kristin Beck 17:15 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 17:15 Like it s- it sounds like if they had to say that or they had to think that, they'd be like, "I'm not saying that." Like, "We've done some horrible things. America's terrible. I mean-"

Kristin Beck 17:23 That's what I said. We've done bad stuff.

Joe Rogan 17:25 Yeah.

Kristin Beck 17:25 We're not always right.

Joe Rogan 17:26 But there's-

Kristin Beck 17:26 But overall, we're pretty damn good.

Joe Rogan 17:28 There's a lack of r- an, an appreciation for that's just how humans operate.

Kristin Beck 17:32 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 17:33 And it's not that the United States is wholly bad, it's that people are fucked up. This is about as good as it's ever been.

Kristin Beck 17:39 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 17:39 This, this right here, this craziness, you know, this is about as good as people have ever lived.

Kristin Beck 17:45 Wow. It's sad.

Joe Rogan 17:46 It's, it's fucked up. Yeah, but it isn't-

Kristin Beck 17:47 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 17:48 ... because it's not the Mongol hordes.

Kristin Beck 17:50 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 17:50 You know, it's not people fighting off barbarians. It's like we were doing better when we had a little bit better, you know-

Kristin Beck 17:57 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 17:57 ... appreciation for law enforcement and-

Kristin Beck 17:59 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 18:00 ... there was, uh, there's just, it seems like the pandemic fucked a lot of people over, too. I would, it would have been interesting to see, like where we could have gotten as a culture 'cause I think like culture accelerates pretty quickly these days.

Kristin Beck 18:11 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 18:12 And it would be interesting to see where we would have gotten if it hadn't been for the pandemic.... I think we probably wouldn't have been so anxiety ridden. I think that's a big part of what we're experiencing now is like the-

Kristin Beck 18:22 A lot, yeah.

Joe Rogan 18:22 ... the aftershock-

Kristin Beck 18:23 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 18:24 ... of the pandemic.

Kristin Beck 18:25 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 18:25 People who lost friends and people who got injured and, you know, or, or got wrecked by it.

Kristin Beck 18:31 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 18:31 There's a lot of that still in the air like, "Whoa, what the fuck happened?" And then also there's like a, a distrust for like, "How did this happen?"

Kristin Beck 18:38 A huge distrust.

Joe Rogan 18:39 "Tell me the fucking tru- but t- tell me the truth how did this fucking happen?"

Kristin Beck 18:42 "Did government?"

Joe Rogan 18:42 Because no one-

Kristin Beck 18:42 "I don't trust them."

Joe Rogan 18:43 Right. But no one gets this f- really sure fire-

Kristin Beck 18:47 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 18:48 ... solu- like no one, no one presents anything to me where I go, "Well, that's definitely-"

Kristin Beck 18:52 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 18:52 "... how it happened. No need to worry about the lab leak."

Kristin Beck 18:54 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 18:55 Everything seems to me-

Kristin Beck 18:56 It's all hidden and weird and yeah.

Joe Rogan 18:57 ... to m- it just seems to make way more sense that it came from a fucking lab. It acts like a virus from a lab.

Kristin Beck 19:03 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 19:03 Right? Did you get it? Did you get COVID?

Kristin Beck 19:06 That's what it appears. I don't know.

Joe Rogan 19:07 Everybody that-

Kristin Beck 19:07 Because I don't trust the tests. It's like that PCR test, I don't really know if it's really testing for COVID or a regular flu.

Joe Rogan 19:14 Well, that's interesting, right? Isn't there some, there's some crossover in the way it tests, like some, some mistakes?

Kristin Beck 19:21 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 19:21 Isn't that the case?

Kristin Beck 19:21 Yeah. Yeah, they did say that.

Joe Rogan 19:23 When did they figure... Was that because of the amount of cycles they were running? Because I remember there was, um, a thing where they were saying they were running 40 cycles at one point in time and then they switched it and lowered it because they were getting too many false positives.

Kristin Beck 19:34 Too many falses, yeah.

Joe Rogan 19:36 The guy Kary Mullis who, um, invented that-

Kristin Beck 19:40 Invented PCR, yeah.

Joe Rogan 19:41 ... PCR.

Kristin Beck 19:41 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 19:41 He did not think it was a good idea for testing viruses that way.

Kristin Beck 19:44 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 19:44 He, there's like an interview where he's discussing it.

Kristin Beck 19:46 Yeah. And he gives all the technical data of why.

Joe Rogan 19:48 That it could find and then inert. Yeah.

Kristin Beck 19:50 It's too high.

Joe Rogan 19:50 Doesn't necessarily mean it's... Because it's so high you could just find stuff in you.

Kristin Beck 19:54 It'll always pop positive.

Joe Rogan 19:55 Yeah. Well, I don't know if always, but-

Kristin Beck 19:57 Unless they dial it way down.

Joe Rogan 19:59 Yeah. But it's, it's like, it's not... You're, you're not at risk for developing the disease necessarily.

Kristin Beck 20:05 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 20:05 But it's also back then nobody knew.

Kristin Beck 20:08 But you nailed it too. It's just like, just tell us something that's true.

Joe Rogan 20:12 Yeah.

Kristin Beck 20:12 Something I can hold on to.

Joe Rogan 20:13 I don't think they want to tell us that it came from a fucking lab.

Kristin Beck 20:16 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 20:16 If they 100% knew it came from a lab, I still think they'd be like, "The results are inconclusive," because it's just like too terrifying for people to know that something that killed millions of people came out of a lab. Like that is-

Kristin Beck 20:28 But-

Joe Rogan 20:29 That's wild shit.

Kristin Beck 20:30 But in the back, in the back of our minds, don't we all know it came from a lab?

Joe Rogan 20:34 (sighs) Oh boy.

Kristin Beck 20:35 We've been messing with these viruses and stuff forever. It's a military.

Joe Rogan 20:38 I can never say I know for sure, but, um, the people that I've talked to know for sure. (laughs)

Kristin Beck 20:43 Look up Fort Meade. I'm pretty sure it's Fort Meade. But there's like... I mean there's, there's stuff that we've done in the US military-

Joe Rogan 20:49 Mm-hmm.

Kristin Beck 20:50 ... at all these bio labs-

Joe Rogan 20:52 Yeah.

Kristin Beck 20:52 ... since like World War I, yeah.

Joe Rogan 20:54 Well, we've definitely had these crazy labs. We went to visit one. I went to visit one with Duncan Trussell. We went to the one in Galveston, the CDC whatever it is.

Kristin Beck 21:01 Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 21:03 Dude, it's terrifying.

Kristin Beck 21:04 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 21:04 You're, you're behind all these walls of glass and you get to see people in there with the fucking suits on. There's tubes. You're like, "Yikes, this is crazy." And that... But you know what he was saying? He's saying the, the worry is not about, um, uh, someone developing something. This is interesting in retrospect because this was like back in 2012 I think it was.

Kristin Beck 21:24 Okay.

Joe Rogan 21:25 He said the real fear is a, a natural event, like something happening from, uh, agriculture, like a, like a pig farm or something like that.

Kristin Beck 21:33 Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 21:33 That's where a lot of them come from.

Kristin Beck 21:35 Wow.

Joe Rogan 21:35 He's like, "That's, that's what we really have to be worried about."

Kristin Beck 21:39 Yeah. Earlier when we were talking about the kids growing up, all that-

Joe Rogan 21:42 Yeah.

Kristin Beck 21:42 ... the one thing that I think that we both spoke about, we didn't say the word, it's just respect.

Joe Rogan 21:47 Yeah, that's true too. That's one thing that people have out here. Like kids say sir to you.

Kristin Beck 21:52 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 21:52 They're like very respectful.

Kristin Beck 21:53 I like that. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 21:53 People raise like respectful people out here. Yeah, there's something to that, man. It's like what you were saying about the, the, the whole thing about like what's missing, you know, is the-

Kristin Beck 22:07 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 22:07 ... the respectful thing but also like the being upset at almost everything and anything. It's the ability to express yourself so-

Kristin Beck 22:14 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 22:15 ... like impulsively on a phone. Like anybody can just express himself. And then they're in an argument with someone who disagrees and then they're just like, and they're just doing it back and forth all day.

Kristin Beck 22:22 It's an unknown entity on the other end of some follower that-

Joe Rogan 22:25 Yes.

Kristin Beck 22:25 ... "You're not even in my follower group. You're not even part of my circle. I don't care what you say." (laughs) It's just-

Joe Rogan 22:30 It's really, it's really interesting because there's so much fucking information that's flying around. Like, like we were talking about earlier, like I don't know if that shit works where they can pinpoint where you were born, at the time you were born and figure how it all lines up with the constellations-

Kristin Beck 22:44 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 22:44 ... and have some sort of an effect on you. But-

Kristin Beck 22:48 But when he was reading all this stuff-

Joe Rogan 22:48 ... it doesn't seem totally unreasonable.

Kristin Beck 22:50 Man, when he was going over all those charts, I kept going, "Yeah, that's true."

Joe Rogan 22:53 So the charts were like-

Kristin Beck 22:54 "Yeah, that's true."

Joe Rogan 22:55 ... saying that you're gonna have a fucked up life because of all the data that they were getting from this reading.

Kristin Beck 23:00 Yeah. Wow.

Joe Rogan 23:00 That's wild.

Kristin Beck 23:00 He just like when he read it through there, he says, "You have a couple paths and it looks like you're gonna have a really tough one. This whole area here..." And he just kept going through why and he was showing me the planets and talking through it. It was the craziest couple hours I've ever had.

Joe Rogan 23:14 So when you say you don't believe in gravity, but you really do believe in gravity, right?

Kristin Beck 23:17 Oh yeah, gravity exists.

Joe Rogan 23:19 Yeah.

Kristin Beck 23:19 I just don't like calling it gravity because it's still a theory.

Joe Rogan 23:22 Oh.

Kristin Beck 23:22 I just think that it's about buoyancy. The reason I'm not going through this floor right now is because I am less dense than this floor. The reason that apple-

Joe Rogan 23:29 Mm.

Kristin Beck 23:29 ... goes through the atmosphere, the apple is heavier than the atmosphere until it gets to the water. But it's lighter than the water for, you know, if you do-

Joe Rogan 23:37 Right.

Kristin Beck 23:37 ... Archimedes' principle and all of it, everything can be explained by, by buoyancy.

Joe Rogan 23:42 I see what you're saying but, but both maybe.

Kristin Beck 23:46 Maybe both.

Joe Rogan 23:47 Yeah.

Kristin Beck 23:48 But that unknown force we got rid of.

Joe Rogan 23:50 For sure like we have the apple displaces the air.

Kristin Beck 23:53 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 23:53 Yeah, and falls to the ground. But it's also getting sucked into the ground by gravity, like both those things are real.

Kristin Beck 23:59 Something else is going on.

Joe Rogan 24:01 Something else?

Kristin Beck 24:01 And I, I just... I think it's like the ether. It's the... And it was something that Tesla went into really big too, was that other substance. And then Einstein I think is the one that messed all this up because they started changing the name of it and trying to write away the ether and it had a few different names for it-

Joe Rogan 24:17 Hmm.

Kristin Beck 24:17 ... but it's basically the, it's the stuff that's in between all the atoms.

Joe Rogan 24:22 Did they know...... what causes gravity? Can they tell you-

Kristin Beck 24:25 No.

Joe Rogan 24:25 ... like, exact what causes gravity? They know it has to do with mass, right?

Kristin Beck 24:28 They cannot explain gravity.

Joe Rogan 24:30 What'd you say, Jamie?

Narrator 24:31 Don't look at me for this one.

Kristin Beck 24:32 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 24:32 Come on, bitch.

Kristin Beck 24:33 Come on, scientist.

Joe Rogan 24:33 You're the guy who got a A in physics.

Kristin Beck 24:35 (splurts) (laughs) well-

Joe Rogan 24:37 I mean, isn't it a thing where they can measure, like they can look at the mass of a planet, and they can say how much gravity-

Kristin Beck 24:43 There's like the-

Joe Rogan 24:44 ... like, right?

Kristin Beck 24:45 Your high-

Joe Rogan 24:45 Isn't that true?

Narrator 24:46 There's m-... There's formulas for the stuff, yes.

Joe Rogan 24:48 That's... Isn't that why the earth... Like when you go to the moon, you're really light 'cause the moon has like one-sixth of Earth's gravity?

Kristin Beck 24:54 If you have the planet right here-

Joe Rogan 24:55 Okay.

Kristin Beck 24:56 ... it's gonna cause the-

Joe Rogan 24:57 There's a draw-

Kristin Beck 24:58 ... like time... For the time plane-

Joe Rogan 24:59 For the folks that are just listening, Kristen made a drawing.

Kristin Beck 25:01 There's a, there's a, there's a time-space continuum. All these planes of space, they bend when they go around that object. And so the space actually bends around the earth, and then re-... And it gets flat again.

Joe Rogan 25:13 And with the bigger-

Kristin Beck 25:14 So it makes a hole right here.

Joe Rogan 25:15 Okay. So if it's a bigger object, then it's a bigger curve?

Kristin Beck 25:18 The bigger object, it'll be a bigger hole. Yeah. So if it's really big-

Joe Rogan 25:19 And so that'll make more gravity?

Kristin Beck 25:21 ... it'll be this, more gravity here. So if you're here, and you start falling in that hole that it makes, you're gonna fall into that gravity hole right here. That's how it was explained by Einstein, and, uh, I think it was also by Hawking and a bunch of other ones. They all talked about how the time-space was full... It bends-

Joe Rogan 25:40 Yeah.

Kristin Beck 25:40 ... when it has that large mass.

Joe Rogan 25:42 Well, you know, that's what Bob Lazar said those spaceships do, those spaceships that they were trying to back engineer. He said they're working on this, working off of this element called Element 115, that it was just theoretical. It wasn't even proven that it was a real element until sometime in the 2000s. But he, he was saying this in like 1989.

Kristin Beck 26:03 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 26:03 He's like, "They have a stable form of this Element 115, and it sits in a reactor in the craft." And what this thing does, he said, he likened it to taking a bowling ball and placing it in the center of a mattress.

Kristin Beck 26:17 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 26:18 So like the mattress like... He's like, it like-

Kristin Beck 26:20 It bends in.

Joe Rogan 26:20 ... bends the gravity and instantaneously propels you to a place.

Kristin Beck 26:25 That's cool.

Joe Rogan 26:26 And they were trying to figure out how to make it work.

Kristin Beck 26:28 I want to read on that one.

Joe Rogan 26:29 It's wild shit, man.

Kristin Beck 26:30 That's cool.

Joe Rogan 26:30 Because if they can do that... And why, why wouldn't we assume that that's the next form of travel? If they really do know that at least theoretically it's, it's possible to bend space-

Kristin Beck 26:40 To bend space, yeah.

Joe Rogan 26:41 ... it's theoretically possible. Like there was a movie, what was it? Um, The Event Horizon. You remember that one?

Kristin Beck 26:46 Yeah, that was cool movie, yeah.

Joe Rogan 26:47 It was like a monster movie-

Kristin Beck 26:48 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 26:48 ... in space, and that was the thing.

Kristin Beck 26:49 That was a good movie.

Joe Rogan 26:50 Is like they were gonna be the first people to do it. And so they, they... The way they described it in the movie, it's like you would take like a piece of paper, fold it in half, put a pencil through the center of them-

Kristin Beck 26:58 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 26:58 ... and then unfold it. And like you go through-

Kristin Beck 27:00 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 27:00 ... instantaneously through all that space.

Kristin Beck 27:02 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 27:02 You just have to pick the first two spots.

Kristin Beck 27:03 Yeah. Get to a spot.

Joe Rogan 27:05 They could... They're gonna do that some day.

Narrator 27:06 There's a lot of cool stuff.

Joe Rogan 27:07 They're gonna do that some day. If you just think about what-

Kristin Beck 27:09 But there's something going on besides just the theory of gravity, just saying, and the mass and all that. There's other things going on. And I think that's what Tesla was trying to tap into, and a lot of the other ones that think about the energy fields that all around us.

Joe Rogan 27:21 So there's gravity and there's a bunch of other stuff you're, you're saying.

Kristin Beck 27:23 There's magnetism, and there's a lot of other stuff going on.

Joe Rogan 27:25 Right.

Kristin Beck 27:25 So it's not just one force because the middle of the earth has a magma in its iron core spinning. It's like, how does that work?

Joe Rogan 27:34 But they do know that these planets have a pull on other planets.

Kristin Beck 27:38 Yep, yep.

Joe Rogan 27:39 They do know that. So there's obviously something going on to the theory of gravity. Like there's, there's something going on to large objects pulling things towards them. That's... 'Cause that's why Jupiter saves us. 'Cause if it wasn't for them, the gravity of Jupiter, we'd be fucked, 'cause so many asteroids go slamming into Jupiter because it just sucks them in.

Kristin Beck 27:56 It protects us, yeah.

Joe Rogan 27:56 It's... Yeah, it's bigger than us.

Kristin Beck 27:58 What was that Van Allen belt?

Joe Rogan 28:00 The Van Allen radiation belts.

Kristin Beck 28:01 The radiation belts.

Joe Rogan 28:03 Yeah. Yeah, that's not protecting us from-

Kristin Beck 28:05 But how does that... How do... If you go to the moon, you have to go through those radiation belts, right?

Joe Rogan 28:09 Well, the way they described it is like it's like, um, like a hula hoop, or like... Not a hula hoop, like a barrel but with no top-

Kristin Beck 28:17 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 28:17 ... and no bottom. And you can shoot out the top.

Kristin Beck 28:19 So that's what they do in it, shooting at the top.

Joe Rogan 28:20 And they shoot out the top, and apparently you don't-

Kristin Beck 28:22 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 28:22 ... have to go through the Van Allen radiation belts.

Kristin Beck 28:25 So it'd be at the North and South Pole?

Joe Rogan 28:26 But I've heard shit that if you go through the belts, you can go through the belts because it's a short amount of time with high exposure if you have like a certain amount of protection.

Kristin Beck 28:34 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 28:34 I don't know.

Kristin Beck 28:35 We're going deep into like space and stuff. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 28:36 Well, it's, it's, you know, it's-

Kristin Beck 28:38 It's cool stuff.

Joe Rogan 28:38 ... kind of freaky shit because I've talked to people about it. I said, "Well, what ha-... You know there's like a lot of micrometeors out in, in space, right?" And they're like, "Oh, yeah, they're all over the place." "Well, what happens if you're in a rocket ship and you're going to the moon and you encounter a micrometeor and it, and hits the craft?" He's like, "Well, you're fucking dead." I was like, "So you just take a chance?" Like you have to.

Kristin Beck 28:59 I guess you do. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 29:00 I mean, like a small thing the size of a marble would nuke a fucking spaceship.

Kristin Beck 29:05 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 29:05 Right? Wouldn't it?

Kristin Beck 29:05 Oh, yeah. You'd think.

Joe Rogan 29:07 I would think so.

Kristin Beck 29:07 Going how fast they're going.

Joe Rogan 29:08 They've had some, uh, holes-

Kristin Beck 29:10 They're flying.

Joe Rogan 29:10 ... in the Space Station, right? Haven't they? 'Cause they're just floating around up there.

Kristin Beck 29:14 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 29:14 I think every now and then they get whacked by stuff.

Kristin Beck 29:16 There's gotta be holes in that thing.

Joe Rogan 29:18 Do you remember that movie with Sandra Bullock?

Kristin Beck 29:20 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 29:20 Remember that movie where the little, little piece of junk from space slams into the-

Kristin Beck 29:24 I started watching that. I just couldn't get through it.

Joe Rogan 29:26 No? (laughs)

Kristin Beck 29:26 I started watching. I was like, "Man, this is..."

Joe Rogan 29:29 Oh, look at that piece of space junk-

Kristin Beck 29:31 Boom.

Joe Rogan 29:31 Damages the Space Station, just punched a fucking hole through it.

Kristin Beck 29:34 Jeez.

Joe Rogan 29:35 Phew. That stuff's just floating around up there. We left a bunch of shit up there. (laughs)

Kristin Beck 29:40 Golf balls and weird stuff.

Joe Rogan 29:42 Do you know how many satellites supposed to be flying around? It is so crazy that we did tha- did that without any, like, thought of like what happens in the future when these things start crashing into each other.

Kristin Beck 29:53 Too much junk up there.

Joe Rogan 29:55 I mean, how much... There, there must... What is like the worldwide number of satellites if you had to guess? Take a guess.

Kristin Beck 30:01 Shit. 100,000?

Joe Rogan 30:05 I bet you're right. I bet it's about that. No, I bet it's more. I bet it's 200,000.

Kristin Beck 30:11 Oh, we have all those little micro-satellites too. In the SEAL teams, we had our own little micro-satellites we could shoot up.

Joe Rogan 30:16 How big are those?

Kristin Beck 30:18 That's classified.

Joe Rogan 30:19 Oh. Really?

Kristin Beck 30:20 No, there's some small ones out.

Joe Rogan 30:22 (laughs)

Kristin Beck 30:22 There are, there are some real small ones that you can shoot up.

Narrator 30:24 Did you say 100,000?

Kristin Beck 30:25 Yeah.

Narrator 30:25 Uh, yeah. According to-... the internet. I don't know the source. There's like 8,000 at the most I'm seeing.

Kristin Beck 30:34 That's it?

Narrator 30:35 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 30:36 Really?

Kristin Beck 30:36 Uh, currently flying.

Narrator 30:37 Somewhere between 6,500 and 8,200.

Joe Rogan 30:40 Oh, interesting.

Kristin Beck 30:41 In history?

Narrator 30:41 Depending on when they were, when they count. No, no, no, just current, like, at the moment.

Kristin Beck 30:44 Oh.

Narrator 30:44 Uh-

Kristin Beck 30:44 Just flying up there right now?

Narrator 30:44 Yeah, I was looking into space debris and how much stuff is all total up there, but-

Joe Rogan 30:49 Oh, God.

Narrator 30:49 I think that's like working satellites.

Kristin Beck 30:50 In history, there's gotta be 100,000.

Joe Rogan 30:52 I wonder.

Kristin Beck 30:53 You'd think they'd shoot stuff up there all the time.

Joe Rogan 30:54 Well, uh, but they didn't really start until the '60s though, right? Was that when they started putting satellites up there?

Kristin Beck 31:00 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 31:00 When did they start doing that?

Narrator 31:02 Yeah, they had to be able to carry stuff.

Kristin Beck 31:04 Sputnik was when-

Joe Rogan 31:04 Right.

Kristin Beck 31:05 ... Sputnik was like 1500.

Narrator 31:05 I mean, they s- well, they probably started shooting shit before people obviously, right?

Kristin Beck 31:08 (laughs)

Narrator 31:08 Like, things.

Joe Rogan 31:09 I think so. I don't know. Look it up. (laughs)

Kristin Beck 31:10 Well, Sput- Sputnik was the first one, so Sputnik was '59 or '60s something. Early '60s.

Joe Rogan 31:14 You ever see the movie, Sputnik?

Kristin Beck 31:16 No.

Joe Rogan 31:16 It's fucking dope.

Kristin Beck 31:18 It's pretty cool.

Joe Rogan 31:18 It's a, it's a Russian horror movie-

Kristin Beck 31:20 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 31:20 ... about these guys, these Russian cosmonauts that encounter an alien and then bring it back to the base. It's really fucking good.

Kristin Beck 31:27 (laughs) I wanna watch that.

Joe Rogan 31:28 It's all, it's all dubbed.

Narrator 31:31 That's Sputnik.

Kristin Beck 31:31 Sputnik.

Joe Rogan 31:31 Yeah.

Narrator 31:32 That's the first one, 1957.

Joe Rogan 31:33 Yeah.

Kristin Beck 31:33 '57, I thought it was '59.

Narrator 31:34 Since then, 8,900 satellites from 40 countries have been launched.

Joe Rogan 31:38 Wow.

Kristin Beck 31:39 God, I thought it was way more than that.

Narrator 31:40 5,000 remain in orbit.

Joe Rogan 31:40 I thought it was way more too. Of those-

Kristin Beck 31:42 5,000 remain in orbit-

Narrator 31:43 ... 1,900 are operational.

Joe Rogan 31:44 Yo, that means 3,900 fell from the fucking sky? (laughs)

Kristin Beck 31:48 (laughs)

Narrator 31:48 They're still up there.

Kristin Beck 31:49 Jesus. Duck.

Joe Rogan 31:50 Oh, oh, they're still up there.

Kristin Beck 31:51 (laughs)

Narrator 31:51 Or both, or a little mixture of both.

Joe Rogan 31:52 Oh, so they didn't fall from the sky.

Narrator 31:54 They probably would burn up though on their way in, right?

Joe Rogan 31:56 I wonder. I mean, I wouldn't bet on it. I won- I'm, uh, do they always burn up? Don't chunks of them fall to the ground? That's interesting. Maybe they design them-

Kristin Beck 32:07 I think in this age, they mostly burn up.

Joe Rogan 32:08 Maybe they design them to burn up.

Kristin Beck 32:09 'Cause they don't have the deflector shields and all the ceramic stuff on them.

Joe Rogan 32:13 So they'd really-

Kristin Beck 32:14 So they should-

Joe Rogan 32:14 ... so just going through the atmosphere?

Kristin Beck 32:16 ... probably just burn up, yeah.

Joe Rogan 32:16 How wild is that?

Kristin Beck 32:17 They would have no protection.

Joe Rogan 32:18 How wild is that? They go so fast, they burst into flames.

Kristin Beck 32:21 (laughs)

Narrator 32:21 Yeah, 60% of r- of the rocket bodies and 60 to 90% of satellite mass burn up during atmospheric reentry.

Joe Rogan 32:29 That's still 30% and 10% of rocks coming from fucking space hitting you in the head. That seems kinda crazy.

Kristin Beck 32:37 That'd be a terrible way to die too.

Joe Rogan 32:39 Oh, my God, hit by a satellite?

Kristin Beck 32:40 I don't wanna die by satellite.

Joe Rogan 32:42 Da- have you seen that movie Sputnik, Jamie?

Narrator 32:44 No.

Joe Rogan 32:44 I think it's, uh, uh, closed-captioned now that I'm thinking about it. I don't think it's dubbed.

Kristin Beck 32:48 Was it a straight to DVD f- movie? (laughs)

Joe Rogan 32:49 Um, I think it was, uh, one of those movies that I was-

Narrator 32:52 2020?

Joe Rogan 32:53 Yeah.

Narrator 32:53 Oh, no. Oh, oh.

Kristin Beck 32:54 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 32:54 I was flipping through, um, like, uh, iTunes movies, and I just clicked on it. I was like, "What is this?" And then, it got, it had good reviews, and so I, uh, I watched it, but it's really fucking good, man. It's very interesting, very unique movie.

Kristin Beck 33:11 That's cool.

Joe Rogan 33:12 Like, it's, uh, it's, it's not like it's a ... It's very Russian, but it's not like any horror movie I've ever seen before. It's like a, a complete original, and the storyline behind it is really fascinating.

Kristin Beck 33:26 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 33:27 It's like they wanted to, y- contain this thing and, and do, and do something with it, which is, I think, exactly what people would do if they, if we encountered something from another planet.

Kristin Beck 33:38 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 33:38 They'd prob- I don't think they'd tell us about it.

Kristin Beck 33:40 They probably would never tell us. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 33:41 They wouldn't tell us.

Kristin Beck 33:42 Get it.

Joe Rogan 33:42 Joe Biden ain't telling us shit.

Kristin Beck 33:44 Let's study it. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 33:44 He would lie. (laughs)

Kristin Beck 33:46 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 33:46 He wouldn't tell us about aliens.

Kristin Beck 33:48 Well-

Joe Rogan 33:48 If he's-

Kristin Beck 33:49 Hopefully we didn't get him in trouble. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 33:50 They seem to be talking about it a lot lately, which I tell you, makes me more suspicious.

Kristin Beck 33:56 They're prepping us for o- Project Blue Beam. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 33:59 I just, I feel like I'm being fucked with, like if, if the fucking th- the CIA and NSA and the DEA, they're all telling you about UFOs.

Kristin Beck 34:09 Well, you know what Project Blue Beam is.

Joe Rogan 34:11 What is Tr- Project Bru Beam?

Kristin Beck 34:13 Project Blue Beam.

Joe Rogan 34:14 I knew about the book.

Kristin Beck 34:16 If you look that one up, so, so it's a, it's a UFO project. It's basically ... They didn't really want UFOs. They wanted it to be like a religious something-

Joe Rogan 34:23 Oh.

Kristin Beck 34:24 ... up in the sky, so they can take all these lasers and whatever they're doing, and I think they even use UA- uh, UAVs now. So they fly them all around there, and they can make full, like, solid-looking, you know, objects in the sky-

Joe Rogan 34:35 Really?

Kristin Beck 34:36 ... or anywhere they want. So, uh, a few thought that went up there, Project Blue Beam.

Joe Rogan 34:40 My, my thoughts on this whole UFO thing lately have been like, the more they talk about it, the more I think it's fake. The more-

Kristin Beck 34:46 And the more-

Joe Rogan 34:46 ... they admit that they can't, "We have no idea. These do not come from an earthly source." Like-

Kristin Beck 34:52 But they're prepping us. They're gonna get us ready for Blue Beam, and when they do it, they're gonna say, "I told you, the UFOs."

Joe Rogan 34:57 I think-

Kristin Beck 34:57 And everybody's scared.

Joe Rogan 34:58 I think they can make stuff now that-

Kristin Beck 35:00 They're gonna totally make it.

Joe Rogan 35:01 ... that looks like UFOs. I think they have drones now, I bet, that-

Kristin Beck 35:04 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 35:04 ... are like UFOs. I bet that's a lot of what we're gonna see. I don't think you can, um ... I, I, uh ... There's, you can't know how advanced some military technology is-

Kristin Beck 35:16 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 35:16 ... 'cause it's so interesting how they do it. It's like even though they have a, they have a budget, it's like, how much do they spend? We don't fucking know. We don't have any, like, say-

Kristin Beck 35:25 They're black budget.

Joe Rogan 35:26 Nobody gets to, like ... Imagine if you could vote on what you want your money going to.

Kristin Beck 35:31 That'd be awesome.

Joe Rogan 35:32 Like, you know, how much, how much do you want your money going to military? How much do you want your money to go into education?

Kristin Beck 35:36 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 35:36 How much to infrastructure? And you could just vote that way.

Kristin Beck 35:40 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 35:40 And everybody could vote not just for a candidate, but vote for the, the percentage of your own personal-

Kristin Beck 35:45 Of your taxes.

Joe Rogan 35:45 ... money that you want to go.

Kristin Beck 35:47 That'd be awesome.

Joe Rogan 35:47 You have to pay the same amount in taxes-

Kristin Beck 35:49 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 35:49 ... but you can choose. You can say, "Hey, I'm opposed to war, so I don't wanna donate to that." Or, "I'm opposed to education. I want people stupid. I'm not gonna vote for-" (laughs)

Kristin Beck 35:58 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 35:58 You know, you could ... But we would, we would, I mean, that would be an, that would be ideal, right?

Kristin Beck 36:03 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 36:03 Because then representatives could never not represent their constituents. They would have to d- there was n- that, that wouldn't be on the table.

Kristin Beck 36:11 So the money on the end of the pot.

Joe Rogan 36:11 Yeah.

Kristin Beck 36:11 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 36:12 So then you'd have to figure out what to do with that money because if you need more money for prisons or you need more money for cops or you need more money for teachers, like, you should now make the case.

Kristin Beck 36:22 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 36:23 So if you ever, if everybody gets to vote for everything, that would be really interesting.

Kristin Beck 36:27 That'd be cool.

Joe Rogan 36:28 The problem is people don't have time to learn about stuff.... you know, give, if you're voting for, like, uh, if, is, anything that involves finances-

Kristin Beck 36:37 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 36:37 Most people have-

Kristin Beck 36:38 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 36:38 ... your gl- eyes glaze over. You're barely paying attention to interest rates and-

Kristin Beck 36:42 I was trying to think of what that... What kind of government would that be called?

Joe Rogan 36:45 It's interesting.

Kristin Beck 36:45 It's gotta be even higher than-

Joe Rogan 36:46 Representative government.

Kristin Beck 36:48 Or representative technocracy?

Joe Rogan 36:50 Yeah.

Kristin Beck 36:50 Because we are a technocracy right now.

Joe Rogan 36:52 We are.

Kristin Beck 36:52 You can't deny it.

Joe Rogan 36:53 Yeah, we're definitely. And we're, it's, it's interesting because I think these entities that became a part of the technocracy, these, these immense, uh, tech companies, it was not their idea to do this.

Kristin Beck 37:05 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 37:05 They, they were just, Twitter was just trying to come up with, like, a thing-

Kristin Beck 37:08 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 37:08 ... where you can, like, talk to your friends. Like-

Kristin Beck 37:10 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 37:11 ... uh, uh, in, remember, do you remember-

Kristin Beck 37:11 Facebook was-

Joe Rogan 37:11 ... the old days?

Kristin Beck 37:12 ... "I just wanna hook up with somebody."

Joe Rogan 37:13 Yeah.

Kristin Beck 37:14 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 37:14 The, the, or meet friends from high school and, and, and-

Kristin Beck 37:16 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 37:16 ... meet back up with them.

Kristin Beck 37:17 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 37:18 When, you remember that, when people would poo- put, like, @, like, "@JamieVernon is going to have pizza." Do you remember the earliest days of Twitter?

Kristin Beck 37:26 Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 37:27 That's what people would do.

Kristin Beck 37:27 Oh, God, yeah.

Joe Rogan 37:28 Now, imagine-

Kristin Beck 37:29 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 37:29 ... that that stupid thing-

Kristin Beck 37:30 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 37:31 ... would go on to be, like-

Kristin Beck 37:32 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 37:32 ... the number one source of-

Kristin Beck 37:34 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 37:35 ... information and, and, and-

Kristin Beck 37:36 Of propaganda.

Joe Rogan 37:37 Well, propaganda too-

Kristin Beck 37:39 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 37:39 ... but also of conversations.

Kristin Beck 37:41 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 37:41 Like, the amount of information that gets exchanged-

Kristin Beck 37:44 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 37:44 ... and the amount of people interact with each other on Twitter, it's crazy.

Kristin Beck 37:47 Yeah. It'd be cool to see the numbers.

Joe Rogan 37:49 It's nuts. I don't even th- think they know the numbers. That's what's holding up this Elon Musk deal.

Kristin Beck 37:54 Well, it's crazy. Yeah, those numbers are crazy.

Joe Rogan 37:56 But they don't know the numbers of the fake accounts.

Kristin Beck 37:58 Is that gonna end up being, uh, something with the, uh, SEC? That they were given false numbers-

Joe Rogan 38:04 I don't know.

Kristin Beck 38:04 ... for their...

Joe Rogan 38:05 I don't know how that works. I don't know if they know, 'cause it, it's not whether or not they're false, it's whether or not the, um, the method they use to find out is the most effective method. I don't think-

Kristin Beck 38:17 But if Twitter knew it had false accounts and it had a lot of other false data going through there, and they're saying, "These are our numbers," they were given false numbers, the SEC.

Joe Rogan 38:26 Perhaps, but I don't think that would be with their knowledge. The way it's... It's very complicated, because how do you prove that an account is real?

Kristin Beck 38:34 That would be, yeah.

Joe Rogan 38:35 And there's also a problem, there's people that have real accounts, but they use them like they're not a real account.

Kristin Beck 38:40 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 38:40 So, they have a real account and they log in, but they don't post at all. They just read stuff.

Kristin Beck 38:45 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 38:45 Which is fine, right?

Kristin Beck 38:46 Yeah, that's true. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 38:46 But, and some people don't want to interact with people.

Kristin Beck 38:48 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 38:48 They'd just rather just read other people's opinions on things. Those people would be treated as if they have a fake account.

Kristin Beck 38:53 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 38:53 So, it's like, how do we know?

Kristin Beck 38:55 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 38:55 How do you... Is there a way to know? And I think Elon has proposed some way to know, but I don't know what that is. Um, but the way they do it is, is like, I don't know if you're accurate or not. I don't, I don't think they know. There's, there's accounts that are fake accounts, that are these, um, internet research agency accounts-

Kristin Beck 39:14 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 39:14 ... that they're, like, indistinguishable from regular people.

Kristin Beck 39:17 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 39:17 They're posting memes.

Kristin Beck 39:18 Because they're active in po-... Yeah.

Joe Rogan 39:20 Yeah, they're posting memes, they're commenting on stuff.

Kristin Beck 39:22 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 39:22 They, they're getting people to comment on stuff for, for the account.

Kristin Beck 39:25 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 39:25 And they, you know, they seem real reasonable or they act like a normal person and they're just literally-

Kristin Beck 39:30 It's like robot, AI.

Joe Rogan 39:31 ... like a, it's a fucking... It's not even AI, man. It's a, like, a room full of people-

Kristin Beck 39:34 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 39:35 ... are doing this.

Kristin Beck 39:36 Yeah. The farms.

Joe Rogan 39:37 Yeah, it's wild. Because you can find, like, tweets where you see the same exact wording in, like-

Kristin Beck 39:43 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 39:43 ... multiple accounts. You're like-

Kristin Beck 39:45 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 39:45 ... "Whoa, what the fuck is going on here?"

Kristin Beck 39:47 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 39:47 And then you realize, "Oh, my God, these are bots."

Kristin Beck 39:49 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 39:49 "This is crazy." Like, how many of them are there?

Kristin Beck 39:51 But I, I, I have a couple of accounts and I run my accounts differently. Like, one, I run it super conservative. And I have another one, I run it super liberal. Because-

Joe Rogan 39:59 On purpose?

Kristin Beck 40:00 Yeah. If you-

Joe Rogan 40:01 That's in- that's interesting.

Kristin Beck 40:02 'Cause you should have multiple accounts, 'cause what happens is, there's an underlying program, I'm just gonna call it the Moonraker. So, there's an underlying program under everything, and it's a government program. And in that government program, as soon as they start seeing keywords, it will start pigeonholing you into certain data fields. And it does it. It's like super deep web complicated program, but it will pigeonhole you. And so if you start running something really conservative and making comments and really hitting it hard, you know, on all that stuff and liking it, your account will become more and more conservative. If you have a liberal account and you're doing a lot of liberal stuff on there, and I'm saying, I'm saying Democrat, GOP, whatever, left, right, I do it because I want all the data.

Joe Rogan 40:47 Hmm.

Kristin Beck 40:47 So, I want, I want the knowledge. And the thing is, if you're gonna start pigeonholing me because of stuff I say, then I want to be pigeonholed as far as I can get on that one account. And the same thing for the other one. Now I'm-

Joe Rogan 40:58 Do you have a centrist account? (laughs)

Kristin Beck 41:00 Yeah, I do. So-

Joe Rogan 41:01 So, three accounts?

Kristin Beck 41:02 But, I mean, and there's also a, there's a, there's a place out there, it's a website where it actually takes left, center and right, and it gives you the data from all those places.

Joe Rogan 41:12 Yeah.

Kristin Beck 41:12 It's a really cool comparison website, and it does it for politics.

Joe Rogan 41:15 That's a weird thing about the whole algorithm, that it does sort of curate information to-

Kristin Beck 41:20 It will.

Joe Rogan 41:20 ... and, and it kind of promotes the echo chamber mentality.

Kristin Beck 41:23 Yeah. Echo chamber.

Joe Rogan 41:23 Yeah.

Kristin Beck 41:24 That's what I was trying to get to.

Joe Rogan 41:24 'Cause that's what you're into-

Kristin Beck 41:26 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 41:26 ... so that's what it gives you. And, you know, and it gives you things that you're-

Kristin Beck 41:30 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 41:30 ... you get upset by, because-

Kristin Beck 41:31 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 41:31 ... those are the things you engage with the most.

Kristin Beck 41:33 So, can you imagine if I only had one of those accounts? So, if, if all I had was a conservative account-

Joe Rogan 41:38 Mm-hmm.

Kristin Beck 41:38 ... and that program, I was Moonraked into all of that area, I'm gonna see so much anti-left and so much other stuff, and everything I'm being fed is gonna make me angrier and angrier against the opposite.

Joe Rogan 41:52 Yeah, algorithms-

Kristin Beck 41:52 And it goes both ways.

Joe Rogan 41:54 Algorithms are, are very interesting, because I could see how it would help in some ways, like, it'll suggest things to you-

Kristin Beck 42:03 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 42:03 ... that are interesting, that might be right up, right up your alley.

Kristin Beck 42:07 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 42:07 And that would be, that would be good, you know?

Kristin Beck 42:09 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 42:09 And you'd enjoy the site more.

Kristin Beck 42:10 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 42:10 It's a better product for you.

Kristin Beck 42:12 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 42:12 But then there's the other thing it does-

Kristin Beck 42:14 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 42:14 ... when it comes to opinions, and it locks you in with-

Kristin Beck 42:17 100%.

Joe Rogan 42:17 Yeah. And it gets-

Kristin Beck 42:18 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 42:18 It also, like, seems to s- that sort of-... en- engagement. It's almost like it's, uh, instigating bullshit, instigating disagreements.

Kristin Beck 42:27 It totally does.

Joe Rogan 42:28 Yeah.

Kristin Beck 42:28 And that's what I'm... I don't understand what the reason... What would... Why?

Joe Rogan 42:34 'Cause I think they didn't anticipate it. I think they thought it was gonna do the first thing. I think they thought... Uh, d- everybody's looking for, like, some insidious plan. But I think it's just human nature, and I think what they were doing was showing you the things that you engage with the most.

Kristin Beck 42:47 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 42:47 So, like, Ar- my friend, Ari Shaffir, he did an experiment, and he only viewed puppy videos on, uh, YouTube.

Kristin Beck 42:55 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 42:55 And all YouTube would show him was videos of puppies.

Kristin Beck 42:57 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 42:58 It's because that's what he asked for, right?

Kristin Beck 43:00 (laughs) Yeah, it's kinda like what I did with my mobile account.

Joe Rogan 43:01 But that's... Right, but that's... But that... Yeah.

Kristin Beck 43:03 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 43:03 But he's du-... He just did it for the experiment, as y- as did you.

Kristin Beck 43:06 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 43:06 But if you're that person that clicks on those kind of sh- it's just gonna show you that stuff.

Kristin Beck 43:11 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 43:11 But it's not that it's insidious. It was designed, I think, to enhance the experience. So, if you're looking for, like... You like watching European football, so, like, you're looking for these matches-

Kristin Beck 43:21 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 43:22 ... and then, all of a sudden, it's suggesting all sorts of other matches, and it's like, "Oh, this is great. I don't even have to look for them. They're right there in front of me."

Kristin Beck 43:29 There they are, yeah.

Joe Rogan 43:29 It helps you-

Kristin Beck 43:30 It's a team.

Joe Rogan 43:30 ... you engage the platform more. But then people are so crazy-

Kristin Beck 43:34 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 43:34 ... that what we want to do is get upset by stuff.

Kristin Beck 43:36 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 43:36 And even the w- the world outside...

Kristin Beck 43:37 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 43:37 Like, Bill Hicks used to have a great joke about that, about watching CNN and, uh, uh, about, like, you know, they were talking death, AIDS, disease, death, "Everyone's gonna die," you know? "You'll never live to be 100." Uh, and I forget what the joke was. Then he would open up the door and look outside and be like, "Where the fuck is all this shit happening?"

Kristin Beck 43:54 (laughs) Yeah, "Where's all the death and destruction?"

Joe Rogan 43:55 (laughs) Like, there's birds tweeting and it's like... Uh, the, there's a thing that happens if you focus only on negativity.

Kristin Beck 44:03 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 44:04 And if y- if you only focus on negativity, it's very bad for you. It's not... Uh, you can get too much information, and it's not how you're supposed to re- uh, live as a human. You're not supposed to interface with seven billion people's worth of bullshit.

Kristin Beck 44:20 (laughs) Yeah.

Joe Rogan 44:20 It's just too much. You c- you literally-

Kristin Beck 44:23 It is, yeah.

Joe Rogan 44:23 ... can't exist like that.

Kristin Beck 44:24 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 44:24 It's terrible for you. And there's a lot of people who do that.

Kristin Beck 44:28 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 44:28 And that is one of the things that's heightened us on top of the pandemic. So, you have the pandemic that fucked everybody up-

Kristin Beck 44:35 Yep.

Joe Rogan 44:35 ... and then you have this-

Kristin Beck 44:36 Uh-huh.

Joe Rogan 44:36 ... social media that's sort of naturally accelerating everybody's anxiety and freaking everybody out.

Kristin Beck 44:42 And it's closing in all our echo chambers.

Joe Rogan 44:44 Yeah.

Kristin Beck 44:44 So, if all we're hearing is that one point of view-

Joe Rogan 44:47 Yeah.

Kristin Beck 44:48 ... we're gonna really hate the other side.

Joe Rogan 44:50 Yeah, that's terrible.

Kristin Beck 44:50 And I just think that's what we fell into. Our whole country has fallen into that trap. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 44:54 Just a lot of people that I knew that were, like, f- pretty reasonable people-

Kristin Beck 44:58 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 44:58 ... that, d- during the pandemic especially, just ramped things up to such an extreme. You're like, "My God, m- man, are you okay?" Like, "You're so political."

Kristin Beck 45:07 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 45:07 Like, I go to their, their, their Twitter page and it's just filled with politics stuff.

Kristin Beck 45:12 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, not a lot is good.

Joe Rogan 45:12 It's like, "What are you doing?"

Kristin Beck 45:14 Yeah. It's a whole world though.

Joe Rogan 45:15 It's a world.

Kristin Beck 45:16 It's... We all want to know how...

Joe Rogan 45:17 It's like a baseball fan (laughs) . It's like...

Kristin Beck 45:19 It's the worst.

Joe Rogan 45:19 You know what I mean? Like, you know, baseball fans like, like to read off stats.

Kristin Beck 45:22 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 45:22 These fucking political people, they get really political. It's like y-... Man, d- you're almost like a sports fan.

Kristin Beck 45:27 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 45:27 You're a sports fan for the Democrats.

Kristin Beck 45:29 Maybe it is.

Joe Rogan 45:29 Yeah.

Kristin Beck 45:29 Maybe that's their team. "Hey, go team."

Joe Rogan 45:31 I think... I really think that's what it is. I think there's a real problem in having parties at all.

Kristin Beck 45:36 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 45:36 I think you should just have people with ideas. 'Cause I think when you have parties, it just makes people want to up... Like, if you're on one side, you don't like the other side.

Kristin Beck 45:45 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 45:45 You don't listen to their reasonable ideas. "Fuck them. They're the enemy. We're gonna crush them."

Kristin Beck 45:50 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 45:50 "Come November..." You know? And it's like, that's probably not healthy. It's probably not healthy for the country, because people naturally tend to gravitate towards a team that accepts them, whatever it is.

Kristin Beck 46:02 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 46:02 You know? Like, you, you, you pretend you like things to get in with the cool crowd.

Kristin Beck 46:06 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 46:07 People do that.

Kristin Beck 46:07 They do it all the time.

Joe Rogan 46:08 Yeah. And that's a natural tendency for human beings-

Kristin Beck 46:11 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 46:11 ... to want to be connected to a tribe.

Kristin Beck 46:13 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 46:13 And i- it's like you don't necessarily want that. You kind of want to be able to have a lot of ideas in your head.

Kristin Beck 46:20 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 46:21 You don't want to have to, like, be, like, "If I believe in this, I believe in that," because it's a part of my tribe.

Kristin Beck 46:26 And you hear it from all sides.

Joe Rogan 46:27 Yeah. "Maybe I believe in this, but I think that's dumb."

Kristin Beck 46:29 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 46:29 "Maybe, maybe I think you guys are a little over-sensitive."

Kristin Beck 46:32 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 46:33 Like...

Kristin Beck 46:34 Have you ever heard of loosh traps?

Joe Rogan 46:35 Loose traps?

Kristin Beck 46:36 Loosh.

Joe Rogan 46:37 Loosh.

Kristin Beck 46:37 L-O-O-S-H. Loosh.

Joe Rogan 46:38 No.

Kristin Beck 46:39 Loosh. Loosh trap.

Joe Rogan 46:40 What is that?

Kristin Beck 46:40 So, that's, that's, uh, that's s- uh, a little bit about what I was talking about when we get into those echo chambers, and we get all the negativity, and when a underlying program is constantly feeding us all the information to make us deeper and deeper into our own, you know, nihilistic, you know, self everything. It's just... It's our way to pull in all the data. So, the loosh trap is a, uh... It's a negative. It's, it's piling on all the negative, uh, feelings and negative information and making people get, "Ah."

Joe Rogan 47:10 Mm-hmm.

Kristin Beck 47:10 That anxiety, that angst, that anger. And so, the loosh is actually, uh... It's probably going into, like, religion and spirituality a little bit. But if you believe that there's good in the world, then you also kind of have to believe that there's also the opposite.

Joe Rogan 47:24 Yeah.

Kristin Beck 47:25 If you believe there's that good energy can heal... Like, there was that one experiment they did at some university or somewhere, where everybody got around a thing of water and they'd give good vibrations and good energy to the water. And then they studied the water under a microscope, and the water was in this really cool geometric shape. Then they did the same experiment with some water, and they were angry at it and yelling at it and being mean to it. And the water was all discombobulated and weird-looking. So-

Joe Rogan 47:50 I saw that, but I didn't know if that was bullshit. I was always gonna ask you, Jamie, to look that up.

Kristin Beck 47:54 That'd be a good one to look up.

Joe Rogan 47:55 Yeah.

Kristin Beck 47:56 Because I tell you what... And because we're so much water-

Joe Rogan 47:57 If that, if that's real... If that's real, that's crazy.

Kristin Beck 48:00 67% water-

Joe Rogan 48:01 But if it's not real, that might be just as crazy. It shows how crazy people are that would make something like that up. That's almost more interesting.

Kristin Beck 48:07 But I really think it's true.

Joe Rogan 48:08 I almost wish... Yeah, but I wish it wasn't true now, because then, uh, it's even more fascinating, that someone would make something like that up.

Kristin Beck 48:13 (laughs) Would make it up to be weird like that. (laughs) Where'd you think of that? Yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:16 Dude, I went for, like, forever, for a long time, um, uh, believing that the sky was filled with these flying worms.This is how stupid I am, Kristen. Listen to me.

Kristin Beck 48:28 Wait, you're freaking me out now.

Joe Rogan 48:29 This is how, this is how dumb I am.

Kristin Beck 48:30 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 48:30 I was ge- getting baked, uh, with my friend, Eddie-

Kristin Beck 48:34 Oh.

Joe Rogan 48:35 ... Eddie Bravo, and we would watch these documentaries on these things called rods. This is the one of the dumbest things I've ever done. And I mean, I spent many hours watching these things, like, this is incredible. You can only capture them with high, with f- high-speed cameras. That's not true at all. The, what it really is, is when you have a camera that's filming, like unless it's a super high-speed camera, when a bug flies across it, it shows like a trail.

Kristin Beck 49:00 Oh, okay.

Joe Rogan 49:00 It doesn't just show a bug-

Kristin Beck 49:02 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 49:02 ... like that's moving across the screen. But when they have like a 4K camera-

Kristin Beck 49:06 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 49:06 ... like one of those, like high-definition cameras-

Kristin Beck 49:08 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 49:08 ... then you see it's just a bug. So, this show called, I think it was Monster Hunter.

Kristin Beck 49:11 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 49:12 They, they showed it on TV. I'm like, "Goddamn it, I'm so dumb."

Kristin Beck 49:15 There's worms everywhere.

Joe Rogan 49:16 I believed that there was flying worms in the sky, like-

Kristin Beck 49:19 That's awesome.

Joe Rogan 49:19 ... there's a video of these guys jumping into a cave. They're-

Kristin Beck 49:23 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 49:23 ... parachuting down into a cave in Mexico.

Kristin Beck 49:25 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 49:25 And as they're doing it, these things fly by. These things f- fly under them, and it looks so real. Like, if you're dumb like me and-

Kristin Beck 49:31 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 49:31 ... and you don't understand exposures and cameras-

Kristin Beck 49:33 You keep saying that (laughs)

Joe Rogan 49:34 ... see if you can find that 'cause it's so stupid. Dude, for fucking years, I believed this.

Kristin Beck 49:38 Geez. That's awesome.

Joe Rogan 49:38 I mean, at least a solid two years, I, I, I thought this was real.

Kristin Beck 49:42 I've got a lot-

Joe Rogan 49:42 I watched hours of those documentaries.

Kristin Beck 49:44 ... I have to-

Joe Rogan 49:44 (laughs)

Kristin Beck 49:44 ... look back at my memory and what was something that I believed that was just totally off the wall?

Joe Rogan 49:48 That's the dumbest one. That's the dumbest one of things I believed.

Kristin Beck 49:51 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 49:51 I think the Bigfoot one, I believed Bigfoot for a long time. But I think Bigfoot used to be real. That's what I think. I think-

Kristin Beck 49:58 I don't know if Bigfoot still is.

Joe Rogan 49:58 ... there's too many Native American words, too many Native American words for that animal.

Kristin Beck 50:03 But there's also South American words.

Joe Rogan 50:05 Yeah.

Kristin Beck 50:05 And there's words in, you know, Siberia.

Joe Rogan 50:06 There's also a real animal that existed with humans that's called the Gigantopithecus, and it was a, um, like in the orangutan family, and it was somewhere around eight feet, 10 feet tall. It was huge.

Kristin Beck 50:19 Oh.

Joe Rogan 50:19 There's a photo of, uh, what it would look like repre- because it was a bipedal hominid.

Kristin Beck 50:23 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 50:23 It was a, it was a s- standing upright ape that might have been 10 feet tall.

Kristin Beck 50:27 So s-

Joe Rogan 50:28 And there's a picture of it, like what it would look like if it was like a, a modern human-

Kristin Beck 50:32 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 50:32 ... was standing there next to this thing. It's fucking crazy. This is a real animal.

Kristin Beck 50:35 So why did, why did the Smithsonian destroy all of those huge skulls, the giant skulls and all the giant bones?

Joe Rogan 50:41 What?

Kristin Beck 50:42 All of the 15-foot, 20-foot tall humans?

Joe Rogan 50:44 Oh, you're taking me down a good crazy road.

Kristin Beck 50:45 So 20 to-

Joe Rogan 50:46 Here we go.

Kristin Beck 50:47 ... 10, 15, 20-foot tall humans.

Joe Rogan 50:49 And the Smithsonian destroyed them?

Kristin Beck 50:51 And the Smithsonian destroyed-

Joe Rogan 50:51 Are you sure?

Kristin Beck 50:52 ... all of the skulls and all the skeletons.

Joe Rogan 50:53 Do we... Are you sure they destroyed them?

Kristin Beck 50:55 They were... Yeah. Well, supposedly-

Joe Rogan 50:56 Let's look at this Gigantopithecus first. I'm gonna show you this first.

Kristin Beck 50:58 Okay.

Joe Rogan 50:58 'Cause it's so crazy. Just show me an image of-

Narrator 51:00 I'm gonna force things back and forth now.

Joe Rogan 51:01 I know. I'm sorry. (laughs)

Kristin Beck 51:02 And then, and then-

Narrator 51:03 I got the water thing, but I'll do Gigantopithecus.

Joe Rogan 51:05 Okay.

Kristin Beck 51:05 You did find it?

Joe Rogan 51:06 Should we go to the water thing first?

Narrator 51:06 Well, I don't know.

Kristin Beck 51:07 That's cool, 'cause it's like it's jumping around. It's making shapes.

Narrator 51:09 I don't know. I don't know.

Joe Rogan 51:09 We'll go to the water thing, and then we're gonna c- come back to Bigfoot.

Narrator 51:12 Water thing is pretty tough.

Kristin Beck 51:12 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 51:12 And then we're gonna top it off with, what was the last one?

Kristin Beck 51:15 We could do some rabbit holes.

Narrator 51:16 The water thing is, uh, I tried to look that up pretty qui- it's pretty tough.

Joe Rogan 51:18 Is it tough? Why?

Narrator 51:19 Uh, breaking it d- I couldn't find any sort of science about it, any, any scientific things. So then I went to the, to the Wikipedia of the guy who made the claims. And in this, uh, 2003, James Randi published an invitation to him offering him to take the $1 million paranormal challenge in which he could have received $1 million if he could reproduce the experiment under test conditions, and he did not receive a response.

Joe Rogan 51:42 Oh.

Kristin Beck 51:42 That was the water stuff?

Narrator 51:43 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 51:44 Okay.

Kristin Beck 51:45 Damn.

Narrator 51:45 So it's water stuff, it, it's showing like, uh, snow, you know, like crystals when they turn into snow.

Joe Rogan 51:49 Uh-huh.

Kristin Beck 51:49 Yeah.

Narrator 51:49 And then there's a bunch of other weird pictures, and it, it's just showing pictures. There's no, like science on how to reproduce anything.

Joe Rogan 51:54 Thank God for that James Randi guy.

Kristin Beck 51:56 What about... Look at, what if you look at frequency effects on water?

Narrator 52:00 That's way different.

Kristin Beck 52:01 'Cause the frequency, frequency effects on water-

Narrator 52:04 That's way different than what this was claiming is that you have to like leave water in a jar for 30 days and like talk to it. That's different than-

Kristin Beck 52:10 Oh, that's different too than I was looking at.

Narrator 52:11 ... running frequencies through it, yeah.

Kristin Beck 52:12 'Cause the frequency is really lined it up and made it.

Joe Rogan 52:14 Is there any science on talking to plants? I think there is.

Narrator 52:19 There, that's different too.

Joe Rogan 52:21 Is it?

Narrator 52:22 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 52:22 I mean-

Narrator 52:22 Yeah, but, uh, I'm, I'm just trying to like-

Kristin Beck 52:24 Well, think about church.

Narrator 52:25 ... reproduce the science.

Kristin Beck 52:25 Did you go to church as a kid?

Joe Rogan 52:27 Not that much, but I, I stopped when I was like seven.

Kristin Beck 52:30 So I, I grew up in a very church atmosphere. Jerry Falwell, we went to that school and church with Jerry Falwell.

Joe Rogan 52:37 Oh, really?

Kristin Beck 52:37 And Adrian Rogers in Memphis, Tennessee. So we went to the big mega churches. We were like deep, deep Baptist Evangelical Christians.

Joe Rogan 52:44 Damn.

Kristin Beck 52:44 So I, yeah, I got indoctrinated really young.

Joe Rogan 52:46 Whoo.

Kristin Beck 52:47 For a long time. So if you start throwing Bible verses at me, I can throw it down.

Joe Rogan 52:50 Really?

Kristin Beck 52:50 Yeah, I can throw it down.

Joe Rogan 52:51 Wow.

Kristin Beck 52:51 I can throw down Bible quick. So-

Joe Rogan 52:53 So what, what, uh, branch of, uh, Christianity is that?

Kristin Beck 52:56 Davidian. No, I'm just kidding.

Joe Rogan 52:58 (laughs)

Kristin Beck 52:58 (laughs) It was, uh, Evangelical Christian and Baptist.

Narrator 53:01 Here's a for instance, like there is some very strange water experiments you can do with frequencies and-

Joe Rogan 53:06 Oh, wow.

Narrator 53:06 You can set it down on plates and make some really cool stuff too.

Kristin Beck 53:11 It, all shapes now. It's really cool.

Joe Rogan 53:11 Look at that, so the electricity running into the water makes it do that spiral?

Narrator 53:15 Well, it's, it's sound really.

Kristin Beck 53:15 Yeah, it's sound, yeah.

Joe Rogan 53:16 Oh, it's a sign, sound.

Kristin Beck 53:18 It's vibrations.

Joe Rogan 53:19 Oh.

Narrator 53:19 Like it's, this, this is-

Joe Rogan 53:20 Oh.

Narrator 53:20 The spout, the spout is connected to a speaker. The speaker is being controlled by an oscillation thing.

Joe Rogan 53:26 Whoa.

Kristin Beck 53:26 Oh. But if you do all the hertz, you can see it-

Joe Rogan 53:28 Oh my God, this is incredible.

Kristin Beck 53:30 What is the, uh... (water running)

Narrator 53:33 Uh, and, uh, there are... This is just one experiment for this. There's a lot of other really, really cool ones.

Kristin Beck 53:38 Those are the ones that you run through all the frequencies and you have these, uh, the balance frequencies, which is... (exhales) I'm messing up the frequencies right now, I can't remember. TVI, I just blame it on TVI.

Joe Rogan 53:51 It's...

Kristin Beck 53:51 I may have smoked another joint. The, uh, it changes shapes. So it goes into like this, uh, p- hexagram and all these different shapes.

Joe Rogan 54:00 Yeah, different patterns.

Kristin Beck 54:01 Different what frequency is. So if you change the frequency, the patterns change.

Joe Rogan 54:04 Right.

Kristin Beck 54:04 And so if it can do that... And then that's why I was talking about prayer and churches and singing. There was a time when a lot of humanity would get together at least once a week, and they would sing together and they would pray together. And i- no matter who you're praying to, God or Yahweh or the Creator or the Maker, whoever you want to pray to, if everybody's on the same frequency, everybody's on the same energy-

Joe Rogan 54:28 Mm-hmm.

Kristin Beck 54:28 ... and they're giving you all this energy, how could that be bad?

Joe Rogan 54:31 ... look at this thing.

Narrator 54:32 Yeah. This is some weird shit.

Joe Rogan 54:34 So, the ultrasonic waves are causing these objects to levitate, so they're letter- levitating in the ultrasonic waves.

Kristin Beck 54:42 Is that ice?

Narrator 54:43 I don't know ex- I don't even think it says exactly what they're floating there. It's probably just a piece of maybe, like, rice or a piece of paper or something.

Joe Rogan 54:49 Holy shit.

Narrator 54:50 Yeah.

54:50 But I've th- uh, people speculate this is maybe how the, the pyramids might have been made-

54:55 Yeah.

54:55 ... because of the frequencies that-

54:57 Yeah.

54:57 ... people think they make, or m- could have made, you know, back when they-

55:00 What?

55:00 ... existed in the way they did, in their ch- uh, original form.

Kristin Beck 55:04 And if you think about-

Narrator 55:05 Wow.

Kristin Beck 55:05 ... all of-

Narrator 55:05 I don't know how. That, there, this is part of, like, Pentagram/Hancock stuff.

Joe Rogan 55:08 That was something that Eddie Griffin said outside The Comedy Store once high as fuck-

Narrator 55:12 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 55:13 ... smoking cigarettes, going-

Narrator 55:14 I don't know how.

55:14 Pyramids were made with sound.

Joe Rogan 55:17 Yeah, I believe that.

Narrator 55:17 There's a frequency. I remember one of ... someone's talked about there's a hum in there or there's a f- a specific frequency-

Joe Rogan 55:22 Hmm.

Narrator 55:23 ... in one of the pyramids. I don't remember. Ah.

Joe Rogan 55:25 Well, there's som- something certainly to, like, the shape of the stone and the fact that it's all gonna echo like crazy and-

Kristin Beck 55:32 And there's that one pyramid in South America-

Joe Rogan 55:33 ... it's, uh, designed.

Kristin Beck 55:33 ... you can yell at it and it gives you a bird sound back.

Joe Rogan 55:36 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That, that's weird.

Kristin Beck 55:38 There is something going on with the pyramids.

Joe Rogan 55:39 That's weird. That sound-

Kristin Beck 55:39 We're a pyramid culture.

Joe Rogan 55:40 Have you ever seen that, Jamie? Where the guy stands down at the bottom of, uh, I think it's in Chichen Itza, and he, he makes some noise?

Kristin Beck 55:48 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 55:48 What did he do? Did he yell?

Kristin Beck 55:49 I think you can make clap-

Joe Rogan 55:50 Clap.

Kristin Beck 55:50 You can make any noise, loud noise, and it comes back as a bird.

Joe Rogan 55:53 It sounds weird.

Kristin Beck 55:54 It's pretty cool.

Joe Rogan 55:55 And that's, like, the Temple of Quetzalcoatl, I think, too. I might have made that up. But that's, like, their bird.

Kristin Beck 56:00 It sounded good.

Joe Rogan 56:01 Their crazy, uh, bird god. Is it in Chichen Itza?

Narrator 56:04 Uh, Chichen Itza echo clap.

Kristin Beck 56:07 But if you do the-

Narrator 56:08 Look at this.

Kristin Beck 56:08 Oh, yeah, this is it. (clapping) Look.

Joe Rogan 56:15 Isn't that ... If you saw how big this pyramid is and how far away this guy is from it, you would realize how crazy that is. If you're listening to this-

Narrator 56:22 This-

Joe Rogan 56:22 ... just listening to this.

Kristin Beck 56:22 It's amazing.

Narrator 56:22 This is a simple echo, actually. It's very simple to explain. When you clap in front of a pyramid, I mean, of a, of a slope, the sound will go to, to the top, in this case, a pyramid, you know. And if it's ... there are a, a cavity or a temple, like, in this case, the echo come- will come back to you. If you clap in front of an Egyptian pyramid, nothing happens because the sound goes away. But here (clapping) the sound comes right back.

Joe Rogan 56:54 If they did that on purpose-

Narrator 56:56 Why sounds like a bird-

Joe Rogan 56:56 Imagine if they figured that out on purpose. Imagine if they designed that. If they designed that, we need to figure out what the fuck went wrong, like, what happened?

Kristin Beck 57:03 Something happened to-

Joe Rogan 57:04 Yeah.

Kristin Beck 57:05 What is it? The Dryas Section?

Joe Rogan 57:07 Yeah, Younger Dryas Impact Theory.

Kristin Beck 57:08 Younger Dryas. And nobody talks about that.

Joe Rogan 57:10 Yeah. Right.

Kristin Beck 57:10 Why don't we ever talk about the fact that we were very advanced human beings doing amazing things, the pyramids and doing this and floating rocks and doing space stuff, maybe, back in those days? And then it all was destroyed, now we're rebuilding. Why can't we accept that fact?

Joe Rogan 57:25 Well, you know, I think it's w- civilization has these, uh, r- rises and falls, and we always wanna believe that we're in the middle of rising and that we're at the highest level the people have ever been, because we're way higher than anybody that we know of. And when we look back 1,000 years from now, yeah, we're way more advanced than them. But when you take into account the Younger Dryas Impact Theory, you gotta get ... it gets real confusing.

Kristin Beck 57:50 Dep- take it down.

Joe Rogan 57:51 Because you start going, "Well, okay, if that did happen," like, how smart people, were people 12,000 years ago? If, if the US was really covered, half of it was covered in a mile-high sheet of ice, and people were creating these insane structures-

Kristin Beck 58:08 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 58:09 ... like, insane, whe- whether it's the pyramids of Egypt or, I mean, I don't know what year Machu Picchu was made, but-

Kristin Beck 58:16 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 58:16 ... a lot of people date it back a long time ago as well.

Kristin Beck 58:19 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 58:19 I mean, uh, in that ... Wait, is Machu Picchu from that era? Like, when do they think Machu Picchu was constructed? But it's another one of those things-

Kristin Beck 58:25 Maybe 5,000 or 6,000. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 58:25 ... that just doesn't make, doesn't make any sense.

Kristin Beck 58:28 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 58:28 It's so amazing.

Kristin Beck 58:29 None of it makes sense.

Joe Rogan 58:30 Like, "How did you get these stones here? They're so big and it's so perfect and-"

Kristin Beck 58:34 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 58:34 "... beautiful in the way they contoured the stones to-"

Kristin Beck 58:37 We still can't do it.

Joe Rogan 58:37 "... to fit into these slots."

Kristin Beck 58:39 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 58:39 It's incredible.

Narrator 58:39 We can't do it.

Kristin Beck 58:40 1450.

Narrator 58:41 We still can't.

Joe Rogan 58:42 1450? Really?

Narrator 58:43 That seems wrong, but-

Kristin Beck 58:44 There's no way.

Joe Rogan 58:45 Oh, that might be just one of those things. There's this ... One of those things where, like, archaeologists, they'll date a thing and, you know, you can't really date stone, so they date whether it's, uh, biological material, they have to find, like, a piece of wood or something-

Kristin Beck 59:00 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 59:00 ... something that they can do a carbon dating something on.

Kristin Beck 59:02 Like an organic-

Joe Rogan 59:02 You can't date stones.

Kristin Beck 59:03 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 59:04 So they're probably just kinda guessing. They might be off.

Kristin Beck 59:06 (laughs)

Narrator 59:06 It depends.

Joe Rogan 59:07 But the thing is, like, that becomes doctrine with a lot of people. Like, they, you know, they found that thing, uh, Gobekli Tepe, and that threw a monkey wrench into everything, 'cause for sure that's 12,000 years old.

Kristin Beck 59:18 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 59:19 For sure. So that means somebody covered it up intentionally-

Kristin Beck 59:22 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 59:22 ... 12,000 years ago. That means they could build this stuff 12,000 years ago. Like, how?

Kristin Beck 59:27 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 59:27 How did they ... How were they be- able to make these immense stone columns when we think that these people are supposed to be hunters-gatherers?

Kristin Beck 59:32 And the Sphinx. There's saying the Sphinx was there.

Narrator 59:33 It might just be when the last occupied was 1450.

Joe Rogan 59:36 Oh, that makes sense.

Narrator 59:37 And that's what it's just giving me the answer for when I asked.

Joe Rogan 59:39 That makes sense. That makes sense. That makes more sense.

Kristin Beck 59:42 1440.

Joe Rogan 59:42 Like, people kept using it.

Narrator 59:44 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 59:44 But when did they actually make it? That's ... I mean, when, when you get, uh-

Kristin Beck 59:48 1440.

Joe Rogan 59:48 You know, when you get to looking at stuff like, like the Great Pyramid m- of Egypt and, you know, they've, they've placed that somewhere around, uh, 2500 BC, maybe they're right. But there's so much shit there that's below that. There's so much stuff-

Kristin Beck 1:00:02 Yeah.

Narrator 1:00:02 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:00:02 ... that they find, like, these old kingdom structures that are under the ground and they have to-

Kristin Beck 1:00:06 There's whole subway systems under the pyramids.

Joe Rogan 1:00:08 How about all the stuff they're finding in the Amazon?

Kristin Beck 1:00:10 Yeah. It's crazy.

Joe Rogan 1:00:11 They're finding all these, like, ancient-

Kristin Beck 1:00:12 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:00:12 ... civilizations in the Amazon-

Kristin Beck 1:00:13 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:00:13 ... that could have been immense and-

Kristin Beck 1:00:14 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:00:15 ... had, you know, who knows how many fucking people living in these really complex grids. Like, that was all cities.

Kristin Beck 1:00:21 It's crazy. So I've been buying old encyclopedias. So I'm trying to find ... Like, I have a encyclopedia from 1910. I have another book of, uh-It's a single book and it's like the world knowledge book or something. And that's from 1890-something. But I'm trying to get all these really old books because you got to figure that all of history, everything that's written down, is written by the victors as to what happens to everything else. And so if you're looking pre-World War I for the data, and I think if you want to know anything for sure, you have to go before World War I.

Joe Rogan 1:00:53 Really?

Kristin Beck 1:00:54 Because I think everything was changed.

Joe Rogan 1:00:55 What do you mean?

Kristin Beck 1:00:55 Like, the victors were, were rewriting stuff as we speak right now. There's stuff being adjusted. They're taking words out of the dictionary and they're changing stuff and they're saying that this is wrong, and they're constantly correcting historical documents.

Joe Rogan 1:01:08 Like, what-

Kristin Beck 1:01:08 The encyclopedia today is not going to be the same as my 1910 encyclopedia.

Joe Rogan 1:01:13 What do you think they're omitting?

Kristin Beck 1:01:15 I think they're trying to cover stuff up.

Joe Rogan 1:01:16 Like what kind of stuff?

Kristin Beck 1:01:17 I, I really believe that, like, if you start looking at Rockefeller and a lot of the really big, you know, rich moguls from back in those days, they changed the schools, they changed the universities, changed how we think, they changed how we educate. They started changing the entire medical, you know, system from all this really good homeopathic really cool stuff to all this pharmaceutical stuff based on oil. I just think there's so much things going on in those days when they had a chance to do it, that now we are brainwashed to think that all of these natural herbs and all this stuff doesn't do anything for us. Like, the only thing that can help is if you take this aspirin. The only thing that can help if you take this one vaccine. It says, no, there's all this other stuff that's been going on for thousands of years, but they're covering it up. They're, they're erasing those parts of history and saying that this is the way you do it. So I, I just want to look at it. I want to look at what they had back in an early 1900s or 1800s, compare it to what's here, okay?

Joe Rogan 1:02:13 But if you compare, and when it comes to medical science, there's no comparison to what they know today. They n- They, they've done so many studies. There's been so much data. For sure, it's corrupted somewhat by the pharmaceutical industry.

Kristin Beck 1:02:27 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:02:27 For sure.

Kristin Beck 1:02:28 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:02:28 For sure, testing is somewhat corrupt. They've been busted doing stuff before.

Kristin Beck 1:02:31 Yeah, all the time.

Joe Rogan 1:02:32 They've had to pay massive fines, for sure. But also for sure, our understanding of how to heal people is better-

Kristin Beck 1:02:38 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:02:38 ... than it's ever been too.

Kristin Beck 1:02:39 Oh, yeah. I 100% agree.

Joe Rogan 1:02:40 Both those... Yeah. So, like, that's one, one of the things that I, when people want to talk about, like, using herbs to cure diseases, I'm like, "What? Medicine's pretty fucking good too."

Kristin Beck 1:02:49 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:02:50 Like, it's like you can't throw the baby out with the bathwater.

Kristin Beck 1:02:53 We can do both. But why can't we do both?

Joe Rogan 1:02:54 Yeah, we should be able to.

Kristin Beck 1:02:55 Why can't we look at all these herbs and saying, "If I take this willow bark and I scrape this down and I do this and it's gonna be..." There's aspen trees, there's, there's all these different trees and all these different herbs that have really good benefits.

Joe Rogan 1:03:07 What, what do you get out of an aspen tree?

Kristin Beck 1:03:08 They got rid of all that. I thought the aspen tree was the bark, and that's how they used to use it for headaches and stuff.

Joe Rogan 1:03:13 It's willow tree, right?

Kristin Beck 1:03:14 Oh, willow.

Joe Rogan 1:03:14 Isn't that, isn't that-

Kristin Beck 1:03:14 Willow? Yeah, I think it's willow.

Joe Rogan 1:03:15 Isn't that one of those?

Kristin Beck 1:03:16 You scrape the bark off a willow.

Joe Rogan 1:03:16 Is that all you have to do to get aspirin?

Kristin Beck 1:03:18 It's the bark.

Joe Rogan 1:03:19 I bet, I bet it tastes like shit though.

Kristin Beck 1:03:20 It's the bark off a willow tree.

Joe Rogan 1:03:21 Just eat this bullshit-ass bark? You just swallow a couple of bare aspirins?

Kristin Beck 1:03:24 Six, six months ago, I stopped using toothpaste.

Joe Rogan 1:03:26 Oh my God.

Kristin Beck 1:03:27 So I don't use any toothpaste.

Joe Rogan 1:03:28 What do you wash your teeth with?

Kristin Beck 1:03:29 Well, I just do brush to get stuff out, but-

Joe Rogan 1:03:31 Ugh.

Kristin Beck 1:03:31 ... basically my mouth bacteria is at a point right now, just like your stomach, all those bacterias, there's good bacteria and bad bacteria.

Joe Rogan 1:03:38 Yeah?

Kristin Beck 1:03:38 So the good stuff is built up good enough right now that I have zero odor, zero nothing. I don't have to worry about anything in there.

Joe Rogan 1:03:44 Really?

Kristin Beck 1:03:45 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:03:45 So you think we've been fucking ourselves over with toothpaste?

Kristin Beck 1:03:47 I think a lot of pharmaceuticals and a lot of stuff out there isn't always the right stuff for us.

Joe Rogan 1:03:52 It is a common misconception that aspirin is found in the bark of the willow tree. A related compound called salicin does indeed occur in the willow bark, thereby explaining the use of the bark as a medication since the name... Since the time of Hippocrates. Okay, so it works like... It's just a different thing that works like aspirin.

Kristin Beck 1:04:11 And it's not acetoxylic acid.

Joe Rogan 1:04:13 Oh. Look at you, smart pants.

Kristin Beck 1:04:15 That's the aspirin. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:04:16 Yeah, it's, um... What is this? Yeah. So that's Gigantopithecus.

Kristin Beck 1:04:20 Nice.

Joe Rogan 1:04:20 That was a real thing. So that was a real animal. And the way they found out about this is interesting. There was a guy, I think it was an anthropologist, was in an apothecary shop in China in, like, the 1930s, I think. Somewhere like early in the 20th century and, um, he found this tooth and he's like, "What is this?" It's a giant primate tooth.

Kristin Beck 1:04:42 That's cool.

Joe Rogan 1:04:43 And he was looking at it and he was like, "This is, this is wrong. Like, where the fuck did you find this?" And they, they took him to wherever it was and he found more. So he found jawbones and-

Kristin Beck 1:04:52 That's cool.

Joe Rogan 1:04:53 The position of the jaw, uh, is one of a hominid-

Kristin Beck 1:04:57 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:04:57 ... that, uh, is bipedal. So it's like the position of the jaw is supposedly one that's a stand-up gorilla.

Kristin Beck 1:05:05 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:05:05 So this big-ass, hairy man-looking thing that you saw in that first picture-

Kristin Beck 1:05:10 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:05:10 ... apparently that was a real thing. And it lived alongside people. Like, there was a thing walking around like that in the jungle.

Kristin Beck 1:05:17 That's pretty cool.

Joe Rogan 1:05:18 It's fucking crazy.

Kristin Beck 1:05:19 Can you look up 1800s, uh, giant skeletons?

Joe Rogan 1:05:24 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. The Smithsonian killed the giants.

Kristin Beck 1:05:27 Yeah, because it would be the same thing as this.

Joe Rogan 1:05:29 Here's the claim.

Kristin Beck 1:05:29 But these are all-

Joe Rogan 1:05:30 Giant human skeletons were found by the thousands and destroyed by the Smithsonian. An old hoax has resurfaced-

Kristin Beck 1:05:37 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:05:37 ... in an Instagram meme claiming that giant skeletons were found, but were destroyed because having to explain the existence of these skeletons contradicted the, the evolution of mankind and creation. End quote. Uh, the July 25th post by the user Conspiracy Theories, which