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Lighting up: first cigar, smelling salts, and Theo’s hair transplant reveal
- JRJoe Rogan
(drum roll) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.
- NANarrator
The Joe Rogan Experience. (energetic music) Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. How many times have you smoked a cigar?
- TVTheo Von
I don't know if I've smoked one before.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- TVTheo Von
Can we open that again one more time? Sorry about ...
- JRJoe Rogan
How ... Just, just pull it down. Yeah, lift, flip the top.
- TVTheo Von
Oh, okay, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
There you go. And then pull that do- ... There you go.
- TVTheo Von
Yeah. (cigarette hisses) (lighter clicks)
- JRJoe Rogan
How would you not know whether or not you've smoked a cigar.
- TVTheo Von
Well, I used to work at this business company, I worked at this insurance company. I did paperwor- ... Uh, not paperwork, but I, like, mailed papers for them. And, um, like, mailings, I guess. I guess that's paperwork.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TVTheo Von
And the man had a lot of nice cigars in there.
- JRJoe Rogan
And you may or may not have smoked one?
- TVTheo Von
I feel like he tried to teach me one time. Oh, I feel my heart shuttin'. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- TVTheo Von
Is that always like it is?
- JRJoe Rogan
I ... Don't ... No. No, your heart doesn't shut. (laughs)
- TVTheo Von
Oh, shit, fuck it. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
I think it's the smelling salts. We just tried a new batch of the smelling salts.
- TVTheo Von
Oh, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Last time I did smelling salts, first time was with you, right?
- TVTheo Von
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
And we just got a new batch and it was way stronger 'cause we did one with Red Band and it was old.
- TVTheo Von
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
It was the old ones, and they get weak after a while. But that one was a freshie. Like, we pulled the tab off the top and took a hit of it, and (sniffs) whoo, it just burned all my nostril hairs off.
- TVTheo Von
Oh, man. It felt like somebody was fucking playing Legend of Zelda in my lungs, bro.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- TVTheo Von
This shit was fucking really ... It goes al- ... It goes ... It doesn't even hit your lungs. I feel like it goes through, just into everything else almo- ... It, like ... (sniffs)
- JRJoe Rogan
It does a lot.
- 2:36 – 8:12
Bags, purses, and relationship chaos: masculinity, cheating stories, and youthful misadventures
- TVTheo Von
I was just saying. I just had a crazy ... I had a, like, a trainer the other day and it was a gay trainer, right? And he had a purse with him the whole time and it just, um ...
- JRJoe Rogan
What's the difference between a purse and a large shoulder bag?
- TVTheo Von
Okay. This one, I would say, had bejewels on it, you know?
- JRJoe Rogan
Mm, bejeweled. (laughs)
- TVTheo Von
So it had, yeah. You know, it looked like somebody had, uh ... It looked like something you'd find in Egypt, you know, if you were digging.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) It was bedazzled.
- TVTheo Von
If you were digging in a men's locker room-
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- TVTheo Von
... it looked like something you'd find in Egypt, baby. (laughs) You know what I'm talking about, baby?
- JRJoe Rogan
The purse thing is funny, right? Because it's, like, purely a woman's accoutrement and it, it al- ... It has always been that way. But, like, why? Like, backpacks, guys can wear backpacks.
- TVTheo Von
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Guys can have gym bags. Guys can have all kinds of bags-
- TVTheo Von
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... but not a purse. But meanwhile, guys generally carry more shit than women do, right? I guess not ... Women carry makeup and stuff.
- TVTheo Von
And guys have their nuts too, which is a, like, a ... In a little bag, kind of.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) Good point.
- TVTheo Von
You know what I'm saying?
- JRJoe Rogan
Good point.
- TVTheo Von
So it's almost like your dick has, like, a little purse. But, um ...
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- TVTheo Von
Or, like, a hand or something.
- JRJoe Rogan
A little cum purse.
- TVTheo Von
Yeah. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- TVTheo Von
It's where you store jizz. Uh, but what else? Oh, yeah. So I think, yeah, that's interesting. I guess, yeah, I guess maybe since women carry more stuff, I'm not sure. I'm trying ... Let me try this, yeah, the, the same go.
- JRJoe Rogan
Is it out?
- TVTheo Von
I'm not sure.
- JRJoe Rogan
I think it's lit, bro. Just take-
- TVTheo Von
All right, cool.
- JRJoe Rogan
... a, a take a puff. Deep in. There you go. Yeah, that sucker's lit.
- 8:12 – 11:37
From college apartments to landlord nightmares: rent moratoriums and incentives
- JRJoe Rogan
Can you imagine being a landlord for a bunch of college kids?
- TVTheo Von
Never.
- JRJoe Rogan
Ugh. Imagine being a landlord today, because so many people, there was rent protection during the pandemic and people are still like, "Nah, not paying."
- TVTheo Von
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, I know a guy who has not collected rent from this one person for three fucking years. And he's like, "I can't get rid of them. I don't know what to do. I'm not making any money. Like, I have to pay the mortgage and I'm not making any money off of rent."
- TVTheo Von
Right.
- JRJoe Rogan
"And I- I can't rent it out to anybody else."
- TVTheo Von
Ugh.
- JRJoe Rogan
"And I can't get rid of them." And the lady has a job. The lady has a job. She goes to work every day and won't pay rent.
- TVTheo Von
Oh, that's... She shouldn't do that.
- JRJoe Rogan
No. But there's like, in Los Angeles, there's rent protection.
- TVTheo Von
Oh yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
I don't know if that's still in place. Is that still in place? Do you know?
- TVTheo Von
There's a TV show about bad people that do renting. There's also, um, I saw a... Oh, I had a tenant that stayed in a apartment that I had in New Orleans for two months and just didn't pay any rent. Thankfully it was only two months, but it was just nothing you could do. You know, by the time you have to go like to this... It's just like a- it's-
- JRJoe Rogan
Did you own an apartment building?
- TVTheo Von
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
You did?
- TVTheo Von
Not a building.
- JRJoe Rogan
Apartment?
- TVTheo Von
One apartment.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh really?
- TVTheo Von
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
And you rented it out-
- TVTheo Von
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
... and they wouldn't pay rent?
- TVTheo Von
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Okay. Most people, they have shame and like, if you fuck with them and keep... They- they- they want to either get out of there or they just want to pay you and get it over with, but some people are shameless. And this lady that this guy I know is running out to is totally shameless.
- TVTheo Von
Was she, um... Do you think she was doing like, uh, some type of, like, secret work and she doesn't want, she didn't want like... Do you... Like, what do you think the reason was?
- JRJoe Rogan
I think she would like to spend her money on other things.
- TVTheo Von
Yeah.
- 11:37 – 15:14
Crime fantasies and real violence: robber-on-a-bus story, ‘good crime’ talk, and shooting videos
- TVTheo Von
Dude, one time I was on this bus, man. I used to go work at this farm in the summer. And so I would take the bus up there to Graham and they had this dude on there, he's sitting on there and, uh, next to me and he's like, "Hey, you want to see something?"
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs)
- TVTheo Von
And I thought it was gonna be his dick, you know.
- JRJoe Rogan
His dick. (laughs)
- TVTheo Von
Because, you know, it's a freaking Graham bus.
- JRJoe Rogan
What if he says-
- TVTheo Von
And...
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. You want to see something, it's either a human head-
- TVTheo Von
(laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
... or a dick. (laughs) He pulls a head out of a bag.
- TVTheo Von
(laughs) Either way, you're getting a hit, bro.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TVTheo Von
But, and, and I said no the first couple times, but the trip got longer and I was like, "All right, fuck it." You know? "Yeah, I'll see it." He opened up, he had a bag of jewelry and a gun. He had robbed a, uh, a jewelry store before he got on the bus.
- JRJoe Rogan
Jesus Christ.
- TVTheo Von
And showed it.
- JRJoe Rogan
And he wanted you to see it?
- TVTheo Von
He just wanted, yeah, I think he wanted to kind of take some of the pressure off of him by sharing it with somebody else, you know?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah?
- TVTheo Von
So suddenly ... Yeah, I think he may- he's like, you know, "I've got an accomplice," or something. And then he even said like, "Oh, we should get off at this next stop." And I'm like, "I'm not in this shit."
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) He's gonna throw the bag at you and call the cops.
- TVTheo Von
(laughs) Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
"I found him!" (laughs)
- TVTheo Von
(laughs) He might've had a good idea. Maybe so.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, that's a lot of people that commit crimes like that. They're kind of not that wired right.
- TVTheo Von
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
You know? They're kind of screwball.
- TVTheo Von
Would you ever want to do a good crime?
- JRJoe Rogan
I would want to do a good crime.
- TVTheo Von
A fucking bank robbery?
- JRJoe Rogan
Like a crazy bank robbery.
- 15:14 – 21:23
Guns, training, and policy realities: mall shooting, red dots, and why ‘ban all guns’ is impractical
- NANarrator
Speaking of that, that shooting that happened at the mall?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes.
- NANarrator
Did you hear about that?
- TVTheo Von
Oh.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yes, the shooting that happened at the mall, uh, h- what's, what's ... This is one of those crazy situations where an armed good guy stopped a bad guy from killing a bunch of people. This guy shows up at the mall. Kills ... Sh- pulls out a gun, kills two people, and within seconds this happens. This guy reaches into his, uh, pushes his girlfriend aside, reaches into his waist, pulls out his gun, and shoots at this guy from 40 yards away.
- TVTheo Von
No.
- JRJoe Rogan
10 shots, hits him eight times.
- TVTheo Von
Is that pretty far?
- JRJoe Rogan
It's pretty far. For a pistol, that's far. That's far. That's like a, that's like a good shot with a arrow.
- TVTheo Von
Wow.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like a bow and arrow is 40 yards is a ... That's a fucking poke. And for you to do this under pressure and to take a life, and he hit him eight times. Uh, he could shoot. That's ... He's a 22-year-old man. And of course, the NRA has jumped all over this and they've said, uh, you know, "Hey, this is one of those examples where a good guy with a gun kills a bad guy." That, right, what you just saw is another one of those examples.
- TVTheo Von
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
It does happen. And the problem is people don't want to admit that that happens 'cause it doesn't fit with their narrative. This is one of the things that always happens when there's a hot topic, whether it's, uh, gun control or what- whatever it is, where y- you have a very specific idea of what you think the problem is and what you think the solution is. And a lot of people think the problem is guns. The solution is take all the guns. And, you know, some people say, "No, the solution is you should be armed and be prepared to take care of things-"
- TVTheo Von
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
"... if something goes wrong, you should be trained and you should be prepared to use your gun." And in this case, that is the correct answer, uh, in this case.
- NANarrator
I think that's the right angle-
- TVTheo Von
(clears throat)
- NANarrator
... he had in that video.
- TVTheo Von
Oh, is that a Jason's Deli?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. So-
- NANarrator
Where the shooting was, was right there. The guy who got shot.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, so now-
- TVTheo Von
Wow.
- JRJoe Rogan
... it depends entirely on whether or not this guy has a red dot, um, and how much he's trained. If he has a red dot, it's considerably easier to, to hit what you're aiming at because a red dot, when you pull out a pistol ... Excuse me here. (clears throat) I think that, um, smelly salt's fucked me up.
- TVTheo Von
Really? I like that.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, mine ... Is it fucked you up too, Jamie?
- NANarrator
I didn't s- I didn't go all the way. (scoffs)
- JRJoe Rogan
I went all in.
- NANarrator
I still never-
- JRJoe Rogan
I went, I took the biggest, deepest whiff.
- 21:23 – 32:16
Zombies, vampires, and childhood fear: debating the best monster movies
- TVTheo Von
Yeah. (imitates knife stabbing)
- JRJoe Rogan
Do you still watch it?
- TVTheo Von
No. (laughs)
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TVTheo Von
No, it's terrible. And then also in The Walking Dead, the arrows don't go through the head, which is crazy.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, they just get stuck, huh?
- TVTheo Von
'Cause why is it so easy? They just get stuck. It's more probably, it probably just seems more exciting.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, I mean, it's just special effects. But also, the arrows have field tips. They're not even using broad heads. They're using, like, target tips.
- TVTheo Von
Oh, I don't know that much about arrows.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, if you look at a arrow, like, in The Walking Dead-
- TVTheo Von
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
... the tips, they don't have like a big broad head, like a big cutting edge.
- TVTheo Von
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
They have a point, just a little pointy point, and that's enough to kill the zombie. And then you gotta pull the arrow out and ... It's fucking stupid.
- TVTheo Von
Yeah, I'm trying to think if a zombie was coming at me and I didn't have a weapon what I would use.
- JRJoe Rogan
(clears throat)
- TVTheo Von
I guess I would probably, 'cause, uh, uh, y- they can't bi- I think if they bite you, then you're done.
- JRJoe Rogan
That's the whole problem. If they bite you.
- TVTheo Von
You'd have to probably outrun them or try and get them dizzy. You know?
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) What do you think would get a zombie dizzy?
- TVTheo Von
I think a lot of cutbacks probably, a lot of, uh, you know, 180s, 720s, you- you know, spin arounds.
- JRJoe Rogan
My favorite person in The Walking Dead was the lady with the samurai sword. She fucked everybody up.
- TVTheo Von
Yeah, she, they have a new spinoff actually. They're, that-
- JRJoe Rogan
Is it just her?
- TVTheo Von
And I think it's her and someone else. Yeah, she had the dreadlocks.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- TVTheo Von
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
After a while though, like, how many zombies can you watch get killed? Like, enough.
- TVTheo Von
Yeah, it's almost weird if people are still watching it.
- JRJoe Rogan
(laughs) Yeah. If you're, like, a big fan, like, "I-"
- 32:16 – 55:06
Sex in history and living longer: infant mortality, aging tech, and ‘who lives the longest?’
- TVTheo Von
I wonder if there was a lot of, uh... I wonder if back then it was, if, um, if, like, people were more sexually active back then, you think?
- JRJoe Rogan
Um...
- TVTheo Von
In the past?
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, they probably fucked a lot more because they didn't live very long.
- TVTheo Von
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
Right? They probably just fucked whenever they could.
- TVTheo Von
What a pickup line.
- JRJoe Rogan
We're not gonna make it.
- TVTheo Von
(laughs) Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Let's just, let's just have a couple glasses of wine.
- TVTheo Von
(laughs) Yeah, like, "Hey, babe. The median age around here is 27." (laughs) "We gotta fucking hammer it down."
- JRJoe Rogan
But a lot of that was because people died young.
- TVTheo Von
Yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
Like, they died... There was a lot of, uh, infant mortality. That was a big, big issue. Like, when you look at the actual age that people died back then, some people lived to be a ripe old age. But it was pretty rare.
- TVTheo Von
And a lot of infants, um... I guess a lot of infants just weren't that powerful? Or what was the deal with it?
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, they didn't have medicine.
- TVTheo Von
Oh.
- JRJoe Rogan
So if they got sick, they died.
- TVTheo Von
Oh, yeah.
- JRJoe Rogan
You know, or if, you know, a lot of women died during childbirth-
- TVTheo Von
Ugh.
- JRJoe Rogan
... 'cause if there was complications. You know, now they save so many more people.
- TVTheo Von
Do you think we're supposed to be living as long as we are? Or do you think, like, Mother Nature's like, "Oh, fuck, these people are hanging out too long"?
- JRJoe Rogan
I don't think there's no supposed to. I think if... Biologically, we're supposed to live to be roughly 100 years.
- TVTheo Von
Mm-hmm.
- JRJoe Rogan
If everything goes great. If everything goes perfectly, you'll, you'll live to be about 100 years. But I think that with modern science and our understanding of genes and hormones and, you know, telemeters and all the, the different anti-aging technologies they're working on right now, we're probably, right now, talking to people that are going to live to be 150 years old.
- TVTheo Von
Damn.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah, I think, like, you're, you're seeing people today. Like, if you meet a guy and he's 30 years old today, that guy's probably gonna live to be 150.
- TVTheo Von
That's crazy.
- JRJoe Rogan
Well, people live to be 120. There's, that's a rare thing, but there's been some women that have made it to, like, 120.
- 55:06 – 1:00:02
Bodies, food, and taboos: Great Depression talk, cannibalism headlines, and unusual foods
- TVTheo Von
You think you could've survived the Great Depression?
- JRJoe Rogan
(exhales) Yeah. I mean, you'd hope so.
- TVTheo Von
Well-
- JRJoe Rogan
People survived. But it's like, it wouldn't have been fun. Hard to get a job, you know, lines for food. People would wait in line at soup kitchens and shit, and ...
- TVTheo Von
And people also breastfed their own kids.
- JRJoe Rogan
They did?
- TVTheo Von
Or their own-
- JRJoe Rogan
Up till how old?
- TVTheo Von
But even older. Adult children.
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh? Really?
- TVTheo Von
Even, like, in Grapes of Wrath. You remember that book?
- JRJoe Rogan
They breastfed their kids in Grapes of Wrath?
- TVTheo Von
They breastfed the adults at the end.
- JRJoe Rogan
Really?
- TVTheo Von
People couldn't ... They didn't have nothing.
- JRJoe Rogan
I don't-
- TVTheo Von
Yeah, Joe. What do you think they're not gonna eat?
- JRJoe Rogan
God, I read that- I read that book in high school. I don't remember.
- TVTheo Von
People gotta fucking eat, dude.
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah.
- TVTheo Von
I wonder if you were to ... Say somebody's deceased, right?
- JRJoe Rogan
Right.
- TVTheo Von
Deceased woman. Recently deceased. Half hour ago.
- JRJoe Rogan
Okay.
- TVTheo Von
And they were pregnant, and you're starving.
- JRJoe Rogan
Okay.
- TVTheo Von
Do you think you'd get over there-
- JRJoe Rogan
And eat her?
- TVTheo Von
... and see if there's any milk in them? No. Just have some milk, dude. Damn, bro.
- JRJoe Rogan
If she's deceased, I'd eat her. I wouldn't eat her milk. If I'm starving? Yeah, you'd have to eat ... take chunks of her.
- 1:00:02 – 1:07:46
Nature is brutal: eagles, hawks, bears, and the return to primal instincts
- JRJoe Rogan
And birds? Birds are some of the meanest fucking animals. Have you seen that video that's going around of the bird-
- TVTheo Von
No.
- JRJoe Rogan
... that's eating an antelope alive? Have you seen that?
- TVTheo Von
You think they're mean?
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, they're vicious. They're so horri- they're so fucking horrible.
- TVTheo Von
Why, do you think 'cause they can't be on the ground as much as other animals, easily?
- JRJoe Rogan
I just think they're reptiles. They're flying reptiles.
- TVTheo Von
Are they more reptile?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. I mean, what a bird is, is a dinosaur. They're flying dinosaurs.
- NANarrator
This?
- JRJoe Rogan
Yeah. Look at this. This eagle is riding this antelope's back and just ... It's got its claws dug into its back-
- TVTheo Von
Wow.
- JRJoe Rogan
... so you see all the blood pouring off the back.
- TVTheo Von
No, it's bleeding.
- JRJoe Rogan
And it's just digging into its body, 'cause those claws, the talons that an eagle has, are so powerful.... so it's just riding this thing and then eating out of its ribcage-
- TVTheo Von
(gasps)
- JRJoe Rogan
... while it's just slowly dying. And that, that antelope can't do a goddamn thing to get away. There's nothing it could do.
- TVTheo Von
It's like one of those moving buffets that you're at. You ever been to one of those? One of those-
- JRJoe Rogan
Oh, God, that's
- NANarrator
Oh.
- TVTheo Von
... where the food moves by as you're eating it?
- JRJoe Rogan
I got another video. I'll send you this, Jamie. Of this, uh, there's a, a hawk that's eating a crow. It holds the crow down and the th- the crazy thing is it's not much smaller than the crow. Which is, or not much larger, rather, than the crow, which is wild 'cause it's just, it's just chewing this fucking thing apart.
- TVTheo Von
Oh, I saw a bear climb into a tree yesterday. I put it on my IG story and it was a bear.
- NANarrator
Did you see it?
- JRJoe Rogan
Joe, is that it?
- TVTheo Von
No, no, that's not it. I'm gonna sh- send it to you. Oh, I saved it. Here, hold on a second. I actually have the whole video.
- NANarrator
The, uh, bear?
- TVTheo Von
Bear climbed up a tree and took a hawk out of its nest and-
- NANarrator
Oh, I think I did see that.
- TVTheo Von
... and ate it.
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