Joe Rogan Experience #1838 - Brian Simpson

1. 0:01 – 2:22

   Android loyalty vs Apple’s “walled garden” ecosystem

   1. NANarrator0:01

      (drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

   2. NANarrator0:04

      The Joe Rogan Experience.

   3. JRJoe Rogan0:06

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music) Uh, well, I appreciate that you're committed to this fucking Android thing.

   4. BSBrian Simpson0:16

      (laughs)

   5. JRJoe Rogan0:18

      I have a lot of friends that, uh, that they send me the green text and every now and then one will show up blue. They give up and they jump on the iPhone train. I'm like, "Interesting."

   6. BSBrian Simpson0:26

      I can't do it, man.

   7. JRJoe Rogan0:27

      No? Why?

   8. BSBrian Simpson0:28

      I-

   9. JRJoe Rogan0:28

      What is it about it?

   10. BSBrian Simpson0:29

       I (clears throat) because I, it's one of those things where I'm so into my tech and shit.

   11. JRJoe Rogan0:35

       Yeah.

   12. BSBrian Simpson0:35

       And if you, if I go iPhone, then I gotta go Apple everything.

   13. JRJoe Rogan0:39

       Why?

   14. BSBrian Simpson0:40

       Because they're, because that's the, that's the whole advantage of going Apple is that it, it all just works together so well because they're on their own little ecosystem, you know?

   15. JRJoe Rogan0:49

       What's the advantage of not going Apple?

   16. BSBrian Simpson0:51

       Uh, customization.

   17. JRJoe Rogan0:53

       Oh, okay. But you, you're not... Are you using the phone with other stuff? Does it integrate with other stuff?

   18. BSBrian Simpson1:00

       Yeah.

   19. JRJoe Rogan1:00

       The way an iPhone does?

   20. BSBrian Simpson1:01

       Because I have, I have a Samsung phone, Samsung tablet, Samsung Watch.

   21. JRJoe Rogan1:04

       Oh.

   22. BSBrian Simpson1:05

       You know, and if I go iPhone then I gotta get an Apple Watch, I gotta get-

   23. JRJoe Rogan1:09

       Oh.

   24. BSBrian Simpson1:09

       ... a, uh, iPad, you know?

   25. JRJoe Rogan1:10

       What's better?

   26. BSBrian Simpson1:11

       (sighs) Um...

   27. JRJoe Rogan1:13

       Have you fucked with Apple stuff?

   28. BSBrian Simpson1:14

       Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan1:15

       Yeah?

   30. BSBrian Simpson1:15

       I used to... I've had iPhones.
2. 2:22 – 5:34

   iMessage psychology: green/blue bubbles, blurry videos, and social pressure

   1. BSBrian Simpson2:22

      Everything's beautiful in the garden, but you try to do some shit outside, like hit, like 'cause, and Apple does all these little, they do all these little shitty tactics to facilitate that, right? So, so the whole green bubble-

   2. JRJoe Rogan2:34

      Mm-hmm.

   3. BSBrian Simpson2:34

      ... blue bubble thing, that originally came out, like you remember back when you had to pay for texts?

   4. JRJoe Rogan2:39

      No.

   5. BSBrian Simpson2:40

      Yeah. They used to charge for text messages.

   6. JRJoe Rogan2:42

      How much did they charge?

   7. BSBrian Simpson2:43

      I, I don't know, it was like, you know, five cent a message or they would give you a bundle or some would come with your plan and (clears throat) and Apple created iMessage and the, and green was supposed to represent a text that you paid for and blue was supposed to be one that was free because it was in the Apple network. And then right after they invented it, it, that kind of went away. There was no... all text messages are free. But they noticed that there was a little bit of, that there was this little snobbery there that, like... So they purposely, they could fix it, they could easily integrate iMessages so that it doesn't come up different, but they won't because it, it, it increases that fear of missing out that makes people want to go, "Ah, fuck, I'm just gonna get an iPhone. I'm tired of being left out of the group chats."

   8. JRJoe Rogan3:32

      Yeah.

   9. BSBrian Simpson3:33

      Per- perfect example, if you send me a video, it'll come up blurry.

   10. JRJoe Rogan3:37

       Yeah.

   11. BSBrian Simpson3:38

       Right? And that's, that's an Apple thing.

   12. JRJoe Rogan3:40

       It is?

   13. BSBrian Simpson3:41

       Yes.

   14. JRJoe Rogan3:41

       But if you send a Samsung guy video, will it come out perfect?

   15. BSBrian Simpson3:44

       R- Oh, yeah. If I s- and if I send you a video, it'll come out perfect. But if you send me one, it'll come up blurry.

   16. JRJoe Rogan3:51

       Really?

   17. BSBrian Simpson3:51

       Yeah, because they want me to feel left out. And it, or here's a part, here's another example. You know how when you text somebody, you, you, uh, they can react to it, so it'll be like a smiley face or whatever?

   18. JRJoe Rogan4:00

       Right.

   19. BSBrian Simpson4:00

       Right? So up until recently, if, if I sent you a text and you, and you hearted it-

   20. JRJoe Rogan4:06

       Right.

   21. BSBrian Simpson4:07

       ... it would, it would say to me, "Joe hearted," and then it would give me my whole text in quotes.

   22. JRJoe Rogan4:14

       Oh.

   23. BSBrian Simpson4:15

       And-

   24. JRJoe Rogan4:16

       What does it do now?

   25. BSBrian Simpson4:17

       Well, now Android's work, has done like a little workaround, so if that, if you get a text like that, it'll just put a heart underneath it.

   26. JRJoe Rogan4:23

       Okay, so I'm gonna send you one right now.

   27. BSBrian Simpson4:25

       Yes.

   28. JRJoe Rogan4:25

       And you'll get a little heart. All right, here we go.

   29. BSBrian Simpson4:27

       Oh, my, my shit's off.

   30. JRJoe Rogan4:28

       Oh, okay, I forget it...
3. 5:34 – 7:44

   Old-school mobile phone economics: minutes, roaming, and the shift to data

   1. JRJoe Rogan5:34

      Do you remember when, um, roaming would cost you a fucking shitload of money?

   2. BSBrian Simpson5:38

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan5:39

      Like if you used your phone in Connecticut, you'd be doomed.

   4. BSBrian Simpson5:41

      I remember when you had minutes.

   5. JRJoe Rogan5:43

      Yes.

   6. BSBrian Simpson5:43

      You had talk minutes.

   7. JRJoe Rogan5:44

      Yes.

   8. BSBrian Simpson5:45

      And it's like, a l- a lot of these kids don't get it, man. It's like th-

   9. JRJoe Rogan5:47

      That's pretty recent.

   10. BSBrian Simpson5:49

       Yeah, it's not that long... I mean, may- no more than 15 years ago.

   11. JRJoe Rogan5:53

       Was it that long ago? Minutes?

   12. NANarrator5:54

       Yeah. Well, yeah, night and weekend minutes, you know, 7:00 PM. Oh, we're... your hours are at 9:00, ours are at 7:00.

   13. JRJoe Rogan6:00

       Oh.

   14. BSBrian Simpson6:00

       Well, I remember when I had, because I used to have Cingular, which is, I think they're part of T-Mobile now, but they, Cingular used to be like, if, if, if I called another Cingular customer, it didn't use my minutes, or if you called somebody during certain hours, it didn't use your minutes.

   15. JRJoe Rogan6:14

       Hmm.

   16. BSBrian Simpson6:15

       You know, it was like peak hours and off hours.

   17. JRJoe Rogan6:17

       Yeah, I remember that. Cingular, I remember too.

   18. BSBrian Simpson6:20

       Yeah. And, and what's funny is, it's the same fucking network. First they told us, "Oh, well, we have to charge for minutes, otherwise we would, we would swamp the network." And now minutes are free, and then they started charging for texts. Like, "It'll, it'll, it'll flood the network. We gotta charge for texts." And now text is free and they charging for data. And data, data they actually need. I don't know if they need to charge what they charge.

   19. JRJoe Rogan6:39

       You know, whenever shit goes down and everybody tries to use their phone, you can't use your phone.

   20. BSBrian Simpson6:42

       Ever.

   21. JRJoe Rogan6:43

       That's what's weird. Like, try using your phone at a sporting event.

   22. BSBrian Simpson6:46

       Yeah.

   23. JRJoe Rogan6:46

       Like, if you're at a, like a Super Bowl or something like that? Pff.

   24. BSBrian Simpson6:49

       Yeah, it's impossible.

   25. JRJoe Rogan6:50

       E- everybody's using their phone.

   26. BSBrian Simpson6:51

       Or try calling somebody somewhere where just something happened, an earthquake or something.

   27. JRJoe Rogan6:55

       Right.

   28. BSBrian Simpson6:55

       Yeah, it's a wrap.

   29. JRJoe Rogan6:56

       It won't work.

   30. BSBrian Simpson6:57

       No.
4. 7:44 – 8:38

   US telecom fragmentation and consolidation (GSM/CDMA) + “Disney will own everything”

   1. BSBrian Simpson7:44

      It's wild because there's different technologies on different networks.

   2. JRJoe Rogan7:50

      Right, there's 4G and there's 5G.

   3. BSBrian Simpson7:52

      No, no, no. I mean like CDMA versus, I forget what the other one is, but like Verizon use-

   4. JRJoe Rogan7:56

      GSM, right?

   5. BSBrian Simpson7:57

      Yeah, GSM, right. And so, they, so ... And I, and I wanna say, I think we're the only country, the only Western country that, where it's split that way. Like, you know, like if you go to Korea, it's all one technology.

   6. JRJoe Rogan8:09

      I think they all use GSM.

   7. BSBrian Simpson8:11

      Yeah.

   8. JRJoe Rogan8:12

      I think, um, what ... Correct me if I'm wrong about this too. I think CDMA, it works better deep inside of buildings.

   9. BSBrian Simpson8:19

      I'm not sure. I'm not sure.

   10. JRJoe Rogan8:21

       I think that was the, the positive aspect. And that's only in this country, Verizon and Sprint, right?

   11. BSBrian Simpson8:26

       Well, we, uh, we ... Yeah, well, uh, well, Sprint just got bought by, just merged with T-Mobile.

   12. JRJoe Rogan8:30

       Oh.

   13. BSBrian Simpson8:30

       Yeah, so it's getting small in there. And at the end of the day, Disney's gonna own everything.

   14. JRJoe Rogan8:35

       Disney's gonna own everything.

   15. BSBrian Simpson8:36

       They gonna own every fucking thing, man.

   16. JRJoe Rogan8:38

       Damn.

5. 8:38 – 10:14

   NFL Sunday Ticket, exclusivity deals, and anti-fan monetization

   1. JRJoe Rogan8:38

      Did you hear about the ... (clears throat) I saw something, uh, DirecTV is, might be losing the Sunday ticket for the NFL, which has been like the biggest thing-

   2. BSBrian Simpson8:46

      Good.

   3. JRJoe Rogan8:46

      ... holding it together for like 30 years maybe, since 1990 or something they've had a deal.

   4. BSBrian Simpson8:50

      Good. Fuck 'em.

   5. JRJoe Rogan8:51

      They're gonna make $1.5 billion a year.

   6. Why are they, uh, gonna lose it?

   7. The, the rights end after this season or next season, and the NFL's asking for $3 billion a year.

   8. BSBrian Simpson9:00

      Yep, and you know who got it? Disney.

   9. JRJoe Rogan9:02

      There's only like three companies that can afford it.

   10. BSBrian Simpson9:04

       Disney, Netflix, I hope YouTube, I hope Google buys it and puts it on YouTube, 'cause I miss ... 'Cause, 'cause DirecTV is fucking trash. And the only reason anybody has it is because of the Sunday ticket.

   11. JRJoe Rogan9:17

       Really?

   12. BSBrian Simpson9:17

       Nobody owns ... Or people that like live in rural areas and they can only get satellite, you know, but, but for the, but the vast majority of their customers, they're being forced to deal with DirecTV so they can have Sunday ticket.

   13. JRJoe Rogan9:29

       Hmm.

   14. BSBrian Simpson9:29

       'Cause the, the NFL started doing, started doing this like anti-fan bullshit a long time ago when they made, um, they, they put out an exclusive bid for their video game. So remember, it wasn't too long ago where there was, there was Madden, there was GameDay, there was 2K, there was ... You know, anybody could license and, and make a, a NFL game, and then one year NFL was like, "Only one person gets it. This is how much it costs." You know, and EA bought it and just started making a shitty game every ... Well now, it wasn't shitty every year, but they don't have any competition.

   15. JRJoe Rogan10:01

       Mm.

   16. BSBrian Simpson10:02

       And then they did the same thing with the Sunday ticket. They were like, "We'll give exclusivity if you'll give us a billion dollars every year." You know, so DirecTV paid, pays the billion dollars every year and then charges their customers like $600.

6. 10:14 – 11:44

   SiriusXM as a ‘sneaky famous’ platform and early “podcast-like” radio

   1. JRJoe Rogan10:14

      There's certain things that like anchor a network, right? Like Howard Stern anchors Sirius.

   2. BSBrian Simpson10:19

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan10:19

      Like, if Howard Stern left Sirius, they'd be fucked.

   4. BSBrian Simpson10:22

      Yeah, pretty much.

   5. JRJoe Rogan10:22

      'Cause how many people even have that now?

   6. BSBrian Simpson10:25

      You know what? It's more people than you think.

   7. JRJoe Rogan10:27

      Hmm.

   8. BSBrian Simpson10:27

      It's more people than I would think. S- S- Sirius is sneaky famous like Garth Brooks.

   9. JRJoe Rogan10:31

      (laughs)

   10. BSBrian Simpson10:32

       You know?

   11. JRJoe Rogan10:33

       (clapping) That's perfect.

   12. BSBrian Simpson10:36

       'Cause you know what they do? They bundle it, they bundle it with car purchases.

   13. JRJoe Rogan10:39

       Right.

   14. BSBrian Simpson10:40

       And so then you get used to hearing something and you go, "Well, fuck it." You know, "What is it, 10 bucks a month? I'll pay."

   15. JRJoe Rogan10:45

       Right.

   16. BSBrian Simpson10:45

       Yeah.

   17. JRJoe Rogan10:46

       Right. Yeah, if they can get you addicted, that's a good move. That's a great sneaky deal to have, uh, it integrated with cars.

   18. BSBrian Simpson10:54

       Yeah. And I still-

   19. JRJoe Rogan10:55

       That's very smart.

   20. BSBrian Simpson10:56

       And I still get a ch- I, I get checks from Sirius too sometimes.

   21. JRJoe Rogan10:58

       Oh yeah, for like royalties?

   22. BSBrian Simpson11:00

       Yeah, like, um-

   23. JRJoe Rogan11:01

       Bits?

   24. BSBrian Simpson11:01

       Yeah, bits. Yeah.

   25. JRJoe Rogan11:02

       Yeah.

   26. BSBrian Simpson11:02

       So they, they, so they, they paying it out.

   27. JRJoe Rogan11:05

       Well, they were the first people to do podcasts, really.

   28. BSBrian Simpson11:08

       Yeah.

   29. JRJoe Rogan11:08

       Like the real first podcasts were Opie and Anthony and Howard Stern, 'cause they were ... You know, obviously it came off of the radio, but they were the first people to do Radio Uncensored.

   30. BSBrian Simpson11:19

       Oh, yeah.
7. 11:44 – 13:20

   Ham radio, preparedness culture, and disaster fantasies

   1. BSBrian Simpson11:44

      Yeah. The regular radio, I don't even know how that's still a thing.

   2. JRJoe Rogan11:49

      Some people like it, man. You'd be amazed. You know who likes it? The kind of people who can food.

   3. BSBrian Simpson11:57

      (laughs) Who like do it themselves?

   4. JRJoe Rogan11:59

      Yeah, the kind of people who like fucking ... They've got like freeze-dried food buried in their garage.

   5. BSBrian Simpson12:04

      Yeah, yeah.

   6. JRJoe Rogan12:04

      You know what I mean?

   7. BSBrian Simpson12:05

      Yeah, they got a bunk- they had like a, a bunker for the end of the world.

   8. JRJoe Rogan12:07

      Yeah, those are the type of people that have ham radios and they're, they're-

   9. BSBrian Simpson12:10

      Oh, yeah. (laughs)

   10. JRJoe Rogan12:10

       ... listening in over ... (laughs)

   11. BSBrian Simpson12:14

       My boy Scotty's father is a ham radio guy.

   12. JRJoe Rogan12:17

       Well, that used to be the shit. You could talk to someone with ... If the, the weather was right, you could talk to someone in Alaska.

   13. BSBrian Simpson12:22

       Oh, yeah.

   14. JRJoe Rogan12:23

       You could talk to someone on the other side of the world.

   15. BSBrian Simpson12:24

       Well, what's scary is ... 'Cause he's one of those people where like he's re- ... He ... Like, how do I explain it? He, he was really, really smart.... in the 70s, like he had the world mastered.

   16. JRJoe Rogan12:35

       Mm-hmm.

   17. BSBrian Simpson12:36

       You know what I'm saying?

   18. JRJoe Rogan12:36

       Right.

   19. BSBrian Simpson12:37

       And now, he, he's sort of, like, not with the new technology, but that motherfucker can use a ham radio. He- he- he makes his own rifles, you know, so it's a, it's a, it's like if sh- if things went to shit, he would be the only person that I knew that I could be like...

   20. JRJoe Rogan12:51

       He would be the guy in the movie.

   21. BSBrian Simpson12:52

       Yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan12:52

       Like, you'd be on a hill, and you'd hear a distant, "Shh."

   23. BSBrian Simpson12:55

       (laughs) Yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan12:56

       "Here we are here. If you're hearing this, there is a state of emergency. Seek high ground. Do not make noises at night."

   25. BSBrian Simpson13:03

       Or like a bear, or like right when a bear is about to eat your ass, it- it just gets blown away, and you're like-

   26. JRJoe Rogan13:08

       Yeah.

   27. BSBrian Simpson13:08

       ... "What the fuck?" And it's, like, some old man on a hill. Yeah.

   28. JRJoe Rogan13:10

       Yes, yes. Yeah, that's- that's how it is in those movies. He would be that guy. He'd be that guy with his own generator.

   29. BSBrian Simpson13:18

       (sniffs)

   30. JRJoe Rogan13:18

       Those are the people that are gonna live.
8. 13:20 – 17:13

   Yellowstone supervolcano and why society ignores existential risks

   1. JRJoe Rogan13:20

      I had this conversation last night with, uh, Eryk Anders. Eryk Anders was the guest on the podcast yesterday. He's a fighter in the UFC's, uh, middleweight division, really fucking cool guy. Used to be a football player. And we were talking about, um, last night, we were all talking about, like, super volcanoes, started freaking out.

   2. BSBrian Simpson13:36

      Yeah.

   3. JRJoe Rogan13:37

      Like- like, he was talking about how he took his kid to Yellowstone, and he's standing there, and he's like, "Um, we should probably get the fuck out of here." Like- (laughs)

   4. BSBrian Simpson13:43

      Yeah.

   5. JRJoe Rogan13:43

      "This is a volcano."

   6. BSBrian Simpson13:45

      'Cause it's like it's- it's-

   7. JRJoe Rogan13:46

      Yeah.

   8. BSBrian Simpson13:46

      ... but it's like that whole part-

   9. JRJoe Rogan13:48

      Yeah.

   10. BSBrian Simpson13:48

       ... of the United States. It's not e- it's not just that park. It's like, it's like spans states.

   11. JRJoe Rogan13:53

       It's so big.

   12. BSBrian Simpson13:54

       Yeah.

   13. JRJoe Rogan13:54

       It's not, I don't think it spans states, but I think the caldera-

   14. BSBrian Simpson13:58

       No?

   15. JRJoe Rogan13:58

       I think it's 300 kilometers wide, if that's, if that's correct. It might be 600 kilometers wide. It's either 300 miles or 300 kilo- or something like that, but it's that. It's at least 300 kilometers wide.

   16. BSBrian Simpson14:09

       If it goes off, we're fucked.

   17. JRJoe Rogan14:10

       If it goes off, we're fucked, and it- it probably means the whole human race is fucked. It's not, it's not as simple as, like, we're fucked. Like, we're gonna get down to, like, a few nomadic tribes in, like, the Amazon. (laughs) Like, this is gonna kill almost everybody. This thing's so big.

   18. BSBrian Simpson14:29

       Yeah, that's- that's insane, man. Yeah, see, it crosses Montana and Idaho and Wyoming.

   19. JRJoe Rogan14:33

       So that's the whole seismic region, right?

   20. BSBrian Simpson14:35

       Oh, okay.

   21. JRJoe Rogan14:35

       So where is the, um, what's the- the width of the caldera? 'Cause that was the thing that I was confused about, 'cause I thought they said it was, like, 300. Unless 300 kilometers, like, goes through some of those states, but that doesn't make any sense. I guess it does if it's on the edges, right? But what they're saying is, is that it's 30 by 45 miles wide.

   22. BSBrian Simpson14:57

       Holy shit, man.

   23. JRJoe Rogan14:59

       That's not as big as I thought.

   24. BSBrian Simpson15:01

       That's still-

   25. JRJoe Rogan15:02

       I thought it was, like, 300 kilometers.

   26. BSBrian Simpson15:06

       The third and most recent mass de-

   27. JRJoe Rogan15:07

       Maybe that's, like, what all, whatever the volcanic activity is under the surface, but whatever it is, it's a super volcano that every 6 to 800,000 years blows. And when it blows, it kills everything.

   28. BSBrian Simpson15:19

       Right, and we're overdue.

   29. JRJoe Rogan15:20

       Yeah, we're in that range. We're 600,000 years ago-

   30. BSBrian Simpson15:24

       Yeah.
9. 17:13 – 20:45

   US politics and purity tests: abortion, cancel culture, and the “we don’t have a Trump” argument

   1. BSBrian Simpson17:13

      Yeah, because that's- that's the thing is, like, I'm a, I guess I- I would consider myself a liberal, but I hate, I hate liberal politicians 'cause they're pussies.

   2. JRJoe Rogan17:22

      Oh.

   3. BSBrian Simpson17:23

      They... You- you know what kills me is, like, so take- take this abortion thing that just happened. It's like, you know why, you know why, you know why we lost? 'Cause we're pussies because we don't have a Trump. We, like, 'cause cancel culture only works on our side. Republicans ain't canceling no motherfu- They don't give a fuck what, like-

   4. JRJoe Rogan17:41

      They don't cancel each other, that's for sure.

   5. BSBrian Simpson17:43

      Yeah, remember, so this whole politi- through this whole everything that, uh, Biden was trying to do politically is being held up by one senator, right? Joe Manchin or whatever. And you know, you know, you know when we lost one senator? We canceled Al Franken, the comedian.

   6. JRJoe Rogan17:58

      Yeah.

   7. BSBrian Simpson17:59

      We canceled him 'cause his hand was hovering over a titty.

   8. JRJoe Rogan18:02

      Yeah.

   9. BSBrian Simpson18:02

      And then they had Trump go and grab him by the pussy. That motherfucker's president.

   10. JRJoe Rogan18:06

       (laughs)

   11. BSBrian Simpson18:06

       You know what I'm saying? Because all- all Republicans care about is are you gonna vote the right way.

   12. JRJoe Rogan18:12

       Right.

   13. BSBrian Simpson18:12

       They wanna win.

   14. JRJoe Rogan18:13

       Right.

   15. BSBrian Simpson18:13

       We wanna, we wanna feel good. We wanna feel good about who's representing us instead of winning. I- I need, I, like, I want a evil motherfucker up in there now. I want somebody that's like, like, you- you- you, you know, because you come to Congress with good intentions, and they go, "Okay, but listen, if you wanna do all that and change the world, you gotta fucking drown this puppy." And some people are like, "I can't do that." And they're like, "Well, then you're never gonna be more than a representative."

   16. JRJoe Rogan18:36

       Mm-hmm.

   17. BSBrian Simpson18:36

       You wanna be a senator? You gotta get some blood on your hands.

   18. JRJoe Rogan18:39

       Yeah.

   19. BSBrian Simpson18:40

       Yeah. Eyes watching. I need -- we need somebody that's ruthless, man.

   20. JRJoe Rogan18:44

       (laughs)

   21. BSBrian Simpson18:44

       We need a ruthless-

   22. JRJoe Rogan18:45

       But that's not a Democrat. The thing is like-

   23. BSBrian Simpson18:47

       No, they're toothless.

   24. JRJoe Rogan18:47

       ... too many, too many people on that side would never vote for that.

   25. BSBrian Simpson18:50

       A lot of Liberals become, become Conservatives because they're tired of losing.

   26. JRJoe Rogan18:54

       I think a lot of Liberals become Conservatives because they realize the worst end of Liberalism. They see the, the hard, far left end of it, the Antifa people and the, the, the people that wanna... They think that somehow or another, they're blocking the highway is gonna bring back Roe versus Wade.

   27. BSBrian Simpson19:10

       (laughs)

   28. JRJoe Rogan19:10

       Like this is... These are, these are those kind of people that you don't want to be associated with. Like the-

   29. BSBrian Simpson19:14

       Look-

   30. JRJoe Rogan19:14

       There's like people that think that... Like, e- y- yelling and screaming about things, it's not just about the thing, it's also about you wanna yell and scream.
10. 20:45 – 26:14

    Qatar World Cup restrictions, Russia detentions, and Brittney Griner as a political pawn

    1. BSBrian Simpson20:45

       You know what I'm saying? And so that's what's coming back. It ain't... It... Because people going... You can't... I, I just read... I just talked about this on my podcast. They, they, uh... So the, the, the World Cup is in, uh, in, uh, Qatar.

    2. JRJoe Rogan20:59

       Yeah.

    3. BSBrian Simpson21:00

       And, uh, and there's no fucking.

    4. JRJoe Rogan21:03

       What?

    5. BSBrian Simpson21:03

       They banned fucking. So, so-

    6. JRJoe Rogan21:05

       (laughs) Come on.

    7. BSBrian Simpson21:06

       Yeah. And I'm not kidding.

    8. JRJoe Rogan21:06

       Come on.

    9. BSBrian Simpson21:07

       If you're n- Unless you came with your sp- Unless your spouse is another Olympic athlete, you're not allowed to fuck in Qatar for the World... I mean, the World Cup.

    10. JRJoe Rogan21:14

        Oh, so they can't hook up?

    11. BSBrian Simpson21:16

        No fucking. No fucking anybody that's not your spouse.

    12. JRJoe Rogan21:19

        What?

    13. BSBrian Simpson21:20

        Yeah. And they, and they... And it's, it's... And it, it w- it's not like a, like a passive thing. They, they really reiterating like-

    14. JRJoe Rogan21:27

        (laughs)

    15. BSBrian Simpson21:27

        Yeah, look.

    16. JRJoe Rogan21:27

        Uh, is that how you say it? Qatar? Is that how you say it?

    17. BSBrian Simpson21:30

        Uh, some people say Qatar, some people say Qatar.

    18. JRJoe Rogan21:32

        Uh, I don't know how to say it, I only read it. Uh, enact sex b- Or if I said it, I forgot. Sex bans for unmarried fans ahead of World Cup. Qatari officials have repeat... That sounds like a fucking Star Wars thing.

    19. BSBrian Simpson21:43

        It sounds made up.

    20. JRJoe Rogan21:44

        Qatari officials.

    21. BSBrian Simpson21:45

        And, and I only bring it up because I'm like, I... You can't... You can't fight human nature. You can't stop people from fucking.

    22. JRJoe Rogan21:53

        It's wild. Foreigners attending the tournament will have to comply with the Qatari laws such as the criminalization of public intoxication. A person could also face the death penalty if caught smuggling cocaine into the country. Holy shit.

    23. BSBrian Simpson22:07

        Wow.

    24. JRJoe Rogan22:07

        Holy shit. According to British news outlet Daily Star, FIFA officials warn that no exceptions will be made, emphasizing that one-night stands could lead to seven years' imprisonment. Holy shit.

    25. BSBrian Simpson22:23

        Damn. That's some good pussy.

    26. JRJoe Rogan22:25

        You can't... What if you're publicly drunk and you have sex?

    27. BSBrian Simpson22:28

        (laughs)

    28. JRJoe Rogan22:28

        Right?

    29. BSBrian Simpson22:29

        Which is usually how they go to one... One... Hand in hand.

    30. JRJoe Rogan22:31

        Yeah, they're... They're usually a one-two combination.
11. 26:14 – 43:10

    Putin-era dictatorship and long-game propaganda: Yuri Bezmenov clip and modern social media warfare

    1. JRJoe Rogan26:14

       It's weird. But what I was just gonna say, there's, like, levels of dictatorships. And what we're l- seeing in Russia, which is really interesting, it's like a, a, an emerged level of dictatorship that we didn't think existed after the Cold War. We thought Russia had gone into some sort of vague semi-democracy, right?

    2. BSBrian Simpson26:32

       Yeah, yeah.

    3. JRJoe Rogan26:33

       But then when Putin really just grabbed the bull by the balls and decided to be president again and you realize like, "Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no." This is a propaganda-driven dictatorship just like North Korea, just like a little looser, though. Like, you can have guys like chess masters who talk shit about the government and they don't kill them.

    4. BSBrian Simpson26:52

       Yeah.

    5. JRJoe Rogan26:52

       You know, like they haven't killed Garry Kasparov.

    6. BSBrian Simpson26:54

       'Cause one of the most dangerous people is a motherfucker that is, is, is one of the top soldiers that lost the last war, like for real.

    7. JRJoe Rogan27:01

       Yes.

    8. BSBrian Simpson27:01

       They always come back and back, 'cause he was one of the top soldiers in the Cold War when we whooped that ass.

    9. JRJoe Rogan27:06

       Yes.

    10. BSBrian Simpson27:07

        And we never thought he'd be running the... Like, you know, uh, you ever heard of Hannibal, the general Hannibal?

    11. JRJoe Rogan27:11

        Yes.

    12. BSBrian Simpson27:12

        He, he was whoop- he was beating the shit out of Rome. Like, whooping their ass up, left and right. And one of the, one of the biggest battles ever, the Battle of Cannae, is when he, he crushed... He, he wiped out a large percentage of the male Roman population in one day with a smaller army, just by out- outsmarting them. But one of the motherfuckers escaped, s- uh, uh, Scipio. And they c- they call him now Scipio Africanus, because he, he, he studied all his tactics, he bided his time and he came back and beat and was whooping Cannibal's ass. I mean, Hannibal's ass. That's... I mean, he didn't, he didn't, he didn't end up killing him. He killed him, killing himself later on. But he figured out the blueprint.

    13. JRJoe Rogan27:54

        Mm-hmm.

    14. BSBrian Simpson27:54

        He came back and beat him with his own tactics, because he... And, but he was the one, he was one of the, like, handful of motherfuckers that slipped away from Cannae when Hannibal was beating the shit out of Rome.

    15. JRJoe Rogan28:04

        So he saw it how they did it and knew their tactics.

    16. BSBrian Simpson28:07

        Yeah.

    17. JRJoe Rogan28:07

        And then devised a strategy.

    18. BSBrian Simpson28:08

        Yeah. 'Cause one, one of the big advantages Hannibal had was his, was his, uh, was his, uh, Nubian cavalry. And when Scipio came back to fight him, he, he paid them off, so now they were on his side.

    19. JRJoe Rogan28:18

        Oh. Well, one of the things about Russia and the Soviet Union and the, the whole thing is that they have always had a long-term propaganda strategy for the United States. And it was outlined, it was outlined in this conversation from, like, 1984 by this guy, Yuri... How do I say his name? Is it Bezmenov? Do you remember that guy? He was a, uh, a, a guy who used to work for the Soviet Union. See if you can find it. Um-

    20. BSBrian Simpson28:45

        Yuri Bezmenov.

    21. JRJoe Rogan28:45

        (sighs) I'm trying to remember his name. I think I'm fucking that up. But it w-... He, he basically was outline, uh, outlining rather their strategy for getting us to, uh, to, to no longer trust our democracy... You find it? His name?

    22. NANarrator29:02

        Bez- Bez- Bezmenov.

    23. JRJoe Rogan29:03

        Bezmenov. I knew I fucked it up. Um, but this guy outlined... See, let's play it, 'cause it's kinda crazy. I know we've played this before, but it's re- it's really interesting.

    24. NANarrator29:11

        It's an hour and a half long. I don't know-

    25. JRJoe Rogan29:13

        Oh.

    26. NANarrator29:13

        ... what the exact part it would be. This is the full interview. Oh, see, get a highlight how... A warning to Americans for two minutes.

    27. JRJoe Rogan29:19

        Yeah, that's it. That's it. Thank you. That's it. That's perfect.

    28. BSBrian Simpson29:21

        Damn, he defected?

    29. JRJoe Rogan29:22

        Yeah.

    30. BSBrian Simpson29:22

        Uh, they killed his ass, right?
12. 43:10 – 51:55

    Memes as cultural language—and ‘Bullshit Jobs’ in the modern workplace

    1. JRJoe Rogan43:10

       They do it on purpose. They're all tr- trying to initiate conflict. And s- she was saying, it was really funny because like, like I'm a big fan of memes. I think memes are f- they're one of the more interesting forms of comedy-

    2. BSBrian Simpson43:21

       Yeah.

    3. JRJoe Rogan43:21

       ... that exists. Uh, like they, like you hear someone, like, like every day my friends are sending me memes. We're going ba-... I, I've, I've become like sick with it lately.

    4. BSBrian Simpson43:29

       It's, it's the evolution of the street joke.

    5. JRJoe Rogan43:31

       It's, it's, it is like that because like, man, who's writing these? 'Cause they're, some of them, with the picture, they're so funny. Look at this one. This is like, this only could exist in this form with a picture similar to this, with this caption.

    6. BSBrian Simpson43:52

       (laughs) would you-

    7. JRJoe Rogan43:53

       "When you nut fast and she cussing you out so you sit here like-"

    8. BSBrian Simpson43:57

       (laughs)

    9. JRJoe Rogan43:57

       I mean, (laughs) how funny is that? It's so funny.

    10. BSBrian Simpson44:02

        (laughs)

    11. JRJoe Rogan44:03

        I mean, t- through this pandemic I've been obsessed with memes. I've been getting... So many people send me funny memes, so many of these like text-

    12. BSBrian Simpson44:10

        Oh.

    13. JRJoe Rogan44:10

        ... message chains of funny memes.

    14. BSBrian Simpson44:12

        Yeah, they're good. They're good.

    15. JRJoe Rogan44:13

        There's so many good pages.

    16. BSBrian Simpson44:16

        Yeah.

    17. JRJoe Rogan44:16

        Some of them are restricted. Some of them are hard to find.

    18. BSBrian Simpson44:19

        The pages?

    19. JRJoe Rogan44:19

        Yeah, they're-

    20. BSBrian Simpson44:20

        Yeah.

    21. JRJoe Rogan44:20

        So, they're hard to find.

    22. BSBrian Simpson44:21

        Some of them are thieves.

    23. JRJoe Rogan44:22

        Oh, well almost all of them are thieves.

    24. BSBrian Simpson44:24

        Yeah.

    25. JRJoe Rogan44:25

        That's the thing. It's like, who is the guy? It's like the street joke, like you were saying.

    26. BSBrian Simpson44:29

        Yeah. Some, well some people steal jokes, but some people just, they just, they, you know-

    27. JRJoe Rogan44:35

        (sniffs)

    28. BSBrian Simpson44:35

        ... there were kids that were like raised on this.

    29. JRJoe Rogan44:37

        Yes.

    30. BSBrian Simpson44:38

        And it's just how they think.
13. 51:55 – 55:43

    Hard labor, farmer strength, and the hidden cost of physical work

    1. BSBrian Simpson51:55

       Yeah. I knew ... It was a mo- ... I was in the service with a motherfucker like that. I forg- ... And I for- ... I forget his name off the top of my head, but he was one of these motherfuckers that was like ... He was raised on a farm, like, for real.

    2. JRJoe Rogan52:06

       Yeah.

    3. BSBrian Simpson52:07

       And he just had to fucking work every day. Like, he f-

    4. JRJoe Rogan52:10

       Hmm.

    5. BSBrian Simpson52:10

       It was like ... He's the only person I've ever met like this in my life where it's like, you know, it's lunchtime and we got, we got an hour, and he spends 15 minutes eating his lunch standing up and then goes back to work. He's one of those type of people-

    6. JRJoe Rogan52:22

       Oh, Jesus.

    7. BSBrian Simpson52:22

       ... that just loves to work. He doesn't f- ... He feels like shit if he doesn't get a hard day's work in. I'm like-

    8. JRJoe Rogan52:27

       Hmm.

    9. BSBrian Simpson52:28

       Yeah. He's built different than me.

    10. JRJoe Rogan52:30

        Yeah. Some people like it almost, like, as a physical exercise activity. They like a hard day of work chucking hay at the farm.

    11. BSBrian Simpson52:36

        Yeah.

    12. JRJoe Rogan52:36

        You know? Those motherfuckers are strong as shit too.

    13. BSBrian Simpson52:39

        Yeah. They hard, man.

    14. JRJoe Rogan52:40

        Those people that throw hay around-

    15. BSBrian Simpson52:42

        Yeah.

    16. JRJoe Rogan52:42

        ... shake hands with one of those dudes. It's like-

    17. BSBrian Simpson52:43

        Been doing it since, since they was a kid. I went to-

    18. JRJoe Rogan52:45

        Farmer's strength.

    19. BSBrian Simpson52:46

        (clears throat) When I was in college, like, I was h- ... I was hard up for money and, uh, my roommate, his parents were looking for, like ... They, uh, his parents were, uh ... They were ... They took care of animals. So, they had, like, a small farm. They ... You know, where they had, like, six cows, you know, like, 40 dogs.

    20. JRJoe Rogan53:02

        Hmm.

    21. BSBrian Simpson53:02

        You know, like, it was-

    22. JRJoe Rogan53:02

        Yeah.

    23. BSBrian Simpson53:02

        ... one of those type of places. But he was a, he was a farm animal veterinarian, his father. But they had a little property and they wanted me ... So, just so I could make a little extra money, they pulled me out, they pulled me over there to, uh ... I was supposed to, to chop down, uh, weeds for them. Like, it was, it was these, it was these, these crazy vines that, like, you have to fucking beat them down with chains and chop them up. You know what I mean?

    24. JRJoe Rogan53:24

        Yeah.

    25. BSBrian Simpson53:24

        And I worked for these motherfuckers for one day. And they, and they, they were like, "We're good. We're good. (laughs) We don't need you to come back." (laughs) You know what I mean?

    26. JRJoe Rogan53:32

        Yeah.

    27. BSBrian Simpson53:33

        'Cause it was like ... No, 'cause the first day I bust my ass, you know? And they, and they were like, "Good job." And the second day, I was like, I just d- ... I was like, I ... My body didn't have it. I just didn't have anything left. And this dude told me, like, he grew up doing this.

    28. JRJoe Rogan53:45

        Yeah, but you gotta build up to that.

    29. BSBrian Simpson53:47

        Yeah.

    30. JRJoe Rogan53:48

        Physical labor like that is like working out. It really is. I had a summer that I worked building a construction ramp, like, a, uh, a r- a wheelchair ramp rather, for, uh, Knights of Columbus Hall. So the, for the whole summer, for, like, whatever l- length of time I ... I only think I kept the job for a month. I had to carry cement bags and tr- pressure-treated lumber the whole summer. So it's 100 degrees outside, whatever the fuck it was, 90 degrees outside, and I've got cement bags on my shoulder. I'm hiking them up this fucking ramp and carrying pressure-treated lumber. And pressure-treated lumber is chemically treated lumber. And those splinters, you get infected-
14. 55:43 – 1:16:02

    Combat sports deep dive: Mayweather’s longevity, UFC gloves, and elite striking (Izzy/Pereira)

    1. BSBrian Simpson55:43

       I feel like every victory take a piece out of you.

    2. JRJoe Rogan55:45

       (smacks lips) Some of them do. Yeah. Well, that's the difference between Floyd and everybody else, in my opinion. When people talk about the best boxer ever, I'm like, "Man, it's hard to make an argument against Floyd Mayweather because he's the only guy that never really got fucked up."

    3. BSBrian Simpson55:59

       Yeah, that's true.

    4. JRJoe Rogan55:59

       He, he only got hit hard, like, three or four times ever.

    5. BSBrian Simpson56:03

       Yeah. And he ... And, and the thing is, you look at he, he was in his prime for, like, longer than anybody else.

    6. JRJoe Rogan56:11

       Yeah.

    7. BSBrian Simpson56:12

       Yeah. He never really had a falling-off period.

    8. JRJoe Rogan56:14

       No.

    9. BSBrian Simpson56:15

       And-

    10. JRJoe Rogan56:15

        He's the best at not getting hit.

    11. BSBrian Simpson56:17

        Yeah. And then people talk about how he, you know, how he ... You know, everyone always made excuses about how, y- you know, "Oh, well, he fought somebody when they were young or whatever." And it's like, he fought, he fought the dude when he was 40.

    12. JRJoe Rogan56:29

        Yeah.

    13. BSBrian Simpson56:29

        Floyd was 40.

    14. JRJoe Rogan56:30

        Yeah.

    15. BSBrian Simpson56:31

        And they're like, "Oh, well he's picky, he's cherry-picking." I'm like-

    16. JRJoe Rogan56:33

        Of course he is.

    17. BSBrian Simpson56:34

        He's fighting the ... Well, yeah, he's 40 years old.

    18. JRJoe Rogan56:36

        Well, not just that. Every boxer wants to do that. It's a smart thing to do, up until you get to a certain point, and then you have to fight the other champions. But it's a smart way to maximize your money, it's a smart way to get more ring experience, and you know, it's a smart way to, to keep defending your title. Like a lot of guys would rather fight a guy when he's slightly over the hill. And with Floyd and Manny Pacquiao, I think he was pretty clever.

    19. BSBrian Simpson57:00

        Mm-hmm.

    20. JRJoe Rogan57:00

        'Cause look, Manny Pacquiao, when he was young was a real problem. His hand speed was spectacular. His cardio was spectacular. His punching power was ridiculous. He was a real fucking problem. And Floyd played that nice and slow, nice and slow.

    21. BSBrian Simpson57:17

        (laughs)

    22. JRJoe Rogan57:17

        And when he caught Manny, it was ... Man, he was, you know, he'd been knocked out by Barrera, he wasn't the same Manny anymore.

    23. BSBrian Simpson57:24

        And di- and didn't he also lose to, um (smacks lips) who was his ra- his rival that Floyd, Floyd beat? Floyd made that boy look ordinary.

    24. JRJoe Rogan57:33

        (smacks lips) Who was that?

    25. BSBrian Simpson57:34

        You know what I'm talking about? I can't remember his fucking name.

    26. JRJoe Rogan57:36

        Though, wasn't that, um, who? Oh, Juan Manuel Marquez.

    27. BSBrian Simpson57:39

        Yeah, Marquez, yeah, yeah.

    28. JRJoe Rogan57:40

        Yeah, I, I said Barrera. I meant Marquez. I fucked that up. Um, yeah, Juan Manuel Marquez, he knocked out Manny in the last fight. They had three fights together.

    29. BSBrian Simpson57:49

        Right.

    30. JRJoe Rogan57:49

        I think they split decisions and then he knocked him out. I forgo- I think, I forget. But anyway, Floyd just boxed the pants off of him.

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