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Joe Rogan Experience #1845 - Zachary Levi

Zachary Levi is an actor best known as the star of the superhero film "Shazam!" and the hit television series "Chuck." His new memoir, "Radical Love: Learning to Accept Yourself and Others" is available now.

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Jun 27, 20242h 25mWatch on YouTube ↗

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    (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast,…

    1. NA

      (drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out. The Joe Rogan Experience.

    2. ZL

      Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night, all day. (rock music) How are you, uh, uh, acclimatizing to Austin?

    3. JR

      I love it.

    4. ZL

      It's great, isn't it?

    5. JR

      Yeah, I've been here now ... Like, we're going? Yeah, so I've been here now for two years and just totally feels like home. I love it.

    6. ZL

      It's such a great town.

    7. JR

      It's the best. The people are so nice.

    8. ZL

      Yeah.

    9. JR

      It's such a great place to live.

    10. ZL

      Yeah. And it's, one of the things I love about it is how well nature is protected here.

    11. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    12. ZL

      Like Barton Springs, for example. Or even like, I can't think of another s- major city I've been to, anywhere in the world, that has a river that goes through the middle of the city-

    13. JR

      Yeah.

    14. ZL

      ... that anyone is playing on. Austin is the only place I've ever been to where there's a river in the middle of the city and there's people kayaking and paddle boarding and doing all of the things. You're like, "That's what we should be doing in all of our rivers."

    15. JR

      And it's clean.

    16. ZL

      It's so clean.

    17. JR

      Yeah, that's what's crazy.

    18. ZL

      Yeah.

    19. JR

      You know, one of the comedy clubs that I was going to buy, there was a problem with it, and the problem was there was a parking lot, and the parking lot was at the bottom of a long hill. And if it rained, the rainwater would come down and get all the oil and all the bullshit from people's cars-

    20. ZL

      Yeah.

    21. JR

      ... from the parking lot and then take it over the hill into the creek.

    22. ZL

      Oh.

    23. JR

      And so they, they were supposed to have installed this big-

    24. ZL

      Grape or something?

    25. JR

      ... bio containment pond.

    26. ZL

      Oh.

    27. JR

      Yeah, it's a really wild thing. They had to like literally build a pond and then, then they had to surround the pond with very specific plants that filter out shit-

    28. ZL

      To kind of suck it up. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yeah.

    29. JR

      ... and suck everything up. I was like, "I'm out." (laughs) I was like-

    30. ZL

      (laughs) That's more than I want. Thanks.

  2. 15:0030:00

    Let's find out his…

    1. ZL

      um, Luke Kirby? Uh, I think it's Luke Kirby. I could be totally wrong.

    2. JR

      Let's find out his name, give him some props-

    3. ZL

      If I'm mangling this, I'm so sorry.

    4. JR

      ... because he does a really good job.

    5. ZL

      He's so good, man.

    6. JR

      Really good job.

    7. ZL

      Like, it's so spot on.

    8. JR

      Yeah. You believe it.

    9. ZL

      Yeah.

    10. JR

      Yeah.

    11. ZL

      I love, I love standup comedy. I've been, um...

    12. JR

      Oh, Luke Kirby.

    13. ZL

      Yeah, Luke Kirby.

    14. JR

      You nailed it.

    15. ZL

      There you go, Lukie boy.

    16. JR

      And he looked very much like Lenny Bruce.

    17. ZL

      Oh, yeah. His man- He's really got the mannerisms down.

    18. JR

      Yeah.

    19. ZL

      I remember watching and rehearsing, like, listening to old Lenny Bruce-

    20. JR

      Yeah.

    21. ZL

      ... and, like, just trying to find that rhythm and the cadence and stuff. And, oh, it, he's so good. I mean, everybody in the cast is so good.

    22. JR

      That time is a strange t- Like, standup by itself is a very strange thing, because it's, a lot of the old standup doesn't work anymore, because it's just, you already know those things. Like, uh, they're not f- they're not shocking. They're, you know, like-

    23. ZL

      Yeah.

    24. JR

      ... these are all like, uh... But it's because people like him-

    25. ZL

      Well, the envelope has been pushed so far.

    26. JR

      Yeah.

    27. ZL

      I mean, the envelope is off the, (laughs) the edge at this point-

    28. JR

      Yes.

    29. ZL

      ... as far as what is comedic material and what, you know, what roads can be crossed and all that jazz.

    30. JR

      For sure, but Lenny was the first guy to push it.

  3. 30:0045:00

    I- …

    1. ZL

      and-

    2. JR

      I-

    3. ZL

      ... feel something very deep through it. You know what I mean?

    4. JR

      I think it's a method to achieve focus, for sure. And I think, just, one of the things about prayer is prayer is very similar to meditation in that they're both, like-... really good. They're both really good for you.

    5. ZL

      Certainly.

    6. JR

      So meditation where you're th- literally thinking about nothing, and prayer, where you're praising God or thinking about the energy of the universe-

    7. ZL

      Yeah.

    8. JR

      ... or whatever it is.

    9. ZL

      Yeah.

    10. JR

      What you're doing is, you're, you're putting out gratitude. You're putting out this, like, feeling of, of appreciation.

    11. ZL

      Yes.

    12. JR

      And all of those things are, like, really good ideas.

    13. ZL

      Absolutely. But that-

    14. JR

      All those things are really good.

    15. ZL

      And but that, by doing that, j- I mean, ju- the thought exercise is, by doing that, you change your aura. You change your energy. You are also rewriting the neuroplasticity in your mind to break those habits and those cycles that have just been stuck there.

    16. JR

      I think, I think you definitely do something. Something's going on. I don't know if it's through your aura, though.

    17. ZL

      I don't know.

    18. JR

      When people start talking auras and chakras, I'm like, "Slow down. Slow down."

    19. ZL

      Listen, I-

    20. JR

      Are we talking nonsense? (laughs)

    21. ZL

      I don't know. I mean, listen, listen, listen.

    22. JR

      I'm not sure. (laughs)

    23. ZL

      Maybe it is. Maybe it is.

    24. JR

      I don't know.

    25. ZL

      But i- it's no more nonsense than anything else that we think-

    26. JR

      Right.

    27. ZL

      ... is probably true. Like, I don't know, man.

    28. JR

      Right. And it probably really also puts you in a positive state of mind, which can be very effective at improving your life.

    29. ZL

      Yeah.

    30. JR

      Yeah. And-

  4. 45:001:00:00

    They, they have done…

    1. JR

      same amount of people would be doing drugs if we just legalized everything. I bet it would all, uh, I bet it would even out. I bet it would hav- actually drop a level.

    2. ZL

      They, they have done s- studies. I mean, there are some, some cases already, in Colorado, I read an article not too long ago, that, uh, Colorado's, uh, marijuana usage has dropped.

    3. JR

      Yeah.

    4. ZL

      Because it's-

    5. JR

      'Cause it's too fucking strong. (laughs)

    6. ZL

      (laughs)

    7. JR

      Have you tried some of that shit?

    8. ZL

      Uh-

    9. JR

      Colorado's not fucking around, man.

    10. ZL

      No, no, no.

    11. JR

      Colorado has some preposterous marijuana, 'cause they were first to the game.

    12. ZL

      I know.

    13. JR

      You know, Warren Buffett-

    14. ZL

      I know.

    15. JR

      ... invested in grow ops there.

    16. ZL

      Yeah.

    17. JR

      He invested in warehouses-

    18. ZL

      Yeah, yeah, yeah.

    19. JR

      ... that they would, uh, put these, 'cause they, a lot of them, they grow 'em indoors.

    20. ZL

      The ... Oh, yeah, almost all of them, I feel-

    21. JR

      Yeah, I feel like all of 'em.

    22. ZL

      ... like, I've been to, I've been to some really interesting grow houses before. Yeah, Okla- Oklahoma actually has, um, it's medically, um, cool there, and I think they're gonna be working toward making it recreational as well.

    23. JR

      Really?

    24. ZL

      Which I hope they do. I think it would be great for the, for the state, for taxes, for, like, all of the things that could be done with that, and, you know, allowing people to have more liberty in that regard, because I think we ought to have that. I think it's preposterous that we're all allowed to drink booze, which has some of the worst, you know, ultimate effects in our bodies and the decision-making that we do, and yet these other things are still seen with so much stigma. It's like, guys, come on. Again, choosing fear.

    25. JR

      Exactly.

    26. ZL

      Fear, fear, fear, and it's like, "Guys, the, there, there's w- ... Some of this stuff is really good for you. It's really good for you."

    27. JR

      Yeah, and the amount of money that could be generated for tax revenue, too. Colorado had some crazy tax on, on weed.

    28. ZL

      Yeah.

    29. JR

      It was like... I don't remember what it was, but it was very high. And, like, good. Weed's still cheap. It's still cheaper than, than alcohol, and maybe that money will go to good. Maybe we could actually use that money.

    30. ZL

      Yeah. Yeah.

  5. 1:00:001:06:14

    They, they can't be…

    1. ZL

      no. Politic-

    2. JR

      They, they can't be picked.

    3. ZL

      I mean, it's, a politician... Ah, man, it just breaks my heart. It breaks my heart how fucked up our entire political system is. It's so sad. It is so fucking sad.

    4. JR

      It's so weird.

    5. ZL

      It's so weird, and it's so-

    6. JR

      They're so-

    7. ZL

      ... bought. Everyone's bought, all, the lobbyists-

    8. JR

      Yeah.

    9. ZL

      ... bought everything and everyone. And we're all just w- looking around being like, "How is this all not working?"

    10. JR

      Yeah.

    11. ZL

      It's because the fucking money, guys. Just follow the goddamn money.

    12. JR

      Yeah.

    13. ZL

      Um, I don't know, man. I mean, like, uh, the Dalai Lama, you know, like, legitimately, like, uh, I- I don't know that he's-

    14. JR

      You know he got canceled?

    15. ZL

      The Dalai Lama got canceled?

    16. JR

      Dalai Lama got canceled. He was saying a bunch of-

    17. ZL

      How?

    18. JR

      ... sexist shit.

    19. ZL

      What?

    20. JR

      Yeah. He was, uh... (laughs)

    21. ZL

      Well, here's the thing.

    22. JR

      It was a while back. Let me remember what he was saying. Oh, he was talking about how (laughs) he doesn't, uh, he, he doesn't want to get married. And he sees his friends that are all married, and, uh, a lot of times they get divorced and they lose all their money. And then this lady goes, uh, "Well, sometimes the woman has her own money. She makes her own money." He goes, "Yeah, good one."

    23. ZL

      ... oh, what?

    24. JR

      (laughs)

    25. ZL

      The Dalai Lama said that?

    26. JR

      Yes, yes. He- (laughs)

    27. ZL

      Oh, wow.

    28. JR

      Dalai Lama was also asked-

    29. ZL

      The Dalai Lama's got jokes.

    30. JR

      ... about some comments he made in 2015, that if a female Dalai Lama were to replace him, that she must be very attractive, otherwise not so much use. (laughs)

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