Joe Rogan Experience #1837 - Gina Carano

1. 0:00 – 15:00

   (drumbeats) Joe Rogan podcast,…

   1. NANarrator0:00

      (drumbeats) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

   2. The Joe Rogan Experience.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (instrumental music plays) And we're up for your first ever podcast, Gina Clough.

   4. GCGina Carano0:15

      Oh my goodness.

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:16

      (laughs)

   6. GCGina Carano0:17

      (laughs) What if I don't have anything to say?

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:19

      You do. I guarantee you do. D- how did you avoid doing podcasts for this long?

   8. GCGina Carano0:23

      Just saying no. I-

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:24

      Really?

   10. GCGina Carano0:24

       ... I just tell people, well, I'm, I'm kind of just don't know what's ever gonna come out of my mouth, so it's gonna get... I have, uh, no idea what we're gonna talk about today.

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:32

       Well, that's good. It's always better that way. I mean, we could talk about anything. We can talk about... Well, there was a moment, um, where you were gonna come back. You're the OG.

   12. GCGina Carano0:43

       Oh, (laughs) well, I mean, gosh, there was a-

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:46

       No, you're the OG.

   14. GCGina Carano0:48

       Thank you.

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:48

       Is, uh, d- in terms of women's MMA, who the fuck is more OG than you?

   16. GCGina Carano0:53

       I mean-

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:53

       You're the original star.

   18. GCGina Carano0:54

       ... well, like, not MMA, but like Lucia, Riker...

   19. JRJoe Rogan0:57

       Yeah. For sure. Yeah.

   20. GCGina Carano0:58

       Um...

   21. JRJoe Rogan0:58

       And Muay Thai, yeah, and in boxing, yeah, and then there's Christy Martin and-

   22. GCGina Carano1:02

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:02

       ... you know, a lot of other folks that, yeah.

   24. GCGina Carano1:04

       And then there was like the Debbie Purcells and Erin, um-

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:08

       Anne Wolf.

   26. GCGina Carano1:09

       Yeah.

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:09

       There's, there's been a lot of, like, women combat sports athletes, but in terms of MMA, you're, you're the OG.

   28. GCGina Carano1:14

       Well, I, I appreciate that coming from you. That means a lot. I always-

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:18

       What was it like back then?

   30. GCGina Carano1:19

       Um... (laughs)
2. 15:00 – 30:00

   Yeah, isn't that weird?…

   1. GCGina Carano15:00

      that said one thing negative, hateful. There was no-

   2. JRJoe Rogan15:03

      Yeah, isn't that weird?

   3. GCGina Carano15:03

      Yeah. I'm like-

   4. JRJoe Rogan15:05

      That's the... (laughs)

   5. GCGina Carano15:05

      Uh-

   6. JRJoe Rogan15:05

      You meet people in real life, they're almost always nice.

   7. GCGina Carano15:07

      But they're almost... They're so b- I feel like people are so beaten down right now from the internet, from thinking that this is how people are-

   8. JRJoe Rogan15:15

      Yeah.

   9. GCGina Carano15:16

      ... that they're, um, they're just beaten down and then they get out and I, I'm just hugging as many people as possible. I'm shaking their hands. I wish I had more time than that for, you know, those couple, three minutes with them because, you know, I'm not necessarily an extrovert. It's not like I wanna be out there, like, and talking to a bunch of people, but I feel like that's what people need right now. And, um, and I love doing it, so I'm... got, like, four more fan expos this year that they're tiring, and you have to keep your energy up for each different person. But I just think, out of all the years I'm gonna do this, it's gonna be this year so I can look people in the, the face and let them know that this isn't real life over here on the internet.

   10. JRJoe Rogan15:53

       Mm-hmm.

   11. GCGina Carano15:54

       This is real life.

   12. JRJoe Rogan15:55

       Yeah.

   13. GCGina Carano15:56

       Mm.

   14. JRJoe Rogan15:56

       And for fighters, it's particularly hard, I think, because fighting is such an emotional endeavor. There's so m- so much of who... You expose your soul to people.

   15. GCGina Carano16:08

       Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan16:08

       They see you quit or they see you succeed when you could have quit.

   17. GCGina Carano16:13

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan16:13

       They see you, how hard you train.

   19. GCGina Carano16:15

       (laughs)

   20. JRJoe Rogan16:16

       They see, uh, how well you deal with the pressure of the big moment of a huge fight.

   21. GCGina Carano16:21

       Yep. (laughs) Yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan16:21

       It is so emotional. So when, when people attack fighters, and a lot of these people are unaccomplished, uneducated, uncaring. They, they just, they don't understand what they're doing with their words when they're using them. They're just blah.

   23. GCGina Carano16:37

       Yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan16:37

       It's just like verbal diarrhea on Twitter, and they're doing it to try to be insulting and mean. And I watch fighters go back and forth with them, and I always tell them, "Hey, man, don't read that shit."

   25. GCGina Carano16:47

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan16:47

       Don't read that shit and definitely don't fucking respond. Don't-

   27. GCGina Carano16:49

       Yeah, I learned that a little bit late. Don't respond.

   28. JRJoe Rogan16:52

       Yeah.

   29. GCGina Carano16:53

       Um-

   30. JRJoe Rogan16:53

       Don't go back and forth with people. It's bad for you.
3. 30:00 – 45:00

   He does it just…

   1. GCGina Carano30:00

      do you test?

   2. JRJoe Rogan30:01

      He does it just to show off.

   3. NANarrator30:02

      To make sure.

   4. GCGina Carano30:02

      (laughs)

   5. NANarrator30:02

      (laughs)

   6. JRJoe Rogan30:02

      His gigantic an- his antibody line is like a fat Sharpie line.

   7. GCGina Carano30:06

      (laughs)

   8. JRJoe Rogan30:08

      Like, legitimately.

   9. GCGina Carano30:08

      Do you... Did... Yeah, so I think I, you know... Well, what happened was, um, I went out in Las Vegas, and I got a, a hangover, right?

   10. JRJoe Rogan30:15

       Mm-hmm.

   11. GCGina Carano30:16

       'Cause I'm not old enough to have those yet. Uh, I need to learn my lesson-

   12. JRJoe Rogan30:20

       (laughs)

   13. GCGina Carano30:20

       ... already. Um, but I went out in Las Vegas, I got a hangover, and, um, then I wasn't feeling good the next day, so I was like, "Okay, I'm not feeling good." It's right before Christmas, and I was like, um, my mom's like, "Are you sure this is a hangover?" And I'm like, "Yeah, I'm pretty sure, but if you wanna test me, I don't, you know, it's your house." And she tested me, and it was positive. And, um, it was pretty aggressive. Like, I was really, really sick for about seven days. Um, my body was aching, like, it hurt, like, I, it, like, everything hurt so bad.

   14. JRJoe Rogan30:51

       So you definitely had COVID?

   15. GCGina Carano30:52

       Yeah.

   16. JRJoe Rogan30:52

       So why are you saying, like, "I guess"?

   17. GCGina Carano30:54

       I guess I did. I mean-

   18. JRJoe Rogan30:56

       I mean, you definitely had it. You have all the symptoms of COVID-

   19. GCGina Carano30:59

       Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan30:59

       ... and you tested positive. (laughs)

   21. GCGina Carano31:00

       Fine, I had COVID.

   22. JRJoe Rogan31:01

       (laughs)

   23. GCGina Carano31:01

       I had COVID. (laughs) You, you... Um, I don't, I don't... But where did... Okay, so COVID's definitely different than the flu then? It's definitely GJ: Um, what you're saying?

   24. JRJoe Rogan31:09

       It's definitely different than the flu. It's a, this is an engineered virus.

   25. GCGina Carano31:12

       Right.

   26. JRJoe Rogan31:12

       This is a virus that was created-

   27. GCGina Carano31:13

       That they didn't purposefully-

   28. JRJoe Rogan31:14

       ... in a fucking lab.

   29. GCGina Carano31:14

       Did they-

   30. JRJoe Rogan31:14

       I don't think they did it on purpose. I really don't. No, I think, I think the Chinese lab in which they did it in Wuhan was so bad-... it would, they, they were cited for safety violations as recently as, I think, 2018. I think the real question is, why were they doing this kind of research?
4. 45:00 – 1:00:00

   Right. …

   1. JRJoe Rogan45:00

      Right.

   2. GCGina Carano45:00

      Um, and you know, I have, I have a very close friend of mine who is still masking and is still doing all this, and she says, you know, 'cause she's about, you know, 300 pounds, and she's like, "Well, I'm fat, so I, you know, I should be able to, like I have to protect myself and protect my own." And I'm like, "Well, I mean, if you want to feel better (laughs) -"

   3. JRJoe Rogan45:20

      Yeah.

   4. GCGina Carano45:20

      "... there's other places to do that, you know? Like-"

   5. JRJoe Rogan45:23

      Lose some weight.

   6. GCGina Carano45:24

      "... maybe not fried chicken."

   7. JRJoe Rogan45:25

      Yeah, get healthy. Yeah.

   8. GCGina Carano45:26

      You know?

   9. JRJoe Rogan45:27

      But, you know, we live in a culture where you're not supposed to say that. It, this was a really interesting part of the early-

   10. GCGina Carano45:32

       I hate that.

   11. JRJoe Rogan45:32

       ... part of the pandemic.

   12. GCGina Carano45:32

       Like, why, why can't we s- we're America. We're United States of America.

   13. JRJoe Rogan45:36

       Well, we can say it. You can still say it, but a lot of people are gonna freak out because-

   14. GCGina Carano45:40

       But I can, I can, I can tell people, like, "I understand. I'm not necessarily healthy all the time," you know?

   15. JRJoe Rogan45:46

       Yeah.

   16. GCGina Carano45:47

       Um, and I know that in looking in the mirror, I have to take responsibility for that. I have to take my own responsibility and not push that responsibility off on everybody else, and, um, make some lifestyle changes. And if I don't, then, you know, I, you have to deal with those consequences.

   17. JRJoe Rogan46:02

       But you have a lot of people in this country that are living in denial about health in regards to being o- obese.

   18. GCGina Carano46:07

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan46:07

       Like, there's a lot of people that think there's absolutely nothing wrong with it and that it's healthy-

   20. GCGina Carano46:11

       Yeah.

   21. JRJoe Rogan46:12

       ... and that, that, that, that it's a lie and that dieting is unhealthy. Like, there's a lot of crazy talk today.

   22. GCGina Carano46:16

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan46:16

       And, and if you get in the wrong echo chamber online, you can be a victim of that kind of crazy talk-

   24. GCGina Carano46:22

       Well-

   25. JRJoe Rogan46:22

       ... 'cause you start believing it.

   26. GCGina Carano46:23

       ... I feel like what people are, what they're saying is like, um ... See, what I'm saying is you can be beautiful. I believe beauty comes from (laughs) ... I feel like this is weird, and I feel beauty r- very much comes from-

   27. JRJoe Rogan46:35

       Comes from within?

   28. GCGina Carano46:36

       Yes-

   29. JRJoe Rogan46:37

       Yeah?

   30. GCGina Carano46:37

       ... Joe.
5. 1:00:00 – 1:07:07

   The problem is the…

   1. GCGina Carano1:00:00

      like, these peo- like, why couldn't we have equal passion?

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:00:02

      The problem is the way Trump behaves makes it ...... um, the people who oppose him feel like they're very justified in their anger, because he fights people. Like, if you, if you say something that he opposes, he goes after you. He gets angry.

   3. GCGina Carano1:00:20

      And I understand that-

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:00:20

      He insults people. He mocks people.

   5. GCGina Carano1:00:22

      I understand both.

   6. JRJoe Rogan1:00:23

      He divides people in that way.

   7. GCGina Carano1:00:24

      I understand both of that, right?

   8. JRJoe Rogan1:00:25

      Yeah.

   9. GCGina Carano1:00:25

      Like, I understand very much so, like, people would prefer a more, um, professional voice. Um, but these are the only options we had in 2020.

   10. JRJoe Rogan1:00:34

       Right. Right.

   11. GCGina Carano1:00:34

       And that's, you know-

   12. JRJoe Rogan1:00:35

       That's, that's pragmatic.

   13. GCGina Carano1:00:36

       Yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan1:00:36

       That's a good way to look at it.

   15. GCGina Carano1:00:37

       So I was like... You know, one of my co-stars contacted me and he's like, you know, he's like, "You're not voting for Trump, though." And I was like, "Well yeah, I am going to." And he was like, "Gina." And I'm like, "What has Joe Biden said in his past that Trump hasn't said?" I mean, if you look through all of Joe Biden's history... And I was like... And to be honest, that three years of very positive economy that he was in charge, um, I would be a bit pissed off if I was him too. They didn't give him a fair shake in the news to, like, save his life. I mean, like they were... The CNN hoax and the Russian hoax and all of that just on top of him, and, um, you know, they're just as guilty as Trump was, uh, uh, as dividing the media is... You know, and now they're kind of breaking down and going to people like you and going, um, elsewhere. And the, the media's now suffering, which as they should, 'cause they're just as guilty as... But-

   16. JRJoe Rogan1:01:27

       Well, they have a problem in that they have an outrage economy.

   17. GCGina Carano1:01:30

       Yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan1:01:31

       That's a big part of what they sell, is trying to get people outraged about something, so they find things to exaggerate-

   19. GCGina Carano1:01:37

       Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan1:01:37

       ... and become outraged at.

   21. GCGina Carano1:01:38

       And we're gonna get pretty sick and tired of that, um, the worse things get. They're gonna have to start, you know, reporting on real news. (laughs)

   22. JRJoe Rogan1:01:46

       Well, I think that's what CNN's strategy is now.

   23. GCGina Carano1:01:48

       Yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan1:01:48

       CNN was purchased and the-

   25. GCGina Carano1:01:50

       Oh, they got a different owner now?

   26. JRJoe Rogan1:01:52

       Yes. And the, one of the big things this guy's saying is that he wants to bring back the objective n- news journalism in p- instead of, like, editorializing things, instead of commentary, instead of opinion, instead of all this bullshit that you get from these Brian Stelter and Don Lemon type characters.

   27. GCGina Carano1:02:11

       Oh, my word.

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:02:12

       That, that's the reason why people don't want to listen to CNN.

   29. GCGina Carano1:02:14

       Yeah.

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:02:15

       You know? Like if CNN just stuck with, like, subjects that are important to the world and to the American people and, "These are, here's the problem with the shipping crisis. This is what's going on."

Episode duration: 2:49:25