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Joe Rogan Experience #1846 - Andrew Schulz

Andrew Schulz is a standup comedian, actor, and one of the hosts of the "Flagrant" and "Brilliant Idiots" podcasts. His new comedy special "Infamous" is available to purchase online until July 31.

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0:01 – 1:01

Independent comedy vs. streaming gatekeepers (and immediate tangents)

Narrator 0:01 (drumming music) Joe Rogan podcast. Check it out.

0:04 The Joe Rogan Experience.

Joe Rogan 0:06 Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (rock music) Hello, Andrew Schulz.

Andrew Schulz 0:13 Hello, Joe Rogan.

Joe Rogan 0:14 How is the independent comedy production world treating you?

Andrew Schulz 0:17 It's good.

Joe Rogan 0:18 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 0:19 (laughs) It's- it's a lot, uh, it's a lot more work.

Joe Rogan 0:22 Yeah, for sure.

Andrew Schulz 0:24 Hmm.

Joe Rogan 0:24 But, uh, you, uh, you cut free from the nipple.

Andrew Schulz 0:27 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 0:28 Like ...

Andrew Schulz 0:30 We did.

Joe Rogan 0:31 Without even mentioning names, tell me what, what happened. Like, how d- how did it ... I went to taping.

Andrew Schulz 0:37 (clears throat)

Joe Rogan 0:37 It was excellent.

Andrew Schulz 0:38 Thank you.

Joe Rogan 0:38 Looked great.

Andrew Schulz 0:38 Thank you for coming.

Joe Rogan 0:39 My pleasure.

Andrew Schulz 0:40 And thank you for bringing Cameron.

Joe Rogan 0:41 Yeah, brought Cameron Hanes. My wife came.

Andrew Schulz 0:43 Dripped in Gucci, dude.

Joe Rogan 0:44 Yeah, he's hilarious.

Andrew Schulz 0:45 Dude, that guy is a legend.

Joe Rogan 0:47 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 0:47 'Cause I've only seen him with his shirt off-

Joe Rogan 0:49 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 0:49 ... and like inspirational music in the background.

Joe Rogan 0:51 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 0:51 So when I-

Joe Rogan 0:52 Running up a mountain.

Andrew Schulz 0:52 Bro, I thought he was gonna be like Crocodile Dundee when I met him in person, and he was just like dripping-

Joe Rogan 0:58 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 0:58 ... in Gucci.

Joe Rogan 1:00 He likes Gucci.

Andrew Schulz 1:01 (laughs) He likes Gucci.

Joe Rogan 1:01 (laughs)

1:01 – 3:48

Cameron Hanes, first-time camping, and why nature isn’t a theme park

Andrew Schulz 1:01 And then I remember, I remember calling you, and I was like, I was like, "Dude, this guy's so interesting to me." Like, like, "What does he do? He just takes people on camping trips and stuff like that?" Like, "What's the thing?" And I think you were like, "No, I think he like moderates like pool levels in Oregon, or like moderates like water."

Joe Rogan 1:15 Yeah, he works for the Department of Water and Power.

Andrew Schulz 1:17 And I was like, "This is a fucking-"

Joe Rogan 1:18 For now.

Andrew Schulz 1:19 "... fashionable."

Joe Rogan 1:19 But he's a New York Times best-selling author, so he's quitting his job.

Andrew Schulz 1:22 Let's go, Cameron.

Joe Rogan 1:22 Yeah, he made a lot of money off the book.

Andrew Schulz 1:24 I told him I'm, I'm going hunting with him.

Joe Rogan 1:26 Really?

Andrew Schulz 1:27 Yeah. He didn't respond to me.

Joe Rogan 1:29 What are you gonna hunt?

Andrew Schulz 1:30 He (laughs) I just said, "We're going hunting." He's like, "Okay."

Joe Rogan 1:33 Yeah, that's how ... He's like, "Okay." Like prob- probably people say that to him every day.

Andrew Schulz 1:37 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:37 You know?

Andrew Schulz 1:38 But, uh, but yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:39 What would, what would you hunt?

Andrew Schulz 1:41 Oh, fuck, I don't know. I, I'm, I probably ... (sighs) I don't know.

Joe Rogan 1:45 Wild pigs is the best. Because they have to kill them.

Andrew Schulz 1:48 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:48 You can eat them. They're delicious.

Andrew Schulz 1:50 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:50 And they're ... It's literally an imperative.

Andrew Schulz 1:52 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:53 Like, you have to, especially in Texas.

Andrew Schulz 1:54 They're helping.

Joe Rogan 1:55 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 1:55 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:55 They're everywhere. There's so many of them.

Andrew Schulz 1:57 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:57 Millions.

Andrew Schulz 1:58 I wanna camp before I hunt.

Joe Rogan 2:00 Ah.

Andrew Schulz 2:00 Uh, first I wanna do camping, and then I'll do-

Joe Rogan 2:01 You've never gone camping?

Andrew Schulz 2:02 Never gone camping, no.

Joe Rogan 2:03 Oh, you're such a city boy.

Andrew Schulz 2:04 Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:05 Like Lil Duval would say, "City boy, city boy." (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 2:07 Yeah. (laughs) Duval's the best, bro. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:11 Yeah, it's, uh, the camping thing ... I mean, you're in a fucking cloth house out there with monsters.

Andrew Schulz 2:19 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:19 And that's real. A woman got killed a couple of days ago in Montana-

Andrew Schulz 2:23 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:23 ... by a grizzly bear. Pulled her out of her tent.

Andrew Schulz 2:25 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:25 Mauled her.

Andrew Schulz 2:27 You're like, you're like TMZ for that kinda shit.

Joe Rogan 2:30 Yeah, well, I pay attention, 'cause I go to those places.

Andrew Schulz 2:33 Yeah, I know.

Joe Rogan 2:33 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 2:34 It's on your radar. But like any time this happens, I feel like you're like, "Oh, dude, by the way-"

Joe Rogan 2:39 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 2:39 ... "There was an alligator attack in Orlando."

Joe Rogan 2:41 Yeah, I've seen those too.

Andrew Schulz 2:42 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:42 There's a lot of those.

Andrew Schulz 2:43 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:44 Yeah, it's, uh, it's real. Like, uh, that we live in this bizarre, sheltered world, and human beings have this interesting f- thought process. We only think about threats and danger and reality if it's right in front of us all the time.

Andrew Schulz 2:58 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 2:58 That's how we see the world.

Andrew Schulz 2:59 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 3:00 The stuff that's in front of us all the time, that's our reality.

Andrew Schulz 3:03 (sighs)

Joe Rogan 3:03 And so stuff like ... That's why you ever see those ... There's a, there's a great Instagram page called Tourons of Yellowstone.

Andrew Schulz 3:11 Okay.

Joe Rogan 3:11 Uh, tourons is a tourist moron.

Andrew Schulz 3:14 Okay.

Joe Rogan 3:14 And it's all people just getting launched into the air by buffalo.

Andrew Schulz 3:17 Guys ... Okay. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 3:19 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 3:19 Okay.

Joe Rogan 3:21 It's just these fucking idiots who come from like Chicago and they're used to cities and, uh, they've never really seen a buffalo and they're trying to get close for a selfie. And, you know, these things are in the rut. They're trying to fuck, you know?

Andrew Schulz 3:34 Game over.

Joe Rogan 3:35 This is a 2,000-pound giant-ass animal trying to fuck, and you're all there cock-blocking. And they just launch these fucking people.

Andrew Schulz 3:42 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 3:43 It's horrifying.

Andrew Schulz 3:44 See, that's, yeah, that's what like makes me a little bit afraid of doing it.

Joe Rogan 3:47 Yeah.

3:48 – 5:59

Nature as a humility reset—then empathy, wokeness, and the animal world

Andrew Schulz 3:48 Not necessarily afraid, but like I didn't really understand like the, um, I don't know, the allure of it. And then ... (sighs) Okay. I do understand the allure of nature. Like, we were talking about this before. I hit you about this before, but I think something happens where, like, you get this, like, reset. Like, even-

Joe Rogan 4:04 Yes.

Andrew Schulz 4:05 ... you see these, like, uh, you know, successful people. They'll go to, like, Montana. And they're not going to Montana to like let everybody know how nice their ranch is. Uh, I believe they're going to Montana 'cause they're like, "It's cool to look at mountains," and it's kind of like-

Joe Rogan 4:15 Mm-hmm.

Andrew Schulz 4:15 ... humbling, like-

Joe Rogan 4:16 Yes.

Andrew Schulz 4:17 ... which, dude, when I was, when I was, I hit you up, when I was on my honeymoon with my wife and I'm like looking at the fucking sunset off, off this beautiful island in Italy and I'm like ... I felt incredibly humbled.

Joe Rogan 4:27 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 4:28 And maybe you need that feeling.

Joe Rogan 4:29 Yes.

Andrew Schulz 4:29 Like, maybe your world gets so warped. And I wonder if you feel that way. Like, do you need to be in nature and feel so fucking vulnerable because your regular day, that's not something that you're experiencing?

Joe Rogan 4:41 Yeah, I think it's a reality check of what your relationship with the world really is. 'Cause we, uh, we live in cities and we drive in cars and we st- go into buildings, and you get confused and you think that is the world.

Andrew Schulz 4:53 Hmm.

Joe Rogan 4:53 But the world is filled with all kinds of variables. And one of the more fascinating variables is nature and wildlife.

Andrew Schulz 5:00 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 5:00 'Cause they're so uncaring about you.

Andrew Schulz 5:03 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 5:03 Like, one of the things that I always get when I'm in the mountains is like, these mountains don't give a fuck about you.

Andrew Schulz 5:07 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 5:08 They don't give a shit how many Instagram followers you have or how well your special did or-

Andrew Schulz 5:12 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 5:13 ... you know, how well your podcast is doing. They don't give a fuck.

Andrew Schulz 5:16 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 5:16 They, these are just tooth and claw and fang animals trying to get by.

Andrew Schulz 5:20 Okay. So, we know that, that that's nature, right?

Joe Rogan 5:25 Right.

Andrew Schulz 5:25 Does that give you any sort of like, uh, compassion or empathy to the ultra woke that are trying to over-care? It's like they-

Joe Rogan 5:35 I don't think that's what they're doing.

Andrew Schulz 5:37 Maybe, deep down, that's not what they're doing, right?

Joe Rogan 5:39 Right.

Andrew Schulz 5:39 But, uh, intellectually, they, they think that they're exercising it in that way.

Joe Rogan 5:43 They think they're doing the right thing.

Andrew Schulz 5:44 They're not doing the right thing.

Joe Rogan 5:45 Right, but they think they are.

Andrew Schulz 5:46 But they think they are.

Joe Rogan 5:47 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 5:47 And I wonder if, on some level, you look at how gnarly nature is, and you see, like, what humans are kind of capable of doing.

Joe Rogan 5:56 Right.

Andrew Schulz 5:56 You don't see that empathy in the animal world, I don't think.

5:59 – 11:30

Dolphins, bonobos, domestication, and what ‘civilization’ breeds out of us

Joe Rogan 5:59 No, there's no empathy.... the animal world has zero empathy, except dolphins. Dolphins have empathy towards people.

Andrew Schulz 6:05 Oh, my God, like-

Joe Rogan 6:06 They'll save people from sharks and shit like that.

Andrew Schulz 6:08 Don't they also, like, feed other animal... Isn't there, like, a... Maybe they were working with... I forget, some video I saw, they were, like, culling fish into this area so that the fishermen could extract them.

Joe Rogan 6:21 Really?

Andrew Schulz 6:22 Yeah, I saw some video of this. I don't know where the fuck it was, but-

Joe Rogan 6:24 By cooperating with the fishermen?

Andrew Schulz 6:26 I don't know if it was cooperating with the fishermen.

Joe Rogan 6:28 It doesn't seem like it makes sense.

Andrew Schulz 6:28 I don't know, maybe they were doing it for themselves and the fishermen would kinda take advantaging of, advantage of it.

Joe Rogan 6:31 That seems more likely.

Andrew Schulz 6:33 But, uh, but yeah, I don't know. It's like an interesting thing that we're capable of.

Joe Rogan 6:37 Mm-hmm.

Andrew Schulz 6:37 Like, to consider others, to consider others' discomfort and, like, want to help.

Joe Rogan 6:43 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 6:43 I think it gets bastardized and I think it gets abused.

Joe Rogan 6:45 Yes.

Andrew Schulz 6:46 But the fact that we can even get there.

Joe Rogan 6:49 Yeah, it separates us from everything else.

Andrew Schulz 6:51 Right?

Joe Rogan 6:51 Except f- for the dolphins. They, they, they look out for other species. That's what's interesting about them. Like, they look out for humans. They also rape humans.

Andrew Schulz 6:59 Hmm.

Joe Rogan 7:00 They do that.

Andrew Schulz 7:01 Right.

Joe Rogan 7:01 But usually when they do that, it's, like, at a marine world type situation.

Andrew Schulz 7:05 But also, do they know what that is?

Joe Rogan 7:07 No, they don't know what that is.

Andrew Schulz 7:07 So they don't... They're like, "Oh, yeah, we're just fucking and this is how fucking works."

Joe Rogan 7:10 Yeah, that's... Well, they're, they do infanticide, right? Dolphins kill their babies. Like, this is the way it works. Like, if a female dolphin gets pregnant, she, uh, cannot mate for, I believe it's... Look this up. I think it's, like, six years. I think the female dolphin-

Andrew Schulz 7:31 That's the gestation period?

Joe Rogan 7:31 Yes, she has to take care... No, it's not the gestation period, but it's the, the period where the baby dolphin is vulnerable, 'cause dolphins are similar in a, a slight way to human beings is that, in that, it takes a long time for the animal to mature 'cause their brains are so large and they're so intelligent.

Andrew Schulz 7:49 Mm.

Joe Rogan 7:50 You know, it's not like a chimp. Like, a chimp within, like, two years is-

Andrew Schulz 7:54 Send 'em out there.

Joe Rogan 7:54 Well, they, they're, they're strong right away. I remember we had a, uh, an episode of News Radio where... I don't think it ever... This, this part, I don't think they did anything with it. I think it got edited out 'cause, like, a lot of... You know, a sitcom's, like, 22 minutes, but a lot of times they'll have, like, 40 minutes of footage-

Andrew Schulz 8:11 Hmm.

Joe Rogan 8:11 ... and they're trying to just, like, get the most laughs and make the story move along. So, we had this thing where there was a, a baby chimp. And so this baby chimp, um, was on set. It had a diaper. It was, like, this big. And this thing got on my back and went... (slapping table) Just slapped me a couple of times and I was just like, "Whoa." It's like, it's so small and so fucking strong, and its body felt like it was made out of wood. Like, just fucking-

Andrew Schulz 8:38 Dense. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 8:39 It was just so strong.

Andrew Schulz 8:41 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 8:42 Like, we have in our i- in our head, like, "Oh, it's 150 pounds. I'm a 150 pounds. We're kinda the same." Like, you have no idea how strong those things are. It's so different than a human being. And we're so vulnerable, like, in comparison to them.

Andrew Schulz 8:58 Mm.

Joe Rogan 8:58 What was my point? We were talking about... I had a point.

Andrew Schulz 9:03 Breaking away from the, the tit of the industry.

Joe Rogan 9:07 Yeah, but that's not what...

Andrew Schulz 9:08 (laughs) No, I'm just kidding.

Joe Rogan 9:09 We, we went way-

Andrew Schulz 9:09 Yeah, yeah, that's what we do, baby. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 9:11 ... way past that. We were talk... Oh, oh, that's what it was. Like, so they're, they're slightly vulnerable when they're young.

Andrew Schulz 9:16 Mm.

Joe Rogan 9:16 But they're not nearly as vulnerable as, like, a human.

Andrew Schulz 9:18 You need more time to protect them.

Joe Rogan 9:19 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 9:20 Like, a human baby-

Joe Rogan 9:20 Humans can't even... They come out, they can't even move. Like, a deer comes out, they can kinda walk a little bit. And, like, fawns... You ever see how fawns, like deer fawns have, like, white spots all over their body?

Andrew Schulz 9:30 Okay.

Joe Rogan 9:30 They, it's so they blend in better, 'cause they just hide in the grass.

Andrew Schulz 9:34 'Cause they need to hide.

Joe Rogan 9:34 They need to hide-

Andrew Schulz 9:35 Because they can't run away.

Joe Rogan 9:36 ... because they can't run.

Andrew Schulz 9:36 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 9:36 They can't run yet. So oftentimes, the mother will leave their baby behind.

Andrew Schulz 9:40 Mm.

Joe Rogan 9:40 And the baby just lays there. So, if you find a baby deer, they just lay there. They don't try to run away from you.

Andrew Schulz 9:45 Huh.

Joe Rogan 9:45 And then they slowly get the ability to walk around. Like, right now, in Texas, the babies have been born and they're starting to walk around now, and it's been a few months. So, they're, like, on the highway sometimes. Like, you'll see a fawn. Like, the other day I was driving down this road and I had to stop the car, and this guy was, like, waving his arms. Like, I saw the deer, but this guy was waving his arms like ta-da-da 'cause there was this cute little baby and the little baby brother, and they were, like, trying to make their way across the road. But they're like this big. Little tiny ass deer.

Andrew Schulz 10:12 Okay, have you ever seen, um, a situation where, like, another animal recognizes that there's, like, an infant from a different species and then doesn't murder it?

Joe Rogan 10:24 No. No, they don't. They just eat it.

Andrew Schulz 10:25 That never happens?

Joe Rogan 10:26 No, they'll run up on it. Bears will... If you ever leave a baby in the woods, a bear will run up on it and eat it immediately.

Andrew Schulz 10:31 Now, what if the babies grow up together?

Joe Rogan 10:34 Doesn't matter.

Andrew Schulz 10:35 So, but you've seen these videos of, like, in the zoo where, like, a fucking cocker spaniel and a lion grow up together. And then for whatever reason-

Joe Rogan 10:41 Oh, okay.

Andrew Schulz 10:41 ... they don't eat each other.

Joe Rogan 10:42 Oh, you mean in a domestic situation?

Andrew Schulz 10:43 Yes.

Joe Rogan 10:44 Yeah, that's a little different. As long as the animal is very well fed, that's the thing.

Andrew Schulz 10:48 Mm.

Joe Rogan 10:49 They still have the instinct to kill.

Andrew Schulz 10:50 Mm.

Joe Rogan 10:50 So, like, a thing like a tiger or a lion or something like, they're always gonna have that instinct to kill.

Andrew Schulz 10:54 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 10:55 And it's exciting to them.

Andrew Schulz 10:56 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 10:56 Like, if something tries to run away from them, they always have this instinct to, to lock onto it and chase after it. They're never gonna get away from that.

Andrew Schulz 11:02 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 11:02 That's just a part of their DNA. You can't breed that out. But you could breed it out in, like, say, a dog. Like, the difference between a dog and a wolf is just thousands of years of breeding.

Andrew Schulz 11:11 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 11:11 It's the same animal.

Andrew Schulz 11:12 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 11:12 Which is wild.

Andrew Schulz 11:13 Yeah, yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 11:13 Like, my dog Marshall. Have you ever met Marshall?

Andrew Schulz 11:16 Uh-uh.

Joe Rogan 11:16 Sweetest fucking animal that's ever existed.

Andrew Schulz 11:18 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 11:18 All he wants to do is love everybody.

Andrew Schulz 11:19 Oh, no, I did meet him once at the old studio.

Joe Rogan 11:21 Everybody's his friend. Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 11:22 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 11:22 Everybody's his friend.

Andrew Schulz 11:23 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 11:23 But he's an ancestor of a wolf.

Andrew Schulz 11:25 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 11:25 They've turned him into this thing-

Andrew Schulz 11:28 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 11:28 ... through thousands of years of breeding.

11:30 – 16:12

Toxic masculinity, national power, and how comfort depends on ‘bad’ work

Andrew Schulz 11:30 Is that what they're doing to us?

Joe Rogan 11:30 Just like they're trying to do to man.

Andrew Schulz 11:32 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 11:33 Exactly. That's what they're trying to do to man.

Andrew Schulz 11:34 Where's Andrew Tate when you need him? (laughs)

Joe Rogan 11:36 Yes. That's the, this toxic femininity shit, or masculinity. Toxic femininity is right. That was a Freudian slip.

Andrew Schulz 11:43 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 11:43 But toxic masculinity, what that means is, like, oh, you mean the men who carved the world.

Andrew Schulz 11:48 Yes.

Joe Rogan 11:48 Like-

Andrew Schulz 11:49 Now you don't need them.

Joe Rogan 11:50 Yeah, exactly.

Andrew Schulz 11:50 So now you wanna get rid of them.

Joe Rogan 11:51 But you do need 'em. You just don't think you need 'em-

Andrew Schulz 11:53 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 11:53 ... because you don't need 'em right now.

Andrew Schulz 11:55 And, and then-

Joe Rogan 11:55 And then Russia has them.

Andrew Schulz 11:56 Exactly.

Joe Rogan 11:56 And China is making 'em more... China's making 'em more masculine.

Andrew Schulz 11:59 Yeah, yeah. So then what do we do? Like, how do we recognize this trait? Okay, we wanna make life more, we wanna make life more palatable for everyone, right?

Joe Rogan 12:07 Right.

Andrew Schulz 12:07 But sometimes you need some badass motherfuckers to do the things that a lot of people don't wanna do.

Joe Rogan 12:12 You do.

Andrew Schulz 12:12 And then the second life is safe, you go, "Well, why do we have bad people around?"

Joe Rogan 12:15 Exactly.

Andrew Schulz 12:16 "They might make some bad decisions." So, how do we keep the, quote unquote, like, "bad guys" around long enough-So in case something needs to be done, they handle it. And I think, like, the American way of doing it is going, "Hey we're just gonna, like, kind of create these little organizations that do the bad shit. And the American people don't really need to know about it."

Joe Rogan 12:34 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 12:35 "We'll go handle that stuff. You don't need to know. Enjoy your life and live your life."

Joe Rogan 12:38 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 12:39 "And we'll make sure everything is cozy and cool. And then you not voting for the guy that does the bad thing." It's kind of-

Joe Rogan 12:45 Unf-

Andrew Schulz 12:45 ... like a nice system.

Joe Rogan 12:46 Unfor- it's a very good system for creating, uh, innovation, right? Because you leave people-

Andrew Schulz 12:51 And emotional comfort.

Joe Rogan 12:53 ... the opportunity... Yeah, but you l- and you leave people the opportunity to go and do other things.

Andrew Schulz 12:55 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 12:56 But it also is an opportunity for people to be unrealistic about the world. Like, Israelis are very realistic about the world.

Andrew Schulz 13:04 They have to be.

Joe Rogan 13:05 They have to be.

Andrew Schulz 13:06 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 13:06 And they also have mandatory military service.

Andrew Schulz 13:09 Yes.

Joe Rogan 13:09 And there's a lot of people that have said that if America had mandatory military service, you'd have a lot more patriotism, a lot more people who understand, like, the role that the American military plays in the world.

Andrew Schulz 13:20 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 13:20 And that, you know, yeah, the am- the American military has done some fucking terrible things.

Andrew Schulz 13:24 Skin in the game.

Joe Rogan 13:25 Just like every single military organization that has ever existed in history.

Andrew Schulz 13:30 That had the power to.

Joe Rogan 13:31 Yes.

Andrew Schulz 13:32 That's the thing. Like, if you don't have power, you can't say what you would or wouldn't do-

Joe Rogan 13:35 Right.

Andrew Schulz 13:35 ... with that power. It's hard. Like, if you really look at, like, the American power structure and the benevolence attached to it, like, that to me is, like, the most impressive thing about, like, a George Washington stuff. Like, you could have ran it back. Everybody loves you. You could just continue to be the new king, if you will.

Joe Rogan 13:52 Right, like-

Andrew Schulz 13:53 And-

Joe Rogan 13:53 ... Putin has done in Russia.

Andrew Schulz 13:54 Literally.

Joe Rogan 13:54 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 13:54 And, and he's supported.

Joe Rogan 13:56 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 13:56 Right? The people there, for the most part, love him.

Joe Rogan 13:59 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 13:59 At least that's the information we're getting. But, like, I even talk to guys like Lex, and it's like, yeah, the people, there are people there that love him. He's, like, favorable.

Joe Rogan 14:05 Well, it's also, they control the media, right?

Andrew Schulz 14:06 Exactly, so they're getting the shit that's out there.

Joe Rogan 14:08 So propaganda, like-

Andrew Schulz 14:09 100%.

Joe Rogan 14:09 I was talking to someone who has a relative over there in Russia, and they were saying that th- they thought that Ukraine was filled with Nazis.

Andrew Schulz 14:19 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 14:19 And they were over there to liberate the Ukrainian people, and that the, the... So the propaganda is that Ukraine has been run by Nazis.

Andrew Schulz 14:27 Yo, liberation is a great excuse for invasion, bro.

Joe Rogan 14:30 Oh, yeah. It's a great excuse.

Andrew Schulz 14:32 It's benevolent.

Joe Rogan 14:33 Yeah, I mean-

Andrew Schulz 14:33 You wanna be the good guy.

Joe Rogan 14:34 It's literally what they did to go into Iraq-

Andrew Schulz 14:38 Of course.

Joe Rogan 14:38 ... in the First War, when they-

Andrew Schulz 14:39 Yeah, or every time we-

Joe Rogan 14:40 ... when they invaded Kuwait. Like, "Oh, we have to save those Kuwaitis." Like, "Why?"

Andrew Schulz 14:42 Those poor Kuwaitis. People in America don't even know who the fuck Kuwait is.

Joe Rogan 14:45 Right. What are we doing?

Andrew Schulz 14:45 Can't spell Kuwait.

Joe Rogan 14:46 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 14:46 But I wonder if (laughs) ... And, like, I've joked around about this, but I wonder if, like, life gets to a certain point of inconvenience where you start being okay with dark tactics being taken to return you to convenience.

Joe Rogan 15:00 Oh, for sure.

Andrew Schulz 15:01 You know what I mean?

Joe Rogan 15:01 Yeah, once things get ugly-

Andrew Schulz 15:03 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 15:03 ... then you're m- more than happy to have the military go and do awful shit.

Andrew Schulz 15:07 It's not... The military, it's like... I got a lady in my building, right-

Joe Rogan 15:10 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 15:10 ... who's like... She's kinda like a Karen, right?

Joe Rogan 15:13 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 15:13 And, Joe, I love her-

Joe Rogan 15:16 Do you?

Andrew Schulz 15:16 ... because she does the shit I want her to do.

Joe Rogan 15:20 She's the Antifa of your building.

Andrew Schulz 15:21 Yeah, but, like, somebody's la-

Joe Rogan 15:23 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 15:24 Somebody's fucking loud. Somebody's having-

Joe Rogan 15:26 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 15:26 ... a crazy party. "I know Danielle's got it."

Joe Rogan 15:29 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 15:29 Like, I don't gotta call-

Joe Rogan 15:30 Right.

Andrew Schulz 15:30 ... nobody.

Joe Rogan 15:30 Right.

Andrew Schulz 15:31 I might send a text. Like, "Danielle, are you hearing this?" Already on it.

Joe Rogan 15:34 Ah!

Andrew Schulz 15:34 So it's like-

Joe Rogan 15:34 Already on it! (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 15:35 ... that's my CIA. Do you know what I'm saying? (laughs) Like...

Joe Rogan 15:37 She's your Antifa.

Andrew Schulz 15:38 The sheik- or Antifa or whatever the organization is.

Joe Rogan 15:40 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 15:40 Like, the second, the second life is- the gas prices are too high-

Joe Rogan 15:43 Mm-hmm.

Andrew Schulz 15:43 ... all of a sudden weapons of mass destruction, or the second anything is about to be inconvenient-

Joe Rogan 15:47 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 15:47 ... there's the group that go- goes and does it. And then I don't have to feel weird, like-

Joe Rogan 15:50 Right.

Andrew Schulz 15:51 ... I snitched on the person in the elevator.

Joe Rogan 15:52 Yes.

Andrew Schulz 15:52 I just get to sit and smile. That's, I think, the American or, like, the Western experience.

Joe Rogan 15:56 Right.

Andrew Schulz 15:56 We're removed from the things we would feel guilty about. Like, even in America, we all say, like, to everybody around the world, like, "Oh, yeah, we hate that they did that thing with their weapons of mass destruction." We-

Joe Rogan 16:06 Right.

Andrew Schulz 16:06 It's disgusting what they did in Iraq. We like $3 gas.

Joe Rogan 16:10 Right.

Andrew Schulz 16:11 That's nice for us.

16:12 – 19:34

Brittney Griner, selective outrage, and the economics/sexualization of women’s sports

Joe Rogan 16:12 Well, I mean, even things that aren't as ugly, like how about this Brittney Griner situation?

Andrew Schulz 16:16 Yes.

Joe Rogan 16:17 Right? Brittney Griner is imprisoned right now in Russia-

Andrew Schulz 16:20 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 16:20 ... because she went over there to play basketball, and she had, uh, cannabis oil-

Andrew Schulz 16:25 Hash oil or some shit.

Joe Rogan 16:25 ... vape cartridges that she had on her.

Andrew Schulz 16:28 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 16:28 She d- I, I don't know if she just didn't know they were illegal or if she tried to sneak them in. Uh, and they're, they've got her arrested. It's against the law, and she might do 10 years in jail over there, which is fucking horrific.

Andrew Schulz 16:40 But let's also clarify-

Joe Rogan 16:40 She's already been over there for months. But here's what's important-

Andrew Schulz 16:43 But these are the poli- yeah.

Joe Rogan 16:44 But hold on.

Andrew Schulz 16:44 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 16:45 People are freaking out about this, right?

Andrew Schulz 16:46 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 16:46 They're freaking out. Russia needs to let her go. We have people in America right now locked up for marijuana, and they've been locked up for fucking years.

Andrew Schulz 16:53 That's funny.

Joe Rogan 16:54 For years and years-

Andrew Schulz 16:55 That's funny.

Joe Rogan 16:55 ... and years. And there's not one.

Andrew Schulz 16:56 That's funny.

Joe Rogan 16:56 There's thousands of them.

Andrew Schulz 16:57 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 16:57 So, what, they're not good at throwing a fucking ball into a net?

Andrew Schulz 17:00 (laughs) Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 17:01 Is that what it is?

Andrew Schulz 17:02 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 17:03 They're not good at that one thing that we like to watch, so-

Andrew Schulz 17:05 Oh, dude.

Joe Rogan 17:05 ... those fucking people don't get let out?

Andrew Schulz 17:08 Yeah. That's the other thing that we do, right? We completely compartmentalize our rage.

Joe Rogan 17:12 Oh, yeah.

Andrew Schulz 17:12 And it's like Brittney Griner is this perfect situation for us to, like, create, um, the, like... It's not just inconvenience but, like, the imperfection in the system. Like, why is this... If this was-

Joe Rogan 17:23 Right.

Andrew Schulz 17:23 ... LeBron, then it wouldn't have happened. I've seen-

Joe Rogan 17:24 Right.

Andrew Schulz 17:24 ... a lot of, like, think pieces about that kinda stuff. But at the same time ... (laughs) Okay, side note. Brittney Griner has existed in Russia and understands the corruption that moves within Russia. She knows that if it isn't wartime, where she's essentially become a proxy between America and Russia, she could bring whatever the fuck she wants.

Joe Rogan 17:42 She probably has been.

Andrew Schulz 17:42 She has been. It's, it's the same exact sh-

Joe Rogan 17:45 'Cause she's been going over there.

Andrew Schulz 17:45 Exactly.

Joe Rogan 17:45 She's been going over there playing ball for a long time.

Andrew Schulz 17:48 And dealing with these, you know, what is it? Uh, what are they called? The oligarchs. Like, these Russian oligarchs-

Joe Rogan 17:51 Mm-hmm.

Andrew Schulz 17:51 ... that they fund all the female basketball teams. It's like a fun pet project for them. And-

Joe Rogan 17:56 Do they really?

Andrew Schulz 17:56 Yeah. That... Do you think they pay women more to play basketball in Russia than in America-

Joe Rogan 18:01 I don't know.

Andrew Schulz 18:01 ... because it's profitable?

Joe Rogan 18:02 I've lit- literally don't know anything about it.

Andrew Schulz 18:03 Well, let's just take a test.

Joe Rogan 18:05 Okay.

Andrew Schulz 18:05 How, how, uh, how well do women's sports generally do throughout, throughout the world?

Joe Rogan 18:09 I wish I could do Hans Kim's new bit about this.

Andrew Schulz 18:12 What is it? What is it?

Joe Rogan 18:12 I can't. I can't, 'cause I don't wanna fuck it up for him.

Andrew Schulz 18:15 Okay. Well, you don't have to do the accent.

Joe Rogan 18:16 No, no, no. (laughs) He doesn't have an accent.

Andrew Schulz 18:18 We're, we're gonna get Shane to do it.

Joe Rogan 18:19 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 18:20 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 18:20 No, I can't do it because I don't wanna ruin his bit.

Andrew Schulz 18:22 Okay, fair enough.

Joe Rogan 18:22 'Cause he's, you know-

Andrew Schulz 18:23 Fair enough.

Joe Rogan 18:24 I'll tell you after we get off the air.

Andrew Schulz 18:25 All right, fair enough.

Joe Rogan 18:25 We'll remember. But it's fucking fantastic.

Andrew Schulz 18:27 Shout out to you, Hans.

Joe Rogan 18:28 It's so funny.

Andrew Schulz 18:28 Bro, it's so funny.

Joe Rogan 18:29 The kid's an animal.

Andrew Schulz 18:30 He, he's funny. And when I, when I met him, I was like, "Oh, it's so nice to meet you. I've seen your stuff on whatever and, uh, on Instagram and, like, you know, YouTube." He's posting a lot of stuff. He's going on tour with you. "So nice to meet you." And, um, like, he said, like, two things to me, like, that were the most Asian things ever. Like, he goes, "It is an honor-

Joe Rogan 18:47 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 18:47 And I was like, "Whoa, dude." Like-

Joe Rogan 18:49 Ah.

Andrew Schulz 18:49 I thought he was, like, a Texas Asian, like, no accent.

Joe Rogan 18:52 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 18:52 And he said, (in a deep voice) "Anna, this is a distinguished moment," or something like that, and I was like, "Whoa, you are coming on thick with the fucking Asian stuff."

Joe Rogan 18:58 But he's serious.

Andrew Schulz 18:59 But he's serious, and he, like, really-

Joe Rogan 19:00 He's sincere.

Andrew Schulz 19:01 And he likes the comedy. It feels like he's addicted.

Joe Rogan 19:03 Oh, he loves comedy.

Andrew Schulz 19:03 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 19:04 He's a fucking soldier for comedy, man.

Andrew Schulz 19:06 Yeah. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 19:07 He's all in, and he's a great guy, and he's really, really talented.

Andrew Schulz 19:10 Hmm.

Joe Rogan 19:11 He's really good, man.

Andrew Schulz 19:12 But to his bit, women's sports are not making that much money around the world.

Joe Rogan 19:16 Right.

Andrew Schulz 19:16 And unfortunately, this is kind of fucked up, but the reality is, if, if they're not in, like, a physically objectified situation, like they are in some positions, like female tennis for example, they got them walking around with these, like, t- tiny little skirts, ass cheeks fucking hanging out, tits flopping.

Joe Rogan 19:29 How about volleyball? You have to dress like a ho. (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 19:32 Bro. D- dude, they, that's what, that's what I understand, like-

Joe Rogan 19:34 (laughs)

19:34 – 24:52

Sex, standards, and scandal: workplace sexism, trans optics, and old-Hollywood hypocrisy

Andrew Schulz 19:34 ... when people talk about, like, sexism and shit, like, you know flight attendants have to wear heels onto the plane?

Joe Rogan 19:40 Do they?

Andrew Schulz 19:41 That's a law.

Joe Rogan 19:42 Well, no, uh, it's a rule. It's not a law.

Andrew Schulz 19:45 All right. It's a r- what is the difference? It's r-

Joe Rogan 19:47 Well, one of them is your employer, the other one is the government.

Andrew Schulz 19:49 Rules are laws for the business. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 19:50 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 19:50 But if you want to work for them, you could turn-

Joe Rogan 19:51 Is that true? You have to wear heels?

Andrew Schulz 19:52 I asked the lady at Delta. You have to wear heels onto the plane. Once you're on the plane, you can turn into a flat when you leave the heel.

Joe Rogan 19:59 What?

Andrew Schulz 20:00 All a heel does, I mean, you know this, it accentuates the muscles in your legs-

Joe Rogan 20:03 Right. Right.

Andrew Schulz 20:03 ... and it raises your ass to put you in, like, almost a doggy style type position.

Joe Rogan 20:07 Nice. Make it look nice.

Andrew Schulz 20:08 There we go.

Joe Rogan 20:09 Make that butt look nice.

Andrew Schulz 20:11 (laughs) So-

Joe Rogan 20:11 That is so sexist.

Andrew Schulz 20:12 Isn't that way more s-

Joe Rogan 20:13 'Cause does the man have to wear heels?

Andrew Schulz 20:15 Nope.

Joe Rogan 20:16 Wow.

Andrew Schulz 20:17 Now, a few of them flight attendants probably would enjoy that.

Joe Rogan 20:19 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 20:20 The male ones.

Joe Rogan 20:20 Did, did you see the, uh, the people that we sent to... What was it, where th- where they sent them? Um, they sent that four-star admiral who's a transgender man.

Andrew Schulz 20:33 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 20:33 And then the other person who's trans too.

Andrew Schulz 20:35 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 20:35 We sent them to... Was it France?

Andrew Schulz 20:38 The bald one.

Joe Rogan 20:39 Yeah, the bald one.

Andrew Schulz 20:39 The trans woman. Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 20:40 The trans woman, bald.

Andrew Schulz 20:41 She has a lot to look at. I mean, I don't know what she does, but-

Joe Rogan 20:43 There's a lot going on there.

Andrew Schulz 20:44 There's a lot going on there.

Joe Rogan 20:45 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 20:45 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 20:46 And they sent them to, I want to say France, but they were the United States, uh-

Andrew Schulz 20:51 Ambassadors.

Joe Rogan 20:52 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 20:52 But that works in France. They like that stuff.

Joe Rogan 20:54 Maybe.

Andrew Schulz 20:55 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 20:55 I don't know. Even in France, they're probably like, "This is too much."

Andrew Schulz 20:58 Is y- is it ever too much?

Joe Rogan 20:59 "This, I don't like."

Andrew Schulz 21:00 (laughs) I, I really don't know what the rules are in France.

Joe Rogan 21:03 They are trying too hard. This is... How do they smoke cigarettes like this? This is, there's something about this that I don't know how to do.

Andrew Schulz 21:10 Why can't they be normal, like, uh, have sex with little girls and we give them asylum here?

Joe Rogan 21:15 Oh, you mean like Roman Polanski?

Andrew Schulz 21:16 Yeah. I don't know who the fuck that guy is.

Joe Rogan 21:17 Isn't he fr- is he from France?

Andrew Schulz 21:19 Polanski?

Joe Rogan 21:19 What's wild is, like, people were making movies with that guy just, uh, up until, like, a couple of years ago.

Andrew Schulz 21:24 Dude, they do it with Woody Allen. That's my favorite thing about the Woody Allen thing is, like, when they ask the actresses-

Joe Rogan 21:28 Mm-hmm.

Andrew Schulz 21:28 ... and they're like, "Do you think he did it?" They ha- they did what? He's with her. But like-

Joe Rogan 21:34 Right.

Andrew Schulz 21:34 ... they have to say no, because if they say yes, they're doing it with a guy who's stat raping a girl.

Joe Rogan 21:41 Well, he's not anymore. She's a grown woman. And when-

Andrew Schulz 21:44 Well, early on.

Joe Rogan 21:45 But when do you think he started the relationship with her? That's where it gets squirrelly.

Andrew Schulz 21:48 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 21:48 The problem is, the wife is squirrelly too. Like M- Mia Farrow, she's squirrelly. Like, her-

Andrew Schulz 21:54 Yeah, she's a loony bin.

Joe Rogan 21:55 She's a loon.

Andrew Schulz 21:56 But-

Joe Rogan 21:56 So her version of reality, it's, it's very hard to parse, like, what's true and what's not true.

Andrew Schulz 22:00 Dude, there's no version of reality where, like, y- even if it's your wife's adopted daughter or whatever-

Joe Rogan 22:05 No, there's no version of reality-

Andrew Schulz 22:05 ... it's weird, bro.

Joe Rogan 22:06 ... where that's acceptable.

Andrew Schulz 22:06 Like, it's-

Joe Rogan 22:06 No, that's not my point.

Andrew Schulz 22:07 ... plain and simple weird.

Joe Rogan 22:08 She has stories of, like, them being together before, like, when he was, when she was really young.

Andrew Schulz 22:14 Oh, I don't, I don't know if I buy it. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 22:15 And then, and then there's also his daughter Dylan that has... Oh, the allegations, yeah. She has allegations too.

Andrew Schulz 22:20 But I think they looked into that and they did, like, some crazy investigation and they found it wasn't it.

Joe Rogan 22:24 How about h- how can you?

Andrew Schulz 22:26 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 22:26 Those are one of those things, it's like, how do you know unless you were there?

Andrew Schulz 22:30 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 22:30 You know, it's, it, that... So you can't comment on it, right?

Andrew Schulz 22:32 He believes in true love.

Joe Rogan 22:34 Oh boy.

Andrew Schulz 22:35 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 22:35 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 22:36 I mean, that's the only-

Joe Rogan 22:37 He was a pervy dude. You ever listen to his old standup?

Andrew Schulz 22:40 No.

Joe Rogan 22:40 Super pervy. Yeah. I've got some of his old standup. He's talking about girls. "I love girls. I love the way they walk in the heels." And like, he, like, it was, like, really, like, pervy.

Andrew Schulz 22:51 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 22:51 Kind of like Mitch Patel.

Andrew Schulz 22:53 Yes.

Joe Rogan 22:53 You know?

Andrew Schulz 22:54 But Mitch is playing the character.

Joe Rogan 22:55 But Mitch is a character.

Andrew Schulz 22:56 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 22:56 And Mitch is being really funny with it. With, with Woody, it was like, this is back in the day.

Andrew Schulz 23:00 This is how I really feel. Yeah.

Joe Rogan 23:02 Yeah, this is back in the day where, I don't know, man, I think people were just more primitive in the '60s.

Andrew Schulz 23:08 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 23:08 They fucking were, man.

Andrew Schulz 23:09 I mean, you saw the songs, right? Aren't there all those, like, songs by The Rolling Stones-

Joe Rogan 23:13 Oh yeah. Oh yeah, yeah.

Andrew Schulz 23:13 ... that, you know, singing about 15-year-olds and shit.

Joe Rogan 23:14 Christine, 16, Kiss. Yeah. Yeah, there was a lot of them.

Andrew Schulz 23:18 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 23:19 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 23:19 So maybe the age has changed. I mean, obviously it's changed, right? Like a woman who's 13-

Joe Rogan 23:22 100%.

Andrew Schulz 23:23 ... in, like, uh, ancient, uh-

Joe Rogan 23:25 Well, that's because people didn't fucking survive. You know, it was hard to survive back then.

Andrew Schulz 23:29 Right.

Joe Rogan 23:30 When someone got to breeding age, you bred with them as quickly as you could 'cause they probably weren't gonna make it to be 20.

Andrew Schulz 23:34 I mean, that's a wild, that's a wild, like, debate that's happening, a bunch of few guys, like, thousands of years ago. Like, "I don't wanna bang these young girls, but no one's living."

Joe Rogan 23:43 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 23:44 (laughs) They're all dying.

Joe Rogan 23:45 Well, I don't think they thought 15 was old back then.

Andrew Schulz 23:48 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 23:49 Or young back then. 'Cause I think, you know, with the average age of death, well, the average age of death is, it's complicated, right? Because when they calculate the average life expectancy of people that lived a long time ago-

Andrew Schulz 24:00 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 24:00 ... really, you have to factor in infant mortality, which screws everything up.

Andrew Schulz 24:04 And just-

Joe Rogan 24:04 Because so many children and babies died young that, like-

Andrew Schulz 24:08 And more too, like-

Joe Rogan 24:09 Right. But they, so they make the age, like, oh, the average person lived to be 30. Well, that fucks it up because a lot of them died at one.

Andrew Schulz 24:16 Yes.

Joe Rogan 24:16 Like a shit ton of them died and they were-

Andrew Schulz 24:17 And there were people who lived a long time. I think Michelangelo lived till, how long?

Joe Rogan 24:21 I don't know.

Andrew Schulz 24:22 I don't know. Jesus.

Joe Rogan 24:23 He's probably pretty old.

Andrew Schulz 24:23 But, like, there were people who lived long.

Joe Rogan 24:25 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 24:25 There were people who lived into their 80s back in the day.

Joe Rogan 24:27 Yeah, yeah, they did. Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 24:27 So it was possible, but again.

Joe Rogan 24:29 But the actual life expectance, like what's a person could actually live to-

Andrew Schulz 24:33 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 24:33 ... was probably the same.

Andrew Schulz 24:34 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 24:35 For most, for the most part.

Andrew Schulz 24:36 Also, wild to have a kid as a woman, like that primal urge back in the day, knowing that there was, like, a 25% chance it either killed you or the baby.

Joe Rogan 24:45 Ugh.

Andrew Schulz 24:45 I don't know what those percentages are, but knowing every time you're going into this, that, you want to talk about like your...That's why, I don't know-

Joe Rogan 24:52 (laughs)

24:52 – 37:47

Birth rates, delayed parenting, and how ‘outrage’ fills the kid-free years

Andrew Schulz 24:52 ... like, when I hear a lot of, like, um, people, like, our age or whatever like that. Like, there's a lot of women that are like, "I just don't want kids." And it's like, I understand intellectually why you might not, but there has to be a biological impulse inside of you yearning to do that.

Joe Rogan 25:07 I don't think it's for everybody. (clears throat)

Andrew Schulz 25:09 I, it-

Joe Rogan 25:09 I really don't think so.

Andrew Schulz 25:10 ... it's not for everybody.

Joe Rogan 25:11 But I, I don't think that the urge is for everybody.

Andrew Schulz 25:13 You think there are human beings-

Joe Rogan 25:15 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 25:15 ... whose one purpose on this earth is to procreate, who just do not have that in them?

Joe Rogan 25:19 I don't think that's the one purpose on the earth anymore. I think at one point in time when there was, uh, less people, I think the urge and the imperative to breed was much more strong. It was much stronger and it was, it was much more of a focus. I don't think that... I think the way nature works, and this is me just completely guessing.

Andrew Schulz 25:40 Mm.

Joe Rogan 25:40 When there's an abundance of people, like in h- in urban situations, people are much less likely to have children.

Andrew Schulz 25:48 Mm.

Joe Rogan 25:48 Do you know that that's the, the argument for underpopulation, right? Uh, population collapse. This is why Elon keeps having kids.

Andrew Schulz 25:55 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 25:55 Like, the population collapse-

Andrew Schulz 25:57 No, it's not. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 25:57 ... is-

Andrew Schulz 25:57 He's not single-handedly trying to, like, bring the population back.

Joe Rogan 26:00 But he literally is. Like, he's having-

Andrew Schulz 26:02 Joe.

Joe Rogan 26:02 ... a bunch of kids with people with-

Andrew Schulz 26:03 He's having 10 kids.

Joe Rogan 26:05 But he's having them with surr-

Andrew Schulz 26:06 It's nothing.

Joe Rogan 26:06 He's doing it with surrogates. It's not like he's just shooting loads into people. Like, he's making embryos and in vitro fertilization, and it's like he's doing wild shit to make-

Andrew Schulz 26:14 That is the dorkiest way to have kids.

Joe Rogan 26:15 ... to make people. But he's trying to do that. He's trying to make a lot of people.

Andrew Schulz 26:19 Yeah, but leave a load in, dude. Like, if you're gonna do the act, if you're gonna be with a person, you might as well enjoy it.

Joe Rogan 26:23 But I think genuinely he wants to make as many people as he can, genuinely.

Andrew Schulz 26:28 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 26:29 That's why he's, like, saving embryos and doing in vitro fertilization. Like, he's genuinely trying to contribute to the population. He thinks that population collapse is a, is a real issue. If you talk to him about it, he has a compelling argument about it.

Andrew Schulz 26:43 I'd like to hear it.

Joe Rogan 26:43 There is a com- there's a compelling argument that relates to-

Andrew Schulz 26:45 I think it's a primal breeding fetish, I'll be honest with you. I think that's what Nick Cannon has. And I think what happens is you just start to get addicted to this feeling of bringing life into it because there's this, this old impulse that's baked into our DNA that this is what we're supposed to do. And he's in a financial situation, or they both are, where they can do that, and there's not many restrictions put on them. But to, like, over-intellectualize it, like, "I'm trying to bring back the population." It's like, no, you get a kick out of it. It's fun.

Joe Rogan 27:08 No.

Andrew Schulz 27:08 You can afford it.

Joe Rogan 27:09 If you talk to him, I think you'd have a different opinion.

Andrew Schulz 27:11 Okay.

Joe Rogan 27:11 He, he genuinely thinks that it's important for people to have as many children as possible.

Andrew Schulz 27:15 Mm.

Joe Rogan 27:15 And he's basing this, is what I was getting to... There's studies where they talk about, um, urban environments and highly educated people are having less and less children.

Andrew Schulz 27:26 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 27:26 Because the woman has career, uh, the woman has a career, the man has a career.

Andrew Schulz 27:30 Yep.

Joe Rogan 27:30 They put it off. Did you ever see, um, uh, Idiocracy?

Andrew Schulz 27:34 (laughs) No, but, uh-

Joe Rogan 27:35 Hilarious.

Andrew Schulz 27:36 Yeah, yeah. Still holds up.

Joe Rogan 27:37 I just saw it recently.

Andrew Schulz 27:37 I know, I know, I know, I know. (clears throat) I got, I gotta watch.

Joe Rogan 27:39 But that's in Idiocracy.

Andrew Schulz 27:40 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 27:41 There's a couple in Idiocracy that's, like, really highly educated.

Andrew Schulz 27:43 You had him on, didn't you?

Joe Rogan 27:44 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Mike Judge.

Andrew Schulz 27:45 Yeah, he's brilliant, Judge.

Joe Rogan 27:46 He's the shit, I love him.

Andrew Schulz 27:47 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 27:47 Great guy. He lives here. Um, and, well, in that film, like, there's this one guy who lives in a trailer and he's got, like, 50 kids. He keeps fucking all these women, he's fucking the neighbor, he's having kids with everybody. And then there's this super educated couple that's holding it off and putting it off until they're, like, in their 40s.

Andrew Schulz 28:03 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 28:03 And then they can't have kids.

Andrew Schulz 28:04 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 28:04 And the guy doesn't have any sperm left and the girl's eggs are bad.

Andrew Schulz 28:07 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 28:07 That's the reality of-

Andrew Schulz 28:08 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 28:08 ... intelligent, educated people with careers-

Andrew Schulz 28:11 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 28:11 ... is that they have less children. And so-

Andrew Schulz 28:14 There's other pa-... Yeah.

Joe Rogan 28:14 ... that's the fear of population collapse in large urban environments. When, when people move up in, in, uh, economic status and they move up in terms of their career, that takes precedent over having children.

Andrew Schulz 28:27 Yeah, I think, I think that is happening. I mean, look, I mean, for me, I'm 38. I don't have kids yet. You know, my wife, uh, she just got her MBA. We haven't started having kids yet. I mean, I think in the very near future, you know, God willing, we'll be able to do that. But yeah, we put these other things first that-

Joe Rogan 28:42 Yeah. Well, that's what people do.

Andrew Schulz 28:44 Well, and I think that's... I think that's partially re- responsible for the extreme wokeness. Um, let me take you there in this. I haven't fully formed this thought, but basically, like, I think from my friends who have kids, once you have kids, the world shrinks, right? It's like, what matters are, is your family, what matters are those kids' lives, what's going on in their lives. Are they struggling? Do they not have friends in school? Is one of them hurt? Is one of them injured? Are they, like, developing emotionally?

Joe Rogan 29:17 Right.

Andrew Schulz 29:17 You don't have all this extra time to be worried about all these kind of, like, manifestations of outrage, right? And, like, if you have two fucking toddlers that you're carrying around all day and mustard stains all over your shirt, you're not exactly going to the march about Chappelle's Show and saying-

Joe Rogan 29:33 Right.

Andrew Schulz 29:33 ... "This is fucked up."

Joe Rogan 29:34 That's true.

Andrew Schulz 29:34 And I think what happens is in these urban centers where you're saying, these, like, cities, like New York, where I live, and these other ones, San Francisco and LA, kid- people are waiting so much longer to have children so they have so many more years to focus on the outrage or focus on-

Joe Rogan 29:52 Yes.

Andrew Schulz 29:52 ... what is wrong with the world. Now, I'm not saying that we shouldn't put focus on that. I'm just saying it is harder when you have three kids you have to take care of and provide for every single day.

Joe Rogan 29:58 Well, it's also there's a natural thing that happens to many intelligent women, uh, let's say in show business. They get older and they become activists. It's almost like automatic. They start-

Andrew Schulz 30:13 That's when the rolls dry up though.

Joe Rogan 30:14 Yeah, but then-

Andrew Schulz 30:14 Once the rolls dry up, it's like, "What do I have to do to stay on the ship?"

Joe Rogan 30:17 It's a little bit of that, but it's also, it's like they want relevance, they want something that's important to them, and so they wanna talk about, like, the problems of the world.

Andrew Schulz 30:27 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 30:28 Which women with children get a little upset saying, "Well, the problems of the world, like, we have to make the world better for the next generation."

Andrew Schulz 30:34 Yeah, I don't want my kids getting shot in school.

Joe Rogan 30:36 Right.

Andrew Schulz 30:36 That's the big problem.

Joe Rogan 30:37 Yes.

Andrew Schulz 30:37 The problem isn't your pronoun. The problem is-

Joe Rogan 30:40 Right.

Andrew Schulz 30:40 ... the kid could get shot in school, and I don't want that.

Joe Rogan 30:42 Well, it's also you want your children to be healthy. You don't want the rivers to be polluted. You don't want, you know, you don't want-

Andrew Schulz 30:48 You want them to have a, an inherited world.

Joe Rogan 30:50 ... global warming. Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 30:50 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 30:51 ... one of the things that happens when there's a giant mass of people, like cities-

Andrew Schulz 30:55 Hmm.

Joe Rogan 30:55 ... is you don't feel a primal urge to procreate.

Andrew Schulz 30:59 Because the people around you-

Joe Rogan 31:00 Because there's so many people.

Andrew Schulz 31:01 ... aren't procreating.

Joe Rogan 31:02 There's so many people.

Andrew Schulz 31:03 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 31:04 You know, that's what coyotes do. Do you know, when coyotes do roll call, you know, when they howl? (howls)

Andrew Schulz 31:09 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 31:09 When they're doing that, they're checking to see who's around. And if one of them doesn't respond, that means they're dead. And what happens with the female is, when a coyote gets killed out of a pack, the female coyotes will produce extra offspring in their litter. So, like, if a, if a coyote pack remains intact and they have no threat and they do the roll call all the time and all the coyotes respond-

Andrew Schulz 31:34 Less babies.

Joe Rogan 31:34 ... the female will have two or three cubs.

Andrew Schulz 31:37 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 31:37 But if they call out and then a coyote doesn't respond, or one or two is dead, then the female will have five, six, seven cubs. There's a natural thing that happens in their body where nature realizes they have to pick up the slack because there's, there's animals that are missing. When you're in an environment like an urban environment, and you are stuck on the 405 and there's fucking-

Andrew Schulz 32:00 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 32:00 ... millions of people-

Andrew Schulz 32:02 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 32:02 ... the last thing you think is, "Man, we need more people."

Andrew Schulz 32:05 More people, yeah.

Joe Rogan 32:05 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 32:06 That's-

Joe Rogan 32:06 It's just natural.

Andrew Schulz 32:07 Yes, yeah.

Joe Rogan 32:07 If it happens in other animals, you gotta think that it happens in people. This brings us back to dolphins. The reason why male-

Andrew Schulz 32:12 Elon is a coyote.

Joe Rogan 32:14 ... dolphins... No, Elon's... He's just logical. H- he thinks, he thinks like math.

Andrew Schulz 32:19 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 32:19 You know? He's, like, looking at this like, "Oh, I see where this is going."

Andrew Schulz 32:21 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 32:22 Like, he's, like, seeing it in terms of, like, 100-year curve. He's like, "We need a lot of people." Like, it's gonna s- people are gonna stop breeding.

Andrew Schulz 32:27 Hmm.

Joe Rogan 32:28 And there's gonna be a big fall off.

Andrew Schulz 32:30 Okay, you were saying with dolphins, though.

Joe Rogan 32:31 Dolphins, the female has to have this baby that she protects for, like, six, seven years, whatever the number is.

Andrew Schulz 32:38 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 32:39 So, male dolphins will come along-

Andrew Schulz 32:41 Kill the baby. (sighs)

Joe Rogan 32:42 And if they have ... Exactly. They'll kill the baby to force the, the female into estrus.

Andrew Schulz 32:46 Mm.

Joe Rogan 32:47 And so she'll wanna breed again and she'll fuck. So, the, the strategy that female dolphins have devised is they become sluts.

Andrew Schulz 32:55 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 32:55 So, female dolphins fuck as many male dolphins as possible so the male dolphin-

Andrew Schulz 33:00 So, everyone thinks it's theirs-

Joe Rogan 33:01 Exactly.

Andrew Schulz 33:02 ... and they all protect it.

Joe Rogan 33:02 Exactly.

Andrew Schulz 33:02 That's the bonobo chimpanzees thing.

Joe Rogan 33:05 Sort of. Chimpanzees-

Andrew Schulz 33:06 The bonobo ... No, the bonobos specifically.

Joe Rogan 33:08 ... use it for problem solving. But they, they use it for, for problem solving, and they use it for conflict resolution.

Andrew Schulz 33:13 Yeah, if-

Joe Rogan 33:13 They fuck to res- resolve tension.

Andrew Schulz 33:16 Wait a minute. My-

Joe Rogan 33:17 They're the only animal, other than us, that does it for pleasure.

Andrew Schulz 33:20 My understanding was specifically the bonobo chimpanzees have sex with everybody, like almost family members and everybody's fucking. And the idea was if everybody's fucking, we have to protect everyone because everybody could be your kid, they could be your father, they could be your uncle, et cetera.

Joe Rogan 33:34 Sort of, but the males fuck their kids.

Andrew Schulz 33:37 Which is bad.

Joe Rogan 33:38 It's bad. You know who doesn't fuck? The mother won't fuck the son. That's it.

Andrew Schulz 33:42 And that's our favorite porn.

Joe Rogan 33:43 Ah, stepmom porn.

Andrew Schulz 33:45 That's ... I think that's why Elon's dad didn't get much shit.

Joe Rogan 33:49 Oh, he got a lot of shit.

Andrew Schulz 33:50 It was for a week.

Joe Rogan 33:51 Yeah, but nobody knows who he is. It's like, why are you concentrating on some guy from South Africa?

Andrew Schulz 33:55 I mean, it's the, the father of the richest guy ever.

Joe Rogan 33:58 Right.

Andrew Schulz 33:58 I think that there's a reasonable amount of concentration.

Joe Rogan 34:01 Sort of the richest guy ever.

Andrew Schulz 34:02 Ooh, go on that.

Joe Rogan 34:03 Yeah, it's the, uh, the Saudis. They're the richest people ever. They just don't ... It's not public. Like, you know?

Andrew Schulz 34:09 Or Putin's the richest ever, but-

Joe Rogan 34:11 Yeah, he's one of the richest ever.

Andrew Schulz 34:12 But are you the richest ever?

Joe Rogan 34:13 The royal, oil families, they don't, they don't have to, uh, disclose their income.

Andrew Schulz 34:18 Hmm.

Joe Rogan 34:18 They're trillionaires. I talked to Dana White about this.

Andrew Schulz 34:20 But that's the family. This is a guy.

Joe Rogan 34:22 No, no, no, no, no, no. The amount of wealth, the amount of wealth from pulling billions of dollars of oil out of the ground a day-

Andrew Schulz 34:30 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 34:31 ... is fucking insane.

Andrew Schulz 34:33 Do they have weapons of mass destruction?

Joe Rogan 34:35 (smacks lips) Some countries do. Yeah, some of ... I mean, there's arguments that they might. It's like, look, you could buy it from Russia. Like, you could buy nuclear missiles back in the day. That's, uh, Operation Odessa. They, like, they tried to sell that guy, um, a, a, a submarine-

Andrew Schulz 34:49 Nuclear submarine.

Joe Rogan 34:50 Yeah, to, to move coke around in.

Andrew Schulz 34:52 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 34:52 And they asked him if he wanted nuclear missiles. And he's like, "What?"

Andrew Schulz 34:54 He's like, "Huh?" Yeah, 'cause they were-

Joe Rogan 34:56 Fuck.

Andrew Schulz 34:56 ... just trying to make money, right? They were just-

Joe Rogan 34:57 Exactly.

Andrew Schulz 34:57 ... selling everything they have.

Joe Rogan 34:58 "You want a missile? I sell you a missile as well."

Andrew Schulz 35:00 Yo, that's a wild thing to do.

Joe Rogan 35:02 Wild.

Andrew Schulz 35:02 Yeah, sell a nuclear missile.

Joe Rogan 35:04 Yeah, to a dude who's trying to run coke under the ocean.

Andrew Schulz 35:07 Dude, co-

Joe Rogan 35:08 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 35:09 I've never done coke. You ever do coke?

Joe Rogan 35:10 No, I've never done coke.

Andrew Schulz 35:11 Interesting.

Joe Rogan 35:12 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 35:12 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 35:13 You know why I never did coke?

Andrew Schulz 35:13 I put it on my gums once. Why?

Joe Rogan 35:14 Because I had a friend, and his cousin was a coke addict when I was in high school.

Andrew Schulz 35:18 And?

Joe Rogan 35:18 And I got to watch his life fall apart.

Andrew Schulz 35:20 Interesting.

Joe Rogan 35:21 It was bad.

Andrew Schulz 35:22 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 35:22 Hey, he whittled away to, like, 140 pounds, just stayed in his fucking ... He had an apartment-

Andrew Schulz 35:26 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 35:26 ... in the attic with his girlfriend.

Andrew Schulz 35:28 It's in Boston?

Joe Rogan 35:28 And all they did was ... Yeah, and all they did was ... In Newton.

Andrew Schulz 35:31 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 35:31 All they did was do coke and watch TV.

Andrew Schulz 35:33 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 35:33 It was fucking horrible. I watched him, like, vanish. It was like, it was like somebody who got bit by a vampire.

Andrew Schulz 35:38 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 35:39 That's how it looked to me. I was like, "Ooh."

Andrew Schulz 35:40 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 35:40 I was always scared of anything that could turn you into a loser.

Andrew Schulz 35:43 Yeah, I just-

Joe Rogan 35:44 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 35:44 I don't know. I don't like the energy on coke. Like, I have friends who are drunk, and they're fun. Like, we got shit-faced when we did our pod, and it was fun.

Joe Rogan 35:53 How fun was that?

Andrew Schulz 35:54 It was the most fun.

Joe Rogan 35:55 That was so fun.

Andrew Schulz 35:55 And, and you said something to me interesting about just, like, what people gravitate to in general. Maybe this is an inside baseball podcast, but, like, the hang, like, the silliness, the, the ... You know, we weren't trying to change the fucking world. We were just guys-

Joe Rogan 36:09 Having fun.

Andrew Schulz 36:09 ... busting balls and having fun.

Joe Rogan 36:10 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 36:10 And, like ... I mean, that episode was just fucking berserk, but, but I saw, I see people get drunk and I do it. And I would see people coked up and I, and I would be really annoyed by them.

Joe Rogan 36:20 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 36:20 And I was like, "I don't wanna be annoyed."

Joe Rogan 36:25 Right.

Andrew Schulz 36:26 Or be annoying.

Joe Rogan 36:27 Or annoying. Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 36:27 Exactly.

Joe Rogan 36:28 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 36:28 But drunk, like, I get friends that are high, they're fucking hilarious. Like-

Joe Rogan 36:32 Right.

Andrew Schulz 36:32 ... the mushroom shit, it fucks me up too much. But, like, I see friends on mushrooms, we're just laughing. Whatever is gonna induce that laughter-

Joe Rogan 36:37 Yeah, mushrooms are not conducive, necessarily, to pod- a- although I did do mushrooms with Post Malone, and we had a great fucking podcast. We were tripping-

Andrew Schulz 36:46 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 36:46 ... and we were, we were laughing our asses off and-

Andrew Schulz 36:48 He seems like a good kid.

Joe Rogan 36:49 He's a great guy.

Andrew Schulz 36:50 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 36:50 Post is a great guy.

Andrew Schulz 36:52 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 36:52 He's, he's fucking cool as shit. He's so relaxed.

Andrew Schulz 36:55 And has handled fame-... well.

Joe Rogan 36:58 Oh, yeah.

Andrew Schulz 36:58 I always look at people who have had, like, immense fame and how they've managed it and navigated it.

Joe Rogan 37:04 Well, he's drunk a lot.

Andrew Schulz 37:05 Well-

Joe Rogan 37:05 That's one of the best ways to handle it.

Andrew Schulz 37:06 Well-

Joe Rogan 37:06 That's how Chappelle does it. (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 37:07 Right. But yeah, you see it, right? (laughs)

Joe Rogan 37:10 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 37:10 He's talking to the kids, fucking dripping sweat. Like, it was crazy. Did you see the recent, uh, Chappelle thing?

Joe Rogan 37:16 Mm-mm.

Andrew Schulz 37:16 Oh, he did like a talk. Chappelle's most-

Joe Rogan 37:19 Oh, the Netflix thing?

Andrew Schulz 37:20 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 37:20 I did not see that.

Andrew Schulz 37:21 I haven't seen the full ep- just seen clips, but I gotta watch it. But, like, the most boss move of him is using Netflix as his Instagram.

Joe Rogan 37:27 Right.

Andrew Schulz 37:28 Like, he's just like, "Hey, I got a video there. Put this up, Ted."

Joe Rogan 37:30 Well, they'll take anything-

Andrew Schulz 37:31 From Chappelle.

Joe Rogan 37:32 Yeah, they're like, "What do you got?" (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 37:33 100%, like... (laughs)

Joe Rogan 37:35 He's like, "I'm taking a shit and playing the guitar." Like-

Andrew Schulz 37:37 Run it.

Joe Rogan 37:37 Let's go. (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 37:38 Run it. Is John Mayer there?

Joe Rogan 37:40 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 37:40 Like, what- whatever makes it interesting. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 37:41 He's at a club singing...

Andrew Schulz 37:43 (singing)

Joe Rogan 37:43 ... Part is of Wonderland.

Andrew Schulz 37:46 But yeah, man.

37:47 – 47:49

Chappelle canceled in Minneapolis: protest tactics, definitions, and media framing

Joe Rogan 37:47 Yeah, well, um, it's... We were talking before the podcast about what happened. So today is, uh... What's today's date? Today is the 22nd-

Andrew Schulz 37:58 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 37:58 ... which is a Friday. And, uh, just yesterday, Chappelle's Show got canceled-

Andrew Schulz 38:04 Yep.

Joe Rogan 38:05 ... in Minneapolis.

Andrew Schulz 38:06 Yep.

Joe Rogan 38:07 In a venue that was... Did Prince own it?

Andrew Schulz 38:09 I think that was the Purple Rain venue.

Joe Rogan 38:11 Right.

Andrew Schulz 38:12 I don't know if he've ever owned it, but I think that was, like, synonymous with Prince.

Joe Rogan 38:16 Right, with Prince.

Andrew Schulz 38:17 Yeah, I think it was called First Av.

Joe Rogan 38:19 And something happened where these people-

Andrew Schulz 38:22 First Av.

Joe Rogan 38:22 ... decided that Chappelle is problematic or transphobic or what have you.

Andrew Schulz 38:28 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 38:28 And so the venue, at the last minute, like a couple of hours before the show, canceled his performance.

Andrew Schulz 38:35 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 38:35 And he had to move it to the Varsity Theater.

Andrew Schulz 38:38 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 38:38 And, uh, there was protests and-

Andrew Schulz 38:41 Yep.

Joe Rogan 38:42 And you said one of your buddies was there?

Andrew Schulz 38:43 Yeah, one of my buddies went. So they moved it to this other theater and... First of all, the reason why they, the venue canceled is because all the people that work there threatened to not go to work. That's what I'm hearing.

Joe Rogan 38:54 Of course.

Andrew Schulz 38:54 So it's not like they felt like this, you know, never-ending, like, urge to, like, protect the community.

Joe Rogan 39:00 Right.

Andrew Schulz 39:00 They wanted Chappelle. Everybody wants Chappelle at the venue, but if everybody is at the venue is going, "I'm not gonna work," then you can't exactly have a show. So they do it at the other show, uh, this other venue, and then the protesters went to the other venue and were kind of like, I don't know, for lack of a better term, like, harassing the people that were gonna go to the actual show. And my buddy went there and they were trying to fight him. (laughs) And like, he wasn't even going to the show. He was going to see what was happening. He wasn't, like, part of, like, an anti-protest type thing. And what's funny is-

Joe Rogan 39:29 Did he make a video?

Andrew Schulz 39:30 No, but, uh, he's a, he's a Somali kid, right? I wanna get you this end.

Joe Rogan 39:34 Red Band sent me a video.

Andrew Schulz 39:36 Yeah, show me. Oh, what, of the eggs? Where the guy was gonna throw the eggs and he got that shit kicked out of his hand?

Joe Rogan 39:42 No, no, I don't know. Here, I'll, I've, I haven't seen it, so we'll see it for the first time together. I will, uh-

Andrew Schulz 39:46 But, but look at this real quick before you play the video, right? So a guy found out. One of the guys who was protesting was, like, trying to, like, fight him and fuck him up. Found out who he was and then sends him a message, right? And, uh, (laughs) the guy's name, the guy's name is, uh, is Anthony and he has, he has his pronouns he and they in the bio.

Joe Rogan 40:05 He and they?

Andrew Schulz 40:06 Yeah, he and they.

Joe Rogan 40:07 Oh, sometimes I'm a they.

Andrew Schulz 40:09 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 40:09 Sometimes I'm a he.

Andrew Schulz 40:11 And if you get it wrong...

Joe Rogan 40:12 Yeah, don't get it wrong.

Andrew Schulz 40:13 You're a bigot.

Joe Rogan 40:14 Yeah, you fucking piece of shit.

Andrew Schulz 40:15 So he goes, "Hey Abdi, I've, I've talked with others who were there and closer to you now that the picture has become clearer. I'm very sorry that the white guy started off the whole escalation and caused a bunch of bad assumptions. This is 100% why, as a cis white guy, I choose to follow the directions of the activists/organizers on the ground instead of taking the lead. I'm there to support. It bothers me a lot that white guys do this and leave other people to pick up the mess. I'm going to delete my replies because they didn't pick up on what was actually happening. You know, I see your byline in MSR and Sahan Journal and look forward to reading some of your pieces. Hope our next meeting is more peaceful. Good night."

Joe Rogan 40:53 Did he punch him?

Andrew Schulz 40:54 I don't know if he punched him.

Joe Rogan 40:54 Why did he say more peaceful? What did he do to him?

Andrew Schulz 40:56 I guess they were just beefing or some shit like that.

Joe Rogan 40:57 So this is the video that Red Band sent me. It says, "Trans activists protesting outside a sold out Chappelle show in Minneapolis." So let's play it and hear what they have to say.

Narrator 41:06 (crowd yelling) They're harassing gay and people of color. Trans rights are human. We know what the fuck we want. We're going around this world. Bye, bye, bye. Trans rights are human, dumbass. We're leftists. We know that shit. Leggo trans phobes.

Joe Rogan 41:23 Queerphobes go home.

Narrator 41:25 Yeah, we do, dumbass. Yeah, we do. Fuck y'all. Fuck you, trans phobes. Fuck y'all. Hey, come see me. I'll back your ass up. (crowd yelling)

Joe Rogan 41:43 Oh, my God. A lot of hostility out here.

Andrew Schulz 41:47 But it's not a lot of people that are hostile. It's a small amount.

Joe Rogan 41:51 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 41:52 It seems like there's, like... If you're watching this, it seems like there's probably, like, 12 or four... Well, I don't know. It's hard to see the...

Joe Rogan 41:59 Who knows?

Andrew Schulz 42:00 Yeah. But the thing about Chappelle's special-

Joe Rogan 42:03 Mm-hmm.

Andrew Schulz 42:03 ... that drives me crazy, and this is one of the things that drives me crazy about cancel culture, air quotes.

Joe Rogan 42:07 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 42:08 Outrage culture, I should say, is that people don't know the full story and they protest and they get crazy and they have a narrative that they've either read or they've seen.

Joe Rogan 42:20 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 42:21 And then they just adopt that narrative and they run with it.

Joe Rogan 42:23 Got a point.

Andrew Schulz 42:23 And the narrative is that his special was transphobic.

Joe Rogan 42:26 Right.

Andrew Schulz 42:26 But that special was not transphobic at all. It was essentially a love letter to a friend who committed suicide.

Joe Rogan 42:31 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 42:31 I think, I think that depends on your definition of transphobia. I've talked to some trans people about this, and they feel if you do not believe that they are the gender that they identify as, if you believe that they're not that, that that is considered transphobic. So for example, in the special he's like, "I don't believe that you're a woman. I don't hate you, but I don't believe you're a woman."

Joe Rogan 42:52 Did he say that?

Andrew Schulz 42:53 Something to that extent. I don't wanna-

Joe Rogan 42:55 I think he said-

Andrew Schulz 42:55 I don't wanna mess up the exact words.

Joe Rogan 42:56 I think he said that-... the, the gender... Well, I don't know what-

Andrew Schulz 43:01 Or gender's a science or something, whatever.

Joe Rogan 43:03 Right.

Andrew Schulz 43:03 I don't, I don't wanna mess it up. Sorry if I didn't get it exactly right. But I think the sentiment was, like, "Yo, if you had a penis, it's not the same thing as a woman." I think trans women go, "Yeah, we know that." Like, no, no, no trans woman that I've spoken to is like, "Yeah, I understand, like, biologically I'm not a fucking woman. I get it. But inside, I feel like a woman."

Joe Rogan 43:20 Right.

Andrew Schulz 43:20 And what is inside, I guess, matters, is what they are saying.

Joe Rogan 43:23 Here's the question. How do they know if they feel like a woman?

Andrew Schulz 43:26 Bro, I don't fucking know.

Joe Rogan 43:27 Have you seen the documentary, What Is a Woman?

Andrew Schulz 43:30 It's my favorite documentary.

Joe Rogan 43:31 No. Have you seen it?

Andrew Schulz 43:32 No. You, you told me about it.

Joe Rogan 43:33 You gotta watch it.

Andrew Schulz 43:34 It's, yeah.

Joe Rogan 43:34 It's wild.

Andrew Schulz 43:35 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 43:36 It's, uh-

Andrew Schulz 43:37 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 43:37 ... Matt Walsh-

Andrew Schulz 43:37 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 43:37 ... who's this right-wing guy.

Andrew Schulz 43:39 Oh, yeah. With the beard.

Joe Rogan 43:40 Yes.

Andrew Schulz 43:40 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 43:41 And he has the best deadpan in the fucking business, 'cause all he's doing with these people is asking questions.

Andrew Schulz 43:46 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 43:47 He's not making assumptions, he's not being confrontational. He's just letting them say-

Andrew Schulz 43:53 Poke holes in their argument.

Joe Rogan 43:54 ... their stuff. And it's, it's fucking crazy. There, I mean, there's this one lady who's talking about babies-

Andrew Schulz 44:01 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 44:01 ... knowing they're in the wrong body.

Andrew Schulz 44:02 (laughs) You, you, babies.

Joe Rogan 44:04 Babies.

Andrew Schulz 44:04 (laughs) You know...

Joe Rogan 44:05 Like, how does a fucking baby know anything?

Andrew Schulz 44:07 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 44:08 Like, babies sometimes think they're dinosaurs. Argh.

Andrew Schulz 44:10 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 44:11 It's like, what?

Andrew Schulz 44:11 My brother was a Power Ranger.

Joe Rogan 44:13 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 44:13 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 44:13 That's what I'm talking about.

Andrew Schulz 44:14 Yeah, yeah. No, I-

Joe Rogan 44:15 I thought he was a ninja.

Andrew Schulz 44:16 Really?

Joe Rogan 44:17 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 44:17 For how long?

Joe Rogan 44:18 I don't know.

Andrew Schulz 44:18 And then you kind of, like, followed through.

Joe Rogan 44:20 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 44:20 Like (laughs) you did TaeKwonDo. Like, you committed to that shit way too long, bro.

Joe Rogan 44:24 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 44:24 You're like-

Joe Rogan 44:24 Well, I got, got really excited about Bruce Lee movies.

Andrew Schulz 44:27 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 44:28 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 44:28 But, but the thing, the thing is about the, um, like, the, I, I guess I identify thing is... And I was texting you this, but I thought it was really kinda funny. Like, women actually opened the door for this. Because, like, we were objectifying you for your body parts for a long time. And you were like, "We're more than that. It's what's inside that matters." And now, the trans people are like, "Yeah, it's, it's what's inside." And now ladies are like, "Fuck, I, uh, yeah, kinda. I mean, what about my pussy?"

Joe Rogan 44:54 I don't-

Andrew Schulz 44:55 You don't think that?

Joe Rogan 44:55 I'm not buying that.

Andrew Schulz 44:56 JK Rowling, that's her whole thing!

Joe Rogan 44:58 That's not what her whole thing is.

Andrew Schulz 44:59 (sighs)

Joe Rogan 44:59 Her whole thing is that you're not a woman just because you say you're a woman.

Andrew Schulz 45:03 What makes you a woman?

Joe Rogan 45:04 What?

Andrew Schulz 45:04 That pussy, Joe.

Joe Rogan 45:06 No, actually, your, every single cell of your fucking body.

Andrew Schulz 45:10 Eh, eh.

Joe Rogan 45:11 Do you know that there's a, there's a movement right now amongst-

Andrew Schulz 45:14 Eh.

Joe Rogan 45:14 ... amongst archeologists-

Andrew Schulz 45:15 Okay.

Joe Rogan 45:15 ... where they don't want to identify dead people as male or female 'cause you don't know how they identified?

Andrew Schulz 45:21 Oh, God.

Joe Rogan 45:22 Yes, that's what I'm saying. That's where it goes.

Andrew Schulz 45:24 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 45:24 You can tell, you could dig someone up that was, been dead for 100 years-

Andrew Schulz 45:28 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 45:28 ... and you could tell whether or not that was a male or a female.

Andrew Schulz 45:32 Mm.

Joe Rogan 45:32 Meaning, did they have a double X chromosome or an XY?

Andrew Schulz 45:36 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 45:36 You could tell by the structure of their body.

Andrew Schulz 45:38 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 45:38 You could tell by many, many things.

Andrew Schulz 45:40 But trans people aren't saying that. From my, the ones that I speak to, they're not going, "Yeah, I'm..." They're not saying, "Yeah, my biology is exactly equal to a woman." They're saying, "I feel like a fucking woman inside. I feel like I'm in the wrong body." I don't know what the fuck that feels like, but if you say that that's how you feel, it is confusing, but I can't tell you that you don't feel like you're in the wrong body.

Joe Rogan 46:00 But that was the original way they would address it. Now they just address it, like, in, in terms of, like, the most aggressive versions of trans people.

Andrew Schulz 46:07 Yeah, but the most aggressive versions of everybody-

Joe Rogan 46:11 They're saying, "I am a woman."

Andrew Schulz 46:11 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 46:11 They're not saying-

Andrew Schulz 46:11 What they're, I guess-

Joe Rogan 46:12 ... "I identify as a woman." They're saying-

Andrew Schulz 46:14 Ah.

Joe Rogan 46:14 ... "I am a woman."

Andrew Schulz 46:15 Okay. Well, the most extreme version of everybody sucks. The most extreme version of-

Joe Rogan 46:19 Right.

Andrew Schulz 46:19 ... a dude from Texas sucks.

Joe Rogan 46:21 Right.

Andrew Schulz 46:21 The most extreme version of a dude from New York sucks.

Joe Rogan 46:23 Right, right.

Andrew Schulz 46:23 Like, every extreme stinks.

Joe Rogan 46:24 Extreme right sucks, extreme left sucks.

Andrew Schulz 46:26 But those are the people-

Joe Rogan 46:27 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 46:27 ... who get the headlines, 'cause that's the wildest thing to react to. Like, the reasonable human being that's on, like, the middle and has compassion for both sides never makes a fucking headline.

Joe Rogan 46:37 True.

Andrew Schulz 46:37 Look the way they paint you.

Joe Rogan 46:39 Right.

Andrew Schulz 46:39 It's like, we all know who you are, right? And then we see how you get painted by the, these, the media because it's like, that's what's gonna get people to click on it, right?

Joe Rogan 46:46 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 46:46 And it's like, it's w- it's a wild thing to even experience it, 'cause you're like, "I know this guy."

Joe Rogan 46:52 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 46:52 Like, "I know who he is." And then you see the headline, you're like, "Eh," but that's what's clickable. Dude, even with my, with the fucking special, and I'm not trying to plug, but, like, there's a certain amount of things that, that create an article.

Joe Rogan 47:06 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 47:06 Right? When I said I bought it back, when I said that they wanted me to cut jokes, that wasn't an article yet. When I posted one of the jokes they wanted to cut and it was an abortion joke, ding, ding, ding. Trifecta.

Joe Rogan 47:18 Mm.

Andrew Schulz 47:18 Media goes after it. It's s- no censorship, abortion, which is a hot fucking topic right now, and I guess buying it back is, like, a cool thing, and, like, putting it out selling-

Joe Rogan 47:29 Good, good timing with the b- abortion jokes.

Andrew Schulz 47:30 Bro, it just shows-

Joe Rogan 47:31 Very good timing.

Andrew Schulz 47:32 You know when I filmed it, right?

Joe Rogan 47:33 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 47:33 Last September, like, so long ago.

Joe Rogan 47:37 Quite a while.

Andrew Schulz 47:38 Nothing changes.

Joe Rogan 47:39 Not much.

Andrew Schulz 47:39 Think about it. There are Biden jokes in there that are still relevant.

Joe Rogan 47:43 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 47:43 Gas prices jokes, still irrelevant.

Joe Rogan 47:45 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 47:45 It was one of those things where, like, uh, we waited so long 'cause we had to go through the process and everything. We're like, "Buying it back."

47:49 – 55:19

How Schulz bought back his special: refusing edits, PPV urgency, and building an event

Joe Rogan 47:49 So te- so te- but talk me through the process, 'cause this-

Andrew Schulz 47:51 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 47:51 ... we got sidetracked here. So, how does, how did this work without naming names, you don't ha-... Or if you wanna name names, I don't give a fuck.

Andrew Schulz 47:56 Nah, look, here's the thing. I, uh, the reason why I haven't named the streamer, and people have said a bunch of things, is 'cause, like, the guy there is a good guy and he fought for it. But people have bosses, and sometimes you have to do what the boss says.

Joe Rogan 48:10 Right.

Andrew Schulz 48:10 So-

Joe Rogan 48:10 So what was the scenario?

Andrew Schulz 48:12 Well, I sold a, a special.

Joe Rogan 48:13 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 48:13 We had it ready to go, even before-

Joe Rogan 48:15 Filmed the special.

Andrew Schulz 48:15 ... even before COVID, we had the deal.

Joe Rogan 48:16 Did you, did you sell it before you filmed it?

Andrew Schulz 48:19 Yes.

Joe Rogan 48:19 Okay.

Andrew Schulz 48:20 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 48:20 So you had a deal.

Andrew Schulz 48:21 Yep, had a deal.

Joe Rogan 48:22 And did they come-

Andrew Schulz 48:22 Everything ready to go.

Joe Rogan 48:23 Did they come to see you live?

Andrew Schulz 48:25 They saw me live.

Joe Rogan 48:26 They saw those jokes?

Andrew Schulz 48:26 They saw me live, yes.

Joe Rogan 48:27 Wow.

Andrew Schulz 48:27 Okay?

Joe Rogan 48:28 So they bought it, they go, "We like it. This is great."

Andrew Schulz 48:30 At the show you were at.

Joe Rogan 48:31 Mm-hmm.

Andrew Schulz 48:32 Okay? "We're good. Everything's good to go." (sighs) Basically, the Chappelle trans thing happens, and they freak out.

Joe Rogan 48:42 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 48:43 Culture changed. They freaked the fuck out. I go, "I'm not cutting these..." And they start saying these, like, weird, like, corporate terms, like, "You know, we don't want any punching down." Which is, like, really the most, like, bigoted fucking way of looking at something. Like, you have to look at yourself higher and above another person.

Joe Rogan 49:02 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 49:02 And, like, I get it. You see a white guy on stage making fun of every different culture and person. Like, I'm calling, I'm fucking making fun of a Somali dude. I'm making fun of women. I'm making fun of, like, whoever it is-

Joe Rogan 49:12 You're making fun of-

Andrew Schulz 49:13 ... Mexicans, like-

Joe Rogan 49:13 ... yourself, too, though.

Andrew Schulz 49:14 But-

Joe Rogan 49:15 A lot.

Andrew Schulz 49:15 Exactly.... I'm teasing me constantly.

Joe Rogan 49:18 Yes.

Andrew Schulz 49:18 Everybody gets these jokes. That's the ethos.

Joe Rogan 49:20 Yes.

Andrew Schulz 49:20 You've been at the show.

Joe Rogan 49:20 Yes.

Andrew Schulz 49:20 You understand what it is.

Joe Rogan 49:21 Yes.

Andrew Schulz 49:21 And all these people, they're coming for that. They want to be part of it-

Joe Rogan 49:25 Yeah. It's fun.

Andrew Schulz 49:25 ... because they recognize, I don't fucking hate these people. I'm actually curious... I don't like dissecting comedy like that too much to other people. Like, with the comics I'll do it, but, like, I'm curious in your culture and I wanna learn about it. And, like, I understand that, like, as an outsider, maybe I have some cool observations that, like, you know but you didn't know other people saw.

Joe Rogan 49:41 Right.

Andrew Schulz 49:41 And then, like, you get to see that kinda get exposed and, and people really like that.

Joe Rogan 49:46 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 49:46 They like being represented by it. I make a joke about Albanians, the fucking Albanian community-

Joe Rogan 49:50 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 49:50 ... shares it like crazy.

Joe Rogan 49:51 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 49:52 You know, it's just like, it's a really cool thing to happen.

Joe Rogan 49:54 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 49:54 And, and we had this great fucking thing at these live shows where everybody walks in the door and they just, they turn off the, "I'm offended by everything," or whatever the world is outside and it becomes like... I don't know what the... I, I don't even know what to compare it to, but it kinda becomes like, you remember when you were riding the bus to school?

Joe Rogan 50:13 Yes.

Andrew Schulz 50:13 And it's like, "Yo, we're all on the bus, bro."

Joe Rogan 50:15 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 50:15 Everybody's getting made fun of-

Joe Rogan 50:17 Right.

Andrew Schulz 50:17 ... and you're gonna get some shit thrown at the back of your head, and then you're gonna clap back at that motherfucker for having a big nose, and he's gonna clap back at you, and this girl's got red hair, we're fucking lighting her up. And it was just the best 30 minutes on the way to school.

Joe Rogan 50:28 Right.

Andrew Schulz 50:29 And it's like, we've made that and it exists and it happens, and all this fucking outrage shit is bullshit. And you saw it in the room.

Joe Rogan 50:35 Right.

Andrew Schulz 50:35 It's beautiful. Well, the-

Joe Rogan 50:36 The people that were there are the people that seek out that kinda humor.

Andrew Schulz 50:40 Yes. That is also true.

Joe Rogan 50:40 That's the thing. It's like, is it okay to seek out that kinda humor? Now if you don't like that kinda humor, don't fucking watch it.

Andrew Schulz 50:48 And this is the fucking, this is the crazy thing about it, because I understand somewhat the, the network wants to, like, take it down. And I'm fucking grateful I was even able to buy it back. Okay? That's awesome. I put it out myself, right? And I put it out on my website and I'm only putting it out for two weeks. Okay? There's a two-week fucking window where you can buy it. It stops, I think, August 1st or July 31st is the last day.

Joe Rogan 51:08 Then what are you gonna do?

Andrew Schulz 51:09 I don't know, but whatever the fuck I want.

Joe Rogan 51:11 Interesting.

Andrew Schulz 51:11 'Cause I own it. That's what I wanna do.

Joe Rogan 51:13 Interesting. Why'd you decide two weeks, though?

Andrew Schulz 51:15 Urgency. I saw these amazing comics put specials up on, like, a platform like Netflix and it just, like, it's a fart in the wind. Like, people go, "Oh, I'll get to it eventually. Oh, it's there forever. I'll get to it."

Joe Rogan 51:27 There's so much content.

Andrew Schulz 51:27 It's so much, and there's no urgency. I wanted a fucking pay-per-view event. Like, there's a reason I had fucking Bruce and you connected me, so thank you so much for that. But, like, Bruce did the intro-

Joe Rogan 51:36 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 51:36 ... which-

Joe Rogan 51:36 (laughs) Bruce Buffer's the man. (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 51:38 Bruce is the fuck... Dude, let me tell you something about Bruce, like... And Michael Irvin has this as well. Michael Irvin, he, uh, he had a term for it, man. I forget the fucking name for it. But, like, he's like, "I'm a, I'm a 100 percenter." I go, "What's that mean?" He goes, "Whatever I'm doing is 100%."

Joe Rogan 51:54 Hmm.

Andrew Schulz 51:54 Bruce is 100 percenters.

Joe Rogan 51:56 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 51:56 Whatever... If... He could've been easy, he could've had fucking note cards and read off the note cards. He, he even said to us, he goes, "Let me give it another shot," and then fucking tore the roof off the place.

Joe Rogan 52:09 Re- rewatch, re-, uh, refresh this and do it from the top.

Andrew Schulz 52:11 Oh, that shit is crazy.

Narrator 52:16 Ah.

52:16 Refresh it. This-

Joe Rogan 52:17 Oh, he, oh, he put the, put the headphones on.

Andrew Schulz 52:19 Mm.

Narrator 52:22 Why does he keep doing that?

Andrew Schulz 52:25 (coughs)

Narrator 52:25 Ah. This is the moment you've all been waiting for. It's time.

Andrew Schulz 52:39 (laughs)

Narrator 52:41 Fighting out of New York City, he is the reigning defending-

Andrew Schulz 52:50 Look at him.

Narrator 52:51 ... Undisputed Heavyweight Champion of the world, the one, the only, the Infamous Andrew Tate.

Andrew Schulz 53:08 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 53:08 (laughs) He's like a tomato. He's as red as a tomato at the end. He's the best.

Andrew Schulz 53:14 He doesn't have to do it-

Joe Rogan 53:15 Oh, of course he does.

Andrew Schulz 53:15 ... but he's 100% though.

Joe Rogan 53:17 Oh, he's all in. I mean, that's-

Andrew Schulz 53:18 And-

Joe Rogan 53:18 He's the best announcer of all time.

Andrew Schulz 53:20 Ever. Ever.

Joe Rogan 53:21 Ever. Ever.

Andrew Schulz 53:21 And it's like, he came through, he fucking did it, and then... And hon- honestly, kinda cool story. The song that plays afterwards is by, uh, a musician named Russ, who is, like, the ultimate fucking indie dude. And he's the reason I post this shit on YouTube. He said in an interview that he wasn't getting any traction, so he said, "Fuck it, I'm gonna put out a song a week."

Joe Rogan 53:41 Ooh.

Andrew Schulz 53:41 "Every week I'm gonna put out a song and I'm just gonna get better at this and keep on putting it out." And I was like, "Fuck, I'm not working hard enough. If this guy can put out a song a week, I'm gonna put out a clip a week." And I put out a clip a week on fucking Instagram and YouTube for a year.

Joe Rogan 53:53 Hmm.

Andrew Schulz 53:54 And that changed everything. So I hit him up and I told him the fucking story, and I was like, "Dude, it would be an honor if we could have-

Joe Rogan 54:00 Ooh.

Andrew Schulz 54:00 ... you do a song." And he gave us a fucking unreleased song-

Joe Rogan 54:03 That's amazing.

Andrew Schulz 54:04 ... to put on the thing. So it was-

Joe Rogan 54:05 That's, that's dope. That's dope too that he was the inspiration and then he brought it all around.

Andrew Schulz 54:09 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 54:09 And then he's on your show.

Andrew Schulz 54:10 I don't know.

Joe Rogan 54:11 That's nice.

Andrew Schulz 54:11 But yeah, the fucking, the thing with the jokes is, like-

Joe Rogan 54:14 You got-

Andrew Schulz 54:14 ... I'm not editing fucking jokes, Joe. I don't mind, like, you write a movie for me, tell me what the fuck to say.

Joe Rogan 54:19 Right.

Andrew Schulz 54:19 If I agree to do it, I'll fucking do it. But I made this and- and I'm so grateful for you for even shining a light on what I was doing and, and creating this opportunity for me. Like, uh, coming on this show for the first time, like, not only changed my career, but I think it changed a lot of comics' career, 'cause they also started doing the YouTube stuff and Instagram stuff.

Joe Rogan 54:36 Mm-hmm.

Andrew Schulz 54:36 And it really, like, transformed how comedy is, is done now for a new generation. Like, literally it's like idea and then platform and cosign can, can shift a fucking industry, dude. Like-

Joe Rogan 54:48 Yeah. Yeah, it can. Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 54:49 It was after that fucking day, man.

Joe Rogan 54:51 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 54:51 It was like... So, but I made my bones putting out comedy the exact way I wanted to put it out. I had never done comedy on TV for a network. So the first-

Joe Rogan 55:00 That's pretty amazing.

Andrew Schulz 55:01 But the first time I do it, I'm gonna start clipping jokes and, like, cutting lines-

Joe Rogan 55:04 Right.

Andrew Schulz 55:04 ... and watering it down.

Joe Rogan 55:05 Bleh.

Andrew Schulz 55:05 Fuck that.

Joe Rogan 55:06 Fuck that. Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 55:07 So, well, I was able to do this and, like-... this company, Moment House, who does these live streaming events. They're fucking awesome, and they're like, "Yo, let's go do it." And, um, and we just fucking, we did it, and it was, it was awesome.

55:19 – 58:59

Indie media playbook: Louis C.K., live platforms, YouTube vs. Netflix, and avoiding political mascotting

Joe Rogan 55:19 Well, you know, that's what Louis C.K.'s been doing the last-

Andrew Schulz 55:21 He's-

Joe Rogan 55:21 ... couple of times.

Andrew Schulz 55:21 ... he's, he's the inspo too. I gotta give so much credit to Louis because, like, if he didn't... And Tom Segura and Christina P, 'cause they were doing the, Your Momma's House live.

Joe Rogan 55:29 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 55:30 And I was like, "Okay, so-

Joe Rogan 55:30 Have you done one of those?

Andrew Schulz 55:30 ... people will do it." No, but I-

Joe Rogan 55:32 You need to get in on that.

Andrew Schulz 55:33 They're fun, yo.

Joe Rogan 55:35 Oh my God.

Andrew Schulz 55:35 They-

Joe Rogan 55:36 I did one of them.

Andrew Schulz 55:37 ... crazy.

Joe Rogan 55:37 I did the... Oh my, it's insanity.

Andrew Schulz 55:39 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 55:39 The shit that they play-

Andrew Schulz 55:40 Is-

Joe Rogan 55:41 ... because you could never, ever, ever-

Andrew Schulz 55:43 Flare up.

Joe Rogan 55:43 ... ever, ever, ever, ever play them on YouTube.

Andrew Schulz 55:45 (laughs) Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 55:45 Impossible.

Andrew Schulz 55:46 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 55:46 You only could do it on that platform.

Andrew Schulz 55:48 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 55:48 That pay-per-view platform where people know what they're signing up for.

Andrew Schulz 55:51 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 55:52 It's horrific, man.

Andrew Schulz 55:53 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 55:53 I, I drove home, like, dry heaving.

Andrew Schulz 55:55 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 55:55 And I was the host of Fear Factor for six-

Andrew Schulz 55:57 Yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 55:57 ... fucking years. Like, I've seen some shit.

Andrew Schulz 55:59 Yeah, yeah. (laughs)

Joe Rogan 55:59 And I'm driving home... Just thinking about what the fuck I saw.

Andrew Schulz 56:04 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 56:04 It was horrific, man.

Andrew Schulz 56:05 But Louis did it, he sold his.

Joe Rogan 56:07 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 56:07 And like, I was like, "Okay, this is possible." Now Louis, I'm looking at, you're a fucking superstar. Like, I'm like, "Can, can I do that? Can I, like, approach it?" You know, and I was like, "I think we can." I think that if we get the word out, and we have, you know, we have a podcast, and we have people who subscribe to the YouTube channel, I think there's... And all, obviously my friends who are willing to support it, and I was like, "I think we can do it." And, um, but yeah, if Louis didn't fucking do that and have success... I also didn't know how successful he was. And I kind of felt, like, embarrassed to ask him, like, "How much money did you make?"

Joe Rogan 56:36 Right.

Andrew Schulz 56:36 Like, that feels weird, you know what I mean?

Joe Rogan 56:37 Right.

Andrew Schulz 56:37 Like, money's a little gross in, in that regard. And, um, but then, uh, I heard that he did pretty good. And then Tom was giving me advice about the whole thing, and it was... Yeah, it was just fire, and it-

Joe Rogan 56:47 It can be done.

Andrew Schulz 56:48 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 56:48 It could be done now. Uh, there's ways to do it if you have a big enough reach and a big enough platform. As long as you're not getting fucking censored, you know, if you're not getting... As long as you have some social media where you can put it out and you have, like, a, a network, but I... You know, you kinda feel a little bit vulnerable just for relying on companies. Relying on Instagram or Twitter, and, you know, it seems like that's the whole reason why Elon wanted to buy Twitter in the first place, is he felt like there's just... When Babylon Bee got censored, that was when he really stepped in. It's like, "This is ridiculous."

Andrew Schulz 57:21 I t- I thought it was really cool what he did with, um... He went on their podcast after that.

Joe Rogan 57:27 Mm-hmm.

Andrew Schulz 57:28 And I've seen you do these types of things too, which is, like, n- nurture the people who have been wrongfully removed or silenced.

Joe Rogan 57:39 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 57:40 And he don't have to do that. That motherfucker's busy. Like, I mean, you saw the picture of him on a boat.

Joe Rogan 57:46 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 57:46 Like, he's been working.

Joe Rogan 57:47 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 57:48 Like-

Joe Rogan 57:48 He is the whitest motherfucker that's ever lived.

Andrew Schulz 57:51 I, well-

Joe Rogan 57:51 I feel like he never sees the sun.

Andrew Schulz 57:53 He's a volleyball.

Joe Rogan 57:54 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 57:54 Like, I, I-

Joe Rogan 57:54 A volleyball. (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 57:55 I, I look, I looked at the... (laughs)

Joe Rogan 57:57 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 57:57 He is, right? Like, I looked at the picture, and I went-

Joe Rogan 58:00 Like a corpse.

Andrew Schulz 58:00 Bro, I, I hit up Akash, and I was like, "Put your money in Tesla." And he's like, "Why?" I'm like, "This motherfucker's working."

Joe Rogan 58:06 Oh, yeah.

Andrew Schulz 58:06 "He's not outside." Like, Jeff Bezos-

Joe Rogan 58:08 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 58:08 ... is buff and fucking tan. Like, Amazon's in someone else's hands.

Joe Rogan 58:12 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 58:13 But Elon is in the factory still.

Joe Rogan 58:14 Yeah. Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 58:15 Like, he's cooking.

Joe Rogan 58:16 Oh, 100%. Yeah. I mean, it's interesting because it's an independent American company-

Andrew Schulz 58:23 Hmm.

Joe Rogan 58:23 ... that makes automobiles. It's the biggest independent American company ever.

Andrew Schulz 58:26 African American, bro.

Joe Rogan 58:28 That's true, but it's an American company in terms of, like, it was all founded, started, built here. They're even building microchips now. They're doing everything. 'Cause, like, during the COVID crisis, one of the things that got really highlighted to a lot of people is our dependence on other companies, uh, f- in other countries rather-

Andrew Schulz 58:46 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 58:46 ... to produce stuff.

Andrew Schulz 58:47 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 58:48 And, uh, that's one of the reasons why, you know, the United States is... They're, uh, they're spending money, and, and putting a lot of effort into the manufacture of chips.

58:59 – 1:05:42

Pelosi trades, insider power, and conspiracy-adjacent political dark humor

Andrew Schulz 58:59 Mm.

Joe Rogan 58:59 And right before they were about to announce this, uh, Nancy Pelosi's husband, sh-... 'Cause he knew apparently maybe? What do you think? Maybe he got some inside news? Uh, bought $5 million worth of NVIDIA stock 'cause he knew the shit was gonna go up, which is wild. That, that relationship with Nancy Pelosi and insider trading and her husband is wild. Do you know that she's better at stock market picks-

Andrew Schulz 59:23 Than Warren Buffett?

Joe Rogan 59:23 ... than Warren Buffett and George Soros?

Andrew Schulz 59:25 She can do no wrong, bro.

Joe Rogan 59:27 She should, she should quit what she's doing.

Andrew Schulz 59:29 You know why-

Joe Rogan 59:29 She's better at that.

Andrew Schulz 59:30 ... she can do no wrong, Joe. You know why.

Joe Rogan 59:31 Why? Them heavies?

Andrew Schulz 59:32 Them fucking heavies, bro.

Joe Rogan 59:34 The heavies?

Andrew Schulz 59:34 Dude.

Joe Rogan 59:36 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 59:36 When I saw those things, dude. Dude-

Joe Rogan 59:38 (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 59:38 Dude-

Joe Rogan 59:38 Joe sends me a picture-

Andrew Schulz 59:39 Dude. (sighs)

Joe Rogan 59:39 ... of her, and next to it is a guy, like, lifting weights.

Andrew Schulz 59:42 (laughs) Barnyard fucking bonkers, dude.

Joe Rogan 59:46 Yeah. They're giant.

Andrew Schulz 59:46 It was, it was truly... Like, she's got implants, right?

Joe Rogan 59:51 I don't think so.

Andrew Schulz 59:52 Come on, dude.

Joe Rogan 59:53 I think th- they're so big-

Andrew Schulz 59:54 They were just sitting high like that? She's 80 years old.

Joe Rogan 59:57 Well, they're, they're propped up.

Andrew Schulz 59:58 No, but no freckles or nothing. Like, they look, they look good.

Joe Rogan 1:00:01 No freckles. The, the, the... You get freckles when they're big?

Andrew Schulz 1:00:03 I mean, when you get 90.

Joe Rogan 1:00:05 Well, they're so like liver spots.

Andrew Schulz 1:00:05 You start getting the sunspots and shit. Yeah, whatever. She had none of them.

Joe Rogan 1:00:08 Those, those don't, don't-

Andrew Schulz 1:00:08 They were, like, pristine.

Joe Rogan 1:00:09 Huh?

Andrew Schulz 1:00:10 Dude, I, I-

Joe Rogan 1:00:10 You think they're fake?

Andrew Schulz 1:00:11 They're fake, bro.

Joe Rogan 1:00:12 Really?

Andrew Schulz 1:00:13 I DMed Yongye Park-

Joe Rogan 1:00:14 If you're an 80-year-old lady-

Andrew Schulz 1:00:16 ... afterwards.

Joe Rogan 1:00:16 ... and you said, "Are they fake?"

Andrew Schulz 1:00:17 No, I said, "I'm leaving you."

Joe Rogan 1:00:18 Those... Do you think those are le- real?

Andrew Schulz 1:00:19 I think those gotta be fake. But look at-

Joe Rogan 1:00:21 I don't know.

Andrew Schulz 1:00:21 ... that fucking body right there.

Joe Rogan 1:00:23 They look kinda... I don't know, they look kinda fake.

Andrew Schulz 1:00:25 No, she's, she's got it, bro. But yeah, is her husband a crook, and is she a crook? Absolutely.

Joe Rogan 1:00:29 100%.

Andrew Schulz 1:00:30 But does she have the stupid fat tits? Yes.

Joe Rogan 1:00:32 She's got freckles. She's got titty freckles.

Andrew Schulz 1:00:34 Look at those.

Joe Rogan 1:00:35 Look at those yabbos.

Andrew Schulz 1:00:35 Should we be... If they are fake, should we be able to, to comment on them-

Joe Rogan 1:00:39 Oh, look at that, the inside.

Andrew Schulz 1:00:41 What is that?

Joe Rogan 1:00:41 Like, where the, the... Where they touch in the center, and then-

Andrew Schulz 1:00:44 Oh.

Joe Rogan 1:00:44 ... the chaos.

Andrew Schulz 1:00:45 The Grand Canyon?

Joe Rogan 1:00:46 Above. That's all the stuff that's seen the sun.

Andrew Schulz 1:00:48 Yeah, but what's underneath-

Joe Rogan 1:00:50 It just shows you, like, Elon's got it right. Stay out of the sun. (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 1:00:53 Yeah. But goddamn, I had no clue.

Joe Rogan 1:00:56 Look at the size of those cans.

Andrew Schulz 1:00:56 Yeah, big, big, big, big, big.

Joe Rogan 1:00:58 You think those are fake?

Andrew Schulz 1:00:59 I think they gotta be fake. I think there's something else in there.

Joe Rogan 1:01:01 Well, they're definitely sticking out in an unusual way.

Andrew Schulz 1:01:05 (inhales) Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:01:05 They're like, they're not just big, they're big and out.

Andrew Schulz 1:01:07 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:01:07 They're not like-

Andrew Schulz 1:01:08 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:01:08 ... like, a tribe lady-

Andrew Schulz 1:01:09 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:01:10 ... where they're, like, sagging down.

Andrew Schulz 1:01:11 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:01:11 You know? Those suckers are out.

Andrew Schulz 1:01:13 Out.

Joe Rogan 1:01:14 ... could be some sort of a support bra, like a push-up bra.

Andrew Schulz 1:01:17 Or some silicone.

Joe Rogan 1:01:19 It could be a lot of that.

Andrew Schulz 1:01:20 Yeah. And if that's the case, Joe, they are the people's titties. If my tax dollars have paid for those titties, those are mine a little bit.

Joe Rogan 1:01:30 They probably haven't paid for them. I bet our tax dollars, whatever she gets paid per year-

Andrew Schulz 1:01:35 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:01:35 ... is probably barely enough to support, like, her mortgage. Barely.

Andrew Schulz 1:01:41 Well, I was just trying to find an argument so I could objectify her tits.

Joe Rogan 1:01:44 Oh.

Andrew Schulz 1:01:44 But-

Joe Rogan 1:01:44 You could just do that.

Andrew Schulz 1:01:45 You think that's okay?

Joe Rogan 1:01:46 Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's like kind of a crook.

Andrew Schulz 1:01:47 She's enough of a scumbag?

Joe Rogan 1:01:48 Yeah.

Andrew Schulz 1:01:48 That's, that's what I was thinking about, like-

Joe Rogan 1:01:49 It's like Ghislaine Maxwell, same thing.

Andrew Schulz 1:01:50 Y- you could say whatever the fuck-

Joe Rogan 1:01:51 She's got the big heavies.

Andrew Schulz 1:01:52 Is that the way you made it back in the day?

Joe Rogan 1:01:54 What, having big tits?

Andrew Schulz 1:01:55 Yeah. It's like, Hillary got some sweet sweater pups.

Joe Rogan 1:01:57 Does she?

Andrew Schulz 1:01:58 Have you not seen that?

Joe Rogan 1:01:59 I don't even think of her as a woman. (laughs)

Andrew Schulz 1:02:05 (laughing)

Joe Rogan 1:02:08 I mean, I'm sure she is. She had a child.

Andrew Schulz 1:02:10 What is a woman, Joe?

Joe Rogan 1:02:12 That's the question the documentary tries-

Andrew Schulz 1:02:13 What is a woman, okay? (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:02:14 That's the crazy thing about this documentary.

Andrew Schulz 1:02:16 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:02:16 They say it's someone who identifies as a woman and he goes-

Andrew Schulz 1:02:19 It-

Joe Rogan 1:02:19 ... "Okay, but what is that?"

Andrew Schulz 1:02:21 If everyone who goes against you gets killed or ruined, is that a woman?

Joe Rogan 1:02:24 Hmm, no. That's, uh ... Yeah, that's-

Andrew Schulz 1:02:27 That might be a woman.

Joe Rogan 1:02:28 The fucking Clinton hit list.

Andrew Schulz 1:02:30 Is that ...

Joe Rogan 1:02:33 What are you saying?

Andrew Schulz 1:02:35 (laughing)

Joe Rogan 1:02:35 (laughing) I don't know what you're saying. I'd like to agree with you.

Andrew Schulz 1:02:38 What is h- what has happened? I- I'm just ... Listen, this is a comedy podcast, you know, we're just throwing shit out here. Don't trust us.

Joe Rogan 1:02:44 Did you see- did you hear about this guy?

Andrew Schulz 1:02:45 Who?

Joe Rogan 1:02:45 The latest guy who, um ... He allowed, uh ... He got Epstein into the White House-

Andrew Schulz 1:02:50 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:02:51 ... I think seven times.

Andrew Schulz 1:02:52 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:02:53 Um, and he was, you know, a part of the whole island thing.

Andrew Schulz 1:02:58 Hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:02:58 This guy hung himself with an electrical cord 30 miles from his home at a ranch and shot himself in the chest with a shotgun.

Andrew Schulz 1:03:06 Yeah. No one does that at a ranch. It's too ... Like we were talking about earlier, it's too peaceful, it's too serene.

Joe Rogan 1:03:10 You don't ... If you're gonna shoot yourself, you shoot yourself in the head.

Andrew Schulz 1:03:13 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:03:13 Uh, family of Bill Clinton advisor who admitted Jeffrey Epstein into White House seven times has blocked release of files detailing the death scene after he was found hanging from a tree with a shotgun blast at a ranch 30 miles from his home.

Andrew Schulz 1:03:26 See, this is the stuff that we didn't know before the internet and everybody was just-

Joe Rogan 1:03:30 This is wild. Well, I knew because of a book-

Andrew Schulz 1:03:32 You knew.

Joe Rogan 1:03:32 ... that I read a long time ago called The Strange Death of Vince Foster. Vince Foster was a guy who was involved in a real estate adventure-

Andrew Schulz 1:03:40 In Arkansas was this?

Joe Rogan 1:03:41 Yes.

Andrew Schulz 1:03:41 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:03:42 Yeah, yeah, yeah. A corrupt real estate thing that went side- sideways and they found this guy. He, uh, had the gun in his hand-

Andrew Schulz 1:03:49 Hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:03:50 ... which you never do-

Andrew Schulz 1:03:51 Hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:03:51 ... when you shoot yourself.

Andrew Schulz 1:03:52 (laughing) Yeah, yeah. Y- you don't still hold on to the gun.

Joe Rogan 1:03:54 This is what happens. It's like this bang.

Andrew Schulz 1:03:55 (laughing) Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:03:56 You don't, like, hold the gun when you're fucking-

Andrew Schulz 1:03:58 He's on the ground with a gun pointing at his head still.

Joe Rogan 1:04:00 Yeah. It's like a Perry Mason TV episode.

Andrew Schulz 1:04:02 Yeah. (laughing)

Joe Rogan 1:04:02 You fucking idiots. Like, that's not a way to kill somebody.

Andrew Schulz 1:04:05 (laughs)

Joe Rogan 1:04:05 Not only that, there was less blood in his body-

Andrew Schulz 1:04:08 Mm-hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:04:08 ... like, than w- there, there was less blood at the scene of the crime than was missing from his body.

Andrew Schulz 1:04:13 So, they moved him?

Joe Rogan 1:04:13 So, they moved his body, 100%.

Andrew Schulz 1:04:15 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:04:15 And they put him somewhere.

Andrew Schulz 1:04:16 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:04:17 And they put the gun in his hand, which ... All those things point to murder rather than suicide.

Andrew Schulz 1:04:23 And it would've incriminated Bill, right?

Joe Rogan 1:04:25 Yes.

Andrew Schulz 1:04:26 Now, does this-

Joe Rogan 1:04:26 This is part of the body count.

Andrew Schulz 1:04:28 Yes. Now, does this prove-

Joe Rogan 1:04:29 He's like one of the early ones.

Andrew Schulz 1:04:30 ... it's worth killing?

Joe Rogan 1:04:33 Well, this doesn't prove anything 'cause we don't-

Andrew Schulz 1:04:34 He ends up becoming president.

Joe Rogan 1:04:35 We don't know what else he was involved in.

Andrew Schulz 1:04:38 Right.

Joe Rogan 1:04:38 Look, it could have been he was banging some guy's wife and some guy-

Andrew Schulz 1:04:41 Ugh.

Joe Rogan 1:04:41 You have a lot of ... You'd nev-

Andrew Schulz 1:04:42 Yeah, yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:04:42 When someone gets killed, just because that person's corrupt or-

Andrew Schulz 1:04:45 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:04:45 ... involved in a corrupt thing doesn't mean they're the people that killed him. People that are often corrupt-

Andrew Schulz 1:04:49 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:04:49 ... are involved in a lot of shady shit.

Andrew Schulz 1:04:51 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:04:52 Like, they could be banging chicks, they could be banging dudes, they could be fucking selling drugs.

Andrew Schulz 1:04:57 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:04:57 Who the fuck knows?

Andrew Schulz 1:04:58 Sh- you don't only do one corrupt thing.

Joe Rogan 1:04:59 Right, you're a shady guy.

Andrew Schulz 1:04:59 There's a lot of people out there, eh.

Joe Rogan 1:05:02 Yeah, you're a shady guy.

Andrew Schulz 1:05:03 Eh.

Joe Rogan 1:05:03 But shady people get killed. People that are involved in criminal enterprises get killed, like ...

Andrew Schulz 1:05:07 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:05:08 Who knows what else they were involved with? These people like juice.

Andrew Schulz 1:05:11 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:05:11 They like to fucking, "Yeah, I'm doing something bad."

Andrew Schulz 1:05:14 Yeah.

Joe Rogan 1:05:14 They like doing bad things.

Andrew Schulz 1:05:16 Yeah. That's their adrenaline rush.

Joe Rogan 1:05:17 For sure.

Andrew Schulz 1:05:18 Hmm.

Joe Rogan 1:05:19 That said, like, who fucking knows?

Andrew Schulz 1:05:21 So, the Nancy Pelosi thing, right? Like, she's transparent about it. She's like, "Yeah, I think that private citizens should be able to trade. My husband's a private citizen." She says that flat out, right?

Joe Rogan 1:05:31 Well, she ... Did you see the most recent denial of whether or not she told her husband?

Andrew Schulz 1:05:35 Was she in a bathing suit?

Joe Rogan 1:05:36 (laughing)

Andrew Schulz 1:05:37 Because if she wasn't, I didn't see it, Joe.

Joe Rogan 1:05:39 There was a, a recent ... See if you can find the vid- you, you got it

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