Joe Rogan Experience #1850 - Whitney Cummings

1. 0:00 – 1:51

   Beeple NFTs and dystopian digital art as social commentary

   1. NANarrator0:00

      (drumbeats) Joe Rogan podcast, check it out.

   2. The Joe Rogan Experience. (drumbeat music) Train by day, Joe Rogan podcast by night. All day. (rock music)

   3. WCWhitney Cummings0:13

      I love that.

   4. JRJoe Rogan0:13

      What do you love? Oh, the, the-

   5. WCWhitney Cummings0:15

      Yeah, what is that?

   6. JRJoe Rogan0:16

      It's an NFT, sort of. It's, like, digital art. It's Beeple. Do you know who Beeple is?

   7. WCWhitney Cummings0:20

      I lo- He's-

   8. JRJoe Rogan0:21

      He's the best.

   9. WCWhitney Cummings0:21

      ... brilliant.

   10. JRJoe Rogan0:22

       Every day-

   11. WCWhitney Cummings0:23

       Brilliant.

   12. JRJoe Rogan0:23

       ... that guy puts out a new piece.

   13. WCWhitney Cummings0:24

       Insane. And it's computer generated, but does he go in and, like, paint it?

   14. JRJoe Rogan0:28

       I don't understand how it works, but there's something involving computers. (laughs)

   15. WCWhitney Cummings0:33

       They should, I think ... (laughs)

   16. JRJoe Rogan0:34

       (laughs)

   17. WCWhitney Cummings0:35

       I think there's a PalmPilot. Um-

   18. JRJoe Rogan0:37

       I think. (laughs)

   19. WCWhitney Cummings0:38

       Uh, I w- think every time I see one of his pieces on Instagram, like, you know, there'll be a sweeping sort of dystopian city.

   20. JRJoe Rogan0:44

       Look at the new one. (laughs) What the fuck is that? (laughs)

   21. WCWhitney Cummings0:47

       This is gonna give me nightmares for a while. I mean-

   22. JRJoe Rogan0:50

       This is ... But s- the hair on b- I got hairy legs.

   23. WCWhitney Cummings0:54

       But wait, are these-

   24. JRJoe Rogan0:55

       Biden.

   25. WCWhitney Cummings0:55

       Why are ... They look raspberries, but those are germs?

   26. JRJoe Rogan0:58

       I think, yeah. See, it says mild symptoms. That's what it's called.

   27. WCWhitney Cummings1:01

       Oh, funny. (laughs)

   28. JRJoe Rogan1:01

       He's just such a character too. He's a really fun guy. You, you, you, would enjoy him on your podcast.

   29. WCWhitney Cummings1:06

       My uterus right now. Um-

   30. JRJoe Rogan1:08

       Wow.
2. 1:51 – 3:44

   Top Gun: Maverick—patriotism, homoerotic jokes, and China/Taiwan pressure

   1. WCWhitney Cummings1:51

      That was us last night watching Top Gun.

   2. JRJoe Rogan1:53

      Yeah.

   3. WCWhitney Cummings1:54

      Which I loved. It was a mind-bending thrill ride. I was-

   4. JRJoe Rogan1:57

      Mrs. Rogan wasn't that into it.

   5. WCWhitney Cummings1:59

      Well, it was-

   6. JRJoe Rogan2:01

      She was like, "Eh."

   7. WCWhitney Cummings2:02

      (laughs) We definitely were laughing-

   8. JRJoe Rogan2:03

      "Eh."

   9. WCWhitney Cummings2:03

      ... at parts that got a little too, like-

   10. JRJoe Rogan2:05

       Homoerotic?

   11. WCWhitney Cummings2:07

       Like melodramatic. It felt a little telenovela. And it was, it didn't help that all the machines look like giant dicks flying through the air. (laughs)

   12. JRJoe Rogan2:14

       (laughs)

   13. WCWhitney Cummings2:15

       It was all these guys on dicks being like, "Love you, man."

   14. JRJoe Rogan2:17

       Pshew.

   15. WCWhitney Cummings2:19

       But I thought it was cool, 'cause it was just like, it was so, um, unabashedly emotional and-

   16. JRJoe Rogan2:25

       Mm.

   17. WCWhitney Cummings2:25

       ... patriotic-

   18. JRJoe Rogan2:27

       Mm.

   19. WCWhitney Cummings2:27

       And it was like a love letter to our forces.

   20. JRJoe Rogan2:30

       Oh.

   21. WCWhitney Cummings2:31

       It really is. I mean-

   22. JRJoe Rogan2:32

       Well, they got in trouble, right? Like, China won't distribute it because he wore a Taiwanese flag on his back or something.

   23. WCWhitney Cummings2:38

       Was that the Jon Hamm character? I think someone told me he was ... The character was so decorated and had one Taiwanese flag, and they might have made it, them take it out, of course.

   24. JRJoe Rogan2:47

       I think they were gonna take it out, but then they changed their mind or something. Th- But it's, like, the pressure from China. Yeah, there it is.

   25. WCWhitney Cummings2:53

       I bet.

   26. JRJoe Rogan2:53

       Yeah.

   27. WCWhitney Cummings2:54

       I bet.

   28. JRJoe Rogan2:54

       So here it is. 2019, the trailer for Top Gun: Maverick showed T- Cruise's character, US Navy pilot Pete Mitchell, in the same bomber jacket he wore in the original film, but two of its flag patches representing Japan and the Republic of China, the official name for Taiwan, appeared to have been replaced by other emblems.

   29. NANarrator3:12

       The movie's like four years old, then? If that's a trailer-

   30. JRJoe Rogan3:14

       That's wild.
3. 3:44 – 6:33

   Scientology as a 'container' for vulnerable people and cult dynamics

   1. WCWhitney Cummings3:44

      I have a hot take on Scientology.

   2. JRJoe Rogan3:46

      (laughs)

   3. WCWhitney Cummings3:46

      Which is that I drive by the creepy ass Scientology center in LA now, and I'm like, "You know what? I'm glad anyone that thinks that's a good idea is in a building." Anyone that would be vulnerable to that is just, they've got them. They can't ... They stay in there. They go on boats. Like, what would the people that think Scientology's a good idea to subscribe to be doing if Scientology was not available to, like, be the cult that they're a part of?

   4. JRJoe Rogan4:09

      They would, like, join the Moonies or something.

   5. WCWhitney Cummings4:11

      Yep.

   6. JRJoe Rogan4:12

      They would be something else.

   7. WCWhitney Cummings4:13

      Yeah.

   8. JRJoe Rogan4:14

      They would find some other thing to latch onto.

   9. WCWhitney Cummings4:16

      Cult type thing.

   10. JRJoe Rogan4:17

       Yeah, I mean, there's just a lot of vulnerable people out there that just have weak minds.

   11. WCWhitney Cummings4:21

       And I think that the more apocalyptic the world becomes or the more it feels like this doomsday thing, the more we all wanna latch onto something-

   12. JRJoe Rogan4:28

       Yeah.

   13. WCWhitney Cummings4:28

       ... that's gonna give us a sense of control, fake control.

   14. JRJoe Rogan4:31

       If they didn't have such a wacky origin story, I think they'd be way more successful. The problem is, like, the guy who star- I- uh, did you ever read Lawrence Wright's, uh, Going Clear?

   15. WCWhitney Cummings4:41

       I saw the documentary.

   16. JRJoe Rogan4:43

       I interviewed him. Fascinating guy. And the-

   17. WCWhitney Cummings4:45

       You've had Leah on, yeah.

   18. JRJoe Rogan4:47

       Yeah. I've had Leah on. I had, um, uh, Miscavige's dad on, who escaped, like, literally escaped in a car chase, left the compound to, to get away from his son and, and Scientology.

   19. WCWhitney Cummings5:01

       And the wife is missing, Shelly.

   20. JRJoe Rogan5:04

       I don't believe-

   21. WCWhitney Cummings5:05

       Right?

   22. JRJoe Rogan5:05

       ... she's missing. I think she came out and said, "No, I'm fine."

   23. WCWhitney Cummings5:10

       Oh, really?

   24. JRJoe Rogan5:10

       But, you know, I think she's probably-

   25. WCWhitney Cummings5:11

       Was it Mi Robot with her color hair?

   26. JRJoe Rogan5:14

       She's probably ... (laughs)

   27. WCWhitney Cummings5:15

       "I am fine."

   28. JRJoe Rogan5:15

       (coughs) I think she was punished for insubordination.

   29. WCWhitney Cummings5:18

       I bet.

   30. JRJoe Rogan5:18

       She probably didn't salute correctly. Something went wrong.
4. 6:33 – 12:09

   Comedy craft after COVID: polishing hours, special timing, and 'being ready'

   1. WCWhitney Cummings6:33

      I'm just... I cannot tell you. This is the first time I've shot an hour that I felt like was v- like, ready.

   2. JRJoe Rogan6:42

      Mm.

   3. WCWhitney Cummings6:42

      Like, ready.

   4. JRJoe Rogan6:43

      Do you think you're more ready because we have all this time because of the pandemic?

   5. WCWhitney Cummings6:49

      I made a promise to myself that I would not come out of the pandemic, uh, less skilled at anything, less interesting, l- you know, um-

   6. JRJoe Rogan6:58

      Too late.

   7. WCWhitney Cummings6:58

      ... sloppy. (laughs)

   8. JRJoe Rogan7:00

      (laughs)

   9. WCWhitney Cummings7:03

      How dare you.

   10. JRJoe Rogan7:04

       (laughs)

   11. WCWhitney Cummings7:04

       Um, and I was like-

   12. JRJoe Rogan7:06

       (clears throat)

   13. WCWhitney Cummings7:06

       ... "Okay, we obviously have this time. Like, we can't sit around and just get rusty. We can't-

   14. JRJoe Rogan7:10

       Mm.

   15. WCWhitney Cummings7:10

       ... when we come back." And everyone finally is, you know, in their mind, taking a big risk going to a show where people are exhaling on each other, or like, you know, taking a risk to go to a venue, which is what- how people thought about it, at least some states, when we first started going back out. And, um, they've been inside for two years. They've been listening to us on podcasts. They feel connected to us. I was like, "I am not gonna go out there and be mediocre or-"

   16. JRJoe Rogan7:30

       Yeah.

   17. WCWhitney Cummings7:30

       "... or work out and ut- like, be sloppy." And so I, um, worked really hard over the pandemic to be writing, to be thoughtful, and to go, "You know what? This stuff is killing, but, mm, in 10 years, will it still feel insightful and fresh?" Like, just cutting a lot of stuff that felt like it works, but I would rather go smarter or weirder, or try to figure out a way that this is going to, um, age well.

   18. JRJoe Rogan7:54

       Mm. I think it gives you time to y- I think the thing about, like, the way we were doing specials before was, like, every two years is great. Louis did it every one year for a while, which I think is kind of insane.

   19. WCWhitney Cummings8:06

       Yeah.

   20. JRJoe Rogan8:06

       But every two, that's... And that's what Carlin did too, so I think that's the model that he adopted. Every two years was good, but for me, like, I'm about to film, and I feel like my shit has never been tighter. It's, like, never been tighter, because I had the time off-

   21. WCWhitney Cummings8:21

       Mm-hmm.

   22. JRJoe Rogan8:21

       ... and then getting back into it also, I had, like, this newfound enthusiasm 'cause I recognized, like, "Hey, this thing that we love so much almost went away," and kinda did for at least a year.

   23. WCWhitney Cummings8:31

       We took it for granted, for sure.

   24. JRJoe Rogan8:32

       Yeah, but now I have these bits that I didn't record in 2020, and I got to hone them, and sharpen them, and edit them-

   25. WCWhitney Cummings8:40

       Mm-hmm.

   26. JRJoe Rogan8:40

       ... and polish them, and- and then add all this new stuff to it as well. And it's just... I think that's the way to do it. I think it's more like three years or maybe even four.

   27. WCWhitney Cummings8:50

       This is... And you made a very im- imp- big impact on me one day. You might not even remember it, but this was maybe my last special, and, uh, I was about to shoot it, and you went, "I just shot a special. All I can tell you is, if you think you're ready, do it for another three months."

   28. JRJoe Rogan9:06

       Yeah.

   29. WCWhitney Cummings9:07

       Like, it's when you think you're ready, that's when you need another three months, you know? And I had probably, after I thought I was ready, I was able to do, like, s- I mean, I did maybe 85, 90 shows or something of this one. So, it was really fun to, like, be in the pocket, feel like it was ready, and then go, "No, there's more to do. There's more to chisel."

   30. JRJoe Rogan9:24

       Yeah.
5. 12:09 – 15:21

   Clubs vs arenas, clapter vs real laughs, and social media making comics corny

   1. WCWhitney Cummings12:09

      Can I tell you? I think the best... You know, I'm actually, in the fall, gonna go back and do a couple clubs 'cause I just miss that tight... That 400-

   2. JRJoe Rogan12:18

      Yeah.

   3. WCWhitney Cummings12:18

      ... people in one place-

   4. JRJoe Rogan12:19

      Mm-hmm.

   5. WCWhitney Cummings12:20

      ... when you're killing and you're on... Like, mind melding. There's no better feeling than that.

   6. JRJoe Rogan12:25

      I don't think there's a better environment to watch comedy or to do comedy than a club.

   7. WCWhitney Cummings12:31

      ... hun-

   8. JRJoe Rogan12:31

      I think-

   9. WCWhitney Cummings12:31

      ... agreed.

   10. JRJoe Rogan12:32

       ... I, I love arenas 'cause they're just nuts. Like, like, standing out there in front of, you know, just insane sea of human beings in, in the round, it's really fun. And when you kill, the, the sound is insane. But it's, it's not the same experience. It's a different, bigger, grander experience, but there's something so intimate about, like, a 300-seat room or a 400-seat room when it's packed and the low ceilings and you're crushing. It's like, there, that's, that's real comedy. That's as good as comedy gets.

   11. WCWhitney Cummings13:03

       And I try to really play defense on... I know people... It's kinda zeitgeisty to talk about clapter. Because if you have all your own fans and everyone's psyched to be there and you have a lot of people and people are cheering and you're like-

   12. JRJoe Rogan13:14

       Right.

   13. WCWhitney Cummings13:14

       ... "There's a difference between involuntary laughs and cheering."

   14. JRJoe Rogan13:18

       Right.

   15. WCWhitney Cummings13:18

       And when I went back on tour, I'd find that I'd be like, "Yeah, the other day, you know, I was, went on a date," and people are like, "Whoo." And you're like, "That's not a..." That's how peop- that's how comedians start to suck. They conflate that response with the involuntary laugh.

   16. JRJoe Rogan13:30

       Right, but you would never do that.

   17. WCWhitney Cummings13:32

       No, I just mean, like, some-

   18. JRJoe Rogan13:33

       You, you're too self-aware.

   19. WCWhitney Cummings13:34

       Sometimes audiences get amped if they're just your people. They bought tickets. They're invested. I just mean, like, every now and then, you gotta do-

   20. JRJoe Rogan13:40

       Don't worry about traps that fall into, for people-

   21. WCWhitney Cummings13:43

       Yeah.

   22. JRJoe Rogan13:43

       ... that suck. (laughs) That's what that is. That's a people-that-suck trap-

   23. WCWhitney Cummings13:47

       (laughs)

   24. JRJoe Rogan13:47

       ... where they get excited, and so they purposely say things they know will get people to cheer.

   25. WCWhitney Cummings13:52

       Ugh.

   26. JRJoe Rogan13:53

       That shit is nonsense. There's so many people that do that.

   27. WCWhitney Cummings13:56

       But in a club, you, you can feel the dif- you can-

   28. JRJoe Rogan13:58

       Oh, yeah.

   29. WCWhitney Cummings13:59

       ... feel how you're doing.

   30. JRJoe Rogan14:00

       Oh, yeah. Yeah. Well, that's one of the beautiful things about a little club, right?
6. 15:21 – 16:13

   Naming a special 'Jokes' and resisting TED-Talk comedy

   1. WCWhitney Cummings15:21

      That is why I called the special Jokes.

   2. JRJoe Rogan15:25

      (laughs) Oh, is that what-

   3. WCWhitney Cummings15:25

      It's called-

   4. JRJoe Rogan15:25

      ... you called it?

   5. WCWhitney Cummings15:25

      ... Jokes.

   6. JRJoe Rogan15:26

      Really?

   7. WCWhitney Cummings15:26

      Becau-

   8. JRJoe Rogan15:26

      That's a great name.

   9. WCWhitney Cummings15:27

      ... Jokes.

   10. JRJoe Rogan15:28

       Yeah.

   11. WCWhitney Cummings15:28

       And I know s- you know, uh, y- people tend to, you know, overthink their titles sometimes. I think for the most part, nobody remembers any of the titles. They're like-

   12. JRJoe Rogan15:35

       Right.

   13. WCWhitney Cummings15:35

       ... "Oh, it's the third one. It was the one where he was in, uh, in Chicago at the theater," right, you know?

   14. JRJoe Rogan15:39

       Right.

   15. WCWhitney Cummings15:40

       But, um, I really wanted to let people know that, you know, I'm not gonna t- lecture you on how to vote. I'm not gonna bring you in, promising you comedy, and then do a secret TED Talk halfway through-

   16. JRJoe Rogan15:49

       (laughs)

   17. WCWhitney Cummings15:49

       ... where I am vulnerable and talk-

   18. JRJoe Rogan15:52

       Uh-oh.

   19. WCWhitney Cummings15:52

       ... about my abusive childhood.

   20. JRJoe Rogan15:54

       Yeah.

   21. WCWhitney Cummings15:54

       Like, I'm just trying to make you laugh. I am a clown, and I take that very seriously. And I think there's just been this thing where comedians now feel like they have to be... weigh in on everything.

   22. JRJoe Rogan16:04

       You know why? Twitter.

   23. WCWhitney Cummings16:06

       Yeah.

   24. JRJoe Rogan16:07

       That's what it is.

   25. WCWhitney Cummings16:08

       Yeah.

   26. JRJoe Rogan16:08

       That's why I don't go on it. There's people are all toxic. They're outta their fucking minds.

7. 16:13 – 19:16

   Norm Macdonald’s last special and how to make points without preaching

   1. WCWhitney Cummings16:13

      (laughs) Have you seen Norm MacDonald's new special?

   2. JRJoe Rogan16:16

      No, I haven't.

   3. WCWhitney Cummings16:17

      It's rough stuff.

   4. JRJoe Rogan16:18

      It's rough for me to watch. I don't wanna wa- I don't wanna get sad.

   5. WCWhitney Cummings16:21

      I couldn't... It... I cried a couple times. I called Swardson, and I was like, "I can't watch this." And, and he's like, "Just watch it, you dumb cunt." (laughs)

   6. JRJoe Rogan16:30

      (laughs)

   7. WCWhitney Cummings16:30

      "Get the fuck over yourself," you know. So I was like, "Okay, you're right, you're right. Like, what am I doing?"

   8. JRJoe Rogan16:34

      Oh.

   9. WCWhitney Cummings16:35

      And, 'cause he does look, you know... He looks not very well. He doesn't look well.

   10. JRJoe Rogan16:39

       Right.

   11. WCWhitney Cummings16:39

       Um, and, uh-

   12. JRJoe Rogan16:40

       How long was it before he died that it was filmed?

   13. WCWhitney Cummings16:43

       Maybe a year or something? It's called Nothing Special. He shot it in his house, like, into an i-, like a computer, into, like, an iPad.

   14. JRJoe Rogan16:49

       And he did this why? Did he do it-

   15. WCWhitney Cummings16:51

       During the pandemic.

   16. JRJoe Rogan16:53

       Did he do it as a special?

   17. WCWhitney Cummings16:55

       I don't know if he intended for it to be a special or if it just he shot during the pandemic. Well, I mean, must've, and then he died, and it was, you know, there-

   18. JRJoe Rogan17:02

       But was he just experimenting with the material, or was he-

   19. WCWhitney Cummings17:05

       You never know with Norm.

   20. JRJoe Rogan17:07

       ... with Norm, right.

   21. WCWhitney Cummings17:07

       You never know-

   22. JRJoe Rogan17:09

       Yeah.

   23. WCWhitney Cummings17:09

       ... how worked out it is. And he had this joke, and he was just, like, perfect. He goes, um... You know, he's like, "Ever... You know, now people want comedians to weigh in on, like, political issues." And, you know, he's like, "Back during the Vietnam War, was everyone like, 'I wonder what Red Skelton thinks?'" (laughs)

   24. JRJoe Rogan17:24

       (laughs)

   25. WCWhitney Cummings17:25

       And it's like... It was just, like, perfect.

   26. JRJoe Rogan17:28

       (laughs)

   27. WCWhitney Cummings17:28

       And he wasn't preachy. There's a way to do it-

   28. JRJoe Rogan17:31

       Yeah.

   29. WCWhitney Cummings17:31

       ... that's... You... There's a way to get your point across e- without being preachy. So, he said... I'm obviously gonna butcher it. And Norm's one of my, you know, heroes, so I'm sorry, Norm. I'm stomping on your grave. Um, but, uh, he goes, like, he's like, "And I was watching the news, you know, and you know, sometimes there's this, you know, guy giving you the news or woman!"

   30. JRJoe Rogan17:48

       (laughs)
8. 19:16 – 20:40

   OnlyFans: paywalls for roast content, creator economy, and teacher pay

   1. WCWhitney Cummings19:16

      Which, by the way, I think I'm gonna do a couple roasts on OnlyFans.

   2. JRJoe Rogan19:19

      Really?

   3. WCWhitney Cummings19:20

      Isn't that crazy?

   4. JRJoe Rogan19:20

      On OnlyFans?

   5. WCWhitney Cummings19:21

      They asked me to do, like, their first, like, TV content thing, and I was like, "God. You know what we can't do anymore? Brutal roast jokes. You can't do 'em on network television. You're gonna get in trouble. What if it was behind a paywall? What if instead of, like, dirty pictures and dirty videos, it was, like, dirty jokes that you can't tell anywhere?"

   6. JRJoe Rogan19:37

      Oh.

   7. WCWhitney Cummings19:37

      We'll see. It could work.

   8. JRJoe Rogan19:39

      Interesting.

   9. WCWhitney Cummings19:39

      I'm talking to them about it.

   10. JRJoe Rogan19:40

       Dirty jokes you can't tell anywhere. Well, you kinda can tell jokes that are funny anywhere.

   11. WCWhitney Cummings19:45

       Well, you know what it is? It's more like, you're not gonna get the blowback you would if it was just on Twitter or Instagram. There's no comment. Y- y- there's a paywall, so it's like, it's almost like a Patreon or something. It's like, if you're coming here-

   12. JRJoe Rogan19:54

       Mm-hmm.

   13. WCWhitney Cummings19:55

       ... and then you say anything, you're just a snitch.

   14. JRJoe Rogan19:57

       You know what's bizarre about OnlyFans? They don't have a search section.

   15. WCWhitney Cummings20:01

       Oh.

   16. JRJoe Rogan20:01

       We were reading this yesterday.

   17. WCWhitney Cummings20:02

       Hm.

   18. JRJoe Rogan20:02

       We're reading about how many people are on OnlyFans since 2019.

   19. WCWhitney Cummings20:07

       Mm-hmm.

   20. JRJoe Rogan20:07

       Like, well, I don't remember what the numbers were. Do you remember what the numbers were?

   21. NANarrator20:10

       It went from 70,000 in 2019 to just over a million, uh, like, in 2021 or something.

   22. JRJoe Rogan20:15

       Yeah, so the pandemic created a lot of hos. They just n- needed to get-

   23. WCWhitney Cummings20:19

       N- n- they were already there.

   24. JRJoe Rogan20:20

       ... needed to get their cash.

   25. NANarrator20:21

       (laughs)

   26. JRJoe Rogan20:21

       That's true. Be- be-

   27. WCWhitney Cummings20:22

       I'm into it. There's teachers making a t- And we don't pay teachers enough. If teachers go on OnlyFans and show their tits, like, if-

   28. JRJoe Rogan20:28

       I know, but isn't that, like, sad?

   29. WCWhitney Cummings20:31

       Isn't it sad to make 30 grand a year-

   30. JRJoe Rogan20:33

       It is sad to make 30 grand a year.
9. 20:40 – 41:15

   Revenge porn, 'Is Anyone Up?', coercive porn schemes, and step-family porn tropes

   1. WCWhitney Cummings20:40

      I mean, yeah, I guess. It's- it's- it depends. I just watched this. Have you seen this documentary, The Most Hated Man on the Internet?

   2. JRJoe Rogan20:47

      No.

   3. WCWhitney Cummings20:48

      Whew! Did you hear-

   4. JRJoe Rogan20:49

      Who, who is the most hated man on the internet?

   5. WCWhitney Cummings20:50

      His name is Hunter Moore. I don't know.

   6. JRJoe Rogan20:53

      Brendan Schaub just went like this. Whew! Oh! Whew!

   7. NANarrator20:59

      I remember this guy.

   8. JRJoe Rogan21:04

      (laughs)

   9. NANarrator21:04

      (Laughing) Ah!

   10. JRJoe Rogan21:06

       (laughs)

   11. WCWhitney Cummings21:11

       I don't even wanna get caught in these crosshairs.

   12. JRJoe Rogan21:13

       Yeah!

   13. WCWhitney Cummings21:13

       I don't even wanna be close to this.

   14. JRJoe Rogan21:16

       Ah! (laughs)

   15. WCWhitney Cummings21:18

       Damn it. There wasn't... I literally- (laughs)

   16. JRJoe Rogan21:21

       Whew! Whew, that was close.

   17. WCWhitney Cummings21:24

       (laughs)

   18. JRJoe Rogan21:26

       (laughs)

   19. WCWhitney Cummings21:26

       Oh, gosh. I've d- By the way, goddamn it. Andrew's-

   20. JRJoe Rogan21:29

       (laughs)

   21. WCWhitney Cummings21:29

       I just did Andrew Schulz's podcast. I did a bunch of podcasts in, uh, in New York, and it was always, like, the countdown to when that was gonna come up.

   22. JRJoe Rogan21:35

       Right.

   23. WCWhitney Cummings21:36

       And I'm glad we just got it outta the way-

   24. JRJoe Rogan21:37

       Yeah.

   25. WCWhitney Cummings21:37

       ... real early. Okay.

   26. JRJoe Rogan21:38

       Listen. I love Brendan Schaub.

   27. WCWhitney Cummings21:40

       L- we love him. We love him.

   28. JRJoe Rogan21:40

       He's my homie. He's always gonna be my- I don't care what dumb shit he says.

   29. WCWhitney Cummings21:44

       Dude, what I-

   30. JRJoe Rogan21:44

       I don't give a fuck. I love that guy to death. I will always- I'm, I'm a ride-or-die.
10. 41:15 – 54:50

    Deepfakes, the end of photo evidence, and Whitney’s leaked nude extortion story

    1. WCWhitney Cummings41:15

       Yeah. Also, have you seen all the, um, uh, pictures of Liam Neeson pissing himself? Joe.

    2. NANarrator41:20

       No.

    3. WCWhitney Cummings41:21

       Joe.

    4. JRJoe Rogan41:22

       Why was he pissing himself? Was he hammered?

    5. NANarrator41:24

       No.

    6. WCWhitney Cummings41:24

       I, I... Is that what it is, Jamie?

    7. NANarrator41:25

       I haven't seen it.

    8. WCWhitney Cummings41:26

       It is, uh, it was brought to my attention on my podcast recently by a guest that, um, uh, Liam Neeson, there's many photos of him pissing, like hav-

    9. JRJoe Rogan41:34

       Many?

    10. WCWhitney Cummings41:34

        ... pen- having pissed his... It's shocking.

    11. JRJoe Rogan41:36

        So he just pisses himself a lot?

    12. WCWhitney Cummings41:37

        I think he just gets drunk and pisses himself.

    13. JRJoe Rogan41:39

        Damn.

    14. WCWhitney Cummings41:39

        Do you see them?

    15. NANarrator41:40

        Yeah.

    16. WCWhitney Cummings41:41

        Dude, it's, it's shocking.

    17. JRJoe Rogan41:42

        Well, why aren't you showing us, Jamie?

    18. NANarrator41:43

        I was trying to find a good version to show you.

    19. JRJoe Rogan41:45

        (laughs)

    20. WCWhitney Cummings41:45

        There's so many. I thought it was gonna be one or two. There are so many. It's, it's-

    21. JRJoe Rogan41:49

        Unapologetic pants pissing, a thread. (laughs)

    22. WCWhitney Cummings41:53

        It's-

    23. JRJoe Rogan41:54

        What?

    24. WCWhitney Cummings41:54

        (laughs) Dude, it's, it's wild, 'cause guys, I know after you pee, there's a little, sometimes a little dot of pee.

    25. JRJoe Rogan42:01

        No, that's a lot of piss.

    26. WCWhitney Cummings42:03

        Dude, it's wild.

    27. JRJoe Rogan42:04

        He just does this a lot?

    28. NANarrator42:05

        He looks hammered every time, though.

    29. JRJoe Rogan42:07

        So what, how does he piss all over himself all the time? Is that his thing?

    30. WCWhitney Cummings42:10

        I feel like-
11. 54:50 – 1:00:04

    Data privacy, 23andMe, pharma access, and bizarre medication side effects

    1. JRJoe Rogan54:50

       TikTok has an office here. Do... You... We read the terms of service the other day, me and Theo did.

    2. WCWhitney Cummings54:55

       I did see that.

    3. JRJoe Rogan54:55

       And it made it to the front page of Fox News. (laughs)

    4. WCWhitney Cummings54:57

       I did see that. I did see that.

    5. JRJoe Rogan55:00

       The fucking terms of service are insane.

    6. WCWhitney Cummings55:02

       Mm-hmm. Well, here's the other thing, and I say this as someone that uses the Oura band.... and the WHOOP band. But I'm, like, also like, well that's like collecting our breaths and our sleep and, you know, I'm like, I'm-

    7. JRJoe Rogan55:14

       Well, 23andMe collected your DNA.

    8. WCWhitney Cummings55:16

       But that, I would argue, you know, (sighs) they found serial killers with that. Like, there's-

    9. JRJoe Rogan55:21

       Oh, did they?

    10. WCWhitney Cummings55:22

        Yeah. They found the Golden State Killer, isn't it? Pat-

    11. JRJoe Rogan55:24

        That's how they found him?

    12. WCWhitney Cummings55:25

        So, P-

    13. JRJoe Rogan55:25

        Wasn't that Patton Oswalt's wife?

    14. WCWhitney Cummings55:27

        Yes. His wife had written a book about the Golden State Killer. Basically, they couldn't find him, he was at large. His niece or something took a 23andMe test, having no idea, and then they were able to go arrest him.

    15. JRJoe Rogan55:40

        DNA from genealogy site used to catch suspected Golden State Siller, Jo- uh, G- Golden State Killer, Joseph James DeAngelo, 72, former police officer, was arrested on Tuesday. Oh, boy.

    16. WCWhitney Cummings55:54

        Is that, what, 50 years later?

    17. JRJoe Rogan55:56

        More than three decades after his trail went cold, one of California's most prolific killers and rapists was caught using online genealogical sites to find a DNA match, prosecutors say. Investigators prepare, uh, compared the DNA collected from a crime scene of the Golden State Killer to online genetic profiles and found a match, a relative of the man police have identified as Joseph James DeAngelo.

    18. WCWhitney Cummings56:21

        Isn't that nuts?

    19. JRJoe Rogan56:21

        Wow.

    20. WCWhitney Cummings56:22

        'Cause it's tricky 'cause people will be like, "You can't do 23andMe. They're gonna take your data." It's like-

    21. JRJoe Rogan56:26

        Yeah.

    22. WCWhitney Cummings56:27

        ... I'd rather them have my email than serial killers be loose.

    23. JRJoe Rogan56:30

        Yeah.

    24. WCWhitney Cummings56:31

        You know?

    25. JRJoe Rogan56:32

        Yeah, yeah, definitely. But the problem is, like, what are they gonna do with that data? There's a, a thing that just came out recently that they're going to be able to target specific individuals for assassination by using a genetic weapon-

    26. WCWhitney Cummings56:44

        (laughs)

    27. JRJoe Rogan56:44

        ... that is geared entirely towards your DNA.

    28. WCWhitney Cummings56:48

        That's fucked. The day where-

    29. JRJoe Rogan56:50

        Yeah, look at this.

    30. WCWhitney Cummings56:51

        Oof. The day where, if you're allergic to peanuts or something, and I can just walk by you on a plane and throw peanuts on your plate or something.
12. 1:00:04 – 1:08:42

    Gambling psychology, pool hustling culture, chess as a healthier obsession, and Joe’s love of execution

    1. WCWhitney Cummings1:00:04

       Do you enjoy gambling?

    2. JRJoe Rogan1:00:05

       No. Um, I'm not a gambler. Uh, I mean, I, I enjoy it a little bit.

    3. WCWhitney Cummings1:00:10

       Mm-hmm.

    4. JRJoe Rogan1:00:10

       When, um, we went out with you to Vegas, my wife and I did some gambling.

    5. WCWhitney Cummings1:00:13

       Did you?

    6. JRJoe Rogan1:00:14

       Yeah, but we just got bored. We were just playing blackjack. We both suck.

    7. WCWhitney Cummings1:00:17

       Do you feel like there's any, like, like, what is the skill? Like, I dated a, a guy who's a poker player, and like, a lot of it is being able to just kind of read people and act. You're kinda acting the whole time, right, if you're really playing?

    8. JRJoe Rogan1:00:30

       Well, Ar- Ari's a really good poker player.

    9. WCWhitney Cummings1:00:32

       That makes sense.

    10. JRJoe Rogan1:00:32

        And Ari used to actually, when he was first becoming a comedian in LA, he would make his living by playing in poker tournaments.

    11. WCWhitney Cummings1:00:40

        Cool.

    12. JRJoe Rogan1:00:40

        And he made money. Like, he would win poker tournaments-

    13. WCWhitney Cummings1:00:43

        Mm-hmm.

    14. JRJoe Rogan1:00:44

        ... and place and, and cash in poker tournaments. It's a skill.

    15. WCWhitney Cummings1:00:47

        Yeah.

    16. JRJoe Rogan1:00:47

        Like, you, you have to know when to hold, when to fold, and you, you know, y- to know what to do is based on, you know, theory. It's based on the amount of people that have done it that have been successful. There's many books on it-

    17. WCWhitney Cummings1:01:01

        Mm-hmm.

    18. JRJoe Rogan1:01:01

        ... many online things on it. But it's so, it's, a certain amount of it is based on intuition as well.

    19. WCWhitney Cummings1:01:06

        Right.

    20. JRJoe Rogan1:01:06

        But-

    21. WCWhitney Cummings1:01:07

        Being able to, like, f- re-

    22. JRJoe Rogan1:01:08

        Yeah.

    23. WCWhitney Cummings1:01:08

        ... feel other people's-

    24. JRJoe Rogan1:01:10

        Yeah, but like, Ari would go to, like, the bicycle club, those places, and like Bellflower-

    25. WCWhitney Cummings1:01:14

        Sure. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

    26. JRJoe Rogan1:01:14

        ... and a bunch of degenerates and-

    27. WCWhitney Cummings1:01:15

        Bicycle Casino. Yeah. I mean-

    28. JRJoe Rogan1:01:17

        Yeah.

    29. WCWhitney Cummings1:01:17

        ... I, my f- friend used to go down there all the time, really creative dude, um, produced, uh, my special with me, Nick Krulzon, and he's brilliant, and he, uh, he would go down there, and he was like, "I'm, I don't know if I'm addicted to the game or the conversations."

    30. JRJoe Rogan1:01:28

        Mm.

Episode duration: 3:27:36