Joe Rogan Experience #1834 - Ari Shaffir, Shane Gillis & Mark Normand

Narrator 0:00 (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

0:04 The Joe Rogan Experience. (energetic music) Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day.

Joe Rogan 0:13 I might have to take a shit in the middle of this podcast.

Ari Shaffir 0:16 Yeah, it's great. Do it in your shirt.

Mark Normand 0:17 Be nice to take a break.

Shane Gillis 0:18 We won't trash you while you're gone.

Joe Rogan 0:20 I might.

Mark Normand 0:20 (clears throat)

Ari Shaffir 0:21 Take a shit.

Joe Rogan 0:22 Are we ready?

Mark Normand 0:23 (laughs)

Ari Shaffir 0:24 Oh, that wasn't on?

Joe Rogan 0:25 That should have been the opening. (laughs)

Shane Gillis 0:26 That was the opening, man. That was gold.

Mark Normand 0:28 That was a great opening.

Joe Rogan 0:28 I, was that, were you recording when I said that? Yeah, but I don't know-

Ari Shaffir 0:31 Perfect.

Joe Rogan 0:31 ... what camera was on.

Shane Gillis 0:31 Yeah.

Mark Normand 0:32 You wanna know what camera was on?

Shane Gillis 0:33 We're in, folks.

Joe Rogan 0:33 That's fine. That's fine.

Mark Normand 0:35 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 0:35 I'm just telling, if you, if I leave in the middle of the podcast, I'm like, "Oops."

Shane Gillis 0:38 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 0:38 "Be right back, boys."

Mark Normand 0:39 Damn it.

Ari Shaffir 0:39 I sharted my pants in the pool yesterday.

Joe Rogan 0:41 I just wanna let everybody know that I ... Did you?

Ari Shaffir 0:42 Yeah.

Shane Gillis 0:42 He sharted in the pool?

Mark Normand 0:43 It was ugly?

Ari Shaffir 0:44 (laughs) No, right next to it.

Joe Rogan 0:45 What?

Shane Gillis 0:45 He had a gurgler.

Ari Shaffir 0:46 I was like ... (gurgling) And I just sat there.

Joe Rogan 0:48 Oh, no.

Ari Shaffir 0:49 Yeah, I sat there-

Joe Rogan 0:49 Where was this, hotel?

Ari Shaffir 0:50 Yeah. (laughs)

Shane Gillis 0:51 It sounded like an old car.

Joe Rogan 0:52 In the Four Seasons?

Ari Shaffir 0:52 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 0:52 Oh, no, that's not a good place to shart.

Mark Normand 0:55 (laughs)

Shane Gillis 0:55 Actually, it was great.

Joe Rogan 0:55 That's a respectable establishment.

Ari Shaffir 0:57 No one else was there.

Shane Gillis 0:57 Did you get back in the pool?

Ari Shaffir 0:59 I did not get back in the pool.

Mark Normand 1:00 (laughs)

Shane Gillis 1:00 You let it wash itself out.

Joe Rogan 1:02 He gave, he gave it a quick wipe. (laughs)

Shane Gillis 1:03 It's a giant bidet.

Mark Normand 1:05 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:05 He gave it a quick wipe and wiped right back in.

Ari Shaffir 1:06 I had that tight underwear, it kept it all in. The one that got the sheath, the sheath underwear, it kept it all in.

Shane Gillis 1:09 (laughs) Yeah.

Mark Normand 1:10 Uh, is this number three or four? Protect our parts.

Shane Gillis 1:13 Four.

Joe Rogan 1:13 Four?

Ari Shaffir 1:14 Four.

Joe Rogan 1:14 Gentlemen, come on.

Shane Gillis 1:15 Hey.

Joe Rogan 1:16 We're fucking rolling here. We're rolling here, boys.

Shane Gillis 1:18 Whoo.

Mark Normand 1:19 Whoo.

Shane Gillis 1:20 Hey, mazel tov.

Ari Shaffir 1:22 All right, a little bit older.

Shane Gillis 1:22 Dickless.

Joe Rogan 1:23 Here's to problems.

Ari Shaffir 1:25 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:26 'Cause they're coming. (laughs)

Shane Gillis 1:28 Oh, ho, ho, ho. That's strong. (coughs) All right, I'm keeping track. You guys always give me shit about not drinking enough.

Mark Normand 1:34 (sighs) You don't get fucked up at all on this, do you?

Shane Gillis 1:35 This is one cup of Buffalo Trace.

Joe Rogan 1:37 You, you, you've been partying with the, the Kreischer.

Shane Gillis 1:40 Yeah.

Ari Shaffir 1:40 Oh.

Joe Rogan 1:40 Has that ... Both of you have been partying with the Kreischer.

Mark Normand 1:43 No, you haven't yet.

Ari Shaffir 1:43 No, he hasn't yet. He's about to go.

Joe Rogan 1:44 Yeah.

Shane Gillis 1:44 I've done it in the past, but I'm going next week on the fully loaded. I can't wait.

Joe Rogan 1:47 Your mustache seems like you're losing hair here.

Ari Shaffir 1:49 (laughs)

Mark Normand 1:50 It's the reverse Hitler.

Shane Gillis 1:50 (laughs)

Mark Normand 1:51 Don't worry about it, dude. That's how not racist I am.

Joe Rogan 1:54 He heils like this. He goes down.

Shane Gillis 1:56 (laughs)

Mark Normand 1:56 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:59 What is going on with this? Did you do that on purpose?

Mark Normand 2:01 I don't know. Don't worry about this. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 2:03 (laughs)

Mark Normand 2:03 You didn't do it on pur- that's just natural, right? (laughs)

Shane Gillis 2:04 It's very Asian, like an old, old Asian guy.

Mark Normand 2:06 Yeah, it's reparation.

Shane Gillis 2:07 Fu Manchu. He should be sitting on a box, peeling something.

Joe Rogan 2:09 It's like John Wayne when he played Genghis Khan.

Mark Normand 2:12 Oh, that was great.

Shane Gillis 2:13 (laughs)

Mark Normand 2:13 They couldn't, that's the closest they get to Asian, so like, "Eh, just get a cowboy."

Joe Rogan 2:16 "I'll tell you what, I'm on a roll all the way to Beijing."

Shane Gillis 2:20 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 2:21 Have you ever seen John Wayne play Genghis Khan?

Mark Normand 2:22 Yeah, it's crazy.

Joe Rogan 2:22 It's ... They didn't even try.

Mark Normand 2:24 No.

Joe Rogan 2:24 They didn't even pretend.

Mark Normand 2:24 He's just a white dude, he's like, "I'm Genghis Khan."

Shane Gillis 2:26 (laughs)

Mark Normand 2:26 Put some eye makeup on him, a little ...

Shane Gillis 2:29 There's a couple, Andy Rooney, was it? He did the Breakfast at Tiffany's. (Chinese accent) "Oh, hello." All that shit.

Joe Rogan 2:34 Oh, did he?

Shane Gillis 2:34 Yeah, it was bad. They didn't use Asians, so they just had whitey do the voice.

Joe Rogan 2:39 What about the guy who played the detective, that old school detective that was a white guy who played a Chinese detective? What, do you remember that one, Jamie?

Shane Gillis 2:46 What?

Joe Rogan 2:46 What that was called?

Mark Normand 2:47 Oh, my God.

Joe Rogan 2:47 It was a very famous-

Ari Shaffir 2:48 Mickey Rooney.

Mark Normand 2:48 Wow.

Shane Gillis 2:49 There he is. Oh, Mickey Rooney, not Andy Rooney.

Mark Normand 2:51 Wow.

Shane Gillis 2:53 Look at that.

Ari Shaffir 2:54 Mr. Yunioshi.

Shane Gillis 2:54 That was a, that was a best picture.

Joe Rogan 2:56 Charlie Chan.

Mark Normand 2:57 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 2:58 You guys remember Charlie Chan?

Mark Normand 3:00 Yeah, I love him.

Joe Rogan 3:00 Charlie Chan was like in the 1950s, I think it was. There was a guy who played like the smartest detective, and it was a white guy who played ... There it is. Com- completely, completely white guy who they fucked with his eyes and made him look Chinese.

Shane Gillis 3:15 Whoa. That's fucked up.

Joe Rogan 3:18 Yeah, they used to do that.

Shane Gillis 3:19 But where-

Mark Normand 3:20 They used to do that.

Shane Gillis 3:20 ... where you at on the trans? You, you know, you can't play a trans person now unless you're trans.

Joe Rogan 3:25 Yeah.

Shane Gillis 3:25 Which seems weird.

Ari Shaffir 3:26 You could ... You should just get a, a fucking pass if you suck a dick.

Joe Rogan 3:30 That's all you gotta do?

Ari Shaffir 3:30 Yeah, half, halfway.

Joe Rogan 3:31 But a lot of trans-

Shane Gillis 3:32 All right, Shane, you're in.

Joe Rogan 3:33 ... a lot of trans women-

Mark Normand 3:34 (laughs)

Ari Shaffir 3:34 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 3:34 ... a lot of trans women, uh, still have sex with women.

Shane Gillis 3:38 That's true.

Joe Rogan 3:40 And they keep their dicks.

Ari Shaffir 3:41 They're lesbos.

Joe Rogan 3:42 Which I recommend you keep your dick.

Shane Gillis 3:44 Yes.

Joe Rogan 3:44 You know, like, I've been paying attention to the operations. I, I went down-

Mark Normand 3:48 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 3:48 ... a rabbit hole (exhales) because I had a guest who had a friend who had a operation, and it was a disaster.

Mark Normand 3:54 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 3:54 They, they transitioned, and then, and then she started explaining to me all the issues that happen with it, including, like, growing hair inside, because they-

Mark Normand 4:03 Oh, no.

Shane Gillis 4:03 Inside?

Joe Rogan 4:03 ... tucked inside and then you grow hair inside.

Ari Shaffir 4:06 Hm.

Mark Normand 4:06 Oh, boy.

Shane Gillis 4:07 Probably feels good.

Joe Rogan 4:07 I mean, I don't, I don't think so.

Ari Shaffir 4:09 And then what?

Joe Rogan 4:10 Infections.

Mark Normand 4:10 Oh, stubble.

Joe Rogan 4:11 Yeah, and then she turned me onto this video of this person talking about all the infections that they get because they've had the operation transition, the transition operation.

Shane Gillis 4:20 Well-

Joe Rogan 4:20 So they recommend, like, she was recommending, like, keep, you know, you can still be a woman, just keep your cock.

Mark Normand 4:26 Yeah.

Shane Gillis 4:26 Have you watched trans chick with dick porn? 'Cause it's pretty great.

Joe Rogan 4:29 Have I not watched it?

Shane Gillis 4:30 (laughs) It's pretty good 'cause you get the dick and two women.

Mark Normand 4:35 Yeah, but then you're kind of whacking off to somebody with a dick.

Ari Shaffir 4:38 Yeah, that's an issue.

Shane Gillis 4:39 Ah!

Joe Rogan 4:39 But aren't you always?

Shane Gillis 4:40 Aha!

Joe Rogan 4:40 If you're watching a guy fuck a girl?

Mark Normand 4:41 No, I'm not really-

Shane Gillis 4:42 Unless you're watching Sisar.

Mark Normand 4:43 I'm not really-

Joe Rogan 4:43 It's the least gay of porn because you got a girl-

Shane Gillis 4:45 Exactly.

Mark Normand 4:45 No, no.

Joe Rogan 4:46 ... a girl with a cock-

Ari Shaffir 4:46 Same amount of dicks.

Mark Normand 4:47 ... fucking a girl.

Joe Rogan 4:47 Exactly.

Mark Normand 4:47 Same amount of dicks, added tits.

Joe Rogan 4:49 Yeah. D- double girls.

Shane Gillis 4:50 Double tits.

Joe Rogan 4:51 Yeah, it's double girls.

Mark Normand 4:51 I'm not judging, but then you're whacking off to a guy with a dick's tits.

Shane Gillis 4:56 I'm okay with that.

Ari Shaffir 4:57 Right.

Joe Rogan 4:57 That's fine, but you're not. Don't look at those. Look at the other tits.

Mark Normand 5:00 Yeah, but then what's the point of enjoying ... That, it-

Joe Rogan 5:02 Look at the other tits.

Mark Normand 5:02 ... nullifies the argument of, oh, two tits.

Shane Gillis 5:04 But wait, what if it's a fat guy-

Mark Normand 5:06 (laughs)

Shane Gillis 5:06 ... fucking a chick?

Mark Normand 5:07 Uh-huh.

Joe Rogan 5:07 Ooh, good point.

Shane Gillis 5:07 There's also double tits.

Joe Rogan 5:09 Good point. Good point.

Ari Shaffir 5:09 It is annoying, it is annoying when they focus on the dude too much-

Shane Gillis 5:11 That's-

Joe Rogan 5:11 (laughs)

Ari Shaffir 5:11 ... on a porn.

Shane Gillis 5:11 ... how John Burnett died.

Joe Rogan 5:12 Right.

Ari Shaffir 5:12 And you're like, "Get off that, go to the chick."

Joe Rogan 5:14 Right. Like, why are you showing his face when he cums? Like, ew.

Mark Normand 5:17 Oh.

Shane Gillis 5:17 Oh, that's a buzzkill. (laughs)

Mark Normand 5:18 Yeah, they kind of, they kind of got rid of that.

Joe Rogan 5:21 (laughs)

Shane Gillis 5:21 I hate that.

Mark Normand 5:21 They kind of got rid of that.

Joe Rogan 5:22 Ah, ah.

Shane Gillis 5:22 I don't know.

Mark Normand 5:23 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 5:23 Ah, ah, ah.

Shane Gillis 5:25 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 5:25 That's so true. What is that? Who made that choice-

Mark Normand 5:28 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 5:28 ... in the director's cut?

Mark Normand 5:29 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 5:29 Maybe the guy wants his time. Maybe he's like one, like a sitcom star, like, "I'm not getting enough screen time."

Shane Gillis 5:34 Yeah, I used to watch-

Ari Shaffir 5:35 They must be.

Mark Normand 5:35 Right?

Ari Shaffir 5:35 Yeah, it must be them, their production company.

Joe Rogan 5:38 Oh, that's probably it.

Ari Shaffir 5:38 "I have the best cum face. Everyone should know."

Shane Gillis 5:40 Right.

Joe Rogan 5:40 Because, like, that's the, those are the people that made all the money, is like the people that produced it.

Mark Normand 5:45 Huh.

Joe Rogan 5:45 I used to have a guy in my neighborhood, uh, lived right down the street from me during the, the golden days when they sold DVDs. This guy was balling outta control. He had a phat Mercedes, lived in a beautiful house, and, uh-

Shane Gillis 5:56 The bootlegs.

Joe Rogan 5:56 ... he was making all this money.

Ari Shaffir 5:57 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 5:57 But then ... No, no, no, he was making his own.

Shane Gillis 5:59 Oh.

Joe Rogan 5:59 He was a producer.

Shane Gillis 6:00 Oh.

Ari Shaffir 6:00 Oh, nice.

Joe Rogan 6:00 But then digital came along. The internet came along-

Mark Normand 6:03 Ruined it.

Joe Rogan 6:03 ... and took the fucking legs out of that company.

Shane Gillis 6:06 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 6:07 That business went-... kaput. I mean, the, the, the government bailed out all kinds of companies. They never, there was never a peep about bailing out the porn industry.

Guest 6:17 Yeah.

Shane Gillis 6:17 Hmm, interesting.

Guest 6:18 Good one.

Joe Rogan 6:19 You know? But everybody's pretending they don't u-... It's-

Guest 6:22 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 6:22 Porn is a weird thing, like people pretend they don't watch it.

Shane Gillis 6:25 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 6:25 But it's literally-

Guest 6:26 (burps)

Joe Rogan 6:26 ... billions of people watch it.

Guest 6:27 The biggest company.

Shane Gillis 6:28 Billions.

Guest 6:29 The biggest industry.

Shane Gillis 6:29 They show the views now. It's like eight million, nine million.

Guest 6:32 My mom doesn't watch it. Every video?

Shane Gillis 6:34 Yeah.

Guest 6:34 A 65 percenter gets eight million.

Shane Gillis 6:35 And you can share porn. You can-

Joe Rogan 6:37 Yeah, like look at the views on a YouTube video versus a YouPorn video.

Shane Gillis 6:42 Blow them up. (laughs)

Guest 6:42 Uh-huh.

Joe Rogan 6:42 They must be off the charts different. Like unless you're watching a Justin Bieber video, like which gets giant numbers or, you know-

Guest 6:49 Hundreds of millions.

Joe Rogan 6:49 Yeah, something like that. But, but just f- for an average video, what are the odds? I mean, what are the, what, what's the difference? The difference must be gigantic.

Guest 6:58 Yeah. There's no like 10,000 view.

Joe Rogan 7:01 Right, exactly.

Shane Gillis 7:02 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 7:02 Yeah, there's a lot of, like 2,000 viewed videos.

Guest 7:04 Do you ever get on porn and it just went up, you're like, "250 views."

Shane Gillis 7:06 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 7:06 (laughs)

Guest 7:06 And as soon as you're done with it, four million. (laughs)

Shane Gillis 7:09 Right. But how do they make money? They... It's all free.

Joe Rogan 7:13 I don't know.

Guest 7:13 OnlyFans.

Shane Gillis 7:13 And there's millions and millions of videos.

Guest 7:15 OnlyFans.

Shane Gillis 7:15 Ah.

Joe Rogan 7:15 Well, no, no, no, I think they... I think porn websites probably make money by sh- selling your data.

Shane Gillis 7:22 Oh.

Joe Rogan 7:22 I think when you-

Guest 7:23 Oh, maybe.

Shane Gillis 7:24 That's not good.

Guest 7:24 Because premium subscriptions and selling your data, you're right.

Joe Rogan 7:26 Data, data is a thing that nobody saw it coming, but it's one of the biggest commodities in the world.

Shane Gillis 7:30 Huge.

Guest 7:31 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 7:31 Because they figured out a way... Like have you ever like seen, like when you, uh, you use a browser, like Brave Browser or something like that, and it shows you how many people are trying to track you-

Guest 7:42 Whoa.

Shane Gillis 7:42 Oh.

Joe Rogan 7:42 ... that it blocks?

Guest 7:43 I've never even heard of that.

Shane Gillis 7:43 That's terrifying.

Joe Rogan 7:44 Oh my God, it's cra-... It's wild.

Guest 7:46 I do private browsers only now.

Joe Rogan 7:47 It's a good move.

Guest 7:48 'Cause every time you go to Kayak-

Joe Rogan 7:50 Braava is my favorite.

Guest 7:50 ... and try to like, you're like-

Shane Gillis 7:51 Yes.

Joe Rogan 7:51 Yes.

Guest 7:51 ... looking at vid-, like, uh, prices are up and then you go back a minute later, it's like, it's up, because they know you just searched, like, "You want this trip."

Joe Rogan 7:57 Right.

Shane Gillis 7:58 Yeah.

Guest 7:58 And you're like, "Come on."

Joe Rogan 7:59 Also they curate your searches.

Guest 8:02 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 8:02 That's one of the... We found that out during the pandemic, like I was looking, there's a doctor that he, he died right after taking the jab. And, uh, I went and I was trying to look up the story, like what, what his deal was, did he have a previous heart condition, like what happened. I could not find it on Google. I, I researched the guy's name on DuckDuckGo, instantly found it.

Shane Gillis 8:21 Wow.

Joe Rogan 8:21 Whoa. What does that mean?

Guest 8:22 They're hiding it. They're hiding the data.

Shane Gillis 8:24 Whoa.

Joe Rogan 8:25 They curate the search results. That's 100% true. They curate search results.

Guest 8:28 And at least when they say... The first one's like ad, ad, ad, you're like, "All right, at least you're saying the ad thing, so I know-"

Joe Rogan 8:33 Yeah.

Guest 8:33 "... what you're doing." But then it's like what they'll allow to be seen first.

Shane Gillis 8:36 And they do it with Lyft and Uber.

Guest 8:37 It's big.

Shane Gillis 8:37 You go to Lyft and you're like, "Oh, that's too much. Let me check Uber." And they know where you're going already.

Guest 8:41 They know where you looked.

Joe Rogan 8:42 Yeah.

Shane Gillis 8:42 Scary.

Joe Rogan 8:43 Yeah.

Guest 8:44 Damn. I didn't know they were doing all that.

Shane Gillis 8:45 Oh, they're all in cahoots.

Joe Rogan 8:46 It's convenient in some ways.

Guest 8:48 Who's doing this?

Joe Rogan 8:48 It's convenient in some ways, like the ads represent the things that you're interested in-

Shane Gillis 8:52 Sure.

Joe Rogan 8:53 ... and it's like, "Oh, I need those shoes. Oh, perfect." But in another way it's like, "How the fuck do you know I need those shoes?" You know what I mean?

Guest 8:58 It's al- but it's also like it doesn't allow you to be exposed to other kinds of shoes.

Joe Rogan 9:02 Right.

Shane Gillis 9:03 Ah.

Guest 9:03 So like you're, you can't broaden your horizons ever.

Joe Rogan 9:06 But it's more effective for the advertiser.

Guest 9:09 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 9:09 You know, like if you're selling, say like workout equipment, and there's a guy w- who's constantly looking up CrossFit classes, that's the guy you want to sell to, because he's the guy that's interested in that shit. So it, it's very effective for the people that are advertising. But it's... The problem is it's like they're selling your data. They're, they're, and they're making fucking untold billions of dollars and they're also influencing elections, influencing policy. They're doing all this stuff with the money that they get from your data.

Shane Gillis 9:37 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 9:37 It's a very sneaky thing because nobody ever saw it coming. We all thought, you know, you go Google something, oh, it's just a free way to find out-

Shane Gillis 9:44 Right.

Joe Rogan 9:45 ... what the answer to my quest- question is.

Guest 9:47 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 9:47 But you didn't realize-

Guest 9:48 Because it used to be that way.

Joe Rogan 9:49 Yeah. You didn't realize that you are actually the commodity.

Guest 9:52 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 9:53 You're the thing that, that's valuable.

Shane Gillis 9:55 Yeah, apparently Johnny Depp put a lot of dough into social media and that helped everybody realize that Heard was a koos.

Guest 10:01 Wow. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 10:02 I don't think that's what happened.

Shane Gillis 10:04 Oh, oh, that's what I heard. I donated.

Joe Rogan 10:07 Do you feel bad for her at all?

Shane Gillis 10:09 Well, she lied.

Joe Rogan 10:10 She definitely lied.

Guest 10:11 Yeah, I feel bad for anybody who gets in that... It's like they're both losers out of it.

Shane Gillis 10:14 She shou- How did she get drawn into that? Did she have to go to court?

Joe Rogan 10:18 She's hot. She's being hot.

Shane Gillis 10:19 No, no, yeah, no I mean-

Guest 10:20 That's pretty...

Shane Gillis 10:20 Did she have to do that?

Joe Rogan 10:22 She had to. Yeah.

Shane Gillis 10:23 Oh, okay.

Joe Rogan 10:23 He sued her. He sued her for defamation.

Shane Gillis 10:25 She said he hit her.

Joe Rogan 10:26 She wrote an article which turned out she didn't write the article, the ACLU wrote the article.

Guest 10:31 What?

Joe Rogan 10:31 Yeah. The ACLU ghostwrote the article in exchange for her donating money-

Guest 10:36 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 10:36 ... that she never gave them.

Shane Gillis 10:37 (laughs)

Guest 10:37 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that was good.

Joe Rogan 10:38 She pledged it.

Shane Gillis 10:39 Pledged.

Guest 10:39 Yeah, pledge. Pledge is not a promise.

Shane Gillis 10:41 It's a cleaner. What a good promise.

Joe Rogan 10:42 Did you see that, that woman interviewing her after the fact? She did an interview after the court was over and it was even worse.

Guest 10:49 No, I didn't see it. What'd she say? Oh, it's the best.

Joe Rogan 10:49 It was even worse. What was the lady's name who went after her?

Shane Gillis 10:52 Camille Vasquez?

Joe Rogan 10:53 No, no, no, that's the lady who was the, the... That's the lady who was the lawyer.

Shane Gillis 10:57 I got a crush on her.

Joe Rogan 10:58 She's very hot.

Shane Gillis 10:59 Hit me up, Camille.

Guest 11:00 Damn, she's smart too.

Joe Rogan 11:00 She's hot too.

Guest 11:00 I can't believe you know all this shit.

Shane Gillis 11:01 Offset, I'm saying.

Joe Rogan 11:02 Offset.

Guest 11:02 Amber Heard.

Joe Rogan 11:03 What's that?

Guest 11:04 Offset the hotness of Amber Heard with another-

Joe Rogan 11:05 Right, by being, by being hot and natural.

Guest 11:07 Right.

Joe Rogan 11:07 And really smart.

Shane Gillis 11:08 Yeah.

Guest 11:09 I love it.

Joe Rogan 11:09 And really smart and not taking any bullshit. And we all want her to fall in love with Johnny secretly, right?

Shane Gillis 11:14 I think they got a thing.

Joe Rogan 11:15 So here it is. What's the lady's name?

Shane Gillis 11:17 Camille?

Joe Rogan 11:18 Savannah Guthrie.

Shane Gillis 11:18 Ah.

Joe Rogan 11:19 So Savannah Guthrie, uh, you know, she wouldn't let her off the hook.

Guest 11:22 Yeah, it looks like he's punching her right now. (laughs)

Shane Gillis 11:24 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 11:25 (Laughs) Seems like he's about to thumb her butt hole.

Shane Gillis 11:27 Ah.

Joe Rogan 11:28 Oh, she's good too.

Guest 11:29 Yeah, not bad, oldie trick.

Joe Rogan 11:31 But it's just like she... I don- I don't know what she was thinking taking this fucking interview.

Guest 11:36 She wants to reclaim her... She's just saying look how wrong the gu- the justice system is that I...

Joe Rogan 11:41 It didn't work at all. It was the worst.

Shane Gillis 11:43 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 11:43 It made it worse. Because-

Guest 11:44 She's a good actress.

Joe Rogan 11:45 No.

Guest 11:46 In the moment.

Joe Rogan 11:46 She's not.

Shane Gillis 11:46 No, she's not.

Joe Rogan 11:47 She's not. That's the problem.

Shane Gillis 11:48 Crocodile tears.

Guest 11:49 Suck it up.

Joe Rogan 11:49 She's really hot but she's not a good actress. She's just not.

Shane Gillis 11:53 No.

Guest 11:54 I have a saying about the Me Too movement. It's believe all women, believe no actress.

Shane Gillis 11:59 I like it.

Guest 12:00 Yeah, they're all just fucking actors too, but it's hard... They're all fucking crazy.

Joe Rogan 12:03 Well, there are some-

Guest 12:05 They're all fucked up.

Joe Rogan 12:05 ... that are cool. You know-

Guest 12:06 Sure.

Joe Rogan 12:07 ... they, they exist.

Guest 12:08 You should have a grain of salt whenever they say something like that.

Joe Rogan 12:10 Chris Pratt's cool as fuck.

Shane Gillis 12:11 Well that's an actor.

Guest 12:12 Yeah, they're trying to destroy him.

Joe Rogan 12:13 Scott Eastwood cool as fuck.Pratt's the man.

Shane Gillis 12:15 Mm, he's the man.

Joe Rogan 12:15 Pratt's Clint Eastwood's son? Pratt- Pratt's the man.

Shane Gillis 12:17 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 12:17 He's a great guy. I mean, a great guy. I've hung out with him. I've- I've-

Shane Gillis 12:20 Oh, really?

Joe Rogan 12:21 ... gone elk hunting with him.

Shane Gillis 12:22 Whoa.

Joe Rogan 12:23 I h- I hung out with him in Hawaii, just randomly.

Shane Gillis 12:25 That's probably why they're trying to get him.

Joe Rogan 12:25 Ran into him in Hawaii. Yeah, he's tr- he's Christian.

Guest 12:27 Anything those people say publicly, though, you gotta be like, you're in- you're involved and your image, uh, it's like you can't trust anything.

Joe Rogan 12:34 Sort of.

Shane Gillis 12:34 But the Christian thing, they're like, he hates gays, his religion hates. But so does a lot of the Muslim stuff.

Joe Rogan 12:40 Yeah.

Shane Gillis 12:41 So why don't you go after them? They don't like the gays and they throw the rock at the lady and, uh, you know. There's all kinds of stuff going on.

Guest 12:48 (laughs) Yeah, that's what you got?

12:49 They throw the gay rock.

12:51 At the lady and hit them with rocks.

Joe Rogan 12:52 I'm just... I, I, I have, I have musc- I have many Muslim friends.

Guest 12:54 Why are you saying that?

12:55 (laughs)

Shane Gillis 12:55 (laughs) But I'm just saying, it's like, how come he don't get mad at everybody?

Joe Rogan 12:58 Well, it just exposes the, the weirdness of woke 'cause it's not consistent or logical. Doesn't, it doesn't make any sense sometimes.

Shane Gillis 13:05 Right.

Guest 13:05 It's a team.

Shane Gillis 13:06 It's what you choose.

Guest 13:06 It's just a team.

Joe Rogan 13:07 Well yeah, it is, it is.

Guest 13:08 They can't figure it out.

Joe Rogan 13:09 It's also people that are cowards and they're terrified of someone coming after them, so they wanna be on the right side that's the most aggressive.

Shane Gillis 13:16 Uh-huh.

Joe Rogan 13:16 And the most aggressive side is the woke side.

Shane Gillis 13:18 But will it flip?

Joe Rogan 13:19 It's flipping. It's flipping already, if you look at the elections. I mean, there's, there's places that were, like, historically Democrat that are going red now 'cause people are freaked out. They're freaked out at schools, they're freaked out about l- uh, ideology, they're freaked about the workplace and-

Shane Gillis 13:34 Gas prices.

Joe Rogan 13:35 And also, like, look at what happened with SpaceX. SpaceX just, uh, a bunch of employees just organized to try to... They wanted to do something about Elon Musk, try to get Elon Musk to step down from space.

Shane Gillis 13:46 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 13:46 Literally something he founded.

Guest 13:48 It's fucking low- low to nothing.

Joe Rogan 13:48 They tried to get him... They were saying that he's, uh, he's damaging them by being on Twitter and they were trying to get people to sign this petition. And so they-

Guest 13:56 Are you crazy, going after your boss publicly?

Joe Rogan 13:58 ... f- they fired, they fired the people and they said that they were bullying people to try to get them to sign a petition that they didn't wanna sign. So, they-

Guest 14:05 Oh, right.

Joe Rogan 14:06 ... w- which is what they do. They scare people.

Guest 14:07 You should sign this. You should sign it. They're like, ugh.

Joe Rogan 14:09 Yeah, be on the right side of history. They thought they could push him out.

Shane Gillis 14:12 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:12 You know, they're like, "What he's doing with, with Twitter is wrong." And...

Guest 14:15 The people that... They were doing this, uh, they protested Louie at some comedy club, all the local comics. And then when it was o- like, shouldn't, don't support this club. And then, uh, and then afterwards they're like signing up for spots at the club and the owner was like, "No."

Shane Gillis 14:28 You're mean.

Joe Rogan 14:28 (laughs)

Guest 14:28 You guys told people not to support my business.

Joe Rogan 14:30 Yeah, get the fuck outta here.

Shane Gillis 14:31 It's bullying.

Guest 14:32 (laughs)

Shane Gillis 14:32 It is bullying. It is bullying.

Joe Rogan 14:34 It is bullying. It's, I mean, it's the same exact kind of feeling that the person gets when they're being attacked. You just think you're justified in doing so.

Guest 14:41 Uh-huh.

Shane Gillis 14:41 Right.

Joe Rogan 14:42 You know, you're not trying to have a dialog or a discussion with someone. You know, you're, you're, you're literally trying to attack their livelihood and you're trying to do it in this, like, really weird way.

Guest 14:50 C- can I tell you what I'm feeling? "I'm not interested in hearing from you."

Joe Rogan 14:53 Yeah.

Guest 14:53 It's like, no.

Shane Gillis 14:53 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 14:54 Yeah.

Guest 14:55 Yeah, can I defend myself a little?

Joe Rogan 14:56 Nope, shut, shut the fuck up and go away.

Guest 14:58 No, it's your time to shut up. It's like, okay, that's-

14:59 You're a white man with a reverse Hitler mustache drinking Bud Lights.

15:03 I'm not sure what could be more woke.

Shane Gillis 15:06 Oh, reverse Hitler. It's true.

Guest 15:07 Reverse Hitler. Reverse Hitler mustache.

Shane Gillis 15:08 You're going the other way.

Guest 15:09 Yeah. That was Milo's best moment, was when he told those girls, like, they were like, "You can't talk, you're, we're talking about women." And then when they were just like, "We're talking about men right now, you need to shut up."

Shane Gillis 15:15 (laughs)

Guest 15:16 And he gave them the go away. It was like, damn.

Shane Gillis 15:18 (laughs)

Guest 15:18 They were so mad.

Joe Rogan 15:20 They shut that guy down, huh?

Guest 15:21 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 15:22 Interesting.

Guest 15:22 Wouldn't let him speak.

15:24 Yeah.

15:24 Wouldn't let him be anywhere.

Joe Rogan 15:25 No, but I mean now. I mean, he's like Marjorie Taylor Greene's intern.

Shane Gillis 15:29 No.

Guest 15:29 Who's that?

Joe Rogan 15:30 Yes.

Shane Gillis 15:30 That's hilarious.

Joe Rogan 15:31 Yes, yes.

Guest 15:31 She's fucking nuts.

Shane Gillis 15:32 She's cuckoo.

Joe Rogan 15:33 She's cuckoo nuts.

Guest 15:33 She's out of control.

15:35 Who is that? Who is that?

Joe Rogan 15:36 She's QAnon nuts. Alex Jones told me he was partying with her.

Shane Gillis 15:38 (laughs)

Guest 15:39 Jesus Christ. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 15:39 They all went to dinner and had drinks.

Guest 15:40 Who is she? Who is she?

15:40 She says she's wild.

15:41 (laughs)

15:41 I believe it. She does anal, no doubt about it.

15:43 She is wild, dude.

Joe Rogan 15:44 You think so?

Guest 15:44 Oh, she is a freak.

Joe Rogan 15:45 Ass to mouth, yes or no?

Guest 15:46 Yeah, easily. Jewish space laser-

15:48 (laughs)

15:48 ... right up the pooper.

15:50 Who is she?

Joe Rogan 15:50 What did you say, Jewish space lasers?

Shane Gillis 15:52 That's her thing.

Guest 15:52 Didn't you say that Jews had space lasers or something?

Joe Rogan 15:53 She's wild.

Shane Gillis 15:54 She actually said that publicly, that Jews have space lasers.

Guest 15:56 She got hit... I got some friends that succumb to Q, also.

Shane Gillis 15:59 Listen... Really?

Guest 15:59 Yeah, it's the best.

Joe Rogan 15:59 No, they don't.

Guest 16:00 Yeah.

Shane Gillis 16:01 Really?

Guest 16:01 They, they believe Q.

16:02 It's the best.

16:03 Now they're like, "Fuck."

Shane Gillis 16:04 It is anti-pedophile, so they got that.

Guest 16:06 We got tricked. Yeah.

16:06 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 16:06 Did you see that documentary?

Shane Gillis 16:07 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 16:08 The HBO documentary?

Guest 16:09 On QAnon?

Joe Rogan 16:10 Yeah, enter... What is it... uh, Into the Storm?

Guest 16:13 Marjorie.

Joe Rogan 16:13 Marjorie Taylor Greene's (laughs) space laser-

Shane Gillis 16:15 Trump won!

Joe Rogan 16:15 ... and the age-old problem of blaming the Jews.

Guest 16:17 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 16:17 Oh my God.

Shane Gillis 16:18 You never saw that?

Joe Rogan 16:19 This is so... No!

Shane Gillis 16:20 This was huge.

Guest 16:21 That's a sick fucking mask. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 16:21 I try to stay offline as much as I can.

Guest 16:23 Yeah, that mask.

16:23 Point the finger at the Jews. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 16:25 Why conspiracy theorists always end up pointing the finger at Jews-

Guest 16:28 'Cause we're dominant.

Joe Rogan 16:29 ... well, that's a problem for the GOP.

Shane Gillis 16:30 And ugly.

Joe Rogan 16:31 Explain this, Ari.

Guest 16:31 What?

Joe Rogan 16:32 Why are Jews so goddamn smart? And what, it... there... you told me this once.

Guest 16:35 Genetically.

Shane Gillis 16:36 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 16:36 No, but there's a thing about-

Shane Gillis 16:37 Inbreeding.

Joe Rogan 16:37 ... the disproportionate amount of Jews who've won Nobel Prizes. It's really spectacular.

Guest 16:41 Yeah. Yeah, we're, we're-

Shane Gillis 16:41 Is that right?

Joe Rogan 16:42 European Jews.

Shane Gillis 16:43 Ah.

Guest 16:43 Our culture values... European Jews. Our culture values education, hard-

Shane Gillis 16:48 Yeah. Yeah.

Guest 16:48 ... and, and we're just like... and we're, look, we're not great athletes.

Shane Gillis 16:51 (laughs) But you got a fire under your ass too because of what happened. So you, like, you gotta make hay while the sun's not holocaust-ing.

Joe Rogan 16:55 Yeah, but they were, they were winning-

Guest 16:57 Fire under your ass.

Joe Rogan 16:57 ... Nobel Prizes even before that.

Guest 16:58 Fire under your ass might not be the best way to describe-

Shane Gillis 17:00 All right, fire in the oven.

Guest 17:01 (laughs)

Shane Gillis 17:02 Sorry.

Joe Rogan 17:02 (laughs)

Guest 17:02 (laughs)

17:02 (laughs)

Shane Gillis 17:02 What happened. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 17:03 Yeah, yeah. I don't know 'cause the Sephardic Jews aren't, aren't as successful. They're not as smart. They're still pretty smart, not as smart.

Shane Gillis 17:08 Sort of.

Guest 17:08 It is interesting that every conspiracy theory does end at Jew.

17:11 At Jews.

17:11 Yeah, I wonder why that is.

Joe Rogan 17:13 Well, the simple ones.

Shane Gillis 17:13 Well, you control the weather.

Joe Rogan 17:14 The really dopey ones.

Guest 17:15 I wonder why that is.

17:15 They're working on it.

Joe Rogan 17:16 Because they're too smart.

Shane Gillis 17:16 (laughs)

Guest 17:16 Maybe it's 'cause that's where you guys are, dude. Maybe you are back there.

Joe Rogan 17:18 But they're so smart and I think people get jealous.

Guest 17:21 Yeah.

Shane Gillis 17:22 Yeah.

Guest 17:22 It validates. They're evil.

Joe Rogan 17:23 I mean, look at fucking Einstein. Right?

Guest 17:24 We stick to ourselves and do well.

Joe Rogan 17:26 Yes.

Shane Gillis 17:26 Right? I mean, think about how many European Jews. I mean, they, they've, they've actually done, like, a study on it. Like, the number of... it's, it's so preposterous when you look at the actual number of European Jews-

Guest 17:36 Yeah.

Shane Gillis 17:36 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 17:36 ... versus the general population of the world-

Guest 17:38 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 17:38 ... and the number of European Jews that have won Nobel Prizes. It's off the charts.

Guest 17:42 Yeah.

Shane Gillis 17:42 They're killer.

Guest 17:42 No, I'd... yeah.

Joe Rogan 17:44 But meanwhile, the whites, the real whites- Not like the whites like me.

Guest 17:48 The real whites.

17:49 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 17:49 The real whites.

Shane Gillis 17:49 (laughs)

Guest 17:49 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 17:50 I'm, I'm a Guinea. I'm a weird white.

Guest 17:51 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 17:51 But those whites, like the Marjorie Taylor Greene whites, they always wanna blame the Jews.

Shane Gillis 17:55 Yeah.

Guest 17:55 What is that exactly?

17:56 Why?

17:57 And it's weird because-

Joe Rogan 17:57 Jealousy.

Guest 17:58 I heard Holtzman talking about it once.

17:59 Jealousy.

17:59 Onstage.

Shane Gillis 17:59 What are we talking about?

Guest 18:00 Onstage, he goes... and some Jewish lady was in the audience. He goes, "Why do people hate the Jews?" She goes, "I don't know." He goes, "Well, you think if everybody hated me, I'd ask a couple questions."

Joe Rogan 18:07 (laughs)

Shane Gillis 18:07 That's a good point.

Guest 18:08 (laughs)

Shane Gillis 18:09 It's true.

Joe Rogan 18:09 Oh, it's been... (laughs) Oh, this is so funny.

Shane Gillis 18:12 But it's weird because you can't always tell who's a Hebe, you know? Like-

Joe Rogan 18:15 (buzzer sounds) For you- for you, it's obvious. You're like a- a cartoon character.

Guest 18:18 (laughs) Yeah, it's... You're crazy looking, dude.

Joe Rogan 18:19 But I'm just saying- You're like a R. Crumb cartoon.

Guest 18:22 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 18:22 If you hate Asians, you hate Black people, you can spot them. With Jews, you gotta be like, "What's your last name?"

Guest 18:26 We blend-

Joe Rogan 18:26 You ever see the R. Crumb cartoons about Jews?

Guest 18:28 The Genesis?

Joe Rogan 18:29 Oh, pull them up.

Guest 18:30 Genesis-

Joe Rogan 18:30 R. Crumb. You know R. Crumb?

Guest 18:31 Yeah, yeah. He did a whole thing on the Bible.

Joe Rogan 18:33 Bro, R. Crumb, what, uh, th- his... I watched his documentary. They did a documentary on him in like '99, '98, something like that. And I, I've seen it before, but I watched it again the other day. Holy shit was his stuff nuts. He had some stuff about this family that, uh, you know, stays together because they fuck.

Guest 18:51 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 18:51 What? And like in the cartoon, it's like the guy mouth fucking his daughter and-

Guest 18:56 He went hard.

Joe Rogan 18:57 Oh, Jesus Christ. Wait, who is this guy? R. Crumb.

Guest 18:59 R. Crumb. He's a cartoonist.

Joe Rogan 19:00 He's a cartoonist?

Guest 19:00 No, I know. Yeah, but what, what do I know him for?

Joe Rogan 19:03 He did Genesis. He did a... But he was already famous when he decided to do the Bible. He did some famous-

Guest 19:06 But he has this big buxom like, like figure-

Joe Rogan 19:08 Wait, what? He did Genesis? He's a very famous-

Guest 19:10 Yeah, he did the whole bible in this style.

Joe Rogan 19:11 ... Sega underground, uh, comic book guy.

Guest 19:15 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 19:15 Who back in the day, like he, he dropped acid and then all of a sudden he started doing these like really weird surrealist cartoons. And art, beautiful. And the women all had like giant legs and giant asses. Like that's his thing.

Guest 19:28 Real buxom, buxom.

Joe Rogan 19:28 Yeah. And so a lot of women were like really happy that he did this because he made them hot. Right. Because like he was a superstar back in, like the '70s. Really?

Guest 19:38 He was on late night talk shows.

Joe Rogan 19:39 Yes. What?

Guest 19:40 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 19:40 Oh, yeah. He's a really, really interesting guy who would not stand... He, he moved to France-

Guest 19:45 Yeah, the laid back, like, uh-

Joe Rogan 19:47 He moved to France-

Guest 19:48 ... keyboard trucker.

Joe Rogan 19:48 But if, if he lived today like he would last for like five minutes before he'd be canceled. Like look at- Whoa! Look at how he's banging that girl and choking her. That's hot.

Guest 19:55 Wow, that's pretty hot.

Joe Rogan 19:55 It's wild stuff. But they're always giant women.

Guest 19:57 And nude, importantly.

Joe Rogan 19:59 And they would always... They would always, like watch- (laughs)

Guest 20:00 You should see those videos. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 20:01 No. He would carry them around on his back or on... Uh, she would rather carry him around on her back. He's a really weird guy. Oh, N-word. Yeah, there's a lot of that. Really? There's a lot of... Oh, my God, like heavy racism in some of that.

Guest 20:13 He's throwing it in the pot.

Joe Rogan 20:14 (laughs) But he was mocking that racism. But if you just take it in, you know, out of... Like see how he's like riding this girl's back? Ah, that's awesome. Like that was his thing. Like in the, in the documentary he actually has this big girl and he's like riding her back. He's ahead of his time. He's doing thick. See if you can find-

Guest 20:29 Yeah, he was, he was-

Joe Rogan 20:30 Thick women. Thick with foresies.

Guest 20:31 Fucking doing good.

Joe Rogan 20:32 See if you can find the, the one he did on the Jews, 'cause he did like this cartoon on the Jews and that's what you look like, Ari. (laughs)

Guest 20:37 Oh, let's see it.

Joe Rogan 20:38 So he was published, like this wasn't like a backdoor thing. Oh!

Guest 20:41 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 20:41 He was huge! Really? Huge. Very, very rich Jewish fans.

Guest 20:44 I would, I would whack off to that back then.

Joe Rogan 20:46 Sure.

Guest 20:46 Before the internet and shit like that- That's all we got?

Joe Rogan 20:47 Oh, yeah.

Guest 20:48 I'd be whacking off to that.

Joe Rogan 20:48 I was jerking off to Hot for Teacher.

Guest 20:51 Yeah, that's a good one.

Joe Rogan 20:52 << Got it made. Got it made. Got it made. >> That was a hot video.

Guest 20:54 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 20:54 << I'm hot for teacher. >>

Guest 20:55 That was a hot video.

Joe Rogan 20:56 What is that?

Guest 20:57 I don't know. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 20:57 (laughs) No, he did- he did... (laughs)

Guest 21:01 He put it up. I don't know. I don't know. I just think... (laughs) It seemed like it was the right time.

Joe Rogan 21:04 Heb. Holy shit. Yeah. Did he draw all these? Yeah, yeah. He's- And some of these aren't great. Some of them, he's in trouble. Some of them, if anybody ever kicked in...

Guest 21:14 Oh, shit.

Joe Rogan 21:14 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Guest 21:14 Some of these are pretty fucking bad. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 21:15 See that? The get, the get whitey one-

Guest 21:17 The end take over America.

Joe Rogan 21:17 (laughs) ... over there? That get whitey one, left-hand side?

Narrator 21:20 Well...

Joe Rogan 21:20 Oh, yeah, yeah. That one too. The right one. Yeah. See that one over there?

Narrator 21:24 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 21:24 The far right?

Narrator 21:25 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 21:25 Let's not even say anything.

Narrator 21:26 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 21:26 Let's just keep moving. Yeah. This isn't how I wanted to get started on this guy. It's too early. This is a hard, it's a hard situation. All right, all right, all righty. You're not finishing those beers. (laughs) Are you really keeping up with Shane with beers? No, I'm just drinking. I'm just drinking. No, it's just the idea. Oh, you're trying to keep up with him. I'm just drinking. Out of baby... You have three beers in 10 minutes. This is not- No.

Guest 21:45 You're doing good. You're doing good.

Joe Rogan 21:46 You or something? What up, guys? Can't a fucking grown adult drink?

Guest 21:49 We need, uh... You know the case.

Joe Rogan 21:49 I took a, I took six weeks off drinking. How long are you willing to drink? We won't need the case. Good for you. I, I very admire- R.E.'s. I very much admire your work ethic, the way you handled preparing for your special. It was very impressive.

Guest 22:00 Thanks. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 22:00 He didn't do any boozing. (laughs) I offered him weed, he said nay. He said nay to the weed.

Guest 22:05 Wow, nay to the weed?

Joe Rogan 22:07 Why? I drank some NAs while, while I was here in Austin. Not alcoholic. During the week at the creek. Yeah, I got to blend in.

Guest 22:11 That's all for show, the NAs.

Joe Rogan 22:13 No, no, no. He did it. Yeah, he did it. I was trying to get my skin looking good for my special. It looks good. Is, is that what the idea was?

Guest 22:18 Dude, I saw myself in a bathroom in, in Vail and it was bad. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 22:22 That's booze.

Guest 22:23 Sunken eyes, bro.

Joe Rogan 22:23 It's sitting in ya.

Guest 22:24 Just flasking all day and drinking all night.

Joe Rogan 22:26 Not sleeping.

Guest 22:26 And I'm like, "Oh."

Joe Rogan 22:27 The fat face, it's real.

Guest 22:28 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 22:28 With the booze, you're puffed up. Oh, yeah. Tell Burt. Tell Burt. Someone tell Burt. (laughs) Speaking of which, can you throw over that BT? Yeah. Whoa, you're getting in.

Guest 22:38 There you go.

Joe Rogan 22:38 Look at this kid. Told you. You know this. No, no, don't, don't, don't. Jesus Christ. (laughs) Come on, I played little league. (sighs) (laughs)

Guest 22:45 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 22:46 That's a JRE special bottle.

Guest 22:49 (laughs) There we go.

Joe Rogan 22:49 They made us a, yeah, they made us a barrel. Buffalo Trace made us a barrel. That's nice. It actually has the logo on it. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. So we're drinking JRE Buffalo Trace and smoking JRE Foundation cigars.

Guest 23:01 Those Foundation cigars are the shit.

Joe Rogan 23:03 They're fucking very good, right?

Guest 23:04 We're taking a trip out there. We're getting ready to go see the, like the farms and stuff.

Joe Rogan 23:07 Oh, yeah. Nick's-

Guest 23:08 Nick and Bobby.

Joe Rogan 23:08 Nick's awesome. The, the... What they're doing over there is really cool. And the, like when he made me a cigar I was very skeptical. I was like, "You're making me a cigar?" I thought it was a novelty cigar. Yeah, but it's a damn good cigar. It's very good. Like I go right to him. He knows his shit, you know. Cigars are like wine or like anything else. Like the people that really... Like Bobby.

Guest 23:25 Bobby Kelly, yeah.

Joe Rogan 23:26 They really know their shit. They really know.

Guest 23:28 I don't like... I'm, I'm getting into cigars. I, I, I struggle with them.

Joe Rogan 23:31 Me too.

Guest 23:32 I don't love them.

Joe Rogan 23:33 I love them. I love them. I'm working on it.

Guest 23:34 It's, it's a fun just chill moment. I took Reggie Conquest in Buffalo-

Joe Rogan 23:38 (laughs)

Guest 23:38 ... and I was like, "Let's go to cigars." He's like, "Okay." And we... I got him a nice smooth one and he goes, "I thought this was like $200 each." (laughs) I'm like, "Dude, it's $11 for a nice one." (laughs) .

Joe Rogan 23:46 No. There's some great cigars that are very reasonably priced.

Guest 23:49 I think it's, I think it's for kings.

Joe Rogan 23:49 No, I'm not worried about the price. I just... (laughs) I always, I always inhale it. Inhale it, can't inhale. Cigars are great for men and they're great for women you can't trust.

Guest 23:55 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 23:57 Monica Lewinsky. (laughs)

Guest 23:59 That's pretty good.

Joe Rogan 24:00 You know what I'm saying?

Guest 24:00 (laughs) T-shirt.

Joe Rogan 24:01 Women want to smoke cigars and hang out with the boys.

Guest 24:04 Yeah, it's a problem.

Joe Rogan 24:05 Yeah, I don't have any girlfriends. Oh, you don't have any girlfriends? Really?

Guest 24:08 Yeah, you don't like women?

Joe Rogan 24:09 Interesting.

Guest 24:09 I'll make that for you.

Joe Rogan 24:10 (laughs)

Guest 24:10 That makes two of us, idiot.

Joe Rogan 24:12 (laughs) Ooh. Idiot. Idiots, funny.

Guest 24:17 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 24:17 But some- somebody said that once, like never trust a girl who doesn't have girlfriends.

Guest 24:22 ... that's true. But-

Joe Rogan 24:23 It's very true.

Guest 24:23 ... the older they get, they- they lose all their friends.

Joe Rogan 24:25 Okay, well, let's reverse that.

Guest 24:26 Yeah. (laughs)

24:26 They really don't have friends.

Joe Rogan 24:26 But hold on, but let's reverse that. Never trust a man who doesn't have men friends.

Guest 24:30 Totally.

Joe Rogan 24:30 That's way worse.

Guest 24:31 That's y'all, that might go way more than 100. (laughs)

24:33 Way more, way more.

24:33 That's either a gay guy or just a pervert.

Joe Rogan 24:35 Right.

Guest 24:36 Yes. He's a white knight.

Joe Rogan 24:37 'Cause a creep... 'cause a woman could be friends with her husband or her boyfriend, and just go out with her, you know, with her hu- her boyfriend or her husband's buddies, and that seems reasonable to me. But a guy who only hangs out with his girlfriend and his girlfriends' girlfriends-

Guest 24:51 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 24:51 ... get the fuck outta here. You don't have any guy friends?

Guest 24:54 I'd excuse it if you're trying to fuck them all. But not if it's just that two friends.

Joe Rogan 24:57 If it's a long, slow game.

Guest 24:58 Long- long game, yeah.

24:59 But you should still have long-

24:59 That's fucking crazy, man.

25:00 ... friends to go back to.

25:02 Anybody doing any long game is a male.

Joe Rogan 25:05 What?

Guest 25:06 I don't like it.

25:06 Long game works.

Joe Rogan 25:07 Sometimes-

Guest 25:08 Long game, fucking blows me.

25:09 Long game.

Joe Rogan 25:09 That's 'cause, that's 'cause you're a big funny guy. You're a big tall funny guy, and there's a type of girl who goes for a guy like you.

Guest 25:15 Yeah, it's fat chicks. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 25:20 (laughs)

Guest 25:20 (laughs) His girlfriend's very beautiful.

Joe Rogan 25:21 She's gonna get me a pizza after. (laughs)

Guest 25:22 Beautiful cool lady.

Joe Rogan 25:24 But you know what I'm saying?

Guest 25:24 Yes, I can't believe you said that about my lady, dude.

25:26 She's beautiful.

Joe Rogan 25:27 He said she's beautiful. What the fuck?

Guest 25:28 No, that's fucked up, dude.

25:29 I mean, great in bed. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 25:31 (laughs)

Guest 25:31 (laughs)

25:33 How do you think she found out about your stuff? (laughs)

Joe Rogan 25:35 Showed her. (laughs)

Guest 25:36 Wah-wah-wah.

25:37 Well, now I know you don't know her. (laughs)

25:42 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 25:42 (laughs)

Guest 25:42 Comedy, baby.

Joe Rogan 25:43 (sighs) She's gonna be excited about that.

Guest 25:45 Woo!

Joe Rogan 25:45 I like how you went with the little phone. You're a fucking animal.

Guest 25:48 I need a pocket. That shit comes out of my pocket, I can't get my thumb all the way upside.

25:51 Oh, the iPhone mini?

25:52 I love it.

Joe Rogan 25:52 This is the mini. I'm- I'm jealous of the person who-

Guest 25:55 Yeah, the five was the best size-

25:56 That's all you need.

25:56 ... then they finally went back to it.

25:57 Exactly.

Joe Rogan 25:57 Look at this. This thing disappears in my hand. Look at this.

Guest 25:59 It's perfect.

Joe Rogan 26:00 Look how little that is.

Guest 26:00 You got a-

Joe Rogan 26:01 So perfect.

Guest 26:01 ... crazy gorilla monkey pox hand. (laughs)

26:03 (laughs) Yeah.

Joe Rogan 26:04 Fucked up monkey pox hands. (laughs)

Guest 26:05 Look at that thing.

26:05 You got fucked up monkey pox hands. (laughs)

26:07 Look at that.

26:07 Dude. (laughs)

26:07 You gotta climb the Empire State.

Joe Rogan 26:09 They're not... They don't fit most of my body.

Guest 26:11 I think I didn't get enough food when I was small.

26:14 Yeah, you got fucked up proportions, dude. Can you wear those? (laughs)

26:16 Action figure.

Joe Rogan 26:17 For real, you look like a gorilla up on stage.

Guest 26:20 Someone in my ancestor fucked a monkey.

26:22 You're a silver hack. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 26:25 (laughs)

Guest 26:25 All right. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 26:26 He can't help himself.

Guest 26:28 He can't stop.

26:28 Get the man a pastrami Reuben.

26:30 Nonstop. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 26:30 (laughs)

Guest 26:30 He has to... He has to say... He word associates-

26:33 Word associates.

26:34 ... and has to say... So, the other night, we went out to Stubs, or last night, got barbecue. The waitress goes, "Ex- pardon my reach," and reaches over and goes, "Jack Reacher." (laughs)

Joe Rogan 26:42 (laughs)

Guest 26:42 He says-

Joe Rogan 26:43 He can't help it. (laughs)

Guest 26:44 (laughs) He says it, dude. It's crazy. (laughs)

26:46 I'm just a monster. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 26:46 I don't know what else to say. I got nothing else to say.

Guest 26:48 You don't have to say anything. You go, "All right." (laughs)

Joe Rogan 26:51 I guess you're right. (laughs)

Guest 26:51 He just has to say it. (laughs)

26:53 Reach around.

Joe Rogan 26:55 (laughs)

Guest 26:56 (laughs) Yo, chug that.

Joe Rogan 26:57 So, tell me about... He's already hammered.

Guest 26:59 We got three hours.

Joe Rogan 26:59 So, tell me about these, uh, fucking, uh... We got as many hours as we want, boys.

Guest 27:03 Yeah, bro. That's right.

Joe Rogan 27:03 How about that?

Guest 27:04 Good point.

Joe Rogan 27:04 We don't have a boss.

Guest 27:05 That's right, (laughs) no bosses.

Joe Rogan 27:07 Tell me about... We don't have any bosses. We got through life. We're feeling-

Guest 27:10 Me and Norman were talking about it last night at the fucking pool at a fucking nice hotel.

Joe Rogan 27:13 It's crazy, man.

Guest 27:14 We're like, "This is sweet, bro."

27:15 What a life, what a life.

27:16 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 27:16 This is sweet.

Guest 27:16 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 27:16 I had this conversation with my mom last night, 'cause my mom was like, "You work so hard." And I go, "I don't though, Mom. It's a trick."

Guest 27:23 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 27:24 I'm like, "I really don't. Everything I do, I love doing."

Guest 27:26 You got scheduling, but all you gotta do is show up and shoot the shit.

Joe Rogan 27:28 Yeah, but it's not hard. It's really-

Guest 27:30 Sit in a nice hotel, talk to my friends, shitting my pants.

27:32 Yeah.

27:33 Just enjoying this weather.

Joe Rogan 27:34 I can't believe I, I can't believe I missed this shit. I- I- it must've been-

Guest 27:36 You left. Right after I left.

27:37 It might have been right after you left, it might have been bef- I- I was sitting there.

Joe Rogan 27:39 How long did you guys stay?

Guest 27:41 A good- good hour.

Joe Rogan 27:42 Wow.

Guest 27:42 We really bonded, yeah.

Joe Rogan 27:43 Oh, wow. Fuck, I miss the bonding?

Guest 27:45 It was a hot bond.

27:46 Hot bond.

27:46 And a hot ass.

Joe Rogan 27:48 It was hot as shit out there.

Guest 27:49 He wants Barry Bonds.

Joe Rogan 27:50 (laughs) Saving Bond. (laughs)

Guest 27:54 Barry Bonds, he's getting in on it. Now, we're talking.

27:56 It's fun.

27:56 Easy.

Joe Rogan 27:57 Look, no- nobody's better off the cuff with word association-

Guest 28:01 Come on.

Joe Rogan 28:01 ... than Hinchcliffe.

Guest 28:02 Oh, yeah?

Joe Rogan 28:02 Hinchcliffe is a fucking monster at that shit.

Guest 28:05 Oh, yeah.

28:05 There you go.

Joe Rogan 28:05 But you'll- you'll see tonight-

Guest 28:06 How we doing?

Joe Rogan 28:06 ... when you guys do... You're not doing it? What are you doing?

Guest 28:08 No, I'm not smoking.

Joe Rogan 28:09 What the fuck?

Guest 28:09 Tough shit.

28:09 Can- can I just say, so many jokes, bro.

Joe Rogan 28:10 It's great, though.

Guest 28:10 If everyone's in a- in a- in a circle-

Joe Rogan 28:12 You have to.

Guest 28:12 ... and you're passing weed, people go, "No, thanks." Take it, hand it off.

Joe Rogan 28:16 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Guest 28:17 You don't have to... You- you don't have to do anything, just hand it.

Joe Rogan 28:19 Don't call attention to yourself.

Guest 28:20 Did it right.

28:20 Yeah. It's the first weed I smoked in fucking...

Joe Rogan 28:23 How long?

Guest 28:25 Five weeks.

Joe Rogan 28:26 What?

Guest 28:26 That'll put you on the moon too. That's real.

Joe Rogan 28:28 (laughs)

Guest 28:29 (laughs)

28:29 Do it.

Joe Rogan 28:30 And you're gonna see the spots where-

Guest 28:31 And you po- promised you'd keep up with me on Bud Lights.

Joe Rogan 28:33 (laughs)

Guest 28:33 What is promise?

28:34 Well-

28:34 You said it. He- you saw him issue it.

28:36 I did see it.

Joe Rogan 28:36 Yes.

Guest 28:36 He issued it. I told him I'd give him $5000 if he did.

Joe Rogan 28:39 It was basically a fuck wad.

Guest 28:40 And he's... Yeah.

28:41 Witness.

28:42 Five grand, dude. You can do it.

Joe Rogan 28:44 Isabel?

Guest 28:45 We got a bet going, boys.

28:46 I- I don't have any... My reward will be him trying.

Joe Rogan 28:50 (laughs)

Guest 28:51 I said I couldn't do it.

28:52 (laughs)

28:53 I said if I- if I- I said if I gave half as much to him, I would die.

Joe Rogan 28:54 (laughs) I said if I gave you $5000, you would die.

Guest 28:55 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 28:55 But you gotta keep up with him tonight too.

Guest 28:57 That's where it's a problem.

Joe Rogan 28:59 Yeah, you'll- you'll be ready to tap out.

Guest 29:01 (laughs)

29:02 I'm- I'm already ready.

Joe Rogan 29:02 15 more, 15 more of the bullshit.

Guest 29:04 I told you, I could drink five cans of water.

29:06 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 29:06 That's it.

Guest 29:06 I don't know how he does it.

29:07 You can do it.

Joe Rogan 29:07 Yeah, me too.

Guest 29:07 That's my point.

29:08 That's what this shit is.

29:09 It's water.

Joe Rogan 29:10 (laughs)

Guest 29:10 You can drink a ton of it. I mean, don't get me wrong, if you drink a lot of it, you're gonna get fucked up.

Joe Rogan 29:15 (coughs) What is the, um, amount of alcohol in a Bud Light?

Guest 29:18 It's low. It's like 3.5.

29:20 I think it's some.

Joe Rogan 29:21 Do you like the taste?

Guest 29:23 Yeah, I like it.

29:24 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 29:24 It's fine.

Guest 29:25 I mean, now I know.

Joe Rogan 29:26 Yeah, it's not bad cold. I like it cold.

Guest 29:27 Where it is. Ice cold.

Joe Rogan 29:28 Give me one of them. I'll drink one.

Guest 29:29 Yeah.

29:31 It ain't no- it ain't no Chang.

29:34 Nice. Gorilla hands. Catching that banana. (laughs)

29:39 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 29:39 (laughs)

Guest 29:39 (laughs)

29:39 You see the- you see the focus on that? He was like...

29:41 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 29:43 (laughs)

Guest 29:43 Well, you didn't play sports. You were more of a- a fighter and a-

Joe Rogan 29:46 I played a little bit of baseball.

Guest 29:47 Oh.

Joe Rogan 29:47 And then leaving a baseball game is how I really got into martial arts.

Guest 29:51 Leaving a baseball game?

29:52 Fist fight?

Joe Rogan 29:52 Yeah, no, I was leaving Fenway Park.

Guest 29:54 You mean a karate fight?

Joe Rogan 29:54 No, leaving Fenway Park and, uh, I was walking-

Guest 29:56 And then the fight broke out like usual? (laughs)

Joe Rogan 29:58 No. I- I was... We were bored and it took too long to get on the T because everybody was leaving, so the T was crowded.

Guest 30:03 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 30:03 And so, uh, me and my- my friend Jimmy was like, we were like 14. And, uh, I walked up this, uh, this street and, uh, there was a karate school, a Tae Kwon Do school. And I went up the stairs, and right when I was going up the stairs, there was this guy named John Lee. Oh, yeah, get it, it's Jimmy. And he was, uh, national champion. He was training for the World, uh, Cup. And I- I got to watch him prepare, like, I just walked in as a, you know, a bystander.

Guest 30:26 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 30:27 And I- I walked in, like, at the peak of his training, at the top of his game, you know, national champion. I got to see what he could do. I was like, "Holy fuck, I wanna do that."

Guest 30:36 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 30:36 He was kicking his bag.... and I remember just being flabbergasted.

Guest 30:40 The leg kick-

Joe Rogan 30:40 But it was because of my love of, of baseball. Huh. Baseball brought me into martial arts. Isn't that wild? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Guest 30:45 The leg kick, the leg kick does make you wanna do it.

Joe Rogan 30:47 That's a good look.

Guest 30:48 When you see, when you hear that fa-fump!

30:48 When you were fu-... With any video you post of you fucking hitting the bag, I'm like, "Goddamn, dude."

Joe Rogan 30:52 Huh. Yeah. It's fun.

Guest 30:53 No, you've never seen a leg kick until you see him kick Eleanor in the butt. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 30:57 (laughs)

Guest 30:57 (laughs)

30:57 She would, like, do it, and he would go, "Woo-ka!"

Joe Rogan 31:00 (laughs)

Guest 31:00 Who?

31:01 Eleanor Kerrigan. It would make this (claps) sound.

Joe Rogan 31:03 It was- Oh, shit. That was with the foot though. That was more of, like, a loud noise-

Guest 31:06 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 31:06 ... than an actual-

Guest 31:07 (laughing) That's pretty awesome.

Joe Rogan 31:08 It didn't hurt her.

Guest 31:08 She would just laugh.

Joe Rogan 31:08 See what he was doing.

Guest 31:09 She would just die laughing.

31:10 Are you, are you hitting this week?

Joe Rogan 31:10 No, no, I got- Eleanor's so strong. ... cigar and booze. She'd grab me and, like, do her pro wrestling shit on... Remember when we went to see her pro wrestle? Were you with us? What? She wrestles?

Guest 31:19 I was with.

Joe Rogan 31:19 She went li-... She's, she's a l-... She was a legit pro wrestler.

Guest 31:22 Easy Rider.

Joe Rogan 31:24 Easy Rider. What?

Guest 31:24 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 31:24 Yeah.

Guest 31:24 Yeah, we went to Staples Center.

Joe Rogan 31:25 Dude, she was great.

Guest 31:26 Wow.

Joe Rogan 31:26 Holy shit.

Guest 31:27 That's exciting.

Joe Rogan 31:27 She, her thing was-

Guest 31:28 It was great.

Joe Rogan 31:28 ... like, she would like, she would be a motorcycle rider, she would crush a pool ball in her hand, like, grrr. (laughing) That's hilarious.

Guest 31:33 It was so much fun.

Joe Rogan 31:34 It was awesome.

Guest 31:35 It was so much fun.

Joe Rogan 31:35 'Cause she's hilarious- Yeah. ... she's hilarious- She's cool. ... and, like, there she is. (laughs)

Guest 31:39 What the fuck?

Joe Rogan 31:39 Oh, my God. Look at that! Look how- That's hardcore Irish Philly genes right there, ladies and gentlemen.

Guest 31:45 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 31:45 Literally, jeans. Yeah.

Guest 31:46 She was a bag of wonderful wrestling.

Joe Rogan 31:47 She was in jeans. (laughing) Yeah. It was really fun. This is wild. It was really fun. Good for her. And she's fantastic on the mic, too. She was great on the mic. But we went to s- all see her live.

Guest 31:55 Damn, look at these lesbians.

31:56 Bro, I still got my-

Joe Rogan 31:56 Bro, these girls-

Guest 31:57 I still got my ei-

Joe Rogan 31:57 ... go at it. Wow.

Guest 31:58 Yeah, Harley's Angels. She was part of Harley's Angels.

Joe Rogan 32:00 Yeah.

Guest 32:00 I still got my shirt.

Joe Rogan 32:01 It was awesome. What? It was awesome. Dude, I didn't- Oh, kick to the face! Oh!

Guest 32:06 Oh!

Joe Rogan 32:06 That looked real. Good for her. Oh! Oh.

Guest 32:08 She got my eight.

Joe Rogan 32:08 You know who's also gotten into pro wrestling? Ron Funches. No way. Ron, Ron Funches did a actual pro wrestling match. He had a singlet on. It was on TV, the whole deal.

Guest 32:18 That was his normal bathing suit.

Joe Rogan 32:19 And Ron is...

Guest 32:20 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 32:20 Ba-dum-bum. Ron is a giant pro wrestling fan.

Guest 32:23 Sure.

Joe Rogan 32:23 So for him, this is probably, like, a fucking dream come true for him.

Guest 32:27 Let's see.

Joe Rogan 32:27 Is he in this?

Narrator 32:28 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 32:29 We gotta- What? ... find him. There he is. Ron Funches.

Guest 32:31 No way.

Joe Rogan 32:31 Yes. He came out in a robe and everything. I mean, he was straight-faced. He played it up. The real deal.

Guest 32:36 Hammed it.

Joe Rogan 32:37 I love blueberries. Yeah! Look at him, look at him. (laughs)

Guest 32:39 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 32:41 Good for Ron.

Guest 32:42 No, he loves that shit. He knows it.

Joe Rogan 32:44 He loves pro wrestling. So for him, this is a, a giant deal, you know?

Guest 32:47 Oh my God.

Joe Rogan 32:48 Oh.

Guest 32:48 (laughing)

32:48 Buy a gold.

Joe Rogan 32:48 Hey, give the guy credit. Yeah, good for him. Give the guy credit for fucking going out there like that.

Guest 32:53 Yeah. What's the... He's the Black Pair.

32:54 Look at that, with the Rasheed Wallace in the background.

Joe Rogan 32:56 The Black Pair.

Guest 32:56 Who's his manager, the judge? What is that?

Narrator 32:59 Looks like Paul Shere, but I can't tell.

Guest 33:00 Oh, that's not a judge. It's a priest.

Joe Rogan 33:03 Oh, shit. They're squaring off.

Guest 33:05 Dude, he trained for this.

Joe Rogan 33:07 Yeah, for sure.

Guest 33:07 God damn.

Joe Rogan 33:08 Definitely. Ro-... Oh, oh, that's a little f-... That's a little gimme. A little bit of a gimme there.

Guest 33:12 (laughing) It's a joke. Come on, let's get over that part.

Joe Rogan 33:14 That's pretty good right there. There you go. So I, I guess-

Guest 33:16 Damn, he's probably so fucking tired. (laughing)

Joe Rogan 33:19 Already? I always thought he was wrestling with his sexuality.

Guest 33:20 He's so tired. (laughs)

Narrator 33:21 He's like, "Damn."

Joe Rogan 33:22 You thought he was wrestling with his sexuality?

Guest 33:24 I tra-

Joe Rogan 33:24 Good for him.

Guest 33:25 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 33:26 (laughs)

Guest 33:26 Yeah. They're gonna... Yeah. That's it, that is it.

Joe Rogan 33:27 Ron's the man.

Guest 33:27 That's funny.

Joe Rogan 33:29 That's great. Who else is in... Well, Tony's a, a giant pro wrestling fan. Sutter. They actually offered Hinchcliffe a job writing for the WWE.

Guest 33:37 Sutter.

Joe Rogan 33:37 But he didn't want to do it because he'd have to move to Connecticut.

Guest 33:39 Oh, right. That's the thing.

33:40 Move to New York.

Joe Rogan 33:41 He was, he was like, "I can't do this. I don't wanna do this." Yeah. Also, he would've had, been on call, he would've, you know, he would've had to go-

Guest 33:47 Of course.

Joe Rogan 33:48 He would've fucked with his comedy. Yeah.

Guest 33:49 Who was the more fun commissioner of any sports league? Forget baseball, basketball.

Joe Rogan 33:52 Dana White.

Guest 33:53 It's, it's either Vince McMahon or Dana White.

Joe Rogan 33:54 Or Dana White.

Guest 33:54 They're the l-... They're heads ahead.

Joe Rogan 33:55 Both of them are right up there. Right up there. But Dana White keeps... He's more authentic.

Guest 33:59 You know who else owns all the other leagues?

34:01 What?

Joe Rogan 34:01 He has to be. He has to. It's a real sport. (laughing) It's a real sport.

Guest 34:03 You guys.

34:04 Oh, yeah. We're good.

Joe Rogan 34:05 What's that?

Guest 34:05 You guys get to the top of the league, the commissioners.

34:07 Commish.

Joe Rogan 34:07 Yeah.

Guest 34:08 Because we can't play. You guys are busy playing. We're busy running and taking profits.

34:11 (laughing) Me and the Irish fucking guys.

34:13 That's right. Enjoy the front lines, literally.

34:15 No, we're out, we're out eating popcorn and drinking.

34:17 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 34:18 There was a lot of famous Jewish boxers in the- That's right. ... beginning of the 20th century.

Guest 34:21 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 34:22 A lot.

Guest 34:22 You guys used to be tough, before Dominicans got into it.

Joe Rogan 34:24 You had to be.

Guest 34:25 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 34:25 You were struggling.

Guest 34:26 They were tough. Jews were tough.

Joe Rogan 34:26 Well, it was, it was, uh, Jews, and then there was, uh, a lot of Irish and Italians, and a lot of Black people, and then a lot of, uh, Puerto Rican people. And then a bunch of, like, Cubans and Mexicans, and all that stuff. But in the early, early days, like the 20th century, there was a lot of Jews.

Guest 34:42 Was it?

Joe Rogan 34:42 World champions.

Guest 34:43 I liked, I liked when they said, uh, "Yeah, we were, like, low class."

34:45 Typi-... It's typically who has it worse at the time-

34:47 Right.

34:47 ... is doing the best of boxing.

Joe Rogan 34:49 Exactly. Yeah, exactly.

Guest 34:50 Right.

Joe Rogan 34:50 Who needs it the most.

Guest 34:52 Yeah. I like the days of, like, when Max Schmeling fought whoever-

Joe Rogan 34:54 Yeah.

Guest 34:54 ... and, like, they're like, it's not about the, any talent. It's like, "The Black man could never beat the white man." (laughs) That's always-

34:59 Yeah.

34:59 That's how they'd break it down.

Joe Rogan 35:00 And he won. He won the first one. Well, Sch-... Schmeling was the Nazi boxer.

Guest 35:03 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 35:04 But he was forced into that position.

Guest 35:05 Yeah.

35:05 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 35:05 Apparently, Schmeling was a nice guy. And Hitler propped him up because he was a German, and he knocked out Joe Louis in their first encounter. Yeah. And then when Joe Louis destroyed Schmeling in the rematch, it was like a giant victory for America.

Guest 35:18 Wow.

35:18 Schmeling salts.

35:19 Box it.

Joe Rogan 35:20 (laughs)

Guest 35:21 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 35:22 (laughs) Help himself.

Guest 35:24 That's, that's the crazy thing about sports. Like, the whole country was racist, Black people were gross, whatever. But watching Joe Louis fight this German motherfucker-

Joe Rogan 35:32 (laughs)

Guest 35:33 Wow. ... you got behind him.

35:34 Yeah.

35:34 They all got behind the black guy.

Joe Rogan 35:35 I think, I think Joe was standing on something. There were, there wasn't...

Guest 35:37 Oh.

Joe Rogan 35:37 The height difference was not that big.

Guest 35:38 (laughs) Good point.

Joe Rogan 35:39 The height di-... I think you... Yeah. Yeah. That was, that was what the height difference was like. That makes more sense. I think Joe was, uh, on the, on the scale, getting weighed in.

Guest 35:45 That Kraut knocked him out?

Joe Rogan 35:47 Yeah, he knocked him out in the first fight.

Guest 35:49 Damn.

Joe Rogan 35:49 Wow.

Guest 35:49 He was underaged.

35:51 He was trained.

35:51 You don't see that too often.

Joe Rogan 35:52 No. It's just, he... Joe was young, you know?

Guest 35:55 Yeah, new.

Joe Rogan 35:56 He just... Wasn't... Joe Louis had some of the pr-... most perfect technique in the, the history of the heavyweight division.

Guest 36:01 He looks like Jim Carey there.

Joe Rogan 36:01 The way he would throw a right hand, no, no telegraphing it at all. He would just shoot it. So, just p-... Play the rematch.

Guest 36:08 That's pretty cool, their buddies when they're old there.

Joe Rogan 36:10 We don't wanna see that one where-

Guest 36:10 That's pretty nice. Oh, there he is with Hitler. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 36:13 (laughs) Whoa!

Guest 36:15 There's Hitler.

Joe Rogan 36:15 Holy shit.

Guest 36:16 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 36:16 His favorite boxer.

Guest 36:17 Hey.

36:18 There he is with Adolf Hitler.

Joe Rogan 36:19 Isn't that crazy? Wow. Look how crazy that is. You gotta win or they'll kill you, you know?

Guest 36:25 Damn.

36:25 Yeah, I thought only Jews were there on that.

Joe Rogan 36:26 You guys ever see the video... You ever see the video of Hitler at the '36 Olympics tweaking on meth?

Guest 36:31 No.

Joe Rogan 36:31 What? It's amazing. Pull it up.

Guest 36:34 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 36:34 He's just sitting there, like, rocking back and forth.

Guest 36:36 Oh, my God.

36:36 (laughs)

36:36 Like, can barely keep it together.

Joe Rogan 36:37 Oh, and just flying. He's like, "Goddamn it." I mean, he's gacked out of his... And notorious meth user. Sure they all were.

Guest 36:44 What?

Joe Rogan 36:44 Yeah. Yeah.

Guest 36:45 That was, like, my favorite Bill Burr.

Joe Rogan 36:46 You didn't know that?

Guest 36:47 No.

36:47 That was my favorite Burr bit.

36:47 All I knew is he liked to shut his chest shirt off.

Joe Rogan 36:49 He had a bit about Hitler?

Guest 36:50 Burr, Burr had a bit about Hitler. And then he's like, "Can you imagine getting in a limo-"

Joe Rogan 36:55 ... with an even angrier Hitler after that race.

Shane Gillis 36:58 Right.

Joe Rogan 36:58 Like, after he sat there and watched-

Shane Gillis 36:59 Oh, wow.

Joe Rogan 37:00 ... Owens fucking torture him.

Shane Gillis 37:01 Oh.

Joe Rogan 37:01 He, like, puts down his foam finger and he's like ... (babbles) (laughs)

Shane Gillis 37:04 Look at him. Look at him there, tweaking.

Joe Rogan 37:06 Whoa!

Shane Gillis 37:08 Isn't that wild?

Guest 37:09 Wow.

Joe Rogan 37:10 Damn.

Guest 37:11 'Cause no one knew you had to hide it then. They're like, "I don't know."

Joe Rogan 37:12 They didn't even know what was going on.

Guest 37:14 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 37:14 They thought he was just really pumped up.

Guest 37:15 He was pumped up for the Olympics.

Joe Rogan 37:16 That's wild. Look how crazy that is. It's like Robin Williams before a gig. Look how crazy that is.

Shane Gillis 37:21 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 37:21 Ah!

Guest 37:21 What?

Joe Rogan 37:22 Holy shit.

Shane Gillis 37:22 He did meth a lot?

Joe Rogan 37:23 Oh, yeah. He did a lot of meth. Yeah, yeah.

Guest 37:24 Is that why there were researchers to make like a perfect soldier?

Joe Rogan 37:27 Yes.

Guest 37:27 Like, get them all methed up?

Joe Rogan 37:27 Well, they were, they were, they realized when people are on meth, they're fearless. They have crazy energy. Do you probably know the story of Hitler confronting Mussolini? Hmm. Mussolini wanted to get out of the war, and Hitler t- was like, apparently he was so fatigued that he was at the point of exhaustion. And they shot him up with testosterone and meth.

Shane Gillis 37:46 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 37:46 And t- and, and then he went straight to Mussolini and talked his fucking ear off- (laughs) ... for like five hours. "We're gonna start a bar." He's like, "Yeah." "We're best friends." (yells) "I love you." Yells.

Guest 37:55 "Mussolinis. Mussolinis, it sounds good."

Joe Rogan 37:57 Yeah. (laughs)

Guest 37:57 "We're gonna do it. Fuck yeah."

Joe Rogan 37:58 "It's a pizza shop. I got the idea." (laughs)

Guest 38:00 "Fuck yeah, I did it."

Joe Rogan 38:00 "I made a blueprint." "I love that." And Mussolini was all in. He's like, "Oh, okay." What was it-

Guest 38:04 Wasn't that... I think that was, like, Hitler's, like, best friend. I think he was, like, was like-

Joe Rogan 38:07 Aw.

Guest 38:07 ... Mussolini is the man.

Joe Rogan 38:09 You're charming on coke.

Guest 38:10 I could be wrong.

Joe Rogan 38:11 Well, it was the... uh, uh, I think it was just f- he just b- beat him to death with his voice. Right. I think that was the story. I think... I don't know what he's saying 'cause I don't speak German.

Guest 38:20 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 38:20 But when you listen to him talk, when he's addressing those giant crowds, like, who was a better orator?

Guest 38:26 Amazing.

Joe Rogan 38:26 Who was a better?

Guest 38:27 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 38:27 Trump? Like, you know, in, in terms of... But not even maybe. Reagan, Trump. But, but it's like you can't do- Obama was- ... that kind anymore. No, no. This is what I'm saying.

Guest 38:34 Oh, like-

Joe Rogan 38:35 You can't do that- Ah! ... angry. You can't... No one will allow that anymore.

Guest 38:38 Yeah, passionate.

Joe Rogan 38:38 Mussolini was nice. Il Duce? You ever see, like he was-

Shane Gillis 38:41 That's it. That's okay.

Joe Rogan 38:41 He would talk and then he would stop and go... (head shakes) Oh, let's see Mussolini then.

Shane Gillis 38:45 Oh, pull him up.

Joe Rogan 38:45 We'll see Mussolini.

Shane Gillis 38:45 I've never watched.

Guest 38:46 I've never seen him. I've never seen him.

Joe Rogan 38:47 I see, I think Hitler's probably better so we'll watch Mussolini first. Hitler is, Hitler is... (laughs) And Hitler will be the closest to solid.

Guest 38:51 You know who else is the best?

Shane Gillis 38:52 Rip?

Guest 38:52 Fucking Churchill, dude.

Joe Rogan 38:54 Oh, yeah.

Guest 38:54 Churchill ruled.

Shane Gillis 38:55 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 38:56 Yeah.

Guest 38:56 Here, before we bring it up. Churchill, they had to bring him out of the fucking... he was just drinking whiskey, he was a fucking loser.

Joe Rogan 39:02 They literally have a cigar- Damn, really? ... named after him. Dude just- They brought him out of the bullpen, they were like-

Shane Gillis 39:06 (laughs)

Guest 39:06 "You're the only dude in England that can talk shit at this level."

Shane Gillis 39:10 Really?

Joe Rogan 39:10 Wow.

Guest 39:10 It's incredible, dude.

Shane Gillis 39:11 He drank a lot back then.

Joe Rogan 39:11 How was Mao? Was Mao any good?

Guest 39:13 Yo, he drank-

Shane Gillis 39:13 He was good.

Guest 39:14 He drank a lot.

Shane Gillis 39:15 He drank a lot.

Joe Rogan 39:16 Yeah. Yeah, he would go hard. He looked like he went hard.

Guest 39:18 He had a, he had a schedule.

Joe Rogan 39:19 Oh, yeah. A drinking schedule?

Guest 39:19 It's like a, it's like a-

Joe Rogan 39:21 Queen.

Guest 39:21 ... not Hunter S. Thompson type, but it's that type of thing where it's like, morning whiskey, I'll, I'll type something, fucking aft- like, 9:00 AM whiskey.

Shane Gillis 39:29 Yep.

Guest 39:30 It's crazy.

Shane Gillis 39:31 You know who else does that-

Guest 39:31 Cigar, whiskey.

Shane Gillis 39:32 ... is, uh, Queen Elizabeth. She has, like, a gin and tonic, then a gimlet, and then a-

Guest 39:35 It's working out.

Shane Gillis 39:36 ... you know, like, Flor Loco or whatever. But she's-

Guest 39:38 (laughs) She's a Flor Loco.

Shane Gillis 39:39 She, she has a schedule with booze.

Joe Rogan 39:41 She's dead. Di- died of COVID.

Shane Gillis 39:41 Well, when you're that old-

Joe Rogan 39:43 No.

Shane Gillis 39:43 ... she didn't though.

Joe Rogan 39:44 Early on. Oh, yeah.

Shane Gillis 39:45 She survived.

Guest 39:46 Nope.

Shane Gillis 39:46 You think it's a prop?

Joe Rogan 39:46 Nope.

Guest 39:47 Replaced her?

Joe Rogan 39:47 No. Duncan thinks that the Biden that fell off the bike yesterday-

Shane Gillis 39:50 That's a fucking young man, dude.

Joe Rogan 39:52 ... was a fake Biden.

Shane Gillis 39:52 No.

Joe Rogan 39:52 You think it's a body double?

Guest 39:54 Did you see his fucking body?

Shane Gillis 39:55 Pull it up. Let's see it.

Joe Rogan 39:56 Biden's got a nice bod. (laughs) Yeah, Biden has nice legs. Don't hate. I think you're hating.

Guest 40:01 I was... I couldn't have been happier to watch that guy (laughs) fall off that fucking bike.

Joe Rogan 40:05 (laughs)

Shane Gillis 40:05 That's how high gas prices are.

Joe Rogan 40:06 I'll be honest. He is the gift that keeps giving. If you're not a Biden fan- I haven't seen it yet. Let's see it.

Shane Gillis 40:12 It's fun.

Joe Rogan 40:13 Oh wait, spoiler alert. (laughs)

Guest 40:13 Wait, you haven't seen this?

Joe Rogan 40:14 No.

Shane Gillis 40:14 That's him.

Guest 40:15 Holy shit, dude.

Joe Rogan 40:16 I think that's him, dude. Watch the video of him falling.

Guest 40:17 Yeah, it's, it's definitely him.

Joe Rogan 40:18 There's a video of him falling.

Shane Gillis 40:20 Oh.

Joe Rogan 40:20 Oh, he knows too. He looks pretty toned.

Guest 40:22 It's so sad.

Joe Rogan 40:23 Says, "I'm good."

Guest 40:23 Wait, he's already wearing-

Joe Rogan 40:24 He's good. He's not wearing kneepads. I think above it is the video. That's it. No?

Guest 40:28 It's so sad.

Shane Gillis 40:29 Should've had a knee pad.

Joe Rogan 40:30 I hope it's just a wobble. He didn't have any knee pa... No, he goes down hard. Can I see? (laughs) Once the wobble starts.

Guest 40:35 Oh, shit.

Shane Gillis 40:35 No, no wobble, dude.

Joe Rogan 40:36 He's got good legs. What does he hit? Grass?

Shane Gillis 40:37 Beautiful.

Joe Rogan 40:38 He hits grass, right? That's why I'm kind of amazed that he falls down so much, 'cause if you look at his legs-

Guest 40:41 (cheering)

Joe Rogan 40:42 ... they look pretty sturdy. So he gets there and-

Guest 40:45 Oh, that'll fuck you up.

Joe Rogan 40:46 No, we didn't see it.

Guest 40:48 (cheering)

Joe Rogan 40:48 Fake. Oh.

Guest 40:50 (cheering)

Joe Rogan 40:51 Fake.

Shane Gillis 40:51 He couldn't stop.

Joe Rogan 40:51 Imagine every time you fell- Now I know. 'Cause one of those.

Shane Gillis 40:53 ... that many people would help you up?

Joe Rogan 40:55 Didn't see it. Didn't see it in that shot. No, no. There's plenty of other, other videos. Look at that guy smiling 'cause he got it.

Shane Gillis 40:59 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 40:59 That guy looks so happy. You see the excitement in his thumbs.

Shane Gillis 41:02 Yeah, he's gonna get promoted.

Joe Rogan 41:03 I mean, no matter what, you see somebody fall off a bike, you're happy. Yeah. Yeah.

Shane Gillis 41:06 Come on.

Joe Rogan 41:07 You're happy. But when they're that old, it becomes really funny. Like, if a 20-year-old guy falls like that, it's not as funny- It's not great. ... as a 79-year-old guy falling like that. Yeah.

Shane Gillis 41:15 The president.

Joe Rogan 41:15 (laughs) The president coming up and being like, "Hey, everybody." Who-

Shane Gillis 41:18 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 41:18 (laughs) ... who falls more than him? 'Cause it used to be they used to joke around about Gerald Ford being clumsy.

Shane Gillis 41:22 That's right.

Joe Rogan 41:23 That was the last guy that they talked about being a klutz.

Shane Gillis 41:25 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 41:25 What do you mean, that's right?

Shane Gillis 41:26 He fell a lot. That was like his thing.

Joe Rogan 41:28 Gerald Ford?

Shane Gillis 41:28 Yeah, he would fall walking up the Air Force One stairs.

Joe Rogan 41:30 You don't know? That's great. No.

Guest 41:32 You didn't know that?

Joe Rogan 41:32 Yes. (laughs) Oh, here he goes. Here he goes. Stupid ass. Here he goes, he's down. Oh.

Shane Gillis 41:35 Oh, he couldn't stop.

Joe Rogan 41:36 He was stopped. What was that? Well, his foot got stuck in the little fucking pedal thing- Oh. ... and he thought he was gonna put... he was gonna lean his weight on his right leg, but he had already put his f- tried to get his foot out of the pedal thing and he already committed to going down. He's like, "Me," he goes- God damn it. ... "I'm fine."

Shane Gillis 41:48 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 41:49 He shook it off. (laughs) He shook it off.

Guest 41:50 He's taking it easy.

Joe Rogan 41:51 He's talking to kids now. "I'm fine."

Guest 41:52 By the way.

Joe Rogan 41:52 Taking it. Who's he talking to? He got up, he got up well too. Yeah, he did.

Shane Gillis 41:55 That's a hard fall.

Joe Rogan 41:56 I think he's talking to a young'un.

Shane Gillis 41:57 He's all right.

Guest 41:58 He does love the young'uns. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 41:59 He does love... He'll just smell them.

Shane Gillis 42:00 Aw.

Joe Rogan 42:01 Smells their hair. Is that Bob Sager behind him? Bob's dead. Shut up. I... You sure?

Shane Gillis 42:04 It's funny, before it was like, "Didn't he get assassinated?"

Guest 42:07 (laughs)

Shane Gillis 42:07 "Oh, no, it's Biden. He just took a spill."

Joe Rogan 42:10 Oh, right.

Guest 42:10 Yeah, Biden... It, it's such a... That'd be so funny to be like the PR people on that and be like, "We're gonna get you... You're gonna be riding a bike. Everybody's saying you're not spry."

Shane Gillis 42:17 Right.

Guest 42:18 "Here we go."

Joe Rogan 42:18 Speaking of assassinating-

Guest 42:20 Just fucking like, "Damn it, I'm fired."

Shane Gillis 42:20 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 42:20 Speaking of assassinating, you know, Hinckley just got out of jail.

Shane Gillis 42:23 He's doing shows?

Joe Rogan 42:24 He's completely-

Guest 42:24 Hinckley's the GOAT, dude.

Joe Rogan 42:25 Well, he's, he's doing-

Shane Gillis 42:26 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 42:27 ... shows but the first venue that had him in Brooklyn, they canceled.

Shane Gillis 42:30 I saw that.

Joe Rogan 42:30 'Cause they were getting so many death threats.

Shane Gillis 42:32 I had tickets.

Joe Rogan 42:33 Who? Old people?

Shane Gillis 42:34 (laughs)

Guest 42:35 I, I would see Hinckley. That'd be hilarious.

Shane Gillis 42:36 He's a good musician. His, his songs are pretty solid.

Joe Rogan 42:40 Really? Wait, what?

Shane Gillis 42:40 Yeah, pull 'em up.

Joe Rogan 42:41 All right, pull 'em up.

Guest 42:41 He had a lot of time.

Shane Gillis 42:43 Hell yeah.

Joe Rogan 42:43 He had a lot of time to work on songs.

Shane Gillis 42:44 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 42:44 Now, Hinckley's good at singing? Yeah.

Shane Gillis 42:45 It's solid, yeah. It's like singer songwriter type stuff.

Joe Rogan 42:48 You're not thinking about Manson? No, no, no.

Shane Gillis 42:50 Marilyn?

Joe Rogan 42:51 No. Manson has good songs. Here we go. Here we go.

Shane Gillis 42:53 Oh, really?

Joe Rogan 42:53 Here we go. Let's get ch- let's get some. Oh. Let's get some John Hinckley.

Shane Gillis 42:55 Oh, shit.

Narrator 42:56 You're doing great. Um, so- He looks like Farr from, uh, Super Troopers. (laughs)

Guest 43:01 ... my new single.

Joe Rogan 43:03 (laughs)

Guest 43:03 The song is called The Places I Have Been.

Joe Rogan 43:06 Nowhere.

Guest 43:06 And it's available on Spotify.

Narrator 43:08 (laughs) He been in jail for 40 years.

Joe Rogan 43:09 For real? (laughs)

Narrator 43:09 Places I Have Been.

Guest 43:11 SLP. SLG.

Narrator 43:11 The shower, the mess hall.

Guest 43:13 ... on all the streaming sites. So check him out when you get a chance.

Joe Rogan 43:16 All right, dude. Don't... No lead up.

Narrator 43:17 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 43:17 Here we go.

Narrator 43:17 Get to it.

Joe Rogan 43:18 All right, dude, lemme hear what you got.

Narrator 43:20 Cut to it.

Guest 43:21 (guitar playing)

Narrator 43:22 He's still on Spotify.

Guest 43:24 You're in my dreams most every night.

Joe Rogan 43:28 Oh.

Guest 43:28 You're still looking fine.

Narrator 43:31 Bob Dylan.

Guest 43:32 Yeah, he's got a lotta Bob Dylan influence. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 43:35 He's got '60s in him.

Guest 43:37 I'm so glad you're mine.

Narrator 43:39 You can drug test his eyes.

Guest 43:41 Life here on earth is black and white.

Joe Rogan 43:41 Yeah, dude. I guess that M- that MKUltra worked.

Narrator 43:44 Real his eyes.

Joe Rogan 43:44 They got him.

Guest 43:44 The sun's not out today.

43:46 (instrumental music)

Joe Rogan 43:47 Yeah.

Guest 43:47 I will wait.

Narrator 43:47 Do you think that's what they did?

Guest 43:49 I will wait.

Narrator 43:50 Do you think he was, like, one of the Manchurian candidates?

Joe Rogan 43:52 Not gonna start it, bro.

Guest 43:53 Yeah.

Narrator 43:53 That song sucks.

Guest 43:53 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 43:53 You know what was cra- that song was fucking crazy. (laughs)

Guest 43:56 That song was not good at all.

Narrator 43:56 I've never heard it in my life.

Joe Rogan 43:56 Maybe there's a better one.

Guest 43:57 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 43:57 Oh, Can't We Get Along! He's got a song called Can't We Get Along.

Narrator 44:00 (laughs) Oh, please.

Guest 44:01 You and I are fr- uh-

Narrator 44:02 Play it.

Guest 44:03 Hello, everybody.

44:05 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just take it to the middle there.

Joe Rogan 44:06 Shout out to Jodie Foster, what up?

Guest 44:09 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 44:09 Jodie, I'm still here for ya. I don't believe in lesbians.

Guest 44:13 Everybody's fighting here and there.

Joe Rogan 44:16 This is terrible.

Guest 44:17 No, it's good.

Joe Rogan 44:18 (laughs) Yeah, you gotta play the Charles Manson song. This one's better.

Guest 44:20 Play the best Charles Manson song on Spotify.

Joe Rogan 44:22 All right. Play MKUltra then, boy. It's good. They refunded my tickets.

Guest 44:24 Oh, yeah.

44:24 I think it's time we do. Can't we get along? All day long. Starts with me and you.

44:34 Looks like John Caparulo.

Narrator 44:35 Yes.

Guest 44:36 Yeah, little bit.

Narrator 44:36 Cappy.

Joe Rogan 44:37 He's got the jams though, for real.

Narrator 44:39 I'm telling you this is Solid. This is good folk.

Guest 44:41 Right, now that you know Tinkley-

Narrator 44:42 Yeah.

Guest 44:42 ... it's funny.

Joe Rogan 44:43 Yeah, it's not good.

Guest 44:44 Bad.

Narrator 44:44 And he's gonna get laid. There's a woman who's into every kinda guy-

Joe Rogan 44:47 100%.

Narrator 44:48 ... and he's gonna get laid.

Guest 44:49 100%.

Joe Rogan 44:49 The kind of guy who has the balls to shoot at Reagan-

Guest 44:51 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 44:51 ... and hit him.

Guest 44:51 They should fuck him.

Joe Rogan 44:52 And hit him. I'd fuck him. And out- and outlive him.

Guest 44:54 You can, you can-

Narrator 44:55 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 44:55 ... and outlive him. (laughs)

Guest 44:56 (laughs)

Narrator 44:56 Yeah.

Guest 44:57 What was the... What was the... How many years did he get?

Joe Rogan 44:59 41.

Guest 44:59 41 years.

Joe Rogan 45:00 That's not bad.

Guest 45:00 How did they decide on that?

Joe Rogan 45:01 Okay, look at your game, girl. Look at your game, girl.

Narrator 45:05 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 45:05 I hate your garbage, man.

Narrator 45:07 Oh, shit.

Guest 45:07 There's a time for every time.

45:09 Yeah, he rules.

Joe Rogan 45:10 He rules.

Narrator 45:11 Free swastika.

Joe Rogan 45:12 Well, you know the whole story behind Manson.

Guest 45:14 A time so fine.

Joe Rogan 45:14 Manson actually thought he was gonna get a recording deal with Brian Wilson of the-

Guest 45:19 Yeah.

Narrator 45:19 Whoa.

Guest 45:19 The Beach Boys.

Joe Rogan 45:20 They, like... They became tight. I believe it's Brian Wilson.

Guest 45:23 Yeah, he was tight.

Joe Rogan 45:24 There was like... He knew-

Narrator 45:26 He's nutty.

Joe Rogan 45:26 ... music producers. They think it had something to do... I forget the details.

Guest 45:29 That turned him crazy.

Joe Rogan 45:29 But it had something to do with, like, one of the murders. Like, he was threatening people because-

Guest 45:32 They were like, "Hey, man. It's... I know it's pre-cancel culture, but you can't be murdering a bunch of people."

Narrator 45:37 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 45:37 This is not bad. This is not that bad.

Guest 45:38 No, listen.

Joe Rogan 45:39 Let me hear more.

Guest 45:41 Living in the confusion. Frustration and doubt. Can you ever live without.

Narrator 45:47 Three, three million.

Guest 45:48 ... the gain.

Narrator 45:51 Half the Holocaust.

Guest 45:52 A sad, sad game.

45:56 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 45:57 (laughs) Allegedly.

Guest 45:59 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 46:00 Allegedly. (laughs)

Guest 46:02 A sad, sad game.

46:02 It's good. This is good '60s music.

Joe Rogan 46:03 That's not bad. It's very '60s.

Guest 46:04 Listen to the whole album. It's great. I recommend it.

Narrator 46:07 Okay, that's a wrap.

Joe Rogan 46:07 On Spotify now. (laughs)

Guest 46:08 (laughs)

Narrator 46:08 That's a wrap. That's not that good either.

Guest 46:11 When you hear about the, the MKUltra shit, it's wild.

Joe Rogan 46:14 Did you ever read Chaos?

Guest 46:14 I don't, I don't know enough about it. No, I haven't.

Joe Rogan 46:17 You gotta read Chaos by Tom O'Neill. He's actually Fitzsimmons', uh, Greg Fitzsimmons' nextdoor neighbor-

Guest 46:23 Wow.

Joe Rogan 46:23 ... for, like, 20 fucking years. Mm. It's a crazy story. Fitzsimmons is the one who told me about the guy. He said, "Hey, I got this neighbor, he's been working on this Charles Manson book for 20 fucking years. It's been his obsession. It's ruined his life. He, he lo- he, like, had to give money back to publishers 'cause he didn't finish the book." Because he, he developed so much material, 'cause he got into it from the perspective of, like, it was an anniversary thing, the anniversary of the murders, and he was writing this book. It's called Chaos. I can't recommend it enough. It's a fucking fantastic book. And so, as he's writing the book, he, uh, realizes, like, "Oh, my God. The whole story..." It was originally an article, and they turned it into a book. But he's like, "The whole story of Manson's wrong." So what it's really about is the CIA giving LSD to hippies.

Guest 47:05 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 47:05 And he was one of the guys they experimented with. Oh. It was all part of the MKUltra experiments. I didn't know that. 100% there was some fuckery involved in Manson.

Guest 47:14 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 47:14 What? Because he kept getting outta jail easy. And the, the, the sheriffs would all say the same thing, "We're... This is above my pay grade." They had to let him out. So, he'd get... He would like... They... He was involved in murders, he was involved in robbery, all kinds of crazy shit, they let him outta jail. Tom O'Neill-

Guest 47:27 And they would just give him acid?

Joe Rogan 47:29 They... Not only did they give him acid-

Guest 47:31 Bro. Bro, you-

Narrator 47:31 They gave you-

Joe Rogan 47:31 They taught him how to use acid to manipulate people and convince them to commit murders.

Guest 47:37 Wow.

Joe Rogan 47:38 Damn. Yeah, the CIA trained Charles Manson, I think, allegedly, maybe not. Maybe somebody who was a rogue agent in the CIA. This is not official government policy. They would never allow this.

Guest 47:48 They're gonna get you.

Joe Rogan 47:49 Somebody did it.

Guest 47:50 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 47:50 They're gonna get you, man. Think so?

Guest 47:53 (laughs) I think they're trying. (laughs) Oh, fuck, it's out. It's out, fuck. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 47:58 (laughs)

Guest 47:58 They took that out.

Joe Rogan 47:59 No, we're gonna keep that in.

Guest 48:00 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 48:00 'Cause the, the book is amazing. Yeah. I think it's the old CIA. I think the CIA back then in the '60s was-

Guest 48:06 Yo.

Joe Rogan 48:06 During that MKUltra period, they were a different animal.

Guest 48:08 How about-

Narrator 48:08 Wow.

Guest 48:08 ... Joe, how about Whitey Bulger?

Joe Rogan 48:10 Oh, yeah.

Guest 48:11 Bro, Whitey Bulger?

Joe Rogan 48:11 That's FBI though. That's FBI though.

Guest 48:13 No, no, no. He was MKUltra'd.

Narrator 48:15 Was the CIA as well?

Joe Rogan 48:15 He was MKUltra'd. What does that mean? Didn't he have a deal with those people-

Guest 48:18 He was in Alcatraz, and they were like-

Narrator 48:20 "Get messy."

Guest 48:20 ... "Hey, this is for schizophrenia. We're testing this drug. This is gonna... It will lessen your time if you do this."

Joe Rogan 48:25 Oh, I didn't know that.

Narrator 48:27 Dude.

Guest 48:27 That Whitey-

Joe Rogan 48:27 He did. "Oh, my God. Juror who helped convict crime boss Whitey Bulger feels guilty after learning he was in MKUltra." Holy shit. "Whitey Bulger wrote to a juror who convinced him that he would be dosed with LSD, monitored by a physician, and repeatedly asked leading questions like, 'Would you ever kill anyone?'"

Guest 48:47 No way.

Narrator 48:47 Over 50 times.

Guest 48:49 Wow.

Joe Rogan 48:50 W- You know who else?

Narrator 48:51 High doses.

Joe Rogan 48:52 You know who else? You know who else?

Guest 48:53 What?

Joe Rogan 48:54 ... Ted Kaczynski.

Guest 48:55 What? Ah, smart guy.

Joe Rogan 48:56 Ted Kaczynski was a part of the LSD studies at Harvard.

Guest 48:59 Yeah, shut it down, dude. They're gonna kill us.

Joe Rogan 49:00 They tortured him. They tortured him.

Guest 49:01 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 49:01 They did all kinds of wild shit to him and fucked with his head. And he was an already broken man.

Guest 49:06 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 49:06 There's a great documentary on, uh, Netflix about him. About, about-

Guest 49:09 About Ruby Rose and all that.

Joe Rogan 49:11 Yeah, well, it's, the Kaczynski one is, it's all about the Unabomber. But it's like, how fucked up his childhood was. He had some kind of weird disease when he was a baby.

Guest 49:19 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 49:19 And so they put him in this hospital, where they didn't touch him at all, for months.

Guest 49:23 Wow. What? That's Nazi shit. They didn't touch him?

Joe Rogan 49:26 They didn't touch him at all, because he had this, this ill- ... No, parents weren't allowed to visit him.

Guest 49:29 Oh. Oh. Yeah, it looked like the CIA.

Joe Rogan 49:31 And when he came out of that ... Oh, I thought there was an experiment.

Guest 49:33 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 49:33 No, no, no. His development ... No, no, they experimented on him later with LSD. But this was just a fact that he was just sick, and they took him to this hospital to take care of him, and when they did, they didn't allow his parents to visit him, and no one handled him. So when he was a little fucking baby, no one was taking care of him.

Guest 49:48 (clicks tongue)

Joe Rogan 49:48 All the emotional attachment to people, they literally created a sociopath.

Guest 49:53 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 49:54 Because his brother-

Guest 49:55 Wow.

Joe Rogan 49:55 ... is the one who turned him in.

Guest 49:56 Yeah. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 49:56 His brother's a normal guy.

Guest 49:57 Right. Yo, that's what we did at Big J. We're MKUltra.

Joe Rogan 50:00 (laughs)

Guest 50:00 True. (laughs) No, you MKUltra'd him. (laughs) By the way, you ever see what happened to that cop in Oklahoma City?

Joe Rogan 50:06 Oh, no.

Guest 50:07 What cop? The shooter? What? No, this, this big fucking black dude that was ... He was like the first cop on the scene. Boy, did they suicide that guy.

Joe Rogan 50:15 What are you talking about?

Guest 50:17 Oh.

Joe Rogan 50:17 Uh, there's a cop that was like first on the scene at Oklahoma City that like, they- Timothy McVeigh? The, the bombing?

Guest 50:23 Yeah, yeah, yeah. But they, they said it was a suicide. You know.

Joe Rogan 50:27 Terrence Hickey-

Guest 50:28 Don't look into that. Don't look into that dude's autopsy.

Joe Rogan 50:30 ... was a sergeant in the Oklahoma City Police Department, who was one of the first responders at the site of the Oklahoma City bombing, rescuing at least four people. He died a year after his rescue service. Hickey was found to have committed suicide.

Guest 50:42 That's a suicide.

Joe Rogan 50:42 Oh, uh-oh.

Guest 50:42 They found, like- Why? Dude, like why, why not believe it? Uh, look up his autopsy, if you can, Joe. It's wild. What did he say? A year later he was talking?

Joe Rogan 50:51 Well, just find an article that says he ... And, and don't find any that refutes it, please.

Guest 50:55 Yeah. This is fun. (laughs) So he was at the ... He was at the bombing, and then he saw what really happened.

Joe Rogan 50:59 Apa- apparently, apparently he got into the ca- uh, he, apparently when he, the first thing he said to his wife was like, "They're not telling the story at all-"

Guest 51:05 Oh, boy.

Joe Rogan 51:05 "... of what happened." And then he got fucking ... Well, you know, there was multiple bombs-

Guest 51:10 But why did they wait a year for him to talk?

Joe Rogan 51:10 ... allegedly removed from that building. And the, the, when you look at the way the building blew up, this is like one of the granddaddies of conspiracy theories, is uh, the Oklahoma City bombing, that there's more to the story. Because if you look at the building itself, what does, what does it say there, Jim?

Guest 51:25 Hold on, I'm just gonna wait 'til you finish that one.

Joe Rogan 51:25 Okay. When you look at the building itself, um, they said it was a fertilizer bomb, which they do make, they're real. And that they parked this truck at the base of the building and blew it up. But if you look at the building, the building's blown outward.

Guest 51:37 Whoa.

Joe Rogan 51:37 Like it's blown out. Now, I'm obviously not a fucking bomb expert, but I talked to one. And he-

Guest 51:42 You should see your act. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 51:45 (laughs) He can't stop himself.

Guest 51:48 Keep going.

Joe Rogan 51:49 Ba-dum-bum.

Guest 51:49 I need some levity. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 51:50 If you look at ... If you ... It did need levity.

Guest 51:53 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 51:53 If you look at the images of the, uh, building ... If you look at the images of, uh-

Guest 51:58 (laughs) I'm not a bomb expert. (laughs) You're an animal.

Joe Rogan 52:02 You're a fucking animal, you can't be stopped.

Guest 52:05 (laughs) Jack Reacher. (laughs) It's crazy as shit. (laughs) But I'm interested in the story, I wanna hear this.

Joe Rogan 52:10 Okay, so look at it, look how it's blown out.

Guest 52:12 Oh, yeah.

Joe Rogan 52:12 Now imagine-

Guest 52:13 Blown outward.

Joe Rogan 52:13 Now imagine a truck at the base of the building causing all that damage, and the way it's blown outward. Now, it might be how a bomb would ... If you had a fertilizer bomb at the bottom of the building. But what this guy was explaining to me, and again, I don't, I don't even remember his fucking name. But the guy was telling me, it was like, "Fertilizer bombs aren't that strong. They're strong, they can kill a lot of people." He goes, "But they don't do that kind of damage to a structure." This was his perspective. He felt like there was more to the story.

Guest 52:42 I think there was stuff in there. There's always more. I forget what it was.

Joe Rogan 52:45 Well let's, uh, Google "bombs" ... Google "bombs were removed from Oklahoma City building."

Guest 52:51 Oh, boy. I juice to that. Don't forget to go back for it.

Joe Rogan 52:53 Because there was a story.

Guest 52:54 Yeah, you're gonna wanna see that autopsy. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 52:55 No, there was a story and ... We'll get to that too. We'll get to the autopsy. But there was a story in the news, in the, on TV, about they removed several bombs. This is people that were at the scene right after it happened. So before all the propaganda got into place-

Guest 53:09 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 53:09 ... allegedly, tinfoil hats securely fastened.

Guest 53:11 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 53:12 They, uh, they had these guys saying that they were, on television, that they were removing bombs from the building.

Guest 53:16 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 53:17 The unexploded bombs.

Guest 53:19 What?

Joe Rogan 53:20 Every now and then.

Guest 53:21 But why would they not cover that? And lies. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 53:22 Yeah. That's ... No, but they might, they might've fucked up there. That might not be true.

Guest 53:25 No, but it happens a lot like, especially with like a school shooting or something, where they're like, "We've heard there was a second shooter that was apprehended."

Joe Rogan 53:30 Exactly, exactly.

Guest 53:31 And it's like, and then the conspiracy people latch onto that.

Joe Rogan 53:33 Exactly.

Guest 53:34 And they'll be like, "They said that."

Joe Rogan 53:35 Exactly.

Guest 53:35 But it's like, they were just wrong. It was some fucking local fucking Fox local-

Joe Rogan 53:38 Well, that was a big thing with the 9/11 thing, with Tower 7, the way Tower 7 went down. Well, I mean-

Guest 53:44 What towers? What's Tower 7? All I hear about is that for 20 years.

Joe Rogan 53:46 I'll be honest, what you guys did to Tower 7 was a little out of pocket, dude.

Guest 53:50 You guys weren't in the building.

Joe Rogan 53:51 That was brazen.

Guest 53:51 We could've, and we did. But I thought there were two towers.

Joe Rogan 53:53 That was brazen. Tower 7 is a building-

Guest 53:56 Tower 7 fell also.

Joe Rogan 53:56 ... that was near the Twin Towers- And free-fell. (laughs) ... and it went down ... It looks like a controlled demolition.

Guest 54:01 What?

Joe Rogan 54:02 But, but if you look at the long version of the video, it's different.

Guest 54:06 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 54:06 See, the long version of the video, you see that it collapses in the center before it all collapses all around it. The way they do a controlled demolition is, they hit these bombs and they go off in an order on all these floors. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.

Guest 54:20 Right.

Joe Rogan 54:20 And the building pancakes down.

Guest 54:21 Like casinos.

Joe Rogan 54:22 What happened with September 11, when you look at the way Tower 7 falls, it falls just like in controlled demolition. But the inside of it collapses first, because there was these crazy fires inside the building, and it destroyed the structure from the inside. 'Cause there was diesel tanks in the basement apparently.

Guest 54:40 So what was that? How did those go off? From the heat from the other one?

Joe Rogan 54:42 It wasn't a go- it wasn't a go off. It was, everything started collapsing, and when the top levels collapse, everything just goes down. And the structure just fell apart.

Guest 54:51 Yeah, but what-

Joe Rogan 54:51 But it all fell apart at the same time.

Guest 54:53 From what ... Like, why did the first explosion not go down? All right, stop playing dumb.

Joe Rogan 54:56 Again-I'm neither- (laughs)

Shane Gillis 54:57 (laughs)

Narrator 54:57 Yeah, you did it, you motherfucker.

Shane Gillis 54:59 Your uncle was there.

Joe Rogan 55:00 I'm neither a bomb expert or a structure expert. I don't know how to make structures-

Narrator 55:03 What did the Tower Seven people say? What's their excuse? Why did that one go down, but it wasn't hit by a plane?

Joe Rogan 55:06 This is, that's the... I'm telling you the official story. The official story is there was a lot of damage to the building, and then there was fires in the basement.

Narrator 55:12 From what?

Joe Rogan 55:12 There was diesel... From the fucking two giant buildings falling right next to it.

Narrator 55:15 From fucking 9/11, dude. Oh. (laughs)

Shane Gillis 55:18 From being next to it, it shook.

Narrator 55:18 A plane flew into it.

Joe Rogan 55:20 They hit buildings.

Narrator 55:20 But they didn't hit this plane. (smacks lips) So they would've shook-

Joe Rogan 55:23 Okay.

Narrator 55:23 And now they're-

Joe Rogan 55:23 Two eyewitnesses inside the Murrah Building who attested they observed the bomb squad personnel remove unden... Okay, now we're back to Oklahoma City.

Narrator 55:30 Hold on. Get... You gotta see this fucking autopsy.

Joe Rogan 55:32 Jamie, you're a fucking whiz at my timeline.

Narrator 55:33 Jamie. Oh, hey, I'm back. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 55:34 It's okay. But here it gets. Two eyewitnesses inside the Murrah Building who attested they observed bomb squad personnel removing undetonated explosive devices from the building after the initial blast. But here's the thing. If you're an eyewitness... And this is a problem. Whenever anything happens, it's fucked. And this is what I was saying about September 11 with Tower Seven. Whenever anything happens that's fucked, everybody's memory is a mess.

Narrator 55:57 True.

Joe Rogan 55:57 It's a mess. You have no idea-

Narrator 55:58 True.

Joe Rogan 55:58 ... what's going on. If you seen a bunch of people die and a building collapse, you hear explosions, you think-

Narrator 56:04 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 56:04 ... you think that a guy fleeing his deli is a terrorist. It's like no one knows exactly what they're feeling 'cause it's such a novel event. It's such an unusual event that never occurs, that you're... All of your senses are on fire and you're terrified and you're, you're also shocked and-

Narrator 56:22 Your memories aren't good.

Joe Rogan 56:23 Yeah.

Narrator 56:23 You can't trust them. I'll give you that.

Joe Rogan 56:24 It's one of the worst time... That's the problem with, like, eyewitnesses after, like, someone-

Narrator 56:28 Got this. ... gets assaulted. No, Jamie, it's important.

Joe Rogan 56:30 Okay, here's the guy.

Shane Gillis 56:30 I'm saying you read it. You read it.

Narrator 56:31 Yeah, we got this.

Shane Gillis 56:31 And you're like, "Yo, you need to read this."

Joe Rogan 56:32 So here is this, this is the guy who was-

Narrator 56:36 Killed himself.

Joe Rogan 56:36 ... the, that was the first responder on the scene. What was his name again?

Narrator 56:39 Yeke. Yeke. Terry Yeke.

Joe Rogan 56:41 This is Yeke. Okay. He ran back and forth into that concrete mass of bricks and mortar all day long, continued beyond exhaustion far into the night. He scraped and crawled and dug his finger... 'Til his fingers bled, and then kept digging some more. On a cadre of heroes that day, Terry's performance was outstanding. On May 11th the following year, he was scheduled to receive the Medal of Valor-

Shane Gillis 57:02 Wow.

Joe Rogan 57:02 ... from the Oklahoma City Police Department. He never got it. He was murdered. Okay, why'd I say murdered?

Shane Gillis 57:06 He...

Narrator 57:07 They, they...

Joe Rogan 57:07 He said, they said suicide.

Shane Gillis 57:08 Bro, wait till you read his autopsy.

Narrator 57:09 (laughs)

Shane Gillis 57:09 It's all different. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 57:10 The official report said suicide, in quotes, "and anyone who believes an ANFO bomb destroyed the Murrah..." I don't know what that means. Fertilizer, I guess? Bomb. "Destroyed Murrah and the other surrounding buildings will believe this." According to the report, Terry slashed himself 11 times on both forearms before cutting his own throat twice-

Narrator 57:30 Woo.

Joe Rogan 57:30 ... near the jugular vein. Then-

Shane Gillis 57:31 Okay.

Joe Rogan 57:31 ... apparently seeking even more private place to die, he crawled another mile of rough terrain-

Shane Gillis 57:37 What?

Joe Rogan 57:37 ... away from his car and climbed a fence before shooting himself in the head-

Shane Gillis 57:42 No, that's unbelievable.

Joe Rogan 57:42 ... with a small caliber revolver. What appeared to be rope burns on his neck, handcuff bruises to his wrists, and muddy grass embedded in his slash ruins strongly indicated that he has some sort up of help, some sort of help in traversing this final distance.

Narrator 57:57 Was that corroborated? What if- Or is this, is this a Tripoli site? What if-

Shane Gillis 57:59 That's just, like, one of those, like... I mean-

Joe Rogan 58:01 (laughs) A Tripoli site.

Shane Gillis 58:02 This is the original Jesse Smollett.

Narrator 58:04 On Zeak. What a suicide.

Joe Rogan 58:04 Bro, it's riflewarrior.com. It's the most-

Narrator 58:07 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 58:07 ... prestigious establishment on the internet.

Narrator 58:08 Oh, you don't check Rifle Warrior? (laughs)

Shane Gillis 58:10 Bro, Rifle Warrior's the shit.

Narrator 58:12 Good call.

Shane Gillis 58:12 You don't check Rifle Warrior?

Narrator 58:13 Let's go full on, yeah.

Joe Rogan 58:14 (laughs)

Narrator 58:14 Bro. (laughs) It's, it's fair. What do they have to give you, huh?

Shane Gillis 58:17 I don't know.

Joe Rogan 58:17 Look at this. The bullet's entrance wound was in the right temple above the eye. It went through the policeman's head and exited in the area of the left cheek near the bottom of the earlobe. The tra- trajectily was f- trajectory was 40 to 45 degrees angle above his head. There were no powder burns. No weapon was ever reported as found at the scene, but independent investigations speculated-

Narrator 58:38 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 58:39 ... that Yeke shot himself with a standard police issue Glock nine millimeter or .357 Magnum.

Narrator 58:44 What?

Joe Rogan 58:44 His head would've been far more destroyed than it apparently was.

Shane Gillis 58:47 Interesting.

Joe Rogan 58:47 Oh, if he shot him with that.

Narrator 58:49 So he didn't shoot him with that, but-

Joe Rogan 58:51 So they, they think they might've shot him with, like, a .22.

Shane Gillis 58:54 That makes-

Narrator 58:55 The mob.

Shane Gillis 58:56 Anyway-

Narrator 58:56 I think the mob was involved.

Shane Gillis 58:56 ... I don't know what that means at all.

Narrator 58:58 I don't either, but-

Shane Gillis 58:58 But boy, did they kill that guy.

Joe Rogan 59:00 Look at this, though. Hold on a sec. Look at this.

Narrator 59:00 I'll say.

Joe Rogan 59:00 "Although the Yeke incident occurred some 30 miles away in a different jurisdiction, the investigation was quickly taken over, taken out of the hands of the El Reno police and the Canadian county sheriff, and turned over to the Oklahoma City Police Department and the FBI. No homicide investigation was ever conducted and there was no autopsy."

Narrator 59:22 Well then, what the fuck did we just think of?

Shane Gillis 59:23 That's what I was just gonna say.

Narrator 59:24 (laughs)

Shane Gillis 59:24 I was like, "How did they get this then?" But maybe they did one after