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Joe Rogan Experience #1850 - Whitney Cummings

Whitney Cummings is a stand-up comic, author, and host of the "Good for You" podcast. Her new special "Whitney Cummings: Jokes" is now streaming on Netflix. www.whitneycummings.com

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Jun 27, 20243h 27mWatch on YouTube ↗

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  1. 0:00 – 1:51

    Beeple NFTs and dystopian digital art as cultural commentary

    1. NA

      (drumbeats) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

    2. The Joe Rogan Experience. (drumbeat music) Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (rock music)

    3. WC

      I love that.

    4. JR

      What do you love? Oh, the, the-

    5. WC

      Yeah, what is that?

    6. JR

      It's an NFT, sort of. It's, like, digital art. It's Beeple. Do you know who Beeple is?

    7. WC

      I lo- He's-

    8. JR

      He's the best.

    9. WC

      ... brilliant.

    10. JR

      Every day-

    11. WC

      Brilliant.

    12. JR

      ... that guy puts out a new piece.

    13. WC

      Insane. And it's computer generated, but does he go in and, like, paint it?

    14. JR

      I don't understand how it works, but there's something involving computers. (laughs)

    15. WC

      They should, I think ... (laughs)

    16. JR

      (laughs)

    17. WC

      I think there's a PalmPilot. Um-

    18. JR

      I think. (laughs)

    19. WC

      Uh, I w- think every time I see one of his pieces on Instagram, like, you know, there'll be a sweeping sort of dystopian city.

    20. JR

      Look at the new one. (laughs) What the fuck is that? (laughs)

    21. WC

      This is gonna give me nightmares for a while. I mean-

    22. JR

      This is ... But s- the hair on b- I got hairy legs.

    23. WC

      But wait, are these-

    24. JR

      Biden.

    25. WC

      Why are ... They look raspberries, but those are germs?

    26. JR

      I think, yeah. See, it says mild symptoms. That's what it's called.

    27. WC

      Oh, funny. (laughs)

    28. JR

      He's just such a character too. He's a really fun guy. You, you, you, would enjoy him on your podcast.

    29. WC

      My uterus right now. Um-

    30. JR

      Wow.

  2. 1:51 – 3:44

    Top Gun: Maverick reactions—patriotism, China pressure, and Tom Cruise lore

    1. WC

      That was us last night watching Top Gun.

    2. JR

      Yeah.

    3. WC

      Which I loved. It was a mind-bending thrill ride. I was-

    4. JR

      Mrs. Rogan wasn't that into it.

    5. WC

      Well, it was-

    6. JR

      She was like, "Eh."

    7. WC

      (laughs) We definitely were laughing-

    8. JR

      "Eh."

    9. WC

      ... at parts that got a little too, like-

    10. JR

      Homoerotic?

    11. WC

      Like melodramatic. It felt a little telenovela. And it was, it didn't help that all the machines look like giant dicks flying through the air. (laughs)

    12. JR

      (laughs)

    13. WC

      It was all these guys on dicks being like, "Love you, man."

    14. JR

      Pshew.

    15. WC

      But I thought it was cool, 'cause it was just like, it was so, um, unabashedly emotional and-

    16. JR

      Mm.

    17. WC

      ... patriotic-

    18. JR

      Mm.

    19. WC

      And it was like a love letter to our forces.

    20. JR

      Oh.

    21. WC

      It really is. I mean-

    22. JR

      Well, they got in trouble, right? Like, China won't distribute it because he wore a Taiwanese flag on his back or something.

    23. WC

      Was that the Jon Hamm character? I think someone told me he was ... The character was so decorated and had one Taiwanese flag, and they might have made it, them take it out, of course.

    24. JR

      I think they were gonna take it out, but then they changed their mind or something. Th- But it's, like, the pressure from China. Yeah, there it is.

    25. WC

      I bet.

    26. JR

      Yeah.

    27. WC

      I bet.

    28. JR

      So here it is. 2019, the trailer for Top Gun: Maverick showed T- Cruise's character, US Navy pilot Pete Mitchell, in the same bomber jacket he wore in the original film, but two of its flag patches representing Japan and the Republic of China, the official name for Taiwan, appeared to have been replaced by other emblems.

    29. NA

      The movie's like four years old, then? If that's a trailer-

    30. JR

      That's wild.

  3. 3:44 – 6:33

    Scientology as a ‘container’ for vulnerable people—and why cults persist

    1. WC

      I have a hot take on Scientology.

    2. JR

      (laughs)

    3. WC

      Which is that I drive by the creepy ass Scientology center in LA now, and I'm like, "You know what? I'm glad anyone that thinks that's a good idea is in a building." Anyone that would be vulnerable to that is just, they've got them. They can't ... They stay in there. They go on boats. Like, what would the people that think Scientology's a good idea to subscribe to be doing if Scientology was not available to, like, be the cult that they're a part of?

    4. JR

      They would, like, join the Moonies or something.

    5. WC

      Yep.

    6. JR

      They would be something else.

    7. WC

      Yeah.

    8. JR

      They would find some other thing to latch onto.

    9. WC

      Cult type thing.

    10. JR

      Yeah, I mean, there's just a lot of vulnerable people out there that just have weak minds.

    11. WC

      And I think that the more apocalyptic the world becomes or the more it feels like this doomsday thing, the more we all wanna latch onto something-

    12. JR

      Yeah.

    13. WC

      ... that's gonna give us a sense of control, fake control.

    14. JR

      If they didn't have such a wacky origin story, I think they'd be way more successful. The problem is, like, the guy who star- I- uh, did you ever read Lawrence Wright's, uh, Going Clear?

    15. WC

      I saw the documentary.

    16. JR

      I interviewed him. Fascinating guy. And the-

    17. WC

      You've had Leah on, yeah.

    18. JR

      Yeah. I've had Leah on. I had, um, uh, Miscavige's dad on, who escaped, like, literally escaped in a car chase, left the compound to, to get away from his son and, and Scientology.

    19. WC

      And the wife is missing, Shelly.

    20. JR

      I don't believe-

    21. WC

      Right?

    22. JR

      ... she's missing. I think she came out and said, "No, I'm fine."

    23. WC

      Oh, really?

    24. JR

      But, you know, I think she's probably-

    25. WC

      Was it Mi Robot with her color hair?

    26. JR

      She's probably ... (laughs)

    27. WC

      "I am fine."

    28. JR

      (coughs) I think she was punished for insubordination.

    29. WC

      I bet.

    30. JR

      She probably didn't salute correctly. Something went wrong.

  4. 6:33 – 15:21

    Comedy craft during the pandemic: tighter hours, touring weird venues, and ‘clapter’ traps

    1. WC

      I'm just... I cannot tell you. This is the first time I've shot an hour that I felt like was v- like, ready.

    2. JR

      Mm.

    3. WC

      Like, ready.

    4. JR

      Do you think you're more ready because we have all this time because of the pandemic?

    5. WC

      I made a promise to myself that I would not come out of the pandemic, uh, less skilled at anything, less interesting, l- you know, um-

    6. JR

      Too late.

    7. WC

      ... sloppy. (laughs)

    8. JR

      (laughs)

    9. WC

      How dare you.

    10. JR

      (laughs)

    11. WC

      Um, and I was like-

    12. JR

      (clears throat)

    13. WC

      ... "Okay, we obviously have this time. Like, we can't sit around and just get rusty. We can't-

    14. JR

      Mm.

    15. WC

      ... when we come back." And everyone finally is, you know, in their mind, taking a big risk going to a show where people are exhaling on each other, or like, you know, taking a risk to go to a venue, which is what- how people thought about it, at least some states, when we first started going back out. And, um, they've been inside for two years. They've been listening to us on podcasts. They feel connected to us. I was like, "I am not gonna go out there and be mediocre or-"

    16. JR

      Yeah.

    17. WC

      "... or work out and ut- like, be sloppy." And so I, um, worked really hard over the pandemic to be writing, to be thoughtful, and to go, "You know what? This stuff is killing, but, mm, in 10 years, will it still feel insightful and fresh?" Like, just cutting a lot of stuff that felt like it works, but I would rather go smarter or weirder, or try to figure out a way that this is going to, um, age well.

    18. JR

      Mm. I think it gives you time to y- I think the thing about, like, the way we were doing specials before was, like, every two years is great. Louis did it every one year for a while, which I think is kind of insane.

    19. WC

      Yeah.

    20. JR

      But every two, that's... And that's what Carlin did too, so I think that's the model that he adopted. Every two years was good, but for me, like, I'm about to film, and I feel like my shit has never been tighter. It's, like, never been tighter, because I had the time off-

    21. WC

      Mm-hmm.

    22. JR

      ... and then getting back into it also, I had, like, this newfound enthusiasm 'cause I recognized, like, "Hey, this thing that we love so much almost went away," and kinda did for at least a year.

    23. WC

      We took it for granted, for sure.

    24. JR

      Yeah, but now I have these bits that I didn't record in 2020, and I got to hone them, and sharpen them, and edit them-

    25. WC

      Mm-hmm.

    26. JR

      ... and polish them, and- and then add all this new stuff to it as well. And it's just... I think that's the way to do it. I think it's more like three years or maybe even four.

    27. WC

      This is... And you made a very im- imp- big impact on me one day. You might not even remember it, but this was maybe my last special, and, uh, I was about to shoot it, and you went, "I just shot a special. All I can tell you is, if you think you're ready, do it for another three months."

    28. JR

      Yeah.

    29. WC

      Like, it's when you think you're ready, that's when you need another three months, you know? And I had probably, after I thought I was ready, I was able to do, like, s- I mean, I did maybe 85, 90 shows or something of this one. So, it was really fun to, like, be in the pocket, feel like it was ready, and then go, "No, there's more to do. There's more to chisel."

    30. JR

      Yeah.

  5. 15:21 – 16:13

    Why Whitney titled her special 'Jokes'—and the anti-TED-Talk stance in standup

    1. WC

      That is why I called the special Jokes.

    2. JR

      (laughs) Oh, is that what-

    3. WC

      It's called-

    4. JR

      ... you called it?

    5. WC

      ... Jokes.

    6. JR

      Really?

    7. WC

      Becau-

    8. JR

      That's a great name.

    9. WC

      ... Jokes.

    10. JR

      Yeah.

    11. WC

      And I know s- you know, uh, y- people tend to, you know, overthink their titles sometimes. I think for the most part, nobody remembers any of the titles. They're like-

    12. JR

      Right.

    13. WC

      ... "Oh, it's the third one. It was the one where he was in, uh, in Chicago at the theater," right, you know?

    14. JR

      Right.

    15. WC

      But, um, I really wanted to let people know that, you know, I'm not gonna t- lecture you on how to vote. I'm not gonna bring you in, promising you comedy, and then do a secret TED Talk halfway through-

    16. JR

      (laughs)

    17. WC

      ... where I am vulnerable and talk-

    18. JR

      Uh-oh.

    19. WC

      ... about my abusive childhood.

    20. JR

      Yeah.

    21. WC

      Like, I'm just trying to make you laugh. I am a clown, and I take that very seriously. And I think there's just been this thing where comedians now feel like they have to be... weigh in on everything.

    22. JR

      You know why? Twitter.

    23. WC

      Yeah.

    24. JR

      That's what it is.

    25. WC

      Yeah.

    26. JR

      That's why I don't go on it. There's people are all toxic. They're outta their fucking minds.

  6. 16:13 – 19:16

    Norm Macdonald’s final special and the elegance of non-preachy social commentary

    1. WC

      (laughs) Have you seen Norm MacDonald's new special?

    2. JR

      No, I haven't.

    3. WC

      It's rough stuff.

    4. JR

      It's rough for me to watch. I don't wanna wa- I don't wanna get sad.

    5. WC

      I couldn't... It... I cried a couple times. I called Swardson, and I was like, "I can't watch this." And, and he's like, "Just watch it, you dumb cunt." (laughs)

    6. JR

      (laughs)

    7. WC

      "Get the fuck over yourself," you know. So I was like, "Okay, you're right, you're right. Like, what am I doing?"

    8. JR

      Oh.

    9. WC

      And, 'cause he does look, you know... He looks not very well. He doesn't look well.

    10. JR

      Right.

    11. WC

      Um, and, uh-

    12. JR

      How long was it before he died that it was filmed?

    13. WC

      Maybe a year or something? It's called Nothing Special. He shot it in his house, like, into an i-, like a computer, into, like, an iPad.

    14. JR

      And he did this why? Did he do it-

    15. WC

      During the pandemic.

    16. JR

      Did he do it as a special?

    17. WC

      I don't know if he intended for it to be a special or if it just he shot during the pandemic. Well, I mean, must've, and then he died, and it was, you know, there-

    18. JR

      But was he just experimenting with the material, or was he-

    19. WC

      You never know with Norm.

    20. JR

      ... with Norm, right.

    21. WC

      You never know-

    22. JR

      Yeah.

    23. WC

      ... how worked out it is. And he had this joke, and he was just, like, perfect. He goes, um... You know, he's like, "Ever... You know, now people want comedians to weigh in on, like, political issues." And, you know, he's like, "Back during the Vietnam War, was everyone like, 'I wonder what Red Skelton thinks?'" (laughs)

    24. JR

      (laughs)

    25. WC

      And it's like... It was just, like, perfect.

    26. JR

      (laughs)

    27. WC

      And he wasn't preachy. There's a way to do it-

    28. JR

      Yeah.

    29. WC

      ... that's... You... There's a way to get your point across e- without being preachy. So, he said... I'm obviously gonna butcher it. And Norm's one of my, you know, heroes, so I'm sorry, Norm. I'm stomping on your grave. Um, but, uh, he goes, like, he's like, "And I was watching the news, you know, and you know, sometimes there's this, you know, guy giving you the news or woman!"

    30. JR

      (laughs)

  7. 19:16 – 39:50

    OnlyFans, paywalls, and consent: from roast-jokes-as-content to revenge porn fallout

    1. WC

      Which, by the way, I think I'm gonna do a couple roasts on OnlyFans.

    2. JR

      Really?

    3. WC

      Isn't that crazy?

    4. JR

      On OnlyFans?

    5. WC

      They asked me to do, like, their first, like, TV content thing, and I was like, "God. You know what we can't do anymore? Brutal roast jokes. You can't do 'em on network television. You're gonna get in trouble. What if it was behind a paywall? What if instead of, like, dirty pictures and dirty videos, it was, like, dirty jokes that you can't tell anywhere?"

    6. JR

      Oh.

    7. WC

      We'll see. It could work.

    8. JR

      Interesting.

    9. WC

      I'm talking to them about it.

    10. JR

      Dirty jokes you can't tell anywhere. Well, you kinda can tell jokes that are funny anywhere.

    11. WC

      Well, you know what it is? It's more like, you're not gonna get the blowback you would if it was just on Twitter or Instagram. There's no comment. Y- y- there's a paywall, so it's like, it's almost like a Patreon or something. It's like, if you're coming here-

    12. JR

      Mm-hmm.

    13. WC

      ... and then you say anything, you're just a snitch.

    14. JR

      You know what's bizarre about OnlyFans? They don't have a search section.

    15. WC

      Oh.

    16. JR

      We were reading this yesterday.

    17. WC

      Hm.

    18. JR

      We're reading about how many people are on OnlyFans since 2019.

    19. WC

      Mm-hmm.

    20. JR

      Like, well, I don't remember what the numbers were. Do you remember what the numbers were?

    21. NA

      It went from 70,000 in 2019 to just over a million, uh, like, in 2021 or something.

    22. JR

      Yeah, so the pandemic created a lot of hos. They just n- needed to get-

    23. WC

      N- n- they were already there.

    24. JR

      ... needed to get their cash.

    25. NA

      (laughs)

    26. JR

      That's true. Be- be-

    27. WC

      I'm into it. There's teachers making a t- And we don't pay teachers enough. If teachers go on OnlyFans and show their tits, like, if-

    28. JR

      I know, but isn't that, like, sad?

    29. WC

      Isn't it sad to make 30 grand a year-

    30. JR

      It is sad to make 30 grand a year.

  8. 39:50 – 45:52

    Porn genre weirdness to deepfakes: the end of trustworthy images and looming legal gaps

    1. WC

      What's with the stepbrother thing?

    2. JR

      I'll tell you what that is.

    3. WC

      (laughs) Please.

    4. JR

      First of all, it's the pandemic. Everybody had to get stuck inside. And because everyone's stuck inside, like say, say if you and I were married-

    5. WC

      Mm-hmm.

    6. JR

      ... and you had, uh, a 17-year-old son and I had a 17-year-old daughter-

    7. WC

      Mm-hmm.

    8. JR

      ... and we just got married and they're not related to each other. And all of a sudden, they're in the house together.

    9. WC

      Yep.

    10. JR

      That's the, the premise, except the 17-year-old-

    11. WC

      Put this mask on.

    12. JR

      They're really in their fucking 20s and, you know, they're porno stars.

    13. WC

      Isn't there-

    14. JR

      That's what it is. Like, "My dad told me that you're supposed to be my sister, but you don't fucking seem like my sister."

    15. WC

      (laughs)

    16. JR

      "Well, you just help me load this laundry into the fucking dryer."

    17. WC

      Oh.

    18. JR

      "Oh my God, I'm stuck."

    19. WC

      (laughs)

    20. JR

      Yeah. It's like... (laughs)

    21. NA

      It's like, that's... Stuck porn's different, though.

    22. JR

      Stuck?

    23. NA

      Stuck point.

    24. JR

      No, no, no. There's a lot of stuck porn with stepdaughters.

    25. NA

      I know, but it's like, well, yeah, yeah, but...

    26. JR

      You combine the genres.

    27. NA

      Okay, okay. (laughs)

    28. JR

      Why is this so confusing to you?

    29. WC

      I don't know. I think, I mean, it's hard to get stuck in a dryer unless you're Brad Williams.

    30. JR

      Well, I was watching this girl get stuck under a bed. I'm like, "Bitch, you are not stuck. I see all this air underneath your stomach."

  9. 45:52 – 50:55

    Whitney’s own nude leak and extortion attempt—turning violation into a joke

    1. WC

      You came up to me at the Comedy Store once, and, um, I had done the bit about my nude, my boob getting leaked. Remember that bit that I, I d- It's in my special.

    2. JR

      Yes.

    3. WC

      I talked about my, um, I took, uh, uh... I was on edibles in my bathtub one night.

    4. JR

      (laughs)

    5. WC

      F- fucking idiot. I can't do edibles, Joe. I ca- I ca- I don't have the personality for 'em.

    6. JR

      (laughs)

    7. WC

      I'm too neurotic. So, I'm in the bathtub. I'm so high that I'm like, "Let me make an Instagram story. Let me talk to my followers."

    8. JR

      Yeah.

    9. WC

      Like, I am like, "Hey, guys."

    10. JR

      (laughs)

    11. WC

      "Heym, are you ever in the bathtub? Isn't this crazy?" Like, just dumb.

    12. JR

      Right.

    13. WC

      And then I get out, and then, um, I, uh, go to, like, check it, 'cause I'm just so high. You know when you post something, and you're like, "I wanna see if it's gonna get in the-

    14. JR

      Right.

    15. WC

      ... algorithm," or whatever? I open it, and there's like 15 missed calls, and it's my friends, who are like, "Your t-" I had just videoed my tit, like just a crazy person-

    16. JR

      (laughs)

    17. WC

      ... uploaded it on the Instagram story, like a n- And then I took it down, and then, like, a couple months later, before I had my, that last special coming out on Netflix, I got an email where someone said, um, "If you don't pay me $15,000, I'll sell this photo of your boobs to a tabloid." And it was, um, a screen grab of that video. Like, someone had screen grabbed it before I took it down.

    18. JR

      Mm.

    19. WC

      You know? And it was just, it was m- Like, for me, like, I'm making light of it. Like, no one should be okay with this. Like, I felt like in a weird way, like, "Oh, maybe the universe, like, gave me this problem to talk about because I'm fine."

    20. JR

      Right.

    21. WC

      Like, of all the things of mine on the internet, that's the least embarrassing.

    22. JR

      Right.

    23. WC

      Like, I have a f- I have a lot of, you know, sets from random shows that-

    24. JR

      (laughs)

    25. WC

      ... you know, would be way more embarrassing. Some sets from The Ice House-

    26. JR

      Way more pornographic.

    27. WC

      ... from 15 years ago. Way more pornographic, dude.

    28. JR

      (laughs)

    29. WC

      Um, e- yeah, I, like I s- I always say it, like, to me, the only thing, uh, that I was really embarrassed of in my cloud were all the screen grabs of inspirational quotes.

    30. JR

      (laughs)

  10. 50:55 – 55:02

    Raccoon rabies shots, fentanyl-rumor animal control, and Austin’s ‘tech dork’ culture

    1. WC

      ... a total joke. That's (laughs) ... That was a joke. Um, but, uh, I do have to tell you this LA story in a second. Um, but, uh... Oh, 'cause I am on, um... I got a rabies vaccine.

    2. JR

      You did?

    3. WC

      I'm on my third shot of a rabies vaccine.

    4. JR

      Why?

    5. WC

      Because a raccoon ran up my leg.

    6. JR

      Oh, that's right. Oh, you were telling me about that.

    7. WC

      A raccoon-

    8. JR

      So, did the r- the raccoon have rabies?

    9. WC

      Unclear. The raccoon was hanging in a tree after it ran up my leg. Like, it looked like it was sleeping maybe, and then it was walking very slowly, which is, like, very out of character for raccoon behavior. Although, I do think more and more people are gonna die from wild animals because they're watching Instagram and TikTok, and you can f- find any dangerous animal, like, snuggling up with a human. Like, I definitely have seen videos of ra-... people, like friends with raccoons. They have a pet raccoon, and I'm like-

    10. JR

      Yeah.

    11. WC

      ... "Oh, maybe raccoons are nice." Like, stupid idiot. And, um, it ran up on my leg. The next day, it's acting weird. I call animal control, and I'm like, "Hey, guys, I think I have, like, a, a raccoon issue here." This is classic California animal control. She goes, "Well, it's probably just sleeping." And I was like... I was like, "Okay, I know, but it's up... It's, like, in a tree. It just looks weird." She goes, um, "Well, yeah, well, that's where they live." And I was like, "N- I know that." And she's like, "Well, I'm not gonna remove an animal from its home." I was like, "Bitch, like, this is... Like, I'm gonna sh- kill it if you don't come get it, but okay." And then she went, "Okay, well, the problem is that a lot of people in LA, they are, uh, testing their cocaine for fentanyl, and if it tests positive, they're flushing it down the toilet, so we're having a lot of cases of animals that we think are just on fentanyl."

    12. JR

      What? So the... They flush it down the toilet, and then it goes through... into the water, but how does it get to the animal? The animal drinks the toilet water?

    13. WC

      They seem to think this is a common thing. I don't know if it's in the LA River or in the LA water supply.

    14. JR

      It might be really dumb, under-educated people answering the phones.

    15. WC

      That's probably true also.

    16. JR

      Yeah.

    17. WC

      That's probably true also, but a lot of people in LA... well, everyone that I've heard, if they're gonna do cocaine, which if you're testing your cocaine, go c- call your dad.

    18. JR

      (laughs)

    19. WC

      Get that a-... Get that apology you needed. Go, like, back to one.

    20. JR

      (laughs)

    21. WC

      Like, if you're, like, s- sitting around at a club, like, putting a strip in cocaine and being like, "All right, guys, we have to wait 20 minutes," like, you're l-... Like, take a good hard look in the mirror.

    22. JR

      Yeah.

    23. WC

      And then they wait, and if it's positive for fentanyl, they're like, "Well, we can't do this."

    24. JR

      But those are the last-

    25. WC

      They have to flush it.

    26. JR

      ... people that wanna take a look in the mirror-

    27. WC

      Yeah.

    28. JR

      ... is people doing coke.

    29. WC

      Yeah, dude. If you're still... I, I s-... I know so many people now, they're like, "Yeah, I have to test my cocaine." I'm like, "You're 48." Like, "What are you..."

    30. JR

      Uh... (laughs)

  11. 55:02 – 1:00:04

    DNA databases, Epstein’s Harvard access, and pharma using genetic data

    1. WC

      Mm-hmm. Well, here's the other thing, and I say this as someone that uses the Oura band.... and the WHOOP band. But I'm, like, also like, well that's like collecting our breaths and our sleep and, you know, I'm like, I'm-

    2. JR

      Well, 23andMe collected your DNA.

    3. WC

      But that, I would argue, you know, (sighs) they found serial killers with that. Like, there's-

    4. JR

      Oh, did they?

    5. WC

      Yeah. They found the Golden State Killer, isn't it? Pat-

    6. JR

      That's how they found him?

    7. WC

      So, P-

    8. JR

      Wasn't that Patton Oswalt's wife?

    9. WC

      Yes. His wife had written a book about the Golden State Killer. Basically, they couldn't find him, he was at large. His niece or something took a 23andMe test, having no idea, and then they were able to go arrest him.

    10. JR

      DNA from genealogy site used to catch suspected Golden State Siller, Jo- uh, G- Golden State Killer, Joseph James DeAngelo, 72, former police officer, was arrested on Tuesday. Oh, boy.

    11. WC

      Is that, what, 50 years later?

    12. JR

      More than three decades after his trail went cold, one of California's most prolific killers and rapists was caught using online genealogical sites to find a DNA match, prosecutors say. Investigators prepare, uh, compared the DNA collected from a crime scene of the Golden State Killer to online genetic profiles and found a match, a relative of the man police have identified as Joseph James DeAngelo.

    13. WC

      Isn't that nuts?

    14. JR

      Wow.

    15. WC

      'Cause it's tricky 'cause people will be like, "You can't do 23andMe. They're gonna take your data." It's like-

    16. JR

      Yeah.

    17. WC

      ... I'd rather them have my email than serial killers be loose.

    18. JR

      Yeah.

    19. WC

      You know?

    20. JR

      Yeah, yeah, definitely. But the problem is, like, what are they gonna do with that data? There's a, a thing that just came out recently that they're going to be able to target specific individuals for assassination by using a genetic weapon-

    21. WC

      (laughs)

    22. JR

      ... that is geared entirely towards your DNA.

    23. WC

      That's fucked. The day where-

    24. JR

      Yeah, look at this.

    25. WC

      Oof. The day where, if you're allergic to peanuts or something, and I can just walk by you on a plane and throw peanuts on your plate or something.

    26. JR

      So, le- well, hold up that. D- 23andMe sold your genetic data to GlaxoSmithKline. Click on that. What the fuck?

    27. WC

      Mm-hmm.

    28. JR

      So that's wild.

    29. WC

      And GlaxoSmithKline is a...

    30. JR

      Pharmaceutical company.

  12. 1:00:04 – 1:17:45

    Gambling brains, chess hobbies, and Joe’s thrill-seeking via execution sports

    1. WC

      Do you enjoy gambling?

    2. JR

      No. Um, I'm not a gambler. Uh, I mean, I, I enjoy it a little bit.

    3. WC

      Mm-hmm.

    4. JR

      When, um, we went out with you to Vegas, my wife and I did some gambling.

    5. WC

      Did you?

    6. JR

      Yeah, but we just got bored. We were just playing blackjack. We both suck.

    7. WC

      Do you feel like there's any, like, like, what is the skill? Like, I dated a, a guy who's a poker player, and like, a lot of it is being able to just kind of read people and act. You're kinda acting the whole time, right, if you're really playing?

    8. JR

      Well, Ar- Ari's a really good poker player.

    9. WC

      That makes sense.

    10. JR

      And Ari used to actually, when he was first becoming a comedian in LA, he would make his living by playing in poker tournaments.

    11. WC

      Cool.

    12. JR

      And he made money. Like, he would win poker tournaments-

    13. WC

      Mm-hmm.

    14. JR

      ... and place and, and cash in poker tournaments. It's a skill.

    15. WC

      Yeah.

    16. JR

      Like, you, you have to know when to hold, when to fold, and you, you know, y- to know what to do is based on, you know, theory. It's based on the amount of people that have done it that have been successful. There's many books on it-

    17. WC

      Mm-hmm.

    18. JR

      ... many online things on it. But it's so, it's, a certain amount of it is based on intuition as well.

    19. WC

      Right.

    20. JR

      But-

    21. WC

      Being able to, like, f- re-

    22. JR

      Yeah.

    23. WC

      ... feel other people's-

    24. JR

      Yeah, but like, Ari would go to, like, the bicycle club, those places, and like Bellflower-

    25. WC

      Sure. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

    26. JR

      ... and a bunch of degenerates and-

    27. WC

      Bicycle Casino. Yeah. I mean-

    28. JR

      Yeah.

    29. WC

      ... I, my f- friend used to go down there all the time, really creative dude, um, produced, uh, my special with me, Nick Krulzon, and he's brilliant, and he, uh, he would go down there, and he was like, "I'm, I don't know if I'm addicted to the game or the conversations."

    30. JR

      Mm.

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